143 THOUSAND Views in 9 Days! Wow, Humberto, you are onto something that is of significant interest apparently. It would be great to invite Dr. Ramsey for an interview to discuss his current thinking about the total mite diet. Before his studies, it was thought the mites fed on hemolymph alone. I think that would be a great update/conversation. This is a great topic, thanks for the update!
Just some quick thoughts, Foundress mites needs massive amounts of certain proteins to store to produce her eggs, she get this from feeding fat body tissue outside the cell, her eggs weigh more 1/2 her body weight each, thus once the cell is capped she has to feed on fluids inside cell to make the eggs, much like chickens all the eggs are different stages of growth and the shell comes last, we know all the fluids put inside cell is royal jelly, she hibernates hiding in it underneath the larva for a few days before the cell is capped, she might be absorbing nutrients and fluid from the jelly in this stage growing her eggs to a midpoint, she mated with brother to become fertile and can carry about 36 eggs total, in final stages she needs more hemalymph than fat body proteins to finish the eggs, to me this makes logic since the total weight of 4 eggs she produces (1 male and 3 females) is around 3 times her body weight.
I don't think there is controversy about the science. The scientific community in Canada has confirmed the results of Dr. Ramsey and has also added another chapter to the story. The controversy arises from people being angry at me when I tried to point out that Varroa might also feed on hemolymph in different scenarios. I have encountered people who were really angry with me multiple times, which is very weird.
Could it be a threat to a hope for a solution… which is a threat to ‘safety’? The more we uncover that is different, the more we think we have to go back to the drawing board for a solution. I think that could be a fear response rather than thinking that we are one step closer to collectively figuring out a solution
sadly i've seen this a lot. certain people do not want science or industry to solve the problem. its a belief that some backyard beek will find the cure by trail an error.@@InsideTheHiveTV
I stopped using chemical’s in 2007 / 8 to control the varroa mites so the bees have learned to live with the varroa mite. I find I can split hives in the spring to make any losses that I have. I have open mesh Floors so plenty of air in the hive and not so much condensation and bees can remove the varroa might through the floor. I am wondering if the varroa might might be tolerated by the bees because they are doing some useful like job of cleaning the bees ( so are their smaller insects on the bees that are not visible to the human eye also we get brain washed by the chemical companies to keep playing with their chemicals when nature can find ways to correct the problems.
@InsideTheHiveTV Last time I looked, I found a handful of studies on pubmed, but the conclusion was we don't know enough to conclude if the mushroom extract was what was actually what was helping. With the leading idea being either nutrition or that they act the same way medical mushroom do in humans. Either way there just isn't enough research to draw conclusive conclusion.
Excellent Humberto, really interesting topic and learned lots about varroa feeding on fat bodies and hemolymph at different honey bee life stages . Also, your explanation of scientific method was inspiring and reminded me of a quote, that greatest quality for a researcher is humility- to acknowledge that we may be wrong and look for new possibilities
How many types of mites are they. I have never had mites,we don't have it here on the island. Our bane is wax months. They will destroy a hive in no time.
People get mad when you poke their favorite theory. Been a problem in science forever. As for me I just want to learn the best ways to keep my honeybees alive. If that means hopping on one foot and touching my nose then so be it.
Don't knock the science, Dr. Sammy moved us one big step out of the cloud surrounding Varroa, science is always a learning curve, for many centuries people earth was flat and the sun revolved around it till Caperniicus studied the stars and wrote the theory of heliocentisity and even then it was only published 42 days after his death.
I have a question. I know a lot of bee keepers pull as muck honey as possible then feed sugar water to get stores in the hive for winter. I know that many hives make it thru till spring with this method. My question is, has there ever been a study dune on the health of overwintered hives that fed on sugarsurip storage versus natural honey. I would think honey would be more nutritious and a better rounded food source than sugarsurip. Thus, I would think bees feeding on honey would come out of winter with more numbers,better health (colonie wise), and build up faster than one on sugarsurip. Any reply to this will be appreciated
Bob Binnie has some stuff on it. Dont quote me at all but he says something along the lines if you feed syrup doing pollen/flow they put nutrients they need in the syrup. The honey causes more cleansing flights needed or something the syrup is easier on their gut. It's all carbs. I was surprised to see it when I did but I think he touches on it a couple times when speaking to groups.
My understanding is the foundress mites hide and hibernate behind the larva, upside down in the royal jelly until the cell in capped usually about 3 to 4 days, I'm wondering if she absorbs nutrients and moisture during this cycle.
Great information! Thank you! Unfortunately, hatred is spread all over the world, especially among some beekeepers, and scientists, in Eastern Europe where I live 🙁 Nevertheless, keep your channel going! You’ve got a new subscriber! 😊
@@InsideTheHiveTV appreciate you putting in the time and effort to build something like this for such a niche hobby. You deserve to be filthy rich w youtube shekels
The key to good science is to question 'Why', and consider all possibilities. I hope that through research, we can find a solution to the eradication of the Varroa mite. Thank you Dr H
What would be the solution, is it diet or something else? I get it that its the fatbodies that get targeted in mayority cases? Pls dont hate on me, just try to understand for an upcoming schoolpresentation 🙏
You want to get hate mail, point out that any method that kills most mites then allows them to breed back will favor quicker breeding mites with more offspring. Just the sort of mite that will kill a colony instead of just taxing it. I have little hope for a miticide, I look to resistant bees or a mite predator or disease. Something that can react to changes in the mite.
You would think insect researchers knew this and would advise accordingly. But no. These people, researchers, and channels thrive on fear mongering and the treatment treadmill.
Excellent.... so this opens up lots of new ideas... like getting some form of biotechnology into the bees blood that kills the mites ? It's fascinating
FOr the hard-of-thinking, it was concerning what makes for good or bad science and the way the public, including you, fail to understand or follow it in favour of emotional and tribal responses along lines that are artificial.
The is only one kind of science. "Bad science" is not science at all. Science has zero to do with emotion. How the world reacts to science may involve emotion but that has nothing to do with science. The topic of the presentation was concerning how varroa mites feed on honey bees. If he was not whining in the opening he was certainly off topic. @@TheBaconWizard
Varroa dont want to kill honey bees, they need the colony to live so the varroa can also live. No bees no mites it just take time for them to live in harmany but we keep treating them with chemicals to distrupting the cycle of life
Parasites are classified as such because they predate on a species while providing zero benefit. These mites only desire is feeding and reproduction until there is no food source left.
@@nsfjojo yea man leave it to nature to sort out will would loose 70% off all honey bees but after that they would come back strong and we wouldnt need to treat, but this would take 4 years to sort out.
That may only be possible after hundreds of years of evolution for Apis mellifera (if at all). Since varroa is invasive, it’s not a natural occurrence that has slowly happened over centuries. It drastically changes the whole ecosystem and will have lasting effects both upstream and downstream. As you suggest, there will be an equilibrium at some point long term, but that doesn’t guarantee that apis mellifera will still be alive after the equilibrium.
143 THOUSAND Views in 9 Days! Wow, Humberto, you are onto something that is of significant interest apparently. It would be great to invite Dr. Ramsey for an interview to discuss his current thinking about the total mite diet. Before his studies, it was thought the mites fed on hemolymph alone. I think that would be a great update/conversation. This is a great topic, thanks for the update!
Thanks. I’m finally learning the TH-cam secrets. :)
Just some quick thoughts, Foundress mites needs massive amounts of certain proteins to store to produce her eggs, she get this from feeding fat body tissue outside the cell, her eggs weigh more 1/2 her body weight each, thus once the cell is capped she has to feed on fluids inside cell to make the eggs, much like chickens all the eggs are different stages of growth and the shell comes last, we know all the fluids put inside cell is royal jelly, she hibernates hiding in it underneath the larva for a few days before the cell is capped, she might be absorbing nutrients and fluid from the jelly in this stage growing her eggs to a midpoint, she mated with brother to become fertile and can carry about 36 eggs total, in final stages she needs more hemalymph than fat body proteins to finish the eggs, to me this makes logic since the total weight of 4 eggs she produces (1 male and 3 females) is around 3 times her body weight.
@@carlsledge3868 Great to see your comment! Also interested in Humberto's response.
Thanks!
Thanks!! That really helps keep the computer running .
Excellent scientific method, but even better thought processes for productive future testing!
What I do not understand is my bees do not have verona mites. My problem is wax moths.
Wax moths usually take hold when other thing are. Going wrong look at ways to keep your equipment sealed and clean up any loose wax
do you check for mites ?
Yes I did an no mites. Bee sugar test and no mite at all. @@notyourblonde
Why are people so upset about the science done here to show a difference in mite diet? I don’t understand the controversy.
I don't think there is controversy about the science. The scientific community in Canada has confirmed the results of Dr. Ramsey and has also added another chapter to the story. The controversy arises from people being angry at me when I tried to point out that Varroa might also feed on hemolymph in different scenarios. I have encountered people who were really angry with me multiple times, which is very weird.
That is very weird. That part I don’t understand. Is there a threat to authority or philosophy that I don’t see?
Could it be a threat to a hope for a solution… which is a threat to ‘safety’? The more we uncover that is different, the more we think we have to go back to the drawing board for a solution. I think that could be a fear response rather than thinking that we are one step closer to collectively figuring out a solution
sadly i've seen this a lot. certain people do not want science or industry to solve the problem. its a belief that some backyard beek will find the cure by trail an error.@@InsideTheHiveTV
I stopped using chemical’s in 2007 / 8 to control the varroa mites so the bees have learned to live with the varroa mite. I find I can split hives in the spring to make any losses that I have. I have open mesh Floors so plenty of air in the hive and not so much condensation and bees can remove the varroa might through the floor. I am wondering if the varroa might might be tolerated by the bees because they are doing some useful like job of cleaning the bees ( so are their smaller insects on the bees that are not visible to the human eye also we get brain washed by the chemical companies to keep playing with their chemicals when nature can find ways to correct the problems.
Have you read any of Paul Stamets research about bees and mycelium? I believe you would both benefit from meeting each other.
Only one study. I want to see other researcher repeating the experiments and getting the same results.
@InsideTheHiveTV Last time I looked, I found a handful of studies on pubmed, but the conclusion was we don't know enough to conclude if the mushroom extract was what was actually what was helping. With the leading idea being either nutrition or that they act the same way medical mushroom do in humans. Either way there just isn't enough research to draw conclusive conclusion.
Excellent Humberto, really interesting topic and learned lots about varroa feeding on fat bodies and hemolymph at different honey bee life stages . Also, your explanation of scientific method was inspiring and reminded me of a quote, that greatest quality for a researcher is humility- to acknowledge that we may be wrong and look for new possibilities
Thanks Ray. I love the feedback and the knowledge thta the work is bringing value to people.
Thank you for great information
How many types of mites are they. I have never had mites,we don't have it here on the island. Our bane is wax months. They will destroy a hive in no time.
Great science! Go bees!!❤
Agreed!
hello, do I know if I can share your videos by making a voice response in another language, regards
excellent as always Humberto, thank you.
My pleasure!
Thank you!
1:30. From the responses you received, it is obvious that there are a lot of crazy people, including crazy beekeepers😂😂
People get mad when you poke their favorite theory. Been a problem in science forever. As for me I just want to learn the best ways to keep my honeybees alive. If that means hopping on one foot and touching my nose then so be it.
We all agree with that
I learn more about bees almost every day and it means dropping some info that wasnt true that i believed for 40 yrs
He sucks my friend , he is a stupid so called professor
Let's keep learning but do use the scientific method
Don't knock the science, Dr. Sammy moved us one big step out of the cloud surrounding Varroa, science is always a learning curve, for many centuries people earth was flat and the sun revolved around it till Caperniicus studied the stars and wrote the theory of heliocentisity and even then it was only published 42 days after his death.
Dr. Zak Lamas, drones another piece
Good stuff and timely!
Glad you liked it!
I have a question. I know a lot of bee keepers pull as muck honey as possible then feed sugar water to get stores in the hive for winter. I know that many hives make it thru till spring with this method. My question is, has there ever been a study dune on the health of overwintered hives that fed on sugarsurip storage versus natural honey. I would think honey would be more nutritious and a better rounded food source than sugarsurip. Thus, I would think bees feeding on honey would come out of winter with more numbers,better health (colonie wise), and build up faster than one on sugarsurip. Any reply to this will be appreciated
Bob Binnie has some stuff on it. Dont quote me at all but he says something along the lines if you feed syrup doing pollen/flow they put nutrients they need in the syrup. The honey causes more cleansing flights needed or something the syrup is easier on their gut. It's all carbs. I was surprised to see it when I did but I think he touches on it a couple times when speaking to groups.
We get a late goldenrod pollen/flow some dont collect but a good time to fill up hives. Obviously not to be collected.
feed on larvae: exactly! when in development of a honeybee is haemolymph developing ..? Are the foundress mites in cells have a fasting period ??
My understanding is the foundress mites hide and hibernate behind the larva, upside down in the royal jelly until the cell in capped usually about 3 to 4 days, I'm wondering if she absorbs nutrients and moisture during this cycle.
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true words, thank you for your commitment in bees and increasing knowledge
Thanks for watching!
But what about viruses spread by mites? Shrunken wing, afb?
What about them?
whenever you say "adult bee" i hear 'apple bee'
So can you feed a pesticides that kills mite and not bee itself
That is what many researchers are trying to do for decades. Not easy task.
Doc don’t ever listen to the haters.
It needs a long bee pupation period. A cold thin walled hive gives it to them by increasing the puparion period by up to 3 days.
Great information! Thank you! Unfortunately, hatred is spread all over the world, especially among some beekeepers, and scientists, in Eastern Europe where I live 🙁 Nevertheless, keep your channel going! You’ve got a new subscriber! 😊
Welcome
Thank you! Best regards!
Bro you have gotten amazing at putting your videos together.
I appreciate that!
@@InsideTheHiveTV appreciate you putting in the time and effort to build something like this for such a niche hobby. You deserve to be filthy rich w youtube shekels
Sounds reasonable. Must be the mechanism that makes brood breaks work so well. Great video!
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Unfortunately that's where the world is today, "I haven't considered that idea, therefore you must be wrong." Wait. What?!? Thanks for the video.
The key to good science is to question 'Why', and consider all possibilities. I hope that through research, we can find a solution to the eradication of the Varroa mite. Thank you Dr H
Who axed the comment regarding using Stratiolaelaps?
What would be the solution, is it diet or something else? I get it that its the fatbodies that get targeted in mayority cases?
Pls dont hate on me, just try to understand for an upcoming schoolpresentation 🙏
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You want to get hate mail, point out that any method that kills most mites then allows them to breed back will favor quicker breeding mites with more offspring. Just the sort of mite that will kill a colony instead of just taxing it. I have little hope for a miticide, I look to resistant bees or a mite predator or disease. Something that can react to changes in the mite.
You would think insect researchers knew this and would advise accordingly. But no. These people, researchers, and channels thrive on fear mongering and the treatment treadmill.
Like l wrote before, answers, dear scientists.. we don't need more questions. That's what you need
Excellent.... so this opens up lots of new ideas... like getting some form of biotechnology into the bees blood that kills the mites ? It's fascinating
Like an immune system?
@@lordmike9384 yes
"Biotechnology" is NOT the answer to anything & will lead to our downfall
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I am not sure what your initial section on comments you receive have to do with beekeeping. It sounded more like whining.
FOr the hard-of-thinking, it was concerning what makes for good or bad science and the way the public, including you, fail to understand or follow it in favour of emotional and tribal responses along lines that are artificial.
The is only one kind of science. "Bad science" is not science at all. Science has zero to do with emotion. How the world reacts to science may involve emotion but that has nothing to do with science. The topic of the presentation was concerning how varroa mites feed on honey bees. If he was not whining in the opening he was certainly off topic. @@TheBaconWizard
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Seems to me that sometimes varroa aren't the worst thing, but people are :(
I'm sorry you recieved hate-mail, that is appaling.
Varroa dont want to kill honey bees, they need the colony to live so the varroa can also live. No bees no mites it just take time for them to live in harmany but we keep treating them with chemicals to distrupting the cycle of life
Bro, having had colony collapse due to mites, i think the mites are yoloing cuz they know I'll just buy more bees each season they dngaf
Parasites are classified as such because they predate on a species while providing zero benefit. These mites only desire is feeding and reproduction until there is no food source left.
@@nsfjojo yea man leave it to nature to sort out will would loose 70% off all honey bees but after that they would come back strong and we wouldnt need to treat, but this would take 4 years to sort out.
That may only be possible after hundreds of years of evolution for Apis mellifera (if at all). Since varroa is invasive, it’s not a natural occurrence that has slowly happened over centuries. It drastically changes the whole ecosystem and will have lasting effects both upstream and downstream. As you suggest, there will be an equilibrium at some point long term, but that doesn’t guarantee that apis mellifera will still be alive after the equilibrium.
@@lawrencechen6067 insects evolve thousands times quicker then humans
So?