Little did I know after randomly searching the internet for more info on my newly discovered Enneagram Type 1 that I would come across this truth bomb to my heart. Probably a God thing, to be honest....I've been really struggling lately with expecting perfection of everyone around me and then being always disappointed and angry....and here I found something that speaks right to that. Thank you for giving me perspective, so powerful.
Type 1 & A ENFJ-A 😌 I'm not much a religious person but I find it fairly interesting. I surprisingly cried with ur story in the beginning about the father & son. It was beautiful.
So good and spot on. Before I clicked on the video (I'm a 1) I said "oh geesh another pastor making church about us" yeah I got a big help of humble pie. Thank you.
This sermon was such a blessing!!! But these are the bible verses, that at least for me as a Perfectionist, bring me hope. Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among the people, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.” And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” Then He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give water to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life, without cost. The one who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. Revelation 21:1-7 NASB2020
Thank you for posting these. I didn't do the personality diagnostic; but as a recovering addict, I went from a fool to mostly a 1 when God changed me. I found myself harvesting resentment towards the world and my old friends because God woke me up and they stayed being idiots. I also struggle with condemning myself for my past and how foolish I was/can be at times. Praying to forgive the world also helped me forgive myself . Because people must have been as mad at me at one point as I've become with others . And if I can forgive them, I can also let the pain of my past go entirely. It also helped me connect with God on a deeper level, because my Idea of God and his perfection is only my perception , And my perception is flawed, his perfection is not. So I let go of my conception of him and prayed he would show me more of who he really is to my heart. My biggest struggle is turning off my intellect, and opening my heart to the holy spirits intuition. This video helped with some of that . God bless. From Minnesota
Just yesterday I was crying with a friend and telling her that I feel like the Prodigal son's older brother. Like I do everything I'm supposed to and my life looks nothing like what I thought it would look like and I'm really exhausted. Then today I randomly took the test and saw that I'm type 1 and found this message. Just had to smile at how God is speaking to me through this message. Thank you!
I’m a 1 😩 I drive the speed limit and honk at people who cut me off. I pray that Jesus helps me with my anger and then I ran into this helpful video. Thank you so much. THANK YOU JESUS.
Though the enneagram was created under dubious circumstances this definitely has so much truth to it! As a 1 this whole talk resonated so strongly. I am so glad that there are God centered people out there who are discussing physiology and yet presenting it in a biblical approach. Blessings.
You're saying demons can tell the truth and offer us useful advice. This is false. The Enneagram has been proven useless by psychologists and is classified as astrology minus birthdays. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/people-are-strange/201909/when-personality-test-results-are-wrong-feel-so-right www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1
From Jay Medenwaldt's second part of the scientific dismantling of the Enneagram: "So why is it that such a questionable tool could be so helpful for so many people? The short answer is that our thinking is governed by quick thinking mechanisms that make life easy for us, but unfortunately, they also lead us astray sometimes. A good book on the subject is Thinking, Fast and Slow." It's important to know how our minds actually work and why we're open to poorly constructed theories like the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). 2 Timothy 4:3-4 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
This just spoke to me. As I am getting ready for college, I realize what comes out a lot is anger. And life not being fair in sports, grades, service, and work. But this just explained why I am angry and how I can now take control. Thank you so much
Wow so spot on, and i thank God everyday that he has been by my side guiding me and helping me with the changes necessary to accept that everyone is different and in so many ways, i have come along ways, thank you for the reading
I've learned to differentiate between my will and God's will. I would have all people be the best they could be at all times. Everyone would be held accountable and justice would be swift upon them. But then there would be no forgiveness, or grace, or mercy. I cannot be right all the time, not always am I patient enough to withhold judgement. But I know that God is forgiving and patient, so I strive to be the same whenever possible.
Thank you! I am a pastor who discovered the enneagram in the last year. You did a beautiful, and I might add Spirit guided job with this. God bless you as you reach more for Jesus and help us all live as we were designed!
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
Dear Christians please do your research. The personality part of the enneagram was added through automatic writing an occult practice. There are videos on TH-cam that document this in the creators own words. Please do your research!!!!
Bonnie Noll it’s good to know where things came from but at the same time, is it not possible for God to have victory even over this? To use what was intended for evil for HIS own glory?
I rebuke you Satan... you're not funny!!!... this is not Bible this is a false teacher... hes deceiving and being deceived... Jesus said come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing again. This man has a form of God but deny the power there of... I pray you come to the saving knowledge of Jesus.
lol on our honeymoon my 1 husband picked a fight because I took a muffin for lunch instead of the banana (we packed lunches to save money). When he planned the meals the muffin was for breakfast and the banana for lunch (because you MUST have a fruit and vegetable with each meal, breakfast is the exception)...It's been 10 years and sometimes I get away with putting two vegetables in the main dish....there are lots of rules lololol
All we need is in the Bible and knowing God is enough. You may want to tune into "Enneagram Christian Perspective | How it's DANGEROUS" by Kap Chapfield its a must watch video!
I’m really appreciating the sermon series! Thanks for posting. I lean towards a 1 and I think the core sin thing isn’t quite right. Anger is an emotion, not a sin. Even Jesus was angry. I think from looking at my own tendencies criticalness and judgement (which could, for some, lead to rage or bitterness or gossip) are closer to the target.
Jill, I have been asking God about my anger because as a 1, I was having a hard time finding sin in my life (which sounds so snobby as I type that) but he kept bringing me back to Anger. Anger is the root of my sin as it causes me to start judging others, then getting SO angry at things I can't fix in people that I fly into a rage (like at my kids) or I get in the car and gossip about what everyone is doing wrong and get bitter because no one sees my right. The root is anger. I am angry that no one sees things like I see them. So yes, anger is the root of sin in my life. I agree with what you say that anger is not a sin, but for me, I am learning that anger causes me to sin in my heart. I may not go out and get drunk, but I sure can judge those that do...both are sin.
While anger is an emotion, he actually said that allowing your anger to CONTROL YOUR FOLLOWING actions is the sin. In your case, maybe the gossiping but being judgmental, critical of others and having self righteousness are some others he listed. He is actually spot on with the core sin.
I think we need to remember that the enneagram has been around for so long. He did not make this up. Even non Christians use this. Instead of the word "sin", think of it as your weakness.
@@rebeccad.8120 False. The Enneagram's "ancient" origins were a lie by Claudio Naranjo to make it more popular, and people have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. The Enneagram has absolutely no scientific value, mainstream psychologists (read: not New Agers) have often never even heard of it because no credible colleges/universities teach it www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1
Also, "Instead of the word "sin", think of it as your weakness" is a completely unbiblical perspective. The Bible tells us "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". Trying to downplay the gravity of our sin is not good.
we are not sinners. we create situations to learn from them. we are all love. we are perfectly imperfect (so that there is room for learning and coming closer to god). god is never angry. anger is ego and god has none. love to all of you divine creations.
Thank you for this! A series on each number of the enneagram is exactly the perfect way to introduce people to this tool for authentically loving and knowing each other! This makes a better body! -an excelling 1
Claim: It seems that the Enneagram is a useful tool. It is a tool for transformation, understanding, self-knowledge, growth, discernment. Response: The Enneagram uses a lot of terms that are undefined, including the term “tool”. In fact, no book or teaching on the Enneagram even attempts to define what is meant by “tool”, but instead depends on the audience for understanding. One must guess the meaning, and assuming “tool” means something for making tasks easier, one should be able to measure how well it makes them easier. If it facilitates discernment, then it must be possible to know and test how it facilitates discernment, or how it does not do so, and to what degree. In order to evaluate the usefulness of a tool, one must measure whether the tool caused a measurable effect on the task at hand or not. The enneagram itself does not measure self-knowledge or discernment, so an external tool must be used to measure these things. External may mean the person undergoing the process of discernment or knowing of oneself, but this is a subjective not an objective view. Self-reporting on one’s subjective feelings about how much change has occurred is not reliable and subject to error, and even self-deception. Understanding and discernment entail the use of reason and judgement, and in order to facilitate that, clear terms, sound judgements and valid conclusions should be abundant. However, the Enneagram has numerous vague concepts, unsound propositions, and invalid conclusions that don’t follow from their premises.
I feel like I always tried to be a 1 but I got jealous the other people could do what ever they wanted and get away with it. I really wish I seen this message a long time ago. I need to stop putting all the focus on my self & my own selfish desire. I know I feel better when I do the right thing. I only do the wrong thing out of spite. Jesus please help me get better with this.
As a 1,I'm afraid that I will not make the world better and that people will not forgive me my errors. Both make me very angry, especially since I'm working SO HARD to be good to everyone.... so how can everything I contribute be ignored and I be rejected? It isn't fair! God, the life of a goody good is wearing me out... please help me grow in grace, and please send some more grace my way also. P.S. I'm suspicious of those who haven't edited their comments - are you sure you're really a 1? :P
I'm Muslim, I enjoyed your preaching I can relate to it in Islam as Islam came to correct and complete not to create something different. We pray to the same God; may he bless you all.
Thank you for your willingness to reply. I believe that Christians also need to understand that God is completing, not making something different. It’s His story, we just play a role in His story. God never needs to start again. He always gets it right. Anyway, thanks for replying... I appreciate your insight, and willingness to remain open minded and brave. The world needs more of people like yourself. May God bless you as well...
Hi T_Meyah! I am a Christian and I must speak truthfully that we do not worship the same God. My God is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is Jesus, the Messiah, Who not only died for all of our sins but rose from the dead in victory over sin, hell, and the grave. I know we do not serve the same God because my God is love! I don't have to perform to earn His love, I don't have to wonder and be insecure if I am loved and forgiven by Him or if I'm going to heaven. I have *certainty* of His great love! I have the *sure hope and faithful promise* of heaven awaiting me. I pray with all my heart that you come face-to-face with the God of the universe, the King of Kings, Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world! God bless you in JESUS name:)
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
"...We gonna use this tool to help God begin to teach you about yourself..." :-D :-D The product helping the manufacturer to understand it :-D :-D This one issa no!
I am very surprised that this is going around the church due to its origins being with the occult. this absolutely breaks my heart and I hope people do more research and find out the truth about the enneagram and how it is based on the occult and this is not godly.
Just a heads up... The Enneagram is not a Christian tool. It was created by New Agers who used a spiritually dangerous ritual called "automatic writing". My advice would be to listen to Preachers who preach from the Bible without the assistance of tools from New Age cults. Not saying this preacher is the devil, but at the very least he is misguided. Don't be misled too!
I encourage you to listen to the precursor to this series: Why God Wants You to Love Yourself. th-cam.com/video/ykydJ4kbqGA/w-d-xo.html He's not using the enneagram to teach the Bible, he's using the Bible to teach the enneagram in a different light. Despite the enneagram's origins, it holds truth to it regarding psychology and how our minds work. He utilizes a tool that is often misinterpreted and misused to reach different types of people.
@@kaleightodd9873 Actually, it does not hold any truth regarding psychology and how our minds work. 150 mental health experts were polled in a study (Koocher, et al, 2014) and called the Enneagram the 2nd most-discredited tool behind the Szondi test. The International Encyclopedia of the Social Sciences called MBTI, the Enneagram and other typologies "a form of divination" (not a Christian text). Patrick Vermeren is an HR expert who has close relationships with many psychologists in order to find best practices for hiring employees. He wrote a book on the subject that is hard to find, but he was generous enough to post his chapter on the Enneagram freely on the book's website. The chapter is entitled "Myth 8: The enneagram can teach us something about our personality." Jay Medenwaldt is a PhD candidate in psychology at Baylor U and has made the Enneagram part of his dissertation. He uses actual, useful information on how our minds work and has stated multiple times that the Enneagram should not be used. His latest post on his personal website concludes: "The overwhelming majority of scientific evidence shows that the enneagram does not accurately describe how people are, how they think, how they act, or how they grow. It has negative effects that are often overlooked while most of its apparent positive effects can be explained through other psychological mechanisms." So who should I trust? Laypeople like Matt Brown, who have not studied psychology at any level, much less a Masters or PhD? Or the huge majority of MA/PhDs in Psychology who either mock the Enneagram, or have never even heard of it because it's not actually taught by any serious institutions? Or maybe I should listen to Helen Palmer, who IS a PhD in psychology, but also claims to have psychic powers/ESP? LOL. No thanks. Medenwaldt and another PhD, Jennifer Fayard, even admitted there was a time they believed in stuff like the Enneagram or MBTI or whatever "typology", but once they had to take more challenging courses and do hard research on the human mind and behavior, they realized why it was bogus. I think we would be wiser to listen to people like them. OH, and the origins are completely occultic. LOLOLOL. But yeah, such a wonderful, compassionate tool.
The Enneagrams origin with Gurdjieff and Shaykh Abdullah of Naqshbandi Sufi Order: Shaykh Sharafuddin (q) asked Shaykh `Abdullah (q) to host their guest. Shaykh `Abdullah recounted the events of the meeting to several of his murids many years later. As soon as they met, Shaykh `Abdullah said, "You are interested in the knowledge of the Nine Points. We can speak on it in the morning after Fajr prayer. Now you eat something and rest." At Fajr time Shaykh `Abdullah called Gurdjieff to come and pray with him. As soon as the prayer finished, the Shaykh began to recite Surat Ya Sin from the Holy Qur'an. As he finished reading, Gurdjieff approached him and asked if he could speak of what he had just experienced. Gurdjieff said: Through your spiritual power I was able to ascend to the knowledge of the power of the Nine Points. Then a voice, addressing me as `Abd an-Nur, said: 'This light and knowledge have been granted to you from the Divine Presence of Allah to bring peace to your heart. However, you must not use the power of this knowledge.' The voice bid me farewell with the salutation of Peace and the vision ended as you were finishing the recitation from the Qur'an." The Enneagram image above Holds the Secret of The 9 Points , 9 States of Humanity, 9 Sultan al Awliya Shaykh `Abdullah replied, "Surat Ya Sin was called 'the Heart of the Qur'an' by the Holy Prophet and the knowledge of these Nine Points was opened to you through it. The vision was by the blessings of the verse: 'Peace! a Word (of salutation) from a Lord Most Merciful' [36:58]. "Each of the Nine Points is represented by one of nine Saints who are at the Highest Level in the Divine Presence.
"Grandshaykh `Abdullah (q) used to serve in his master’s khaniqah. Everyday hundreds of visitors arrived to visit the Shaykh, most of them coming from Daghestan. Among the many visitors to the Shaykh was the Russian teacher George Gurdjieff. Having recently arrived in Turkey, the knowledge of these Nine Points was opened to you through it. The vision was by the blessings of the verse: ’Peace! a Word (of salutation) from a Lord Most Merciful’ [36:58]." -Naqshbandi website "Each of the Nine Points is represented by one of nine Saints who are at the Highest Level in the Divine Presence. They are the keys to the untold powers within man, but there is no permission to use these keys. This is a secret that in general will not be opened until the Last Days when the Mahdi (as) appears and Jesus (as) returns."-Shaykh Abdullah Faiz al Daghestani Al-Naqshbandi "This meeting of ours has been blessed. Keep it as a secret in your heart and don’t speak of it in this life. `Abd an-Nur, for that is your name with us, you are free to stay or go as your responsibilities allow. You are always welcome with us. You have attained safety in the Divine Presence. May Allah bless you and strengthen you in your work". -Shaykh Abdullah Faiz al Daghestani Al-Naqshbandi
Idries Shah, a populariser of Sufism, has claimed that the enneagram has a Sufi provenance and that it has also been long known in coded form disguised as an octagram.[4] Another claim to a Sufi provenance is offered by the Sufi Enneagram website.[5] The archives of the Naqshbandi Sufi order of Daghestan have been claimed to provide an account of a meeting between Gurdjieff and Shaykh Sharafuddin Daghestani in which the secret of the nine points was transmitted to Gurdjieff.[6]
I am a Christian - a follower of Christ - it can be a challenge, but Jesus said there would be trials/persecutions; but Jesus said blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake. As a Christian, you're not just a number or a letter: you're born again as a new creation, in Christ. Enneagrams, Myers Briggs are just tools that lazy spiritualists use to justify their behavior. Repent!
@@MissDarleneRae Well, I wouldn't say thank God, because people are being deceived, my point was that it's all clearly about entertainment and not the word of God, it's sad really.
The enneagram is rooted in a spiritual lie that these 9 points reveal a deeper meaning to the universe. It is spiritual but not Biblical, and there are only 2 sides when it comes to the spiritual, of God and true or against God and false. The enneagram is an occult false teaching that has no place in the church.
It would be great if you can add spanish subtitles to the talks. I'd like my latin friends to hear this message. Btw loved your biblical aproach to the eneagram
The only Biblical approach to the Enneagram is to discard it as the "childish parlor game" typology is (Carl Jung's words, not mine). worshiphisbeauty.wordpress.com/2020/05/09/the-theology-of-the-enneagram/
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
I always get identified by the oldest brother... when I was a kid, I feel like a 1 that all the time... but as I grow I became more of a type 5 .. is that weird?
No, the Enneatypes are all vague, people relate to multiple types all the time, this is a sign of its invalidity. Enneagram proponents have had to constantly change the rules of the system to keep up with the gaping flaws in the theory, to the point where you can presumably have a "triad" of 9w1w2-3w4w5-7w6w8. It's infantile.
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
Who writes the questions for the enneagram tests? How many different tests are there? How are the tests graded and interpreted? How does your enneagram identity help you to love others and God? Think!
such an angry even agressive body language... I'm little interested in high egotrip American self help motivators on to much coffeine. Hopefully youtube will stop offering me this content. I clicked 'don't recommend' few times.
all of this is just plain evil, it doesn't make any sense, it is not biblical, becoming a Christian is not about us it's about HIM, HIS WILL AND HIS PORPUSES, AND the bible is definitely all about GOD, and only GOD, Jesus said: "For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. Matthew 16:25" Test the spirit brothers and sisters, the gospel is not about us its about HIM! When did we ever read Jesus saying he was a type 8 or 4 or whatever!! Wake up!
@@stalstonestacy4316 Good news: 1s don't exist: "It's easy to see that the divisions are rather arbitrary, with a large dash of vagueness and overlap between the categories. Like any personality test, the more vague it is, the more susceptible to the Forer effect it is. The enneagram is not generally considered to be of any value by mainstream psychologists." rationalwiki.org/wiki/Enneagram "Unless you've done graduate work in psychometrics, the scientific data probably doesn't mean a whole lot to you (which is why there are two parts to this article). For those who have studied psychometrics, it's a no-brainer that the enneagram simply cannot do all its proponents claim it can. Any scientist who studies personality would simply look at the reliability scores and conclude the test is not accurate enough to be helpful, and therefore, they wouldn't use it because the potential for harm will be too high." www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1
It’s all about us,love your self,you are special,you are good,you can be God,why not, new age,the Devil works 24/7.i think your pastor want to help God,and Bible is not enough for him,and need Enneagram from Satan him self !
Look, from an outside perspective, only having beautiful people in your church intro is problematic. It suggests that a group activity like church is only appealing to those drawn to seeking approval from others... Oh wait -_-
My family and I rewatch these series every 2 years to get a positive refresh on this invaluable information. ❤
Little did I know after randomly searching the internet for more info on my newly discovered Enneagram Type 1 that I would come across this truth bomb to my heart. Probably a God thing, to be honest....I've been really struggling lately with expecting perfection of everyone around me and then being always disappointed and angry....and here I found something that speaks right to that. Thank you for giving me perspective, so powerful.
Unlikely a God thing, as the Enneagram is invalid, unscientific and born from occult practices.
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Thank you. I cried all the way through. Praise Jesus.
I appreciate your love and insight. God continue to bless you and your ministry. Amen
Type 1 & A ENFJ-A 😌 I'm not much a religious person but I find it fairly interesting. I surprisingly cried with ur story in the beginning about the father & son. It was beautiful.
I am watching your series on enneagrams. So appreciate these sermons. Thank you
Thank you for watching with us friend!
So good and spot on. Before I clicked on the video (I'm a 1) I said "oh geesh another pastor making church about us" yeah I got a big help of humble pie. Thank you.
I know it is kinda off topic but does anyone know of a good place to watch new series online?
@Maddox Maurice I would suggest Flixzone. Just google for it :)
@Nolan Andy definitely, been using flixzone for years myself :)
@Nolan Andy thanks, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I appreciate it!
@Maddox Maurice happy to help :)
This sermon was such a blessing!!!
But these are the bible verses, that at least for me as a Perfectionist, bring me hope.
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among the people, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.” And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” Then He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give water to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life, without cost. The one who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.
Revelation 21:1-7 NASB2020
OMG HE IS SO RIGHT! I always struggled with having a good testimony so I just wouldn't share. He is calling me out lol
Thank you for posting these. I didn't do the personality diagnostic; but as a recovering addict, I went from a fool to mostly a 1 when God changed me.
I found myself harvesting resentment towards the world and my old friends because God woke me up and they stayed being idiots.
I also struggle with condemning myself for my past and how foolish I was/can be at times. Praying to forgive the world also helped me forgive myself . Because people must have been as mad at me at one point as I've become with others . And if I can forgive them, I can also let the pain of my past go entirely.
It also helped me connect with God on a deeper level, because my Idea of God and his perfection is only my perception ,
And my perception is flawed, his perfection is not.
So I let go of my conception of him and prayed he would show me more of who he really is to my heart.
My biggest struggle is turning off my intellect, and opening my heart to the holy spirits intuition. This video helped with some of that .
God bless. From Minnesota
GOD BLESS YOU SIR.
Just yesterday I was crying with a friend and telling her that I feel like the Prodigal son's older brother. Like I do everything I'm supposed to and my life looks nothing like what I thought it would look like and I'm really exhausted. Then today I randomly took the test and saw that I'm type 1 and found this message. Just had to smile at how God is speaking to me through this message. Thank you!
I can relate to what you’ve shared ♥️
Starts at 6:00
I’m a 1 😩 I drive the speed limit and honk at people who cut me off. I pray that Jesus helps me with my anger and then I ran into this helpful video. Thank you so much. THANK YOU JESUS.
Though the enneagram was created under dubious circumstances this definitely has so much truth to it! As a 1 this whole talk resonated so strongly. I am so glad that there are God centered people out there who are discussing physiology and yet presenting it in a biblical approach. Blessings.
You're saying demons can tell the truth and offer us useful advice. This is false. The Enneagram has been proven useless by psychologists and is classified as astrology minus birthdays.
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/people-are-strange/201909/when-personality-test-results-are-wrong-feel-so-right
www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1
From Jay Medenwaldt's second part of the scientific dismantling of the Enneagram:
"So why is it that such a questionable tool could be so helpful for so many people?
The short answer is that our thinking is governed by quick thinking mechanisms that make life easy for us, but unfortunately, they also lead us astray sometimes. A good book on the subject is Thinking, Fast and Slow."
It's important to know how our minds actually work and why we're open to poorly constructed theories like the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
Wow wow I did my test tonight then came to this video first! I didn’t know I needed this. Thank you!
This just spoke to me. As I am getting ready for college, I realize what comes out a lot is anger. And life not being fair in sports, grades, service, and work. But this just explained why I am angry and how I can now take control. Thank you so much
So I’m a #1, plus the helper. Eye opening
Wow so spot on, and i thank God everyday that he has been by my side guiding me and helping me with the changes necessary to accept that everyone is different and in so many ways, i have come along ways, thank you for the reading
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@@johanzand69 Good post!
I've learned to differentiate between my will and God's will. I would have all people be the best they could be at all times. Everyone would be held accountable and justice would be swift upon them. But then there would be no forgiveness, or grace, or mercy. I cannot be right all the time, not always am I patient enough to withhold judgement. But I know that God is forgiving and patient, so I strive to be the same whenever possible.
I am a 1 and this resonated with me. AWESOME message!
This one spoke to me in so many ways. Thank you.
Read your Bible! It's all you need to help you know God.
Ok. Tell me, how does the story of Jephthah informs me? The Binding (Gen. 22)
Right on I can't believe people fallow this Garbage You got the Bible read it
Thank you! I am a pastor who discovered the enneagram in the last year. You did a beautiful, and I might add Spirit guided job with this. God bless you as you reach more for Jesus and help us all live as we were designed!
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
Dear Christians please do your research. The personality part of the enneagram was added through automatic writing an occult practice. There are videos on TH-cam that document this in the creators own words. Please do your research!!!!
Bonnie Noll it’s good to know where things came from but at the same time, is it not possible for God to have victory even over this? To use what was intended for evil for HIS own glory?
There are many warnings in the Bible about false teaching and occult practices getting into the church. God warns us through his word for a reason.
I rebuke you Satan... you're not funny!!!... this is not Bible this is a false teacher... hes deceiving and being deceived... Jesus said come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing again. This man has a form of God but deny the power there of... I pray you come to the saving knowledge of Jesus.
Nicolle Sil After looking it up my convictions have changed. You’re right. We have to be so careful; the enemy is crafty.
Glad to read you've changed your mind!
lol on our honeymoon my 1 husband picked a fight because I took a muffin for lunch instead of the banana (we packed lunches to save money). When he planned the meals the muffin was for breakfast and the banana for lunch (because you MUST have a fruit and vegetable with each meal, breakfast is the exception)...It's been 10 years and sometimes I get away with putting two vegetables in the main dish....there are lots of rules lololol
Felicia Follum This is such a perfect example of the unhealthy potential of the Type 1. Thank you for the anecdote!
All we need is in the Bible and knowing God is enough. You may want to tune into "Enneagram Christian Perspective | How it's DANGEROUS" by Kap Chapfield its a must watch video!
I’m really appreciating the sermon series! Thanks for posting. I lean towards a 1 and I think the core sin thing isn’t quite right. Anger is an emotion, not a sin. Even Jesus was angry. I think from looking at my own tendencies criticalness and judgement (which could, for some, lead to rage or bitterness or gossip) are closer to the target.
Jill, I have been asking God about my anger because as a 1, I was having a hard time finding sin in my life (which sounds so snobby as I type that) but he kept bringing me back to Anger. Anger is the root of my sin as it causes me to start judging others, then getting SO angry at things I can't fix in people that I fly into a rage (like at my kids) or I get in the car and gossip about what everyone is doing wrong and get bitter because no one sees my right. The root is anger. I am angry that no one sees things like I see them. So yes, anger is the root of sin in my life. I agree with what you say that anger is not a sin, but for me, I am learning that anger causes me to sin in my heart. I may not go out and get drunk, but I sure can judge those that do...both are sin.
While anger is an emotion, he actually said that allowing your anger to CONTROL YOUR FOLLOWING actions is the sin. In your case, maybe the gossiping but being judgmental, critical of others and having self righteousness are some others he listed. He is actually spot on with the core sin.
I think we need to remember that the enneagram has been around for so long. He did not make this up. Even non Christians use this. Instead of the word "sin", think of it as your weakness.
@@rebeccad.8120 False. The Enneagram's "ancient" origins were a lie by Claudio Naranjo to make it more popular, and people have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
The Enneagram has absolutely no scientific value, mainstream psychologists (read: not New Agers) have often never even heard of it because no credible colleges/universities teach it www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1
Also, "Instead of the word "sin", think of it as your weakness" is a completely unbiblical perspective. The Bible tells us "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". Trying to downplay the gravity of our sin is not good.
This is where you are lead astray......
we are not sinners. we create situations to learn from them. we are all love. we are perfectly imperfect (so that there is room for learning and coming closer to god). god is never angry. anger is ego and god has none. love to all of you divine creations.
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Thank you for this! A series on each number of the enneagram is exactly the perfect way to introduce people to this tool for authentically loving and knowing each other! This makes a better body! -an excelling 1
Claim: It seems that the Enneagram is a useful tool. It is a tool for transformation, understanding, self-knowledge, growth, discernment.
Response: The Enneagram uses a lot of terms that are undefined, including the term “tool”. In fact, no book or teaching on the Enneagram even attempts to define what is meant by “tool”, but instead depends on the audience for understanding. One must guess the meaning, and assuming “tool” means something for making tasks easier, one should be able to measure how well it makes them easier. If it facilitates discernment, then it must be possible to know and test how it facilitates discernment, or how it does not do so, and to what degree. In order to evaluate the usefulness of a tool, one must measure whether the tool caused a measurable effect on the task at hand or not. The enneagram itself does not measure self-knowledge or discernment, so an external tool must be used to measure these things. External may mean the person undergoing the process of discernment or knowing of oneself, but this is a subjective not an objective view. Self-reporting on one’s subjective feelings about how much change has occurred is not reliable and subject to error, and even self-deception. Understanding and discernment entail the use of reason and judgement, and in order to facilitate that, clear terms, sound judgements and valid conclusions should be abundant. However, the Enneagram has numerous vague concepts, unsound propositions, and invalid conclusions that don’t follow from their premises.
Please stop using the term "tool", the Enneagram's usefulness as a tool has been debunked.
This is amazing!!!
Thank you! ❤
So good 🙋🏼♀️ #1 here....
Thank you! 🥺🥰🥰🥰✝️
I feel like I always tried to be a 1 but I got jealous the other people could do what ever they wanted and get away with it. I really wish I seen this message a long time ago. I need to stop putting all the focus on my self & my own selfish desire. I know I feel better when I do the right thing. I only do the wrong thing out of spite.
Jesus please help me get better with this.
As a 1,I'm afraid that I will not make the world better and that people will not forgive me my errors. Both make me very angry, especially since I'm working SO HARD to be good to everyone.... so how can everything I contribute be ignored and I be rejected? It isn't fair!
God, the life of a goody good is wearing me out... please help me grow in grace, and please send some more grace my way also.
P.S. I'm suspicious of those who haven't edited their comments - are you sure you're really a 1? :P
I'm Muslim, I enjoyed your preaching I can relate to it in Islam as Islam came to correct and complete not to create something different. We pray to the same God; may he bless you all.
Thank you for your willingness to reply. I believe that Christians also need to understand that God is completing, not making something different. It’s His story, we just play a role in His story. God never needs to start again. He always gets it right.
Anyway, thanks for replying... I appreciate your insight, and willingness to remain open minded and brave. The world needs more of people like yourself.
May God bless you as well...
Hi T_Meyah! I am a Christian and I must speak truthfully that we do not worship the same God. My God is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is Jesus, the Messiah, Who not only died for all of our sins but rose from the dead in victory over sin, hell, and the grave. I know we do not serve the same God because my God is love! I don't have to perform to earn His love, I don't have to wonder and be insecure if I am loved and forgiven by Him or if I'm going to heaven. I have *certainty* of His great love! I have the *sure hope and faithful promise* of heaven awaiting me. I pray with all my heart that you come face-to-face with the God of the universe, the King of Kings, Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world! God bless you in JESUS name:)
I am type 1 and infj. Its hard
TELL ME ABOUT IT! SAME
Oop same
I hear you.
Same here!
Same, Very Hard!
that part of one not having a good testimony is so funny
This blessed me!
We're so glad to hear that!
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
No, we do t show others that. We show them they can never be enough, because we can never be enough…
"...We gonna use this tool to help God begin to teach you about yourself..." :-D :-D The product helping the manufacturer to understand it :-D :-D This one issa no!
Enneagram is of occultic origin.
Thank you for this 💖
Thank you for watching!
On the flip side, 1s will apologize profusely because they are so focused on their flaws and imperfections. It can come across as the martyr syndrome.
Naranjo created the Enneagram by AUTOMATIC writing. Look it up. I'm just a voice.
I am very surprised that this is going around the church due to its origins being with the occult. this absolutely breaks my heart and I hope people do more research and find out the truth about the enneagram and how it is based on the occult and this is not godly.
Spot on
Just a heads up... The Enneagram is not a Christian tool. It was created by New Agers who used a spiritually dangerous ritual called "automatic writing". My advice would be to listen to Preachers who preach from the Bible without the assistance of tools from New Age cults. Not saying this preacher is the devil, but at the very least he is misguided. Don't be misled too!
I encourage you to listen to the precursor to this series: Why God Wants You to Love Yourself. th-cam.com/video/ykydJ4kbqGA/w-d-xo.html He's not using the enneagram to teach the Bible, he's using the Bible to teach the enneagram in a different light. Despite the enneagram's origins, it holds truth to it regarding psychology and how our minds work. He utilizes a tool that is often misinterpreted and misused to reach different types of people.
@@kaleightodd9873 Actually, it does not hold any truth regarding psychology and how our minds work. 150 mental health experts were polled in a study (Koocher, et al, 2014) and called the Enneagram the 2nd most-discredited tool behind the Szondi test. The International Encyclopedia of the Social Sciences called MBTI, the Enneagram and other typologies "a form of divination" (not a Christian text).
Patrick Vermeren is an HR expert who has close relationships with many psychologists in order to find best practices for hiring employees. He wrote a book on the subject that is hard to find, but he was generous enough to post his chapter on the Enneagram freely on the book's website. The chapter is entitled "Myth 8: The enneagram can teach us something about our personality."
Jay Medenwaldt is a PhD candidate in psychology at Baylor U and has made the Enneagram part of his dissertation. He uses actual, useful information on how our minds work and has stated multiple times that the Enneagram should not be used. His latest post on his personal website concludes: "The overwhelming majority of scientific evidence shows that the enneagram does not accurately describe how people are, how they think, how they act, or how they grow. It has negative effects that are often overlooked while most of its apparent positive effects can be explained through other psychological mechanisms."
So who should I trust? Laypeople like Matt Brown, who have not studied psychology at any level, much less a Masters or PhD? Or the huge majority of MA/PhDs in Psychology who either mock the Enneagram, or have never even heard of it because it's not actually taught by any serious institutions? Or maybe I should listen to Helen Palmer, who IS a PhD in psychology, but also claims to have psychic powers/ESP? LOL. No thanks. Medenwaldt and another PhD, Jennifer Fayard, even admitted there was a time they believed in stuff like the Enneagram or MBTI or whatever "typology", but once they had to take more challenging courses and do hard research on the human mind and behavior, they realized why it was bogus. I think we would be wiser to listen to people like them.
OH, and the origins are completely occultic. LOLOLOL. But yeah, such a wonderful, compassionate tool.
Oh my! I’m have so much of a 1 😱
Amen!!
The Enneagrams origin with Gurdjieff and Shaykh Abdullah of Naqshbandi Sufi Order:
Shaykh Sharafuddin (q) asked Shaykh `Abdullah (q) to host their guest. Shaykh `Abdullah recounted the events of the meeting to several of his murids many years later. As soon as they met, Shaykh `Abdullah said, "You are interested in the knowledge of the Nine Points. We can speak on it in the morning after Fajr prayer. Now you eat something and rest." At Fajr time Shaykh `Abdullah called Gurdjieff to come and pray with him. As soon as the prayer finished, the Shaykh began to recite Surat Ya Sin from the Holy Qur'an. As he finished reading, Gurdjieff approached him and asked if he could speak of what he had just experienced. Gurdjieff said:
Through your spiritual power I was able to ascend to the knowledge of the power of the Nine Points. Then a voice, addressing me as `Abd an-Nur, said: 'This light and knowledge have been granted to you from the Divine Presence of Allah to bring peace to your heart. However, you must not use the power of this knowledge.' The voice bid me farewell with the salutation of Peace and the vision ended as you were finishing the recitation from the Qur'an." The Enneagram image above Holds the Secret of The 9 Points , 9 States of Humanity, 9 Sultan al Awliya Shaykh `Abdullah replied, "Surat Ya Sin was called 'the Heart of the Qur'an' by the Holy Prophet and the knowledge of these Nine Points was opened to you through it.
The vision was by the blessings of the verse: 'Peace! a Word (of salutation) from a Lord Most Merciful' [36:58]. "Each of the Nine Points is represented by one of nine Saints who are at the Highest Level in the Divine Presence.
"Grandshaykh `Abdullah (q) used to serve in his master’s khaniqah. Everyday hundreds of visitors arrived to visit the Shaykh, most of them coming from Daghestan. Among the many visitors to the Shaykh was the Russian teacher George Gurdjieff. Having recently arrived in Turkey, the knowledge of these Nine Points was opened to you through it. The vision was by the blessings of the verse: ’Peace! a Word (of salutation) from a Lord Most Merciful’ [36:58]." -Naqshbandi website
"Each of the Nine Points is represented by one of nine Saints who are at the Highest Level in the Divine Presence. They are the keys to the untold powers within man, but there is no permission to use these keys. This is a secret that in general will not be opened until the Last Days when the Mahdi (as) appears and Jesus (as) returns."-Shaykh Abdullah Faiz al Daghestani Al-Naqshbandi
"This meeting of ours has been blessed. Keep it as a secret in your heart and don’t speak of it in this life. `Abd an-Nur, for that is your name with us, you are free to stay or go as your responsibilities allow. You are always welcome with us. You have attained safety in the Divine Presence. May Allah bless you and strengthen you in your work". -Shaykh Abdullah Faiz al Daghestani Al-Naqshbandi
Idries Shah, a populariser of Sufism, has claimed that the enneagram has a Sufi provenance and that it has also been long known in coded form disguised as an octagram.[4] Another claim to a Sufi provenance is offered by the Sufi Enneagram website.[5] The archives of the Naqshbandi Sufi order of Daghestan have been claimed to provide an account of a meeting between Gurdjieff and Shaykh Sharafuddin Daghestani in which the secret of the nine points was transmitted to Gurdjieff.[6]
Shocking confession from the Enneagram inventor! - TH-cam
I am a Christian - a follower of Christ - it can be a challenge, but Jesus said there would be trials/persecutions; but Jesus said blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake. As a Christian, you're not just a number or a letter: you're born again as a new creation, in Christ. Enneagrams, Myers Briggs are just tools that lazy spiritualists use to justify their behavior. Repent!
This was so good. I loved this!
th-cam.com/video/sDQS4yDlHxk/w-d-xo.html
I hear a lot of laughter but not a single Amen...
Thank God because this is blasphemy.
@@MissDarleneRae Well, I wouldn't say thank God, because people are being deceived, my point was that it's all clearly about entertainment and not the word of God, it's sad really.
The enneagram is rooted in a spiritual lie that these 9 points reveal a deeper meaning to the universe. It is spiritual but not Biblical, and there are only 2 sides when it comes to the spiritual, of God and true or against God and false. The enneagram is an occult false teaching that has no place in the church.
How do you get through to a Reformer?
It would be great if you can add spanish subtitles to the talks. I'd like my latin friends to hear this message. Btw loved your biblical aproach to the eneagram
The only Biblical approach to the Enneagram is to discard it as the "childish parlor game" typology is (Carl Jung's words, not mine).
worshiphisbeauty.wordpress.com/2020/05/09/the-theology-of-the-enneagram/
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
I always get identified by the oldest brother... when I was a kid, I feel like a 1 that all the time... but as I grow I became more of a type 5 .. is that weird?
I relate to both 1 and 5, both strongly. I'm INTP.
No, the Enneatypes are all vague, people relate to multiple types all the time, this is a sign of its invalidity. Enneagram proponents have had to constantly change the rules of the system to keep up with the gaping flaws in the theory, to the point where you can presumably have a "triad" of 9w1w2-3w4w5-7w6w8. It's infantile.
Ok, it's types developer admitted that he got the types from automatic writing.
Wow
Amen
Good good
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Your title should really read as "The unhealthy #1" I forgive you :D
Omg that's such a 1 comment😂😂😂
@@emmae1716 😂 LoL exactly
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram.
Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
Who writes the questions for the enneagram tests? How many different tests are there? How are the tests graded and interpreted? How does your enneagram identity help you to love others and God? Think!
such an angry even agressive body language... I'm little interested in high egotrip American self help motivators on to much coffeine. Hopefully youtube will stop offering me this content. I clicked 'don't recommend' few times.
all of this is just plain evil, it doesn't make any sense, it is not biblical, becoming a Christian is not about us it's about HIM, HIS WILL AND HIS PORPUSES, AND the bible is definitely all about GOD, and only GOD, Jesus said: "For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. Matthew 16:25" Test the spirit brothers and sisters, the gospel is not about us its about HIM! When did we ever read Jesus saying he was a type 8 or 4 or whatever!! Wake up!
The dumbing down and devolutionized enneagram; influences A and B....
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Fattest cap 🧢 this 1 was a prodigal ! 24:26
What safe return?!●●●🤣🤣🤣
Occult practice
This is sad...Pseudo psychology supplanting the gospel!
He’s speaking the gospel, calm down!
No. No. No. no….. One’s teach how to be codependent. Ones teach u healthy forms of control No, no, no…...
I hear your audience laughing at 1s and as a 1 I find nothing funny only truth
As a 1, I would have expected you to use punctuation and complete sentences.
@@stalstonestacy4316 Good news: 1s don't exist: "It's easy to see that the divisions are rather arbitrary, with a large dash of vagueness and overlap between the categories. Like any personality test, the more vague it is, the more susceptible to the Forer effect it is. The enneagram is not generally considered to be of any value by mainstream psychologists."
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Enneagram
"Unless you've done graduate work in psychometrics, the scientific data probably doesn't mean a whole lot to you (which is why there are two parts to this article). For those who have studied psychometrics, it's a no-brainer that the enneagram simply cannot do all its proponents claim it can. Any scientist who studies personality would simply look at the reliability scores and conclude the test is not accurate enough to be helpful, and therefore, they wouldn't use it because the potential for harm will be too high."
www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1
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So the oldest doesn’t get his portion of the inheritance shaved off because of sisters yet the younger does...... why
The eldest son would have been responsible for unmarried sisters.
It’s all about us,love your self,you are special,you are good,you can be God,why not, new age,the Devil works 24/7.i think your pastor want to help God,and Bible is not enough for him,and need Enneagram from Satan him self !
Very true
This is not biblical please read your word to confirm what these teachers and leaders are teaching you
Look, from an outside perspective, only having beautiful people in your church intro is problematic. It suggests that a group activity like church is only appealing to those drawn to seeking approval from others... Oh wait -_-
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what kind of new age bs is this?
Less is Best you’re a 1.
Ouch
Lol 💛💛👍🏼
All the 1s mad in the comments cuz they getting called out 😂😂😂
Amen
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Amen amen