the only time I see 1.00+ per mile here in Dallas is when it is a short trip and the fair is the minimum 3.46, the problem is time in traffic and rider taking 5+ minutes to showup
Yes…same here. I drive in Dallas as well and if there’s not a surge then they pay less than $.80mi and sometimes less than $.65mi. My acceptance rate is less than 10%. I’ve noticed on airport trips they know the ones that are top tippers and they subtract the percentage that they usually would tip from the upfront fare. I don’t even drive as much as I once did anymore. The area is oversaturated with drivers that will accept ANY ride.
@@DTownDesigns 100% agree on the airport tipping deduction...I am now torn between which is worse....stinky by pot or stinky by indian food. Also, what is with the terrorist convention all day everyday at the DFW rideshare lot...someone needs to call homeland security
I get it with the stinky food. I work only good neighborhoods so I almost never get the pot. I work Dallas and I work the Airport. I don't think it's fair to judge a ethnicity as possible terrorists. As a person of color, my terrorist could be a white male. But I tried to love everyone and stay away from shares although I've had some profitable share rides but the concern that I have is the pickup doesn't tell me where that ride is going to go so if I accidentally take a share ride to the airport from Dallas I don't get the benefit of catching a ride at the airport because I have a Rider going elsewhere which in one case was Fort Worth Texas, and in the other case to a neighborhood where a Uber driver was recently shot. I try to put my head down and make $300 plus and it's few hours as possible my acceptance rate is about 18%
I'm dash in Arlington. I have been getting a lot of those orders for the past week, and I'm on the large order program. Yesterday, I worked in the Mansfield zone and made $30 in one hour.
Mine is 22% right now on Uber and 35% on Lyft in Fort Myers Florida. I’m right there with you. I sent them nasty messages on their surveys that we get all the time.
Exactly these people who complain think they are hurting uber when they only hurting themselves. Uber is saturated with drivers. You are all replaceable
Accepting more money losing trips doesn't make any sense at all. When there is demand, they will send the request to you, regardless of your acceptance rate.
Good job learning. It isn't upfront fares that's causing the reduction. It's you learning what a profitable ride is and not being forced to accept rides to maintain your status that is causing the reduction. I went from $29 an hour before upfront to $47 an hour after. My acceptance rate is 4% Uber and 1% Lyft. I'm in Austin so we have standard and advantage modes which means I do not get routed any work when it's slow. I used to average 38 rides a night for 2 years until standard advantage. Then I went to 41 total completed rides from July 15 to September 5. Now that it's busy again I'm getting work again and now Uber is losing money on the majority of the rides I do for payback.
Im glad i found this video. Man it's tough out there. Im in Pittsburgh and im at 11% right now. I was a high 90's guy but im not taking the garbage trips. I want to do video to show the trips im turning down. For example Pickup: 23 mins/14.9 miles - Destination: 23 min/15.7 miles Pay: $23.03 Thats insane to me. Why would a passenger want to wait this long to get picked up? But the pay is even more crazy. 46 minutes and 30.6 miles for $23 might look good to newbies but thats not close to what we should be getting for trip like this. Especially in Pittsburgh... I've been getting alot of these type of offers and it's coming at a ridiculous pace. I can literally turn down 10 or more trips in 45 second span. I even got a bad report because a passenger said I was too distracted by my phone. Well of course I'm going to be distracted when Uber is slamming 30 trip requests during a 10 min ride.... Plus i have to pay attention to the directions too... It's really weird to me because I feel like im the only driver in the city 😂😂😂 like wtf.
Thanks for posting this, because this is so true. I live here in South Florida and I have been driving for Lyft 6.5 years and I’m the same way as You…why should I drive 10 minutes away (6-8 miles) to pick someone up (without pay), to drive them 10 minutes (8 miles) to their drop off location for $5….make it make sense. Needless to say that I’m not in the “GOLD” status anymore because of my acceptance rate has dropped tremendously over the past few months. (I’m still a 5Star driver but they don’t care about that). YES I’d like to pick these passengers up, but not for what I’m getting paid. I recently got my weekly Driver Feedback and I’m still at 5 Stars, and they have the audacity to tell me that I kept 76% of my earnings…immediately contacted Lyft and said (Not when you took from one of my long drives exactly 50% of my pay)..of course they said they’d look into it, never heard back from anyone. THANKS for posting this. From your newly subscribed subscriber.
My Uber acceptance rate is 4%. I can show screen shot after screen shot of the most ridiculous offers, so many $2-3 including the expected tip for 20-45 minutes! What the heck? If that includes the expected tip, what was the actual fair, a penny a mile??? The other day I accepted one Uber offer all day and rejected over 60 of them.
@chelo2626ify I had a low acceptance rate and I would awful rides and they would take me offline without me knowing. I keep my acceptance rate above 86% and now I make good money. Sometimes a bad ride leads to a good ride. Your only punishing yourself not uber. Uber isn't short or drivers in this economy. Your replaceable
Currently my acceptance rate with Uber is 73%. It has been as low as 68%. With Lyft, it is 92% only because they still offer bonuses and promotions in my market.Everything that you said overall is spot on!
People, everything comes down to the flooding of the market with labor. Doesn't matter what industry: software, nursing, construction, meatpacking, rideshare, etc.. The goal of capital/management in this economy is to flood the market with labor, crushing wages. And they get all the help they need with help from the politicians of both parties. All the bogus stories of "crops rotting in the fields", "jobs that Americans don't want..." "Americans not motivated enough to handle STEM fields..." All lies. And you have to understand and accept that the biggest factor driving down wages is mass immigration. Oh, know, don't go there. That's raciss. Well, if you want to understand the problem and find a way to a solution you must accept the truth.
100% correct. This immigration crisis isn't an accident. They are importing voters and cheap labor. The uni party doesn't care. Republican and Democrat are just labels they can change at will based on the voting tendencies of the people they import.
They also need to drop this driver rating bs where they track how we handle our phones, speed, or harsh breaking. Their speed limits are off on many roads, they don’t know the reason behind harsh breaking, and how I handle my phone in my car is none of their business as I am not their employee. What gives them these rights to tell me how to do my job…that infringes on the contractor/contractee relationship
Its interesting i started out eith uber and then lyft , uber gave me a lot of business at first, and i like how lyft asks you for a goal of how much you want to earn . Its switched now im doing 3 times business with lyft, they pay you more than uber it seems
Allow them to keep it up. No one will be driving. They are pushing the drivers away. That will be less money for them. Uber is going to feel it in their pockets
Turn OFF (or put into flight mode) data BEFORE tapping to accept job. Then wait for error message to appear and tap it then turn data back on (or flight mode off). AR takes much less of a beating by doing this. It won't increase your AR but does help stop it dropping so fast
Mine bounces between 10 and 11 percent and it seems to work. I am only now rejecting fares that are lower than 4.75 star rating and that is working out for the better, tho I got tricked the other night and got a 5 star that must of been a new account and I almost cancelled the fare half way through, they got a 1 star so hopefully that will drag them down to below 4 stars.
@@dznutz3598 it's been 4 months since I driven for Uber and Lyft. Mostly because I'm already working a lot overtime at my job. So,I didn't have the need to go out and drive. Especially since a lot of rides sent to me are really low paying offers and there aren't many surges to get me to go out. Feels like it's not worth my time driving anymore.
I literally just had to pull over to type this out to everyone… I just got a Lyft rider request to pickup 10 miles away to then drive them 36 miles to Miami Airport (Estimated 26 minutes) for only $22… Make it make sense.🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ Of course I didn’t “accept” the ride. This has got to stop with the lowballing us Drivers on these rides share platforms. Thanks for posting this video.
Uber destroying their business? I don't think you've looked at their financials. The new standard advantage is a game changer for them. They're going to make so much money when they roll that out worldwide. Now how to take advantage of people through the use of immigrants. Uber is doing a masterclass on that. It should really be taught in schools based on how much slave labor Uber is able to gain from these immigrants.
In my market, they don't upfront pricing, just time and distance to the pick up. They also finally eliminated the quest bonus, which was fine with me because I was about 70 miles from that area. I definitely agree that Uber can be a little more generous in sharing the pie.
I am 100% agree with you I have been on the Uber platform 10 years this past two or three years Uber's really suck I got online for 5 hours later I am going home with 29 dollars and that's five trips
My AR is 32% and cancellation rate is 8%. Before upfront fares I rarely declined or cancelled a ride because with time and distance rates I can use quick math to calculate whether or not a trip is worth it. Now its a guessing game with upfront prices. I will take only rides that give me $1.20 or more per mile, but I noticed they are fleecing the riders more too. A short 3 mile trip for a rider can be over $20 here, but the driver only gets $8-11 upfront.
@@PierreMcKenzie-o7v you realize robots are coming to take your job. It's never gonna be like it was. Robots are picking up customers now. They need you less and less everyday. Accept it for what it is or quit
I noticed that too @PierreMcKenzie-o7v! I haven't had a rating since like last year. I don't even know if my customers can rate me or not. It's a frickin mess that needs to be fixed!
I live in Baltimore and typically drive in that market, but we have reciprocity with Washington, DC and last week I was staying there and drove there full time. My acceptance rate went from 10-12% in Baltimore down to 4-7% in DC. I couldn't believe how low many of the fares were during the day, especially. I could never afford to drive my car for less than minimum wage AND traffic really screwed me on a number of days where rides may have been good upfront but when the trip time doubled the adjustment Uber or Lyft made me operate at a loss.
Yea they expect u to drive 15 mins to take someone 8 mins away for like 8 bux😡 I was 68 now I'm 72, butttt I rarely log on and when I do I look for high surge pay
My rating seldom gets to 20% and spends most of its life in the single digits. I focus exclusively on my hourly rate being a minimum of $30 an hour, meaning I won’t except a ride that doesn’t yield at least 50 cents a minute for ALL miles driven. I don’t do eats or connect and finding it more & more difficult to meet my minimum requirements.
What is really disgusting in Boston is that Uber takes over 50% in certain neighborhoods that are heavy Uber users. They charge these customers more and take more. discrimination is very disturbing.
Yes well said we are experiencing this in the east coast n have resulted in to selective picking rides .yes we need to demand better .my acceptance rate as n uber driver have gone down significantly
I have been driving full time for Lyft and Uber for 8 years in Austin Texas and I am very happy. I work 50 to 60 hours a week and usually make between $900 and $1100 a week.
Then you are insane because that's a thousand miles a week subtracted from the value of your car after you only made $16 an hour 👍🤡 if someone told you that was going to happen to you at your 9 to 5:00 you would say they were retarded, but here you are bragging about it.
Those raw numbers are horrible. Thats maximum 22/hr before costs. How many miles do you drive a week and how much gas money do you spend? You may want to consider getting an hourly job.
I opt for looking at $ per minute avoid or be careful if a long ride (50 mi or greater) looks appealing. I opt for those ~$12 rides that are ~ 6miles and can do in less than 10 min. This ensures I get $1 per minute ($60 per ACTIVE hour). I often get $80 or $120 or more per ACTIVE hour on a trip...cus I know this can and will boil down to $40 to $50 per hr in the end and $25 to $35 online hour and living in the CA bay area this barely does it. I drive an electric car so insurance and payment is higher but I save on gas... So yes I average ~ $40 to $48 per active hour but in the end it's sorta like having a $25 to $35/hr job. Not bad but not great either because of the area and bcus you must work when it's busy so that means doing small shifts 3 to 6 hrs each twice a day. That's not bad but not great either. I cherry pick and $1300 to $1800 per week depending how much I work and that is not good to the cost of living in NOR CAL but it could be worse. I think I'll look for a job with 401k insurance etc and do this part time. Then maybe I can save some dough!!
Thank you Lord Jesus for the gift of life and blessings to me and my family $14,120.47 weekly profit Our lord Jesus has lifted my Life am no longer a truck driver!!!🙏❤❤❤
In Massachusetts, we get a minimum of 32.50/active hour (pickip+delivery). I don't care about long pickups anymore. The metric to pay attention to is active hours/online hours. It's actually worse than that as destination filters no longer work so a lot of off line driving home (whereas in the past I would normally realize half the time making money on a return). It's like they don't want drivers
in New Jersey, we get paid based on time and miles and I assure you it sucks.! It’s penny on the dollar…literally. Here’s an example of one of my trips…. Your earnings Fare $13.51 Base $0.87 Distance 11.94 mile × $0.66/mile (rounding applied) $7.88 Time 20.92 minute × $0.17/minute (rounding applied) $3.56 Wait Time at Pickup 4.62 min × $0.26/min (rounding applied) $1.20 Tip $8.00 Your earnings $21.51 Expenses -$0.29 Trip balance
Upfront fare has just gone down here in Atlanta by an additional 10%. It’s awful. The more you work the less you make.Uber collects $35 from a rider and driver gets $12.95 driving 26 miles, 33 minutes at highway speed.
I learn a lot by watching you guys. And I have been laughing at some of the request I've been getting. I live in MA, and I only drive in the South Shore of Boston. I know it's crazy, but I don't take request into the city that much; they don't really make it worth my wild. I never take airport request anymore because it's not worth it to me with the traffic. I laugh how one ride to the airport, which would maybe 15 min to pick up the rider and over 30-40 min in traffic to the city can only cost maybe $17-$20 in rush hour, I would not take that request, then the next request would give say close to $25 not going towards the city, pick up the person takes 5-10 & taking then to their destination only takes 15 min. And I think it's going away from the city, and no one wants to go that way, why it may would cost more. I don't get it.
Ok so your acceptance rate is not important? Today was my first day out and mine is at like 34% for uber and 26% on door dash so I just started ignoring them vs declining, seems like a good work around?
I agree upfront pricing needs to go away. We need to be paid for our time and distance. My acceptance rate is at 74 percent, and the only reason it not lower is that I drive only during turbo hours on lyft. Besides that, my city is unbearable to drive on base fares.
25% or less for me with both Uber and Lyft. Won’t take anything under a dollar a mile or puts me in heavy traffic where the compensation for time is minimal or non existent with both apps.
here in the rio grande valley in south texas for Uber, there's no such thing as up front fares. the only thing we see is the trip time AFTER PICK UP!!! we can't see if the pick up is 1 mile or 10 miles from our current location. we don't know how much we're getting paid until after we've completed the trip. as for Lyft, the trips are complete garbage. Lyft has reduced dates for trips. for example, a trip from harlingen international airport to the international bridge in Brownsville is to pay $25-$26 now those same trips pay $17-$18. my acceptance rate for Lyft is 3% and I'm only accepting 3-4 rides a week.
another issue I'm having with Uber is that they're not giving me credit for the exclusive (non trip radar) trips. as of 9/18/24, the number of accepted rides out of 200 was 169. over the last 10 days, i accepted 12 exclusive trips yet Uber is saying i haven't accepted any so as of 9/28, I'm still showing that I've only accepted 169 out of 200. btw, i haven't declined any trips. as mentioned, we don't have up front fares so if our ar isn't 85%, we're literally flying blind
the tier standard pays you less and you are not eligible first in line according to gps .other drivers who have a better acceptance rate will receive the ping with more pay even though you are closest to the customer.
I can't say what the rate should be (above my pay and think grade) but i believe with all my heart and mind drivers should be paid every mile/time from accepting the ride, going to the rider and then to the destination. A driver would not get pickup pay till he enters (unless he is within that zone already which surrounds the city.) If he is in the city zone and goes a long way out side the zone to pickup, they still qualify for pickup and the trip pay. Trips would need to be completed or within a close distance at riders request to get the entire pay (unless rider canceled or shorten trip, if so drivers still get total pay. Drivers would be required on their part to be 1. In the city zone confines. And 2. Complete the whole trip. If driver cancels or stops trip then pickup pay would become disqualified regardless of the reason. The last rule would prevent drivers from going to get them and just canceling to get pickup pay. Wait pay needs to go higher as well.
I would really like if you broke down the difference between what Minneapolis Minnesota did for you to keep Uber in your city. Compared to the way it was prior under the old pay scale system. I would love to hear did you benefit or was this a bust?
28% = Rookie. Rate Card is way better if you have a proper Rate Card because upfront fares is a Race to the Bottom and bottom feeders will take the fare.
I'm still on rate card but I don't accept anything farther than 7 minutes / 2 mi unless it gets over 23 minutes and 12 mi so I can make money on the way there by driving slow up front, and only if the highway portion is the last half. I think my AR is probably like 10% you can make 2 to $3 a mile delivering for Walmart, if you don't mind having tips stolen from job combination.
For all novel reasons, no one considers there are multiple types of drivers for different types of deliveries, whether it's people or packages (food, prescriptions, groceries, etc.) to match what the driver declares they're delivering. I'm on a bicycle, meaning my range is limited by time and speed. I can only accept what I can reach and do over a certain amount of time. Basically, I can make rates for what a car can drive ($0.66/mile), maybe more, because I can only ride for 1-2 miles at a time each way. My earnings are what drivers wouldn't, couldn't ever accept hence, low acceptance rates for them, higher for me, means those types of deliveries will increase for couriers for me. It will take years, I guess, for it to self-sort, but there was a time I was making 8-10 deliveries per day, averaging $45-$60 daily, now I'm competing with scooters for the same fare...for now.
Don’t you wait longer for rides? And at what point can your driver account be deactivated for declining rides?
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My AR is 31%. I look at time and $$, don't care about distance. I want so much per minute, I add up the total time trip....time to pick-up then time to drop off, if it doesn't equate to so much per minute then I don't take the trip.
I've dropped from 95% (2017 thru 2023). I am floating 45-50% all of 2024. I have stretches where I refuse 15 consecutive requests. Yep, quest elimination is my main reason as quest allowed me to cover the bad trip requests.
My rate is down because I stopped accepting rides while on a ride due to Uber canceling trips to give to a closer driver. If I’m on a ride my cancellation rate should not be reduced due to me not accepting rides while not free.
I'm at 84% accepting rate. I'm 1 point down from being Platinum. Lol are you serious? I guess I'm doing ok . In SLC. Good information I didn't understand the old way.
Thank you for that information. I thought that I might be deep platformed for having low acceptance rate, which is around 50% now. I will not take a ride for less than five dollars. I tried on Thursday taking some of those low fares because the dollars per mile were up around the dollar. Two hours later, I had gross $40. The zones seem to be bullshit. I can be right on the edge of the $7.20 hot zone, and get absolutely nothing for two minutes. What bullshit is that?
Doesn't make sense why they can't put the estimated distance of the trip on the offer card without having to estimate by time if your platinum status Uber pro. My market is still time and distance if they go upfront pricing I am done.
My goal is $30/hour or more.. I don't pay attention to mileage.. I look at the time to the rider and the time to drop off. Add together and divide by 2. If the pay is the same or more I accept. Sometimes I'll accept if it is slightly below.. My acceptance rate is %94. And I am meeting my goal or exceeding it for the last 3 weeks. Only been doing Uber for 2 months. I work early mornings between 6am - 10am then between 3pm - 7pm. So I'm not being picky. I pretty much take everything unless it is significantly below my goal. I guess I'm fortunate that everything that comes my way is generally meeting my requirements.. I do believe that the algorithm learns what you will accept and will test you from time to time to see if your standards have lowered. But it seems as though it has learned what I will accept and only offers me those conditions..
@@chelo2626ify according to my Google Sheets file that I keep track of mileage and everything I’m being paid $1.09 per mile averaging 30+ dollars an hour. I will say it did take a few weeks to figure out how to do this on a consistent basis. Also, I’m not trying to say that mileage isn’t important. I’m just saying that I don’t pay attention to it when I’m accepting rides because in my opinion for me, mileage has always worked itself out in the end luckily
@ I drive for a fleet in Los Angeles. Three months in and average $2 - 3k gross earnings per week working 5-6 days. I fathom a guess that I would make $900-1400 if I were actually working for myself per week. Does that sound right to you? I'm asking because I'm considering doing Uber for myself instead of a company. I don't have to pay for anything regarding the vehicles I drive, so that's a plus for me now. Also the cars that I drive are Uber Black and Uber Black XL level( Tesla model Y, Kia EV9 and Rivian R1S SUVs) We can't pick and choose our rides, we have to accept 100%what we are given. We take UberX up to Black class rides. Also when we get a ride we can see the upfront price for about 2-3 seconds and then the ride is added to our queue. We usually get the next ride during the current ride and sometimes even stack another ride after that one. We drive like dogs pretty much the whole 8 hour shift. Just slammed. Once in a while we might have to wait for a ride but it's rare. In those cases we have to continue on driving. I'm wondering how much your gross earnings are when you net the $30/hr
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the only time I see 1.00+ per mile here in Dallas is when it is a short trip and the fair is the minimum 3.46, the problem is time in traffic and rider taking 5+ minutes to showup
Yes…same here. I drive in Dallas as well and if there’s not a surge then they pay less than $.80mi and sometimes less than $.65mi. My acceptance rate is less than 10%.
I’ve noticed on airport trips they know the ones that are top tippers and they subtract the percentage that they usually would tip from the upfront fare. I don’t even drive as much as I once did anymore. The area is oversaturated with drivers that will accept ANY ride.
@@DTownDesigns 100% agree on the airport tipping deduction...I am now torn between which is worse....stinky by pot or stinky by indian food. Also, what is with the terrorist convention all day everyday at the DFW rideshare lot...someone needs to call homeland security
I get it with the stinky food. I work only good neighborhoods so I almost never get the pot. I work Dallas and I work the Airport. I don't think it's fair to judge a ethnicity as possible terrorists. As a person of color, my terrorist could be a white male.
But I tried to love everyone and stay away from shares although I've had some profitable share rides but the concern that I have is the pickup doesn't tell me where that ride is going to go so if I accidentally take a share ride to the airport from Dallas I don't get the benefit of catching a ride at the airport because I have a Rider going elsewhere which in one case was Fort Worth Texas, and in the other case to a neighborhood where a Uber driver was recently shot. I try to put my head down and make $300 plus and it's few hours as possible my acceptance rate is about 18%
I'm dash in Arlington. I have been getting a lot of those orders for the past week, and I'm on the large order program. Yesterday, I worked in the Mansfield zone and made $30 in one hour.
I cancel on them after the 2 minute mark. My favorite is when they say be right there. Bye
Your foresight on this matter back in 2022 was on point!
As a uber driver I do the same decline, decline, decline, decline, decline, decline, decline, decline, decline, decline,
You'll get less rides. Only hurting yourself...uber doesn't need you.
@@maddogsenglishmen8020 Why are you wasting your time defending uber. Uber does not need your defence
@@mk696 That guy depends on Uber to feed his family he is a very low skill guy... LOL
@@mk696 That is the guy who takes all those $3 rides we decline😆🤣
@andyh9228 exactly where did 3.81 come from??? $3 is NOT buying me anything. Period.
Mine is 22% right now on Uber and 35% on Lyft in Fort Myers Florida. I’m right there with you. I sent them nasty messages on their surveys that we get all the time.
I miss the days of bonuses, promotions, and fair fares
@@dadillac215 robots are coming. Enjoy what's left of uber. It's never gonna be what it was
I'm at 40%, right... last year I was 95%... I refuse to take horrible trips... I can't do it.. 😢
If you accept 50%, you're taking horrible trips.
Mine is 11%
@유리앙-k1l man, I'm almost there after this week... all good must come to a end...
Don't worry there are illegal immigrants driving on fraudulent accounts who will take all the rides you won't.
Don’t know how they can magically make it profitable either. The cost are basically the same no matter who is doing the driving.
Exactly these people who complain think they are hurting uber when they only hurting themselves. Uber is saturated with drivers. You are all replaceable
How do you know what people think? Lol@@maddogsenglishmen8020
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How do I cancel the rideshare guy?
from 86% before upfront F to 16% now and steadily going down
You'll get less rides if it's below 86%
Accepting more money losing trips doesn't make any sense at all. When there is demand, they will send the request to you, regardless of your acceptance rate.
Good job learning. It isn't upfront fares that's causing the reduction. It's you learning what a profitable ride is and not being forced to accept rides to maintain your status that is causing the reduction.
I went from $29 an hour before upfront to $47 an hour after. My acceptance rate is 4% Uber and 1% Lyft. I'm in Austin so we have standard and advantage modes which means I do not get routed any work when it's slow. I used to average 38 rides a night for 2 years until standard advantage. Then I went to 41 total completed rides from July 15 to September 5. Now that it's busy again I'm getting work again and now Uber is losing money on the majority of the rides I do for payback.
I noticed that if Uber gives me a dollar per mile, they charge the rider two dollars per mile or more. That's a lot of profit for Uber!
@@damienwade7848 that's how capitalism works.
In New Jersey Uber gives 66 cent per Mile 😂
They charged my rider $200 and only paid me $35
Im glad i found this video. Man it's tough out there. Im in Pittsburgh and im at 11% right now. I was a high 90's guy but im not taking the garbage trips. I want to do video to show the trips im turning down.
For example Pickup: 23 mins/14.9 miles - Destination: 23 min/15.7 miles
Pay: $23.03
Thats insane to me. Why would a passenger want to wait this long to get picked up? But the pay is even more crazy. 46 minutes and 30.6 miles for $23 might look good to newbies but thats not close to what we should be getting for trip like this. Especially in Pittsburgh... I've been getting alot of these type of offers and it's coming at a ridiculous pace. I can literally turn down 10 or more trips in 45 second span. I even got a bad report because a passenger said I was too distracted by my phone. Well of course I'm going to be distracted when Uber is slamming 30 trip requests during a 10 min ride.... Plus i have to pay attention to the directions too... It's really weird to me because I feel like im the only driver in the city 😂😂😂 like wtf.
17% - I went from 32 to 23% in 20 min at the airport in one day. Just got worse from there.
Thanks for posting this, because this is so true. I live here in South Florida and I have been driving for Lyft 6.5 years and I’m the same way as You…why should I drive 10 minutes away (6-8 miles) to pick someone up (without pay), to drive them 10 minutes (8 miles) to their drop off location for $5….make it make sense.
Needless to say that I’m not in the “GOLD” status anymore because of my acceptance rate has dropped tremendously over the past few months. (I’m still a 5Star driver but they don’t care about that). YES I’d like to pick these passengers up, but not for what I’m getting paid.
I recently got my weekly Driver Feedback and I’m still at 5 Stars, and they have the audacity to tell me that I kept 76% of my earnings…immediately contacted Lyft and said (Not when you took from one of my long drives exactly 50% of my pay)..of course they said they’d look into it, never heard back from anyone.
THANKS for posting this.
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My is 40% accepting rate. i make a lot more money now than ever
My Uber acceptance rate is 4%. I can show screen shot after screen shot of the most ridiculous offers, so many $2-3 including the expected tip for 20-45 minutes! What the heck? If that includes the expected tip, what was the actual fair, a penny a mile??? The other day I accepted one Uber offer all day and rejected over 60 of them.
Mine too
You'll get less rides and they give you the bad rides if it's below 86%
@maddogsenglishmen8020 so why they gave me the bad rides when my rate was 95%
@chelo2626ify I had a low acceptance rate and I would awful rides and they would take me offline without me knowing. I keep my acceptance rate above 86% and now I make good money. Sometimes a bad ride leads to a good ride. Your only punishing yourself not uber. Uber isn't short or drivers in this economy. Your replaceable
@@chelo2626ify how long was it at 95%?
I'd say 28% AR is high
Currently my acceptance rate with Uber is 73%. It has been as low as 68%. With Lyft, it is 92% only because they still offer bonuses and promotions in my market.Everything that you said overall is spot on!
People, everything comes down to the flooding of the market with labor. Doesn't matter what industry: software, nursing, construction, meatpacking, rideshare, etc.. The goal of capital/management in this economy is to flood the market with labor, crushing wages. And they get all the help they need with help from the politicians of both parties. All the bogus stories of "crops rotting in the fields", "jobs that Americans don't want..." "Americans not motivated enough to handle STEM fields..." All lies. And you have to understand and accept that the biggest factor driving down wages is mass immigration. Oh, know, don't go there. That's raciss. Well, if you want to understand the problem and find a way to a solution you must accept the truth.
100% correct. This immigration crisis isn't an accident. They are importing voters and cheap labor. The uni party doesn't care. Republican and Democrat are just labels they can change at will based on the voting tendencies of the people they import.
They also need to drop this driver rating bs where they track how we handle our phones, speed, or harsh breaking. Their speed limits are off on many roads, they don’t know the reason behind harsh breaking, and how I handle my phone in my car is none of their business as I am not their employee. What gives them these rights to tell me how to do my job…that infringes on the contractor/contractee relationship
What do you mean by you only accept minimum fare request? Can you elaborate or show screenshots so that we understand what you’re saying?
Search "Strategies For Accepting Upfront Fares For Uber/ Lyft In 2024"
Its interesting i started out eith uber and then lyft , uber gave me a lot of business at first, and i like how lyft asks you for a goal of how much you want to earn . Its switched now im doing 3 times business with lyft, they pay you more than uber it seems
Allow them to keep it up. No one will be driving. They are pushing the drivers away. That will be less money for them. Uber is going to feel it in their pockets
My acceptance rate was used to be 85 percent now it’s only 25 in Chicago because of lot of shit request 😢
Turn OFF (or put into flight mode) data BEFORE tapping to accept job. Then wait for error message to appear and tap it then turn data back on (or flight mode off).
AR takes much less of a beating by doing this. It won't increase your AR but does help stop it dropping so fast
Thanks! Im going to do this on my Iphone. I guess I will put flight mode on.
Mines is 5% acceptance rate
Mine too
You get less rides If it's below 86%
Yeah but you will take better rides more is not better with these apps .
Mine bounces between 10 and 11 percent and it seems to work. I am only now rejecting fares that are lower than 4.75 star rating and that is working out for the better, tho I got tricked the other night and got a 5 star that must of been a new account and I almost cancelled the fare half way through, they got a 1 star so hopefully that will drag them down to below 4 stars.
@@dznutz3598 it's been 4 months since I driven for Uber and Lyft. Mostly because I'm already working a lot overtime at my job. So,I didn't have the need to go out and drive. Especially since a lot of rides sent to me are really low paying offers and there aren't many surges to get me to go out. Feels like it's not worth my time driving anymore.
I literally just had to pull over to type this out to everyone…
I just got a Lyft rider request to pickup 10 miles away to then drive them 36 miles to Miami Airport (Estimated 26 minutes) for only $22…
Make it make sense.🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Of course I didn’t “accept” the ride.
This has got to stop with the lowballing us Drivers on these rides share platforms. Thanks for posting this video.
How to destroy your business in 10 years. Ready, set, Uber!
All by design. It will justify them rolling out autonomous vehicles, like they are already doing in U.S
Uber destroying their business? I don't think you've looked at their financials. The new standard advantage is a game changer for them. They're going to make so much money when they roll that out worldwide.
Now how to take advantage of people through the use of immigrants. Uber is doing a masterclass on that. It should really be taught in schools based on how much slave labor Uber is able to gain from these immigrants.
In my market, they don't upfront pricing, just time and distance to the pick up.
They also finally eliminated the quest bonus, which was fine with me because I was about 70 miles from that area.
I definitely agree that Uber can be a little more generous in sharing the pie.
Uber sucks
100%
It's always best in how you do Uber and treat it like a side gig instead of doing it as a business. Like on the weekend or something
I am 100% agree with you I have been on the Uber platform 10 years this past two or three years Uber's really suck I got online for 5 hours later I am going home with 29 dollars and that's five trips
My AR is 32% and cancellation rate is 8%. Before upfront fares I rarely declined or cancelled a ride because with time and distance rates I can use quick math to calculate whether or not a trip is worth it. Now its a guessing game with upfront prices. I will take only rides that give me $1.20 or more per mile, but I noticed they are fleecing the riders more too. A short 3 mile trip for a rider can be over $20 here, but the driver only gets $8-11 upfront.
The Rate card needs to come back 😊
@@PierreMcKenzie-o7v you realize robots are coming to take your job. It's never gonna be like it was. Robots are picking up customers now. They need you less and less everyday. Accept it for what it is or quit
I noticed that too @PierreMcKenzie-o7v! I haven't had a rating since like last year. I don't even know if my customers can rate me or not. It's a frickin mess that needs to be fixed!
I live in Baltimore and typically drive in that market, but we have reciprocity with Washington, DC and last week I was staying there and drove there full time. My acceptance rate went from 10-12% in Baltimore down to 4-7% in DC. I couldn't believe how low many of the fares were during the day, especially. I could never afford to drive my car for less than minimum wage AND traffic really screwed me on a number of days where rides may have been good upfront but when the trip time doubled the adjustment Uber or Lyft made me operate at a loss.
28 percent is actually high for most drivers .
Good information to know!
Im usually around 9% - driving uber in Amsterdam. Ever since I’ve started to decline more rides, my income went up
Mine is 3
Yea they expect u to drive 15 mins to take someone 8 mins away for like 8 bux😡 I was 68 now I'm 72, butttt I rarely log on and when I do I look for high surge pay
Mine is one percent
I’m so tired of Uber and Lyfts low fares while they profit 60% or more. Absolutely ridiculous!!
My rating seldom gets to 20% and spends most of its life in the single digits. I focus exclusively on my hourly rate being a minimum of $30 an hour, meaning I won’t except a ride that doesn’t yield at least 50 cents a minute for ALL miles driven. I don’t do eats or connect and finding it more & more difficult to meet my minimum requirements.
What is really disgusting in Boston is that Uber takes over 50% in certain neighborhoods that are heavy Uber users. They charge these customers more and take more. discrimination is very disturbing.
27% too high according to most people
Yes well said we are experiencing this in the east coast n have resulted in to selective picking rides .yes we need to demand better .my acceptance rate as n uber driver have gone down significantly
8% currently, I just don’t care, most rides don’t make sense or rider ratings are too low.
I have been driving full time for Lyft and Uber for 8 years in Austin Texas and I am very happy. I work 50 to 60 hours a week and usually make between $900 and $1100 a week.
Then you are insane because that's a thousand miles a week subtracted from the value of your car after you only made $16 an hour 👍🤡 if someone told you that was going to happen to you at your 9 to 5:00 you would say they were retarded, but here you are bragging about it.
Those raw numbers are horrible. Thats maximum 22/hr before costs. How many miles do you drive a week and how much gas money do you spend? You may want to consider getting an hourly job.
That's horrible! I can make around $1600-1700 for 49 hours a week. I do the airport
Thank you for this
I opt for looking at $ per minute avoid or be careful if a long ride (50 mi or greater) looks appealing. I opt for those ~$12 rides that are ~ 6miles and can do in less than 10 min. This ensures I get $1 per minute ($60 per ACTIVE hour). I often get $80 or $120 or more per ACTIVE hour on a trip...cus I know this can and will boil down to $40 to $50 per hr in the end and $25 to $35 online hour and living in the CA bay area this barely does it. I drive an electric car so insurance and payment is higher but I save on gas... So yes I average ~ $40 to $48 per active hour but in the end it's sorta like having a $25 to $35/hr job. Not bad but not great either because of the area and bcus you must work when it's busy so that means doing small shifts 3 to 6 hrs each twice a day. That's not bad but not great either. I cherry pick and $1300 to $1800 per week depending how much I work and that is not good to the cost of living in NOR CAL but it could be worse. I think I'll look for a job with 401k insurance etc and do this part time. Then maybe I can save some dough!!
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In Massachusetts, we get a minimum of 32.50/active hour (pickip+delivery).
I don't care about long pickups anymore. The metric to pay attention to is active hours/online hours. It's actually worse than that as destination filters no longer work so a lot of off line driving home (whereas in the past I would normally realize half the time making money on a return).
It's like they don't want drivers
Driver protection laws are also in effect in NY
in New Jersey, we get paid based on time and miles and I assure you it sucks.! It’s penny on the dollar…literally. Here’s an example of one of my trips….
Your earnings
Fare
$13.51
Base
$0.87
Distance
11.94 mile × $0.66/mile (rounding applied)
$7.88
Time
20.92 minute × $0.17/minute (rounding applied)
$3.56
Wait Time at Pickup
4.62 min × $0.26/min (rounding applied)
$1.20
Tip
$8.00
Your earnings
$21.51
Expenses
-$0.29
Trip balance
11% over here just North of London, UK
Upfront fare has just gone down here in Atlanta by an additional 10%. It’s awful. The more you work the less you make.Uber collects $35 from a rider and driver gets $12.95 driving 26 miles, 33 minutes at highway speed.
My acceptance rate is 2%
Yes!
Wow!! I was bragging that mine is 6%
28%is very high for uber right now my friend
There is nothing going for Florida it's pathetic
I learn a lot by watching you guys. And I have been laughing at some of the request I've been getting. I live in MA, and I only drive in the South Shore of Boston. I know it's crazy, but I don't take request into the city that much; they don't really make it worth my wild. I never take airport request anymore because it's not worth it to me with the traffic. I laugh how one ride to the airport, which would maybe 15 min to pick up the rider and over 30-40 min in traffic to the city can only cost maybe $17-$20 in rush hour, I would not take that request, then the next request would give say close to $25 not going towards the city, pick up the person takes 5-10 & taking then to their destination only takes 15 min. And I think it's going away from the city, and no one wants to go that way, why it may would cost more. I don't get it.
In the Dever metro area, I spend my entire day sitting in traffic.
Ok so your acceptance rate is not important? Today was my first day out and mine is at like 34% for uber and 26% on door dash so I just started ignoring them vs declining, seems like a good work around?
I agree upfront pricing needs to go away. We need to be paid for our time and distance. My acceptance rate is at 74 percent, and the only reason it not lower is that I drive only during turbo hours on lyft. Besides that, my city is unbearable to drive on base fares.
25% or less for me with both Uber and Lyft. Won’t take anything under a dollar a mile or puts me in heavy traffic where the compensation for time is minimal or non existent with both apps.
here in the rio grande valley in south texas for Uber, there's no such thing as up front fares. the only thing we see is the trip time AFTER PICK UP!!! we can't see if the pick up is 1 mile or 10 miles from our current location. we don't know how much we're getting paid until after we've completed the trip. as for Lyft, the trips are complete garbage. Lyft has reduced dates for trips. for example, a trip from harlingen international airport to the international bridge in Brownsville is to pay $25-$26 now those same trips pay $17-$18. my acceptance rate for Lyft is 3% and I'm only accepting 3-4 rides a week.
In the UK I am getting $6-$9 daily full discounts regularly my trip would be $21 with a local cab with uber its been as low as $13 on some days.
another issue I'm having with Uber is that they're not giving me credit for the exclusive (non trip radar) trips. as of 9/18/24, the number of accepted rides out of 200 was 169. over the last 10 days, i accepted 12 exclusive trips yet Uber is saying i haven't accepted any so as of 9/28, I'm still showing that I've only accepted 169 out of 200. btw, i haven't declined any trips. as mentioned, we don't have up front fares so if our ar isn't 85%, we're literally flying blind
The rate card was the best no manipulation like the up-front fare rip-off
the tier standard pays you less and you are not eligible first in line according to gps .other drivers who have a better acceptance rate will receive the ping with more pay even though you are closest to the customer.
I can't say what the rate should be (above my pay and think grade) but i believe with all my heart and mind drivers should be paid every mile/time from accepting the ride, going to the rider and then to the destination.
A driver would not get pickup pay till he enters (unless he is within that zone already which surrounds the city.) If he is in the city zone and goes a long way out side the zone to pickup, they still qualify for pickup and the trip pay.
Trips would need to be completed or within a close distance at riders request to get the entire pay (unless rider canceled or shorten trip, if so drivers still get total pay.
Drivers would be required on their part to be 1. In the city zone confines. And 2. Complete the whole trip. If driver cancels or stops trip then pickup pay would become disqualified regardless of the reason.
The last rule would prevent drivers from going to get them and just canceling to get pickup pay.
Wait pay needs to go higher as well.
I would really like if you broke down the difference between what Minneapolis Minnesota did for you to keep Uber in your city. Compared to the way it was prior under the old pay scale system. I would love to hear did you benefit or was this a bust?
NAILED IT! I make 20% less doing uber now than I did 2 years ago
Mine AR hovers between 2 and 6 percent. In KC
Mine is at 2%
I really hope your channel discusses the shortcomings with these two apps. Lyfts rider identification standard is in the toilet.
Why Uber radar trips want to pay drivers 25 cents per mile???
Thanks Joe
28% = Rookie. Rate Card is way better if you have a proper Rate Card because upfront fares is a Race to the Bottom and bottom feeders will take the fare.
I want $1/mile but it's very rare. My acceptance rate is about 34% I think. Haven't driven yet since the last update screwed things up.
I'm still on rate card but I don't accept anything farther than 7 minutes / 2 mi unless it gets over 23 minutes and 12 mi so I can make money on the way there by driving slow up front, and only if the highway portion is the last half. I think my AR is probably like 10% you can make 2 to $3 a mile delivering for Walmart, if you don't mind having tips stolen from job combination.
For all novel reasons, no one considers there are multiple types of drivers for different types of deliveries, whether it's people or packages (food, prescriptions, groceries, etc.) to match what the driver declares they're delivering. I'm on a bicycle, meaning my range is limited by time and speed. I can only accept what I can reach and do over a certain amount of time. Basically, I can make rates for what a car can drive ($0.66/mile), maybe more, because I can only ride for 1-2 miles at a time each way. My earnings are what drivers wouldn't, couldn't ever accept hence, low acceptance rates for them, higher for me, means those types of deliveries will increase for couriers for me. It will take years, I guess, for it to self-sort, but there was a time I was making 8-10 deliveries per day, averaging $45-$60 daily, now I'm competing with scooters for the same fare...for now.
I’m at 54% acceptance right now only because I use it on my way to work and home and only except rides that don’t take me to far out of the way
Don’t you wait longer for rides? And at what point can your driver account be deactivated for declining rides?
My AR is 31%. I look at time and $$, don't care about distance. I want so much per minute, I add up the total time trip....time to pick-up then time to drop off, if it doesn't equate to so much per minute then I don't take the trip.
You really believe that up front fare will ever go away..???
Great content!
I've dropped from 95% (2017 thru 2023). I am floating 45-50% all of 2024. I have stretches where I refuse 15 consecutive requests.
Yep, quest elimination is my main reason as quest allowed me to cover the bad trip requests.
I am a new driver who never gets upfront fares like you guys. Why is that? Why can't I cheery pick
How do you say “NO” to upfront pricing? Please elaborate.
These are the good ole days boys. In 3-5 years our job goes away due to Robotaxi.
Correct.. They are using us now to fund the long term goal of replacing us. They know exactly what they are doing.
Robot taxis will never work here in Atlanta unless they build a brand new city.
My acceptance rate is 19%
They keep low balling the fares!!!
You get less rides If it's below 86%. You only hurting yourself. They don't need you
@@maddogsenglishmen8020lies😂
Absolutely
It's higher than mine. 18 percent.
You will higher than me mine is 11% probably today will go to 5%
My rate is down because I stopped accepting rides while on a ride due to Uber canceling trips to give to a closer driver. If I’m on a ride my cancellation rate should not be reduced due to me not accepting rides while not free.
My acceptance rate in Texas was 85 I am full time and now 67 so this is bull and I really don't care anymore.
I'm at 84% accepting rate. I'm 1 point down from being Platinum. Lol are you serious? I guess I'm doing ok . In SLC. Good information I didn't understand the old way.
I have a question what's your online time versus active time with those kind of acceptance rates?
Thank you for that information. I thought that I might be deep platformed for having low acceptance rate, which is around 50% now. I will not take a ride for less than five dollars. I tried on Thursday taking some of those low fares because the dollars per mile were up around the dollar. Two hours later, I had gross $40. The zones seem to be bullshit. I can be right on the edge of the $7.20 hot zone, and get absolutely nothing for two minutes. What bullshit is that?
I stopped driving Uber because of lack of upfront info in New Jersey. Guess it's a no win situation either way.
Doesn't make sense why they can't put the estimated distance of the trip on the offer card without having to estimate by time if your platinum status Uber pro. My market is still time and distance if they go upfront pricing I am done.
Bring back Quest... public traded company has made Uber no good... they answering to shareholders...😢😢
My goal is $30/hour or more.. I don't pay attention to mileage.. I look at the time to the rider and the time to drop off. Add together and divide by 2. If the pay is the same or more I accept. Sometimes I'll accept if it is slightly below.. My acceptance rate is %94. And I am meeting my goal or exceeding it for the last 3 weeks. Only been doing Uber for 2 months. I work early mornings between 6am - 10am then between 3pm - 7pm. So I'm not being picky. I pretty much take everything unless it is significantly below my goal. I guess I'm fortunate that everything that comes my way is generally meeting my requirements.. I do believe that the algorithm learns what you will accept and will test you from time to time to see if your standards have lowered. But it seems as though it has learned what I will accept and only offers me those conditions..
Miles and time is what matters
@@chelo2626ify according to my Google Sheets file that I keep track of mileage and everything I’m being paid $1.09 per mile averaging 30+ dollars an hour. I will say it did take a few weeks to figure out how to do this on a consistent basis. Also, I’m not trying to say that mileage isn’t important. I’m just saying that I don’t pay attention to it when I’m accepting rides because in my opinion for me, mileage has always worked itself out in the end luckily
What market do you work in?
@@STODAKINESTL
@ I drive for a fleet in Los Angeles. Three months in and average $2 - 3k gross earnings per week working 5-6 days. I fathom a guess that I would make $900-1400 if I were actually working for myself per week. Does that sound right to you?
I'm asking because I'm considering doing Uber for myself instead of a company. I don't have to pay for anything regarding the vehicles I drive, so that's a plus for me now.
Also the cars that I drive are Uber Black and Uber Black XL level( Tesla model Y, Kia EV9 and Rivian R1S SUVs) We can't pick and choose our rides, we have to accept 100%what we are given. We take UberX up to Black class rides. Also when we get a ride we can see the upfront price for about 2-3 seconds and then the ride is added to our queue. We usually get the next ride during the current ride and sometimes even stack another ride after that one. We drive like dogs pretty much the whole 8 hour shift. Just slammed. Once in a while we might have to wait for a ride but it's rare. In those cases we have to continue on driving.
I'm wondering how much your gross earnings are when you net the $30/hr
1%
@@1KT-j6k that's why you get 1 % of ride requests. You get the scraps
@@maddogsenglishmen8020 at least I know my worth
@@1KT-j6k yeh 1 %. Robots and illegals will just take those rides. Only hurting yourself. Uber will never be what it was..enjoy what's left of it.
@@1KT-j6k yeh 1%
Mine is 8%