If anyone is surprised that the government contracted Tatra to make these rail cars, one thing to remember is that for at least 20 years before they made their first automobile, Tatra had been prolific in making making railway rolling stock, which was a majority of their business for the automobile, and continued to be up until the 70s or 80s if I am not mistaken! So these little diesel railcars were by no means their first foray into the world of railways, but rather a continuation of their storied history of railway production!
We used to call this railbus "Hurvínek". The units that replaced these had an engine from an actual bus and some are in service to this day in many different versions. Many people love to hate these railbusses, but they helped to preserve rural railways that would have been long closed without them.
As someone growing up on one of these rural railways who use 810 to get to school as kid I quite aoreciate it. And love them unconditionaly to this day.
I wonder how many nations did the same thing, it certainly happened in the UK with lorry engine and gearboxes then bus drivetrain, the frogs did too many drugs in the 60's and ended up with gas turbine railcars.
Not only the engine, but 4 speed hydromechanical transmision too, only the original reverse remained unused on this transmision box, and an another gearbox was added only for the purpose of reversing the direction of travel
Of course it's air cooled, of course it sounds beasty as hell, of course it's a Tatra engine. meanwhile in France many narrow gauge railcars made by Billiard or Renault had manual gearboxes too.
Poland also had diesel railcars of various manufacturers on the narrow gauge. Some were factory built, some were repurposed passenger cars, but even the factory-built ones could be very primitive, usually sporting an OHV diesel and a non-synchronized manual transmission straight from a truck. Some were even single-cab, requiring the railcar to be turned on a turntable or a track wye. Narrow gauge is a whole different "universe" than the standard railway in many respects.
In some depots train drivers called it "Tříruké hovado". It means something like a "three hand monster", because there were 3 levers on the main controll panel. 😆
., jak chceš převést řazení z nákladního vozu TATRA 111 do motorového vozu v tehdejší době? Dodnes to jezdí na historických jízdách. Strojvůdci řadí bez problémů.
i think they are worldwide, they sell cargo vehicles. many fire departments in the capital of czech republic, prague, still buy and use tatra-made firetrucks
It's really interesting that M131 (801) series is known not only in Czech and Slovak republic. And I'm happy that videos like this are produced, because it's really good work. Like and greetings from Jaroměř, Czech republic.
4:47.... it does not only enhance relaibility, it also enhance passenger-confort (less motor speed, lesser loudness). So, as you meantioning, the train-engine for that vehicle, is reduced to even 155 HP and 1600 u/min. That is way less loud and intrusive running noise. Besides the possible fact, that for normal use, that power-mode is absolutely enough. And there is a phenomen at ship-diesel running (and noising). They rev even lower and with way higher displacement, it results in a hypnoticing deep rythmical noise...barely hearable (infrasound via resonance within the ships steel construction?). So, low revs are lesser stressing, because of that phenomen of deep frequencies and that rythmic sound.
Most of local railways this train was implemented don´t allow speeds over 60kph because sharp turns and many level crossings including dirtroads with no safety features.
“Reducing the need for diesel electric trains” Proceeds to show a clip of a class 55 “Deltic”, which is fitted with an opposed-piston 6 cylinder Napier Deltic marine diesel engine
Small railcars like this existed in many countries, they were developed for those lines where passenger traffic wasn't enough to justify the use of full size steam or diesel locomotives with just 1 or 2 cars. That just wouldn't be economical. These little railcars with drive technology based on busses and trucks were much cheaper to build and operate and saved many branch lines from closure. For instance West Germany had the "Schienenbus" VT95 and VT98, East Germany the VT2.09 "Ferkeltaxen", Belgium the Class 551, 552 and 553 "Brossel" , and the Netherlands the omC and omBC "Ome Ceesje" to name a few, the UK had also diesel mechanical rail busses from 4 different manufacturers, but there they were less of a success.
@@PG-nf9wx the Desiro even feels like riding on a bus, as the ones in Romania have a regular automatic gearbox, albeit without the gears allowing for much RPM fluctuation
I remember a railbus - "ferrobus" - around Salamanca, in 1984. I was amazed to see the driver shifting gears. He was there for all to see, the whole thing was not much more than a bus with trainwheels.
Until relatively recently (at least 2013) Cardiff, Wales, UK had a single-car manual gearbox diesel passenger train, running from Cardiff Queen St. to Cardiff Docks (the bay) - a single stop line.
In America A-lot of plymouth locomotives has Manuel's. With engine options such as v12's, v8's, I6's, v6's ect Some of these have has 357s and big blocks swapped into them!
These days we just take 1 (or 2 with a shared mid bogie, superficially similar to an articulated bus) passenger rail car, put a bus engine with corresponding automatic transmission at each end-bogie, and are happy. Well, at least in Germany; Voith makes the transmissions as they do need some care for the rail use; the engines don't need notable engineering specialization for this usage, it seems. The gearing to the axle is typically a bit different as the wheel diameter and maximum speed differ from bus usage, but still....
In America we had, and in some places still have diesel railcars known as RDCs. They were diesel-hydralic (hydralic toruqe converter) as apposed to diesel-mechanical.
In New Zealand we had the Vulcan Railcars from the 1940s to the 1970s. It was fascinating hearing these railcars going up through the gears after leaving the station.... One still holds the unofficial speed record for any train to this day... (narrow guage rail so not very fast..... 128kmh)
the preselector manual gearbox was a British invention. Leyland was the first to implement that on mass. The routemaster bus also had a preselector manual gearbox. I remember from my youth that in Leyland/Daf public transport busses the driver had a pedestal wth a H pattern and small knob to preselect gears. (Leyland engine and drivetrain were build under license by DAF) Pushing the clutch pedal would engage the selected gear. Nowadays in modern manual truck gearboxes it can automaticly preselect and engage gears and act like an automatic. A manual gearbox is way more energy efficient then for example a classic hydraulic automatic gearbox.
Tatra (1850) like Skoda (1859) were already wellknown industrial manufacturers when the Chzech republic was still a part of the Austrian Hungarian empire. Today Tatra ( who went bankrupt in the 2013 due to a corruption scandal in India) is after a restart and partly owned by PACCAR/DAF specialised in the niche heavy duty off road for construction/mining sites and military truck market. Tatra came in the picture after PACCAR/DAF searched for a new partner after GINAF (in the same niche market) went bankrupt and was sold of to the Chinese. Military contracts and outside the west/NATO owner was an absolute no go for US parent company PACCAR. Fun fact the former warsaw pact countries had mostly the famous Tatra trams. The former western NATO countries are getting more and more Skoda trams/regional trains.
Another fun fact: Skoda Group/Skoda transportation, who makes the trams and trains, has nothing to do with the Skoda car manufacturer - these companies were split during communist era (with couple of other subsidiaries), but both had right for the trademark after the communism fell. Recently, Skoda auto bozght exclusive rights for the logo, so Skoda Transportation will rebrand in the coming years.
Poland produced few railcars with mechanical transmission in the '90 even. With automatic gearboxes though. They were basicly draisine frame with passenger compartment added.
None of such vehicles were made. First, the (very late) attempt at a light diesel railcar was class SN81, which was bascially a repurposed maintenance-of-way wehicle, with *manual* transmission and only the heading unit was operational during a ride, there was no multiple control. A very makeshift solution to an important problem. Later on this... "thing" served as the basis for its sucessor SA104, which was made in one example before further orders were cancelled, and this one has an automatic transmission (ZF) indeed, as well as more serious carbody construction and interior equipment. There were also SA101 and SA102 diesel units, but these were designed from ground-up, also with automatic transmission, but the production count was also very low before the production was cancelled.
Manual transmissions in rail vehicles isn't that uncommon, though mostly limited to very light, narrow guage applications. There was a Hungarian narrow guage loco that I think used the trans from a Csepel truck. It had the standard 4 or 5 speed transmission with a 2 speed range box, and even had the reverse on the transmission, despite that being irrelevant since rail vehicles have reversers to allow same speed travel in either direction anyway.
., toto bylo vyrobeno hlupáku v roce 1948 po válce . V roce 1945 bombardovala a zničila naše firmy a továrny americká a anglická letadla. Nezabíjej a nebombarduj cizí státy. To si pamatuj.
1:41 The term Československé Štátne Dráhy is in the Slovak language. In Czech language it is Československé Státní Dráhy. The difference is in the words: Státní - Štátne. And in the pronunciation...
@@STFDVC1 railway actually translates to "železnice". "Dráha", literally meaning track or path, is term for various types of transport relying on fixed paths, like different types of railways cableways or trolleybus networks - some of them were managed by ČSD alongside the railway network.
@@Papinak2 I indeed thought it meant something similar to german "bahn". I am looking to come to Praha and load the car on the train, heading to Košice. One of the few automobile-trains left in Europe... This would be my first time on the C. S. Dráhy
Actually, there is a much bigger hungarian railcar, with semi-manual gearbox. The clutch is not really manual but pneumatic, it can be used in slip mode in first gear to get it move, and every other gears with pre-selected fuel load in in the actual gear. Its engine is about 65.000 cubic centimetres in 12 cylinders, driving the output shaft via a 6 disc lamelled clutch. Well, this old lady has a very good sound
náhodná okolnost, hurvajz tedkom (14.7.) vykolejil v lednici na historických jízdách. respektive motorová jednotka ne, ale pouze samotné přívěsy této řady, které byly taženy hektorem (lokomotivou 720), protože motorový vůz měl prý roztavený jeden válec. nicméně jako náhrada jezdil hektor, těžká nákladní lokomotiva, na kterou ta trať z břeclavi do lednice uplne nebyla uzpůsobená, a byla i časem degradovaná. vlak vykolejil v pravotočivé zátočině, a jelikož jsem trasou nedávno jel, vím, že tam lehký motorák umí pěkně poskakovat, zejména když v zátočině najede na dilataci mezi kolejema. nejspíš došlo k tomu, že těžká lokomotiva "rozsedla" částečně koleje v mistě dilatace, nicméně sama se na kolejích udržela, kdežto malý lehký motorák byl nerovností nadhozen, a vykolejil. škoda je prý okolo milionu na trati a milionu na vozech
It put some character. Nice rail car. Not many examples of diesel "mechanical" (gearbox) trains. Here there are some small 2 coach trains with scania engine and trans. I think it is kinda of AT transmission. They are like this ones, for small towns that are far from any rail network. Mostly used in light applications.. Ive heard they have experienced driveshaft issues. It is not that easy to get this thing right.
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Can be operated by wire cables,electronicaly,hydraulic..etc. Some old cars have this so why levers that are confusing to use and really not makes sense to me.
@@joe125ful Railways systems are alll about bringing the train to a halt if anything goes wrong..f.g. Westinghouse brakes....deadman's pedal..etc. The gearbox is a pre selector that, once you understand the principles, is easy to use...... and all laid out on the dash cam be quickly scanned with the eye ...... and moved with the hand.
Air cooled anything has larger clearances piston to cylinder built in.(more expansion/contraction with air cooling Plus whether you burn diesel or sump oil...the diesel doesn't care...it burns both. And ATF and hydraulic fluid and peanut/soy/banana/vegetable oils... Plus we are now looking at 80 years of wear and tear on those engines...?
I've been a huge fan of ČD railways and the former ČSD Railways also, i did not know the hurvínek has a manual gearbox until now, also what caused the noise of the ticking sound in every train that has a steering throttle?
You mean as the throttle was moved? Probably a spring mechanism winding up to capture force that automatically returned the throttle to closed when the throttle was released (like a "dead man's device?)
In 1988 I was on a train in Scotland that was a manual shift 3 speed maybe more but it never got above 3. Learned much later it was probably a Gardner diesel motor. It vibrated like crazy and rattled the whole car. A fun experience.
Having bus or truck engines and transmissions on small regional trains is nothing new or unheard of. Many use a torque converter transmission from a city bus
C'mon, do you have to pick in him when you realize English isn't his mother tongue...? Not everyone is fortunate to have been born in an English-speaking country. FYI - SEVERAL times a week I observe comments in various forums written by naturally born American or British English speaking people that contain OBVIOUS misspellings or errors in syntax. Still I - as an alien - don't reach out to correct them. It's called politeness
No need... those engines were usually derated and the vehicles were designed not to exceed 60kmh with uncontrolled crossings, ad hoc pickups and drop offs etc. to contend with on their countryside runs...
Im very like videos. But this not the only Diesel-Mechanic unit. The germans had the VT95 Schienenbus: th-cam.com/video/_V-w-SqkP8E/w-d-xo.html Hungarian Railway had its fair share of Diesel-mechanic traction: Some of them like the Bcmot from the 1930s: th-cam.com/video/n1U2fJLgGQs/w-d-xo.html After war motorcar, the ABbmot which had a V12 Jendrassik diesel engine: th-cam.com/video/zA6j5wHziA4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/jU-9xG_ZynU/w-d-xo.html The shunting loco M28, inline-6 Csepel diesel engine th-cam.com/video/qeONW-_LaDE/w-d-xo.html Later they started building Diesel-Hydraulics, and Diesel-Electic rollingstock. The small railmotorcars replaced by the Bzmot "Stundenka" made in Czechoslovakia: th-cam.com/video/f9l8weFXSGo/w-d-xo.html
If anyone is surprised that the government contracted Tatra to make these rail cars, one thing to remember is that for at least 20 years before they made their first automobile, Tatra had been prolific in making making railway rolling stock, which was a majority of their business for the automobile, and continued to be up until the 70s or 80s if I am not mistaken! So these little diesel railcars were by no means their first foray into the world of railways, but rather a continuation of their storied history of railway production!
They made whole chassis for 460 pantograph unit, the company was called Studénka vagonka, Tatra was main producent for technologies, parts etc..
Thank you so much for the info. Great little insight to tatra past which I didn't know about
Yes I am
@@lukesmith8792 You’re welcome!!
Tatra made automobiles?
We used to call this railbus "Hurvínek". The units that replaced these had an engine from an actual bus and some are in service to this day in many different versions. Many people love to hate these railbusses, but they helped to preserve rural railways that would have been long closed without them.
As someone growing up on one of these rural railways who use 810 to get to school as kid I quite aoreciate it. And love them unconditionaly to this day.
I wonder how many nations did the same thing, it certainly happened in the UK with lorry engine and gearboxes then bus drivetrain, the frogs did too many drugs in the 60's and ended up with gas turbine railcars.
Not only the engine, but 4 speed hydromechanical transmision too, only the original reverse remained unused on this transmision box, and an another gearbox was added only for the purpose of reversing the direction of travel
Man I used to love these when going skiing in Šumava.
We had the same thing in the UK, we call them Pacers.
we got manual v12 mid engine trains before gta 6
Rowing gears while riding the rails. Hell yeah haha
we got manual v12 mid engine trains before even computers or GTA 1 :D
So what
Of course it's air cooled, of course it sounds beasty as hell, of course it's a Tatra engine.
meanwhile in France many narrow gauge railcars made by Billiard or Renault had manual gearboxes too.
Poland also had diesel railcars of various manufacturers on the narrow gauge. Some were factory built, some were repurposed passenger cars, but even the factory-built ones could be very primitive, usually sporting an OHV diesel and a non-synchronized manual transmission straight from a truck. Some were even single-cab, requiring the railcar to be turned on a turntable or a track wye. Narrow gauge is a whole different "universe" than the standard railway in many respects.
In some depots train drivers called it "Tříruké hovado". It means something like a "three hand monster", because there were 3 levers on the main controll panel. 😆
., jak chceš převést řazení z nákladního vozu TATRA 111 do motorového vozu v tehdejší době? Dodnes to jezdí na historických jízdách. Strojvůdci řadí bez problémů.
@@romansvehla7352 Copak já to kritizuji? Mně se to řešení líbí. Jen konstatuji, jak tomu údajně dobově říkali někteří strojvedoucí.
The more I hear about Tatra engines the more I with they had gone worldwide. Sounds like a true workhorse.
i think they are worldwide, they sell cargo vehicles. many fire departments in the capital of czech republic, prague, still buy and use tatra-made firetrucks
India as well
@@oadka Hey, you are one of the only places in the world to find old David Brown parts! Treasure them!
@@prazakkk Yes but they didn't make it to Darwell, Alberta, Canada!
@@oadka Tatra or Tata?
I love railbusses! They look perfectly imperfect. 😁
I rode on a couple of those trains, totally cool to see the drivers shifting gears.
It's really interesting that M131 (801) series is known not only in Czech and Slovak republic. And I'm happy that videos like this are produced, because it's really good work. Like and greetings from Jaroměř, Czech republic.
4:47.... it does not only enhance relaibility, it also enhance passenger-confort (less motor speed, lesser loudness). So, as you meantioning, the train-engine for that vehicle, is reduced to even 155 HP and 1600 u/min. That is way less loud and intrusive running noise. Besides the possible fact, that for normal use, that power-mode is absolutely enough.
And there is a phenomen at ship-diesel running (and noising). They rev even lower and with way higher displacement, it results in a hypnoticing deep rythmical noise...barely hearable (infrasound via resonance within the ships steel construction?). So, low revs are lesser stressing, because of that phenomen of deep frequencies and that rythmic sound.
Most of local railways this train was implemented don´t allow speeds over 60kph because sharp turns and many level crossings including dirtroads with no safety features.
The engine speed of large ships is crazy low, around 100 rpm.
Tatra and their air cooled V12 diesels...
I still want a T813.
Tatra 111
Its also worth noting that Tatra already made such small railbuses even before the war.
"Věžák" and many others
I'm speechless hearing about my hometown
“Reducing the need for diesel electric trains”
Proceeds to show a clip of a class 55 “Deltic”, which is fitted with an opposed-piston 6 cylinder Napier Deltic marine diesel engine
18 cylinders 3 crankshafts , 36 pistons in a triangle
Interesting railcar design. Thank you.
The diesels in Australia are literally diesel trucks on rails with a manual gearbox
Small railcars like this existed in many countries, they were developed for those lines where passenger traffic wasn't enough to justify the use of full size steam or diesel locomotives with just 1 or 2 cars. That just wouldn't be economical. These little railcars with drive technology based on busses and trucks were much cheaper to build and operate and saved many branch lines from closure. For instance West Germany had the "Schienenbus" VT95 and VT98, East Germany the VT2.09 "Ferkeltaxen", Belgium the Class 551, 552 and 553 "Brossel" , and the Netherlands the omC and omBC "Ome Ceesje" to name a few, the UK had also diesel mechanical rail busses from 4 different manufacturers, but there they were less of a success.
Looking at the exhaust smoke, it looks like they ran on coal rather than diesel 😁
So would your exhaust at 80 years old.......
which is a bad thing
., vyrobeno v roce 1948 . Jsi hloupý .
In France We called them autorails and MICHELINEs when they were on tires
This reminds me of the BR Class 101, I have only driven it in simulators but i must say its a unique driving experience.
The Ultimate Enthusiast experience
Italian Aln663 Aln668 class have manual gearbox too.
What a fun little train.
It's so weird to see a train and hear a diesel engine going through the gears 🤯
very common in europe with small railcars, like Stadler RS1 or Siemens Desiro
@@PG-nf9wx the Desiro even feels like riding on a bus, as the ones in Romania have a regular automatic gearbox, albeit without the gears allowing for much RPM fluctuation
You could hear the gears shift on a Stadler RegioSwinger
I remember a railbus - "ferrobus" - around Salamanca, in 1984. I was amazed to see the driver shifting gears. He was there for all to see, the whole thing was not much more than a bus with trainwheels.
That's wild! Dom is gonna use one in the next F&F to catch a bullet train carrying the mcguffin.
Nah Dom is gonna steal one of these when he travels back in time to save his dad because family
Until relatively recently (at least 2013) Cardiff, Wales, UK had a single-car manual gearbox diesel passenger train, running from Cardiff Queen St. to Cardiff Docks (the bay) - a single stop line.
Beautiful story and great inventions , and even merrier engine sound , long live the Manschaft and the Duech tech ❤️
those of us who watch this channel, we can all agree, for much of the 20th century Tatra were pretty awesome 😎👏
When I was a child I droved in one of this.
My mum called it Schienenbus (German for rail-bus) 😅
It was loud and slow but funny ❣️👌🏼
We used railcars up to mid eighties in uk they had a manual gearbox with fluid flywheel coupling to the engine
Sweden had those too. Maybe not as late as in the 60's but we had em.
Reminds me of New Jersey Transit and how they had special engines built because it's a mix of electrified and non electrified lines.
In America A-lot of plymouth locomotives has Manuel's. With engine options such as v12's, v8's, I6's, v6's ect
Some of these have has 357s and big blocks swapped into them!
These days we just take 1 (or 2 with a shared mid bogie, superficially similar to an articulated bus) passenger rail car, put a bus engine with corresponding automatic transmission at each end-bogie, and are happy. Well, at least in Germany; Voith makes the transmissions as they do need some care for the rail use; the engines don't need notable engineering specialization for this usage, it seems.
The gearing to the axle is typically a bit different as the wheel diameter and maximum speed differ from bus usage, but still....
In America we had, and in some places still have diesel railcars known as RDCs. They were diesel-hydralic (hydralic toruqe converter) as apposed to diesel-mechanical.
In New Zealand we had the Vulcan Railcars from the 1940s to the 1970s.
It was fascinating hearing these railcars going up through the gears after leaving the station....
One still holds the unofficial speed record for any train to this day... (narrow guage rail so not very fast..... 128kmh)
As we brits would say, those DMUs are hellfire
You said it somehow very well in Czech 😁
UK also had a manual transmission train that used an entire semi-truck power train & those were quite modern.
the preselector manual gearbox was a British invention.
Leyland was the first to implement that on mass.
The routemaster bus also had a preselector manual gearbox.
I remember from my youth that in Leyland/Daf public transport busses the driver had a pedestal wth a H pattern and small knob to preselect gears. (Leyland engine and drivetrain were build under license by DAF)
Pushing the clutch pedal would engage the selected gear.
Nowadays in modern manual truck gearboxes it can automaticly preselect and engage gears and act like an automatic.
A manual gearbox is way more energy efficient then for example a classic hydraulic automatic gearbox.
Tatra (1850) like Skoda (1859) were already wellknown industrial manufacturers when the Chzech republic was still a part of the Austrian Hungarian empire.
Today Tatra ( who went bankrupt in the 2013 due to a corruption scandal in India) is after a restart and partly owned by PACCAR/DAF specialised in the niche heavy duty off road for construction/mining sites and military truck market.
Tatra came in the picture after PACCAR/DAF searched for a new partner after GINAF (in the same niche market) went bankrupt and was sold of to the Chinese.
Military contracts and outside the west/NATO owner was an absolute no go for US parent company PACCAR.
Fun fact the former warsaw pact countries had mostly the famous Tatra trams. The former western NATO countries are getting more and more Skoda trams/regional trains.
Portland has Škoda streetcars…
Another fun fact: Skoda Group/Skoda transportation, who makes the trams and trains, has nothing to do with the Skoda car manufacturer - these companies were split during communist era (with couple of other subsidiaries), but both had right for the trademark after the communism fell. Recently, Skoda auto bozght exclusive rights for the logo, so Skoda Transportation will rebrand in the coming years.
., TATRA je v majetku rodiny Strnadových z České republiky. Píšeš lži.
That is very cool! I'd like to see it in person.
Poland produced few railcars with mechanical transmission in the '90 even. With automatic gearboxes though. They were basicly draisine frame with passenger compartment added.
None of such vehicles were made. First, the (very late) attempt at a light diesel railcar was class SN81, which was bascially a repurposed maintenance-of-way wehicle, with *manual* transmission and only the heading unit was operational during a ride, there was no multiple control. A very makeshift solution to an important problem. Later on this... "thing" served as the basis for its sucessor SA104, which was made in one example before further orders were cancelled, and this one has an automatic transmission (ZF) indeed, as well as more serious carbody construction and interior equipment. There were also SA101 and SA102 diesel units, but these were designed from ground-up, also with automatic transmission, but the production count was also very low before the production was cancelled.
In the DPRB, some of the railways run DMUs which have ZF automatic transmissions.
Manual transmissions in rail vehicles isn't that uncommon, though mostly limited to very light, narrow guage applications. There was a Hungarian narrow guage loco that I think used the trans from a Csepel truck. It had the standard 4 or 5 speed transmission with a 2 speed range box, and even had the reverse on the transmission, despite that being irrelevant since rail vehicles have reversers to allow same speed travel in either direction anyway.
In Czech we gave them popular nickname: Hurvínek.
Kurvínek
On the class 100s, 117 and 121 in Uk they got manual transmission (no clutch but you have to take off throttle to go up a gear, then put throttle on)
., toto bylo vyrobeno hlupáku v roce 1948 po válce . V roce 1945 bombardovala a zničila naše firmy a továrny americká a anglická letadla. Nezabíjej a nebombarduj cizí státy. To si pamatuj.
The railcars built by the GWR in the UK used 5-speed pre-selector gear boxes.
Fascinating video.
Lovely vehicle
1:41
The term Československé Štátne Dráhy is in the Slovak language.
In Czech language it is Československé Státní Dráhy.
The difference is in the words: Státní - Štátne. And in the pronunciation...
"Railways " has a very peculiar translation here. So different from most of slavic languages
@@STFDVC1 railway actually translates to "železnice". "Dráha", literally meaning track or path, is term for various types of transport relying on fixed paths, like different types of railways cableways or trolleybus networks - some of them were managed by ČSD alongside the railway network.
@@Papinak2 I indeed thought it meant something similar to german "bahn". I am looking to come to Praha and load the car on the train, heading to Košice. One of the few automobile-trains left in Europe... This would be my first time on the C. S. Dráhy
Actually, there is a much bigger hungarian railcar, with semi-manual gearbox. The clutch is not really manual but pneumatic, it can be used in slip mode in first gear to get it move, and every other gears with pre-selected fuel load in in the actual gear. Its engine is about 65.000 cubic centimetres in 12 cylinders, driving the output shaft via a 6 disc lamelled clutch. Well, this old lady has a very good sound
Wow, the action of changing gears is closer to what you'd do on a bike than on a car :D Thanks for the video!
Good video, like.
Watching this on a train
also this train was in czech film "rebelové", its film about young people in 1968, before the warsaw treaty
., dnes je to horší. Mnohem.
náhodná okolnost, hurvajz tedkom (14.7.) vykolejil v lednici na historických jízdách. respektive motorová jednotka ne, ale pouze samotné přívěsy této řady, které byly taženy hektorem (lokomotivou 720), protože motorový vůz měl prý roztavený jeden válec. nicméně jako náhrada jezdil hektor, těžká nákladní lokomotiva, na kterou ta trať z břeclavi do lednice uplne nebyla uzpůsobená, a byla i časem degradovaná. vlak vykolejil v pravotočivé zátočině, a jelikož jsem trasou nedávno jel, vím, že tam lehký motorák umí pěkně poskakovat, zejména když v zátočině najede na dilataci mezi kolejema. nejspíš došlo k tomu, že těžká lokomotiva "rozsedla" částečně koleje v mistě dilatace, nicméně sama se na kolejích udržela, kdežto malý lehký motorák byl nerovností nadhozen, a vykolejil. škoda je prý okolo milionu na trati a milionu na vozech
trains with manual gearboxs were pretty common back then. However, I had no idea there would be an AIR COOLED train to ever exist. Typical Tatra!
So a month ago we had a vid on the Russian 12 x 12 locomotive turned into a truck and today we have a bus that was turned into a locomotive. . . .
Only the engine is from a bus
The British rail class 101 also has a manual gearbox
Impressive. Europe ftw
Czechia mentioned!!!
It put some character. Nice rail car. Not many examples of diesel "mechanical" (gearbox) trains. Here there are some small 2 coach trains with scania engine and trans. I think it is kinda of AT transmission. They are like this ones, for small towns that are far from any rail network. Mostly used in light applications.. Ive heard they have experienced driveshaft issues. It is not that easy to get this thing right.
The Gulflander in Australia has a manual gearbox because it’s a truck put on the rails
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Love it. 👍
The most important question is, does anyone make a shortshift for it😉👍
And the jake brake, can't forget that.
We had manual transmission trains in the uk
Class 101-102 fitted with a epicyclic 4 speed gearbox
A lot more than those classes. Most 1st gen DMUs were bus engined, semi auto with freewheel.
Yeah British United transport bus engines
@@susansmith3568 Oh yes, B.U.T. I never knew what that stood for. It's always a good day when you learn something new. 👍
3:29 It must be hard to shift all those levers AND steer
steer 😂
También hay un parecido tren DMU class 101 en Reino Unido....
"Endžinýrs from Kopšivnice" is new "ví, politišns" 😎
Imagine doing burnouts on stations:):)
And iam sure it not have TC.
7:26 I really didnt expect that owercomplicated geabox.
Beats having to shove down a .75 metre pedal with your right foot....or a 1 metre long handlebar clutch lever?
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Can be operated by wire cables,electronicaly,hydraulic..etc.
Some old cars have this so why levers that are confusing to use and really not makes sense to me.
@@joe125ful
Railways systems are alll about bringing the train to a halt if anything goes wrong..f.g. Westinghouse brakes....deadman's pedal..etc.
The gearbox is a pre selector that, once you understand the principles, is easy to use......
and all laid out on the dash cam be quickly scanned with the eye ......
and moved with the hand.
Wonder why Tatra diesels have always made that thick blue smoke
Air cooled anything has larger clearances piston to cylinder built in.(more expansion/contraction with air cooling
Plus whether you burn diesel or sump oil...the diesel doesn't care...it burns both.
And ATF
and hydraulic fluid
and peanut/soy/banana/vegetable oils...
Plus we are now looking at 80 years of wear and tear on those engines...?
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Deutz air-cooled engines does not smoke that much.
It only have a single pair of powered wheel?
yes
It's not a train, it's a railcar.
Proletarian version of other Tatra's railcar "Slovenská strela".
I've been a huge fan of ČD railways and the former ČSD Railways also, i did not know the hurvínek has a manual gearbox until now, also what caused the noise of the ticking sound in every train that has a steering throttle?
You mean as the throttle was moved?
Probably a spring mechanism winding up to capture force that automatically returned the throttle to closed when the throttle was released (like a "dead man's device?)
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk dead man pedal.
Didn't they use a similar prime mover of also Tatra design and similar transmission in the earlier M.120 class?
How about the dm3 from derail valley
In 1988 I was on a train in Scotland that was a manual shift 3 speed maybe more but it never got above 3. Learned much later it was probably a Gardner diesel motor. It vibrated like crazy and rattled the whole car. A fun experience.
Out of balance Gardners were few and far between....
something wrong there
might also account for no exceeding 3rd gear...
Probably not Gardner. More likely Leyland or AEC. Some parts of the country also used Rolls Royce
most european countries had railbusses post ww2 as they where an economic way of keeping smaller passenger lines open.
Kdo je čech nebo slovák ať dá like
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The only real railbus
They'd have loved the Pacer trains from the UK.
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Technically, Its semi-auto. Also, do note that this boxer engine is literally an evolution of German ww2 production.
There´s no boxer engine?
Yes not a boxer but a 75 degree v12.
., vývoj TATRA před válkou , ty německý boxere. Jsi hloupý.
Having bus or truck engines and transmissions on small regional trains is nothing new or unheard of.
Many use a torque converter transmission from a city bus
That's the case for successor of this railcar, 810 series had geartrain from ŠM-11 city bus.
I want a train you can shift gears in
What is a "semeye truck"?
C'mon, do you have to pick in him when you realize English isn't his mother tongue...? Not everyone is fortunate to have been born in an English-speaking country. FYI - SEVERAL times a week I observe comments in various forums written by naturally born American or British English speaking people that contain OBVIOUS misspellings or errors in syntax. Still I - as an alien - don't reach out to correct them. It's called politeness
US is like twice the size of europe my guy
This train Is in my country (i'm czech)
Yea just normal czech retro train
is there a HO model of this?
Found that they are made on order by Czech enthusiasts. Try search for "Hurvínek H0"
Are you from Czechoslovakia, Slovakia or Czech ? You pronouced the ČSD very well.
Slovakia
@@VisioRacer Já si to myslel :D
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No turbo???
No need...
those engines were usually derated
and the vehicles were designed not to exceed 60kmh
with uncontrolled crossings, ad hoc pickups and drop offs etc. to contend with on their countryside runs...
Those engines smoke very badly... 🤭
80 years old.......parts NLA?
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk They smoke on the archive footages as well. Back then they were new...
@@janosnagyj.9540
Poor quality sump oils and fuels let alone machining tolerances compared to present days....
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Aluminium*
can it do burnouts?
Iam curious too!!
Wind it up in first gear and sidestep the clutch. Er...side handwave the clutch?
Ofc! Shift into 1st gear and then pull the throttle to max
Im very like videos. But this not the only Diesel-Mechanic unit. The germans had the VT95 Schienenbus:
th-cam.com/video/_V-w-SqkP8E/w-d-xo.html
Hungarian Railway had its fair share of Diesel-mechanic traction:
Some of them like the Bcmot from the 1930s:
th-cam.com/video/n1U2fJLgGQs/w-d-xo.html
After war motorcar, the ABbmot which had a V12 Jendrassik diesel engine:
th-cam.com/video/zA6j5wHziA4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/jU-9xG_ZynU/w-d-xo.html
The shunting loco M28, inline-6 Csepel diesel engine
th-cam.com/video/qeONW-_LaDE/w-d-xo.html
Later they started building Diesel-Hydraulics, and Diesel-Electic rollingstock. The small railmotorcars replaced by the Bzmot "Stundenka" made in Czechoslovakia:
th-cam.com/video/f9l8weFXSGo/w-d-xo.html