Really enjoy these deck take videos. Might be interesting to do one for BO1. It probably wouldn't change much but the BO1 metagame is definitely slanted more towards aggro (especially convoke and mono red) so maybe the main decks would have to change some.
UW is the only deck that feels unbeatable at times and even if I lose, I had a chance. Also the case for Mono Red, but only really if they go first and draw Kumano(Which they always do vs me...)
AZ is a pain in the ass. I'd recommend getting some cavern of souls but your deck kinda needs to be able to kill them in a turn if it goes late or before turn 4 if it doesn't. If you're playing bo3 forges and instant speed spells are key. I've really been liking intrude on the mind spell pierce, and make disappear. Unfortunately all decks need to contain blue for counters if you don't want to be an aggro deck. Too mankly combos and greedy decks. As far as mono red goes they literally can't do anything if you run removal. I like preacher vamps and flesh gorgers. The flesh gorger will usually eat a lighting but it's 3 less damage at your face and if they don't have it then it can start stabilizing. The vampires usually survive to block and have death touch so if they can't snipe it it will take a creature with it. If it manages to survive then you start attacking to generate life link chumpers. I'd also recommend lockdown, path of peril, or brothers end. Though you more or less need a set of atleast one of those to survive the boros plague. Spot removal is not super effective vs boros but it can slow down their knights.
Is it your take that archetypes absent from the list are D tier and below? (i.e. Orzhov lifegain, Selesnya Enchantments, Monoblack, Gruul version of Monored, Orzhov control, Simic Cookies etc etc)? Or just no opinion?
I have no real opinion on most of the other decks, it’s also possible I forgot rate a few good ones. I would guess that most of the ones you listed would be C tier and below. (Except for small variations like Gruul version of MonoR) They are such a small part of the meta that I would think there would be a reason behind that.
Good video. Nothing unexpected but was worth a watch. Still looking forward to your the problem with farewell design video. Though it has become less proper as of late so its not ever present.
@krowzmtg I didn't realise people didn't enjoy them. I thought they were great. It's always interesting to discuss how we can design cards that are both fun to play and fair to play against but maybe I'm just odd. I know you've said people don't seem to enjoy the analysis but it's great for people trying to improve their game. You're one of the few people I keep on my youtube when I decide to take a break from mtg lol
Very happy to hear that, thank you for sharing this with me. Knowing there are people who do appreciate that content a lot is helpful to me. I do have a few cards I want to talk about so I will probably be covering those relatively soon. (Cavern of souls mostly)
@krowzmtg it's always nice to hear your work is appreciated. Tbh I love cavern of souls. Only way you can consider playing midrange ish deck currently. But I'm aware a ton of people hate it. But I figure that it's one creature per turn. Sunfall is still a thing, control all run those destruction lands, and you can get kicked when the game decides you wanted all 4 of them so they are pretty reasonable. But I'm just a guy trying to survive this azorius world we live in. Would be curious to hear your perspective.
now THIS is the kind of content that gets the juices flowing
I like these types of videos cuz I can hear them as podcasts as well as summarize nowadays standard and that's so convenient for me. Good vid.
Great analysis! Interesting how the mighty Golgari Midrange has fallen, it used to be THE deck. (well, it's still good but you get my point)
Such a cool idea for a video! Would love to see a matchup chart for UW control!
Idk if enough ppl care about that but might try it (maybe after next set drops)
Really enjoy these deck take videos. Might be interesting to do one for BO1. It probably wouldn't change much but the BO1 metagame is definitely slanted more towards aggro (especially convoke and mono red) so maybe the main decks would have to change some.
I tried playing some bo1 and it was not a good time for me xD
That mono red deck not having the new case is insane to me. I’ve lost to that case dozens of times, it’s insanely powerful, stabilizes so quickly
Grabbed a japanese list, not sure what list is best but I do agree case is pretty insane.
UW is the only deck that feels unbeatable at times and even if I lose, I had a chance. Also the case for Mono Red, but only really if they go first and draw Kumano(Which they always do vs me...)
AZ is a pain in the ass. I'd recommend getting some cavern of souls but your deck kinda needs to be able to kill them in a turn if it goes late or before turn 4 if it doesn't. If you're playing bo3 forges and instant speed spells are key. I've really been liking intrude on the mind spell pierce, and make disappear. Unfortunately all decks need to contain blue for counters if you don't want to be an aggro deck. Too mankly combos and greedy decks.
As far as mono red goes they literally can't do anything if you run removal. I like preacher vamps and flesh gorgers. The flesh gorger will usually eat a lighting but it's 3 less damage at your face and if they don't have it then it can start stabilizing. The vampires usually survive to block and have death touch so if they can't snipe it it will take a creature with it. If it manages to survive then you start attacking to generate life link chumpers. I'd also recommend lockdown, path of peril, or brothers end. Though you more or less need a set of atleast one of those to survive the boros plague. Spot removal is not super effective vs boros but it can slow down their knights.
Is it your take that archetypes absent from the list are D tier and below? (i.e. Orzhov lifegain, Selesnya Enchantments, Monoblack, Gruul version of Monored, Orzhov control, Simic Cookies etc etc)? Or just no opinion?
I have no real opinion on most of the other decks, it’s also possible I forgot rate a few good ones.
I would guess that most of the ones you listed would be C tier and below. (Except for small variations like Gruul version of MonoR)
They are such a small part of the meta that I would think there would be a reason behind that.
Thanks for the content krowz!
Good video. Nothing unexpected but was worth a watch. Still looking forward to your the problem with farewell design video. Though it has become less proper as of late so its not ever present.
I’ve been less motivated to make those videos since the reception can get quite negative. Will prob come back to it at some point.
@krowzmtg I didn't realise people didn't enjoy them. I thought they were great. It's always interesting to discuss how we can design cards that are both fun to play and fair to play against but maybe I'm just odd. I know you've said people don't seem to enjoy the analysis but it's great for people trying to improve their game. You're one of the few people I keep on my youtube when I decide to take a break from mtg lol
Very happy to hear that, thank you for sharing this with me.
Knowing there are people who do appreciate that content a lot is helpful to me. I do have a few cards I want to talk about so I will probably be covering those relatively soon. (Cavern of souls mostly)
@krowzmtg it's always nice to hear your work is appreciated. Tbh I love cavern of souls. Only way you can consider playing midrange ish deck currently. But I'm aware a ton of people hate it. But I figure that it's one creature per turn. Sunfall is still a thing, control all run those destruction lands, and you can get kicked when the game decides you wanted all 4 of them so they are pretty reasonable. But I'm just a guy trying to survive this azorius world we live in. Would be curious to hear your perspective.
Lmao, I like the thumbnail
crazy my golgari has the best win rate of all these decks i've played
ive watched this 3 times straight lol juss studyn
So Mono-Green doesn't even make 'F' tier. Ouch.
Esper Mid below UW Control and Mono Red, Mono Blue above Golgari xDD what a joke of a list
Another deck tier list, another L for Mono Green 😢
Yikes
LFG!!!
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Nice content Krowz - DJ_Aphelion