Because we like to deny it but it stays in your mind. So he got DNA. When it comes to men time don't matter. She can be 60 he will still want DNA test it's about if you belong to his bloodline.
@@jasminejones3073 no we men think this way. If she was with me on Monday Tuesday Wednesday. But on Friday she was with him maybe his seed made it to the egg and not my seed. So DNA test. Money maybe a little factor. He ain't sure about all his kids not just her.
I have a friend who got a DNA test at 36 because ppl always said he didn’t look like his father & his mom died when he was 7. The DNA proved he was fathered by another man. When his dad found out he said “I kinda figured you weren’t but since I’d paid so long to take care of you I decided I earned the right to be your daddy.” They never discussed it again he said.
He received an inheritance and to prevent from not sharing any of it with his daughter he went as far as denying her as his daughter by arguing that she's dark skinned.. Despicable.
@@mphodiane1204 it depends on how the inheritance is shared, my great-grandma willed her assets to her *kids and grandkids* , my grandma was the only living child of 3, but my grandma had 10 kids, so my grandma did a quit claim deed so that my great-grandma house switched into my grandma name and was automatically hers. So when my great-grandma passed , my grandma sold the house without probate or reading of will, since she was able to get house in her name.
Him laughing and cracking a “you are not the father” joke, was so ridiculous and uncalled for. I hope the mother and daughter can move past this and set boundaries with the father. He sat up there for 15 minutes and tugged on her heart strings :( how sad.
This man is a fool a whole fool … this man is heartless .. I was half wishing he was not the father because that poor young woman have to put up with him for the rest of his miserable life …. And the colour thing just got dash , foolishness….grow up man you are soon to be a grandfather step it up .
If they had laws in place to make DNA testing mandatory at birth, all of this would be eliminated. Like it or not, many men get children put on them that are not theirs and the court system makes them support them even when DNA tests prove that they are not the fathers because their names are on the birth certificates. The only problem is, this man should have had test done years ago.
He broke the trust now. She’s gonna be distant. He’s blaming the mother. But the mother stood on her ground about it. Just goes the show you can’t go by looks.
Yeah I'm sick of it too because I'm considered black (by American standards) but clearly light-skinned. I'm a genetic throwback to my European and other non black ancestors. Due to my complexion people used to make jokes with my mother that I must be the milkman's baby. My mother hated me for that. When my paternal relatives (great aunts and so on) saw that I was born with blue eyes and dark blonde hair (which darkened with age) and that I was lighter than them (and not by much because they look like what Americans think a "Latino"/"Hispanic" is) they hated me too. I got beaten up and starved as a baby when a family member was being paid to care for me just because of my high colour was slightly lighter than hers and her daughters. It's been that way every time I meet any black woman (and some black men) who are light skinned but darker than me. I don't care who believes me. My colour has stopped me from getting jobs with black women including family members and if I don't grin up in dark skinned people's faces (when that's not my personality), I am called a bitch, lied about and set up to get a beating because apparently I think I'm better than them because I have a high complexion. Apparently I've always had it easy, but white people treat me like any other black person in fact in my school days many white girls would insult me telling me that I'm clearly only black because my skin is dirty whilst at uni, white women who were supposedly my friends confessed to me that they felt they were more attractive than Beyonce by virtue of their skin. I was literally told I was "one of the boys" when a poll of the best looking women in my all white course was taken, but I have it easy when black women want to be abusive. So yeah I'm tired of hearing the narrative from dark skinned people that it is light skinned people who have the issue with colourism because that hasn't been my experience. My experience is that dark skinned people hate their own complexion and blame white people for this believing that colourism comes from chattel slavery perpetrated by white people when it actually comes from Islam. Quran 3:106 On the Day [some] faces will turn white and [some] faces will turn black. As for those whose faces turn black, [to them it will be said], "Did you disbelieve after your belief? Then taste the punishment for what you used to reject." "Abud Darda' reported God’s messenger as saying, “God created Adam when He created him and struck his right shoulder and brought forth his offspring white like small ants. And he struck his left shoulder and brought forth his offspring black as though they were charcoal. Then He said to the party on his right side, ‘To paradise, and I do not care’ and He said to the party in his left shoulder, ‘To hell, and I do not care’.”" Reference : Mishkat al-Masabih 119 In-book reference : Book 1, Hadith 112 White people knew about and used to intermarry with black people before Islam. There was even a black African Roman emperor Septimius Severus and early black Christian saints like St Maurice. It was established history that most of the native people from the Levant through North Africa where Arabs are now were all black too. Ancient histories from Greece and Rome tell of this. Arabs obliterated black history and depopulated North Africa by selling the natives to white people then they kidnapped white people and forced them into slavery. That's actually where colourism comes from. People ignore Islamic colonialism/imperialism and that is why black people will never get over the the issue of colour. Looking for the root in the wrong place.
As a black father, I was so disturbed by this episode. HORRIBLE example of a father and a man!! Unfortunately, this level of ignorance permeates our communities and is long lasting.
lol! 🤣🤣🤣As a black father you🫵know what his issues is really about. It’s obvious he plaid himself with his pride into believing that high yellow shit can take him further in life to find something better than what he already had. And he broke down his own daughter heart because he’s hurt by destroying the greatest thing he ever had in his life with that child’s honest loyal mother. Plus He didn’t say one one honest thing about himself while on that stage. Because he wasn’t just young when he lucked up and made a baby with a good loyal woman back then. He was young and foolish to listen to other people negative comments about the greatest loyal woman he will ever have in miserable his life.
My mom had two dark skinned parents. And she was lightskinned. Her father's family didn't believe it she was his because of her complexion. It can also skip generations too.
My mother was high yellow! But my father is dark skinned. My brother came out high yellow like my mother and I came out dark skinned like my father. WTH 🤦🏽♀️ I hope he didn’t torture her for nothing. Because we as women are very sensitive about our looks.
Yes! I know a set of twins who have a mixed mom who looks almost white. Their dad is dark skinned. One twin came out light and the other dark. Three boys I grew up with have a dark mom and a yellow dad. The oldest son came out a mixture between the two. The middle son came out yellow, and the last son came out dark. It happens... We don't inherit an exact 50% of whatever makes up our parents' dna. It's random. A mom with two kids could be 75% African, 20% European, and 5% Native American, for example. One child could inherit 40% African, 10% European, and none of the Native American, while the other child could inherit 40% African, 8% European, and 2% Native American. The specific ethnicities and percentages our parents give us are very random and differ between siblings.
Same in my family my sister came out light like my mom and I came out dark like my dad. 33 years later he decided to ask for a DNA test even though my sister took his whole face. It broke my sister and the relationship I had with him. It’s hard for me to have a relationship with him knowing he disowned my sister.
Similar situation. My father is brown (with a dark skinned mother and a possibly 1/4 mixed father). 5 out of 7 children of his are light skinned, one brown, and the other (my full-blooded brother) is a weird in-between (he was light as a child but got darker when he started working in a garden). My mother is light skinned and has two previous children on the darker shade of brown. But me and my brother are light. My father doesn’t question any of it though since we all look like him and our siblings anyway. His genes are strong apparently lol
that "she looks nothing like me" was PURE colorism. she got his eyes, bone structure, and all. some men can't help but be deadbeats fr. he got his parents check and wanted any reason for it to only be his and not his children's. by the story we heard, he won't there for them either. he better hope he doesn't end up alone and in a retirement home with nothing but his money to keep him warm and comfort him.
@@Mamashayshay that’s awfully kind of you because unfortunately many men end up that way according to my friend who works in a retirement home due to choices they made towards their women and children in their younger days. he’s lucky you’re very forgiving and i know that isn’t easy. i wish you the best on your journey 🙏🏾
He is so emotionally abusive. How he treated his daughter's mother on national television is indicative of the type of individual 😮that he is. The fact that Tish could have lost her life whilst driving 🚗 is 😮 really painful. I actually cried. Why would a man insult other human beings like that; where is love, where is humanity? I would have run off 😢 stage and collapsed from embarrassment. I mean his daughter was even pregnant. Also when he said I popped her once and she said she was pregnant; that is not my child SMH. I am happy Karamo addressed the issue of the ramifications. I hope she is a believer because only believers🙏 could truly forgive the sad, painful attack upon his daughter and her mother. I am actually still crying. God bless the ladies please heal them. 🙏 ❤
I understand the whole point, but we have to understand that the world is waking up to a new reality, where men has fathered children from babes to adults, and then come to know the child or children are not theirs , so we have to give and take, sometimes is not what we do, but how we do it!
I’m tired of parents hurting their kids then act like it’s their fault for their lack of maturity!!! This is so sad and he should be ashamed of himself but unfortunately he’s not!!!😢
This was HORRIBLE! OMG this hurt me so bad because I'm not understanding HOW it was so easy for him to believe other people and hurt that girl like he did. I absolutely understand the MOM's reactions. Even after the results, he still didn't fully apologize to her without saying "but" and it as so sad. She is beautiful like mom.
It wasn't just other people that convinced him, he said that he had multiple kids that turned out not be his. He said he was suspicious from the start, I believe he genuinely just gave up on his suspicions and took care of her whether he thought she was his or not given his past situations but the reality kept haunting him until she got older and it backfired on him.
He’s terrible he literally said “you are not the father” before the dna test results like how are you gonna raise someone for almost 26 years and not care wtf 😢
That’s the most hurtful, You think you have a dad And it turns out now he don’t really love you and can’t be that great of a man if you would hurt her like this way
She isn't even dark skinned. She is brown skinned and it shouldn't even matter because we can come out in all different shades. It doesn't even matter if the parents are light skinned, the baby can come out dark or vice versa or any sort of combination. My mom has light skin and my skin is brown skinned. Throughout my extended family, we range in shades of brown. Light to darker.
Literally my boyfriend and I are both brown skinned and our son is light skinned with green eyes. Black women carry the Eve gene and can produce literally ANY shade
This is crazy they’re acting like she’s completely dark skin and looks nothing like him she’s a few shades darker than him with the exact same face as him this colourism thing needs to stop. It’s ignorant and stupid!
My heart goes out to her. I grew up in Ms and experienced colorism, prejudices and jealousy. We need to do better about each other. We come in different shades, phenotypes and hair textures.
This was sickening. One thing I learned is that physical wounds can heal, but words will last a lifetime, so be cautious with them. Because she will never forget his words and his actions on the stage.
I saw this in my own family, it's truly a sickness. My dad was black and my mom was white, I came out looking Italian or Jewish. My dad had another daughter before me with a black woman, I was always given preferential treatment and it's crazy because I've always been proud of my black heritage too regardless of what I look like. Some people in my father's family encouraged me to pass as white as much as possible to get ahead, some people are really still grappling with self-hate to this day! Dark skin is beautiful but I would never classify this young lady as darkskinned, she has brown skin and the fact that people in her father's family denied her and insulted her complexion is sick
@@valenciaaniese when I was born I looked like a cute baby sumo wrestler. Looked just as Japanese as they come. Straight coal black hair and slanted eyes. My father was Biggie's complexion and my mother was Faith's complexion. His family made the comment that I wasn't his as well. My mother had some not so nice words for them...
Haven’t seen the results yet but… She IS NOT DARK skinned- the dad is NOT that light skinned! 👓 🤓 Update- he WAS the daddy!? Why would he do that!??? I always say DNA should be mandatory at birth regardless… but he should’ve done that silently like Karamo said 😔
In the words of Tiffany New York Pollard "If you're black and standing in it, stand in it in ALL SHADES" and Karamo know because he was sitting on a couch across from her when she said it
When I say I’m so grateful I’ve been talking about the topic for months and I never knew other people understood as a black 17 year old young woman colorism has had its way with me my father is also not black but I’m not extremely lightskin I’m brow skin I even hear it from our own kind I just hope the world would open up and accept everyone because I to once felt I needed to be lighter to be beautiful also 🤦🏽♀️
It's so sad but unfortunately it happens alot in our community. Both of my parents is high yellow but I turned out dark-skinned the same complexion as my grandmother on my father side. And by the way I'm her twin. I Thank God that my dad didn't reject me because of my complexion. A father and daughter relationship is golden. So hearing a dad say that about his daughter is heartbreaking 💔. He got a lot of work to do to repair that relationship.
This happened to me. Both of my parents are brown skin and I was a high yellow baby when I was born and my father thought I wasn’t his b/c his friends were putting that in his head. My mother said “she’s my baby”. Colorism is real and it’s messed up what kids go through and the mother of the child.
He took care of her, she acknowledged others were jealous of how he treated her vs other bio kids. He upset with mama; feels like she moved on & thats the pain source for him. He said "what about (moms name)". Want to hurt old love - deny your shared child.
Take care of yourself sis but never mind the comments of this people they are out there to use words to destroy your relationship more with your father,he was wrong for what he did but forgive and forget and create new memories and build your relationship more. I wish you God's blessings 🙏🙏🙏
My daughter went through the same exact thing. Their dad was very fair skinned and my daughter is my complexion or darker. She's 28 now and has daddy issues because she never had that bond with him. His family are color struck and love my son and my bi racial grand daughter but my daughter and her kids doesn't get that love. I was a virgin the first time I had intercourse and got pregnant. Even offered a DNA test that he never shown for
He wanted to drop a child most likely cause he's a bum. And he made her feel his insecurities over and over for years. He doesn't deserve to be a grandpa to her child.
How is he a bum when his daughter said, that he was always there in her life, through college, graduation, he got her a car at 16 and she kept saying he was always there and the others were jealous and you call him a bum? He could have gone about establishing paternity in a more respectful way, but how is he a bum? Why doesn’t he deserve to be a grandpa to her child? Yall are always extreme.
@@hazelboyce7230 he was literally a bum to his other kids though…they said he was barely in their life lmaoo y’all pick and choose the information to remember. he’s a bum through and through and just wanted that inheritance money to himself.
@@onyxgothicc Are those the same ones that he said the DNA tests proved aren’t his? Based on what he said, he had things happen in his life and he had to sit at the altar and he found out some of the children placed on him are not his. I guess part of the inheritance was that the paternity of all of his children be confirmed. Why don’t yall tell women stop sleeping raw with several men at the same time, so there is no doubt who fathered their children. Yall love to come for the men and call them all sorts of names but I don’t ever hear yall tell the women stop sleeping around.
My father is Native American from the Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma and is that man’s complexion and my mother is brown skinned African American. Im also an enrolled member of our tribe. I grew up in Detroit. I’ve heard so many things about how I don’t look this or don’t look like that but baby genetics are something else no matter WHAT others whisper in your ear about who you look or don’t look like. I know she’s hurt. She looks like her dad especially in her facial features. I wish colorism bs would stop but unfortunately it never will. Everyone always wants to categorize others and fill in these blanks. To One group of people, you’re too this and to another group of people, you’re too that. SMH I’ve been told I don’t look like I’m part Native or I look Asian and black or I look maybe white and black or I look “full black” but maybe a teeny bit mixed with something else…the comments are sick and crazy to me. I feel her pain and hope she heals from this! He sounds like he has a bunch of kids out there and like he’s just irresponsible looking to throw responsibilities away. SMH his daughter is beautiful! He should be proud!
this man infuriated me. when i was a baby, one of my dad's "friends" looked at me (i'm light skinned and dad's dark) and told him he oughta get a DNA test on me. pops looked at him crazy. he knew i was his with everything in him and NO ONE could influence him as easily as this man was.
I feel you Young Lady. I am a dark skinned female and it was hurtful growing up in my family and in my community. I'm 65 now and it still hurts what people really think ( stupidly of coarse ). It took my entire life for the whole damn world to look at a dark person's features snd not just be repulsed by the color of their skin. My own mother called me black. This was before we were black and proud. I isolated and read. What i came to to conclusion to arrest my mind was to realuze and even once said as a child, " if you don't want a child on the darker side; just don't sleep with anyone of that shade. Especially if you feel that way. You end up not being able to love your child because you have dumb ass ideolgy
This is very sad. I am very dark skinned and love my color. My mom is biracial my siblings look as my mother and I'm the only dark one. I love my complexion and wouldn't change it for the world.
@@MamashayshayAs u have every right to be hurt. He never should have expressed his doubts to U. If he really had questions he could have done it privately on his own. That was between him and your mom. I would ask what were his plans if it turned out he wasn't. Why didn't he have a test years ago? He clearly had a plan if u turned out to not be his, i would keep my distance hes too reckless. After raising u and being there for 20 plus it shouldn't have mattered at all.
my mom had a dark skin son and two tan babies, from the same father. we all come in different shades. So childish to think thats a reason thats not your child. glad you could help her
I went through this as a child and look just like the man. He’s family was shitty to me. His father was my bestie. He is now deceased and he was very abusive. So I lived my life without him. I Thank God for allowing me to see what I didn’t want for my children. 💯💯
Who needs enemies to put you down and make you feel unwanted when you’ve got good ol family 😪smh the ppl who are always supposed to have your back are always 1st in line to break you.
I just love Karamo. I can’t say it enough. This precious gem of a young woman is being unnecessarily being put through changes. I hope that while we attempt to deal with our Colorism issues, can we also deal with our bypassing emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. (How dad bypasses his own feelings onto her. ) For the record they have the exact same head shape.
My daughter is lighter than me and her dad. He didnt think she was his. His unfounded anger & accusations ruined our marriage but she is definitely HIS! He started clowning thinking I had cheated and did things you can't undo. Again... our daughter is OUR daughter.
this whole situation could've been avoided if he had went about his 'doubts' in an adult manner and discussed all this with the mother,instead of directly coming to his daughter only to break her heart with issues he clearly could've ironed out with the mom,bc he did say "i doubted your mother not you".really left the daughter caught in the middle
I am with Karamo. I am tired of this in our community. You raised this baby you the pappy! This internalized racism and hatred has to go if we are ever going to move ahead as a people.
I’m lighter than this girl but my daddy is darker than hers 😂 and my mom is darker than this girls mom but yet I’m light brown. Genetics are weird sometimes.
My Mother and Father are Jamaican Indian and light in complexion. They had 5 children including me, 2 are light, 1 is medium and 2 are dark. My cousins range in colour too. Its not surprising to me at all that colourism is still a problem because I've had plenty of people say to me " oh your sister is so pretty and lovely hair" her hair is straighter than mine but mine is longer, but its all down to our skin colour, lighter is seen as more attractive. Its never been an issue between us all as siblings but i hope our children one day won't be hearing stuff like this.
This colorism thing in our community is so strong. I hate seeing this. If you only hit it once and you think you're not the father, get a test asap
@christopherfunnyboybrown3271 I agree with you. They were friends for 30 years and she will be 27 years old. He needs to stop his nonsense.
It only takes one time ☝🏿
Its much stronger in other communties TRUST ME!!
he a lie he did it more then Once if they was in a relationship like his daughter said they was
Amen.
I’m confused, she’s her mom complexion. And if he’s not the father, why he waited this long? That’s heartbreaking.
In the beginning of the video it says he was told this by his friends at the time. So the question is why did he friends wait so long.
Because we like to deny it but it stays in your mind. So he got DNA. When it comes to men time don't matter. She can be 60 he will still want DNA test it's about if you belong to his bloodline.
I'm confused because she's not that much darker than him. Colorism is worse than racism. You're hating on your own, even your own CHILD.
because he just came into some money like they said...smmfh
@@jasminejones3073 no we men think this way. If she was with me on Monday Tuesday Wednesday. But on Friday she was with him maybe his seed made it to the egg and not my seed. So DNA test. Money maybe a little factor. He ain't sure about all his kids not just her.
I have a friend who got a DNA test at 36 because ppl always said he didn’t look like his father & his mom died when he was 7. The DNA proved he was fathered by another man. When his dad found out he said “I kinda figured you weren’t but since I’d paid so long to take care of you I decided I earned the right to be your daddy.”
They never discussed it again he said.
See this is exactly why men are doubtful!!!
WOW!
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Now, that’s a real Daddy ‘s love!!
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He threw away a 26-year relationship over a rumor!? 😩
He threw it away to keep all the inheritance money for himself 🤮
He received an inheritance and to prevent from not sharing any of it with his daughter he went as far as denying her as his daughter by arguing that she's dark skinned.. Despicable.
I agree !
But he is not forced to share inheritance with his daughter. This is not an excuse to humiliate your daughter this way
Agreed 100%. He was protecting his inheritance.✌️🏾❤️
He's just so selfish,my respect goes to the daughter coz I wouldn't have remained in his life
@@mphodiane1204 it depends on how the inheritance is shared, my great-grandma willed her assets to her *kids and grandkids* , my grandma was the only living child of 3, but my grandma had 10 kids, so my grandma did a quit claim deed so that my great-grandma house switched into my grandma name and was automatically hers. So when my great-grandma passed , my grandma sold the house without probate or reading of will, since she was able to get house in her name.
His comment “you are not the father” when she was opening the envelope pissed me off. I wouldn’t even let him be in my life after that.
Yes, exactly, me too! That was crazy immature and apparently he didn't want to be her father..
Right! Immature as hell
right 😮💨
Exactly, he think this a game😮
Is karamo OK he sound like he got a cold and a see a Lil crust in his eye, ❤
Him laughing and cracking a “you are not the father” joke, was so ridiculous and uncalled for. I hope the mother and daughter can move past this and set boundaries with the father. He sat up there for 15 minutes and tugged on her heart strings :( how sad.
Cringe AF
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@@thecringeof2666she-her-hers- 9:50
Word!! That was jacked up!
This man is a fool a whole fool … this man is heartless .. I was half wishing he was not the father because that poor young woman have to put up with him for the rest of his miserable life …. And the colour thing just got dash , foolishness….grow up man you are soon to be a grandfather step it up .
I would never deny having a beautiful daughter like that. He should be ashamed of himself....😥 Edit. Thanks For The Likes Guys!!😇
So wait it wrong for a man to question smh how much women put children on men that is not there's smh
@Poohbear7747 I know right u love your child regardless
I never said don't love your children let's just say she was not his no one would have care how the man feels
@@chrisettefryer Absolutely ❤
If they had laws in place to make DNA testing mandatory at birth, all of this would be eliminated. Like it or not, many men get children put on them that are not theirs and the court system makes them support them even when DNA tests prove that they are not the fathers because their names are on the birth certificates. The only problem is, this man should have had test done years ago.
This girl has his entire face structure, eyes. All of that, with her mom’s nose. I could see it before the results. That’s so sad! I hurt for her 🙏🏽
I appreciate you ❤
Thank you
Yup
100% , she looks just like him.
That girl is beautiful! He could have handled this behind closed doors and saved himself some embarrassment.
She is not even that dark and Dad isn’t too light too
RIGHT!
Exactly black folks really be irking me
Correct
Right!! I thought i was seeing things wrong
Yeah, I was confused. They kept calling him “high yellow” and I’m like “who?” This man is one shade away from brown himself 😒
He broke the trust now.
She’s gonna be distant.
He’s blaming the mother.
But the mother stood on her ground about it.
Just goes the show you can’t go by looks.
She looked more like him than her Mom. Especially bone structure.
I am. I feel wrong for being distant, but ig I am protecting myself.
@@clarity2013 I think that she looks like her gorgeous mother.
@@MamashayshayI’ve been through this with my dad. I know exactly how you feel. Keep your head up dear.
Every child deserves love and respect.
so sick of the skin color bs !!! that skin is flawless and remains that way !!!
Me too. I also hate the words high yellow, red, dark skinned. That slave mentality is alive today.
Yeah I'm sick of it too because I'm considered black (by American standards) but clearly light-skinned. I'm a genetic throwback to my European and other non black ancestors. Due to my complexion people used to make jokes with my mother that I must be the milkman's baby. My mother hated me for that. When my paternal relatives (great aunts and so on) saw that I was born with blue eyes and dark blonde hair (which darkened with age) and that I was lighter than them (and not by much because they look like what Americans think a "Latino"/"Hispanic" is) they hated me too. I got beaten up and starved as a baby when a family member was being paid to care for me just because of my high colour was slightly lighter than hers and her daughters. It's been that way every time I meet any black woman (and some black men) who are light skinned but darker than me.
I don't care who believes me. My colour has stopped me from getting jobs with black women including family members and if I don't grin up in dark skinned people's faces (when that's not my personality), I am called a bitch, lied about and set up to get a beating because apparently I think I'm better than them because I have a high complexion. Apparently I've always had it easy, but white people treat me like any other black person in fact in my school days many white girls would insult me telling me that I'm clearly only black because my skin is dirty whilst at uni, white women who were supposedly my friends confessed to me that they felt they were more attractive than Beyonce by virtue of their skin. I was literally told I was "one of the boys" when a poll of the best looking women in my all white course was taken, but I have it easy when black women want to be abusive.
So yeah I'm tired of hearing the narrative from dark skinned people that it is light skinned people who have the issue with colourism because that hasn't been my experience. My experience is that dark skinned people hate their own complexion and blame white people for this believing that colourism comes from chattel slavery perpetrated by white people when it actually comes from Islam.
Quran 3:106
On the Day [some] faces will turn white and [some] faces will turn black. As for those whose faces turn black, [to them it will be said], "Did you disbelieve after your belief? Then taste the punishment for what you used to reject."
"Abud Darda' reported God’s messenger as saying, “God created Adam when He created him and struck his right shoulder and brought forth his offspring white like small ants. And he struck his left shoulder and brought forth his offspring black as though they were charcoal. Then He said to the party on his right side, ‘To paradise, and I do not care’ and He said to the party in his left shoulder, ‘To hell, and I do not care’.”"
Reference : Mishkat al-Masabih 119
In-book reference : Book 1, Hadith 112
White people knew about and used to intermarry with black people before Islam. There was even a black African Roman emperor Septimius Severus and early black Christian saints like St Maurice. It was established history that most of the native people from the Levant through North Africa where Arabs are now were all black too. Ancient histories from Greece and Rome tell of this. Arabs obliterated black history and depopulated North Africa by selling the natives to white people then they kidnapped white people and forced them into slavery. That's actually where colourism comes from. People ignore Islamic colonialism/imperialism and that is why black people will never get over the the issue of colour. Looking for the root in the wrong place.
I’m shocked he even doubted her. She looks just like him with mom’s complexion
She’s a beautiful young lady . You can tell by the facial structure. Cheek bones and all that shes his child . Praying for her and her family ❤
she’s* his* child
@@cachemoneydotexe no sh****t …. Obviously!!!
@@ItsjustK96 thanks for correcting it, love 😘
As a black father, I was so disturbed by this episode. HORRIBLE example of a father and a man!! Unfortunately, this level of ignorance permeates our communities and is long lasting.
You’re like the only one, I appreciate you!
Dad did some horrible. Why bring this up after 23 years!
lol! 🤣🤣🤣As a black father you🫵know what his issues is really about. It’s obvious he plaid himself with his pride into believing that high yellow shit can take him further in life to find something better than what he already had. And he broke down his own daughter heart because he’s hurt by destroying the greatest thing he ever had in his life with that child’s honest loyal mother. Plus He didn’t say one one honest thing about himself while on that stage. Because he wasn’t just young when he lucked up and made a baby with a good loyal woman back then. He was young and foolish to listen to other people negative comments about the greatest loyal woman he will ever have in miserable his life.
Let’s not forget, he has been consistently in her life all along. He made a mistake, I don’t think his character should be judged because of that.
Daddies maybe
It’s 2024 and ppl are still basing DNA off color of skin? Grow a brain and open your mind smh.
You’re 3 days wrong it’s now 2024 I do completely agree. I wish our people would stop doing that.
@@AshNicoleMediaLmao omg you right. I forgot
Today is the 5th of January tho🤔
For real, it's ridiculous. My daughter is like 2 shades lighter than both her father and I, but she's very much ours. We need to stop this mentality.
The “you not father” before the results were read made me think he doesn’t want to be the father. That’s where his heart was at.
Exactly!
I would never tell a child that I raised that they didn’t belong to me.😢
My mom had two dark skinned parents. And she was lightskinned. Her father's family didn't believe it she was his because of her complexion. It can also skip generations too.
Black people can be born in all different shades no matter what shade their family is
My mother was high yellow!
But my father is dark skinned.
My brother came out high yellow like my mother and I came out dark skinned like my father.
WTH 🤦🏽♀️
I hope he didn’t torture her for nothing.
Because we as women are very sensitive about our looks.
Yes! I know a set of twins who have a mixed mom who looks almost white. Their dad is dark skinned. One twin came out light and the other dark. Three boys I grew up with have a dark mom and a yellow dad. The oldest son came out a mixture between the two. The middle son came out yellow, and the last son came out dark. It happens... We don't inherit an exact 50% of whatever makes up our parents' dna. It's random. A mom with two kids could be 75% African, 20% European, and 5% Native American, for example. One child could inherit 40% African, 10% European, and none of the Native American, while the other child could inherit 40% African, 8% European, and 2% Native American. The specific ethnicities and percentages our parents give us are very random and differ between siblings.
girl yes! it wrecks my brain on how ignorant people can be
Same in my family my sister came out light like my mom and I came out dark like my dad. 33 years later he decided to ask for a DNA test even though my sister took his whole face. It broke my sister and the relationship I had with him. It’s hard for me to have a relationship with him knowing he disowned my sister.
Similar situation. My father is brown (with a dark skinned mother and a possibly 1/4 mixed father). 5 out of 7 children of his are light skinned, one brown, and the other (my full-blooded brother) is a weird in-between (he was light as a child but got darker when he started working in a garden). My mother is light skinned and has two previous children on the darker shade of brown. But me and my brother are light. My father doesn’t question any of it though since we all look like him and our siblings anyway. His genes are strong apparently lol
why you use lightskin emojis then? 🤦🏾♀️
that "she looks nothing like me" was PURE colorism. she got his eyes, bone structure, and all. some men can't help but be deadbeats fr. he got his parents check and wanted any reason for it to only be his and not his children's. by the story we heard, he won't there for them either. he better hope he doesn't end up alone and in a retirement home with nothing but his money to keep him warm and comfort him.
You’re right, I won’t let him end up that way bc 2 wrongs don’t make a right.
@@Mamashayshay that’s awfully kind of you because unfortunately many men end up that way according to my friend who works in a retirement home due to choices they made towards their women and children in their younger days. he’s lucky you’re very forgiving and i know that isn’t easy. i wish you the best on your journey 🙏🏾
@@onyxgothiccyou know, we all deserve second chances. I just believe in love, however that looks for, I appreciate you ❤
They even have the same posture and everything. Looks more like him than her mama
So true the structure of the face, I said she is right off the top!
The daughter and her mother are both very beautiful. They both seem very resilient.
Thankyou I appreciate you ❤
He is so emotionally abusive. How he treated his daughter's mother on national television is indicative of the type of individual 😮that he is. The fact that Tish could have lost her life whilst driving 🚗 is 😮 really painful.
I actually cried. Why would a man insult other human beings like that; where is love, where is humanity?
I would have run off 😢 stage and collapsed from embarrassment. I mean his daughter was even pregnant. Also when he said I popped her once and she said she was pregnant; that is not my child SMH.
I am happy Karamo addressed the issue of the ramifications. I hope she is a believer because only believers🙏 could truly forgive the sad, painful attack upon his daughter and her mother. I am actually still crying. God bless the ladies please heal them. 🙏 ❤
He threw away 28 years of a father daughter relationship. He has no idea why she was crushed .
I understand the whole point, but we have to understand that the world is waking up to a new reality, where men has fathered children from babes to adults, and then come to know the child or children are not theirs , so we have to give and take, sometimes is not what we do, but how we do it!
I’m tired of parents hurting their kids then act like it’s their fault for their lack of maturity!!! This is so sad and he should be ashamed of himself but unfortunately he’s not!!!😢
RIGHT. It’s crazy, have me re evaluating myself 🤦🏽♀️
She looks like him and is like a couple shades darker. Color shouldn’t dictate DNA. Thats crazy.
This was HORRIBLE! OMG this hurt me so bad because I'm not understanding HOW it was so easy for him to believe other people and hurt that girl like he did. I absolutely understand the MOM's reactions. Even after the results, he still didn't fully apologize to her without saying "but" and it as so sad. She is beautiful like mom.
It wasn't just other people that convinced him, he said that he had multiple kids that turned out not be his. He said he was suspicious from the start, I believe he genuinely just gave up on his suspicions and took care of her whether he thought she was his or not given his past situations but the reality kept haunting him until she got older and it backfired on him.
@@Mannymoe3ain’t that his fault for sleeping with random people?
Uhhh cuz women do lie about who the real father is. Cant blame men anymore for asking a DNA rest
For clout, he knew that my cousin was his..
Thankyou.
That man says he’s sorry, and he certainly is a sorry excuse for a father and a human being. If this were my father, I would not forgive him.
I would never look at him the same, and I would distance myself from him BIG TIME
She’s beautiful like her mom! Thank goodness!
Thank you 😘
She looks like dad though
She looks JUST like her father. He's an idiot for making this an issue.
She and her mom have BEAUTIFUL SKIN....she has his nose and mouth...Just BEAUTIFUL
Thanks a lot ❤
And eyebrows
She needs to leave him alone. How could a daughter trust a father after this. Disgusting 🤢 😢
True. I feel bad for feeling that way though?
I wouldn't want anything to do with that Devil
@@Mamashayshaydo some reading on going No contact with a narcissist. So much material on this topic. ❤
It's been in our life most of the time and he had doubts
Now you women think he's a devil
And don't let him see the grand kids and that's enough of broken family
She’s really beautiful 🥹
The father looks so proud of himself when she said he’s light skinned.
Right! 😂
smh
Well he is. Is he supposed to be ashamed? He was an ass yes but he can be proud of his skin and anyone else can be.
He’s terrible he literally said “you are not the father” before the dna test results like how are you gonna raise someone for almost 26 years and not care wtf 😢
That’s the most hurtful,
You think you have a dad
And it turns out now he don’t really love you and can’t be that great of a man if you would hurt her like this way
I’m not mad at him, because a lot of women sometimes do and sometimes don’t know who the father is of their child.
@@thinktank4768yeah but he had no reason to besides the fact that he was a hoe . Not every woman get around like that .
True, EVEN if it turned out that she was not his daughter, he should not have behaved like that.
@thinktank4768 true but why take his anger on her
She isn't even dark skinned. She is brown skinned and it shouldn't even matter because we can come out in all different shades. It doesn't even matter if the parents are light skinned, the baby can come out dark or vice versa or any sort of combination. My mom has light skin and my skin is brown skinned. Throughout my extended family, we range in shades of brown. Light to darker.
It’s doesn’t matter if she’s a different or dark skin. He’s the father!
Literally my boyfriend and I are both brown skinned and our son is light skinned with green eyes. Black women carry the Eve gene and can produce literally ANY shade
@@leylanormil6511stop the eve gene lie, it’s just genetics.
@@janefonda5851the eve gene is literally genetics…
Thank you. I am not that dark, but my skin is darker than my siblings.
He seemed excited to prove he wasn’t the father. And he thinks “sorry give me a hug” will change that? Some people.
He loves her and she loves him. He has provided for her all so they know the love is there. Prayers of healing to this young lady. 🙏🏾
Love him from a distance. TRUST
my heart shatterd when she said she was pregnant and dealing with all this
Man, mines still feels shattered, months later. But thanks ❤
@@MamashayshayI pray your pregnancy goes well
They literally have the saaaame jawline! Karamo don’t even read the results, WE KNOW
lol I appreciate you, try telling him that though.
Yes! And their eyebrow ridge, she look like him all the way
I literally said the same thing
Yes!, My thought exactly! 💯
This is crazy they’re acting like she’s completely dark skin and looks nothing like him she’s a few shades darker than him with the exact same face as him this colourism thing needs to stop. It’s ignorant and stupid!
i thought it was just me..she looks like a darker version of him with a sprinkle of her mother
She looks just like him, and she is not dark skin just a little more brown wtf
Thank you, I appreciate you. I thought I looked like him too, but apparently he can’t see that.
I came looking for this comment because I thought she looked just like him in the face! I don’t even understand how he had questions.
My heart goes out to her.
I grew up in Ms and experienced colorism, prejudices and jealousy. We need to do better about each other.
We come in different shades, phenotypes and hair textures.
She’s a beauty ! ❤️
This was sickening.
One thing I learned is that physical wounds can heal, but words will last a lifetime, so be cautious with them. Because she will never forget his words and his actions on the stage.
Daddy’s girl here. I would never be the same or see him the same. Hope she heals ❤️
Definitely I was. Thanks a lot 🙏🏽 I pray I heal as well ❤
Women who put a lot of trust and respect to men, usually end up disappointed. If he fails you somehow, don't let that destroy your life
@@MamashayshayI pray for your healing as well, God got you babe
I cried for ya shay shay this heart my heart this -rich
I saw this in my own family, it's truly a sickness. My dad was black and my mom was white, I came out looking Italian or Jewish. My dad had another daughter before me with a black woman, I was always given preferential treatment and it's crazy because I've always been proud of my black heritage too regardless of what I look like. Some people in my father's family encouraged me to pass as white as much as possible to get ahead, some people are really still grappling with self-hate to this day! Dark skin is beautiful but I would never classify this young lady as darkskinned, she has brown skin and the fact that people in her father's family denied her and insulted her complexion is sick
Agree
When she said she was pregnant as well my heart broke for her 💔 Her father is childish
I don't think she is his.....but I will wait to see.
Jewish is white. Hebrew is brown.
Did you watch the whole thing ?
I don’t blame children when they disown their families 😢
Definitely disowning this man SMH
The fact that black folks don’t know that we all come in different shades blows me away every time.
It's as if they missed the biology lesson on Punnett Square 🙄
@@lovebug6388 right ! As if we don’t see people of different shades in our families. It’s so weird.
@@valenciaaniese when I was born I looked like a cute baby sumo wrestler. Looked just as Japanese as they come. Straight coal black hair and slanted eyes. My father was Biggie's complexion and my mother was Faith's complexion. His family made the comment that I wasn't his as well. My mother had some not so nice words for them...
10:18 “You are a CLOWN! You can take off the suit, NOW TAKE IT OFF”🤣🤣🤣
Yes mama don’t play, in real life lol.
Haven’t seen the results yet but…
She IS NOT DARK skinned- the dad is NOT that light skinned! 👓 🤓
Update- he WAS the daddy!? Why would he do that!???
I always say DNA should be mandatory at birth regardless… but he should’ve done that silently like Karamo said 😔
Absolutely he should have. Got me going crazy mentally & summore’ but I appreciate you.
K . We have native blood. The terms we use are light & dark. We could say penny or nickel too; it won’t matter.
In the words of Tiffany New York Pollard "If you're black and standing in it, stand in it in ALL SHADES" and Karamo know because he was sitting on a couch across from her when she said it
When was this?
@Karamo is real as hell. I appreciate how he gets to the facts and the truth when it comes to behavior, consequences and outcomes. I respect it!
When I say I’m so grateful I’ve been talking about the topic for months and I never knew other people understood as a black 17 year old young woman colorism has had its way with me my father is also not black but I’m not extremely lightskin I’m brow skin I even hear it from our own kind I just hope the world would open up and accept everyone because I to once felt I needed to be lighter to be beautiful also 🤦🏽♀️
OMG this is so triggering. I was denied because I was brown too. It really hits at the core
I’m so sorry❤❤❤❤
Where do we go from here? Keep spreading love & living in Gods grace 😘
I'm sorry
Tears
It's so sad but unfortunately it happens alot in our community. Both of my parents is high yellow but I turned out dark-skinned the same complexion as my grandmother on my father side. And by the way I'm her twin. I Thank God that my dad didn't reject me because of my complexion. A father and daughter relationship is golden. So hearing a dad say that about his daughter is heartbreaking 💔. He got a lot of work to do to repair that relationship.
This happened to me. Both of my parents are brown skin and I was a high yellow baby when I was born and my father thought I wasn’t his b/c his friends were putting that in his head. My mother said “she’s my baby”. Colorism is real and it’s messed up what kids go through and the mother of the child.
Family, thank you for sharing your story, you are helping our community. God bless you.
She's so beautiful
Sad part he knew deep down inside he was the father he had his own reason to why he wanted to deny her so sad
He is running from his responsibilities!
Yes you are right. That’s how I am feeling, I just don’t know what that reason is?
He got some money now, so he's extra paranoid that the world is out to get him. What a loser 😂
He took care of her, she acknowledged others were jealous of how he treated her vs other bio kids. He upset with mama; feels like she moved on & thats the pain source for him. He said "what about (moms name)". Want to hurt old love - deny your shared child.
@@cassandracrayton6727 i agree
I appreciate everyone for their kind words. I am taking time & care for myself. Thanks everybody ❤️
🥰🥰
Take care of yourself sis but never mind the comments of this people they are out there to use words to destroy your relationship more with your father,he was wrong for what he did but forgive and forget and create new memories and build your relationship more. I wish you God's blessings 🙏🙏🙏
@@obajemubenedicta7424AMEN 🙏🏽 thanks a lot & I appreciate you.
You are beautiful. I knew it. You look like him to me
You are beautiful and have a good heart, if I were in your shoes I would not hug him after the DNA results
My daughter went through the same exact thing. Their dad was very fair skinned and my daughter is my complexion or darker. She's 28 now and has daddy issues because she never had that bond with him. His family are color struck and love my son and my bi racial grand daughter but my daughter and her kids doesn't get that love. I was a virgin the first time I had intercourse and got pregnant. Even offered a DNA test that he never shown for
For him to yell out YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER right before she opened the results was wild
For the man to say "he's not" before his daughter opened the envelope means he wishes she wasn't his and that's an all time low.
My sentiments exactly!
He wanted to drop a child most likely cause he's a bum. And he made her feel his insecurities over and over for years. He doesn't deserve to be a grandpa to her child.
How is he a bum when his daughter said, that he was always there in her life, through college, graduation, he got her a car at 16 and she kept saying he was always there and the others were jealous and you call him a bum? He could have gone about establishing paternity in a more respectful way, but how is he a bum? Why doesn’t he deserve to be a grandpa to her child? Yall are always extreme.
Her feeling down for him saying to her face I'm not your dad and the colorism comments is wats getting her@@hazelboyce7230
@@hazelboyce7230 it’s not just about financial, he has psychologically abused his daughter
@@hazelboyce7230 he was literally a bum to his other kids though…they said he was barely in their life lmaoo y’all pick and choose the information to remember. he’s a bum through and through and just wanted that inheritance money to himself.
@@onyxgothicc Are those the same ones that he said the DNA tests proved aren’t his? Based on what he said, he had things happen in his life and he had to sit at the altar and he found out some of the children placed on him are not his. I guess part of the inheritance was that the paternity of all of his children be confirmed. Why don’t yall tell women stop sleeping raw with several men at the same time, so there is no doubt who fathered their children. Yall love to come for the men and call them all sorts of names but I don’t ever hear yall tell the women stop sleeping around.
My father is Native American from the Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma and is that man’s complexion and my mother is brown skinned African American. Im also an enrolled member of our tribe. I grew up in Detroit. I’ve heard so many things about how I don’t look this or don’t look like that but baby genetics are something else no matter WHAT others whisper in your ear about who you look or don’t look like. I know she’s hurt. She looks like her dad especially in her facial features. I wish colorism bs would stop but unfortunately it never will. Everyone always wants to categorize others and fill in these blanks. To One group of people, you’re too this and to another group of people, you’re too that. SMH I’ve been told I don’t look like I’m part Native or I look Asian and black or I look maybe white and black or I look “full black” but maybe a teeny bit mixed with something else…the comments are sick and crazy to me. I feel her pain and hope she heals from this! He sounds like he has a bunch of kids out there and like he’s just irresponsible looking to throw responsibilities away. SMH his daughter is beautiful! He should be proud!
That's what I got from this was that they all have Native blood
@@teegreen3909we do.
"id do anything for her" minutes after denying she was his unbelievable
Exactly. I am still trying to process his comments months later frfr.
To be fair, he did say he still wanted to be in her life cuz she's still gonna be his daughter, but if you wait 23yrs just keep quiet sir😅
this man infuriated me.
when i was a baby, one of my dad's "friends" looked at me (i'm light skinned and dad's dark) and told him he oughta get a DNA test on me. pops looked at him crazy. he knew i was his with everything in him and NO ONE could influence him as easily as this man was.
I feel you Young Lady. I am a dark skinned female and it was hurtful growing up in my family and in my community. I'm 65 now and it still hurts what people really think ( stupidly of coarse ). It took my entire life for the whole damn world to look at a dark person's features snd not just be repulsed by the color of their skin. My own mother called me black. This was before we were black and proud. I isolated and read. What i came to to conclusion to arrest my mind was to realuze and even once said as a child, " if you don't want a child on the darker side; just don't sleep with anyone of that shade. Especially if you feel that way. You end up not being able to love your child because you have dumb ass ideolgy
This is very sad. I am very dark skinned and love my color. My mom is biracial my siblings look as my mother and I'm the only dark one. I love my complexion and wouldn't change it for the world.
Love sis ❤
Genetics run deep. I’m dark and my hubby is brown skinned. Our baby light skin as hell lmao I hope I don’t have these problems pray for me y’all.
Just get yall baby tested to avoid it
@@MadeMan-xb2ou if he were to ever question it we headed right to the DNA test place 😂
I would of lost so much respect for my father if I was her. It would take a long time for me to forgive.
Yes I did. But I d k , ig I am just more hurt than anything!
@@Mamashayshay I’m so sorry I pray that y’all relationship is able to heal over time. I wish you and your family the best.
@@GoneColoringI appreciate you mucho thx ❤
But still that MUST be mended. And he need to stop fighting her mother through his child. Because that’s clearly child abuse
@@MamashayshayAs u have every right to be hurt. He never should have expressed his doubts to U. If he really had questions he could have done it privately on his own. That was between him and your mom. I would ask what were his plans if it turned out he wasn't. Why didn't he have a test years ago? He clearly had a plan if u turned out to not be his, i would keep my distance hes too reckless. After raising u and being there for 20 plus it shouldn't have mattered at all.
Genetics is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get.
my mom had a dark skin son and two tan babies, from the same father. we all come in different shades. So childish to think thats a reason thats not your child. glad you could help her
Off topic but her & her mother are beautiful! 🤩
Thankyou ❤
I went through this as a child and look just like the man. He’s family was shitty to me. His father was my bestie. He is now deceased and he was very abusive. So I lived my life without him. I Thank God for allowing me to see what I didn’t want for my children. 💯💯
Who needs enemies to put you down and make you feel unwanted when you’ve got good ol family 😪smh the ppl who are always supposed to have your back are always 1st in line to break you.
Right. Broke my heart. Try to find myself again.
That man needs to grow up. Urgently!
She resembles her father so much. I hope they can work on their relationship.
I just love Karamo. I can’t say it enough. This precious gem of a young woman is being unnecessarily being put through changes. I hope that while we attempt to deal with our Colorism issues, can we also deal with our bypassing emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. (How dad bypasses his own feelings onto her. ) For the record they have the exact same head shape.
I appreciate you ❤
he needs to take accountability. the problem we have is blaming others for what we have done
I have a light mom and dark father. My 3 brothers are all different shades. This is the reality of black families but no matter what we are kin.
My daughter is lighter than me and her dad. He didnt think she was his. His unfounded anger & accusations ruined our marriage but she is definitely HIS! He started clowning thinking I had cheated and did things you can't undo. Again... our daughter is OUR daughter.
That daughter is YOUR daughter. It's only his if it has his DNA
@@bigdaddy3621she said our daughter so that child is his n there is zéro possibilities of it being someone elses. Wth u talking about
She’s so beautiful!
this whole situation could've been avoided if he had went about his 'doubts' in an adult manner and discussed all this with the mother,instead of directly coming to his daughter only to break her heart with issues he clearly could've ironed out with the mom,bc he did say "i doubted your mother not you".really left the daughter caught in the middle
Thankyou
Hes sitting there clowning saying "you're not the father" before she opened the results just looks like he didn't care about her feelings
He couldn’t have is all I keep telling myself, because like what?
this family is almost the same exact colour...it's not really that big a difference in colour- the father is a fool
I am with Karamo. I am tired of this in our community. You raised this baby you the pappy! This internalized racism and hatred has to go if we are ever going to move ahead as a people.
My daddy is light bright with dark skinned children and he loved us all with no doubt ❤
The nerve of him to say, "You are not!" Smh.
I’m lighter than this girl but my daddy is darker than hers 😂 and my mom is darker than this girls mom but yet I’m light brown. Genetics are weird sometimes.
I am confused about the complexion. We range in all skin tones as blacks. The father also is a brown skin man....he doesn't look "yellow skin" to me.
exactly she is not even dark skin. he’s almost the same colour as her
Well he is yellow. But ur right we do range differently
yes, the show did it for click-bait. It was never about her skin color but the producers knew that it would trigger people to think it was.
Wow “you are not the father” was his comment!! How does he think that makes her feel!
The group hug at the end 😢
Watching this show is showing me how deranged some people really are ! Some people are just messed up
Yes speak it ❤ ur right.
My Mother and Father are Jamaican Indian and light in complexion. They had 5 children including me, 2 are light, 1 is medium and 2 are dark. My cousins range in colour too. Its not surprising to me at all that colourism is still a problem because I've had plenty of people say to me " oh your sister is so pretty and lovely hair" her hair is straighter than mine but mine is longer, but its all down to our skin colour, lighter is seen as more attractive. Its never been an issue between us all as siblings but i hope our children one day won't be hearing stuff like this.
I THINK HE'S BLIND, SHE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE HIM OH LORD😮😮
U think so? Tell him that for me plz.
He'll do anything for her except be an adult. This was the most immature display of a man I have ever seen
I’m so sorry for all of this hurt please forgive him. He’s a clown. Not a bad man just a clown ❤