This is disturbing, the level of toxicity that exists in our community and the feelings of obligation to be in relationship in the name of love. Accepting abuse is NOT love.
I'm sorry, but that whole "that's still your momma, sister, cousin, brother...etc" is just an excuse within our community to dismiss toxic behaviors. Mom is dealing with resentment & anger, I could tell when she mentioned that her mom deals with her daughter not really her son and the daughter has a lot of anger to. Hitting a child in the face for your neglect...because you left matches around for him to set a fire, is nothing but anger and it's not right. It's a lot of generational traumas that they both have to break to be both mothers & daughters-- because they're taking it out on their children but looking for love in each other. They have to deal with that trauma first.
Grandma should've been on this show too, the mom was raped and forced to give birth to Brianna at twelve. I can see Granny telling the mom to hush and don't tell nobody about what happened to jer Elders aren't always wise and granny sounds like a problem too.
Honestly my mom did the same thing when I was a teenager for talking back it taught me how to listen everyone has different styles of parenting some whoop kids some send them timeout we agree this generation is softer than tissue paper and shooting up schools churches and joining gang's murder rates have gone crime rate has gone up because parents got to show some tough love cause it what the kids need
@@shawn6986 this goes to show your stupidity there are laws in this world that are not man made and respecting authority actually goes with how you prosper in every aspect of your life again since you missed the point you can respect your or with your absence so instead of blocking your prosperity in this life by going back and forth leave and have nothing to do with them
The daughter is not a saint hitting her kid in the eye is abuse not discipline. Hurt ppl hurt ppl. I get a spanking usually a few taps on the lower extremities.
@RoseMackie-ms3lgwoah. True nobody knows the whole story but breathe. As long as you and yours are moving forward bump what ppl think and say. I'm 24 and true nobody is perfect yes what you did was wrong and hurtful but y'all talked apologize and moved forward that's all that matters. Blessings to you and your family. One thing you said was she's still your princess because she looks just like you. That was beautiful in itself.
@RoseMackie-ms3lgare you the mom or is she?? Stop making excuses for your failures. As a mother you help your kids at any age so if her husband and her needed a summer and granny got the kids why are you out here airing that business out to make yourself feel better for what exactly?? Grow up.
Watching Karamo makes you feel like he actually cares about his guest and not just trying to exploit them for ratings. I feel he genuinely wants to help people mend relationships and broken bonds.
"You're not going to sit here & act like I'm a bad parent." Told me everything I needed to know. Your child(ren) ultimately determine if you are a good/bad parent, not you. They are the ones on the recieving/observing end of the treatment given to them. Parents need to listen to their chilldren & their feelings, not dismiss & automatically think they're right just because they are the parent. This is how you start to form a healthy relationship.
I respectfully understand wat yall saying but it's deeper than this show ain't nobody no perfect parents us as parents make mistakes and I do knowledge my daughter feelings but she's have to communicate and not run to social media putting the world in our family business and communicate and work through together our kids have to do better because she's have her own family to make it right broking the generation Curse
@@rosemarymackey6933eh. I think putting it on the internet was actually smart. Throwing class at yo kids? Trying to harm them? nah. you have no intentions on hearing them out! Then you try to run your child over…what’s there to communicate? “mom…I just want you to know that what you did hurt me.” She already laughed at her and called her a clown…what you think is next? I get children are supposed to respect their parents…but y’all parents need to respect your children as well. “Us parents make mistakes” that wasn’t no mistake, she knew exactly what she was doing. That’s not a mistake…it’s a choice and her choice was to harm her child. If your hurting your child and then questioning why they don’t communicate with you…I’m not going to lie…you’re quite dumb…? Why would your child want to communicate with you when you have hurt them!! TRIED TO KILL THEM!? nah that’s horrible parenting. Idk how you raise your children or child…but if you’re trying to make a statement that parents make mistakes and even though she was in the wrong blah blah…ain’t no excuses for that kind of behavior. Never will be.
@Jonae__ like I said yall don't know the half of it and what made do what I did yall just seeing one side and for years I been going to this trauma with my daughter I did everything as a mother to reach out to her but yall sit on this internet shit and troll me like I said I didn't do anything wrong but defending my household my daughter has her own shirt where her ex girlfriend and other baby daddy living but yet want to come to my shit and Disturb my peace
Yea the kids should have been taken away from her. She was locked up in the room with her husband while the children left unattended and have the nerves to beat the poor baby
@@wildfiregirl1556I wish y’all would stop saying that.. that’s not discipline it’s abuse. A swat on the hand or butt is discipline this is a BABY who’s not even capable of understand what they did.
And guess I don't have to expect her to be in my life but my grandkids is my main concern that's it so let that be said you don't know me I don't know you judging off the show yall ppl funny cause I kept my grandkids last summer and took them to Disney world for the first time and where was the parents having issues like always SMH sad case
@@rosemarymackey6933you want a cookie for being a grandmother? But couldn’t be a mother?🤣 nah. That last part spoke louder than the rest of what you said especially the tone of it. Didn’t even need to bring up that they were having issues.
Yeah I damn near would’ve called on myself hitting my baby in the face bc I’ve clearly lost my sh#t! I’m not huge on whooping at all but I can understand for what he was doing but not in the face !
Never ask her to stay connected to me she's grown and married just keep my grandkids safe that's it not let a man beat on him because she didn't beat him the husband and he admitted to that let's keep it real I never seen her beat my grandson like that truth be told
@@rosemarymackey6933...but what does that have to do with the fact that you were *SEXUALLY ASSAULTED* at a young age?! You were *taken advantage of.* That's the point we're getting at.
As a mom idc about your personal trauma. You have an obligation to get better for your kids. It’s not okay what happened to her but she’s old enough to know better than to try and run over with her CHILD with a car and show up in pajamas. Like nah. She had to be embarrassed to change. Also hitting your kid in the face for YOU being neglectful is not okay. Do better
It's hypocritical AF that the same people who tell women to leave a man who beats or tries to kill them, tell the same women to fight for a relationship with an abusive mother.
Exactly ! If a man hits you , leave. If this was not her mom , we would be telling her to leave . As a community, we really need to detach from this perspective because our babies are experiencing the toxicity that's not being dealt with . I'm so TIRED of but that's your mom . What about the babies that have to watch this ? What does that teach them about what love is ?
the second the daughter said her mum had her at age 12 i didnt hear anything else after that. the mum is abusive absolutely but its INSANE to have a child at such a young age. OF COURSE the mother is going to have problems, the daughter has to understand that. theres wrong on both sides but being raped as a child, being a child having a child....the mum is stuck at 12
Rosemary's mom never told her any different. She was allowed to do was she wanted. But she always took care of her and was there for her. I have witnessed a lot of stuff that happened and it's crazy to sit here and put on a fake show to down her mom and not has made a move to help their relationship as she say but Brianna has went back to ignoring her mom
Sometimes 12 year old girls are forced to have s#x and get pregnant, I can see the grandma making the mother keep Brianna and telling her not to say anything..
@@Ghostaredead but it's OK for the cops to beat and kill black people right and get hero awards and be celebrated I rather discipline my kids firmly out of love then let them get away with everything and have the police on them and I'm proud to say Mt tough love paid of and my daughter running g track🙏🏿I hate to see Karamo act like this is just a black thing when it stated in slavery and we had to beat our kids for learning how to read and write so the master wouldn't beat and kill em or sell them away how soon we forget
Great grandma should've been on this show. She needs to explain herself too. 11 year old daughter graped and forced to raise her molesters Baby , shame on it all..
The daughter states that at age 12 that is where her relationship went sour with her mother and that was also the age that her mother got pregnant. The mother is stuck at age 12. The mother sees herself in her daughter. There is resentment but there is love. Depending on whether the daughter was conceived out of rape or by a boy within the same age range as the mother could also be an angle as to why the dynamic of the relationship is the way it is as well.
Thank you for bringing mom back out. I saw how her countenance softened. And I shed a tear for her daughter after she said "I just want my momma". Mom, I can't imagine your pain. And you had to keep going in spite of it. That tenderness you showed her on stage was beautiful. You both deserve that.
You have to be the bigger person. You can’t try to run her over bc she tried to hurt you. Stay away from her until you all have cooled off bc one mistake can cause her children to be without their Mom and you in prison. Don’t tell her personal business to the world. That’s not love. That is drama and you are showing the world that you could care less about her. How do you want to build a relationship with her and then tell us about her double life. Really? She’s still a child in her mind when it comes to you. Ask God to teach you how to Mother her.
Mom is grossly ignorant. She approaches her daughter like a home girl in the street. She literally said, “come on dog.” Your daughter is not your friend.
If the pregnant 12 year old wasn't properly taken care of, then emotions aren't gonna go away, especially if it was traumatic or a family member...Your sister seems to be still emotionally 12 years old with certain situations....Tell Briana stay strong. She got this....❤
@RoseMackie-ms3lg Too much toxicity on display. Your personal life is of no concern of mine and anyone is free to comment on what is displayed on TV. If you didn’t want anyone commenting, then keep your business off of the TV.
@@TheShyAiko Her character is on full display. Anyone with a modicum of understanding, knows that anything on social media is free fodder for consumption. Her whole business on a talk show and she wants silence. Make it make sense.
Aa an individual who grew up with an abusive mother and lived in foster care and group home as a child, I’ve come to the realization that I will never get the love and acceptance from my mother. I’ve realized a long time ago that my mother isn’t capable of loving herself much less loving another person. My mother never wanted to be a mother. I don’t trust her with my kids and I never will. I accept that she’s my mother but I put her where she belongs. I’ve since learned that she will never accept responsibility and apologize for what she did.
That's your problem so I can't related to that wen I been there the whole time with my daughter I'm not prefect but I know this is that my child needs help that's it
@@ekachuks7481baby her trying to hit her with a car is a no no!! Saying shut up is mild comparing to trying to hit someone with a car. She could have killed her!!
The mom was abused at 12 and took her anger out on her daughter... Daughter was angry at mother for mistreating her and never learned the correct way to parent, so she abuse the grandchild.... The cycle is deadly 😢
The mama is something else. "you going always be my princess, bc you look like me" miss ma'am. let the statement be about your daughter. Don't add yourself or a reason you love her.
How tf she get mad at the child for grabbing the matches that THEY left out. ITS A DAMN CHILD ! Your responsibility to not leave shit out like that PERIOD
My mom’s mother called CPS on my mom back in my junior year of high school. My mom initially believed it was one of my cousins who is pretty judgmental but the case worker that stopped by did a house check and proceeded to ask my mom what her relationship with her mother was like. My mom put 2 and 2 together and later on down the line, my mom’s first cousin, who she was raised with, finally told her that she called. We cut her completely off and believe it or not it wasn’t because of that. She has done so many wicked things down the line and we just finally had enough of her bullshit. It’s crazy because that same narcissist spirit tried to come and over take my mom and for a while we butt heads BAD but we’re waking every day towards healing. My grandma put my mom through HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and despite my mom’s demons, she’s still a bomb ass mother and because God gives me grace and mercy everyday, I return the same to her. I’m so glad this young lady is breaking the generational curse. Sending my prayers and love 🙏🏾🥹🤎
Ooooh Karamo! You got down today for sure!!! I love that you knew Rosemary did not need to be put down. She needed to be lifted up!! I love the way this show ended but I also know that these two ladies have so much work to do but they can get it down with love. Great show!!!! Build the love up Ladies !!!! Y’all can do it!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Yall saying that the mom was right to call CPS is dead ass wrong. AS A MOTHER to HER DAUGHTER, she should’ve sat her down and had a conversation with her. She went straight to the system. That shit is CRAZY.
This won’t get better without therapy!These type of anger issues resulting from trauma are almost impossible to break without therapy!Wish Karamo would have offered them therapy,he didn’t even mention it like he usually does😮.
That's bcuz these people are destroyed and he can tell that. There personalities will not change without going through hell and back, so he's at least asking them to hear each other but this shit is doomed even with therapy. They have major personality disorders now they ain't worked on as adults, they are doomed. Some people cannot be fixed
It's so important to have nurturing soft qualities as a mom. Every child should be used to being hugged and told I love you often by their mother. From both parents actually. The pathology of this family is abuse and that's not ok
Very true, but if the parent ain’t received a nurturing, soft parent how can they pass on qualities they never received themselves to reciprocate that to their own kids.
@@capturedbyshelly Valid question. I’ll use myself as an example. My mother was not a nurturer, hugger or soft by any means. I now am a mom myself and due to knowing the feeling of not being supported, hugged, or protected, I couldn’t imagine making my sons feel that way. If therapy is needed to learn certain tools to heal past traumas that’s just fine. It is learned behaviors after all. Parents have to sit in their own feelings and I mean really sit in them. Looking at your child’s eyes full of tears, sadness and fear should be enough reason to stop in your tracks, apologize and self correct. Surrounding yourself with other mothers who are nurturing and loving is also a great influence and you begin to build a tribe full of healthy relationships
@capturedbyshelly My mom was like that and all my sisters say is "that's just how she is" they got over it. Me going through other trauma and having no safe space, got it embedded deeper than they did. They left home had kids and became soft. Me I left and had a child... that's that. I did what I had to do to care for her and it took me 6 years to realize I need therapy. It's hard to be soft and have compassion for anyone. I can pretend and try to follow the norms but it's not genuine. I also chose to put my child in therapy because I don't want her to end up negative like me, even though she's not I want to do everything possible to prevent it.
A supposed apology from your mom when it ends with “but you’re not perfect either” is always painful. That’s the moment that reminds you they’ll never change.
They both need parenting class the mom isn’t too old ……. Because the level of abuse passed down is very disturbing hitting your child in the face, the running over, and stabbing is too much the daughter needs to hold herself accountable too
Yeah cuz initially when they were talking and she was back stage when the daughter said she wanted a relationship with her mom the mom was mouthing that she didnt want one with her.
No matter what my relationship is with my mom, she ain’t cursing me. The mom seems to have not evolved and needs therapy. The daughter is not gonna get the mothering she wants, mom is not equipped. Hopefully they can get it together individually then come together
I want to hug the daughter and throttle the mother. The daughter is so beautiful. I think mom was jealous since day one because her baby got the attention. Daughter should pray and realize her mother just can’t give her what she needs.
This is beyond toxic, go no contact. She doesn’t like/love and she’s evil. She isn’t worth having a relationship with. No mother treats their kids like this. It doesn’t matter when it happened, it happened. Love her from a distance, the mom is a horrible person
So your friend left the matches on the table, you and your husband were sleeping in the room while kids were unsupervised and they got in trouble because adults failed to protect them from things they could get into or mess with…
@RoseMackie-ms3lg I didn't even finish the episode after she said she hit your grand baby in the face . I don't condone that . BUT there is a lot of trauma . The way you react and what comes out your mouth . Psychologically you didn't develop fully due to trauma... and as a mom I couldn't act like YOU or HER. Parents need to realize they f ups mess up they children . No shade . Hope you'll heal individually so you can be healthy for the children born into this . either way we all got our $hit we have to deal with . Yall dysfunction not stopping my life
It breaks my heart that she would even want to have a relationship with her mom after everything. Her self esteem is broken. If anyone else did those things, she likely would never speak to them. She should seek therapy and CUT all TIES. Family means absolutely nothing if the person is basically evil. Anyone with a womb and nine months to spare can be a “mother”, if they are out to hurt you, cut it off. She is going down a painful and unnecessary path. She also needs to keep her hands off her kids, and teach them safety rules.
Due to her grand mothers statement which I've heard in my own family is why many of us end up in or stay in abusive romantic relationships.. Abuse is not love.
Damn, it seems like her mom hates her. Her mom acts like a child. She's extremely angry. I love my children. I would never treat my daughters like this.
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her
I would’ve been cut her ass off. She tried to run over her own daughter. Her mom is very aggressive and too much. Move on w/ your life…… you deserve better momma. It’s too much trauma.
I couldn't even have my kids around a mother like this. I would even have to love her from the distance. Then she calls her daughter dog. Like....WHAT?!? But nevertheless, don't disrespect your mom and tell her to shut up. And the mother shouldn't put the grandkids in the middle of their situations calling CPS.
parents just have to sometimes understand that even though YOU feel like you were a A+ parent, the kids aren’t always going to necessarily feel that. people perceive things differently. she felt like well my daughter could’ve just come to me at 12 and told me she felt a way with our bond. but her daughter was a kid and felt like as a mom she should’ve just known
Constant themes in this community : 1. Anger, anger, anger 2 Honor and 'respect' their abuser. 3. Abuse is normalized as discipline 4. Parents have premature emotions & act younger than their children The younger generation only have the power to break this cycle through separation and learning to love themselves.
My mother pushed me to boarding school when I was 7 years out of my other 5 siblings, when my big sister who was then 12 died😢 my mum said she wished I died instead of my sister, she always called me names and insulted me, I’m now 33years but still feel pain coz we don’t have a bond, even if she calls me baby when she needs something in my mind I’m like just ask for what you want don’t sweet coat me, I found love in mothers of my friends coz I always admired how close they were with thr daughters, I know I can never have such a session but I pray I get healed from this one day.
She reported you in a vindictive way? Was striking your son and leaving him with a black eye vindictive? Good grief, she legit reminds me of my past abusers it's disturbing.
I don't know because a lot of times parents say that the things we say are lies but that's just their way of hating to feel like they ever done anything bad they don't like to feel like they are mocking their parents and you can't just fix a relationship like that in one hour they have to go to therapy separately and together
I understand the grandmother wanted better for her grandkids but she has to own accountability that she taught her daughter that. Her daughter has to understand she could break a cycle instead of doing the same thing
1. The mother, Rosemary, is trash. Period. And this idea that you have to love and respect your mother anyway is garbage, too. You do NOT have to allow someone to abuse you, treat you horribly, and harm you, and just accept it and force yourself to “love” them. That is a false antiquated idea and it’s one of the reasons we have so much generational trauma. And yeah, the mother got pregnant at an early age, and of course that causes trauma, but that doesn’t excuse her torturing the daughter and taking her issues out on her. Plenty of mothers out there were teen moms, but they don’t grow up to abuse and torture their children. Rosemary seems to be jealous of her daughter because she feels her own mother is kinder to her daughter, but that’s not an excuse to treat your daughter poorly. Trying to run her over? Trying to cut her. Throwing glass pieces at her? Stop. Anybody defending this is either a poor parent or a damaged brainwashed child. 2. The daughter needs to be careful with her own attitude before she becomes like her mother. The fact that she left a mark on her child’s face for playing with matches is NOT acceptable. She’s already channeling the same anger that was shown to her and she needs to fix that IMMEDIATELY.
I know what it’s like to have a violent mother. I relate to the daughter, the only difference is I don’t want a relationship with my mother. Nothing can make me want a relationship with her after the trauma she put me through. She can stay over where she at with all that negativity. The whole ‘she is still my mother’ don’t even run on my end because she don’t know how to be a mother and won’t take accountability for her behaviour. So I have no interest in having a relationship with her because it’s too late.
THISSSS. I am currently in the same boat. My nan always is telling me let my mum see my son and she's still my mother. No bitch. No "mother" allows her bf to sexually assault me and I'm still gonna run around he he ha ha with her no way ontop of that she didn't believe me and she takes no accountability. She even kicked me and my sister out at the same age mine was worse because I was 18 and pregnant with my son. Mothers like ours deserve nothing but pain
I’ve been no contact with my female parent for 15 years. She was violent, tried to ruin my credit, and would disparage me to my friends, employers, landlord, and family.
@@loishanamckenzie3307sorry that you went through this experience. I can relate in some way .... The bond I had with my mother prior to my traumatic experience with her second husband .... Yeah... It's been a day to night experience. Every year after that only getting worse. After learning how to love myself again... I am now learning how to have mercy on her. However, i could forgive but never forget. We always accept the love we think we deserve. If someone does not care enough to learn how to love you .. Then they simply don't deserve you.
When your pregnant at 12, it's generally not by a another 12 yr old, the baby is by a grown man and a family member.
Facts..that's why the mother is so angry and hateful..
That perv still invited to all the their family functions!! Gross negligence
Yup u hit it right on !!!!
You said a mouth full
Exactly
The fact she is smirking back stage while her daughter recounts the story is alarming.. run from this person.
I just said look at her face, my face is screwed up every time I see her face.
@@jah3053 I know rose personally this isn't her character at all
This is disturbing, the level of toxicity that exists in our community and the feelings of obligation to be in relationship in the name of love. Accepting abuse is NOT love.
Exactly! Keeping things like this hush! hush! Only allows the pedofyles to continue to do it to someone else's child.
@@shawn6986 You are right!
Agreed it’s terrible !
@@shawn6986facts
Black folks so use of living in dysfunction. We don’t even know till we are removed.
I'm sorry, but that whole "that's still your momma, sister, cousin, brother...etc" is just an excuse within our community to dismiss toxic behaviors. Mom is dealing with resentment & anger, I could tell when she mentioned that her mom deals with her daughter not really her son and the daughter has a lot of anger to. Hitting a child in the face for your neglect...because you left matches around for him to set a fire, is nothing but anger and it's not right.
It's a lot of generational traumas that they both have to break to be both mothers & daughters-- because they're taking it out on their children but looking for love in each other. They have to deal with that trauma first.
Grandma should've been on this show too, the mom was raped and forced to give birth to Brianna at twelve. I can see Granny telling the mom to hush and don't tell nobody about what happened to jer Elders aren't always wise and granny sounds like a problem too.
Exactly. Like stop playing games with your life. Some people aren’t worth it.
Thank you. I've been saying this for so long
This is the best comment on this video. Very well put!
Honestly my mom did the same thing when I was a teenager for talking back it taught me how to listen everyone has different styles of parenting some whoop kids some send them timeout we agree this generation is softer than tissue paper and shooting up schools churches and joining gang's murder rates have gone crime rate has gone up because parents got to show some tough love cause it what the kids need
Black people have done ourselves a huge disservice by saying, "Well, that's your parent, and you have TO ALWAYS respect and love them."
You do!!
You can give respect your parents with your presence or if you can't then you can respect your parents with your absence
@@changestartsnow5116 I do. Neither one of my parents raised me, do they still deserve my respect?
@@shawn6986 this goes to show your stupidity there are laws in this world that are not man made and respecting authority actually goes with how you prosper in every aspect of your life again since you missed the point you can respect your or with your absence so instead of blocking your prosperity in this life by going back and forth leave and have nothing to do with them
Absolutely correct
If my mother is trying to hit me with a car & calling me a mutt, she can't EVER be in my kids lives, she wrote her own epitaph .
The daughter is not a saint hitting her kid in the eye is abuse not discipline. Hurt ppl hurt ppl. I get a spanking usually a few taps on the lower extremities.
I agree
Agreed👏👏👏
@RoseMackie-ms3lgwoah. True nobody knows the whole story but breathe. As long as you and yours are moving forward bump what ppl think and say.
I'm 24 and true nobody is perfect yes what you did was wrong and hurtful but y'all talked apologize and moved forward that's all that matters.
Blessings to you and your family. One thing you said was she's still your princess because she looks just like you. That was beautiful in itself.
@RoseMackie-ms3lgare you the mom or is she?? Stop making excuses for your failures. As a mother you help your kids at any age so if her husband and her needed a summer and granny got the kids why are you out here airing that business out to make yourself feel better for what exactly?? Grow up.
Watching Karamo makes you feel like he actually cares about his guest and not just trying to exploit them for ratings. I feel he genuinely wants to help people mend relationships and broken bonds.
Yes, thank you ❤
Karamo is doing a great good. He calls a spade a spade point blank
Yes
Sure bud it's not like that's what he gets paid to do
Agreed he’s so down to earth and compassionate. Love love love 💗 Karamo!
There comes a time when you have to cut all ties with a toxic person, EVEN if that person share the same blood.
Yup!
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"You're not going to sit here & act like I'm a bad parent." Told me everything I needed to know.
Your child(ren) ultimately determine if you are a good/bad parent, not you. They are the ones on the recieving/observing end of the treatment given to them.
Parents need to listen to their chilldren & their feelings, not dismiss & automatically think they're right just because they are the parent. This is how you start to form a healthy relationship.
Word ...I said the same thing....that's always how it starts.....🤦🏾♀️
I respectfully understand wat yall saying but it's deeper than this show ain't nobody no perfect parents us as parents make mistakes and I do knowledge my daughter feelings but she's have to communicate and not run to social media putting the world in our family business and communicate and work through together our kids have to do better because she's have her own family to make it right broking the generation Curse
@@rosemarymackey6933eh. I think putting it on the internet was actually smart. Throwing class at yo kids? Trying to harm them? nah. you have no intentions on hearing them out! Then you try to run your child over…what’s there to communicate? “mom…I just want you to know that what you did hurt me.” She already laughed at her and called her a clown…what you think is next? I get children are supposed to respect their parents…but y’all parents need to respect your children as well. “Us parents make mistakes” that wasn’t no mistake, she knew exactly what she was doing. That’s not a mistake…it’s a choice and her choice was to harm her child. If your hurting your child and then questioning why they don’t communicate with you…I’m not going to lie…you’re quite dumb…? Why would your child want to communicate with you when you have hurt them!! TRIED TO KILL THEM!? nah that’s horrible parenting. Idk how you raise your children or child…but if you’re trying to make a statement that parents make mistakes and even though she was in the wrong blah blah…ain’t no excuses for that kind of behavior. Never will be.
@@rosemarymackey6933I get what your saying but if the kids need to do better then so does the parents it’s not a one sided thing
@Jonae__ like I said yall don't know the half of it and what made do what I did yall just seeing one side and for years I been going to this trauma with my daughter I did everything as a mother to reach out to her but yall sit on this internet shit and troll me like I said I didn't do anything wrong but defending my household my daughter has her own shirt where her ex girlfriend and other baby daddy living but yet want to come to my shit and Disturb my peace
I understand why she was upset, But HITTING THE BABY and also LEAVING A MARK yea that’s abuse let’s not sugar coat that
Yea the kids should have been taken away from her. She was locked up in the room with her husband while the children left unattended and have the nerves to beat the poor baby
Exactly! She is no diffrent from her mother that tried to run her over. They gotta break this cycle! Hopefully this is step one for them.
Nothing wrong with discipline. But they shouldn't have matches out period.
@@wildfiregirl1556I wish y’all would stop saying that.. that’s not discipline it’s abuse. A swat on the hand or butt is discipline this is a BABY who’s not even capable of understand what they did.
@@longbranch11207,my thoughts exactly!
Just because she's your mother doesn't mean you have to be close to her and let her be in your life like that. You can love her from a distance.
And guess I don't have to expect her to be in my life but my grandkids is my main concern that's it so let that be said you don't know me I don't know you judging off the show yall ppl funny cause I kept my grandkids last summer and took them to Disney world for the first time and where was the parents having issues like always SMH sad case
@@rosemarymackey6933you want a cookie for being a grandmother? But couldn’t be a mother?🤣 nah. That last part spoke louder than the rest of what you said especially the tone of it. Didn’t even need to bring up that they were having issues.
You don’t have to love them at all ! They owe YOU love, you owe them nothing if they can’t uphold their basic responsibilities as a parent.
I can’t get over the fact that she hit her child in the face. It’s hard for me to sympathize.
Yeah I damn near would’ve called on myself hitting my baby in the face bc I’ve clearly lost my sh#t! I’m not huge on whooping at all but I can understand for what he was doing but not in the face !
❤qar
Thank you and thinking it’s ok. The children should have been taken away from her
@@longbranch11207 Thats clear physical abuse, and neglect with the matches just lying around too
Agreed
I'm very happy I wasn’t brainwashed to believe you have to stay connected to your abusers, just because they're related to you.
Thank you ❤
Never ask her to stay connected to me she's grown and married just keep my grandkids safe that's it not let a man beat on him because she didn't beat him the husband and he admitted to that let's keep it real I never seen her beat my grandson like that truth be told
Giving your kid a black eye is crazy.
I bet he won’t strike another match
@@jacobTheeCreole Where were the matches at???
@@jacobTheeCreole Who left the matches somewhere to be found????
An adult was neglectful or careless enough for those matches to be found.
@@jacobTheeCreolethey left the matches out. How are both the parents sleep & the kids are up? I would have called cps too for blacking a child's eye
WHO GOT HER PREGNANT AT AGE 12
CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT WTF
WHERE IS THIS MAN AND IS HE IN PRISON?!
He ain't in jail I did well taking care of my kids
Somewhere else messing with other children. Please pray for all the children of the world.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@rosemarymackey6933...but what does that have to do with the fact that you were *SEXUALLY ASSAULTED* at a young age?! You were *taken advantage of.* That's the point we're getting at.
@@rosemarymackey6933how old was he when he impregnated you?
Might b a family member tht SA her
As a mom idc about your personal trauma. You have an obligation to get better for your kids. It’s not okay what happened to her but she’s old enough to know better than to try and run over with her CHILD with a car and show up in pajamas. Like nah. She had to be embarrassed to change.
Also hitting your kid in the face for YOU being neglectful is not okay. Do better
Yes, as a mother myself I’m working thru my trauma because coming from a mother who used her trauma as an excuse to treat my harsh is just crazy
It's hypocritical AF that the same people who tell women to leave a man who beats or tries to kill them, tell the same women to fight for a relationship with an abusive mother.
👉🏾 well said🎯
I totally agree.
Exactly ! If a man hits you , leave. If this was not her mom , we would be telling her to leave . As a community, we really need to detach from this perspective because our babies are experiencing the toxicity that's not being dealt with . I'm so TIRED of but that's your mom . What about the babies that have to watch this ? What does that teach them about what love is ?
the second the daughter said her mum had her at age 12 i didnt hear anything else after that. the mum is abusive absolutely but its INSANE to have a child at such a young age. OF COURSE the mother is going to have problems, the daughter has to understand that. theres wrong on both sides but being raped as a child, being a child having a child....the mum is stuck at 12
Exactly
I agree
Rosemary's mom never told her any different. She was allowed to do was she wanted. But she always took care of her and was there for her. I have witnessed a lot of stuff that happened and it's crazy to sit here and put on a fake show to down her mom and not has made a move to help their relationship as she say but Brianna has went back to ignoring her mom
Sometimes 12 year old girls are forced to have s#x and get pregnant, I can see the grandma making the mother keep Brianna and telling her not to say anything..
True indeed
So she hit her child in the face because she was being an irresponsible parent and not supervising them?
If she put them to bed and he got up and tried to burn the house down he needed his ass whooped I don't care what they said
Yup u got it
@@ilovemeris2213that state of mind is exactly why they on this show
@@Ghostaredead but it's OK for the cops to beat and kill black people right and get hero awards and be celebrated I rather discipline my kids firmly out of love then let them get away with everything and have the police on them and I'm proud to say Mt tough love paid of and my daughter running g track🙏🏿I hate to see Karamo act like this is just a black thing when it stated in slavery and we had to beat our kids for learning how to read and write so the master wouldn't beat and kill em or sell them away how soon we forget
Exactly that's my point I was trying to say she's not a bad parent but she didn't beat my grandson the husband did that
“She still my mom” girl BYE 😂🤦🏾♀️
#Nocontact18years
This one was tough. Two very hurt inner children unfortunately passing on the hurt. I truly hope things get better, and the kids involved are safe
Great grandma should've been on this show. She needs to explain herself too. 11 year old daughter graped and forced to raise her molesters Baby , shame on it all..
Her grandmother taught her to always love the ppl who abuse her . Ain’t no good in that at all .
The daughter states that at age 12 that is where her relationship went sour with her mother and that was also the age that her mother got pregnant. The mother is stuck at age 12. The mother sees herself in her daughter. There is resentment but there is love. Depending on whether the daughter was conceived out of rape or by a boy within the same age range as the mother could also be an angle as to why the dynamic of the relationship is the way it is as well.
My love for my family is CONDITIONAL, never going to be unconditional.
The best comment on this entire video!
And i might add, I can very much love you and not be in your life for my safety
Thank you for bringing mom back out. I saw how her countenance softened. And I shed a tear for her daughter after she said "I just want my momma".
Mom, I can't imagine your pain. And you had to keep going in spite of it. That tenderness you showed her on stage was beautiful. You both deserve that.
You have to be the bigger person. You can’t try to run her over bc she tried to hurt you. Stay away from her until you all have cooled off bc one mistake can cause her children to be without their Mom and you in prison. Don’t tell her personal business to the world. That’s not love. That is drama and you are showing the world that you could care less about her. How do you want to build a relationship with her and then tell us about her double life. Really? She’s still a child in her mind when it comes to you. Ask God to teach you how to Mother her.
@RoseMackie-ms3lg😮please erase this message. It is not cool and where is the love? I pray for both you and your daughter.
@RoseMackie-ms3lgwow she gave yu a compliment and you go on to do the opposite of what she complimented you for that’s really sad
Mom is grossly ignorant. She approaches her daughter like a home girl in the street. She literally said, “come on dog.” Your daughter is not your friend.
Did you not hear her say she had her at 12!!! She was still a kid trying to raise a baby.
She was literally a child with a baby
@@changestartsnow5116 , you speak as if that was said when she was twelve. She is in her forties. Unjustifiable.
This is my niece Briana and I hate that she has to go thru what she does with her mother... Keep her in your prayers!
If the pregnant 12 year old wasn't properly taken care of, then emotions aren't gonna go away, especially if it was traumatic or a family member...Your sister seems to be still emotionally 12 years old with certain situations....Tell Briana stay strong. She got this....❤
I been waiting for this since the shorter clip dropped this morning.
So much toxicity. I could not live like this, you have to learn to love people from a distance.
@RoseMackie-ms3lg Too much toxicity on display. Your personal life is of no concern of mine and anyone is free to comment on what is displayed on TV. If you didn’t want anyone commenting, then keep your business off of the TV.
@@hazelboyce7230 thank you ! She commenting on ppl stuff but broadcasting her business. But dont want anyone to speak their opinion .
@@TheShyAiko Her character is on full display. Anyone with a modicum of understanding, knows that anything on social media is free fodder for consumption. Her whole business on a talk show and she wants silence. Make it make sense.
Aa an individual who grew up with an abusive mother and lived in foster care and group home as a child, I’ve come to the realization that I will never get the love and acceptance from my mother. I’ve realized a long time ago that my mother isn’t capable of loving herself much less loving another person. My mother never wanted to be a mother. I don’t trust her with my kids and I never will. I accept that she’s my mother but I put her where she belongs. I’ve since learned that she will never accept responsibility and apologize for what she did.
That's your problem so I can't related to that wen I been there the whole time with my daughter I'm not prefect but I know this is that my child needs help that's it
The daughter's son having a black eye plus her telling her mum to shut up is a MAJOR red flag
What u tryna say
Exactly, especially telling her mum to shut up in the national tv. No, not right. However, I truly wish that they can workout their differences.
@@ekachuks7481baby her trying to hit her with a car is a no no!! Saying shut up is mild comparing to trying to hit someone with a car. She could have killed her!!
I thought the same exact thing
How is the DAUGHTER tge red flag???
The mom was abused at 12 and took her anger out on her daughter... Daughter was angry at mother for mistreating her and never learned the correct way to parent, so she abuse the grandchild.... The cycle is deadly 😢
The mama is something else. "you going always be my princess, bc you look like me" miss ma'am. let the statement be about your daughter. Don't add yourself or a reason you love her.
How tf she get mad at the child for grabbing the matches that THEY left out. ITS A DAMN CHILD ! Your responsibility to not leave shit out like that PERIOD
Yeah idc momma or not im not finna deal with chaotic behavior
My mom’s mother called CPS on my mom back in my junior year of high school. My mom initially believed it was one of my cousins who is pretty judgmental but the case worker that stopped by did a house check and proceeded to ask my mom what her relationship with her mother was like. My mom put 2 and 2 together and later on down the line, my mom’s first cousin, who she was raised with, finally told her that she called. We cut her completely off and believe it or not it wasn’t because of that. She has done so many wicked things down the line and we just finally had enough of her bullshit. It’s crazy because that same narcissist spirit tried to come and over take my mom and for a while we butt heads BAD but we’re waking every day towards healing. My grandma put my mom through HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and despite my mom’s demons, she’s still a bomb ass mother and because God gives me grace and mercy everyday, I return the same to her. I’m so glad this young lady is breaking the generational curse. Sending my prayers and love 🙏🏾🥹🤎
everybody tryna break a cycle but nobody sitting down and figuring out wtf the cycle is
Right! They both and the whole family need a whole lot of God, Jesus, and therapy
1:19 and if you notice she said this started at 12 her mother was literally triggered by her daughter turning 12 because of what happened to her imo
Karamo is hands down one of the best talk show hosts of all time. Truly.
Ooooh Karamo! You got down today for sure!!! I love that you knew Rosemary did not need to be put down. She needed to be lifted up!! I love the way this show ended but I also know that these two ladies have so much work to do but they can get it down with love. Great show!!!! Build the love up Ladies !!!! Y’all can do it!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Yall saying that the mom was right to call CPS is dead ass wrong. AS A MOTHER to HER DAUGHTER, she should’ve sat her down and had a conversation with her. She went straight to the system. That shit is CRAZY.
Girl fr!!! The fuck is wrong with people
And the fact that she didn’t call even the situation happened but to be vindictive!!! Crazy.
This won’t get better without therapy!These type of anger issues resulting from trauma are almost impossible to break without therapy!Wish Karamo would have offered them therapy,he didn’t even mention it like he usually does😮.
That's bcuz these people are destroyed and he can tell that. There personalities will not change without going through hell and back, so he's at least asking them to hear each other but this shit is doomed even with therapy. They have major personality disorders now they ain't worked on as adults, they are doomed. Some people cannot be fixed
"She manipulive"lmao I just can't
Blood or not, when it’s time to remove toxicity from your life DO IT
It's so important to have nurturing soft qualities as a mom. Every child should be used to being hugged and told I love you often by their mother. From both parents actually. The pathology of this family is abuse and that's not ok
Very true, but if the parent ain’t received a nurturing, soft parent how can they pass on qualities they never received themselves to reciprocate that to their own kids.
@@capturedbyshelly Valid question. I’ll use myself as an example. My mother was not a nurturer, hugger or soft by any means. I now am a mom myself and due to knowing the feeling of not being supported, hugged, or protected, I couldn’t imagine making my sons feel that way. If therapy is needed to learn certain tools to heal past traumas that’s just fine. It is learned behaviors after all. Parents have to sit in their own feelings and I mean really sit in them. Looking at your child’s eyes full of tears, sadness and fear should be enough reason to stop in your tracks, apologize and self correct. Surrounding yourself with other mothers who are nurturing and loving is also a great influence and you begin to build a tribe full of healthy relationships
@capturedbyshelly My mom was like that and all my sisters say is "that's just how she is" they got over it. Me going through other trauma and having no safe space, got it embedded deeper than they did. They left home had kids and became soft. Me I left and had a child... that's that. I did what I had to do to care for her and it took me 6 years to realize I need therapy. It's hard to be soft and have compassion for anyone. I can pretend and try to follow the norms but it's not genuine. I also chose to put my child in therapy because I don't want her to end up negative like me, even though she's not I want to do everything possible to prevent it.
A supposed apology from your mom when it ends with “but you’re not perfect either” is always painful. That’s the moment that reminds you they’ll never change.
Sometimes you have to stop allowing toxic people in your life! Including your mother!!
The Mom wrong and very evil end of story!
The Mother was never allowed to be a child. Grandmother passed down her pain to her Daughter who passed it down to her daughter.
They both need parenting class the mom isn’t too old ……. Because the level of abuse passed down is very disturbing hitting your child in the face, the running over, and stabbing is too much the daughter needs to hold herself accountable too
You can feel the bitterness in them 😢 Oh lord intervene on this one 🙏
I see the hate and jealousy in the moms eyes
Her mom is a narcissist!
Yeah cuz initially when they were talking and she was back stage when the daughter said she wanted a relationship with her mom the mom was mouthing that she didnt want one with her.
And maybe borderline considering the violence.
@@gracelikerain5039sure was
Text book definition
No matter what my relationship is with my mom, she ain’t cursing me. The mom seems to have not evolved and needs therapy. The daughter is not gonna get the mothering she wants, mom is not equipped. Hopefully they can get it together individually then come together
Some MOMS AINT capable of giving love love and sometimes you have to accept tht
@@Jenny-uv4dl 🎯
Karamo looked like he wanted to laugh in the very beginning because WHOSE MOTHER TRIES TO RUN THEM OVER?! Just ratchet 😂
I did that because she tried to run me over with her girlfriend car first wen she living a double life check that sir
I want to hug the daughter and throttle the mother. The daughter is so beautiful. I think mom was jealous since day one because her baby got the attention. Daughter should pray and realize her mother just can’t give her what she needs.
This is beyond toxic, go no contact. She doesn’t like/love and she’s evil. She isn’t worth having a relationship with. No mother treats their kids like this. It doesn’t matter when it happened, it happened. Love her from a distance, the mom is a horrible person
So your friend left the matches on the table, you and your husband were sleeping in the room while kids were unsupervised and they got in trouble because adults failed to protect them from things they could get into or mess with…
Exactly but the but the husband beat my grandson
Exactly 🎯🎯
I love the daughter's beautiful skin
Sometimes you need to know when to cut off your mom . She has a man n kids she don’t need that lady
Yeah I have to cut off mine this year
She did right by calling CPS 🤷🏾♀️
Idk I’m in the middle
Girl cut that momma off ... that's so toxic but she's stuck at 12 . She has mommy and daddy issues 😕
@RoseMackie-ms3lg I didn't even finish the episode after she said she hit your grand baby in the face . I don't condone that . BUT there is a lot of trauma . The way you react and what comes out your mouth . Psychologically you didn't develop fully due to trauma... and as a mom I couldn't act like YOU or HER. Parents need to realize they f ups mess up they children . No shade . Hope you'll heal individually so you can be healthy for the children born into this . either way we all got our $hit we have to deal with . Yall dysfunction not stopping my life
The sad part is they act just alike and they both don’t hear each other atp they just need to both leave the past in the past and start over 💯
This is when you love from a distance and wish them well!
It breaks my heart that she would even want to have a relationship with her mom after everything. Her self esteem is broken. If anyone else did those things, she likely would never speak to them. She should seek therapy and CUT all TIES. Family means absolutely nothing if the person is basically evil. Anyone with a womb and nine months to spare can be a “mother”, if they are out to hurt you, cut it off. She is going down a painful and unnecessary path. She also needs to keep her hands off her kids, and teach them safety rules.
Girl!!! Leave her and love from a distance
Her mama look wayyy more than 12 years older than her. She is the true definition of a Karmic mother. Let her go
Who the hell got her pregnant at 12 years old??? We need to ask her mom’s mom what the hell was going on???????????
She was actually 14 when she had her and 13 when she got pregnant.
I believe her mom break the cycle. Beautiful queens. Let go and let God. You are a great mom.......
Thank you
@@rosemarymackey6933 you welcome
Due to her grand mothers statement which I've heard in my own family is why many of us end up in or stay in abusive romantic relationships.. Abuse is not love.
Damn, it seems like her mom hates her. Her mom acts like a child. She's extremely angry. I love my children. I would never treat my daughters like this.
Mom had good reason to call CPS!
You hit him in the eye that's abuse. Girl you needed DCF.
Hard having a hood mom.....She had to asked to hug her crying daughter....
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her
Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach her?
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive
I would’ve been cut her ass off. She tried to run over her own daughter. Her mom is very aggressive and too much. Move on w/ your life…… you deserve better momma. It’s too much trauma.
One thing about karamo he will keep it real on whether you're wrong or right in a situation 💯
That was a good start to a long road of healing ahead. I hope they are in a better place. Love is not enough if you are constantly hurting them.
I couldn't even have my kids around a mother like this. I would even have to love her from the distance. Then she calls her daughter dog. Like....WHAT?!? But nevertheless, don't disrespect your mom and tell her to shut up. And the mother shouldn't put the grandkids in the middle of their situations calling CPS.
Very off topic but mamas lace is melteddddd hunny
The mom went out there and completely embarrassed herself. She's jealous of her daughter. Plain and simple.
This!
Maybe not jealous, but resentful that she is a reminder of the man that toyed with her innocence.
My mom died at 73 I never got the motherly love. Some times you gotta just cut ties
parents just have to sometimes understand that even though YOU feel like you were a A+ parent, the kids aren’t always going to necessarily feel that. people perceive things differently. she felt like well my daughter could’ve just come to me at 12 and told me she felt a way with our bond. but her daughter was a kid and felt like as a mom she should’ve just known
Thank God for my parents ❤for the love thay showed
I can't get past the hitting your baby in the face for something an adult left around!!!
Constant themes in this community :
1. Anger, anger, anger
2 Honor and 'respect' their abuser.
3. Abuse is normalized as discipline
4. Parents have premature emotions & act younger than their children
The younger generation only have the power to break this cycle through separation and learning to love themselves.
The fact that she had her at 12 and has no idea about the dad is concerning. It sounds like it had to be SA…
My mother pushed me to boarding school when I was 7 years out of my other 5 siblings, when my big sister who was then 12 died😢 my mum said she wished I died instead of my sister, she always called me names and insulted me, I’m now 33years but still feel pain coz we don’t have a bond, even if she calls me baby when she needs something in my mind I’m like just ask for what you want don’t sweet coat me, I found love in mothers of my friends coz I always admired how close they were with thr daughters, I know I can never have such a session but I pray I get healed from this one day.
She reported you in a vindictive way? Was striking your son and leaving him with a black eye vindictive? Good grief, she legit reminds me of my past abusers it's disturbing.
Prayers for this family
Why is the dad’s identity unknown. Can Karamo help her?
The math ain't matching...she said her mom got pregnant with her at 12, but she's 29 and the mom is 43 which would make the mom pregnant at 14.
They're BOTH confused.The math ain't mathin'.Thank you,Casey Grimes-Finley,Chicago,Illinois
I don't know because a lot of times parents say that the things we say are lies but that's just their way of hating to feel like they ever done anything bad they don't like to feel like they are mocking their parents and you can't just fix a relationship like that in one hour they have to go to therapy separately and together
I understand the grandmother wanted better for her grandkids but she has to own accountability that she taught her daughter that. Her daughter has to understand she could break a cycle instead of doing the same thing
A 12-year-old cannot teach a child anything!
Better off without her, believe it or not. Love doesn’t =safety
1. The mother, Rosemary, is trash. Period. And this idea that you have to love and respect your mother anyway is garbage, too. You do NOT have to allow someone to abuse you, treat you horribly, and harm you, and just accept it and force yourself to “love” them. That is a false antiquated idea and it’s one of the reasons we have so much generational trauma. And yeah, the mother got pregnant at an early age, and of course that causes trauma, but that doesn’t excuse her torturing the daughter and taking her issues out on her. Plenty of mothers out there were teen moms, but they don’t grow up to abuse and torture their children. Rosemary seems to be jealous of her daughter because she feels her own mother is kinder to her daughter, but that’s not an excuse to treat your daughter poorly. Trying to run her over? Trying to cut her. Throwing glass pieces at her? Stop. Anybody defending this is either a poor parent or a damaged brainwashed child. 2. The daughter needs to be careful with her own attitude before she becomes like her mother. The fact that she left a mark on her child’s face for playing with matches is NOT acceptable. She’s already channeling the same anger that was shown to her and she needs to fix that IMMEDIATELY.
I know what it’s like to have a violent mother. I relate to the daughter, the only difference is I don’t want a relationship with my mother. Nothing can make me want a relationship with her after the trauma she put me through. She can stay over where she at with all that negativity. The whole ‘she is still my mother’ don’t even run on my end because she don’t know how to be a mother and won’t take accountability for her behaviour. So I have no interest in having a relationship with her because it’s too late.
THISSSS. I am currently in the same boat. My nan always is telling me let my mum see my son and she's still my mother. No bitch. No "mother" allows her bf to sexually assault me and I'm still gonna run around he he ha ha with her no way ontop of that she didn't believe me and she takes no accountability. She even kicked me and my sister out at the same age mine was worse because I was 18 and pregnant with my son. Mothers like ours deserve nothing but pain
I’ve been no contact with my female parent for 15 years. She was violent, tried to ruin my credit, and would disparage me to my friends, employers, landlord, and family.
Man. I feel you
@@loishanamckenzie3307sorry that you went through this experience. I can relate in some way .... The bond I had with my mother prior to my traumatic experience with her second husband .... Yeah... It's been a day to night experience. Every year after that only getting worse. After learning how to love myself again... I am now learning how to have mercy on her. However, i could forgive but never forget.
We always accept the love we think we deserve.
If someone does not care enough to learn how to love you .. Then they simply don't deserve you.
She know that her daughter don’t care she wouldn’t even look at her .. she gonna regret that moment
43????????😮 I thought she was 53
53 my ass
Trying to make a joke about my age
she doesn’t even look 43. she looks younger. black don’t crack. you must be dumb
43 and look damn good.
@@rosemarymackey6933u look good
These mother secretly hate their daughter. My mother couldn’t stand me
Yup!