IBM WorkPad 20X: The 1998 Palm PDA Experience

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  • Taking a look back at the $299 IBM WorkPad from the late 1990s! Specifically the 2MB 8602-20X model, really a rebranded 3Com Palm III PDA. Mmm 2-bit monochrome touchscreen, 16MHz CPU, infrared wireless, and tons of oddly addictive Palm OS games. What a lovely little retro handheld.
    ● LGR links:
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    ● Download disc images of the desktop software here:
    archive.org/details/WorkPadV3CD
    ● Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound:
    www.epidemicsound.com
    #LGR #Palm #PDA
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  • @LGR
    @LGR  4 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    To those asking about that folding ThinkPad keyboard: I've got an entire video about it!
    th-cam.com/video/nRVJCtREW38/w-d-xo.html
    Also I misspoke saying the WorkPad uses _AA_ batteries instead of _AAA._ Heh, no. Definitely triple-As 🤦‍♂️

    • @robbruce2128
      @robbruce2128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I so coveted that keyboard but never could justify the cost, thanks for showing it off again!

    • @tiberiusbrain
      @tiberiusbrain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That keyboard is awesome!!!

    • @ZanHecht
      @ZanHecht 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The folding Palm keyboard was even more impressive. It folded down in four parts to something about the size of the palm pilot itself.

    • @alerey4363
      @alerey4363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      holy fck! I thought it was a 3D fx or something but it's the real mechanical keyboard springing from the inside almost instantly and sliding perfectly!

    • @runnlikehell3
      @runnlikehell3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZanHecht got one at a goodwill and would play with it for hours.

  • @this_is_patrick
    @this_is_patrick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +506

    0:38 That butterfly keyboard opening tho.

    • @MrKarmando
      @MrKarmando 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      i was like wow, why the things like this arent popular now?

    • @daedalus-prime
      @daedalus-prime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It's a thing of beauty!

    • @cyclops8238
      @cyclops8238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It did it so smoothly as well

    • @gwishart
      @gwishart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      It works less smoothly when it's full of staples, hair and biscuit crumbs.

    • @AngryDavid808
      @AngryDavid808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That was really awesome! My jaw opened out of amazement when I'd seen that!

  • @paulallanbaker
    @paulallanbaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    "All workpad and no playpad makes LGR a dull boypad" - LGR 2020.

  • @TheDrummerDude17
    @TheDrummerDude17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    Man, the good old days when technology seemed so exciting and fun. Even just the Windows logon sounds were luxurious for the time. Felt like you could do anything. I really miss that.

    • @rugxulo
      @rugxulo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Go compile your own Linux kernel! DO IT!! 🤣

    • @TheDrummerDude17
      @TheDrummerDude17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @Sensible Talk ​ @Sensible Talk Exactly! I feel like where technology is now is more than sufficient. Realistically, we have it so easy now that it almost seems dumb to keep releasing a new iPhone every other month and new this and new that...just chill!

    • @TheDrummerDude17
      @TheDrummerDude17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Gaming York Wanna travel back in time with me to the late '90s/early 2000s?

    • @spac18
      @spac18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think the modern information overload has jaded us

    • @TheDrummerDude17
      @TheDrummerDude17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@spac18 Definitely. Most people can't seem to go 10 seconds without "googling" something on their phone. 😒

  • @cleverson_sa_
    @cleverson_sa_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I almost cried when I listened the HotSync start sound after years! My first IT job was developing apps to these PDAs, until 2004. I have my last Palm, Tungstein T|5, yet! Regards.

    • @malcolmdane8819
      @malcolmdane8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's interesting. What language was used? What tool's? What IDE? Yoi should post a video about that, I'd find that super interesting.

  • @BadAnimeGroup
    @BadAnimeGroup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +648

    "I seriously love how simple this is to use. It's a pleasure!"
    Meanwhile, in 2020, iTunes decides every few months that my iPhone doesn't actually need any added music or files and never completes a sync.
    My introduction to Palm was through a Treo 680 and I absolutely adored it; used that thing until the charging port died.

    • @Cinkodacs
      @Cinkodacs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Obligatory Apple bashing ^^: You see, your problem is that you are using Apple products, I can just connect my Android and pull things over in Total Commander same as if I were copying to a pendrive.

    • @BadAnimeGroup
      @BadAnimeGroup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ​@@Cinkodacs Funny thing is that I am an Apple basher myself, so I can't even disagree with you. I'm fine with the phone itself, but goddamn iTunes is probably the worst program I have to use on a semi-regular basis.
      - sigh - I really miss my Palm Pre 2. I just keep getting good deals on iOS devices.

    • @memsom
      @memsom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bad Anime Group i subscribed to Apple Music and probably haven’t used iTunes in 2 or more years. Google Music also works and probably still allows you to upload your music to the cloud for free.

    • @PC3Pointless
      @PC3Pointless 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yet the latest version of iTunes is still able to sync the 1st gen iPod from 2001... Its all swings and roundabouts with Apple

    • @MladenMijatov
      @MladenMijatov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I find it annoying how calendar and contacts today are far too complex than they need to be. I always have issues synchronizing things and meetings.

  • @normantor
    @normantor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    I started working at IBM in 2000. This was a status symbol!. My manager had one. Wow! East Fishkill! We made the Game Cube CPU................god so old.....

    • @WintrBorn
      @WintrBorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      normantor wait, NY State? I didn't know Fishkill had an IBM plant.

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@WintrBorn Really didn't know that? It's still GlobalFoundries leading edge Fab to this day (where they make 14 & 12nm products like AMD's Zen/Zen+ CPU's for ex.)

    • @WintrBorn
      @WintrBorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cooe I left the area some years back, it was just surprising to see that area pop up.
      Last time I thought about Fishkill, people were crying because killing fish is meeeeeean. 😁

    • @normantor
      @normantor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Ken Evanska Buddy..when we started we made the CPU for the Mac....plus the GTX 6600 and the CPU for the 360 and the CPU for the PS3...oh wait the CPU for the WII. Trust me we lost money on all of it.

    • @WintrBorn
      @WintrBorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      normantor He's saying he's over 99 years old (Radio Shack started in 1921). Gamecube is what, 20 years old?

  • @howheels
    @howheels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Man I loved my Palm. I started with a Palm III, upgraded to a IIIC, and finally a Sony Clie SJ33. It got me through college as my primary note-taking device during class. Hearing those beeps and boops is a major nostalgia bomb!

    • @owenbevans6062
      @owenbevans6062 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had the Sony Clie Palm (PEG-NZ90/U). Incredible device until I got a Compaq. Your Comment reminded me of what it was. Gave it to a girlfriend that was in college at the time.

  • @Norweeg
    @Norweeg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    3:32 Heh, that number is a requirement to test a calculator.

  • @ChrisDreher
    @ChrisDreher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    8:10 "Your PC and PDA are now NSYNC"
    LOL!

    • @Not-Great-at-Gaming
      @Not-Great-at-Gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      They're NSYNC and... I want it that way... (Never mind, wrong band.)

    • @trevorlane
      @trevorlane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The transition was a little too subtle that I almost missed it haha

    • @ChrisDreher
      @ChrisDreher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@trevorlane I _barely_ noticed it myself but then went "Wait a minute...!".

    • @Apollo440
      @Apollo440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _Oops_ he did it again!

    • @wesleythomas7125
      @wesleythomas7125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      10 I never
      20 wanna hear you say
      30 I want it that way
      40 goto 10

  • @0ktober
    @0ktober 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    PDAs make me feel warm and fuzzy. There's nothing like fiddling with one while taking shelter in an collapsed car tunnel, eating some колбаса and waiting for the blowout to sweep past.

    • @yakud3091
      @yakud3091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Меченый? Какого чёрта?!

    • @Blackadder75
      @Blackadder75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      most normal people just use their phone for that

    • @Crossfire12312
      @Crossfire12312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Get out of here stalker!

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Blackadder75 no such luxury in the Zone

    • @guyshafor1320
      @guyshafor1320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I wish Stalker was as stable as palmOS

  • @LKRaider
    @LKRaider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I remember reading the whole Lord Of The Rings trilogy on a Palm III. The books in TXT format would not fit memory, so I had to find a text reader app that would progressively extract the text from a ZIP file, page by page. And it did work!
    Also did some BASIC programming on it, I think it was RealBASIC, that had good UI libs. I created a simple platform game and also a drawing app. Good times.

    • @nhilz
      @nhilz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      oh man the eyestrain i get just thinking about that

    • @aaperetto
      @aaperetto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SmallBASIC?

  • @DaxtonAnderson
    @DaxtonAnderson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I remember my moms friend had one on these in 1999.
    I can remember me saying "How cool would it be if this thing had a TV and Phone in it?"
    Now we have exactly that, smartphones lol

    • @harshnemesis
      @harshnemesis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea that came like in 2002 wasn't palam tho, it was the pocket pc, which was like palm but more advanced, the "tv" was watching movies... and later youtube when that was a thing... kind of like it's now. I remember watching youtube in 2007 on my hp ipaq hx4700.. it was awesome.. but by 2009 google updated codecs, so the 3rd party app I was using no longer worked and they released their own app for windows mobile, which they purposely made to run like crap, it run in 10fps and didn't do full screen properly, the video black bars around all four corners, no joke.. however core player made a superior yt client for windows mobile and so did htc, but htc made it to work on their devices only.

  • @demogorgonzola
    @demogorgonzola 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    10:34 ``Dope Wars (...) just as addictive as ever`` - I see what you did there :)

  • @DanielVazquez-zn6hy
    @DanielVazquez-zn6hy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Awww... but I was really expecting to see Doom on this thing :v

  • @LymanPhillips
    @LymanPhillips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So simple and modern. One of the most elegant OSs I've ever used. I loved my Palm.

  • @RetroJ3000
    @RetroJ3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    13:10 haha nice the classic 58008 on the calculator, 90's kids will understand 👌

    • @Pommezul
      @Pommezul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      2000's kids also did that :P

    • @RetroJ3000
      @RetroJ3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Pommezul no I'm pretty sure 90's kids are the only kids that have ever used calculators, definitely no one before or after us :P

    • @olathianwhiskey416
      @olathianwhiskey416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RetroJ3000 calculators aren't real, stop lying

    • @fuzzydunlop1753
      @fuzzydunlop1753 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      BOOOOOBS!!!!

    • @av28379
      @av28379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RetroJ3000 no they arent the only ones to use calculators, wtf dude everyone has used a calculator

  • @me2olive
    @me2olive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Looking forward to you covering that Windows CE IBM device, hopefully you'll go into a little detail about what CE was and what it went on to become. I think plenty of people may not realise that before it all fell apart with Windows Phone, Microsoft were actually doing pretty well on the mobile device front.

    • @jamescameron149
      @jamescameron149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a number of CE devices over the years. A HP Jornada that I used to take to client sites, and a Dell Axim. Not sure if they were good times. I did like the Jornada though. The Axim not so much. I would however enjoyed one of these:
      www.amazon.com/Dell-Axim-X51v-Handheld-Bluetooth/dp/B000COJ8NY
      I /think/ that was the one... A while ago...

    • @digiowl9599
      @digiowl9599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I really do miss lusting over those wacky PocketPC/Mobile device that THC used to make, before everyone got caught up in Jobs' RDF and started rolling out Apple clones.

    • @me2olive
      @me2olive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slightlyevolved Yes sorry I didn't mean to imply that Windows Phone was CE, I was saying that Windows Phone meant the end for Windows Mobile (a version of CE) which unfortunately for Microsoft wasn't a successful decision. I had an XDA Exec (HTC Universal, back before HTC had made a name for themselves in their own right) which was around the peak of the Windows Mobile years, and most cheaper satnav devices of the time ran a version of CE. I remember a few larger CE notebook-sized devices too like the IBM one shown in this video sold with "handheld PC" branding, there was one by HP I think.

    • @karfsma778
      @karfsma778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh man, windows CE. I had that on my dreamcast

    • @fallingwater
      @fallingwater 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      CE was sank by Android, which worked better on any device you'd otherwise use CE on and you didn't have to pay a license to use. It also had a vast library of apps that worked straight out of the same store you'd use on your phone, without relying on some unpaid dev out there porting useful apps over in their free time.

  • @marcoalaniz3953
    @marcoalaniz3953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    LGR: Before someone asks, no this does not run DOOM.
    Me: Aren't you the person who runs DOOM on everything?

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Enjoy the novelty, there really isn't much that Doom doesn't run on.

    • @marcoalaniz3953
      @marcoalaniz3953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheTurnipKing True.

    • @fhs4137
      @fhs4137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheTurnipKing Now that LGR has helped spread the awareness of it, I can't help but wonder if it's just a question of time before this also runs doom

    • @Camelotsmoon
      @Camelotsmoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We need someone to get Doom on this device ASAP.

    • @ShadowWingTronix
      @ShadowWingTronix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We didn't even get Duke Nukem 3D. That's what I was waiting for.

  • @scareyaf
    @scareyaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This might very well might be the best retro PC hardware channel on TH-cam. Seriously LGR, thank you so much for your efforts. I don't think I've every experienced nostalgia quite like this.

  • @justinpipes85
    @justinpipes85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't know why I never realized how much PDAs were basically the smartphone's great-grandparent that you couldn't make a phone call on. It's amazing how about a decade after this we had the G1 and iPhone.

    • @SomePotato
      @SomePotato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My reaction to the iPhone reveal was, oh it's a PDA with a GMS modem and multi-touch. But no 3G and apps? Shame.

  • @anodyneinstitute
    @anodyneinstitute 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    8:08 truly thought I was hallucinating for a brief moment.

    • @betdavid365
      @betdavid365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I saw it too

    • @JTManuel
      @JTManuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Subliminal message. 😄

    • @maricate
      @maricate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tought wtf backstreet boys had to do with this

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    I still use a PalmOS device or two all the time; they still do some simple things better.
    btw if you do more PalmOS based vids in the future, I have a large repository of Applications for both the Palm and PC
    (~14Gb worth)

    • @no1DdC
      @no1DdC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      Have you considered uploading your repository to the Internet Archive (archive.org)? They already have a ton of hard to find old software - this would fit nicely. There's already some PalmOS software on there, but I suspect you have programs that are not there and deserve being preserved for future generations.

    • @p4nx844
      @p4nx844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      When games are like ~20kb that must truly be a "large repository" LoL

    • @no1DdC
      @no1DdC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@p4nx844 Later PalmOS software is a bit larger though.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      @@no1DdC Seconding the request to upload to Internet Archive. This stuff deserves to be preserved and accessible.

    • @DrBeast2
      @DrBeast2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@LGR if you're desperate for Palm OS apps, check out c4pda.net . Unfortunately, with Palm OS being defunct, it's going to be next to impossible to find any apps these days. Their archive is about as good as it gets.

  • @gkdotclass
    @gkdotclass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    “Fondly” remember how many times PalmOS apps crashed, overwriting other apps memory space (thanks, no memory protection) and needed a hard reset deleting all my data!
    Good times indeed

  • @borealfox
    @borealfox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh, man. I really love this channel. His voice is so relaxing and the topics are really curious and well done.
    Thank you!

  • @MarduLeRoux
    @MarduLeRoux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love these! I have a Palm III myself that I inherited from my uncle, and used it a ton in high school and even university for taking notes.
    At one point it fell out of my pocket while riding a bike, slamming into the road. All that happened was the batteries popped out, requiring a HotSync once getting home. It really is durable!
    It's still on my shelf, occasionally getting dusted off when I feel like playing SubHunt or Space Trader again.
    I didn't know about SimCity for PalmOS though! Will have to try it someday!

    • @chrisbailey7384
      @chrisbailey7384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky you!!! I had a palm pilot exactly like that one back in 2000. When I dropped them on a hard surface, the screen cracked rendering it unusable. Those devices are actually fragile compared to smartphones today if the screen cracks, it's still usable!

  • @fhs4137
    @fhs4137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You just brought a tsunami of nostalgic memories on me. I'm too young to remember a lot of the featured tech on this channel, but my dad had this one early on in my childhood!
    He was supposed to use it to organize his days, but he's an old-school dude, so I think I used it a lot more than he did.
    Honestly, it was such a cool gadget. Looking at it today, it is so ridiculously ahead of it's time. Just look how much it looks like a modern smartphone, at a time where peoples minds were still blown by snake on their Nokias. Both on the outside appearance, as well as the UI and functionality.

  • @Taipan108
    @Taipan108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love how 58008 is already in there when you show the calculator feature. Haha!

  • @Psxmoe
    @Psxmoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember having one of these (palm Version) I also had a handspring PDA running Palm OS, I was in middle school mid 2000's and caused all sorts of trouble when I found out they had Universal Remote Software (Novii Remote I think it was called?) for TVs and VCRs using the infrared port. It was funny watching the teacher get pissed when the tv would turn off randomly or the Vcr paused or fast forwarded randomly. Eventually the teacher wised up, and we were all searched for a "universal Remote". Except they never found one! Because no one knew or thought you could do that back with a PDA. Good times!

    • @JT-lq4yd
      @JT-lq4yd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fun times. Used to do the same when watching videos in high school except, I did that with a Casio watch that could control TVs and VCRs, almost got in trouble once.

  • @TheLtData
    @TheLtData 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love these! I had several Palm devices and used them for a long while before smartphones came along. They still work which can't be said of many old phones.

    • @robbruce2128
      @robbruce2128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I kept that visor running until I got an N900 which ran garnet vm virtual palm.Was dependent on handy shopper.

  • @PeTTs0n88
    @PeTTs0n88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man your videos so often manage to bring me such a warm, fuzzy feeling of nostalgia. From the bottom of my heart - thank you!

  • @Chronosv2
    @Chronosv2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man I loved Space Trader so much. One of my favorite portable games in the late 90s, early 2000s, and an inspiration to me as a game developer. You're making me miss it, LGR!

  • @DavidHoshor
    @DavidHoshor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. I had a Palm device in about 1996 or 97 and loved it! I used one for at least six or seven years. I worked as a system administrator and would use it to make notes for various fixes and procedures on the systems we monitored. I loved that the notes were easily searchable and as close as my shirt pocket. It was easy to get pretty proficient with the Graffiti entry system. After playing Giraffe for about twenty minutes, you'd have the system down pat.

  • @arcadely
    @arcadely 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Me: Hmm, I wonder if there's a version of DOOM for this thing?
    LGR: No, the WorkPad does not run DOOM.
    Dude who wrote DOOM for the Texas Instruments TI-85: Challenge accepted!

    • @jurisjancevskis9076
      @jurisjancevskis9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Porting DOOM to *everything* is a thing now

    • @TCIR
      @TCIR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bet you can port doom to a leaky shower head now

    • @connorsteffan8958
      @connorsteffan8958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TCIR Doom e1m1:water edition

  • @rommelgalicia7283
    @rommelgalicia7283 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Retro hardware review at its best Clint! Had this piece of gear from yesteryear! Really nostalgic video indeed! Looking forward to the next retro hardware review bro'! More power and God bless from the Philippines!

  • @Broxalax
    @Broxalax 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As I watch TH-cam on my TV, I cannot comment to to the restrictions on the media.
    Logged on my phone, just to say thanks.
    I have watched a few videos in the space of a few hours.
    486 build and others.
    Love these videos, I assume I'm about the same age as you, first computer was commodore 64, then 386 33mhz 80mb hhd. Seeing the progress of computers within your channel has brought back so many memories.
    Thank you so much, just wish I had some of the old stuff to send you

  • @DJ88Masterchief
    @DJ88Masterchief 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Now this is nostalgia. This was my iPhone before the iPhone.
    So. Much. Sub Hunt.

  • @SavestateComic
    @SavestateComic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I remember getting one of these around 201X when someone threw theirs out. PDAs really were the digital watch of their time - seems like such a cool convenient idea until you get one then never use it.

    • @AnonymousGentooman
      @AnonymousGentooman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you dont need a digital watch you dont need a watch, they are way better in every way

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I remember trying out a Palm device my mom bought way back in the day because she never used it and it was kind of cool for a bit but then I just never really used it. I remember the stylus text entry being awkward at best and it just didn't feel better than typing or writing not to mention slower. As a portable device it suffered from the same issue as all ambitious portable devices of that era: it was really slow and basic.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had many including the color ones from palm with the arm processors. They got better but were still hampered by poor screen resolution for full page browsing and the processors were still generations away before becoming fast enough to what even a smartphone from 2013 can do today.

    • @tetsujin_144
      @tetsujin_144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a different experience when the technology is current, as opposed to going back to it 10-15 years later.
      Basically, at the time these things were current, they filled a practical niche that made them actually pretty useful. Today they're not very useful from a practical standpoint because most people carry around smart phones which are more powerful and have internet connectivity, so a device that's built around sync cables and regular backups to a PC isn't so useful.
      When the devices were current, they were not powerful by any means but they were very convenient and reliable compared to the alternatives. Battery life was good so you could carry it around and it'd be ready to go when you needed it without constantly needing a recharge.
      If you look back at it now, most of the PDA stuff seems kind of ridiculous - like "offline email" - load your email onto your PDA, read the email, maybe write a response on the go, and then sync up again to actually send the email. Today there's no need, your phone can just access the internet almost anywhere. But at the time, a use case like that could actually be reasonable and useful.

  • @randompalmtopgaming7541
    @randompalmtopgaming7541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was such a treat and perfectly spot on content. Fantastic device..for its time it was absolutely a masterpiece!

  • @mayw6571
    @mayw6571 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Space trader! What an amazing game, it was my introduction to the genre and Elite later on. I must have beaten it a dozen times. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, LGR!

  • @awitelin
    @awitelin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had one of these as a teenager! I bought it for myself and spent so much idle time in classes playing simple games instead of paying attention.

    • @NicoleSteffendesign
      @NicoleSteffendesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too... when you could tell a teacher you were taking notes... but really spending time playing bejeweled.

  • @erebostd
    @erebostd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember having one of these back in university, reading emails & stuff. It was a crazy time,only to be followed to the psion devices during the last years. They were even cooler...

  • @Moonbeam143
    @Moonbeam143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's always fun looking back at old tech, and seeing how far we've come. As much as I feel nostalgic for the old stuff, I'm glad we have the tech we have now.

  • @devourthehours
    @devourthehours 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this two years later to the day. Still so entertaining. Thanks LGR!

  • @vaxel7
    @vaxel7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had a Palm Vx and I remember really liking the Graffiti input once getting used to it, I even had a portable keyboard to it and I used it for taking notes in school with it

  • @AmyraCarter
    @AmyraCarter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yeah, I remember these. I think the one I had, was fitted with a RAM expansion and had some mediocrely ported arcade games like Asteroids and Galaxian. It also had a weird universal remote control app that crashed upon startup (likely because the hot sync function didn't work properly during the transfer), and a multi-function basic and programming calculator app that didn't like dividing by zero. I mostly played Spades on it.

  • @98SE
    @98SE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always!
    I've noticed the new thumbnail template with the LGR logo in the bottom right and I quite like it. :)

  • @milosmarjanovic529
    @milosmarjanovic529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos make me feel like a kid again, I love them :)

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to have a similar PDA, it belonged to my business, yes it’s really made by Palm, using mobile data back in 2000, was like discovering a new invention!

  • @ThomCote88
    @ThomCote88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My dad used to have a Palm III or similar model for work. I remember playing Sub Hunter on it as a kid. It was always so satisfying seeing the mines take little chunks out of the subs lol

  • @Xesh
    @Xesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your reviews! Never stop!

  • @NowUndefined
    @NowUndefined 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great look at this PDA! Thanks LGR!

  • @BackPalSA
    @BackPalSA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    >decided today was an LGR day
    >LGR uploads a new video
    Hell yeah! Thanks, Clint!

    • @suborbitalprocess
      @suborbitalprocess 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it possible to learn this power?

    • @philtkaswahl2124
      @philtkaswahl2124 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suborbitalprocess Well, Clint does try to post a video every Monday and Friday.

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still have my old Palm 3 around somewhere. I remember we attempted to implement using them in the office back in the late 90s, however besides syncing you outlook calendar, emails, contacts and a few apps like keeping track of expenses for taxi rides, lunches etc, it really wasn't a very productive device, but at least it had a few games and it made you feel important when you pulled it out and started scribbling away with the stylus.

  • @o9mb
    @o9mb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I admire all your retro-tech videos (Ps i have watched every LGR video you made also LGR blerbs and Lgr foods!)
    Your biggest fan Fred!!!!

  • @Shory22
    @Shory22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for reviewing this. I remember I had a Palm Pilot.

  • @AlwaysBolttheBird
    @AlwaysBolttheBird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was literally thinking “wonder if it plays doom” right as you said “no doom” haha.

  • @PanzerMan332
    @PanzerMan332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "The WorkPad 20X does not run Doom."
    Modders: *Reality can be whatever I want*

    • @override7486
      @override7486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *ModernVintageGamer enter a chat*

  • @MINERAL-115
    @MINERAL-115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've bought fond memories flooding back!
    I had a palm-powered note-taking device called an "AlphaSmart" back when I was in college, which was powered by Palm OS, and I was so impressed with it I got myself a Palm Z22 personal assistant, which was one of the modern (at the time!) successors to the 20X. I loved that thing so much! My experience with it got me very excited when I saw the initial marketing for the Palm Pre, and if not for getting a second hand iPhone for a good price from a friend, the Palm Pre would have been my first ever smartphone.
    If not for the Palm Pre, Apple would have never 'borrowed' their task switching UI, and the much more mature 'playing card' system we use now on pretty much every modern smartphone would have never came to be!

  • @mxc0bbn
    @mxc0bbn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! lotta memories there. I had a Palm Vx back in the day and I could remember looking down at these puny 2MB variants with my VAST 8MB version. Ahh the ignorance...so bad, yet so sweet.
    Thanks for this...you really make the memories come alive.

  • @sgthebee
    @sgthebee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    PalmOS, my favorite OS! If you can track down Space War, a two-player turn-based strategy game where you pilot various Star Trek ships around a hex grid, it's well worth it.

  • @W0lfenstrike
    @W0lfenstrike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember seeing these (and similar) things from time to time back in the day and indeed the drug game was fairly popular in my school yard.
    Also watching this on a phone is quite a bit surreal, makes me appreciate how far we've come technologically and it makes me feel old.

    • @digiowl9599
      @digiowl9599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And i can't shake the feel that we lost something along the way.

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@digiowl9599 A certain level of charm that smartphones are incapable of replicating.

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back in my day we would always play our edgy games as flash games on web browsers.

  • @chadBonvie1989
    @chadBonvie1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "in sync' slips in an LGR Easter egg!! You're the best man, keep up the videos.

  • @piratesmvp
    @piratesmvp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Palm Viiix and still like playing old games on it from time to time. It's amazing how a device from the late 90's actually has some features that many modern smartphones do not have.

  • @blafsen
    @blafsen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah the good old PDA trend of the 90's

  • @IbunWest
    @IbunWest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember playing tons of Space Trader when I got a hand-me-down PDA from my dad. It was a nice way to bridge the gap between the OG Game Boy and the Game Boy Advance.

    • @theelectricindian
      @theelectricindian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Theres a version of space trader for android

  • @lazydragon2551
    @lazydragon2551 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeeess. Videos about old tech from the late 70's to early 2000's always make me happy. This is no exception.

  • @brokenrobot2004
    @brokenrobot2004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was obsessed with my dad's one of these when I was little.. I LOVED the backlight's soft blue-green and black look; I'm glad to see you've made a video of it. I love your content LGR, I hope that if you ever decide stop making these videos, it won't be anytime soon 😄 I'm an autistic fellow (diagnosed) who loves tech like this; Palm PDAs were always a favorite! Especially the monochrome display ones, I find I'm glued to anything with a monochrome LCD display and always have been!

  • @srh76able
    @srh76able 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    3:32 has the ubiquitous "boobs" calculator easter egg as is generally the case with LGR calculator videos. Love it.

  • @SinKillerJ
    @SinKillerJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always found the HotSync sound to be so oddly satisfying.

  • @Kurisu87
    @Kurisu87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Space trader! A game a played for hours and hours on my palm M105 as a kid. I have never been able to remember it’s name! Man, that very short clip gave such a nostalgic rush of emotion! Cheers man.

  • @DogScience
    @DogScience 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with lays potato chips, cartoons on, and the sound of grandma humming in the background as she works her way through the crossword puzzle at the table; they’re comfortable childhood bliss. Thank you.

  • @misterschifano
    @misterschifano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like someone somewhere in LGR nation is actively at work porting DOOM as we speak.

  • @jirt36
    @jirt36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saludos desde México LGR, te queremos mucho!

  • @drewpeer
    @drewpeer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude this one was fantastic! Thanks!

  • @Malnash014
    @Malnash014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the walk down memory lane :) still remember using my IR keyboard to write my assignments :)

  • @liliwinnt6
    @liliwinnt6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    4:45 abandoned railway? i'm interested about this place

    • @dashboss556
      @dashboss556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That had my attention as well.

    • @RailVentures
      @RailVentures 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does LGR ever answer comments? I would like to know where these tracks are as well!

    • @liliwinnt6
      @liliwinnt6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RailVentures maybe those replies are too much for him to reply, now we would need enough people to ask about that railway, then we can have the answer

    • @RailVentures
      @RailVentures 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well hopefully LGR's not too big for us little people! LOL

    • @SlimBarista
      @SlimBarista 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RailVentures He does reply to comments quite often

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Finally, some Linus style B-roll footage.

  • @UNIRockLIVE
    @UNIRockLIVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of these. Pirated all the software and loved it

  • @tsunamirider9895
    @tsunamirider9895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Brought back lots of memories (especially the sounds the thing makes when HotSyncing). I had a Palm III back in the day, and also had the little 14.4k modem that docked to the bottom of it (also required batteries). Was kinda cool back when dialup was a thing, and your ISP would have local numbers you could call all over the country. When going on business trips, could just connect the Palm III w/modem to the hotel room phone to pick up emai, etc. Thought that was mind-blowingly cool at the time. Also had a version of VNC but visible area was so limited it was pretty useless (cool technically though) and running Telnet (of course unencrypted). Amazing how far technology has come.

  • @matt4193
    @matt4193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I ALMOST HAD A HEART ATTACK WHEN THE PDA STARTED SLIPPIN'

  • @TemeringPick
    @TemeringPick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    3:33 nice

  • @josephperkins9535
    @josephperkins9535 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good stuffs as always. thanks for the infotainment

  • @Zeasnik
    @Zeasnik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top shelf content as always!

  • @4Wilko
    @4Wilko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "IBM desktops and IBM servers and IBM IBM mlenuneh!"
    That's a nice subtitle.

  • @KennethDPedersen
    @KennethDPedersen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was literally typing out “But will it play Doom” and you said that

  • @mr.pavone9719
    @mr.pavone9719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Handspring Visor got me through college. Kept track of all my classes and assignments, was my alarm clock and calculator, calendar, etc etc etc.
    It was basically this thing. I loved it.

  • @nerdmeister2
    @nerdmeister2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these Palm devices, incredibly useful things. I fondly remember maintaining our SGI Challenge servers back then via telnet/ssh and the cradle plugged in their serial ports... 9600N1 :)

  • @CB-pf5lb
    @CB-pf5lb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    6:08 Please, tell me that Goku isn't only in my head.

    • @matcha6710
      @matcha6710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, I saw it too

    • @CB-pf5lb
      @CB-pf5lb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matcha6710 Thank you!

    • @matcha6710
      @matcha6710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CB-pf5lb Maybe we're both crazy XD

    • @CB-pf5lb
      @CB-pf5lb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matcha6710 ...T-That's a possibility.

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thinkpads are so classic

  • @metalheadmalta
    @metalheadmalta 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this and only stopped using it a few years ago. Kept it on my desk and simply used it for adding to do stuff and addresses / numbers. I still have it of course, and takes pride of place in my 'museum'.

  • @stridermt2k
    @stridermt2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a Palm guy back in the day. I worked a job that allowed me to get some pretty nice ones from both Plam and Sorny.
    Good stuff, and a nostalgic look back at a very interesting era in mobile computing.

  • @WinXP_SP1
    @WinXP_SP1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You didn't play Serious Sam on PDA?! still love the video though

    • @LGR
      @LGR  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Its 2-bit monochrome screen and tiny amounts of CPU speed and memory are rather _serious_ constraints!

    • @WinXP_SP1
      @WinXP_SP1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LGR You're a funny man LGR.

  • @davidfee6972
    @davidfee6972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:09 I straight up lol'd !!! XD

  • @ROFLCOPTERS92
    @ROFLCOPTERS92 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few years ago, I collected tons of these. I loved playing with them!

  • @TheBr00talhamster
    @TheBr00talhamster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks fun to play around with those little games. It also seems really compact, simple and functional for its time.

  • @TechBoyy-us2zh
    @TechBoyy-us2zh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:00
    That game reminds me of the old iPods.

  • @Arbiter099
    @Arbiter099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:02 you know the rules, if a port does not exist it shall be necessary to create one

  • @campisimike
    @campisimike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man Clint, when you did the sync button, that little sync tone brought back memories!!!

  • @fredthesecond
    @fredthesecond 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic to see that. I used (and do still own) a Palm IIIe (transparent version) and a Palm m505 back in the day and they were both a pleasure to use. I think I enjoyed using them more than I do the subsequent mobile phones I've owned since then. Perhaps that's because of the straightforward and uncomplicated software implementation, the usefulness of that software but at least in part because I was the only person I knew that used one. Now everyone uses a mobile phone and uses pretty much the same software - I did enjoy that uniqueness the device held for me as a personal organiser.