"Clutch engaged" from a technician perspective is literally that, the clutch (think disc) engaged meaning the clutch PEDAL is up. I believe I know what you are saying, speaking from a driver perspective the pedal down is engaged, just understand under that condition the clutch disc is actually disengaged. Yeah I'm sure. It's all about varying pressure on the pedal and having that change the noise. You are varying the load on the bearing. We test bearings like that regularly.
@@paulkelley86 No, im talking about it from a "technician" perspective. The throw out bearing would be making sound when the clutch is engaged. The TOB spins with the clutch. From a driver perspective, the clutch pedal down is still clutch engaged, but i understand what you mean that most people view it that way and it can be misunderstood. I currently have 2 cars, where the problem is opposit from eachother. On one of them, the sound is there when in neutral and clutch engaged. Sound dissapears when i disengage the clutch. On the other, the sound isnt there in neutral with clutch engaged. But if i disengage the clutch, the sound comes, and i can control it with the pedal.
@Ruudiii The clutch disc stops spinning when the clutch pedal is down, this is clutch disengaged, period. Clutch engaged is pedal up, disc spinning and connecting the flywheel to the input shaft of the transmission as a result of the clamping force provided by the pressure plate, period. If your pedal is down, your clutch is disengaged. With that being said, I recommend you watch the other 2 videos I linked in the description to understand better. One of them is the "opposite" of this video where a pilot bearing is making noise. To be sure it's clear, the throw out bearing doesn't exactly spin with the clutch, the inner race of the bearing contacts the clutch disc, so it may loosely spin with the clutch when the pedal is up but there is little to no actual force passing through the bearing. The outer race is the housing of the bearing which is commonly clipped or attached some way to the release fork, which absolutely does not spin. The whole point of the video is that you are varying the force on the bearing with pedal pressure, if the noise changes pitch with varying pressure, it's an issue with the release aka throw out bearing. Again, yes, I am sure.
@@paulkelley86 "The clutch disc stops spinning when the clutch pedal is down, this is clutch disengaged, period. Clutch engaged is pedal up, disc spinning and connecting the flywheel to the input shaft of the transmission as a result of the clamping force provided by the pressure plate, period. " Yes, im fully aware??? Thats what im saying?? 🤣 The throw out bearing doesnt spin with the clutch? So youre saying that when the clutch is engaged and the sound is present, it is not the throw out bearing?
We are on the same page now. Throw out bearings don't all fail the same. If it makes the same noise or very similar to this video, and changes pitch with pedal pressure, it's a throw out bearing. The rollers in the bearing and the races have a defect, maybe pitting or spelling, etc. Similar to a wheel bearing, if you increase the force on the bearing, the noise will get worse and louder. However Throw out bearings are also known to get kind of a loose rattle sound, which would stop or quiet down with slight pedal pressure. This is common as well. Especially when they are all full of clutch dust. Again though, the key is the noise changes with pedal PRESSURE not fully engaged vs fully disengaged. Quick comment to address what I am seeing in the comments sowing confusion: yes when you bring the throwout bearing into contact with the pressure plate diaphragm springs you could picture dirty springs making the sound... but let me help you understand. The entire purpose for that bearing is to reduce wear. That's really the purpose of all bearings if you think about it. So if you believe that we are shoving a piece of metal up against those springs which may be spinning every time we let the pedal up, that's crazy. They would be worn down and mangled in no time. That's NOT what happens. The inner race of the throw out bearing is against them at all times. It should not have substantial movement between the two. The springs should be clean sure, but dirty springs are not what is going to cause a noise. If the bearing is stopping, then engaging the spinning springs, the bearing is the problem. It should not be coming to a stop. The fix if it is? The bearing and the entire clutch kit, since the springs are damaged... which started with the throw out bearing. Ok? Now the way you are wording it is very common, people want to make it a question of clutch engaged vs clutch disengaged. That's not really the best way to test a Throw out bearing. That's how you test a pilot bearing vs. Transmission input shaft bearing. If your clutch is engaged, your input shaft is spinning, so if pressing down the pedal and releasing the clutch makes the noise stop.... well... the input shaft stops so it would indicate and issue with the input shaft bearing or depending on the other conditions (neutral? 1st? 4th? Stopped? Moving?) We can have a pretty good indication of the problematic bearing. Take it a step further, which is in the last video listed by the way so for anyone else reading, watch the video because there is a lot of bad information in the comments that I don't run around and correct.... let's say the noise is only occurring when moving and changes with vehicle speed, that's more like an output shaft bearing. Back to clutch engaged/disengaged condition, if you disengage the clutch, the disc stops, the input shaft stops right? Well... the engine crankshaft and flywheel continue to turn.... and remember the input shaft (stopped) is set right into the back of the crankshaft/flywheel (still spinning). So the speed difference would in this situation is the reason we need a pilot bearing or bushing. The pilot bearing outer race spins with the crankshaft the inner race stops with the input shaft. Disengaging the clutch brings out the noise? Look to the pilot bearing. There are a lot of noises and nuisances in the clutch and transmission. After having hundreds of students in class, 99% want to make it clutch engaged noise = throw out bearing l, clutch disengaged nosie = pilot bearing. But see its not that simple and that overlooks any and all transmission bearing noises as a possibility. That's the reason I started making the videos. It's hard to explain and the best way to get people to understand is to get them all on the same page with terms and then show them. That's why I insist on wording it my way, 9 out of 10 people will explain this completely wrong and come up with all sorts of incorrect diagnosis. P.s. I was part of fixing the car in the video, so I have the answer sheet, easier for me.
You can do this exact proceedure, and have a different noise, that's a classic dual mass flywheel failure (mainly found in high performance petrols and in pretty much every modern diesel engine.)
so the noise is from what? squeaky when clutch half pressed would mean bearing is scraping on the springs? when fully pressed noise goes away since the extra pressure makes the bearings actually spin. No scraping. Correct?
This basically confirms my clutch needs looking at by someone who can actually do the job unlike the garage that did the clutch back in August. Fun times as that cost me £165 + a CV Joint and a new clutch at a garage I trust it will cost £250-£270. Cheap for a car but still over 50% of my savings
I'm no expert but I think that's not the noise from the throwout bearing itself. It's true that the bearing is out but that's causing the throwout bearing to rotate with the shaft and rub the clutch pressure plate springs. That's why when you press fully the sound goes away because the worn out bearing requires more pressure to work.
Sounds more like a worn or dirty flywheel/clutch plate. The thrust bearing usually makes a rattly noise when the clutch isn't engaged then goes quiet when the clutch is engaged
I have this sound but with an automatic car. Would this be the same problem or different due to being automatic? It's a 2005 honda jazz for reference. Thanks!
Mine is ever so slightly audible when in neutral at the traffic light. Annoying sound that you won't easily hear, but once you do, you can't unhear it.
I have a car that has about 9 months MOT (UK safety annual check) on it then it’s getting sold for spares. It has this issue and I’m not putting any more money into the car apart from maybe some oil. It’s a Toyota aygo and it’s only just started making this noise. How long would it run with this noise and what’s the worst that could happen? Does this bearing do any work when you are just driving and not changing gear? I mostly do motorway miles. Cheers Jonny
My car ( Daihatsu Trevis, 2006) makes this exact noise when fully depressing the clutch; the noise disappears when releasing the clutch. The clutch engages immediately and feels somewhat heavy. The noise also increases when the car has warmed up, for example, after driving for a while. The clutch has been replaced entirely twice, but the noise keeps coming back. Could it be related to disengagement or incorrectly adjusting the clutch cable? I'm at my wit's end, perhaps you have a tip to look into?
That is possible. If the clutch release cable is too tight it will constantly push on the release fork which will keep the release bearing spinning with some pressure at all times. However My gut feeling is that the release bearings being used may simply be sub quality. This happens all the time.
Could a 100% clutch press with the same or bigger sound/vibration as 50% clutch press and 0% being quiet as it engages normaly after... It's feeling like the clutch is never all seperated from the flywheel but is making an identical sound from this video. I think that the brake/clutch fluid level is a bit lower than the low mark, could this be my problem? Is it worth a try to fill this with brake fluid on my own or is it better to go to a mecanic and they check this problem? [I don't have any of my trust to go, that's why I kinda want to solve it myself :/ ]
my honda has a worn bearing-like noise when in neutral. The sound goes away completely when the clutch pedal is pressed all the way. To add to this, the car shakes a bit when going into 1st from a stop and makes a scratching noise (not similar to gear grind) simultaneously. The shaking/scratching does not happen if i keep the RPMS a little higher when going into 1st though. Other than that, all gears shift smoothly, with the exception of difficulty going into reverse gear sometimes... the car is a 91' from SF so its safe to assume synchros are worn and some gears worn as well. * i have new mounts all the way around ** clutch is a couple years old EXEDY oem .. what do you think this could be? I had a shop do clutch install and another shop replace master/slave cylinder
I experienced nearly the same thing. For me, my 03 honda would shake when engaging either 1st gear (low RPM) or reverse. I got my flywheel resurfaced, and those symptoms went away.
Hi, just got my first car a couple of weeks ago and I've noticed this exact problem. I switch the engine on, and it squeaks a tiny bit, then when putting the clutch down the squeaking intensifies. When pulling away in 1st gear, let's say at a roundabout, it's sluggish and the whole car is vibrating loads and usually have to add more gas to get away. I've also noticed difficulties putting it into reverse and have to take my whole foot off the clutch, put it in neutral and then try again. I'm driving a 2007 Toyota Aygo, I've heard parts can be cheap for these cars that's partly why I bought it. I'm hoping it's an easy fix.
in my case i hear a squeak when the clutch pedal isn't pressed, as soon as i press it, the squeak goes away, what could it be
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So the noise is a good thing or a bad thing? Asking because mine does a noise when the clutch is engaged and it sound like as if it’s revolving and when I let go it stops the noise
No abnormal noise is a good thing. Unless you like a squeaky wheel, but the squeeking wheel is probably scoring the axle which is why the squeaky wheel gets the grease right? Title on the video specifies failure. I am not sure in today's day and time but historically... failure was a bad thing.
Is that because of clutch release bearing? My civic 09 does not have this issue but the noise comes when pressing and depressing the clutch pedal (engine off). A mechanic told me that it needs to replace the clutch release bearing, and to be sure my car has no symptoms as in this video. I don't know if the noise comes from the slave cylinder or the master cylinder
That really depends on the amount of clearance. If it is on the tight side it can spin all the time. If it is on the loose side, or in spec really it should stop. I have seen it both ways. The outer race of the bearing is stopped because its on the fork. The inner race of the bearing is in close proximity or touching the pressure plate which is spinning. The real key to diagnosing the throw out bearing is to vary the force on the clutch pedal which would effect the load on the bearing and change pitch.
my whole car engine/transmission shake violently while going from a stop. adding more gas will not fix it until i totally let go of the clutch pedal, engaging the clutch completely. disengaging the clutch and letting it out again will fix the issue most of the time. i think its a worn bearing or crooked clutch assembly. what is your opinion on this?
Hard to diagnose based on symptoms alone. I would inspect engine and trans mounts as well as axles and external parts before I went crazy on diagnosis. It sounds like you may be in the right area, flywheel problems can make it chatter like that but it wouldnt change when you push the pedal back in and out like you say. If nothing external is found like suggested, guess you are going in for teardown and inspection of the clutch assembly.
@Xx BigBoss xX me either, i just wanted to know what was the problem to know what to expect in the future. i bought my car for the scrap metal price (200$) and fixed it myself. the tires are worth twice has much as the whole car so i am not taking the transmission out if it still runs.
@Xx BigBoss xX mine has 220,000miles. all the syncro are burned so i guess the last owner didnt even know what a clutch pedal was. my shifting knob ball bushing set was also so worn it had 2inch of play. i was very surprised the clutch still worked when i bought it. it had many many problems.
@@spyda668 i found out mine also shake in reverse, and i think it is starting to squeak a little bit when changing gear. i think it is a bearing that align the clutch that fails and cause the two side to miss-align and shake the whole car until the clutch is forced and align the two halves. if somebody find the real cause please tell us.
I have a rattling noise when taking off from first gear. I also experienced my car feeling sluggish when trying to take off from a stop sign and it sort of slowing down on its own after I put it in neutral almost like a Tesla. When that happened I pulled over and some smoke was coming out just couldn’t tell exactly from where. Ever since the sluggish/slowing down symptoms stopped but I still have the rattling noise any help?
I have this issue with my 94 acura ls. Im so annoyed but im getting it replaced next week. I replaced the entire clutch line thinking there was a leak. This noise confirms what i beleive is causing my gears to get hard when shifting. Its caused me to grind on 3rd mostly.
I got a 2014 Ford Mustang V6 ....Changed my clutch to a Ram HDX ...I also changed the slave cylinder and pilot bearing. I am getting tick tick tick noises when my a/c is because it causes more vibrations. I can turn the tick tick tick noise off by pressing the clutch. Ive notice a Oem clutch only has the slavecylinder/throwbearing combo and my ram clutch came with an extra looks just like a regular throwoutbearing ..Might be an extender ?. Apperantly my mechanic told me the damping wasnt the same so Im guessing its that piece causing that noise.
For these reasons we generally recommend OEM parts. Hard to say, I would recommend further diagnosis, possibly with a stethoscope and vehicle on the lift. Noises can be difficult to pinpoint, want to be sure it is not something else.
If you are good with removing the transmission again when the clutch disc, or one of the various other parts fail then go ahead and just replace the bearing. If it was mine, I would take replace everything. If it were a customer's, I wouldn't even give them the option to replace one part unless it was a unique circumstance like the clutch had just been replaced but skipped the bearing. But generally I'm doing it all or they can have some one else piece it together because in my experience when they return with another issue related to the clutch and a part I did not replace, they revert to a victim mentality and want a deal or they revert to blaming me. I'll help them make a good decision and take care of it all when we do it the first time.
My issue is similar but a little different… when car is in neutral I get sound, depress clutch pedal no sound. Also, When driving 1st or 2nd gear I get a loud grinding noise as if I’m trying to jam a gear over and over. Not a constant grind. Grinding has no pattern and is sporadic. A small loud grind happens almost every tire rotation. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Yeah probably debris inside the transmission. When you depress the clutch (pedal down) the transmission input shaft stops spinning. When you let clutch pedal up it spins and sounds like that's when you may or may not hear the noise. Lots of rotating gears and shafts so it's probably getting caught up and dropping back out. Maybe you can notice it with changes in momentum like speeding/slowing or turning. Front or rear wheel drive? Model?
@@paulkelley86 it’s a custom built rail buggy. I just posted a video on here with the noise and it’s current state. Check it out and see what u hear! It has a J35 engine with a mendeola transaxle
I had that same issue on my 95 civic, it's the input bearings inside the transmission, get a newish transmission to replace it or send it to get rebuilt..
I'm having the same issue. with the research that I've done I've came to the conclusion that its the internals of the transmission, most likely the input or output shaft bearing. basically need a rebuild or swap.
Would it effect only 5th gear tho? I have a 99 Saturn SL2 and I just went and order all new clutch, flywheel, throw out bearing and pressure plate cause I was shifting and 5th went out randomly. When I put it in neutral there’s a slight grind and groan but all gears shift fine. 5th is like there’s a space between something in the transmission that won’t let 5th engage because when you put it in 5th you can feel something revolving in the transmission and it whines and won’t go.
That does not sound like a clutch at all. An issue in one gear and not others indicates an issue in the transmission. It would need to be removed and disassembled for inspection. Or slam a used one in it.
@@paulkelley86 all gears have a slight grind. 5th just refuses to engage. When I put it in neutral the car makes a revolving grinding sound. Press in the clutch, it stops.
Had a new clutch put in… changed the master and slave a month later.. since then I can’t get into first Gear or R from a stop.. if I rev the car while pressuring for 1st gear it will fall in.. or if I hold the pedal for 5-6 seconds it will fall into gear… I’m convinced it’s air in the system being introduced somehow.. but I’ve tried bleeding 101 different ways.. always seem to have air in the system.. never let the master empty.. garage wants a new clutch… I’m convinced it’s air… thoughts?
Yeah seen this a few times. Air in the system results in loss of movement, which means clutch will drag on release (pedal down). The partial clutch engagement leaves the input shaft spinning and difficult to shift. You are correct on your thoughts. BUT I have seen aftermarket clutch and pressure plate assemblies, especially with a thicker disc, not release even when the slave and release fork are maxed out. Personally I recommend OEM or an OEM supplier brand. Mainly from these experiences. The diagnosis would be to measure the amount of clutch release fork movement. If it is coming up short, air. If it is going all the way, clutch. Hard to find that spec. Also you may be able to manually pry the release fork and see if you can move it further. In which case, air. If it is already bottomed out, clutch. P.s. when I say air, it could also be internal fluid leakage on the clutch master. You won't see a leak, it will blowby and go into the reservoir.
@@paulkelley86 my master in external. I know they have the exact same stroke.. but mushy pedal with stiffness only halfway down tells me it’s air… I know the car shifted fine before swapping those Parts..
I wanna replace my car's clutch, but there is something else that I am concerned with. Every time that I release the clutch pedal or the engine is in the idle mode there will be a squealing sound but if i press the pedal then the sound will be gone.
Classic example of bad input shaft bearing. Eric The Car Guy on TH-cam made a video about rebuilding a civic transmission because of a bad input shaft bearing.
*IF YOURE HAVING THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THIS VIDEO* I'm having the same issue. with the research that I've done I've came to the conclusion that its the internals of the transmission, most likely the input or output shaft bearing. basically need a rebuild or swap.
On my 1992 accord it looks like the slave cylinder bracket is shaking . I can literally push on it to stop the shaking which stops the noise. When I am OFF the clutch I hear squeaking. When I push the clutch IN the noise stops. Do you think this is the throw out bearing? or Do you think I need a slave cylinder Bracket. any help is much appreciated
Hey man I really need help mine has this problem but it’s the loudest squealing noise almost like power steering belt but only when the clutch is pressed no matter how much pressure it has on it it squells what do I need to replace
Sounds like a pilot bearing. Pilot bearing works when there is a speed difference between the enging/crankshaft and the transmission/input shaft. Makes no difference whether neutral or in a gear right? But I want to make sure you understand, it is probably a mistake to pull a transmission out to do a $10 pilot bearing/bushing. If the clutch has not been replaced recently I would go in to do the whole kit. Thats when the pilot bearing should be, or should have been done anyway.
Would a throwout bearing cause my trucks battery to die? I pressed the clutch in and the voltage gauge started going crazy. After a few times of that it died completely. I was thinking the alternator but it was making a loud whining noise when I pressed the clutch? Way louder than this video though.
i have exactly the same problem i dont think its the dual mass flyelwheel because flywheel is loose even when u dont press the clutch in will just clutch replacement kit help ?? please help!!
I get a scratching noise when I’m in gear and taking off from a stop once I get going nothing. Also if I push the clutch in there is a scratching slight sound
For me it’s making a weird noise when I’m starting it I just change my cmc and slave cylinder because gear won’t engage it fix my problem for like a day or 2 and after it start doing the same thing but now it’s less worse I can still drive it… sometimes it’s work well sometimes I need to turn off the car to put it in first gear the guy that replaced my clutch last year told me that it might be the bearing clutch release but it’s does make any noise just a little noise when I’m not pressing the clutch when I put pressure the noise desepear
Got this problem recently few days ago on my 2005 kia sorento, when i press clutch all the way (changing gears while driving) it makes squeaky noise (discovered it when i was parking and the door was open, you cant hear it much on inside the car) but when it is depressed then no squeaky noise can be heard ... so iam bit worried
i have a 2005 hyundai terracan diesel (2.9 ltr), i first noticed my issue when the sound rebounded of the wall while i was in a drive through. my problem sounds a lot like yours and apparently the louder it gets the bigger a problem it is.
My clutch problem is different. When it's all the way up it makes a tiny noise but when I press it down a little the noise dissappears. Only happens in gear 1. 2 3 4 5 6 feels normal to drive. Anyone have any idea? Emergency to fix or can I wait a littl?
That exact noise is coming from my slave cylinder, when i press the clutch about 10% it goes away can i just replace the slave cylinder or do i need to replace the whole clutch ?
Slave cylinders don't make grinding noises, so by all means replace it but I'll bet it doesn't fix it. More than likely your issue is the release bearing. Which requires removing the transmission. So you could do all that work and not replace the clutch, just do the bearing, but you are going to be staring at a clutch, which is a wear item, that took all day to get to... and then not replace it? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
Has anyone else experienced this throwout bearing noise only happen when car is started from dead cold? We have this same noise which I think is a throwout bearing but it dissapears once car has been driven and engine/transmission warms up.
@@Jesse-eh6ym yes and no Its gonna go bad eventually but The only way to fix it is getting in there and replacing it so you can keep driving on it until it fails because the entire unit is going to have to be replaced while you’re in there Or do you need to pull the transmission just to replace the throwout bearing
So like my car has been making a noise like that when release since I got it like a year ago at this point. I took it to a garage for A/C repair a couple months ago and they said that the noise isn’t urgent but I should monitor it? What exactly should I be looking for cuz if it’s making the noise of a bad bearing wouldn’t it be urgent and be replaced? Edit: idk if this helps but my car is a 2003 Hyundai Accent
Translation: to fix this noise we need to pull your transmission out and replace the bearing, but at that point you should do a whole clutch kit with bearing and have the flywheel resurfaced or replaced..... all of which will be pretty expensive. So Instead why don't you just drive it and if the noise doesn't change keep driving it, but if it gets a lot worse we will proceed with the large repair. Or Of the bearing does seize badly it will possibly leave you stranded and you will have to tow it in and do the clutch/bearing repair at that point... but it is unlikely to damage surrounding components and it may last a while, some unknown amount of time... So Run it or fix it all if you have the cash and it makes sense now, up to you.
Auto trans noises are a little different. The pump can make a power steering type noise. Any of the bearings can fail and make noise but will change depending on conditions. Some parts spin at different speeds in different gears so that can help with diag. Planetary gearset components can make noise as well. Thats a tough thing to diagnose, and impossible with description rather than in person.
@EduardoRamirez-kp2nj I would suspect more the input shaft bearing on the transmission or transaxle in that case. Would need further diagnosis and possible teardown if it not apparent with a stethoscope.
Did it turn out it was the transmission input shaft bearing, as Paul here suggests? My old '93 truck is doing this now. Sounds just like this video, but it stops both when i disengage the clutch or put it in neutral, and also, oddly, the opposite thing, when i accelerate. It's only when i'm coasting or decelerating with the transmission engaged. Gotta figure it out soon, as it's getting louder.
Yeah it was the whole transmission. Apparently when the previous owner replaced the clutch the mechanic left one of them dowel pins off the housing and the transmission must have shifted or torqued itself throwing everything out of wack destroying 4th gear and all the o rings and clips. Took it to a good guy here in town and he put in a used gear assembly (basically replaced the transmission. Been driving it everyday for a year and no problems
@@raygv1 Thanks for your reply! It does seem that seeing as pushing in the clutch ends the noise, it might have to do with transmission. Glad yours is still working and hope that used gear assembly didn't cost too much. My old original transm. failed about a year and half ago, and a friend who collects old Toyotas let me have one from a junked model for $160. That old truck hadn't been junked because of its transm., so we figured chances were it was good, but it couldn't be expected to last too long. So maybe it has to do with that. Doesn't sound like anything my old dying transm. sounded like, though, and the gears shift fine. (PS Discussing this on Facebook, a friend used the nickname "tr*nny" for this part and his post was removed! Lol!!! That's why i'm saying "transm." here.)
Currently diagnosing my car for this issue, can anyone tell me if this is what a failing tob typically sounds like? Mines making a very faint hum(sounds like straight cut gears running, though the cars in neutral) with the pedal down, quiet with pedal up
A little hard to explain but when your pedal is released, you transmission input shaft bearing is spinning so that is my first thought. Although as some have pointed out that can also be a dual mass flywheel issue as well. If the noise changes more with pedal pressure i would lean dual mass flywheel if equipped. If the noise changes more with rpm (you can kind of hear it speeding up and slowing down while manipulating the pedal) I would lean toward transmission input shaft. But release bearings are also known to rattle or chirp with no pedal pressure then with the slightest pedal pressure it goes away. That would more indicate dry/loose release bearing. Either way you will go in with a theory and have to actually inspect the components when the transmission is out. That's how it actually works. Not just what people want on TH-cam, the noise is like this = replace this part.
I just replaced my clutch and i took to test drive it clutch pedal went all the way down so i parked pumped the clutch start the car try to move i felt like some snap or some because the car kinda moved hard and heard something and thats when the noise started and when trying to go pedal goes almost all the way up and i dont feel no pressure just put a stage 2 clutch btw ..! What it could be the problem?
All gears or some? Hard to shift into gears while running but easy with engine off? Based on what you have said so far, it sounds like your clutch is not completely disengaging.
@paulkelley86 3rd and 4th and sometimes reverse. It's inconsistent sometimes when driving. When car is off gears are smooth to change. Throw out bearing is making noise but stops when I press in clutch. Thanks for the reply
@kevsimoes if the grinding is all gears, it's likely a clutch not disengaging, but since yours is more 3 and 4, it is more likely the 3rd gear blocking/synchronizer ring and the 4th gear blocking/synchronizer ring is wearing or worn. Reverse is normally not synchronized so it grinding in reverse sounds more like the clutch not completely disengaging. You likely have a couple different issues going on. If it were me, I would test the clutch movement in relation to the pedal movement. If the clutch does not move as far as spec (which may be hard to find and measure) then you have air in your system or a failing clutch master or slave cylinder. This is assuming it's hydraulic. The throw out bearing is it's own problem as well. So best case, bearing (do the whole clutch kit) and air in the release system. Worst case, bearing (clutch kit), new master and slave cylinder, and transmission rebuild (3 and 4 blocking rings at a minimum) You may want to take it to someone who really knows their stuff. They can save you more than they will cost you if it turns out to be less than worst case. A DIY or a less skilled tech is probably going to shotgun everything whether all at once or one at a time.
My 2006 civic was doing the same thing, so replace the clutch disc, clutch pressure plate, pilot bushing, throw out bearing. Now the noise goes away in neutral but it still doing rattling noise in first couple gears on road. In 4,5 gears it stays quiet. Please tell me if someone fixed this kinda problem. Replace the transmission oil too, inspect the old oil it was good. There were no signs of worn gears in the oil.
I feel like i have the same problem because everytime i put the clutch in the sound goes away but if i release it it comes back or if im driving and im in 1st or 2nd gear then it comes back but goes away at the same time.
Clutch pressed in and noise= throw-out bearing, if noise is heard and clutch is pressed out and goes away when you press the clutch = pilot bearing. Either way gotta drop the gearbox
I'm having the same issue. with the research that I've done I've came to the conclusion that its the internals of the transmission, most likely the input or output shaft bearing. basically need a rebuild or swap.
An automatic transmission does not have any of these components so no, not at all. Although the diagnostic procedure will be the same idea, knowing what turns or doesn't turn in varying operating conditions and manipulating the vehicle on s road test (not to be confused with test drive) is how professional technicians diagnose issues. Despite the common belief a computer tells the story or they have some evolved 6th sense.
@paulkelley86 I started hearing this noise a month ago but I ignored it, now when I go full throttle the car just doesn't accelerate with the same power it used to a week ago and I hear an unusual sound in the engine when I reach 5000rpm+, I feel like it lost 30% of it's power, today I changed the spark plugs, and checked the maf sensor along with the intake manifold and the ignition coils but nothing change, so I thought the clutch bearing damaged the whole clutch kit and now it is affecting the acceleration?
@azzeddinefoura4741 a clutch slipping will cause loss of acceleration if it is slipping during accel (rpm goes up but vehicle speed wont). But your description really sounds more like loss of engine power. Are the rpms flaring up or just sluggish engine? My thought is you have 2 different issues.
@paulkelley86 more like a sluggish acceleration, the car doesn't go as fast as it used to a week ago, it takes ages to reach 150 km/h when it used to reach it easily and it is impossible to reach 170km/h now, 2 weeks ago I was able to reach 190km/h and 200km/h easily
Close. The input shaft bearing changes with input shaft RPM rather than clutch pedal variation. It can sound similar. Basically an input shaft bearing will make noise anytime the clutch pedal is out, which is when the input shaft spins. It will also come to a slow gradual stop when you press the pedal low enough do disengage the clutch (not just slightly touching the pedal) Hard to explain with words!
Wow! Thank you very much! I recently changed my clutch kit. Its been only 3 three months. When i press my clutch foot down am hearing a squealing sound even when am shifting down at times but goes away, it's a on and off situation. when i press down the clutch for a few more seconds the sound goes away. Its been 4 days. Please help out. Thanks
Release bearings are known to don that because when you press clutch pedal that initiates the contact. The disc is spinning and the fork is stopped, the bearing a lot of time will be stopped with pedal released. When it initially makes contact upon pushing pedal it has to suddenly get up to speed. It seems the getting up to speed is your noise. Maybe premature failure due to poor quality or excessive dust.
@@paulkelley86 is it advisable to replace only the release bearing pr the whole clutch kit? Or for the dust part does it mean it was assembled back properly?
@@Mutale621if it wasn't a great brand, I would replace with an OEM or oem supplier brand entire kit. Or if it was an oem type kit maybe just the bearing if everything looks good.
Strange. In my case the noise is produced when not pressing the pedal in neutral. When i press the pedal it stops. Wonder if this case is the release bearing.
So I just had a new clutch, flywheel, and throw out bearing put in my 2005 Acura TL and it makes this noise only when it’s cold in the mornings and it only last for 5-10 seconds. And if you press the clutch it goes away. So if the clutch is out it makes noise for a few seconds. Is there any way this could fix its self with some time? It only has about 80 miles on it. Could a clutch pedal adjustment on the master cylinder rod cure this?
When you push the pedal down a bit it stops, adjust the pedal till it stops( adjust it as much as possible if you can to make sure it isn’t engaging at higher speeds sounds weird but yeah)
Paul Kelley mine lasted an year and I finally had the whole clutch kit replaced yesterday. for some reason I can shift but for some reason Natural neutral position seems to be off(maybe problem in cable) and on top of that it’s jerks when I change gears a little bit, how is that possible if the whole clutch kit is new?
"Lost 1,2 and R" could mean a lot of things. You need to be more specific about exactly what you mean. Shifter wont enter those gears? Shifter enters those gears fine but jt wont move? Shifter will enter but you have to slam it and they grind? Turn off the car, shift to first while engine off. If it will go in, that is a good sign for transmission being OK. Then start engine and try to take off, aka let clutch pedal up. If it goes. Again another good sign. Same procedure in reverse. Basically my theory based on your very limited information is that the clutch disc won't completely release. If that's the case, it will be very difficult to shift. Starting with engine off will make it easy to shift if the problem is the clutch. If engine off does not allow you to shift, and my above procedures do not work, you may be looking at transmission issues as well but I suspect not.
I have a whining sound when i press the clutch it goes away. I know its not the throw out bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate or flywheel or pilot bearing. Cause ive already replace them. But im guessing its the tranmission, or center diff. Or rear diff. Or main main shaft inlet. Cause mostly its loud on 1st and 2nd gears alil on 3rd to 5th. Any suggestions?
@@jrortiz1293 there are a lot of possibilities, some of which you mentioned. The fact that it does not do it in neutral would have eliminated the clutch pilot, release bearing, and transmission input shaft bearing. Focus on the driveline between the transmission output shaft and wheels. If you have access to a lift, maybe you can diagnose it in the air while "moving" and a stethoscope.
When I’m in 1st and Reverse as I’m letting my foot off the clutch and give it gas to take off I hear a really loud grinding noise, it happens when I hit the pressure point on the clutch and continues for a second or two after I let off of it completely, does anyone have any idea what that could be? I thought it might be a bad throw out bearing but I tried what these people did and I’m not getting the same noise so I’m at a loss of what it could be, occasionally it’ll do it when I shift into second
Hi I've just had my clutch and thrust bearing done on my mondeo ghia x, it doesn't squeak but has a rubbing noise at various phases of the peddle being pushed like in the vid, will that noise go after a while as the parts are new or do I need to get it checked again.
The only thing that will change as it breaks in likely is how the clutch disc engagement feels. Kind if like new brake pads. It might start off kind of grabby or slipping and smell but after break in will normalize. I don't think a noise will get better. Some brand release bearings make more noise than others. It may be worth talking to the shop and seeing what they think, or at least documenting it in case it fails or gets really bad. Some times new parts are defective. Sometimes aftermarket parts are built to different standards and perform a little different. Some part warranties will cover just the part and others actually pay labor in addition to the new part, although not many. For example if a dealer did OEM and it failed, the manufacturer would pay the dealer labor and provide a new part. I would talk to the shop and see what they think.
My jeep sounds like that without pushing on the clutch. Not sure what it can be I shift and downshift right and don't use the clutch as a footrest. Any help?
my 2010 mustang is making a noise when my foot is off the clutch in all gears especially 3rdbut its quiet when I push the clutch down is this a pilot bearing or throw-out bearing?
Does it make the noise when you release the pedal in neutral? Not the pilot for sure. Possibly the throw out but also possible that it is in the transmission.
@@RICKYBOBBY6996 typically with a throw out bearing you can change the pitch of the noise with varying pedal pressure. If it is a transmission noise it may change with either engine rpm (input shaft), vehicle speed (output shaft), or in different gears (speed gear needle bearings). You may find a stethoscope helpful or draining transmission fluid and checking for bearing debris. Further diagnosis is needed.
@aryanghait2274 you don't provide enough information. Can't help you. Release the clutch could mean releasing the pedal which is applying the clutch disc. No clue if it is a rotational sound that changes with rpm, pedal pressure, etc. I am out. My advice is to pay someone with expertise to diagnose it for you.
Damn that’s exactly what just happened to me. Mines been going on for months and I didn’t know what it was until I ripped in 3rd and I couldn’t go into any gear no more
Based on it making noise both applied and released I would lean toward the release bearing since it does always spin. BUT it should change pitch with pedal pressure if this is true. Or your clutch release (whether cable or hydraulic) may have insufficient free play and always hold the release bearing with pressure on it.
@@paulkelley86 so there is a chance it may be only the pedal cable that needs to be changed? or if i need to change the bearing i need to change the whole clutch kit?
@@AlexVoda14 if the bearing is making noise it needs to be changed. But the root cause of failure may be cable adjustment or binding if your clutch is the cable type. That may also be the reason it makes noise all the time rather than changing with pedal up vs pedal down.
Sure this is throw out bearing? The throw out bearing doesnt spin without the clutch, so it would be making sound when you have the clutch engaged
"Clutch engaged" from a technician perspective is literally that, the clutch (think disc) engaged meaning the clutch PEDAL is up. I believe I know what you are saying, speaking from a driver perspective the pedal down is engaged, just understand under that condition the clutch disc is actually disengaged.
Yeah I'm sure. It's all about varying pressure on the pedal and having that change the noise. You are varying the load on the bearing. We test bearings like that regularly.
@@paulkelley86 No, im talking about it from a "technician" perspective. The throw out bearing would be making sound when the clutch is engaged. The TOB spins with the clutch. From a driver perspective, the clutch pedal down is still clutch engaged, but i understand what you mean that most people view it that way and it can be misunderstood.
I currently have 2 cars, where the problem is opposit from eachother.
On one of them, the sound is there when in neutral and clutch engaged. Sound dissapears when i disengage the clutch.
On the other, the sound isnt there in neutral with clutch engaged. But if i disengage the clutch, the sound comes, and i can control it with the pedal.
@Ruudiii The clutch disc stops spinning when the clutch pedal is down, this is clutch disengaged, period.
Clutch engaged is pedal up, disc spinning and connecting the flywheel to the input shaft of the transmission as a result of the clamping force provided by the pressure plate, period.
If your pedal is down, your clutch is disengaged.
With that being said, I recommend you watch the other 2 videos I linked in the description to understand better. One of them is the "opposite" of this video where a pilot bearing is making noise.
To be sure it's clear, the throw out bearing doesn't exactly spin with the clutch, the inner race of the bearing contacts the clutch disc, so it may loosely spin with the clutch when the pedal is up but there is little to no actual force passing through the bearing. The outer race is the housing of the bearing which is commonly clipped or attached some way to the release fork, which absolutely does not spin.
The whole point of the video is that you are varying the force on the bearing with pedal pressure, if the noise changes pitch with varying pressure, it's an issue with the release aka throw out bearing. Again, yes, I am sure.
@@paulkelley86 "The clutch disc stops spinning when the clutch pedal is down, this is clutch disengaged, period.
Clutch engaged is pedal up, disc spinning and connecting the flywheel to the input shaft of the transmission as a result of the clamping force provided by the pressure plate, period. " Yes, im fully aware??? Thats what im saying?? 🤣
The throw out bearing doesnt spin with the clutch? So youre saying that when the clutch is engaged and the sound is present, it is not the throw out bearing?
We are on the same page now.
Throw out bearings don't all fail the same. If it makes the same noise or very similar to this video, and changes pitch with pedal pressure, it's a throw out bearing. The rollers in the bearing and the races have a defect, maybe pitting or spelling, etc. Similar to a wheel bearing, if you increase the force on the bearing, the noise will get worse and louder.
However
Throw out bearings are also known to get kind of a loose rattle sound, which would stop or quiet down with slight pedal pressure. This is common as well. Especially when they are all full of clutch dust. Again though, the key is the noise changes with pedal PRESSURE not fully engaged vs fully disengaged.
Quick comment to address what I am seeing in the comments sowing confusion: yes when you bring the throwout bearing into contact with the pressure plate diaphragm springs you could picture dirty springs making the sound... but let me help you understand. The entire purpose for that bearing is to reduce wear. That's really the purpose of all bearings if you think about it. So if you believe that we are shoving a piece of metal up against those springs which may be spinning every time we let the pedal up, that's crazy. They would be worn down and mangled in no time. That's NOT what happens. The inner race of the throw out bearing is against them at all times. It should not have substantial movement between the two. The springs should be clean sure, but dirty springs are not what is going to cause a noise. If the bearing is stopping, then engaging the spinning springs, the bearing is the problem. It should not be coming to a stop. The fix if it is? The bearing and the entire clutch kit, since the springs are damaged... which started with the throw out bearing. Ok?
Now the way you are wording it is very common, people want to make it a question of clutch engaged vs clutch disengaged. That's not really the best way to test a Throw out bearing. That's how you test a pilot bearing vs. Transmission input shaft bearing. If your clutch is engaged, your input shaft is spinning, so if pressing down the pedal and releasing the clutch makes the noise stop.... well... the input shaft stops so it would indicate and issue with the input shaft bearing or depending on the other conditions (neutral? 1st? 4th? Stopped? Moving?) We can have a pretty good indication of the problematic bearing.
Take it a step further, which is in the last video listed by the way so for anyone else reading, watch the video because there is a lot of bad information in the comments that I don't run around and correct.... let's say the noise is only occurring when moving and changes with vehicle speed, that's more like an output shaft bearing.
Back to clutch engaged/disengaged condition, if you disengage the clutch, the disc stops, the input shaft stops right? Well... the engine crankshaft and flywheel continue to turn.... and remember the input shaft (stopped) is set right into the back of the crankshaft/flywheel (still spinning). So the speed difference would in this situation is the reason we need a pilot bearing or bushing. The pilot bearing outer race spins with the crankshaft the inner race stops with the input shaft. Disengaging the clutch brings out the noise? Look to the pilot bearing.
There are a lot of noises and nuisances in the clutch and transmission. After having hundreds of students in class, 99% want to make it clutch engaged noise = throw out bearing l, clutch disengaged nosie = pilot bearing. But see its not that simple and that overlooks any and all transmission bearing noises as a possibility. That's the reason I started making the videos. It's hard to explain and the best way to get people to understand is to get them all on the same page with terms and then show them. That's why I insist on wording it my way, 9 out of 10 people will explain this completely wrong and come up with all sorts of incorrect diagnosis.
P.s. I was part of fixing the car in the video, so I have the answer sheet, easier for me.
Appreciate the simple, effective example for people who are wondering. :)
You can do this exact proceedure, and have a different noise, that's a classic dual mass flywheel failure (mainly found in high performance petrols and in pretty much every modern diesel engine.)
Will it be rattling noise? I have same issue with different noise
@@Eddiya Yes, sounds like a vibration noise when the clutch is slightly depressed.
Replace clutch and flywheel and i should be good?
I have a similar noise, but only when there's no pressure on the clutch
When I put pressure on the clutch, the sound goes away??
@@noorieg3598 - Release bearing failure.
so the noise is from what?
squeaky when clutch half pressed would mean bearing is scraping on the springs?
when fully pressed noise goes away since the extra pressure makes the bearings actually spin. No scraping.
Correct?
Thanks. I wasn't sure if this sound was coming from my DMF or the clutch itself.
so? wich one was eventually?
So how much would it cost to repair it? I have BMW 2005 320d E46
This basically confirms my clutch needs looking at by someone who can actually do the job unlike the garage that did the clutch back in August. Fun times as that cost me £165 + a CV Joint and a new clutch at a garage I trust it will cost £250-£270. Cheap for a car but still over 50% of my savings
Sometimes you get what you pay for. The older you get the more you realize it is true. Good luck with it, there are good ones out there.
So what they did wrong?
Stay strong luke
@@K_N_44Overtightened the bolts.
I'm no expert but I think that's not the noise from the throwout bearing itself. It's true that the bearing is out but that's causing the throwout bearing to rotate with the shaft and rub the clutch pressure plate springs. That's why when you press fully the sound goes away because the worn out bearing requires more pressure to work.
thank you! my 4x4 has just started developing this problem, this video totally cleared up any doubts on the issue.
Sounds more like a worn or dirty flywheel/clutch plate. The thrust bearing usually makes a rattly noise when the clutch isn't engaged then goes quiet when the clutch is engaged
Explained my issue perfectly
When I press the clutch it sort of aligns
I have this sound but with an automatic car. Would this be the same problem or different due to being automatic? It's a 2005 honda jazz for reference. Thanks!
Mine is ever so slightly audible when in neutral at the traffic light.
Annoying sound that you won't easily hear, but once you do, you can't unhear it.
I have a car that has about 9 months MOT (UK safety annual check) on it then it’s getting sold for spares. It has this issue and I’m not putting any more money into the car apart from maybe some oil. It’s a Toyota aygo and it’s only just started making this noise. How long would it run with this noise and what’s the worst that could happen? Does this bearing do any work when you are just driving and not changing gear? I mostly do motorway miles.
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Jonny
Im in the exact same position with my nissan pixo, have you found out anything? I want to drive it till the end of the year then put it away
Mine has started making this sound but only seem once I’ve used my car a bit during the day and has heated up a bit. Does this sound right?
My car ( Daihatsu Trevis, 2006) makes this exact noise when fully depressing the clutch; the noise disappears when releasing the clutch. The clutch engages immediately and feels somewhat heavy. The noise also increases when the car has warmed up, for example, after driving for a while. The clutch has been replaced entirely twice, but the noise keeps coming back. Could it be related to disengagement or incorrectly adjusting the clutch cable? I'm at my wit's end, perhaps you have a tip to look into?
That is possible. If the clutch release cable is too tight it will constantly push on the release fork which will keep the release bearing spinning with some pressure at all times.
However
My gut feeling is that the release bearings being used may simply be sub quality. This happens all the time.
Mines the exact opposite it grinds when the clutch is disengaged and when I engage the clutch it goes away. Guessing it’s the input shaft bearing
Mine does it while driving. Gets louder faster I go
Mine does it too....goes away when it warms up.
Same here man, did you figure it out? I got a mk4 gti 5 speed
Same here. I was hoping the new clutch setup was going to fix it 🤦🏻♂️
If it's not overly loud and can't hear it past 1st gear, just run it. Typical sounds of a transmission that's no longer new.
Could the throwout make a squealing once the engine reaches a certain rpm? Or would it just squeal the entire time
It would change pitch with clutch pedal pressure, as shown in the video. It doesn't have much to do with rpm.
Could a 100% clutch press with the same or bigger sound/vibration as 50% clutch press and 0% being quiet as it engages normaly after... It's feeling like the clutch is never all seperated from the flywheel but is making an identical sound from this video.
I think that the brake/clutch fluid level is a bit lower than the low mark, could this be my problem? Is it worth a try to fill this with brake fluid on my own or is it better to go to a mecanic and they check this problem? [I don't have any of my trust to go, that's why I kinda want to solve it myself :/ ]
Sounds like mine but happens when I press the clutch all the way in or after I shift. Same problem?
my honda has a worn bearing-like noise when in neutral. The sound goes away completely when the clutch pedal is pressed all the way. To add to this, the car shakes a bit when going into 1st from a stop and makes a scratching noise (not similar to gear grind) simultaneously. The shaking/scratching does not happen if i keep the RPMS a little higher when going into 1st though. Other than that, all gears shift smoothly, with the exception of difficulty going into reverse gear sometimes... the car is a 91' from SF so its safe to assume synchros are worn and some gears worn as well. * i have new mounts all the way around ** clutch is a couple years old EXEDY oem .. what do you think this could be? I had a shop do clutch install and another shop replace master/slave cylinder
hey im experiencing the same thing. is yours good now?
I experienced nearly the same thing. For me, my 03 honda would shake when engaging either 1st gear (low RPM) or reverse. I got my flywheel resurfaced, and those symptoms went away.
Hi, just got my first car a couple of weeks ago and I've noticed this exact problem. I switch the engine on, and it squeaks a tiny bit, then when putting the clutch down the squeaking intensifies. When pulling away in 1st gear, let's say at a roundabout, it's sluggish and the whole car is vibrating loads and usually have to add more gas to get away. I've also noticed difficulties putting it into reverse and have to take my whole foot off the clutch, put it in neutral and then try again. I'm driving a 2007 Toyota Aygo, I've heard parts can be cheap for these cars that's partly why I bought it. I'm hoping it's an easy fix.
in my case i hear a squeak when the clutch pedal isn't pressed, as soon as i press it, the squeak goes away, what could it be
So the noise is a good thing or a bad thing? Asking because mine does a noise when the clutch is engaged and it sound like as if it’s revolving and when I let go it stops the noise
No abnormal noise is a good thing. Unless you like a squeaky wheel, but the squeeking wheel is probably scoring the axle which is why the squeaky wheel gets the grease right?
Title on the video specifies failure. I am not sure in today's day and time but historically... failure was a bad thing.
@@paulkelley86thanks
Uffffff after so many videos THANK YOU
That’ the exact noise on my Honda crv
I have this same problem but it’s the opposite. Clutch out makes ticking noise . Clutch in goes away. Any ideas ??
I have the same thing, but can't find the answer
so the noise is coming from inside the transmission? meaning the throw out bearings has holes (due to failure?) which allow the sound to come out?
I don't know about holes but defects yes. Roughness on the bearing rollers surface.
Is that because of clutch release bearing? My civic 09 does not have this issue but the noise comes when pressing and depressing the clutch pedal (engine off). A mechanic told me that it needs to replace the clutch release bearing, and to be sure my car has no symptoms as in this video. I don't know if the noise comes from the slave cylinder or the master cylinder
Slave and master cylinder wont have this type of noise itll be more of a creaky noise
So. Do the throughout bearing always touch pressure plate and running all the time.
That really depends on the amount of clearance. If it is on the tight side it can spin all the time. If it is on the loose side, or in spec really it should stop. I have seen it both ways.
The outer race of the bearing is stopped because its on the fork.
The inner race of the bearing is in close proximity or touching the pressure plate which is spinning.
The real key to diagnosing the throw out bearing is to vary the force on the clutch pedal which would effect the load on the bearing and change pitch.
my whole car engine/transmission shake violently while going from a stop. adding more gas will not fix it until i totally let go of the clutch pedal, engaging the clutch completely. disengaging the clutch and letting it out again will fix the issue most of the time.
i think its a worn bearing or crooked clutch assembly. what is your opinion on this?
Hard to diagnose based on symptoms alone. I would inspect engine and trans mounts as well as axles and external parts before I went crazy on diagnosis.
It sounds like you may be in the right area, flywheel problems can make it chatter like that but it wouldnt change when you push the pedal back in and out like you say.
If nothing external is found like suggested, guess you are going in for teardown and inspection of the clutch assembly.
@@paulkelley86 alright, thank you very much for your help.
@Xx BigBoss xX me either, i just wanted to know what was the problem to know what to expect in the future. i bought my car for the scrap metal price (200$) and fixed it myself. the tires are worth twice has much as the whole car so i am not taking the transmission out if it still runs.
@Xx BigBoss xX mine has 220,000miles. all the syncro are burned so i guess the last owner didnt even know what a clutch pedal was. my shifting knob ball bushing set was also so worn it had 2inch of play. i was very surprised the clutch still worked when i bought it. it had many many problems.
@@spyda668 i found out mine also shake in reverse, and i think it is starting to squeak a little bit when changing gear. i think it is a bearing that align the clutch that fails and cause the two side to miss-align and shake the whole car until the clutch is forced and align the two halves.
if somebody find the real cause please tell us.
Please advice me what can i do its same happen with my car
I have a rattling noise when taking off from first gear. I also experienced my car feeling sluggish when trying to take off from a stop sign and it sort of slowing down on its own after I put it in neutral almost like a Tesla. When that happened I pulled over and some smoke was coming out just couldn’t tell exactly from where. Ever since the sluggish/slowing down symptoms stopped but I still have the rattling noise any help?
Mine makes a grinding kind of noise when clutch pressed in, is it also the TOB?
Look for my video on pilot bearing. Sounds like that may be more your issue.
can you drive on it or will it hurt the car or cause more problems?
It will eventually cause problems but difficult to predict when and how severe.
Question, my motorcycle makes a noise when after i release my clutch, when i press it it doesnt make any noise at all. What could it be?
hi, my clutch has started do exactly this, is it urgent can it wait for next service you think, what will happen if gone unchecked?
I’d like to know as well.
@@quasar4086 I ended up replacing the entire clutch, I think it will last a while but may get noisier until it stops working.
The Spooky Burger My throwout bearing had completely torn itself apart and my car wouldn’t go into gear after that
@@johnfredeen9768 how much time did you used the clutch in that state of degradation before it torn itself apart? thx
Did it affect your car's acceleration?
Dose it always flutter? I have this sound but it's consistent
Sounds varies. The important part is the sound varying with clutch pedal pressure indicating a release bearing issue.
I have this issue with my 94 acura ls. Im so annoyed but im getting it replaced next week. I replaced the entire clutch line thinking there was a leak. This noise confirms what i beleive is causing my gears to get hard when shifting. Its caused me to grind on 3rd mostly.
I got a 2014 Ford Mustang V6 ....Changed my clutch to a Ram HDX ...I also changed the slave cylinder and pilot bearing. I am getting tick tick tick noises when my a/c is because it causes more vibrations. I can turn the tick tick tick noise off by pressing the clutch. Ive notice a Oem clutch only has the slavecylinder/throwbearing combo and my ram clutch came with an extra looks just like a regular throwoutbearing ..Might be an extender ?. Apperantly my mechanic told me the damping wasnt the same so Im guessing its that piece causing that noise.
For these reasons we generally recommend OEM parts.
Hard to say, I would recommend further diagnosis, possibly with a stethoscope and vehicle on the lift. Noises can be difficult to pinpoint, want to be sure it is not something else.
I had my clutch changed and throw out bearing and this noise is still there 🤨
Will the clutch need to be replaced because of it, if there still meat left on the clutch plate 😅
If you are good with removing the transmission again when the clutch disc, or one of the various other parts fail then go ahead and just replace the bearing.
If it was mine, I would take replace everything.
If it were a customer's, I wouldn't even give them the option to replace one part unless it was a unique circumstance like the clutch had just been replaced but skipped the bearing. But generally I'm doing it all or they can have some one else piece it together because in my experience when they return with another issue related to the clutch and a part I did not replace, they revert to a victim mentality and want a deal or they revert to blaming me. I'll help them make a good decision and take care of it all when we do it the first time.
My issue is similar but a little different… when car is in neutral I get sound, depress clutch pedal no sound. Also, When driving 1st or 2nd gear I get a loud grinding noise as if I’m trying to jam a gear over and over. Not a constant grind. Grinding has no pattern and is sporadic. A small loud grind happens almost every tire rotation. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Yeah probably debris inside the transmission.
When you depress the clutch (pedal down) the transmission input shaft stops spinning. When you let clutch pedal up it spins and sounds like that's when you may or may not hear the noise. Lots of rotating gears and shafts so it's probably getting caught up and dropping back out. Maybe you can notice it with changes in momentum like speeding/slowing or turning.
Front or rear wheel drive? Model?
@@paulkelley86 it’s a custom built rail buggy. I just posted a video on here with the noise and it’s current state. Check it out and see what u hear! It has a J35 engine with a mendeola transaxle
I had that same issue on my 95 civic, it's the input bearings inside the transmission, get a newish transmission to replace it or send it to get rebuilt..
I'm having the same issue. with the research that I've done I've came to the conclusion that its the internals of the transmission, most likely the input or output shaft bearing. basically need a rebuild or swap.
Would it effect only 5th gear tho? I have a 99 Saturn SL2 and I just went and order all new clutch, flywheel, throw out bearing and pressure plate cause I was shifting and 5th went out randomly. When I put it in neutral there’s a slight grind and groan but all gears shift fine. 5th is like there’s a space between something in the transmission that won’t let 5th engage because when you put it in 5th you can feel something revolving in the transmission and it whines and won’t go.
That does not sound like a clutch at all.
An issue in one gear and not others indicates an issue in the transmission. It would need to be removed and disassembled for inspection.
Or slam a used one in it.
@@paulkelley86 all gears have a slight grind. 5th just refuses to engage. When I put it in neutral the car makes a revolving grinding sound. Press in the clutch, it stops.
@@paulkelley86 this all started on Friday. Prior to that no trans issues at 250k miles
Had a new clutch put in… changed the master and slave a month later.. since then I can’t get into first Gear or R from a stop.. if I rev the car while pressuring for 1st gear it will fall in.. or if I hold the pedal for 5-6 seconds it will fall into gear… I’m convinced it’s air in the system being introduced somehow.. but I’ve tried bleeding 101 different ways.. always seem to have air in the system.. never let the master empty.. garage wants a new clutch… I’m convinced it’s air… thoughts?
Yeah seen this a few times.
Air in the system results in loss of movement, which means clutch will drag on release (pedal down). The partial clutch engagement leaves the input shaft spinning and difficult to shift. You are correct on your thoughts.
BUT
I have seen aftermarket clutch and pressure plate assemblies, especially with a thicker disc, not release even when the slave and release fork are maxed out.
Personally I recommend OEM or an OEM supplier brand. Mainly from these experiences.
The diagnosis would be to measure the amount of clutch release fork movement. If it is coming up short, air. If it is going all the way, clutch. Hard to find that spec. Also you may be able to manually pry the release fork and see if you can move it further. In which case, air. If it is already bottomed out, clutch. P.s. when I say air, it could also be internal fluid leakage on the clutch master. You won't see a leak, it will blowby and go into the reservoir.
@@paulkelley86 my master in external. I know they have the exact same stroke.. but mushy pedal with stiffness only halfway down tells me it’s air… I know the car shifted fine before swapping those
Parts..
My car has the exact same problem. Clutch release problem?
I wanna replace my car's clutch, but there is something else that I am concerned with. Every time that I release the clutch pedal or the engine is in the idle mode there will be a squealing sound but if i press the pedal then the sound will be gone.
I've heard this before. It could be the input shaft bearing.
Classic example of bad input shaft bearing. Eric The Car Guy on TH-cam made a video about rebuilding a civic transmission because of a bad input shaft bearing.
I have same problem smh
*IF YOURE HAVING THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THIS VIDEO* I'm having the same issue. with the research that I've done I've came to the conclusion that its the internals of the transmission, most likely the input or output shaft bearing. basically need a rebuild or swap.
On my 1992 accord it looks like the slave cylinder bracket is shaking . I can literally push on it to stop the shaking which stops the noise. When I am OFF the clutch I hear squeaking. When I push the clutch IN the noise stops.
Do you think this is the throw out bearing? or Do you think I need a slave cylinder Bracket.
any help is much appreciated
hey mate did you sort out the issue? Have the same problem with my car.
Same
Dry clutch fork pivot point?
i also have a 1992 accord but my clutch only squeaks when pushing it in 😢
have found any solutions ? i got the same issue on a 2010 impreza
That's a great way to check.
i have this problem kinda similar so what can i say to the garage?
Describe your concern. What you hear, what you feel.
Don't tell them what you think it is.
@@paulkelley86 I hear the same squeak
Hey man I really need help mine has this problem but it’s the loudest squealing noise almost like power steering belt but only when the clutch is pressed no matter how much pressure it has on it it squells what do I need to replace
Sounds like a pilot bearing. Pilot bearing works when there is a speed difference between the enging/crankshaft and the transmission/input shaft. Makes no difference whether neutral or in a gear right?
But I want to make sure you understand, it is probably a mistake to pull a transmission out to do a $10 pilot bearing/bushing. If the clutch has not been replaced recently I would go in to do the whole kit. Thats when the pilot bearing should be, or should have been done anyway.
Would a throwout bearing cause my trucks battery to die? I pressed the clutch in and the voltage gauge started going crazy. After a few times of that it died completely. I was thinking the alternator but it was making a loud whining noise when I pressed the clutch? Way louder than this video though.
A bearing has no electrical components. I would be looking more at your clutch switch and even that is a stretch. I suspect it is unrelated.
i have exactly the same problem i dont think its the dual mass flyelwheel because flywheel is loose even when u dont press the clutch in will just clutch replacement kit help ??
please help!!
I get a scratching noise when I’m in gear and taking off from a stop once I get going nothing.
Also if I push the clutch in there is a scratching slight sound
For me it’s making a weird noise when I’m starting it I just change my cmc and slave cylinder because gear won’t engage it fix my problem for like a day or 2 and after it start doing the same thing but now it’s less worse I can still drive it… sometimes it’s work well sometimes I need to turn off the car to put it in first gear the guy that replaced my clutch last year told me that it might be the bearing clutch release but it’s does make any noise just a little noise when I’m not pressing the clutch when I put pressure the noise desepear
What if it gets loud when hitting ~90% engaged, im trying to figure it out because whole clutch is new and double checked everything
Chrisfix heard the noise when he released the clutch in his 4th Gen Mustang. He knew right away it was the throw out bearing
Got this problem recently few days ago on my 2005 kia sorento, when i press clutch all the way (changing gears while driving) it makes squeaky noise (discovered it when i was parking and the door was open, you cant hear it much on inside the car) but when it is depressed then no squeaky noise can be heard ... so iam bit worried
i have a 2005 hyundai terracan diesel (2.9 ltr), i first noticed my issue when the sound rebounded of the wall while i was in a drive through.
my problem sounds a lot like yours and apparently the louder it gets the bigger a problem it is.
What if it makes that noise plus squealing noise
My car makes a similar noise when pressing the clutch however only when in motion would this be the same issue does anyone know?
Mines even weirder, happens when pulling off from first or reverse, I have a 2000 vw golf cabrio. I believe it’s the same issue as in the video though
same but i got ford focus
My clutch problem is different.
When it's all the way up it makes a tiny noise but when I press it down a little the noise dissappears.
Only happens in gear 1.
2 3 4 5 6 feels normal to drive.
Anyone have any idea?
Emergency to fix or can I wait a littl?
That exact noise is coming from my slave cylinder, when i press the clutch about 10% it goes away can i just replace the slave cylinder or do i need to replace the whole clutch ?
Slave cylinders don't make grinding noises, so by all means replace it but I'll bet it doesn't fix it.
More than likely your issue is the release bearing. Which requires removing the transmission. So you could do all that work and not replace the clutch, just do the bearing, but you are going to be staring at a clutch, which is a wear item, that took all day to get to... and then not replace it? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@paulkelley86 ok thanks for the help man
Has anyone else experienced this throwout bearing noise only happen when car is started from dead cold? We have this same noise which I think is a throwout bearing but it dissapears once car has been driven and engine/transmission warms up.
The dried up grease warms up enough to let the bearing spin freely
Mine is the same, although its getting worse now.
@@MRTuning704 is it fine to keep driving it like that?
@@Jesse-eh6ym yes and no
Its gonna go bad eventually
but The only way to fix it is getting in there and replacing it
so you can keep driving on it until it fails because the entire unit is going to have to be replaced while you’re in there
Or do you need to pull the transmission just to replace the throwout bearing
Input shaft bearing.
When i press the pedal to the end it starts knocking very lightly until i release it
Is this bad?
So like my car has been making a noise like that when release since I got it like a year ago at this point. I took it to a garage for A/C repair a couple months ago and they said that the noise isn’t urgent but I should monitor it? What exactly should I be looking for cuz if it’s making the noise of a bad bearing wouldn’t it be urgent and be replaced?
Edit: idk if this helps but my car is a 2003 Hyundai Accent
Translation: to fix this noise we need to pull your transmission out and replace the bearing, but at that point you should do a whole clutch kit with bearing and have the flywheel resurfaced or replaced..... all of which will be pretty expensive.
So
Instead why don't you just drive it and if the noise doesn't change keep driving it, but if it gets a lot worse we will proceed with the large repair.
Or
Of the bearing does seize badly it will possibly leave you stranded and you will have to tow it in and do the clutch/bearing repair at that point... but it is unlikely to damage surrounding components and it may last a while, some unknown amount of time...
So
Run it or fix it all if you have the cash and it makes sense now, up to you.
What would this be if u heard this kind of sound.in a automatic sometimes.but.no back and forth just steady
Auto trans noises are a little different. The pump can make a power steering type noise. Any of the bearings can fail and make noise but will change depending on conditions. Some parts spin at different speeds in different gears so that can help with diag. Planetary gearset components can make noise as well. Thats a tough thing to diagnose, and impossible with description rather than in person.
what about the opposite? like without pressure on the clutch peddal you hear the noise, but when pressure is applied it's gone.
Is it a light rattle sound?
Does it change with slight pedal pressure or only when you have the pedal down most of the way?
@@paulkelley86when I release the clutch pedal it starts to make a grinding noise when I put the clutch pedal all the way in it stops
@EduardoRamirez-kp2nj I would suspect more the input shaft bearing on the transmission or transaxle in that case. Would need further diagnosis and possible teardown if it not apparent with a stethoscope.
Is it the same if it makes noise when your foot is off the clutch completely and goes away when you push the clutch in?
Possibly the release bearing but sounding more like a transmission input shaft bearing in that case.
Did it turn out it was the transmission input shaft bearing, as Paul here suggests? My old '93 truck is doing this now. Sounds just like this video, but it stops both when i disengage the clutch or put it in neutral, and also, oddly, the opposite thing, when i accelerate. It's only when i'm coasting or decelerating with the transmission engaged. Gotta figure it out soon, as it's getting louder.
Yeah it was the whole transmission. Apparently when the previous owner replaced the clutch the mechanic left one of them dowel pins off the housing and the transmission must have shifted or torqued itself throwing everything out of wack destroying 4th gear and all the o rings and clips. Took it to a good guy here in town and he put in a used gear assembly (basically replaced the transmission. Been driving it everyday for a year and no problems
@@raygv1 Thanks for your reply! It does seem that seeing as pushing in the clutch ends the noise, it might have to do with transmission. Glad yours is still working and hope that used gear assembly didn't cost too much.
My old original transm. failed about a year and half ago, and a friend who collects old Toyotas let me have one from a junked model for $160. That old truck hadn't been junked because of its transm., so we figured chances were it was good, but it couldn't be expected to last too long. So maybe it has to do with that. Doesn't sound like anything my old dying transm. sounded like, though, and the gears shift fine.
(PS Discussing this on Facebook, a friend used the nickname "tr*nny" for this part and his post was removed! Lol!!! That's why i'm saying "transm." here.)
Currently diagnosing my car for this issue, can anyone tell me if this is what a failing tob typically sounds like? Mines making a very faint hum(sounds like straight cut gears running, though the cars in neutral) with the pedal down, quiet with pedal up
@spaghetony593 check the video on pilot bearing that I linked in the description.
All noises explained.
I thought I had this but it just sounds like the cables squeaky not this so hopefully it’s not the throw out bearing
What happens if my car makes that noise without any pressure but when I put pressure it goes away
A little hard to explain but when your pedal is released, you transmission input shaft bearing is spinning so that is my first thought.
Although as some have pointed out that can also be a dual mass flywheel issue as well.
If the noise changes more with pedal pressure i would lean dual mass flywheel if equipped.
If the noise changes more with rpm (you can kind of hear it speeding up and slowing down while manipulating the pedal) I would lean toward transmission input shaft.
But release bearings are also known to rattle or chirp with no pedal pressure then with the slightest pedal pressure it goes away. That would more indicate dry/loose release bearing.
Either way you will go in with a theory and have to actually inspect the components when the transmission is out. That's how it actually works. Not just what people want on TH-cam, the noise is like this = replace this part.
I just replaced my clutch and i took to test drive it clutch pedal went all the way down so i parked pumped the clutch start the car try to move i felt like some snap or some because the car kinda moved hard and heard something and thats when the noise started and when trying to go pedal goes almost all the way up and i dont feel no pressure just put a stage 2 clutch btw ..! What it could be the problem?
Air in your hydraulic system. Any fluid leaks at clutch master or clutch slave? Could have internal seal leaking which loses fluid and pulls in air.
Mines noisy in neutral and when I pressing it quiets down
Can a bad throw out bearing cause grinding in some gears and reverse
All gears or some? Hard to shift into gears while running but easy with engine off? Based on what you have said so far, it sounds like your clutch is not completely disengaging.
@paulkelley86 3rd and 4th and sometimes reverse. It's inconsistent sometimes when driving. When car is off gears are smooth to change. Throw out bearing is making noise but stops when I press in clutch. Thanks for the reply
@kevsimoes if the grinding is all gears, it's likely a clutch not disengaging, but since yours is more 3 and 4, it is more likely the 3rd gear blocking/synchronizer ring and the 4th gear blocking/synchronizer ring is wearing or worn.
Reverse is normally not synchronized so it grinding in reverse sounds more like the clutch not completely disengaging.
You likely have a couple different issues going on.
If it were me, I would test the clutch movement in relation to the pedal movement. If the clutch does not move as far as spec (which may be hard to find and measure) then you have air in your system or a failing clutch master or slave cylinder. This is assuming it's hydraulic.
The throw out bearing is it's own problem as well.
So best case, bearing (do the whole clutch kit) and air in the release system.
Worst case, bearing (clutch kit), new master and slave cylinder, and transmission rebuild (3 and 4 blocking rings at a minimum)
You may want to take it to someone who really knows their stuff. They can save you more than they will cost you if it turns out to be less than worst case. A DIY or a less skilled tech is probably going to shotgun everything whether all at once or one at a time.
@paulkelley86 ok thank you I appreciate the information you gave me.
Mine's the opposite. I've been through 3 entire clutch packs in 8 months. The newest two squeal right out of the box. I'm at the end of my rope.
It might be the clutch fork
@@JacobCarsBrasil got it fixed. Replaced it with a mk7 gti.
My 2006 civic was doing the same thing, so replace the clutch disc, clutch pressure plate, pilot bushing, throw out bearing. Now the noise goes away in neutral but it still doing rattling noise in first couple gears on road. In 4,5 gears it stays quiet. Please tell me if someone fixed this kinda problem. Replace the transmission oil too, inspect the old oil it was good. There were no signs of worn gears in the oil.
I feel like i have the same problem because everytime i put the clutch in the sound goes away but if i release it it comes back or if im driving and im in 1st or 2nd gear then it comes back but goes away at the same time.
Clutch pressed in and noise= throw-out bearing, if noise is heard and clutch is pressed out and goes away when you press the clutch = pilot bearing. Either way gotta drop the gearbox
I'm having the same issue. with the research that I've done I've came to the conclusion that its the internals of the transmission, most likely the input or output shaft bearing. basically need a rebuild or swap.
My squeal only happens when idling. When I barely touch the the clutch pedal it will stop.
Maybe I just need to change my transmission fluid
Does this work with automatic cars too?
An automatic transmission does not have any of these components so no, not at all.
Although the diagnostic procedure will be the same idea, knowing what turns or doesn't turn in varying operating conditions and manipulating the vehicle on s road test (not to be confused with test drive) is how professional technicians diagnose issues.
Despite the common belief a computer tells the story or they have some evolved 6th sense.
what
Can this cause poor acceleration too?
Negative.
@paulkelley86 I started hearing this noise a month ago but I ignored it, now when I go full throttle the car just doesn't accelerate with the same power it used to a week ago and I hear an unusual sound in the engine when I reach 5000rpm+, I feel like it lost 30% of it's power, today I changed the spark plugs, and checked the maf sensor along with the intake manifold and the ignition coils but nothing change, so I thought the clutch bearing damaged the whole clutch kit and now it is affecting the acceleration?
@azzeddinefoura4741 a clutch slipping will cause loss of acceleration if it is slipping during accel (rpm goes up but vehicle speed wont). But your description really sounds more like loss of engine power. Are the rpms flaring up or just sluggish engine? My thought is you have 2 different issues.
@paulkelley86 more like a sluggish acceleration, the car doesn't go as fast as it used to a week ago, it takes ages to reach 150 km/h when it used to reach it easily and it is impossible to reach 170km/h now, 2 weeks ago I was able to reach 190km/h and 200km/h easily
@@paulkelley86 could be the crankshaft sensor?
Is this not an input shaft bearing sound?
Close. The input shaft bearing changes with input shaft RPM rather than clutch pedal variation. It can sound similar.
Basically an input shaft bearing will make noise anytime the clutch pedal is out, which is when the input shaft spins. It will also come to a slow gradual stop when you press the pedal low enough do disengage the clutch (not just slightly touching the pedal)
Hard to explain with words!
@@paulkelley86 You've explained clearly enough thanks mate.
My car wasn’t doing that then it stopped now I can’t shift into six gear Can someone please explain what’s going on
Wow! Thank you very much! I recently changed my clutch kit. Its been only 3 three months. When i press my clutch foot down am hearing a squealing sound even when am shifting down at times but goes away, it's a on and off situation. when i press down the clutch for a few more seconds the sound goes away. Its been 4 days. Please help out. Thanks
Release bearings are known to don that because when you press clutch pedal that initiates the contact. The disc is spinning and the fork is stopped, the bearing a lot of time will be stopped with pedal released. When it initially makes contact upon pushing pedal it has to suddenly get up to speed. It seems the getting up to speed is your noise. Maybe premature failure due to poor quality or excessive dust.
@@paulkelley86 Thank you very much, sir! Much appreciated for your reply and knowledge!!!
@@paulkelley86 is it advisable to replace only the release bearing pr the whole clutch kit? Or for the dust part does it mean it was assembled back properly?
@@Mutale621if it wasn't a great brand, I would replace with an OEM or oem supplier brand entire kit. Or if it was an oem type kit maybe just the bearing if everything looks good.
@@paulkelley86 Thanks very much, sir! Grateful 🙌
Strange. In my case the noise is produced when not pressing the pedal in neutral. When i press the pedal it stops. Wonder if this case is the release bearing.
Sounds more like transmission input shaft bearing. Only with pedal released in N right?
@@paulkelley86 yes! exactly. But to change this i will have to pay much money on labor as the mechanic has to dismantle the transmission. right ?
@@Kerveros1904 yes. Or put in a used one. I would do the clutch too while it's out. What make and model car?
@@paulkelley86 it is a triumph 2000 mk1 1968.
So I just had a new clutch, flywheel, and throw out bearing put in my 2005 Acura TL and it makes this noise only when it’s cold in the mornings and it only last for 5-10 seconds. And if you press the clutch it goes away. So if the clutch is out it makes noise for a few seconds. Is there any way this could fix its self with some time? It only has about 80 miles on it. Could a clutch pedal adjustment on the master cylinder rod cure this?
Andrew Grunkemeyer tighten up the clutch under the Pedal it’s more than likely engaging it a bit and causing stress when not needed.
Jeremie Main wouldn’t tightening it make it engage?
Andrew Grunkemeyer no
When you push the pedal down a bit it stops, adjust the pedal till it stops( adjust it as much as possible if you can to make sure it isn’t engaging at higher speeds sounds weird but yeah)
I literally just fixed a car with the same problem and it’s perfect now, it happens sometimes when putting new clutches in
How long (500miles?) can I drive a car with this issue?
No one can answer that question. It may fail severely soon or last thousands of miles. I have seen them go quite a while but no guarantee
Paul Kelley mine lasted an year and I finally had the whole clutch kit replaced yesterday. for some reason I can shift but for some reason Natural neutral position seems to be off(maybe problem in cable) and on top of that it’s jerks when I change gears a little bit, how is that possible if the whole clutch kit is new?
same sound and i lost my gear 1 ,2 and my reverse what i can do
"Lost 1,2 and R" could mean a lot of things. You need to be more specific about exactly what you mean. Shifter wont enter those gears? Shifter enters those gears fine but jt wont move? Shifter will enter but you have to slam it and they grind?
Turn off the car, shift to first while engine off. If it will go in, that is a good sign for transmission being OK. Then start engine and try to take off, aka let clutch pedal up. If it goes. Again another good sign.
Same procedure in reverse.
Basically my theory based on your very limited information is that the clutch disc won't completely release. If that's the case, it will be very difficult to shift. Starting with engine off will make it easy to shift if the problem is the clutch.
If engine off does not allow you to shift, and my above procedures do not work, you may be looking at transmission issues as well but I suspect not.
I have a whining sound when i press the clutch it goes away. I know its not the throw out bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate or flywheel or pilot bearing. Cause ive already replace them. But im guessing its the tranmission, or center diff. Or rear diff. Or main main shaft inlet. Cause mostly its loud on 1st and 2nd gears alil on 3rd to 5th. Any suggestions?
But it is quiet in neutral with clutch pedal out and depressed?
You need to determine if the noise changes with engine speed or with wheel speed.
@@paulkelley86 yes its quiet only when im in gears
@@jrortiz1293 there are a lot of possibilities, some of which you mentioned. The fact that it does not do it in neutral would have eliminated the clutch pilot, release bearing, and transmission input shaft bearing.
Focus on the driveline between the transmission output shaft and wheels. If you have access to a lift, maybe you can diagnose it in the air while "moving" and a stethoscope.
@@paulkelley86 thanks dude! Ill do that whenever i have time. Hopefully its the rear diff not the center diff. Thanks again. 😎👌👍
When I’m in 1st and Reverse as I’m letting my foot off the clutch and give it gas to take off I hear a really loud grinding noise, it happens when I hit the pressure point on the clutch and continues for a second or two after I let off of it completely, does anyone have any idea what that could be? I thought it might be a bad throw out bearing but I tried what these people did and I’m not getting the same noise so I’m at a loss of what it could be, occasionally it’ll do it when I shift into second
I have the same problem
Possibly the gearbox only way to know is to drop the trans
Could be your pilot bearing if you’re having difficulty shifting to first or reverse
Hi I've just had my clutch and thrust bearing done on my mondeo ghia x, it doesn't squeak but has a rubbing noise at various phases of the peddle being pushed like in the vid, will that noise go after a while as the parts are new or do I need to get it checked again.
The only thing that will change as it breaks in likely is how the clutch disc engagement feels. Kind if like new brake pads. It might start off kind of grabby or slipping and smell but after break in will normalize.
I don't think a noise will get better. Some brand release bearings make more noise than others. It may be worth talking to the shop and seeing what they think, or at least documenting it in case it fails or gets really bad.
Some times new parts are defective. Sometimes aftermarket parts are built to different standards and perform a little different. Some part warranties will cover just the part and others actually pay labor in addition to the new part, although not many. For example if a dealer did OEM and it failed, the manufacturer would pay the dealer labor and provide a new part.
I would talk to the shop and see what they think.
How long can you drive around with that issue
Till it breaks I guess!
Honestly though, could be days or months before it causes damage to other parts. Eventually it will.
learn to change gear without the clutch. hahahaha!
@@Francois_Dupont l felt this commeny but technically you'd have to be a bit flooring or at a high rpm w.o stopping lol
My jeep sounds like that without pushing on the clutch. Not sure what it can be I shift and downshift right and don't use the clutch as a footrest. Any help?
my 2010 mustang is making a noise when my foot is off the clutch in all gears especially 3rdbut its quiet when I push the clutch down is this a pilot bearing or throw-out bearing?
Does it make the noise when you release the pedal in neutral?
Not the pilot for sure. Possibly the throw out but also possible that it is in the transmission.
@@paulkelley86 yeah it makes it in all gears when my foot is off the clutch
@@RICKYBOBBY6996 typically with a throw out bearing you can change the pitch of the noise with varying pedal pressure.
If it is a transmission noise it may change with either engine rpm (input shaft), vehicle speed (output shaft), or in different gears (speed gear needle bearings). You may find a stethoscope helpful or draining transmission fluid and checking for bearing debris.
Further diagnosis is needed.
🤔 Mine only when it's really cold out but goes away once warmed up
So my 93 DA has a cable clutch, I'm assuming this is hydrologic & makes a different sound 🤔 😅 help a girl out? Ouuf
Not really, same sounds. Different repair procedures and added maintenance of cable adjustment but same symptoms.
Can u mess up the clutch ?
You can mess up the clutch and more.
lets just say I needed a new CV joint after a garage did my clutch 😂🤷♂️
Bro my car having that kind pf nosie at cold start and not in running what does that mean
I can't comprehend this sentence, sorry.
@@paulkelley86 thanks for reply, that quicky sound is coming when I start my car and release the clutch, especially while releasing clutch
@aryanghait2274 you don't provide enough information. Can't help you.
Release the clutch could mean releasing the pedal which is applying the clutch disc. No clue if it is a rotational sound that changes with rpm, pedal pressure, etc. I am out. My advice is to pay someone with expertise to diagnose it for you.
@@paulkelley86 ty
Damn that’s exactly what just happened to me. Mines been going on for months and I didn’t know what it was until I ripped in 3rd and I couldn’t go into any gear no more
I don't understand English very well so I'm interested in what this is, I have a similar problem.
What language you speak? maybe I can help
What if my car makes the same noise as in the video but keeps on making it even when the clutch is pressed all the way down?
Based on it making noise both applied and released I would lean toward the release bearing since it does always spin. BUT it should change pitch with pedal pressure if this is true. Or your clutch release (whether cable or hydraulic) may have insufficient free play and always hold the release bearing with pressure on it.
@@paulkelley86 so there is a chance it may be only the pedal cable that needs to be changed? or if i need to change the bearing i need to change the whole clutch kit?
@@AlexVoda14 if the bearing is making noise it needs to be changed. But the root cause of failure may be cable adjustment or binding if your clutch is the cable type. That may also be the reason it makes noise all the time rather than changing with pedal up vs pedal down.