He Wakaputanga the ACTUAL story Part 1

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2023
  • #HeWakaputanga, #TeTiriti, #The Treaty of Waitangi

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  • @mkfaulkner7894

    Tio, our Maori document is called Te Tiriti 3 paragraphs long, the pakeha version is called the treaty. So much controversy re: 1840 Treaty, should be scrapped & let's go back to the original document He Whakaputanga 1835 signed by the King.

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Helen Clark and other members of the NZ parliament stated on National Televison that they do not have a written constitution. For those who claim that they have no written Constitution are those who claim that they are in fact, lawless......

  • @DW_Kiwi

    Ok. What was on the mind of the British and what was on their heart for a Treaty with Maori in 1840. I see that it was to bring protection, Law and Order for all inhabitants of New Zealand. The British had to have Sovereignty so that they could bring "common Law". Then then had right to Govern this land.

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    DOI Article 4, "...... they entreat that he (The King) will continue to be the parent of their infant State, and that he will become it's protector from all attempts upon its Independence". The DOI 1835 was the forerunner to Te Tiriti o Waitangi, has a flag to symbolize Tribal Rights to trade as Independent Nations. Has been ignored for years by the NZ parliament and the education system.

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    TOW Article 1, "The Chiefs of the Confederation and the Chiefs all also who have not entered that Confederation give also to the Queen of England for the Government over all their Land". Article 2 "The Queen of England arranges and agrees to give to the Chiefs and the Sub-Tribes of the Māori People of NZ the Unqualified Exercise of their Chieftainship over their Lands, their Villages and over all Treasures............"

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    Te Tiriti o Waitangi (TOW) 1840 (Non-Territorial) is just an amendment to the DOI. On the 6th of February 1840 prior to the signing of the TOW, the Chiefs, exercising their powers under Article 2 of the DOI, gave to the Queen these people, they ceded sovereignty over the British subjects to the Queen of England, also noted in Articles 1 & 2 of the TOW

  • @honahwikeepa2115

    David Lange said this in 1980. "The Treaty of Waitangi was forged in a time when categories mattered, we don't live in that world anymore." In 1973 the UK abandoned NZ for the EEC. NZ went broke overnight. Modernity died. The categories that Lange spoke about are the absolute moral categories of the Bible that are rooted in the Method of Antithesis in human reason process whereby intellectual certainty is guaranteed. It was not practiced consistent with these categories. In our current Postmodern Post-Christian day interpretation of anything is a matter for the individual. There is no universal truth, just what I think. Furthermore the Treaty ignored those that watch both signatories arrive.

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    Accordingly, with regards to terms of protection and representation, Her Majesty took up the role of Māori Trustee, over all the Lands of All the People Māori. The Preamble of TOW, to be very clear, continued Article 4 of the DOI, witnessed by British Resident James Busby in 1835, the first Constitutional Act of the State of Aotearoa.

  • @jdrei5080
    @jdrei5080 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The 'actual story' is but one Version.

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Whose title to the soil and to the Sovereignty of NZ is indisputable and has been solemnly recognized by the British Government" And " ... the admission of their Rights.... is binding on British Crown. Indeed, it was predicted in the Treaty that there would be need to protect a numerous and inoffensive people from Her Majesty's subjects of bad or doubtful character whom,...

  • @DellaStone-dy9yt

    Things have changed since the treaty was signed. Land has come back to the tribes and money now what has the Maori,s that are in government done for their people?

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Declaration of Independence (DOI) 1835 of NZ is an International Declaration, recognizes the Sovereignty of the Independent Tribes of NZ. (Territorial).

  • @robioxaiamaipro7349

    Toitu He Whakaputanga 1835

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    .... So as to avert continuance of such evil consequences of such a lawless state; as expressed by Lord Normanby with consideration to the findings of Westminster Parliament House of Commons inquiry of 1836-1839 that; "Māori must not be permitted to enter into any contracts in which they might be the ignorant and unintentional authors of injuries to themselves", The Crown of England entered into a Treaty of Protection with the People Māori.

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    ... declare the Independence of our country, which is hereby Constituted and declared to be an Independent State, under the designation of the United Tribes of New Zealand. Article 2, All sovereign power and authority within the territories of the United Tribes of New Zealand is hereby declared to reside entirely and exclusively in......

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    ... the hereditary chief's and heads of tribes in their collective capacity, who also declare that they will not permit any legislative authority separate from themselves in their collective capacity to exist, nor any function of government to be exercised within the said territories, unless by persons appointed by them in Congress assembled.

  • @iamdennistoned
    @iamdennistoned 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Who is this fulla?

  • @jamescrydeman540

    Such a document as the treaty is meaningless when approached by individual clauses. It is same as other contracts in that the various clauses make up a whole . I have struggled so often over the years with union members and employers trying to use an individual clause to represent the whole, this is sometimes done in innocence but often with a more sinister intent. As far as the treaty is concerned Maoridom ceded any sovereignty for equality. The treaty was only ever going to offer that else the latter day colonists would not have come, people who were escaping the old class systems of Europe.

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns วันที่ผ่านมา

    .... having fled Her Majesty's penal settlements and, deserting their ships had, for the purpose of trade, resorted to the shores of NZ. And so, in consequence of the crime and outrage that such persons did inflict upon the Kingdom of Māori And, ..... (Missing words below) "of Protection with the People Māori"

  • @nicholastaylor3638

    The Streets of Tears Ceremony.Te Tiriti O Waitangi.he Whakaputanga is a lithograph facsimile doctrid.portwaikato is where The Poineer Gun boat n other Canon boats entered waikato River n blasted every bend in the river.Robert Maunsell infiltrated maori whanu/family through his religion.n recon his info bk to British soldiers.