Excelebration to win the QEII and his nemesis , the greatest miler of all time, Frankel to seal a truly fantastic career with victory in the aptly named Champion Stakes. I feel privileged to have witnessed this great horse in all his victories over the past three seasons, and I really hope that Frankel has a long and successful career at stud. Horses like Frankel come along once or twice in a lifetime and I am thankful that I was here to enjoy the exploits of this brilliant animal.
what a fantastic put together film of Frankel. well done. we must not compare todays horses and theirs a lot on both frankel and black caviar. They are both amazing in their own right and I am very much looking forward to them both. I was at newbury fo the lokinge and was just messmorised (if i spelt that right lo) for the rest of the day ..... awsome.
Frankel as the speed to win a July Cup/Golden Jubilee but the stamina to win a Guineas pulling his back teeth out the all way. Hes a remarkable horse...
Excelebration as put beyond all concievable doubt how great Frankel is by winning the Jacque Le Marois today beating 9 Gr1 winners including 8 horses who have won a Gr1 over a mile. If that form isn't solid enough to grant Frankel's reputation as the worlds best and one of the greatest of all time then I don't know what he needs to do to prove it! Glad for Excelebration, He deserved that and what a shrewd investment from Coolmore yet again...
What a horse, Im sure Black Caviar is a fine horse but if she ever tried to put it up to Frankel over a mile he'd leave her for dead, Shes a sprinter through and through. The way she won the 5f race the other day told us that. Pure power and speed, Frankel as all the same tools but as stamina to go with it. When he's winning all the mile and a quarter races next year he will stamp himself as the finest thoroughbred the world as seen since Sea Bird II...
Until the horseracing phenomenon called Frankel arrived on the scene, I would never have believed that there would be another horse, in my lifetime, that could have matched Brigadier Gerard as a miler, let alone outshone him. But that is exactly what Frankel has done. I have been involved in racing far too long for my head to be turned by "flash in the pan" performances, and for the first couple of races that is what I thought Frankel was. I now have absolutely no doubt that he is the best.
15 individual Gr1 winners, 29 Gr1's in total have all fell at the feet of Frankel, 4 of his victims have once been rated within the 5 top rated horses in the world. Excelebration currently the second best miler in the world can't get within 5 lengths of him. Yes We all want him to step up in trip and prove himself over 10 furlongs but all in good time...
and this is just another to add to the list. Both great champions, Appreciate them for what they are and what they've achieved. Its as simple as that...
I don't profess to know a whole hell of a lot. But one thing I do know is that in his 40+ years as a trainer, Sir Henry Cecil has trained some incredible horses, and in his 40+ years as an owner, Prince Khalid Abdullah has owned some incredible horses. When both say that Frankel is the best they've ever trained, owned, or seen, you can't just summarily dismiss that as hype.
Are you joking? Frankel just keeps getting better and better and better. He was 0.69 secs outside the track record there on good to soft ground going away from the best milers in Europe. Hes unbelievable
You have to remember that Cecil is almost revered in UK racing. People want Sir Henry to win and want him to have a champion. That is part of the adulation of Frankel who is also of course the winner of 10 from 10 including 6 G1s with one of the greatest ever classic performances at Newmarket.
Great film really enjoyed it.... superb summer coming up with Frankel doing his stuff.... BC coming over for Ascot and camelot going for the illusive TC... exciting times...
I think it's really hard to compare the all-time greats across generations. But in my 30+ years of following this sport Frankel is without a doubt one of the greatest horses I've seen in my lifetime. I'm not sure I can remember another horse who's first big initial burst of speed left fields so helpless and settled the race as quickly as Frankel's initial burst of speed did. Whether you think Frankel's the greatest ever or not, it's not likely we'll see another horse of his caliber for 30 years.
Hope all you Aussie clowns just saw that from Frankel in the Queen Anne. Annihilated a top class field by 11 lengths just outside the course record on good to soft ground. He is the true superstar in the world. He is unbelievable...
Truth is, both Frankel and Black Caviar are incredible horses and I as much as anyone would love to see them race each other. Forget anyone's personal opinion on either horse or the virtual racing results, the real proof will only be determined on the paddock . Maybe the owners of Frankel should bring the horse to Australia and have a go.
Not only that, Excelebration was racing left handed for the first time in his life having travelled 10,000 miles to race on a rock hard surface having only 13 days previous raced on bottomless ground at Ascot. To only go 2 lengths down after that is some performance. Would Wise Dan have beat Excelebration in Europe so easily or in the QE2 the race before the Breeders Cup Mile? Who knows but Wise Dan only beating Excelebration by 2 lengths just further enhances how good Frankel was...
Black Caviar is one of my favourite horses but put her up against Frankel & she aint got a hope in hell. Frankel is that damn good!! The best most of us will ever see!
@@keithwilliams2077 what are you talking about ? Black Caviar tore 2 muscles that day and STILL won, beating that year's French Horse of the Year. Even the UK's very own Euro biased Timeform rated that performance as the 3rd worst of her career so let that sink in.......she put up the 3rd WORST performance of her career and that was still good enough to win Royal Ascot's premier sprint race, beating that year's French Horse of the Year !! Had she ran to her true form she's have won in a canter by 6 lengths being eased down the last 100m. Soul was getting beaten easily by Star Witness (placed in both Kings Stand & Diamond Jubilee the next year - should have won the Kings Stand after blowing the start) at level weights and the start prior to Star Witness leaving for the UK Black Caviar destroyed him 8 lengths giving the colt 11lbs (5kg) yet there was Soul finishing on Black Caviar's heels at Ascot. Soul needed to find 5 lengths to be competitive with Star Witness what did he need to find to be competitive with Black Caviar if Star Witness was getting beaten 8 lengths by the wonder mare carrying 11lbs less ? 15 lengths ? 18 lengths ? So you either believe Soul miraculously found 15 lengths as soon as he hopped of the plane in the UK or you believe Black Caviar ran way below her best due to the injuries she sustained. I ask you which is the more likely scenario ? It's pretty obvious isn't it ?
@regginald81 @MrDraven37 exactly the point! he beat canford cliffs by 5+ lengths after being within a length of him at the furlong and a half point, the race was ran completely differently to the guineas so the 2 cannot even be slightly compared. canford cliffs would not have got near him even if he was in the guineas.
More and more Aussies infecting the Frankel pages. Jesus, Just appreciate the fact that you've got an horse anywhere near the top 3 rated horses in the world because lets be honest its a rare occurance...
Frankel is hugely impressive, there is no taking away that at all, and for me he does deserve to be, at this time, the highest rated horse in the world. For me that is on his 2000 guineas run though, I still find that the most impressive. Far as BC taking him on, I just don't really see that happening at all. She's a sprinter, he's a miler. If there was a higher rated horse at a mile and a half, or 2 mile, would you expect Frankel to them on when you don't know if he can run the distance?
International Federation of Horseracing Authorities, World Thoroughbred Rankings Period : 1 December 2011 to 28 May 2012. 1st Frankel(GB) rating 138, 2nd Black Caviar(Aus) rating 130 Its tough on BC to be around at the same time as Frankel, but get over it - its not even close (and its going to get worse for you!)
Just have a look at the IFHA's ratings. These ratings are set on a worldwide scale by handicappers throughout the world. 1. Frankel 140 2. Cirrus Des Aigles 130 3. Excelebration 130 4. Orfevre 127 5. Wise Dan 127 Just look at whos number 2 and 3. Both beaten out of sight by Frankel. Chin up
Will be interesting to see whether Frankel comes back to the pack a bit at 4yo (ala Workforce). Hopefully he remains just as dominant because if he isn't it may mean we see less champion 3yo race on. I commend connections for continuing to race him.
I can't think of another sprinter in the world that she needs to beat to prove shes the best sprinter? Yes she's come to Royal Ascot and as been took out of her comfort zone but so have alot of Aussie sprinters down the years, There isn't anything in this field that should trouble her. Both Peter Moody and Henry Cecil have continued to do right by there horses, Everyone slates Frankels record but if you look through his form its absolutely rock solid..
Its funny the injury to Canford Cliffs came a week after the Sussex and not immediately, I don't think He was ever injured. Another ploy by the Coolmore team, He was comfortably dispatched by Frankel. As for Sea The Stars how can you compare him and Frankel one is a truly outstanding middle distance runner capable of winning at a mile, Another is a truly outstanding miler only being given the chance to step beyond 8 furlongs this year...
quite Frankel-ey (sorry) an amazing animal. I love the Simon Holt commentary on the Sussex when he (and the world) realises just how good he really is. I can't wait until the flat season
@MrDraven37 when they have probably not even seen all his races. I can't really find a race where it has really been set up for him to post a fast time. I think though you will see this this year as there will be a few in the middle distance rank that will try and test his stamina and set the strong early pace that i think he needs to show what he really can do.
Totally agree mate. I'm a huge Frankel fan but I'll admit it's not fair to expect BC to take him on at a mile, presumably in England. The cards would be stacked so much in his favour, she would have no chance. Truth is, it just isn't going to happen unless Moody takes one hell of a punt.
The international racing community are unanimous in their opinion of his global standing, for instance International Federation of Horseracing Authorities, World Thoroughbred Rankings Period : 1 December 2011 to 28 May 2012. 1st Frankel (GB) rating 138 ... the rest - nowhere
Frankels sectionals on courses more undulating than anything Black Caviar as ever seen aren't a million miles away, Seeing as though shes a sprinter her sectionals should be that much better but in the Guineas Frankel was running sub 11 furlongs for the first 4 furlongs and Newmarket - Rowley Mile is probably the stiffest mile straight in the world. It was a freakish performance
This horse could have been retired by now but the fact Khalid Abdullah as kept him in training shows you want a sporting man he is, If his pedigree is anything to go by the step up in trip can only bring about improvement and I cannot see a horse in the world today that would trouble Frankel over a mile or for that matter a mile and a quarter. The race for Black Caviar and Frankel would be 7 furlongs and I would love to have witnessed such a race. Generations are always robbed of big races...
the reason we dont have big numbers traveling internationally here in america is because most of our horses wouldnt be able to race anywhere else because of all the banned substances in other countries that we give our horses.tvg a few months back had a big piece on that reason.simon bray was talking about when they would buy yearlings and 2 year olds here then bring them back to europe how a month later the horses would lose so much size because they werent on steroids.
Lee you make good points. However, with regards to dodging the derby, it was a good move, earlier on in the 3 year old season he was very excitable and temperamental, he would have spend most of the derby fighting Tom trying who would be trying to get him to settle, using petrol and probably falling flat on his face on the home stretch. He's settled more now and should get 10f and we'd all hope 12 (being out of Galileo) but 12 doesn't seem to be getting mentioned much. So maybe it is a bit far.
To be fair, timeform rates Australian horses higher than any other rating system. The WTA which isn't Eurobiased slants even more in the European direction. Timeform and all handicapping/rating systems have your sprinters as the best. But the majority of the top horses come from Europe as rated by all organisations. do you not think that it's possible, with all this info in mind. That Euroracing is of a higher standard at the minute? Experts are in a better position to call rather than me or you
And I agree She is a Champion and she would be here too. But In the Same Breath so would Frankel. Having experienced the horses in our own countries we are going to think ours are stronger going off opinion and some facts we take ourselves to prove our points. Numbers don't mean better at the top. It's the breeding operations in place that count. The people who come out with the ratings are in the best position to show us who is the best, the research, particularly on top horses is unbelievable.
You can mention any other great horses! But this is the present n with such much depression about hes come at a time when people need a lift n to celebrate seein something special.
I wouldn't mind Frankel getting beaten so longs as they have a go with him. Unbeaten runs are meaningless unless you've gone out of your comfort zone. I'd love to see him in the Arc. But I'd love to see BC in the Sussex too whether Frankel races or not. Because I can guarantee you that would be the stiffest test she will come across. So long as you get the likes of Excelebration running. Saturday 4 of the to =7 will go head to head. It's good for racing.
@liverpool5917 exactly which is basically what happened to canford cliffs, never been put under that sort of pressure, when he does he drifts markedly left like in his greenham 2nd place few years back.
yea i realise that but why not it would be HUGE and plus BC ran 1400 in the CF Orr thats close enough to a mile and frankel always hits his peak with a couple hundred to run
I completely agree with you to an extent. Our prize money is pitiful and only serves to maintain the status quo amongst the large breeding operations and the smaller operations find it very difficult to make a living. Then you have all the bookmakers making millions and then moving their operations offshore so they don't have to pay tak to our government, they are the ones who should be increasing the prize money in the game over here as they are the ones getting the most out of the sport.
Yeah Flemington where we get over 400,000 attending for the 4 days of the world famous Flemington Spring Carnival. Just ask Europe's major trainers as they are here every year trying to get a slice of a decent cheque !!! Even the British Racing Authorities come over to see how its done. Melb Cup $6.5 million, Cox Plate $3 million, Caulfield Cup $3 million & thats just in a 3 week period lol lol
@sp319 i didnt actually say 'one paced' i said ive never seen Black Caviar firmly off the bridle because majority of her races have been won at a canter or without too much pressure on her, racing over a well run/undulating track mile she couldnt cope with frankel.
@joemynes Also what's to say Black Caviar has any more off the bridle, she might be one paced, never been off the bridle so who can say she isn't, once Frankel puts it to her she might not find anymore....
All good mate. And we will never see Frankel in Aus, there is no way they would ever do that, and while I think that it is funny how they always expect Australian horses to travel over to the UK to 'prove' themselves, they only ever send their 2 milers to Australia. They would be risking too much with Frankel to send him abroad. If they took a go at the Arc with him, and he won, then hate to say it but I would have to really think he is the best ever.
You make a good point. But it's quality rather than quantity that counts. Your horses generally enjoy the most success in sprints but our sprinters aren't very highly rated either and to be honest I can't really think of an Aussie horse from the top of my head that has won top middle distance races in Europe. I know SYT won in Ireland against pretty poor fields , but in England I think Timeform got him bang on. What are your views of the WTR's mate? Because they show an even bigger gap.
No Breeders Cup? Us Americans would love to see him in person. Surely he can win the $2 Million BC Mile with ease. The only American that may give him a race is WISE DAN.
@MrDraven37 very naive. If you had watched the 2000 guineas you would realise that both these horse tried to go with Frankel in that race and then folded . The head on shot tells it all, he is cruising along in the first 5f at sprinters pace and they are having to get after their mounts just to stay in touch with him.
Look at Tulloch for example (I wont go back as far as Phar Lap)...he won 11 Grp1's & 14 from 16 in his 3yo year alone incl 3 Derbys & a Caulfield Cup where he broke the world record for a mile 1/2 on turf. His next start in the Victoria Derby his win was outstanding beating Prince Darius by 8 lengths. Prince Darius then ran in the Melbourne Cup & was beaten a head. Tulloch missed his 4yo & most of his 5yo year but still came back & won a Cox Plate, 2x QE Stks, Mackinnon Stks etc @ Grp1 level
Just 2 points there kopking; firstly your view that Secretariat is the greatest of all time is your opinion. To say it is clear is inaccurate, especially taking into account his 5 defeats. Frankel has not even been pushed yet, we don't know how good he actually could be. He hasn't just beaten his opposition, he has destroyed it time and again. He could be ANYTHING. Time will tell us where he finally stands but he has earned the right to be mentioned alongside any horse.
Oh I agree that the majority of people from the UK think their horses are the best, and they also think that they have the best races as well, though some at least admit that the French have the best race in the world with the Arc. My point was that I respect Frankel and think he is hugely impressive, particularly his last win. I think to be considered best ever, he needs to race somewhere else other than the UK. By the way mate, I'm an Aussie as well, love BC, but also admire Frankel.
If you really knew racing.. in this current age where horses are prepared and trained for a certain distance.. sprinter, miler, stayer.. you would never say that distance is irrelevant... The racing world has changed, we are not in the era where you saw a horse like Kingston Town was able to win at 1200m and stretch out and win the Sydney Cup at 3200m (2 miles). It just doesn't work like that anymore, get used to it.
Frankel is a miler. He's won G!'s at a mile and 7furlongs. If all goes to plan he will have won G1's at 10f by the end of the season. Meaning if all goes to plan he'll have won at a sprint distance a mile and a middle distance. Yes there are differences in % there but the point of fact is its still a 800m difference between 1200 (her optimal) and 2000 as there is 1600 (his optimal) and 2400. You've just used % to twist the argument in her favor knowing I mean actual variance in distances.
@MrDraven37 mate that is just an example of what he does to horses and they are quality horses, just no where near the quality of Frankel. CC didn't lose by that much because that race was run in a different manner. Why do you think no horses have tried to set a fast early pace in Frankel's races? What would happen if BC ran her final 3f sectionals at the start of her race?
I'd argue that Excelebration to be fair to him is a top quality horse, who had a bad day. I fear the Queen Anne may have broken him and he'll never be the same again. I honestly think the only other real opposition is CDA and SYT. I know Atlantic Jewel would also be good to see but we all know what happened to BC and what the rigours of travel can do. I certainly wouldn't put my horse though what she had to.
When Queally unleashed Frankel, Richard Hughes and Canford Cliffs were left for dead. Canford Cliffs was retired because of the investment Coolmore had made in him. They knew two defeats at the hands of a potential Juddmonte stallion wasn't good news for them, Theres noway Canford Cliffs was ever going to turn the tables on Frankel and he was swiftly scuttled on to stud to preserve his reputation...
Yep I wish the owner would've realized that Frankel needed to go out, not for money but to create bigger audience for this sport.. that being said I think Frankel proved on various situations across country on different tracks and goings, left/right-handed tracks, sharp/gallop tracks, etc, Also its easy to forget that he beat numerous adversaries that won international trophies like Breeders Cup in St Nicholas Abbey, etc
@leedelaney70 yes i do remember back in 2009 when scenic blast won over 5f, the argument i was making is over a mile she wouldnt get close to frankel, i do hope she comes over and wins the 5/6f races here at royal ascot, but over a mile it wouldn't be a contest.
Look at the timeform, they know more than me and you! They seem to back up my opinion that BC races donkeys and destroys them whereas Frankels race thoroughbred racehorses at the top of their game and destroys them. He can win from the front, win being held up ... He's so versatile! His pace is matched by BC but its his cruising speed that is so high that can be held for much longer than BC!
Utter bullshit,she came there and beat your best,did he ever truly meet the best? Like they say it was a marketing ploy in selected fields,needed a pacemaker in 4 horsefields wtf?overrated
@@davemarsh65 truth always hurts hey,overrated as Frankel getting unbelievable ratings against horses that wouldn't rate.Champion UK 3yo yeh I agree you can't deny that,but greatest racehorse ever? Now that's a big call without racing the worlds best,at least enable and a few of your others did and I'd rate them miles ahead of him especially sea the stars
@@elgransenor1472 as a follower of horseracing, yes. Be nothing better being an owner to watch and travel around the world watching her. I see farkalls filly won here,Hungry heart,there's a couple here but she seems to be the best at the moment. There's heaps of canford cliffs offspring running as well. Addybb got beat by very elegent but I don't think she will next time,he seems to lose his first up and seemed to needed the run.Eduardo will win again, I was on him and I think you'll see him over there soon he's super quick and will be our best sprinter for a while I think
He wins by 11 lengths so people refuse to put it down to Frankel brilliance and immediately question the other horses? He beat Nathienel who subsequently beat Workforce, Sir Nicolas' Abbey, Rewilding. He destroyed Canford Cliffs by 5l in GG who beat Goldikova and I doubt even you can question her ability. Your argument is flawed, infact its offensive.
Shes 6 now, When as she ever been to Dubai or America or England? Shes raced continually in her comfort zone and against clearly inferior horses to preserve her record. Until she faces something of the highest quality I will always doubt her 'true' ability
Your all theories on Black Caviar beating Frankel over a mile is pure madness, She wouldn't get a mile in her horse box in Europe hence the reason for swerving the Sussex Stakes if connections really thought she had a chance over a mile she'd be heading for the Sussex Stakes. Instead shes heading back home to beat another bunch of no hopers to prove what exactly? Hasn't she proved herself continually back in Australia and for that matter in the middle east?
I'm not about to enter the "Who's the best ever" argument, but it pains me to hear that people think Frankel's opposition has been crap. In his first race he beat Nathaniel, who went on to win the King George at Ascot beating Derby and Arc winner Workforce. Canford Cliffs was a brilliant horse who beat 3 time breeders cup winner Goldikova comfortably, but he was murdered by Frankel. July cup winner Dream Ahead proved no match for Frankel. There are countless others. Frankel is a superstar.
Better than Frankel on what basis exactly? How have you come to that judgement? If you look at both Black Caviar and Frankels best rivals on the track it would be Haylist and Excelebration both rated by the international handicapper at 126. Frankel as beaten Excelebration continually by either 4 or 5 lengths. The most Black Caviar as ever beat Hay List is 3 1/4 lengths and on there last couple of meetings Hay List as continually closed the gap... So tell Me, How is she better?
As far as I can see every other horse is in the same boat? They can all use the pacemaker too? If they don't have the class to maintain the pace then it's tough shit .
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Frankel I miss you also such a great horse I loved watching you race !
Excelebration to win the QEII and his nemesis , the greatest miler of all time, Frankel to seal a truly fantastic career with victory in the aptly named Champion Stakes. I feel privileged to have witnessed this great horse in all his victories over the past three seasons, and I really hope that Frankel has a long and successful career at stud. Horses like Frankel come along once or twice in a lifetime and I am thankful that I was here to enjoy the exploits of this brilliant animal.
what a fantastic put together film of Frankel. well done. we must not compare todays horses and theirs a lot on both frankel and black caviar. They are both amazing in their own right and I am very much looking forward to them both. I was at newbury fo the lokinge and was just messmorised (if i spelt that right lo) for the rest of the day ..... awsome.
Frankel as the speed to win a July Cup/Golden Jubilee but the stamina to win a Guineas pulling his back teeth out the all way. Hes a remarkable horse...
Excelebration as put beyond all concievable doubt how great Frankel is by winning the Jacque Le Marois today beating 9 Gr1 winners including 8 horses who have won a Gr1 over a mile. If that form isn't solid enough to grant Frankel's reputation as the worlds best and one of the greatest of all time then I don't know what he needs to do to prove it! Glad for Excelebration, He deserved that and what a shrewd investment from Coolmore yet again...
Agree with all these words of praise in the clip.... but only after 2012. Great job by Sir Henry Cecil, much admired and missed
What a horse, a true hero of 2011 He is amazing.
Absolutely stunning - a fitting tribute to Frankel's fantastic season!
Frankel.............................Legend
Sir Henry Cecil..................Legend
Thank you Sir Henry.
What a horse, Im sure Black Caviar is a fine horse but if she ever tried to put it up to Frankel over a mile he'd leave her for dead, Shes a sprinter through and through. The way she won the 5f race the other day told us that. Pure power and speed, Frankel as all the same tools but as stamina to go with it. When he's winning all the mile and a quarter races next year he will stamp himself as the finest thoroughbred the world as seen since Sea Bird II...
Until the horseracing phenomenon called Frankel arrived on the scene, I would never have believed that there would be another horse, in my lifetime, that could have matched Brigadier Gerard as a miler, let alone outshone him. But that is exactly what Frankel has done. I have been involved in racing far too long for my head to be turned by "flash in the pan" performances, and for the first couple of races that is what I thought Frankel was. I now have absolutely no doubt that he is the best.
Gerard was far better than Frankel, get over it.
And he wasn't the best at all, he always ran against the same horses and was always about 10 to 1 on or something ridiculous like that
@@marktaylor6139 your comment is laughable pure comedy
15 individual Gr1 winners, 29 Gr1's in total have all fell at the feet of Frankel, 4 of his victims have once been rated within the 5 top rated horses in the world. Excelebration currently the second best miler in the world can't get within 5 lengths of him. Yes We all want him to step up in trip and prove himself over 10 furlongs but all in good time...
and this is just another to add to the list. Both great champions, Appreciate them for what they are and what they've achieved. Its as simple as that...
I don't profess to know a whole hell of a lot. But one thing I do know is that in his 40+ years as a trainer, Sir Henry Cecil has trained some incredible horses, and in his 40+ years as an owner, Prince Khalid Abdullah has owned some incredible horses. When both say that Frankel is the best they've ever trained, owned, or seen, you can't just summarily dismiss that as hype.
Are you joking? Frankel just keeps getting better and better and better. He was 0.69 secs outside the track record there on good to soft ground going away from the best milers in Europe. Hes unbelievable
''awwwwwhhhhhh this a brilliant horse'' Love that bit of commentary when he pulled away from Canford Cliffs, who was awesome in his own right!
You have to remember that Cecil is almost revered in UK racing. People want Sir Henry to win and want him to have a champion. That is part of the adulation of Frankel who is also of course the winner of 10 from 10 including 6 G1s with one of the greatest ever classic performances at Newmarket.
Our heartfelt thanks to Harry Herbert and Cartier Racing Awards for providing this sensational film.
Great film really enjoyed it.... superb summer coming up with Frankel doing his stuff.... BC coming over for Ascot and camelot going for the illusive TC... exciting times...
SIR HENRY CECIL, BRILLIANT TRAINER, INTEGRITY AND A HUMBLE MAN.THANK YOU.
Yep, you sure did rule us for centuries - from 1788 to 1901 ! The GRAND total of 113 years. I bet that makes you so proud.....
Sure does
@@davemarsh65 small things for small minds
I think it's really hard to compare the all-time greats across generations. But in my 30+ years of following this sport Frankel is without a doubt one of the greatest horses I've seen in my lifetime. I'm not sure I can remember another horse who's first big initial burst of speed left fields so helpless and settled the race as quickly as Frankel's initial burst of speed did. Whether you think Frankel's the greatest ever or not, it's not likely we'll see another horse of his caliber for 30 years.
Hope all you Aussie clowns just saw that from Frankel in the Queen Anne. Annihilated a top class field by 11 lengths just outside the course record on good to soft ground. He is the true superstar in the world. He is unbelievable...
You are so right he is the best in the world
2012 WAS ALSO ALL ABOUT THE SAME HORSE
I love the portentous music. I love the horse. Thanks for your post...
iv seen frankel lots of times when i go see my grandpa he is such an amazing horse when you see him on the heath
Gorgeous horse, runs like a God and with a stride to do die for. Will miss him hugely when he goes
He’s still going
Truth is, both Frankel and Black Caviar are incredible horses and I as much as anyone would love to see them race each other. Forget anyone's personal opinion on either horse or the virtual racing results, the real proof will only be determined on the paddock . Maybe the owners of Frankel should bring the horse to Australia and have a go.
Not only that, Excelebration was racing left handed for the first time in his life having travelled 10,000 miles to race on a rock hard surface having only 13 days previous raced on bottomless ground at Ascot. To only go 2 lengths down after that is some performance. Would Wise Dan have beat Excelebration in Europe so easily or in the QE2 the race before the Breeders Cup Mile? Who knows but Wise Dan only beating Excelebration by 2 lengths just further enhances how good Frankel was...
Frankel signs his own merchandise, how fuckin cool is that. Love you Frankel ! Get well Sir Henry.
wonderful tribute..
Si Henry the legendary man
Secretariat lost at multiple distances too.
Black Caviar is one of my favourite horses but put her up against Frankel & she aint got a hope in hell. Frankel is that damn good!! The best most of us will ever see!
Correct and moonlight cloud only lost to caviar in a photo at ascot
@@keithwilliams2077 what are you talking about ? Black Caviar tore 2 muscles that day and STILL won, beating that year's French Horse of the Year. Even the UK's very own Euro biased Timeform rated that performance as the 3rd worst of her career so let that sink in.......she put up the 3rd WORST performance of her career and that was still good enough to win Royal Ascot's premier sprint race, beating that year's French Horse of the Year !! Had she ran to her true form she's have won in a canter by 6 lengths being eased down the last 100m. Soul was getting beaten easily by Star Witness (placed in both Kings Stand & Diamond Jubilee the next year - should have won the Kings Stand after blowing the start) at level weights and the start prior to Star Witness leaving for the UK Black Caviar destroyed him 8 lengths giving the colt 11lbs (5kg) yet there was Soul finishing on Black Caviar's heels at Ascot. Soul needed to find 5 lengths to be competitive with Star Witness what did he need to find to be competitive with Black Caviar if Star Witness was getting beaten 8 lengths by the wonder mare carrying 11lbs less ? 15 lengths ? 18 lengths ? So you either believe Soul miraculously found 15 lengths as soon as he hopped of the plane in the UK or you believe Black Caviar ran way below her best due to the injuries she sustained. I ask you which is the more likely scenario ? It's pretty obvious isn't it ?
Correct.best ive seen in 47 years
@@leedelaney70 an very average horse has won your big race last 2 year addeyaab.
English and especially irish horses are usually better than aussies even french to
Wavepattern.. why has now one come from abroad and challenged him?? Why should HE travel?? Unbeatable Thankyou..
@regginald81 @MrDraven37 exactly the point! he beat canford cliffs by 5+ lengths after being within a length of him at the furlong and a half point, the race was ran completely differently to the guineas so the 2 cannot even be slightly compared. canford cliffs would not have got near him even if he was in the guineas.
More and more Aussies infecting the Frankel pages. Jesus, Just appreciate the fact that you've got an horse anywhere near the top 3 rated horses in the world because lets be honest its a rare occurance...
Horse of a Lifetime I'm lucky to of seen him
Frankel is hugely impressive, there is no taking away that at all, and for me he does deserve to be, at this time, the highest rated horse in the world.
For me that is on his 2000 guineas run though, I still find that the most impressive.
Far as BC taking him on, I just don't really see that happening at all. She's a sprinter, he's a miler. If there was a higher rated horse at a mile and a half, or 2 mile, would you expect Frankel to them on when you don't know if he can run the distance?
International Federation of Horseracing Authorities, World Thoroughbred Rankings Period : 1 December 2011 to 28 May 2012.
1st Frankel(GB) rating 138,
2nd Black Caviar(Aus) rating 130
Its tough on BC to be around at the same time as Frankel, but get over it - its not even close
(and its going to get worse for you!)
Just have a look at the IFHA's ratings. These ratings are set on a worldwide scale by handicappers throughout the world.
1. Frankel 140
2. Cirrus Des Aigles 130
3. Excelebration 130
4. Orfevre 127
5. Wise Dan 127
Just look at whos number 2 and 3. Both beaten out of sight by Frankel. Chin up
Will be interesting to see whether Frankel comes back to the pack a bit at 4yo (ala Workforce). Hopefully he remains just as dominant because if he isn't it may mean we see less champion 3yo race on. I commend connections for continuing to race him.
What a great video, thanks
Best 2 horses i have ever seen live frankel and goldikova.also seen cirus de aigles win champion stakes.and gallileo win derby
I can't think of another sprinter in the world that she needs to beat to prove shes the best sprinter? Yes she's come to Royal Ascot and as been took out of her comfort zone but so have alot of Aussie sprinters down the years, There isn't anything in this field that should trouble her. Both Peter Moody and Henry Cecil have continued to do right by there horses, Everyone slates Frankels record but if you look through his form its absolutely rock solid..
Its funny the injury to Canford Cliffs came a week after the Sussex and not immediately, I don't think He was ever injured. Another ploy by the Coolmore team, He was comfortably dispatched by Frankel. As for Sea The Stars how can you compare him and Frankel one is a truly outstanding middle distance runner capable of winning at a mile, Another is a truly outstanding miler only being given the chance to step beyond 8 furlongs this year...
quite Frankel-ey (sorry) an amazing animal. I love the Simon Holt commentary on the Sussex when he (and the world) realises just how good he really is. I can't wait until the flat season
@MrDraven37 when they have probably not even seen all his races. I can't really find a race where it has really been set up for him to post a fast time. I think though you will see this this year as there will be a few in the middle distance rank that will try and test his stamina and set the strong early pace that i think he needs to show what he really can do.
frankel amazing. Ever i have seen like u...........
Saying he's dodging 12f is a bit like saying BC has dodged every big 10f race in Australia during her career so far mate
Totally agree mate. I'm a huge Frankel fan but I'll admit it's not fair to expect BC to take him on at a mile, presumably in England. The cards would be stacked so much in his favour, she would have no chance. Truth is, it just isn't going to happen unless Moody takes one hell of a punt.
It would have to be over a mile for a challenge though. We both know our sprinters are naff.
i want a mile and a halfer champ
The international racing community are unanimous in their opinion of his global standing, for instance
International Federation of Horseracing Authorities, World Thoroughbred Rankings Period : 1 December 2011 to 28 May 2012.
1st Frankel (GB) rating 138 ... the rest - nowhere
is the best and will always be considered it, end ov
Frankels sectionals on courses more undulating than anything Black Caviar as ever seen aren't a million miles away, Seeing as though shes a sprinter her sectionals should be that much better but in the Guineas Frankel was running sub 11 furlongs for the first 4 furlongs and Newmarket - Rowley Mile is probably the stiffest mile straight in the world. It was a freakish performance
This horse could have been retired by now but the fact Khalid Abdullah as kept him in training shows you want a sporting man he is, If his pedigree is anything to go by the step up in trip can only bring about improvement and I cannot see a horse in the world today that would trouble Frankel over a mile or for that matter a mile and a quarter. The race for Black Caviar and Frankel would be 7 furlongs and I would love to have witnessed such a race. Generations are always robbed of big races...
frankel v caviar is the race everyone wants to see.distance is irrelevant,champions dont need excuses.
the reason we dont have big numbers traveling internationally here in america is because most of our horses wouldnt be able to race anywhere else because of all the banned substances in other countries that we give our horses.tvg a few months back had a big piece on that reason.simon bray was talking about when they would buy yearlings and 2 year olds here then bring them back to europe how a month later the horses would lose so much size because they werent on steroids.
Lee you make good points. However, with regards to dodging the derby, it was a good move, earlier on in the 3 year old season he was very excitable and temperamental, he would have spend most of the derby fighting Tom trying who would be trying to get him to settle, using petrol and probably falling flat on his face on the home stretch. He's settled more now and should get 10f and we'd all hope 12 (being out of Galileo) but 12 doesn't seem to be getting mentioned much. So maybe it is a bit far.
To be fair, timeform rates Australian horses higher than any other rating system. The WTA which isn't Eurobiased slants even more in the European direction. Timeform and all handicapping/rating systems have your sprinters as the best. But the majority of the top horses come from Europe as rated by all organisations. do you not think that it's possible, with all this info in mind. That Euroracing is of a higher standard at the minute? Experts are in a better position to call rather than me or you
Love This Horse!
And I agree She is a Champion and she would be here too. But In the Same Breath so would Frankel. Having experienced the horses in our own countries we are going to think ours are stronger going off opinion and some facts we take ourselves to prove our points. Numbers don't mean better at the top. It's the breeding operations in place that count. The people who come out with the ratings are in the best position to show us who is the best, the research, particularly on top horses is unbelievable.
You can mention any other great horses! But this is the present n with such much depression about hes come at a time when people need a lift n to celebrate seein something special.
I wouldn't mind Frankel getting beaten so longs as they have a go with him. Unbeaten runs are meaningless unless you've gone out of your comfort zone. I'd love to see him in the Arc. But I'd love to see BC in the Sussex too whether Frankel races or not. Because I can guarantee you that would be the stiffest test she will come across. So long as you get the likes of Excelebration running. Saturday 4 of the to =7 will go head to head. It's good for racing.
I think it's ridiculous comparing the two horses, one is a sprinter and one is a stayer.
@liverpool5917 exactly which is basically what happened to canford cliffs, never been put under that sort of pressure, when he does he drifts markedly left like in his greenham 2nd place few years back.
I am so tempted to bet a large amount on Frankel for his first race this year. I'm scared though, I bet he'd have his first bad day ever.
yea i realise that but why not it would be HUGE and plus BC ran 1400 in the CF Orr thats close enough to a mile and frankel always hits his peak with a couple hundred to run
I completely agree with you to an extent. Our prize money is pitiful and only serves to maintain the status quo amongst the large breeding operations and the smaller operations find it very difficult to make a living. Then you have all the bookmakers making millions and then moving their operations offshore so they don't have to pay tak to our government, they are the ones who should be increasing the prize money in the game over here as they are the ones getting the most out of the sport.
Yeah Flemington where we get over 400,000 attending for the 4 days of the world famous Flemington Spring Carnival. Just ask Europe's major trainers as they are here every year trying to get a slice of a decent cheque !!! Even the British Racing Authorities come over to see how its done. Melb Cup $6.5 million, Cox Plate $3 million, Caulfield Cup $3 million & thats just in a 3 week period lol lol
@sp319 i didnt actually say 'one paced' i said ive never seen Black Caviar firmly off the bridle because majority of her races have been won at a canter or without too much pressure on her, racing over a well run/undulating track mile she couldnt cope with frankel.
@joemynes Also what's to say Black Caviar has any more off the bridle, she might be one paced, never been off the bridle so who can say she isn't, once Frankel puts it to her she might not find anymore....
All good mate. And we will never see Frankel in Aus, there is no way they would ever do that, and while I think that it is funny how they always expect Australian horses to travel over to the UK to 'prove' themselves, they only ever send their 2 milers to Australia. They would be risking too much with Frankel to send him abroad. If they took a go at the Arc with him, and he won, then hate to say it but I would have to really think he is the best ever.
You make a good point. But it's quality rather than quantity that counts. Your horses generally enjoy the most success in sprints but our sprinters aren't very highly rated either and to be honest I can't really think of an Aussie horse from the top of my head that has won top middle distance races in Europe. I know SYT won in Ireland against pretty poor fields , but in England I think Timeform got him bang on. What are your views of the WTR's mate? Because they show an even bigger gap.
Reminuscent wins of the Great RIBOT!!~ Margins even...
No Breeders Cup? Us Americans would love to see him in person. Surely he can win the $2 Million BC Mile with ease. The only American that may give him a race is WISE DAN.
@MrDraven37 very naive. If you had watched the 2000 guineas you would realise that both these horse tried to go with Frankel in that race and then folded . The head on shot tells it all, he is cruising along in the first 5f at sprinters pace and they are having to get after their mounts just to stay in touch with him.
Look at Tulloch for example (I wont go back as far as Phar Lap)...he won 11 Grp1's & 14 from 16 in his 3yo year alone incl 3 Derbys & a Caulfield Cup where he broke the world record for a mile 1/2 on turf. His next start in the Victoria Derby his win was outstanding beating Prince Darius by 8 lengths. Prince Darius then ran in the Melbourne Cup & was beaten a head. Tulloch missed his 4yo & most of his 5yo year but still came back & won a Cox Plate, 2x QE Stks, Mackinnon Stks etc @ Grp1 level
Just 2 points there kopking; firstly your view that Secretariat is the greatest of all time is your opinion. To say it is clear is inaccurate, especially taking into account his 5 defeats. Frankel has not even been pushed yet, we don't know how good he actually could be. He hasn't just beaten his opposition, he has destroyed it time and again. He could be ANYTHING. Time will tell us where he finally stands but he has earned the right to be mentioned alongside any horse.
Oh I agree that the majority of people from the UK think their horses are the best, and they also think that they have the best races as well, though some at least admit that the French have the best race in the world with the Arc. My point was that I respect Frankel and think he is hugely impressive, particularly his last win. I think to be considered best ever, he needs to race somewhere else other than the UK. By the way mate, I'm an Aussie as well, love BC, but also admire Frankel.
Would have been great to watch Frankel and Dubai Millenium go head to head
Both superstars
If you really knew racing.. in this current age where horses are prepared and trained for a certain distance.. sprinter, miler, stayer.. you would never say that distance is irrelevant...
The racing world has changed, we are not in the era where you saw a horse like Kingston Town was able to win at 1200m and stretch out and win the Sydney Cup at 3200m (2 miles). It just doesn't work like that anymore, get used to it.
Frankel is a miler. He's won G!'s at a mile and 7furlongs. If all goes to plan he will have won G1's at 10f by the end of the season. Meaning if all goes to plan he'll have won at a sprint distance a mile and a middle distance. Yes there are differences in % there but the point of fact is its still a 800m difference between 1200 (her optimal) and 2000 as there is 1600 (his optimal) and 2400. You've just used % to twist the argument in her favor knowing I mean actual variance in distances.
for me, the best horse in the world is the Kingman, never saw a final sprint like this horse is very strong and time will give me reason!
He was great but Frankel the best
His 2000 guineas win over a mile looked like the end of a 4 mile chase for the rest. Strung them out all over Cambridge.
@MrDraven37 mate that is just an example of what he does to horses and they are quality horses, just no where near the quality of Frankel. CC didn't lose by that much because that race was run in a different manner. Why do you think no horses have tried to set a fast early pace in Frankel's races? What would happen if BC ran her final 3f sectionals at the start of her race?
When Frankel has lost as many times as Secretariat, we'll talk. In fact, if Frankel even loses for the first time...
I'd argue that Excelebration to be fair to him is a top quality horse, who had a bad day. I fear the Queen Anne may have broken him and he'll never be the same again. I honestly think the only other real opposition is CDA and SYT. I know Atlantic Jewel would also be good to see but we all know what happened to BC and what the rigours of travel can do. I certainly wouldn't put my horse though what she had to.
When Queally unleashed Frankel, Richard Hughes and Canford Cliffs were left for dead. Canford Cliffs was retired because of the investment Coolmore had made in him. They knew two defeats at the hands of a potential Juddmonte stallion wasn't good news for them, Theres noway Canford Cliffs was ever going to turn the tables on Frankel and he was swiftly scuttled on to stud to preserve his reputation...
Yep I wish the owner would've realized that Frankel needed to go out, not for money but to create bigger audience for this sport.. that being said I think Frankel proved on various situations across country on different tracks and goings, left/right-handed tracks, sharp/gallop tracks, etc, Also its easy to forget that he beat numerous adversaries that won international trophies like Breeders Cup in St Nicholas Abbey, etc
@leedelaney70 yes i do remember back in 2009 when scenic blast won over 5f, the argument i was making is over a mile she wouldnt get close to frankel, i do hope she comes over and wins the 5/6f races here at royal ascot, but over a mile it wouldn't be a contest.
Look at the timeform, they know more than me and you! They seem to back up my opinion that BC races donkeys and destroys them whereas Frankels race thoroughbred racehorses at the top of their game and destroys them. He can win from the front, win being held up ... He's so versatile! His pace is matched by BC but its his cruising speed that is so high that can be held for much longer than BC!
Utter bullshit,she came there and beat your best,did he ever truly meet the best? Like they say it was a marketing ploy in selected fields,needed a pacemaker in 4 horsefields wtf?overrated
@@russe19642 you are just laughable pure comedian you are you talk utter bullshit
@@davemarsh65 truth always hurts hey,overrated as Frankel getting unbelievable ratings against horses that wouldn't rate.Champion UK 3yo yeh I agree you can't deny that,but greatest racehorse ever? Now that's a big call without racing the worlds best,at least enable and a few of your others did and I'd rate them miles ahead of him especially sea the stars
@@russe19642
You’d rate Enable miles ahead of Frankel????
@@elgransenor1472 as a follower of horseracing, yes. Be nothing better being an owner to watch and travel around the world watching her. I see farkalls filly won here,Hungry heart,there's a couple here but she seems to be the best at the moment. There's heaps of canford cliffs offspring running as well. Addybb got beat by very elegent but I don't think she will next time,he seems to lose his first up and seemed to needed the run.Eduardo will win again, I was on him and I think you'll see him over there soon he's super quick and will be our best sprinter for a while I think
Okay. Thanks for the advice.
He wins by 11 lengths so people refuse to put it down to Frankel brilliance and immediately question the other horses? He beat Nathienel who subsequently beat Workforce, Sir Nicolas' Abbey, Rewilding. He destroyed Canford Cliffs by 5l in GG who beat Goldikova and I doubt even you can question her ability. Your argument is flawed, infact its offensive.
Shes 6 now, When as she ever been to Dubai or America or England? Shes raced continually in her comfort zone and against clearly inferior horses to preserve her record. Until she faces something of the highest quality I will always doubt her 'true' ability
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Those exact same comments now apply to another Aussie champion!
Your all theories on Black Caviar beating Frankel over a mile is pure madness, She wouldn't get a mile in her horse box in Europe hence the reason for swerving the Sussex Stakes if connections really thought she had a chance over a mile she'd be heading for the Sussex Stakes. Instead shes heading back home to beat another bunch of no hopers to prove what exactly? Hasn't she proved herself continually back in Australia and for that matter in the middle east?
I'm not about to enter the "Who's the best ever" argument, but it pains me to hear that people think Frankel's opposition has been crap. In his first race he beat Nathaniel, who went on to win the King George at Ascot beating Derby and Arc winner Workforce. Canford Cliffs was a brilliant horse who beat 3 time breeders cup winner Goldikova comfortably, but he was murdered by Frankel. July cup winner Dream Ahead proved no match for Frankel. There are countless others. Frankel is a superstar.
Better than Frankel on what basis exactly? How have you come to that judgement? If you look at both Black Caviar and Frankels best rivals on the track it would be Haylist and Excelebration both rated by the international handicapper at 126. Frankel as beaten Excelebration continually by either 4 or 5 lengths. The most Black Caviar as ever beat Hay List is 3 1/4 lengths and on there last couple of meetings Hay List as continually closed the gap... So tell Me, How is she better?
Il give him a chance...ideally id love to see him race Camelot over a mile and 2 and see what both are made of
As far as I can see every other horse is in the same boat? They can all use the pacemaker too? If they don't have the class to maintain the pace then it's tough shit .