How Andre Agassi Transformed Karue's Backhand

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  • @tdrewk15
    @tdrewk15 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    TL/DR: I would explain it in this manner. When setting up for a two hander (and really all strokes) the first stage is "loading up". For a righty two hander; the arm, shoulder and core needs to turn/twist to the left to initiate the backswing. By turning your shoulders and core to the left and tucking the shoulder tight you are also loading-up your core/midsection. At this stage the body is fully loaded-up (Coiled up, ready to unwind). The entire right side of the body is where the energy is being stored (You can feel this by simply turning all the way to the left sitting or standing and then feel your abs on the right side, feel how tight they are?), then as you begin your forward swing the initial acceleration is being unleashed (un-coiling) from the core and shoulders. It's a very clear sensation that the entire right side of the body (Core, shoulders, arms) is generating the force by unleashing the stored energy from it's loaded state. This is the initial driving force that creates the acceleration.
    The 2nd stage is related to the contact zone/impact area. It's in this stage where you are "Coding" the ball with it's final instructions (Spin, pace, trajectory, depth etc...). This stage is mostly determined by the hands, meaning hand speed and angle of attack. Like in stage 1, the right hand was likely loaded up (Notice how pros typically cock the racquet head upwards on the backswing?). Then just prior to contact the right hand begins to uncoil, but then at impact and through impact the left hand is the controlling force as it's established behind the ball with the palm facing the same direction as the racquet face. The right hand while stronger, simply doesn't have the leverage and position to "code" the ball with it's final instructions. Because of all the leverage and force generated by the right side of the body, the left hand is able to leverage all the momentum to impart pace, spin, and trajectory and it's why the left hand become ultimately most critical in determining the balls speed, target and RPM.
    A simple way to think of it is, the right side of the body is mostly providing the energy, momentum and stability, and the left hand is providing the final instructions to the ball. Because all righties have less dexterity and coordination in the left hand, it's common for coaches/instructors to teach the two hander as a lefty forehand. It's not wrong and it's not right, it's just not explained properly. What you are really trying to do is to improve hand speed and coordination between the loaded right hand and the left hand providing final code.
    This reply was intended to be short until it wasn't

    • @info781
      @info781 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep only the last paragraph and you are good

    • @Dubinski2382
      @Dubinski2382 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The question I always have is how you teach yourself the proper balance and footwork to allow yourself to coil while also moving and tracking the ball. Coiling in place is hard enough (see golf and baseball)...the movement element and last minute adjustments to the ball make it that much harder.

    • @tdrewk15
      @tdrewk15 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Dubinski2382 ​ That's a really great question. For beginners and intermediates (4.0 and below) it's very challenging since players at these levels do not have the highly refined ability to predict the landing spot, speed, spin, bounce angle that advanced players have from seeing most every type of shot thousands of times. To improve you have to break down the process into steps...
      1. Stroke development: In order to develop strong repeatable strokes and the proper habits and muscle memory, it's important to remove movement from the process. This is why you will see teaching pros (and ball machines) feeding balls to players to work on stroke development and removing the movement aspect. Developing the initial shoulder turn, then loading-up and the remainder of the swing is best developed in this manner.
      2. Movement and balance: As the stroke begins to becomes fundamentally sound, then the player can begin working on movement towards the ball (Initial shoulder turn and other pre-shot steps) in controlled amounts trying to prevent the stoke from breaking down. In this phase the player can work of various footwork skills and open and closed stance hitting.
      3. Perfecting timing and positioning: This final phase comes with time and commitment while continually working on the 1st two phases (Even Novak Djokovic works on the 1st two phases continuously). It takes hundreds/thousands of hours to refine your "biological calculator" to position yourself in the best possible position to execute the stroke/shot.
      As your ability to predict the ball improves with time, all 3 phases appear to be 1 fluid motion and an advanced player is born. Then you are privileged to endure the lifelong frustration and satisfaction of continually trying perfect all 3 phases. It never stops.

  • @jonathanchen1026
    @jonathanchen1026 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The right side leads, left follows

    • @aca2077
      @aca2077 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Opposite

  • @tampaed
    @tampaed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Listen to agassi commentating in 2007 the roger federer andy roddick match. He broke down the flaw of Roddick's backhand.

    • @user-go8oj4dl4w
      @user-go8oj4dl4w 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He swings from out to in?

    • @tampaed
      @tampaed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@user-go8oj4dl4w Agassi really breaks it down at the beginning of the match at the 2007 US Open quarterfinals. Agassi is brought in as a guest commentator. Agassi said: "Roddick definitely has a fundamental issue with his backhand. The Best backhands in the world have a strong right hand. "He hits the ball with his left hand. He has a weak right grip, and he pushes the backhand with his left hand. . . . I hit, primarily, my backhand with my right hand until I made contact, then I let the racquet head come around at the end."

    • @paularnaud923
      @paularnaud923 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tampaed I am a bit late to respond but thank you for sharing !

  • @AFenderson
    @AFenderson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The racquetflex dudes have this for a while- start with right and have the left take over. Makes sense to me!

  • @DragonFly525
    @DragonFly525 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this video is gold

  • @JohnSmith-pb4ri
    @JohnSmith-pb4ri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks. Been playing for over a year and a half using a one hander. But I'm going to try switching to a two hander tomorrow.

    • @changeoverpodcast
      @changeoverpodcast  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck!

    • @acjohn6995
      @acjohn6995 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am a stocky dude who doesn't have a big upper body turn, I have always played with a two-hander, but felt like I could not get enough twist to put a good finish on the ball. I tried a one-hander for a while and while you can get easier angles on the ball since you have more freedom and reach with just one hand, a one-hander simply does not have the consistency of a two. I find myself really struggling with high balls especially, with a two hander you can make that last millisecond adjustment if the ball takes a weird hop into you or the wind catches it, with a one hander, you MUST take it early and in the right spot, else you try to strong-arm it and you will tire out your arm/shoulder. That's been my experience with it so far; only a few pros can really make a one-hander work with the timing. Those are my thoughts as a 4.0 type player.

  • @vivahernando1
    @vivahernando1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watch the best two handlers on tour Djoko, Sinner, Zverev, Meddy, their left hand is pretty flexible and give the control/top/margin

  • @geausportequipment
    @geausportequipment 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, this is like learning that we all live in a matrix. I'm going to have to try this next time I'm on the court.

  • @nalinsharma3203
    @nalinsharma3203 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The two handed backhand, I feel is more of a cricket shot. For me its best if left only provide the stabililty and power but the right does all the guiding with some power

  • @williamc4221
    @williamc4221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every player with a really good two-handed backhand can also hit a pretty good one-handed backhand. None of the people who overuse their non-dominant hand on their two-handed backhands can hit good one-handed backhands.

    • @alastairtheduke
      @alastairtheduke หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've yet to see a really good one hander from a two hander, and vice versa

  • @sarkology
    @sarkology 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Correct. If it was left hand for power then open stance 2H BH wouldn’t be weak. But it is weak. Because need to be closed stance for the right arm power to come into play. Just like a 1 hander

    • @CJZM7777
      @CJZM7777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Belinda Bencic has a great 2HBH and she hits almost exclusively semi-open stance. But, she uses a strong non-dominate L hand stroke. I actually like Karew's advice to get the dominate R hand involved and especially early in the stroke.

  • @kiesbett
    @kiesbett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think there is nothing wrong with djokovics backhand 😂 to say the least. It is one of the best. and when i watch and study his backhand in slomo, i have the clear impression that his left arm ist leading through contact and is nearly straight at contact. right arm (nearly) straight on take back, chin over shoulder, racket head above handlevel. I think this first part of the stroke, the take back and the racket drop is indeed more like a one handed backhand. But then, at contact, comes the left arm into play, which imo should be nearly straight at contact. Two years ago i started to transform my backhand into this direction and in match situation it has become more solid and precise than my forehand.
    So maybe Agassi has the best two handed backhand of all time (?), but i simply can not follow his approach and feeling with the role of the right hand on the backhand.maybe others do, i do not know. Or i do misundertand him and he refers on the mentioned first part of the stroke. Still training anyway in front of the wall the one handed backhand and a lefty forehand, while on the lefty forehand i focus on the straight left arm at contact. all the best from germany

  • @youngsuit
    @youngsuit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    coria was also basically lefty. my brain is refusing to process this lol

  • @williewasahippie
    @williewasahippie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could always rip my 1HBH. But with two hands, it's so weak and awkward feeling (like only 20% power). I just cannot generate the racket head speed that I get with the 1HBH. The 2HBH feels so restrictive and slow by comparison. But that's due to 45 years of hitting the 1HBH. :)

    • @changeoverpodcast
      @changeoverpodcast  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The 1 hand bh is more free, you’re able to swing faster. With 2 hands, it becomes more important to transfer your body weight into the direction you’re moving (ideally into the direction you want the ball to go). This makes up for some of what’s lost in racket head speed. Hope that helps 🙏

    • @williewasahippie
      @williewasahippie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@changeoverpodcast Makes total sense. The 2HBH is easier for juniors to learn and helps with consistency. The 1HBH, when mastered, is more versatile and can be more of a weapon. I'd introduce beginners to both so they could decide which they preferred.

  • @grokker99
    @grokker99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This info is gold. And Tiafoe's mechanics, which are so ugly, only work bc hes got the fast twitch muscles to pull it off.

  • @smashthestateX
    @smashthestateX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    use a 1 hander then and shave ur mayonnaise mustache

    • @youngsuit
      @youngsuit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

  • @bournejason66
    @bournejason66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s a very weird take on power comes from pull rather than push. If you were to move a heavy object with one hand, will you push it with left arm or pull it with right arm? The push will always win.

    • @JohnSmith-pb4ri
      @JohnSmith-pb4ri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't come from your arm, it comes from the core of your body. If you're going to pick up a medicine ball and throw it, the core of the body has to lead the way. Then then momentum of the core and right side transfers to the left is as you hit the ball. I don't hit a two hander but it makes sense to me.

    • @amsd1231
      @amsd1231 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you play golf you'd know what he is talking about. At the peak of the coil and the start of the swing almost all of the acceleration and the load goes on your leading arm. Then as your body rotates, the load slowly moves to the trailing arm. At the apex of the swing and contact both of your arms are working equally. From contact to follow through it's your trailing arm that transfers most of the rotational energy.

    • @kgill99
      @kgill99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not about power as either hand could generate power, but you need control so it’s all about the right arm cos if you’re right handed that’s where all your skill is!

    • @jamescoates9308
      @jamescoates9308 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right hand dominant two-handers have a natural, more pronounced and consistent shoulder turn. That's where the power and control comes from. Also makes the shot a lot simpler and keeps the technique secure to produce a really clean penetrating ball.
      Left hand dominant two-handers often don't have the same level of shoulder rotation and often muscle the ball with the left side. But they get the benefit of being able to hit late of the bounce and still have some control.
      Agassi is the best modern example of being fully left hand dominant. But also Connors back in the day. Djokovic and Nalbandian strike the balance between the two nest so they can get the best of each depending on the situation.

    • @bournejason66
      @bournejason66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnSmith-pb4ri yes the core does the work. And push (where your body is behind ) is a much more efficient way to transfer energy than pull( where your body is in front of you)

  • @evgeniyvodenicharov1281
    @evgeniyvodenicharov1281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes guys you are away to young and lacking of enough experience on the field, if I can make suggestion the way to understand better the specific biomechanics is not a youtube studio for sure ... 🧐

  • @martianmatters
    @martianmatters 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U r so slow.