I was a MECP First Class certified installer back in the ‘90’s. I learned by trial and error, read magazines and studied the very limited amount of resources available to me at the time. Man what I would’ve given for TH-cam back then! Great content, and thank you for what you do for the up and coming generation.
I remember the '90s, back before the internet was big. You couldn't just look something up, you need to know somebody that could teach you, or get your hands on a book. Lots of trial and error.
Bro this came on my headphones while I was weeding and now I’m gonna restructure my tiny ranger, I feel like I could outfit the NASA space shuttle to bang screw!!
@@DIYAudioGuy despite my love of comments on the edge, I watched some more of your videos and I want to double down and compliment your endless positive energy. My parents both eventually ended up in secondary ed admin, I have met many many teachers and it is your natural calling, sir. :) thank you, I just fired up my ignition… let’s see…
@@DIYAudioGuy brother… I think I am retrieving all of my ohms now! Into a small 10 and a large 12 sealed :) thanks for helping this dusty old drummer out. Now that I understand my ohms I can replace the tubes in that old Music Man hahaha! I promise, the comment flood has ended.
I will say Mr. DIY Audio Guy, you make great videos for the beginners of car audio. There is so much confusion with so many people when they first break into car audio. As someone who has been in the car audio scene for over 10 years I will say your presentation and topics are well done. Keep up the great work DIY audio guy. I would love to interview sometime if you are willing.
@@AwestruckAudioHertzhey i had a ? wanted advise from a audio guy im looking for a setup with Deep,Accurate,Tight,Punchy bass with Elite sound quality i dont 2 much care to ride around and blast them with the volume all the way up 24/7 but if i do i want VERY Clean tight bass with little to No raddling. I mainly just want to ride and have really deep,tight,punchy accurate bass on the mids n lows while my volume is down or mid range but if i chose to turn the volume up high i would still have High quality deep n clean bass and still have my music Very clear as far as the words and musical instruments in the background like snares etc.... I wanted to go with either One 12" sub or Two 10 inch subs n i was thinking either 1 kicker L7, 1 alpine R2, 1 kicker comp Q round, 1 american bass or 2 kicker comp Rs 12s... For the 10 inch 2 P3s, 2 american bass, 2 memphis mojos... Which setup or Brand subs would sound best One 12 inch or Two 10 inch for the type of High Quality deep accurate bass that im looking for im not planning on listening at High volumes 24/7 mainly want the best sounding deep bass for lows n mids at low to medium volume.... N what are some Top Notch amps to put out alot of good clean power and push the subs to their best potential i was looking at a 1800.1 Brutus Hifonics to push whatever One 12" sub i choose or a 1500.1 Orion XTR amp i know they are top notch n put out more power then they are rated .....
I’m getting ready to watch all your videos. I love audio and have for a long time. I definitely needed this broken down to me in the simplest form. I’m at the 4 minute mark of this video and leave a comment. Thanks My man
Sorry that I'm not a newbie with audio but I was thinking maybe you were going to talk about the different loadings and how it affects the amp and damping for controlling the transducer/s and why you would choose a different impedance for different applications but that was my assumption by the title, other than that it was well done for interim knowledge for new people. Thanks for the video!
@@DIYAudioGuy Another great video! I guess I'm just looking for more in-depth information and I can't lie I'm also checking to make sure people out there aren't feeding viewers bad information about audio. Let's face it the audio world is a science world with a lot of grey area in it and it's taken me well over two decades of work in the field to get a good grasp on when's and when nots. So when I find channels like yours it's nice to see people not being feed B.S. because of people who presume they KNOW for a fact because of their "anecdotal experience" which unfortunately came to them dew to their own ignorance and arrogance. But I digress you keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep watching and hopefully learning something new😁
@@jedpetersen3806 I appreciate that man! One of the reasons why I started making videos is because I saw some stuff out there that was just flat out wrong, and wrong in an obvious way. I only put stuff out there If I'm very certain that I've got it right. That does not mean that I'm always right. I've learned a lot from the many knowledgeable people that post comments. My big challenge at the moment is I'm looking for a reputable source that can give me some formulas for understanding how a dual reflex (some call it a sixth order) bandpass enclosure works. I suspect there's probably some very gnarly math. That does not scare me off. Since you've been doing this professionally for a couple of decades you might be able to put me in the right direction. Like a peer-reviewed journal article or a patent or something like that.
@@DIYAudioGuy I'll look through my library and send you as much information as I've got access to. Unfortunately things that my location are very disheveled because of remodeling but I won't forget! Thanks again.
I love that you do this. Of course most of us know what all this is, I wish when I was learning that there was such a greatly explained video! Top notch info my friend!
You just have to match the power and impedance of the amp to the power and impedance of the subwoofer. There are a ton of great subwoofers out there. Look in the video description you'll see links to the places I like to go to buy subwoofers.
So for Pro Audio Subs at 8ohm i need to wire in parallel and i do so by divinding 8ohm by 2=4ohm at the amp per channel thats how i wire and solder two 18s in a single enclosure to give me a boost in power?
So if you’re in a pinch and you don’t have speaker wire to wire your subwoofers and you want to wire your subwoofers but don’t have any speaker wire laying around can you cut the cords off of some old broken lamps that are laying around in your garage and use that as speaker wire instead of actual speaker wire.
Yes!!!!!!! I bought a set of duals and no clue ….. Edit: nice so it was as simple as I thought 💭 it was =] better to watch this than experiment 🔬thank you sir
I have a joson jupitor amp it is rated for 4 to 16 amps. I have on one channel 1 speaker only a 12" instrumental woofer. The amp is rated for 1000 watts perchannel at 4 ohms. My woofer is 8 ohm. How to i wire it to amp for 4 ohms. That is only 1 speaker and not 2. 9n second channel i run a 2 way crossover that does a midrange woofer and tweeter it is comboned only 320 watts for that channel. So how to hook the 900 watt ingle chanell to run in 4 ohms?
I understand setting gain with multimeter and 1 (4 ohm) sub, but I don't understand when it's 2 (4 ohm) subs in parallel. Do I just calculate it now for 2 ohm and measure at the end of each speaker run?
Question... I have my both subs wired to 1ohm wen I turn up the music sounds like my sub or subs are making a ugly chattering type sound is that over powered or subs bottoming out?
That might be an air leak, to me air leaks sound like paper "rattling" Play a test tone at moderate volume and run your hands around the subwoofer mounting flange, the terminal cup and any edges or seams in the enclosure.
Just found your channel. Question. I'm planning to build enclosure with x2 dayton um18-22 in 1 box, how would I connect that to my berhinger nx6000? Both subs are dvc 4ohms?
That's a dual two ohm subwoofer, not a dual 4ohm. You can just wire the voice coils in series so that each subwoofer has a 4 ohm load and run in stereo. If the amp is bridgeable you can run the subwoofers in series for an 8 ohm load the amp.
4 ohms sub that i want is out of stock. if i wire the 2 ohm sub to make it 4 ohm, is it just as good as the 4 ohm sub? or should i wait for the 4 ohm to be in stock.
I am assuming that you are looking at a dual 2 ohm sub, if so then yes you can wire the two voice coils in parallel and it will work just like a 4 ohm sub. There may be a few slight difference between the two, but it will be slight.
It depends on what you're trying to do. If it's those weak little thin enclosures with a built-in amplifier, you cannot parallel them because they each have drone amplifier. But you can certainly Install two of them. But if you just got two subwoofers, no amplifier built into an enclosure, absolutely you can parallel those.
This is old, but i am hoping someone still stumbles on it. I've never run DVC speakers before, so I have a question. I need a 4 ohm load. If I got 2 4 ohm DVC speakers, does it matter if I run the voice coils parallel and then the speakers in series, or the voice coils in series and the speakers in parallel? Both should mathematically result in a 4 ohm load, right?
Hi love the channel just came across it. One question can I connect a one coil 8 ohm midrange woofer to a one or two ohm amplifier. Thank you in advance.
I have a Pioneer TS-W311D4 dual V/c @400 ohms rms My amplifier is two channel amp rated @ 2 x 250 watts into 4 ohms ../ .. and 2 x 400 watts into 2 ohms ... this amp is 2 ohm stable... My basshead friends tell me that I must series this DVC to 8 ohms, because the amp will blow the speakers or even the amp. they say that the amp at an 8 ohm load will easily drive the Pioneer and not overheat plus the dvc wont burnout from clipping or too much power ... Your advice will be truly appreciated
Technically the real difference in the term impedance and resistance is the impedance is both the resistance and the reactants together so the impedance covers all the aspects of the reactants and the resistance when you introduce a wave into a chamber you get what's called capacitive reactants and when you have a vent you get inductive reactants. A speaker is actually a reactive load.
Ok so i need some help understanding whats going on with my amp and subs i have a 8” dvc 2 ohm sub and a 12” dvc 1 ohm sub soo i parallel wired the 8” to the 12” and then back to the the wire terminal and my voltmeter is showing 1.1-1.3 so its giving me a 1 ohm reading but why is my amp going to protection mode when the music is asking for the most bass the volume has nothing to do with it at any volume its cutting out…why??
It's perfectly normal for the multimeter to read something different, remember that it picks up the resistance in the wire and the resistance in the test leads. If you have all those voice calls paralleled then you have the entire thing wired down to 75 ohms nominal impedance. Your amp is cutting out simply because you have it wired at far too low of a resistance. So when you hit those hard notes the amp tries to put out more current than it can and it will cut out or go into protect. I don't recommend mismatching drivers, I definitely don't recommend pairing drivers with different impedance or different size. It's not because I'm some kind of a speaker stop, it's because it doesn't work well. I recommend that you buy a second 12. Wire The voice coils in series to get a 2 ohm load on each subwoofer and then parallel the subwoofers together to get a one ohm load. You will get a much better result.
@@DIYAudioGuy ok that makes sense so im actually going lower than 1 ohm right and its rating is 1800x1 at 1ohm another driver at the moment is out of the question so if i wired those two drivers in series that would bring up from under 1ohm??
I have a 2022 Audi Q5 with the bang and olufsen which has a DVC 6” tire sub at 2x100w and 2x8 Ohms. I bought a cerwin vega tire sub that is a 4 Ohm DVC. I want a direct plug and play. The wiring harness of the Cerwin Vega has 8 wires that merge into 4 wires. Two of the same wires are what merge. Is there a way to connect the sub in a way to match the 2ch 8 ohm system?
I don't have enough information to give you a reliable answer. It all boils down to how the factory sub was wired. You may have to wire the aftermarket subwoofer in series. When you do this you will cut your amplifier power in half. I don't think you are going to get a good result. My advice is to invest in an aftermarket amplifier or see if Cerwin Vega offers an amplified version of that sub.
@@DIYAudioGuy they do offer a powered sub. I accidentally bought this one and it looks like it's plug and play. I was debating on buying a small amp to add but I don't plan on keeping the car for more than 3 years
@@DIYAudioGuy the Sub I have is the VS12SH. I tested it on my car as is and although the Bass sounded lower, it sounded fuller. With the setting turned up all the way, I didn’t get any amp cut off or clipping. People experienced that when replacing the original 6.5 small sub with a kicker. I’m wondering if I should leave it.
@@DanielGuzman83 My concern is that if you wire it wrong you will cook the factory amp. I don't want to give advice that could potentially damage gear so I always err on the side of caution.
@@DIYAudioGuy I retuned the sub. I am just going to buy an amp with a down facing Solo Baric 10” box. I never installed an amp before so I’m not sure if I should do it or pay somebody.
Thank you so much for the video. Using the parallel technic, can I do the same with my wireless subwoofer (from soundbar)? My sub driver that came along with the soundbar( samsung q950a) is only 8 inch 4omhs. The wireless sub has no output and neither samsung sells same model subwoofer. All I wanna do is hook up wire directly from the sub driver using your parallel technics and then sends the audio signal to a small sub amplifier that can handle my new polk subwoofer 12 inch 200 watt. Will this change the overall impedance or impact inadvertently in the process? My intended simple steps below: 1. Hook up wire from wireless subdriver inside the sub cabinet(parallel) 2. send the audio connection (wire) to a sub amp. 3. then send the connection to new subwoofer. Eternally grateful if you'd reply.
If the sub has no output then the amp powering the sub is probably blown, if so then nothing you are proposing will work. Your best bet is to see if it is still under warranty and then send it back to Samsung.
@@DIYAudioGuy thanks for your response. My bad, English is my second language. My soundbar is perfectly working including the sub. It's just that the bass is very underwhelming and so I intend to add extra sub. Since the subwoofer is wireless, it does not have any outlet to hook up another subwoofer. Will the steps I intend to do work without repercussion?
Just curious. Is it possible to run parallel/series? For example, 3 dual 1 woofers. Each ran parallel to .5 then ran in series between woofers for a 1.5 end load?
Great vid... I have 2 question please. 1.Does a DVC subwoofer have more output than a SVC? 2.when we see "500w" RMS on a DVC subwoofer, is it 250w per a coil?
The power ratings are usually listed as a total amount of power for the entire driver. So each voice call would be 150 Watts and the speaker would be 300.
It is safe, but the two drivers will be getting an unequal power split. It's believed to reduce performance and reduced longevity. Put one of them on Facebook marketplace and see if somebody will swap you even for one with the correct impedance.
Most manufacturers don't recommend only connecting one of the voice coils. But if it's working for you, and you're happy with what you've got don't change anything.
@@DIYAudioGuy A long time ago I downloaded the BassBox software to make a subwoofer for the car, I was a kid... very happy with my birthday face... The software was paid, with an eye patch. The speaker had a double coil and everything I needed was in the parameter sheet, in the end I made a box of 80 liters hahahaha, later I learned that using both coils, the volume of the box is reduced by half. And that the TS data was for a coil and did not warn about the issue. Funny thing is, I built the box twice as big. The only way to simulate the response of the box was to put two subwoofers in an isobaric configuration, one of them outside the box, which did not really exist. I just needed the air volume and port dimensions. Whoever buys a box with a subwoofer (the complete kit of any brand) and only uses one coil is changing the response of the speaker, whose box was designed to use both coils, either in series or in parallel.
So, is it NOT possible to wire 2 4ohm DVC woofers to a 2ohm Class D Mono Block amp? The amp can take a 2ohm or 4ohm load, I just want the 2omh so I can get the 500 watts out of the amp. If I go 4ohm I'll only get 300 watts.
Thank you for your reply. I really wanted to get the 500 watts but I guess I'll settle for the 300 til I can afford an amp to match these subs. Thanks again!!
Maybe I’m overthinking it. But what happens to Watts when a channel is powering more than one speaker? If you have 1000 watts on a channel with 4 speakers. Are they all getting 1kW? Or is the pie cut up into 4-250 watt pieces?
A much easier formula to remember for calculating parallel where R = Resistance 1/R + 1/R + 1/R . . . = 1/R For three 4 ohm coils would be 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/0.75 1/0.75 = 1.3333.... ohms
@@DIYAudioGuy I’m new to your channel and I’m trying to learn from you so if possible can you please show us how to do it step by step on 3 subs please 🙏🏽
I have 2 dual voice coil speakers rated at 500 rms a piece. At 2ohms my amp out put is 500w. Is 1000rms combine for the two speakers to much for the amp at 2 ohms
Unfortunately, no. If you wire all of that up in parallel your will have a 1 ohm load on the amp, which the amp can't handle. You are going to need a different amp. I recommend this one: lddy.no/133la It is only rated to do 700 watts, but it has been tested and proven to produce over 1,200 if you have a decent electrical system. I have one on hand and hope to test it in a real-world setting. I think it will easy to 1,000 watts all day.
@@JoshM7 ive got plenty of series wiring , i was like tf too 😑 but electricity does precise speed and there is a direction... So i can see in extreme performance this being credable
I'd love to see where you read that, please cite the information. Series or Parallel doesn't matter - its the total load of the system. The amp doesn't know what it is doing, it just wants a load.
Hey guy! I've got an awesome question I believe? But first, thanks for your content! Alright, so, if you get 2 skar audio 8" subs, would it be plausible to build ONE box with one chamber ported, and one sealed to get the best of both worlds? I've researched this and I'm getting different responses. I believe all you'd have to do would be to " Fold" the port? I'm well capable of designing boxes. If I stay within the parameters, would it work??? I would love for you to make a video on this please! You're awsome man, very informative.
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Have you heard of anyone wiring a dual voice coil 4 ohm sub wired parallel with a single voice coil 8 ohm speaker? Thinking about hooking a car sub to a dj pro audio subwoofer. 8 ohm sub probably would be starved of wattage
I was a MECP First Class certified installer back in the ‘90’s. I learned by trial and error, read magazines and studied the very limited amount of resources available to me at the time. Man what I would’ve given for TH-cam back then! Great content, and thank you for what you do for the up and coming generation.
I remember the '90s, back before the internet was big. You couldn't just look something up, you need to know somebody that could teach you, or get your hands on a book. Lots of trial and error.
I think it's great you are making videos for the people who want to learn, encourage the new people as it can only make things better.
This guy is great. Thank you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bro this came on my headphones while I was weeding and now I’m gonna restructure my tiny ranger, I feel like I could outfit the NASA space shuttle to bang screw!!
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@@DIYAudioGuy despite my love of comments on the edge, I watched some more of your videos and I want to double down and compliment your endless positive energy. My parents both eventually ended up in secondary ed admin, I have met many many teachers and it is your natural calling, sir. :) thank you, I just fired up my ignition… let’s see…
@@DIYAudioGuy brother… I think I am retrieving all of my ohms now! Into a small 10 and a large 12 sealed :)
thanks for helping this dusty old drummer out. Now that I understand my ohms I can replace the tubes in that old Music Man hahaha! I promise, the comment flood has ended.
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I will say Mr. DIY Audio Guy, you make great videos for the beginners of car audio. There is so much confusion with so many people when they first break into car audio. As someone who has been in the car audio scene for over 10 years I will say your presentation and topics are well done.
Keep up the great work DIY audio guy. I would love to interview sometime if you are willing.
Absolutely! I will have get you on the Sound Advice Livestream when we get back to our normal schedule.
@@DIYAudioGuy I would be delighted and truly honored for the opportunity!
@@AwestruckAudioHertzhey i had a ? wanted advise from a audio guy im looking for a setup with Deep,Accurate,Tight,Punchy bass with Elite sound quality i dont 2 much care to ride around and blast them with the volume all the way up 24/7 but if i do i want VERY Clean tight bass with little to No raddling. I mainly just want to ride and have really deep,tight,punchy accurate bass on the mids n lows while my volume is down or mid range but if i chose to turn the volume up high i would still have High quality deep n clean bass and still have my music Very clear as far as the words and musical instruments in the background like snares etc.... I wanted to go with either One 12" sub or Two 10 inch subs n i was thinking either 1 kicker L7, 1 alpine R2, 1 kicker comp Q round, 1 american bass or 2 kicker comp Rs 12s... For the 10 inch 2 P3s, 2 american bass, 2 memphis mojos... Which setup or Brand subs would sound best One 12 inch or Two 10 inch for the type of High Quality deep accurate bass that im looking for im not planning on listening at High volumes 24/7 mainly want the best sounding deep bass for lows n mids at low to medium volume.... N what are some Top Notch amps to put out alot of good clean power and push the subs to their best potential i was looking at a 1800.1 Brutus Hifonics to push whatever One 12" sub i choose or a 1500.1 Orion XTR amp i know they are top notch n put out more power then they are rated .....
I’m getting ready to watch all your videos. I love audio and have for a long time. I definitely needed this broken down to me in the simplest form. I’m at the 4 minute mark of this video and leave a comment. Thanks My man
Glad you are getting something valuable from the content!
5 STARS for being so simple n clear...nah 10 STARS!!!
I give it 2.5 stars… but that’s because I ran both 5 star ratings in parallel. Sooo it’s kinda the same 👍🏻
Sorry that I'm not a newbie with audio but I was thinking maybe you were going to talk about the different loadings and how it affects the amp and damping for controlling the transducer/s and why you would choose a different impedance for different applications but that was my assumption by the title, other than that it was well done for interim knowledge for new people. Thanks for the video!
That's some complicated stuff!
Is this more in line with what you are looking for? th-cam.com/video/oavL19yvv7k/w-d-xo.html
@@DIYAudioGuy Another great video! I guess I'm just looking for more in-depth information and I can't lie I'm also checking to make sure people out there aren't feeding viewers bad information about audio. Let's face it the audio world is a science world with a lot of grey area in it and it's taken me well over two decades of work in the field to get a good grasp on when's and when nots. So when I find channels like yours it's nice to see people not being feed B.S. because of people who presume they KNOW for a fact because of their "anecdotal experience" which unfortunately came to them dew to their own ignorance and arrogance. But I digress you keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep watching and hopefully learning something new😁
@@jedpetersen3806 I appreciate that man! One of the reasons why I started making videos is because I saw some stuff out there that was just flat out wrong, and wrong in an obvious way. I only put stuff out there If I'm very certain that I've got it right. That does not mean that I'm always right. I've learned a lot from the many knowledgeable people that post comments.
My big challenge at the moment is I'm looking for a reputable source that can give me some formulas for understanding how a dual reflex (some call it a sixth order) bandpass enclosure works. I suspect there's probably some very gnarly math. That does not scare me off. Since you've been doing this professionally for a couple of decades you might be able to put me in the right direction. Like a peer-reviewed journal article or a patent or something like that.
@@DIYAudioGuy I'll look through my library and send you as much information as I've got access to. Unfortunately things that my location are very disheveled because of remodeling but I won't forget! Thanks again.
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Thanks for watching!
I love that you do this. Of course most of us know what all this is, I wish when I was learning that there was such a greatly explained video! Top notch info my friend!
Glad you liked it!
thanks Professor 😀for the video, very good explanation, class was definitely in session. Lol.
Hi, Need little help please. What would be the best subs to get the most power rms out of my old school MTX D81000 AMPLIFIER???
You just have to match the power and impedance of the amp to the power and impedance of the subwoofer. There are a ton of great subwoofers out there. Look in the video description you'll see links to the places I like to go to buy subwoofers.
@DIY Audio Guy. Ok i like this ones. You think i have enough power top push this subs? 12inch American bass, Elite Series 1,200rms 2,400 peak, 3VC?
Ok bro. I like this2- 12"s American Bass Elite 1,200rms 2,400 peak 3VC. Can 81000D mtx amp push this?
thanks, enjoy you content, and love the energy you have. keep educating and thanks again
Thank you! Will do!
You helped me out greatly thank you.
Glad I could help!
So for Pro Audio Subs at 8ohm i need to wire in parallel and i do so by divinding 8ohm by 2=4ohm at the amp per channel thats how i wire and solder two 18s in a single enclosure to give me a boost in power?
Yep! The dividing shortcut will work as long as all the resistors that you're wiring in parallel have the same resistance.
@@DIYAudioGuy 100% thanks i just didn't want to be crazy when wiring the dual 18's up.
How much power supply do I need to power pioneer gm d9601 2400watts mono while am using two subs 3003d4
So if you’re in a pinch and you don’t have speaker wire to wire your subwoofers and you want to wire your subwoofers but don’t have any speaker wire laying around can you cut the cords off of some old broken lamps that are laying around in your garage and use that as speaker wire instead of actual speaker wire.
That is typically 18 gauge, which is not thick enough for big subwoofers or long runs.
Yes!!!!!!! I bought a set of duals and no clue ….. Edit: nice so it was as simple as I thought 💭 it was =] better to watch this than experiment 🔬thank you sir
Glad to help!
Does any of this matter if it’s a powered subwoofer hooked up to the receiver via LFE?
Nope. This only maters if you are want to build your own or rewire the one you have.
I have a joson jupitor amp it is rated for 4 to 16 amps. I have on one channel 1 speaker only a 12" instrumental woofer. The amp is rated for 1000 watts perchannel at 4 ohms. My woofer is 8 ohm. How to i wire it to amp for 4 ohms. That is only 1 speaker and not 2. 9n second channel i run a 2 way crossover that does a midrange woofer and tweeter it is comboned only 320 watts for that channel. So how to hook the 900 watt ingle chanell to run in 4 ohms?
Can I connect a dual 2 ohm 8 inch subwoofer with a 4 ohm svc 12 inch together?
You can, but that does not mean you should.
Doesnt it running it at 2ohms drain more power from the battery then 4ohms
I understand setting gain with multimeter and 1 (4 ohm) sub, but I don't understand when it's 2 (4 ohm) subs in parallel. Do I just calculate it now for 2 ohm and measure at the end of each speaker run?
Yes, measure at the amp with the subs disconnected.
Question... I have my both subs wired to 1ohm wen I turn up the music sounds like my sub or subs are making a ugly chattering type sound is that over powered or subs bottoming out?
That might be an air leak, to me air leaks sound like paper "rattling" Play a test tone at moderate volume and run your hands around the subwoofer mounting flange, the terminal cup and any edges or seams in the enclosure.
Just found your channel. Question. I'm planning to build enclosure with x2 dayton um18-22 in 1 box, how would I connect that to my berhinger nx6000? Both subs are dvc 4ohms?
That's a dual two ohm subwoofer, not a dual 4ohm. You can just wire the voice coils in series so that each subwoofer has a 4 ohm load and run in stereo. If the amp is bridgeable you can run the subwoofers in series for an 8 ohm load the amp.
How do u wire 2 10in dual vc to 2ohm?
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Thank you!
Can a frozen DVC sub be repaired? No movement in cone at all.
Yes, you can buy a thing called a recone kit for some subwoofers.
4 ohms sub that i want is out of stock. if i wire the 2 ohm sub to make it 4 ohm, is it just as good as the 4 ohm sub? or should i wait for the 4 ohm to be in stock.
I am assuming that you are looking at a dual 2 ohm sub, if so then yes you can wire the two voice coils in parallel and it will work just like a 4 ohm sub. There may be a few slight difference between the two, but it will be slight.
Hi there friend can i parallel 2 underseat subwoofers ?
It depends on what you're trying to do. If it's those weak little thin enclosures with a built-in amplifier, you cannot parallel them because they each have drone amplifier. But you can certainly Install two of them. But if you just got two subwoofers, no amplifier built into an enclosure, absolutely you can parallel those.
This is old, but i am hoping someone still stumbles on it. I've never run DVC speakers before, so I have a question. I need a 4 ohm load. If I got 2 4 ohm DVC speakers, does it matter if I run the voice coils parallel and then the speakers in series, or the voice coils in series and the speakers in parallel? Both should mathematically result in a 4 ohm load, right?
That is a great question, join us on our next live show and we will try to give a detailed answer: bit.ly/3PYKG5P
Best way to wire 2- dual 4ohms 10" cvx.
2ohms or 8ohms/ parallel or series on a Sundown SIA 2500d amp?
Parallel.
@@DIYAudioGuy thank you. Much appreciated!
Hi love the channel just came across it. One question can I connect a one coil 8 ohm midrange woofer to a one or two ohm amplifier. Thank you in advance.
Yes. But you cannot go the other way. An 8 ohm stable amp (most home stereos, for example) should not be connected to a 4 ohm speaker.
@@DIYAudioGuy thanks again.
I have a Pioneer TS-W311D4 dual V/c @400 ohms rms My amplifier is two channel amp rated @ 2 x 250 watts into 4 ohms ../ .. and 2 x 400 watts into 2 ohms ... this amp is 2 ohm stable... My basshead friends tell me that I must series this DVC to 8 ohms, because the amp will blow the speakers or even the amp. they say that the amp at an 8 ohm load will easily drive the Pioneer and not overheat plus the dvc wont burnout from clipping or too much power ... Your advice will be truly appreciated
Most amplifiers like that are only four ohm stable when bridged.
Technically the real difference in the term impedance and resistance is the impedance is both the resistance and the reactants together so the impedance covers all the aspects of the reactants and the resistance when you introduce a wave into a chamber you get what's called capacitive reactants and when you have a vent you get inductive reactants. A speaker is actually a reactive load.
So I have a single 4 ohm subwoofer what wiring configurations can I use
With just one driver and one voice coil there is only one way to hook it up.
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Ok so i need some help understanding whats going on with my amp and subs i have a 8” dvc 2 ohm sub and a 12” dvc 1 ohm sub soo i parallel wired the 8” to the 12” and then back to the the wire terminal and my voltmeter is showing 1.1-1.3 so its giving me a 1 ohm reading but why is my amp going to protection mode when the music is asking for the most bass the volume has nothing to do with it at any volume its cutting out…why??
It's perfectly normal for the multimeter to read something different, remember that it picks up the resistance in the wire and the resistance in the test leads.
If you have all those voice calls paralleled then you have the entire thing wired down to 75 ohms nominal impedance. Your amp is cutting out simply because you have it wired at far too low of a resistance. So when you hit those hard notes the amp tries to put out more current than it can and it will cut out or go into protect.
I don't recommend mismatching drivers, I definitely don't recommend pairing drivers with different impedance or different size.
It's not because I'm some kind of a speaker stop, it's because it doesn't work well.
I recommend that you buy a second 12. Wire The voice coils in series to get a 2 ohm load on each subwoofer and then parallel the subwoofers together to get a one ohm load. You will get a much better result.
@@DIYAudioGuy ok that makes sense so im actually going lower than 1 ohm right and its rating is 1800x1 at 1ohm another driver at the moment is out of the question so if i wired those two drivers in series that would bring up from under 1ohm??
@@davidleyva6567 Yes, but you are going to cook the smaller sub. So go ahead and plan on getting a second 12 so that it is ready when the 8 dies.
I have a 2022 Audi Q5 with the bang and olufsen which has a DVC 6” tire sub at 2x100w and 2x8 Ohms. I bought a cerwin vega tire sub that is a 4 Ohm DVC. I want a direct plug and play. The wiring harness of the Cerwin Vega has 8 wires that merge into 4 wires. Two of the same wires are what merge. Is there a way to connect the sub in a way to match the 2ch 8 ohm system?
I don't have enough information to give you a reliable answer. It all boils down to how the factory sub was wired. You may have to wire the aftermarket subwoofer in series. When you do this you will cut your amplifier power in half. I don't think you are going to get a good result. My advice is to invest in an aftermarket amplifier or see if Cerwin Vega offers an amplified version of that sub.
@@DIYAudioGuy they do offer a powered sub. I accidentally bought this one and it looks like it's plug and play. I was debating on buying a small amp to add but I don't plan on keeping the car for more than 3 years
@@DIYAudioGuy the Sub I have is the VS12SH. I tested it on my car as is and although the Bass sounded lower, it sounded fuller. With the setting turned up all the way, I didn’t get any amp cut off or clipping. People experienced that when replacing the original 6.5 small sub with a kicker. I’m wondering if I should leave it.
@@DanielGuzman83 My concern is that if you wire it wrong you will cook the factory amp. I don't want to give advice that could potentially damage gear so I always err on the side of caution.
@@DIYAudioGuy I retuned the sub. I am just going to buy an amp with a down facing Solo Baric 10” box. I never installed an amp before so I’m not sure if I should do it or pay somebody.
Thank you so much for the video. Using the parallel technic, can I do the same with my wireless subwoofer (from soundbar)? My sub driver that came along with the soundbar( samsung q950a) is only 8 inch 4omhs. The wireless sub has no output and neither samsung sells same model subwoofer. All I wanna do is hook up wire directly from the sub driver using your parallel technics and then sends the audio signal to a small sub amplifier that can handle my new polk subwoofer 12 inch 200 watt. Will this change the overall impedance or impact inadvertently in the process?
My intended simple steps below:
1. Hook up wire from wireless subdriver inside the sub cabinet(parallel)
2. send the audio connection (wire) to a sub amp.
3. then send the connection to new subwoofer.
Eternally grateful if you'd reply.
If the sub has no output then the amp powering the sub is probably blown, if so then nothing you are proposing will work. Your best bet is to see if it is still under warranty and then send it back to Samsung.
@@DIYAudioGuy thanks for your response.
My bad, English is my second language.
My soundbar is perfectly working including the sub. It's just that the bass is very underwhelming and so I intend to add extra sub. Since the subwoofer is wireless, it does not have any outlet to hook up another subwoofer. Will the steps I intend to do work without repercussion?
I know this , can you do the same but more basic? Like positive to positive, negative to negative equal to.
Just curious. Is it possible to run parallel/series? For example, 3 dual 1 woofers. Each ran parallel to .5 then ran in series between woofers for a 1.5 end load?
Yes, you can do that.
@@DIYAudioGuy awesome. Thabks alot 😁
Great vid...
I have 2 question please.
1.Does a DVC subwoofer have more output than a SVC?
2.when we see "500w" RMS on a DVC subwoofer, is it 250w per a coil?
1) No 2) Yes
@@DIYAudioGuy as in sir? Wow…. Is this a legit! Then thanks
@@DIYAudioGuy many Thanks sir
If dual voice coil of 4 ohms 300w in series connection what is the wattage of the speaker
The power ratings are usually listed as a total amount of power for the entire driver. So each voice call would be 150 Watts and the speaker would be 300.
Is it safe to hook up two different ohm speakers in series?
It is safe, but the two drivers will be getting an unequal power split. It's believed to reduce performance and reduced longevity. Put one of them on Facebook marketplace and see if somebody will swap you even for one with the correct impedance.
Isn’t any sub will produce higher quality of sound with more impedance vs low? I’m taking about damping factor value
I have a dual 6 ohm subwoofer connected with only 1 terminal, works great and has been like that since 5 years ago, my Amp is 6 ohms.
Most manufacturers don't recommend only connecting one of the voice coils. But if it's working for you, and you're happy with what you've got don't change anything.
@@DIYAudioGuy A long time ago I downloaded the BassBox software to make a subwoofer for the car, I was a kid... very happy with my birthday face... The software was paid, with an eye patch.
The speaker had a double coil and everything I needed was in the parameter sheet, in the end I made a box of 80 liters hahahaha, later I learned that using both coils, the volume of the box is reduced by half. And that the TS data was for a coil and did not warn about the issue. Funny thing is, I built the box twice as big.
The only way to simulate the response of the box was to put two subwoofers in an isobaric configuration, one of them outside the box, which did not really exist. I just needed the air volume and port dimensions.
Whoever buys a box with a subwoofer (the complete kit of any brand) and only uses one coil is changing the response of the speaker, whose box was designed to use both coils, either in series or in parallel.
So, is it NOT possible to wire 2 4ohm DVC woofers to a 2ohm Class D Mono Block amp? The amp can take a 2ohm or 4ohm load, I just want the 2omh so I can get the 500 watts out of the amp. If I go 4ohm I'll only get 300 watts.
Correct.
Thank you for your reply. I really wanted to get the 500 watts but I guess I'll settle for the 300 til I can afford an amp to match these subs. Thanks again!!
Maybe I’m overthinking it. But what happens to Watts when a channel is powering more than one speaker?
If you have 1000 watts on a channel with 4 speakers. Are they all getting 1kW? Or is the pie cut up into 4-250 watt pieces?
250 each
A much easier formula to remember for calculating parallel where R = Resistance
1/R + 1/R + 1/R . . . = 1/R
For three 4 ohm coils would be
1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/0.75
1/0.75 = 1.3333.... ohms
That is the standard way of presenting the formula. My version makes it even easier, all you have to do is use matched subwoofers and divide.
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If you want to get a excellent meter then get a BK Precision LCR meter. Probably over kill for car audio but I like them.
I'll be sure to Google that.
Can you please show us how to wire 3 DVC 4 ohms coil subs to 1.3 ohms please 🙏🏽
That would be mathematically impossible.
@@DIYAudioGuy ok so I can only drop them to a 2.6 ohm?
@@dewaltonlyrestistrash3934 or 0.6. which is definitely not something I would recommend.
@@DIYAudioGuy I’m new to your channel and I’m trying to learn from you so if possible can you please show us how to do it step by step on 3 subs please 🙏🏽
I have 2 dual voice coil speakers rated at 500 rms a piece.
At 2ohms my amp out put is 500w.
Is 1000rms combine for the two speakers to much for the amp at 2 ohms
Unfortunately, no. If you wire all of that up in parallel your will have a 1 ohm load on the amp, which the amp can't handle. You are going to need a different amp. I recommend this one: lddy.no/133la It is only rated to do 700 watts, but it has been tested and proven to produce over 1,200 if you have a decent electrical system. I have one on hand and hope to test it in a real-world setting. I think it will easy to 1,000 watts all day.
Question... Ive seen jbl say not to wire drivers in series ... Under any circumstances... Any truth in this?
That seems odd to me, I would like to know their reasons for that.
I'm with DIY Audio Guy. Wonder why they say that.
@@JoshM7 read here ... jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204374200-dual-voice-coil-dvc-wiring-tutorial?mobile_site=true
@@JoshM7 ive got plenty of series wiring , i was like tf too 😑 but electricity does precise speed and there is a direction... So i can see in extreme performance this being credable
I'd love to see where you read that, please cite the information.
Series or Parallel doesn't matter - its the total load of the system. The amp doesn't know what it is doing, it just wants a load.
how do these things affect sound quality
They don't.
What about running 4 subs. The box has 2 per chamber
If you have room in your car then go for it!
Hey guy! I've got an awesome question I believe? But first, thanks for your content! Alright, so, if you get 2 skar audio 8" subs, would it be plausible to build ONE box with one chamber ported, and one sealed to get the best of both worlds? I've researched this and I'm getting different responses. I believe all you'd have to do would be to " Fold" the port? I'm well capable of designing boxes. If I stay within the parameters, would it work??? I would love for you to make a video on this please! You're awsome man, very informative.
I think you would get some phase issues that will cause a bunch of cancellation.
is this not called a bandpass box? with a sealed and ported in one box?
The subwoofers were face down so that could affect the ohm reading since the driver's are being compressed.
Interesting, I will have to to test that out sometime.
Great Vid
There is also a function button on the calculator to do the math easily also...
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After the third time of hearing him say parallel I'm ending the video
That sounds like a fun drinking game. Every time I see parallel take a shot!
Series or parallel ?????
Both!
@@DIYAudioGuy wich preffer for high bass
@@besimvm7241The goal is to wire them to match your amplifier. One is not better than the other. th-cam.com/video/MhM750iJZ5Y/w-d-xo.html
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Have you heard of anyone wiring a dual voice coil 4 ohm sub wired parallel with a single voice coil 8 ohm speaker? Thinking about hooking a car sub to a dj pro audio subwoofer. 8 ohm sub probably would be starved of wattage
In general I don't recommend mixing different subwoofers. But, if both are 8 ohm then both will get the same power.
@DIYAudioGuy Yeah I think the lower impedanced sub would hog all the wattage. Might be kind of a lopsided sound. Probably would bother me lol.
I’m more confused now than before I started
Which part is confusing, I may need to make a new video.
Or get a bigger amp where you don't have to max it out
OR! Get a bigger amp AND max it out!
I just got more slower
Sometimes that is a good thing.
Wats better d2 or d4 in a single sub setup
No difference, just make sure you wire it to get the correct amount of power from your amplifier th-cam.com/video/pZPorYW-Wqo/w-d-xo.html