@@billquakenbush1692 Wrong. Lots of people came to our country through the military. One of our Olympic 5k/10k runners, Paul Chelimo, migrated here from Kenya. When they realized they had an elite Kenyan runner in basic, they sent him straight to Army track team. I served with several people who came here like that. They deserve citizenship more than most Americans.
I am a US Army veteran. I served for 17 years of active duty. We were all lied to by a recruiter. Not going into much detail, the same thing happened to a friend of mine from El Salvador. He was born in Salvador but came here as a baby. He served with me in the 82nd Airborne, saw combat, and got injured. He was promised citizenship but never got it. The last time I heard from him, he went to a country that he didn’t know, El Salvador.
I was a Marine recruiter 84-87. Used car salesman! Nope. Matter of fact I directed a few folks out of my office when they couldn't tell me that they wanted to be a Marine (vice a computer tech, aviation type, or other technical jobs). Matter of fact I had one kid tell me that he wanted to be an electrician. I slid a pen and a piece of paper to him and said "spell it" and he couldn't. Out the door! Semper Fi brother. USMC Ret.
@@Delimon007 Even worse, I taught HS for 14 years post Marine Corps. Had a senior state that she wanted to be an anesthesiologist. Again I asked her to spell it. She couldn't. I told her that I might not know how to spell it but I didn't want to be an anesthesiologist. Told her that if that was her dream, learn as much as you can about the duties and learn to spell it.
@@tflg3257he did multiple times since he was told he wasn’t US citizen and they were denied cause he didn’t serve “at the right time “ to be entitled. Nice try tho
@@SpaceRanger187 right? You have thousands of illegal immigrants drawing benefits when people like this man are left out in the cold and country less. I’m not against immigration in the slightest, our country regardless of what anyone says was built on and by immigrants. I’m just saying it should be done properly. Think of it this way. Would you let someone in your home without at least knowing a little about who they are? Share meals with someone and allow them free reign of your own home? You’re a liar or a complete fool if you say yes. Some of my best coworkers and friends have been newcomers. But there’s is absolutely nothing wrong with forcing immigrants to go through proper vetting processes. It only wrong to hate an entire people over fear.
I remember when my brother was enlisted into the army, his recruiter had promised him he was going to get I think I remember it was like a $5,000 bonus after completing basic training and AIT, and he ended up with something around $1,000 bonus in the end instead. Complete b.s.
This is disgusting... I am a former Marine and this is UNACCEPTABLE. Man served his time and gave up his youth to serve our contry and not give him US citizenship? Shame on the recruiter for NOT doing their job and NOT making sure this man gets his citizenship.
@marksmith1597 Did he file the paperwork required. I keep hearing the word automatic in the video clip. But no, it's a paperwork process. Foreign born don't automatically become US citizens without applying for it.
@@tflg3257yet, those in his CoC knew his status. I would say you’re right: the blame doesn’t fall entirely on the recruiter, *however*, his leadership most definitely failed him. His Commander, 1SG, first line, and even retention should have checked in with him, made sure he was tracking what the situation was, and educated him or at least gave him the resources and POCs he needed to square him away. It really isn’t any wonder why we’re struggling to keep people and struggling to recruit people into our military nowadays.
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
As a former drill sergeant, I can tell you that recruiters will say just about anything to get someone to join. "But my recruiter told me..." was a very common phrase.
yup... saw a girl crying in AIT because the recruiter told her one thing and she signed something different apparently.... got her witht he old bait and switch... cant trust noone....
I enlisted in the US military as a Resident Alien. I was fully aware that if I wanted my citizenship I would need to apply for it. Eventually I filed the application and became a Naturalized American citizen. I was not lied to, abandoned and looked at the laws and process myself. The INS should do the honorable thing and expedite citizenship for vets like this.
It’s interesting being a resident alien. I was too, I was Australian with a green card and was considering joining marines. I wanted to be a machine gunner but the recruiter told me his higher ups told him “he’s an alien he gets what is given to him” so they suggested supply chain but unlike most aliens I knew I had better options than this and knew that I would be treated like garbage as an alien in the service. Another thing too a lot of Americans kept telling me to stay away from military, which made me second guess. Hope all went well for you, being an alien in America was a tough and somewhat lonely journey
@@BudgetGainsByJJ I qualified for nuclear reactor technician in the Navy except I couldn't get a security clearance so I chose medic in the Air Force. I never heard any talk about or know my citizenship status. I wish you had insisted on infantry (which is where machine gunners come from) in the Marines. I did 10 years as enlisted, went to college, got my citizenship, then served 11 years as officer.
Exactly. As an active service member myself, I understand that there are things I need to be on top of. Sound like he relied solely on the word of one person and didn't do what he needed to do to apply for citizenship. He needs to take responsibility for that. Also the DoD needs to do a better job at constantly informing serving non-citizens that they need to do the paperwork!
@@terrellbradshaw3504 It's not so much the DOD, but the command over them that should be looking out for those that are under them, or the unit they are in/those they work with.
@@BornAgainCarnivore right but the DoD should require reporting of this information to make sure commands are being held accountable for ensuring members are aware. We have to account for other crap that isn't even remotely as important as this.
If you don't want them in our country, you shouldn't let them in our military period. Anybody that serves in the military should automatically be a citizen.
This was a paperwork screw up, I was in the military and seen many soldiers get their citizenship, it's a big thing and celebration, if someone screwed up it was whoever did his recruiting paperwork.
@@carltonipoloknowski4736 It's not all about that, bro. Black people are humans too. This is a human thing. Homeless people are mostly white here as well
That's just BS. You don't just "give" citizenship away to people who served as Marines. I was in the Corps, and don't think that should get any special privilege's. He needs to go through the necessary channels to "earn" that citizenship. The only thing he "earned" was the right to be a Marine for life and to wear out sacred emblem for life. He didn't "earn" citizenship. As a Marine, he should know better than wo whine about promises never made in writing, man up, take the proper tests, and become a citizen the proper way.
@@benvaldez1784 Yeah, sure kid. IF you ever wore my uniform you would know we are "Always Faithful" and that means we keep our word and our promises. He was made a promise, via a contract, and it should be kept. Playing call of duty doesn't make you a Marine. I served with way too many people who made citizenship thru blood sweat and a few sent home in boxes to listen to some little kid who in no way speaks for the Corps.
@benvaldez1784 negative. I am also a veteran, and he did indeed earn it. He fought for our country. He didn't get a "privilege", he took an oath and risked his life for this country
@@benvaldez1784 Thats all fine and dandy. But the notion of signing up for the U.S military and even become eligible to serve and NOT gain the citizenship is baffling. THE U.S MARINE CORPS of all branches, let that sink in. What you're basically saying here is that despite getting your legs blown off in some shithole in the middle east decorated with awards , you come back home in all the glory but you don't get the citizenship? That's absolutely retarded. And one more thing AS A MARINE MYSELF , GO FUCK YOURSELF. OORAH
I served with SEVERAL individuals over my time in the Army that had this exact experience. They are promised citizenship, serve honorably, serve in combat, and are abandoned. THANK YOU for giving these people a voice!!!
I was in the service for a long time and I never heard of citizenship being promised. I did hear about citizenship being prioritized and expedited. The servicemember had to apply for citizenship at some point. It is not "automatically" given. In other words, there is no INS fairy just magically showing up out of the mist with your citizenship certificate when you are discharged.
@thegoodsathome as an American Citizen (Born in Texas) whose Parents were Illegal. (Parents Divorced) Mother became Naturalized Citizen before i got into junior high and i Myself joined U.S.M.C. at age 17 Mother signed Approval went off to boot camp at age 18 (Dec 1983 - Dec 1987) 'Hollywood' Marine. I too agree as a Fellow Marine this Man Earned his Citizenship, through service.
@@poollife777 ..... have you ever considered taking some of your own advice! But thanks for stepping up and pointing out Your Asshole in the room!!👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@jaguarwarrior866 Hollywoods' Unite. You are exactly on point. and for the record... Why the hell did those stinkin Islanders get mops AND laundry service? No submarine races or cement & brush teams? Pfffft.
You can't give citizenship to a citizen. If either of your parents is a U.S. citizen then you are automatically a natural born U.S. citizen so says the constitution. Both of his parents are citizens rendering him a natural born citizen at birth. The State of Tennessee has effectively stripped him of his citizenship and arbitrarily so because they don't have a clear understanding of the constitution.
Lol the US gov recently send an additional $400+ million aid to Gaza, including millions to rebuild that Gaza pier, aid to the enemy, the people who celebrate 9/11 in the streets, dance, cheer, honking throughout Gaza and handing out free food and cake like its a national holiday, all this massive foreign aid overseas and people over here suffering, like 60% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck, some states the minimum wage is still $7.25. It’s hysterical 😆
@@DanielRojas-nw3mv I'm a veteran. Born here and they screwed me over as well. Your response wouldn't ever matter to me because I have an extreme disdain for government as a whole. If they can pander to Israel then they can give this man what he is owed. This country is his home just as much as it is mine. I could care less about the federal protocol surrounding it.
@DucknCoverin Einstein he probably came in with a work visa you still get a social security but is just to work not to become a green card holder or USA citizen
When I joined the Air Force long ago, the recruiter told me I would have nice housing, a nice office, great food, swimming pools, golf courses, bowling alleys and tennis courts on base to enjoy. I'm still waiting for my tennis court.
You got the other stuff!? Boy did I join the wrong service. Though really this is base dependent. Usually a large base in the States is going to have a number of nice amenities. A Smaller base, not so much. A FOB in a warzone? Just be happy that you probably won't get shot at.
There is a 77 year old man in Tennesse having this same problem. He was born in Canada on a military base. He has his social security number and has had his drivers license his entire life..drove a commercial truck for a living. It's that new Real ID law causing this problem.
Not really the same thing. That guy was born to a mother and father that were US citizens which means he is a citizen. That whole issue is just Tennessee being pants on head retarded.
@@darkstorminc Only have to have 1 parent who is US citizen to get it. That why whole thing with people saying Obama was not born in USA did not matter because his mother was a USA citizen
So this gentleman served in the military, was paid by the US Department of Treasury, taxed by the IRS, can get full medical benefits from the Veterans Administration but can’t get a drivers license or a US Citizenship? Makes perfect sense.
The immigration process in America is horrific. I’ve experienced years of it. They treat people very badly and put you through years of ridiculous hoops
I had a Marine recruiter come to my house after I graduated High School, I knew he was completly blowing smoke and thanked him for his service and showed him the door....
While the recruiter brought him in on a false promise, he did fight for our country and should receive what was promised. The DOD needs to help in this situation.
@@andrewcruz3837 the way you guys talk the border must drive you absolutely NUTS I'd much rather have this guy then any of the 10,000,000 of the ones who just crossed
Hmmm! Both are pretty freaking bad! Looking at the current administration, becoming an American citizen would be the bigger insult. Although calling him a soldier does warrant an a** kicking. lol
@@KailyKail Serving in the military can be a fast track towards citizenship in certain instances, but you don’t just get citizenship for enlisting, especially not as early as basic training. There’s still an application process. I have personally served with many non-citizens, some of whom did not speak English. Most were Latinos, one Brazilian, one Mongol, a few Slavs.
Yeah we should just flood this country with more people because they served the military industrial complex but whatever at least he's Australian could be worse
During Roman times serving in the military was a sure path to citizenship. Mr Canton served our country, he has earned the right to become an American citizen. Please give it to him.
@@weltschmerz333during Roman times they drank wine and ate bread. What’s your point? It’s dumb to compare a dude trying to get citizenship to slavery. WTH. There are decent values and virtues we can take from the past, duh.
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
In 1978 I joined the Air Force and they gave everyone in Basic a questionnaire about the recruiter they had. Whether they were straight about everything. I think this guy deserves thanks and citizenship.
@@MafaeJamie Well if he had a Social Security card and voted, then someone else must have read something and decided he was a citizen. Because you can't get those unless you are one. Supposedly.
@@JoseGonzalez-ps6vy must complete his service or get honorable discharge , but must be given citizenship at some point. It makes zero sense to have non citizens in our military swearing oaths to our country to defend our Constitution and saluting our flag ect. The contract should include the service under honorable circumstances in exchange for citizenship.
He is a fool. Usa&europe HAAATE hard working immig or highly productive immig Should had come in illegaly. Play victim. Live on welfare in blue states. Study in some cool college paid by governement or associations ngos. or work at wal mart mcdonald. Then get citizenship 😂 I have a friend from france. He was a dentist. He wanted to live in usa. You would think usa should prioritize people like dentist to come to the country They give him a hard stressful time to get visas, visa extension, permanant resident status He had to use expensive immigration lawyer. Argue in immigration office. And litteraly write 8 pages essays on why he should be granted to come to usa 😂😂 Sometimes he joke. He should of had just cross texas border. Play victim. Claim assylum. Then go live in california or new york. And exploit the welfare system from both governement and associations 😆
In Basic Training in 1984 I met two NCOs that were from a Caribbean country. They had enlisted to earn their citizenship. I don't get how this man could have been rooked like this.
The Army promised me they would pay off my prior college debt as part of my enlistment. That was in 2007, I spent 12 years trying to get them to pay it, and they never paid it, I'm still paying it!
I, like all other enlistees, was promised education on the GI Bill. And for two years after serving and trying to get the tuition I was promised, having to hear the VA rep reciting the long laundry lists of reasons of how the classes I was taking weren't authorized and why the VA wouldn't pay.
@@billquakenbush1692 You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. There are foreigners in all branches of the US Armed Forces. I served with an Haitian immigrant when I was stationed at Camp Lejeune. He should have never been lied to by dishonest Marine recruiters.
Idk, I can't speak Navajo, but I know they won the Pacific war. Without them, the Imperial Japanese Intel would have cracked any code we threw at them.
Even amongst active duty members and veterans, recruiters are considered scumbags for lying and inappropriate behavior with the recruits prior to enlistment. It's not often talked about, but there are quite a few predators in our recruiting departments.
Just a week ago a Marine Recruiter in California broke into two homes, and in the 2nd one, he stabbed an 11 year old girl in her sleep. Thankfully the homeowner was able to hold him at gunpoint and the girl is recovering, but it was insane to hear about.
@El_PetoYou do realize that Infantry NCOs make up a huge percentage of the recruiting force, and that they were forced to serve as recruiters the great majority of the time. Happened to me (an Airborne Infantryman with stellar and tough assignments, and deployments). I got orders one day that told me I was reporting to recruiting school. No way to get out of it. Did three years in hell, in the most abusive command the Army has. USAREC is an unchecked and abusive crap show. Looking at you CSM Blount (Irkle).
The man would have been treated better if he snuck across the border. Seems the governor of Florida could write some sort of pardon for his sin and get him a lousy drivers license. I mean would it be just horribly detrimental to the state of Florida and its citizens to issue this guy a drivers license?
He should have applied for citizenship while he was in the Corps. Now he needs to reach out to his senator and congressman along with the legal team he has. Best of luck. Semper Fi!!!
Or... He enlisted and served our country with a sworn oath to protect the US and earned the right to become a citizen. French foreign legion anyone? And we screwed him. As a veteran who took a bullet in combat. I say he served his time. The Corps shoulda done it for him. Cut the red tape. I gladly accept him as a citizen of my country.
His accent has literally became Americanized, you can hear the slight NZ or Australian twinge in there, but he generally sounds like your average american. Give this man his citizenship.
As an Aussie it sounds funny it’s like 90% Yank with a very very faint kiwi and Aussie accent. Hopefully he gets something worked out. If I was the leader of Australia I would be funding him to return back home and make sure he lives the rest of his days here with carefree ease. But even our government is a mess
I’ve worked with people illegally in the country that had drivers licenses. What an embarrassment we have become. Today we are letting non Americans flood the country and giving them allowances yet we can’t give someone that served honorably his citizenship.
Unless you are indigenous, then everyone came here as immigrants. What you call "non Americans flooding the country". This person's predicament has nothing to do with your opinions on civilian immigration.
oh really? what if he served and deserted? what if he served and got kicked out for antisocial behavior? how about we make it conditional instead of automatic?
@@mar25947 so by that definition, it can only be filed for AFTER discharge. So that's when he was supposed to apply and didn't. There's nothing automatic about becoming a citizen, it is and should be an action required upon the hopeful citizen, same way you actually put some effort into becoming a Marine. It's funny to me, though, that he never bothered applying, but also wasn't bothered that he never stood in front of an official, was never quizzed on civics, swore an oath, or received a naturalization certificate. It's almost like he literally decided secret ninjas will do all that for him and never even let him know 🤦♂️ pretty sure he was a substandard Marine, then. What he shows as awards are automatic time in grade promotion and a 2 hour correspondence course. I have a total of 10 certificates of commendation, letters of appreciation, and certificates of appreciation, along with a Distinguished Service Medal, in 4 years, and got my citizenship during the same time, and was sworn in on the deck of an aircraft carrier by California lieutenant governor. It took some research, but blaming a recruiter for some false promises is bs. The guard for your building can let you in to work, tell you where offices are, what benefits the company has but 1: he's not CEO, 2: he doesn't get to make any promises unless they're in writing, and 3: whatever they tell you is to help you navigate once you're in, but what you want to do and how to do it is strictly your job
What if he served and got killed? Does his corpse get citizenship? This is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard in my life! Tricking foreign people to fight wars we ourselves have no business being in... Ugh! I don't like America when RETARDICANS are in office!
@ClarkShumway ---> Wow ---- with that logic you must be a guvment paper pusher. Joining and serving Honorably in a Branch of the U.S. military SHOULD give automatic U.S. citizenship. Spineless/gutless born in America boys that have never served a single day are considered "citizens" simply because their mother hatched them somewhere in the U.S.A.. The man in the video enlisted in the hardest Branch of the U.S. military and served honorably. {Sad that your post got any "Thumbs Ups" at all.}
Spot on. The military doesn't guarantee citizenship, it can only facilitate. Still today, new soldiers who are legal I-551 card holders, and have applied properly for citizenship, get a fast track to citizenship. A coworker just transferred from his position as a senior drill sergeant at FT Leonard Wood. He told me that they will go above and beyond to get trainees a citizenship ceremony at graduation time, but the paperwork needs to be completely in order, and most of that lies with the individual.
@@Driftless-Ramblings according to the recruiters, the paperwork is done by them. thats the problem, people are directly told that they just have to serve and that they process will be done for them. i have seen it first hand.
My father was told the same thing during Vietnam. He had to take the citizenship test to get his citizenship. And he only did it because my mom didn’t trust the process. She wanted us kids to have 2 American parents.
I hear that. Being a Soldier is completely different. Being a Soldier requires intelligence and being house broken. Being a Marine just requires the individual not give Sailors a wool rash like Sheep used to when at sea for long periods. And the ability to stop a bullet . So you damn right Marines aren't Soldiers. However they do seem to be popular with Sailors !
The Sheep were easier to clean up after but Marines are said to be much more obedient and not near as rough on a Sailors private parts as a wool covered Sheep was according to the Department of the Navy.
It is honored. Dude never applied for citizenship. It's not automatic. You have to apply. Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 328, a U.S. military service member may be eligible for citizenship after serving honorably for at least one year during peacetime. The veteran has to apply within six months of discharge.
Under honorable discharge and. Under general discharge depending on circumstances. Just because someone joins and serves but then gets a dishonorable discharge for something serious should not have citizenship.
That's part of recruitment...I learned all about it but dealt with my decision because I allowed it to happen. It's normal to be promised all kinds of opportunities that you may never really get but you will still get educated and trained in some ways as well as paid.
This makes no sense. He served 4 years as a Marine, was issued a Social Security number, Driver's License, got married and had kids. Of course he believed he was granted citizenship! The Marine Corps needs to fix this.
Thirty years👉30 years living as a US citizen👉did he not try renewing his drivers license before now? Or did he do thirty years & now four years out he’s trying to renew his drivers license? WHY NOW is he making a fuss??? Even so, give him citizenship
marine corps are fknuts in their leadership.. they get upset when marines retire before age 50 and refuse to reenlist and literally retaliate against those veterans with situations like this or denied benifits... so glad I chose army.. they dont care if you leave as long as you serve for how long you promised..
@jackdaniels5134yes it is fuck face. That’s exactly how its worked since the foundation of this country with the formation of the first continental army to fight the British. Learn some shit before u starting talking like at unAmerican traitor.
He earned his citizenship. He just never went to immigration to apply for his citizenship status. I have a buddy in the Army from S. America that served for 15 years. He still had to go through the immigration process. Now he is a naturalized American. I wonder if he was told at some point he had to do it on his own and blew if off. It has happened in the past.
Uncle Sam never does anything automatically. You have to do the paperwork and fees until you get that paper that states you are officially a USA citizens. Don't assume because you just make an ass of yourself.
Almost certainly, he actually is a citizen. He does not meet the requirements for Real ID because he does not have a US-issued birth certificate or passport. It is really a document probably.
@MrTsiolkovsky but they don't serve in an army. They serve in a Marine Corps. Even if you mean as an "Army" echelon of a formation that's still not necessary true.
This man is an American citizen if he paid taxes, served in the armed forces, and cast a ballot! At least he should be granted citizenship if he served with honor. Another example is when we lie to and treat our veterans disrespectfully. This is quite dishonorable!
EVERYONE pays taxes... citizen or not ... LEGAL foreigners can serve in the Armed Forces ... He was voting illegally since he was not a citizen .... these are FACTS that get in the way of an emotional reaction... HOWEVER... he sure IS entitled to citizenship in my book... he just forgot to apply and assumed (ask a Marine what happens when you assume) it would be taken care of and never followed up to find out.
Bro never thought to check if he was a US citizen before voting... that's super bad because that's a serious reportable offense. Super hard to overcome that.
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
Seriously? I'm a Marine Veteran. The only thing that makes me sick to my stomach is that this Marine expects something that wasn't written in his contract or US Law. He should have known better. He did no independent research to verify the promise or how one becomes a US citizen. He can still be a citizen. He needs to quit his whining and jump through the proper hoops to become a citizen.
He served honorably for America. He is due citizenship. There’s too many people who contribute nothing that are given citizenship. This man contributed.
@@diegojines-us9pc BS, the man served. We (America) give citizenship to all sorts of folks that haven't given a doggone thing back to the US; give the man his citizenship that he has earned. Now that is an issue that our government need to address ASAP.
@@diegojines-us9pc he was told by the recruiter that all he had to do was serve and that the recruiter would do everything else, so he did what he was told to do and the recruiter didnt. simple.
I agree completely. They are making it more of a thing then it is. The guy is eligible for citizenship but he needs to first apply for permanent residency. He probably he had a bank account all this time anyway.
Lol, right!?! I never received any bonuses, just constant abuse and threats from lesser leaders, who were hiding from the real Army. Worst 3 years of my life!
@@Driftless-Ramblings Recruiting was indeed the worst time of my life. I have so many stories to tell. It sucked fecal matter straight from the devil's rectal cavity.
i am a naturalized citizen i was told the same thing but i grew up listening and asking questions the Truth is you do become a citizen the untold is the process. So i asked questions my recruiter looked up the answers could not find it i call INS and they told me the process and broke it down i didnt have to wait 6 years i can start the process around year 4 and my self and a fellow Marine did right before we went to Japan and Iraq. I became a citizen months after enlistment ended. The government didnt screw him he did not do his proper research which is understanable for his time
Almost all Americans who have not served in the military incorrectly refer to all military personnel as 'soldiers'. It's kinda like the widespread misuse of the term 'Native American'.
Recruiters DO NOT get a bonus for people they put it. Also this is a failure on his unit. I had this happen to a guy I was hiring for a federal job. It literally took him a year to get his citizenship.
And there's thousands more like him, when they don't want to give you your pension or your medical or whatnot they deport you, and unfortunately sometimes even worse
I also enlisted in the 90's in the US Marines when I was 18 after Highschool, as a US Resident/Green Card holder. When the time came (Two years after I enlisted and 6 years after I became a Resident with a Green Card), I when to INS and applied for Citizenship, they waived all the cost of the paperwork because I was in the Military and couple of weeks later I was sworn in as a US Citizen. It is not automatic, but it is not difficult either. I think this man drop the ball on himself as well. I am pretty confident that eventually they will give him his US Citizenship.
If you managed to avoid poon as a marine, you sir are the most unattractive male alive. I'm sorry but I have alot of experience and spent time around too many who**s and run into too many that say some stuff like "MILITARY MEN TO THE FRONT!!" so you genuinely failed.
If he honorably served, he deserves citizenship. Yet another instance when our veterans are lied to and disrespected. This is shameful!
lied to by other veterans
He should've never been allowed to serve in our military!
They do it to hispanics all the time yet because they are not white like this guy no one cares
@@billquakenbush1692 Wrong. Lots of people came to our country through the military. One of our Olympic 5k/10k runners, Paul Chelimo, migrated here from Kenya. When they realized they had an elite Kenyan runner in basic, they sent him straight to Army track team. I served with several people who came here like that. They deserve citizenship more than most Americans.
Not to worry Joe has a plan to solve this problem... THREADS
I am a US Army veteran. I served for 17 years of active duty. We were all lied to by a recruiter. Not going into much detail, the same thing happened to a friend of mine from El Salvador. He was born in Salvador but came here as a baby. He served with me in the 82nd Airborne, saw combat, and got injured. He was promised citizenship but never got it. The last time I heard from him, he went to a country that he didn’t know, El Salvador.
The new President in El Salvador is working to clean up the country
Womp womp
@@josephmontezuma5089 shut up
This is exactly why they lie in the first place. To prevent the black and browns in.
BS. I'm an Army vet. Served with many born overseas and got their citizenship via US military service. You're story is horsesht.
I served 4 years, USMC, 2005-2009, honorably discharged. In my opinion, talking to a recruiter is exactly like talking to a car salesman
I was a Marine recruiter 84-87. Used car salesman! Nope. Matter of fact I directed a few folks out of my office when they couldn't tell me that they wanted to be a Marine (vice a computer tech, aviation type, or other technical jobs). Matter of fact I had one kid tell me that he wanted to be an electrician. I slid a pen and a piece of paper to him and said "spell it" and he couldn't. Out the door! Semper Fi brother. USMC Ret.
@@CormacNJ
😂
"I wanna be in a technical job!"
Can't even spell it. What kind of world are we living in 🤣
Used car salesmen are more honest.
@@Delimon007 Even worse, I taught HS for 14 years post Marine Corps. Had a senior state that she wanted to be an anesthesiologist. Again I asked her to spell it. She couldn't. I told her that I might not know how to spell it but I didn't want to be an anesthesiologist. Told her that if that was her dream, learn as much as you can about the duties and learn to spell it.
Perfect analogy 😂. 1 of my subordinates in the AF got 24% 😮 interest from 1 of those predatory car salesmen near his tech school
He was willing to give his life for a country that isn't willing to give him a drivers license 🤦♂️
At least he voted in elections not being a citizen
@justinhalethesenuts7769
He didn't file the paperwork to become a US citizen.
@@tflg3257he did multiple times since he was told he wasn’t US citizen and they were denied cause he didn’t serve “at the right time “ to be entitled. Nice try tho
@@dotta4763 Why didn't he obtain citizenship through his wife or even his children. There are many pathways.
@@dotta4763 You're focused on military service granting US Citizen. If he's part of a special interest scheme then he deserves his predicament.
If this man served in the U.S. military, paid taxes and voted, then he's an American citizen! Give him citizenship!
There is no recruiting bonus in the Army. Would you all feel the same if he was Mexican, from Africa or the Middle East?
@@jackbejumpin Yes, I would!
@@j.l.a.delagarza6994 Even if you hold a green card you still have to pay taxes if you are employed in the US.
Just cross illegally, then you can get all kinds of free stuff
@@SpaceRanger187 right? You have thousands of illegal immigrants drawing benefits when people like this man are left out in the cold and country less. I’m not against immigration in the slightest, our country regardless of what anyone says was built on and by immigrants. I’m just saying it should be done properly. Think of it this way. Would you let someone in your home without at least knowing a little about who they are? Share meals with someone and allow them free reign of your own home? You’re a liar or a complete fool if you say yes. Some of my best coworkers and friends have been newcomers. But there’s is absolutely nothing wrong with forcing immigrants to go through proper vetting processes. It only wrong to hate an entire people over fear.
" Never Trust A Recruiter "
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
Never trust the govmt
Amen, there’s a reason some people jokingly call them used car salesmen 😅
I remember when my brother was enlisted into the army, his recruiter had promised him he was going to get I think I remember it was like a $5,000 bonus after completing basic training and AIT, and he ended up with something around $1,000 bonus in the end instead. Complete b.s.
I’m not sure why anyone thinks this is, “news.” It’s like saying I got scammed by someone saying they were a Nigerian prince. Yeah? What else is new?
If this man is a Marine with an honorable discharge then he should be given his citizenship. Done. Plain and simple.
Did he get an honorable discharge? Unfortunately, the reporter forgot to ask or she knew the answer and cut it out of the story.
That's right Devil Dog , "Ooh Ra" , Semper Fi
@@traceywashington2818 Got the big green weenie....and now is embracing the suk
😂@@traceywashington2818
He should haven’t gotten it as soon as he graduated Basic.
This is disgusting... I am a former Marine and this is UNACCEPTABLE. Man served his time and gave up his youth to serve our contry and not give him US citizenship? Shame on the recruiter for NOT doing their job and NOT making sure this man gets his citizenship.
@marksmith1597
Did he file the paperwork required. I keep hearing the word automatic in the video clip. But no, it's a paperwork process. Foreign born don't automatically become US citizens without applying for it.
@@tflg3257yet, those in his CoC knew his status. I would say you’re right: the blame doesn’t fall entirely on the recruiter, *however*, his leadership most definitely failed him. His Commander, 1SG, first line, and even retention should have checked in with him, made sure he was tracking what the situation was, and educated him or at least gave him the resources and POCs he needed to square him away. It really isn’t any wonder why we’re struggling to keep people and struggling to recruit people into our military nowadays.
Just another example of how shitty our country treats our veterans
you still have to apply. thats his own mistake
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
@@poollife777 as A 20 year Veteran, yeah they pretty much do treat us the same
This is an exception, seen many soldiers get their citizenship in the military.
@@Master.Daddy.Wicked No, it just goes to show how how ill informed the two of you are about the immigration and citizenship process.
As a former drill sergeant, I can tell you that recruiters will say just about anything to get someone to join. "But my recruiter told me..." was a very common phrase.
yup... saw a girl crying in AIT because the recruiter told her one thing and she signed something different apparently.... got her witht he old bait and switch... cant trust noone....
My recruiter told me Drill Sargents will say that.
@@mattr272
Blaming the recruiter is so easy.
@@forreal8014 the Meps commander is the real culprit lol..
I enlisted in the US military as a Resident Alien. I was fully aware that if I wanted my citizenship I would need to apply for it. Eventually I filed the application and became a Naturalized American citizen. I was not lied to, abandoned and looked at the laws and process myself.
The INS should do the honorable thing and expedite citizenship for vets like this.
It’s interesting being a resident alien. I was too, I was Australian with a green card and was considering joining marines. I wanted to be a machine gunner but the recruiter told me his higher ups told him “he’s an alien he gets what is given to him” so they suggested supply chain but unlike most aliens I knew I had better options than this and knew that I would be treated like garbage as an alien in the service. Another thing too a lot of Americans kept telling me to stay away from military, which made me second guess.
Hope all went well for you, being an alien in America was a tough and somewhat lonely journey
@@BudgetGainsByJJ I qualified for nuclear reactor technician in the Navy except I couldn't get a security clearance so I chose medic in the Air Force.
I never heard any talk about or know my citizenship status.
I wish you had insisted on infantry (which is where machine gunners come from) in the Marines.
I did 10 years as enlisted, went to college, got my citizenship, then served 11 years as officer.
Exactly. As an active service member myself, I understand that there are things I need to be on top of. Sound like he relied solely on the word of one person and didn't do what he needed to do to apply for citizenship. He needs to take responsibility for that. Also the DoD needs to do a better job at constantly informing serving non-citizens that they need to do the paperwork!
@@terrellbradshaw3504 It's not so much the DOD, but the command over them that should be looking out for those that are under them, or the unit they are in/those they work with.
@@BornAgainCarnivore right but the DoD should require reporting of this information to make sure commands are being held accountable for ensuring members are aware. We have to account for other crap that isn't even remotely as important as this.
This is offensive. We can’t give citizenship to EVERY veteran with honorable discharge? Unacceptable
You’re country is offensive, lying seems to be a common practice, from politicians, news outlets , cops , military
If you don't want them in our country, you shouldn't let them in our military period. Anybody that serves in the military should automatically be a citizen.
should be but instead they get them for free labor & then deport people. He didn't get deported , so he's one of the "lucky" ones.
So, how many months of military service does it take to be a US Veteran? I was born in the USA and served 20 years, honorably discharged.
This was a paperwork screw up, I was in the military and seen many soldiers get their citizenship, it's a big thing and celebration, if someone screwed up it was whoever did his recruiting paperwork.
@@SandCrabNews 6 months or 180 days
Recruit your own citizens or have a smaller military!
Damn.. This makes me mad... Give him his US citizenship!
For real...
Holy sheit its detroit ninja!!! 🥷
LFG! ESKETITTTT🤙
For crying out loud, give his US citizenship
Wow. Gov Ron can't help a vet out?
@@badlt5897 and Gov Ron is a Navy JAG officer.
Meanwhile illegal Cubans get their green card in less than 3 years...👀
This person is denied citizenship yet million of criminals are free to do whatever they like…
Hey has to apply still
Ok you gotta separate Immigrants from Citizens first. Criminals aren’t free to do whatever they like either or prisons wouldn’t be filled.
They’ve been doing this for decades
Yes they sure have been obtaining state id’s and not going through the citizenship process.
Centuries actually
Yeah what a shocker Goldberg wants more and more and more people in here
I'm one of the.
Exactly
THIRTY YEARS?! This man is a legal US citizen at this point! How do we treat our veterans so poorly?!
Now he see how the poor bLack man feels
@@carltonipoloknowski4736 It's not all about that, bro. Black people are humans too. This is a human thing. Homeless people are mostly white here as well
The US government moto, "Use em and lose em."
What are you even on about?
@@carltonipoloknowski4736What are you talking about?
This man is a United States Marine. Give him his damn citizenship!!!
That's just BS. You don't just "give" citizenship away to people who served as Marines. I was in the Corps, and don't think that should get any special privilege's. He needs to go through the necessary channels to "earn" that citizenship. The only thing he "earned" was the right to be a Marine for life and to wear out sacred emblem for life. He didn't "earn" citizenship. As a Marine, he should know better than wo whine about promises never made in writing, man up, take the proper tests, and become a citizen the proper way.
@@benvaldez1784 Yeah, sure kid. IF you ever wore my uniform you would know we are "Always Faithful" and that means we keep our word and our promises. He was made a promise, via a contract, and it should be kept. Playing call of duty doesn't make you a Marine. I served with way too many people who made citizenship thru blood sweat and a few sent home in boxes to listen to some little kid who in no way speaks for the Corps.
@@benvaldez1784 BULLSHIT, YOU SERVE YOUR COUNTRY, SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC. THIS IS BULLSHIT AND YES, I AM A COMBAT VETERAN.
@benvaldez1784 negative. I am also a veteran, and he did indeed earn it. He fought for our country. He didn't get a "privilege", he took an oath and risked his life for this country
@@benvaldez1784 Thats all fine and dandy. But the notion of signing up for the U.S military and even become eligible to serve and NOT gain the citizenship is baffling. THE U.S MARINE CORPS of all branches, let that sink in. What you're basically saying here is that despite getting your legs blown off in some shithole in the middle east decorated with awards , you come back home in all the glory but you don't get the citizenship? That's absolutely retarded. And one more thing AS A MARINE MYSELF , GO FUCK YOURSELF. OORAH
I served with SEVERAL individuals over my time in the Army that had this exact experience. They are promised citizenship, serve honorably, serve in combat, and are abandoned. THANK YOU for giving these people a voice!!!
I was in the service for a long time and I never heard of citizenship being promised. I did hear about citizenship being prioritized and expedited. The servicemember had to apply for citizenship at some point. It is not "automatically" given. In other words, there is no INS fairy just magically showing up out of the mist with your citizenship certificate when you are discharged.
@@JoseGonzalez-ps6vy Thank you! Exactly! It requires action on the servicemember's part. It doesn't just automatically happen.
They werent abandoned. They were still supposed to apply. But, ever since Sonnie changed the rule of citizenship, they can't anymore.
As a fellow Marine, I am disgusted by this!!!
He deserves this more than some Americans I know.
@thegoodsathome as an American Citizen (Born in Texas) whose Parents were Illegal. (Parents Divorced) Mother became Naturalized Citizen before i got into junior high and i Myself joined U.S.M.C. at age 17 Mother signed Approval went off to boot camp at age 18 (Dec 1983 - Dec 1987) 'Hollywood' Marine. I too agree as a Fellow Marine this Man Earned his Citizenship, through service.
He's a mercenary
@@poollife777 ..... have you ever considered taking some of your own advice!
But thanks for stepping up and pointing out Your Asshole in the room!!👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@deidresable And you're a freeloader. What's your point exactly? Freedom isn't free and you sure as hell didn't add to the bill.
@@jaguarwarrior866 Hollywoods' Unite. You are exactly on point. and for the record... Why the hell did those stinkin Islanders get mops AND laundry service? No submarine races or cement & brush teams? Pfffft.
Give him the citizenship... He is more American than normal citizens. 🇺🇸
Nope
@saulspanco854 What's wrong, Precious?
Yep.@@saulspanco854
You can't give citizenship to a citizen. If either of your parents is a U.S. citizen then you are automatically a natural born U.S. citizen so says the constitution. Both of his parents are citizens rendering him a natural born citizen at birth. The State of Tennessee has effectively stripped him of his citizenship and arbitrarily so because they don't have a clear understanding of the constitution.
@@saulspanco854you don’t know the first thing about being a true American
They can send all our money overseas but can't help our veterans.
Lol the US gov recently send an additional $400+ million aid to Gaza, including millions to rebuild that Gaza pier, aid to the enemy, the people who celebrate 9/11 in the streets, dance, cheer, honking throughout Gaza and handing out free food and cake like its a national holiday, all this massive foreign aid overseas and people over here suffering, like 60% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck, some states the minimum wage is still $7.25. It’s hysterical 😆
He never filled the paper work with Department of immigration in order to become a legal resident and then USA 🇺🇸 citizen 🧐
@@DanielRojas-nw3mv I'm a veteran. Born here and they screwed me over as well. Your response wouldn't ever matter to me because I have an extreme disdain for government as a whole. If they can pander to Israel then they can give this man what he is owed. This country is his home just as much as it is mine. I could care less about the federal protocol surrounding it.
Nonsense. They keep our money here helping all the illegal aliens. They just spend the money on whatever they want. After all, it's not there money.
@DucknCoverin Einstein he probably came in with a work visa you still get a social security but is just to work not to become a green card holder or USA citizen
When I joined the Air Force long ago, the recruiter told me I would have nice housing, a nice office, great food, swimming pools, golf courses, bowling alleys and tennis courts on base to enjoy. I'm still waiting for my tennis court.
My Marine recruiter promised me a chance at combat. 😅 summbitch kept his promise and then some.
You got the other stuff!? Boy did I join the wrong service. Though really this is base dependent. Usually a large base in the States is going to have a number of nice amenities. A Smaller base, not so much. A FOB in a warzone? Just be happy that you probably won't get shot at.
😂😂😂😂😂
What base has no tennis court especially Air Force
There is a 77 year old man in Tennesse having this same problem. He was born in Canada on a military base. He has his social security number and has had his drivers license his entire life..drove a commercial truck for a living. It's that new Real ID law causing this problem.
Not really the same thing. That guy was born to a mother and father that were US citizens which means he is a citizen. That whole issue is just Tennessee being pants on head retarded.
In that story both his parents were US citizens so he should hold dual citizenship
@@darkstorminc You'd think...but yet he's not considered a US citizen based on the Real ID laws...
@@darkstorminc Only have to have 1 parent who is US citizen to get it. That why whole thing with people saying Obama was not born in USA did not matter because his mother was a USA citizen
Papers, please.
So this gentleman served in the military, was paid by the US Department of Treasury, taxed by the IRS, can get full medical benefits from the Veterans Administration but can’t get a drivers license or a US Citizenship? Makes perfect sense.
He also married, lived there for decades and got kids. This should be cleared immediately.
Very dumb, yeah
The immigration process in America is horrific. I’ve experienced years of it. They treat people very badly and put you through years of ridiculous hoops
I had a Marine recruiter come to my house after I graduated High School, I knew he was completly blowing smoke and thanked him for his service and showed him the door....
While the recruiter brought him in on a false promise, he did fight for our country and should receive what was promised. The DOD needs to help in this situation.
He didn’t fight for 💩
@@andrewcruz3837 But he still served, A-hole. I'm sure you never had but the first one to say something negative.
@andrewcruz3837 you couldn't, even if you were half the man he is... spineless twat waffle
@@andrewcruz3837 you're a loser
@@andrewcruz3837 the way you guys talk
the border must drive you absolutely NUTS
I'd much rather have this guy then any of the 10,000,000 of the ones who just crossed
IDK what is the bigger insult, not giving this man citizenship or calling him a soldier after saying he joined the Marine Corps.
lol!
Semper Fi 🇺🇸
Hmmm! Both are pretty freaking bad! Looking at the current administration, becoming an American citizen would be the bigger insult. Although calling him a soldier does warrant an a** kicking. lol
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
Well I am a veteran airman that fought ..and killed ..I am a fucking soldier....screw your marine bullshit!
I didn’t even know you could be in the military and not be a citizen.
If someone has permanent resident (green card) they can enlist. Once in they can apply for US Citizenship. It is not automatic.
There was a Russian dude in my boot camp in 1999
You can’t. They naturalize you in boot camp.
@@KailyKail Serving in the military can be a fast track towards citizenship in certain instances, but you don’t just get citizenship for enlisting, especially not as early as basic training. There’s still an application process.
I have personally served with many non-citizens, some of whom did not speak English. Most were Latinos, one Brazilian, one Mongol, a few Slavs.
@@richard1493 yep it's a process
As an American USNavy Vet, I’m ashamed we are doing this. Immigration is clearly broken, and this needs to be fixed immediately.
Give this Marine his citizenship !
I was born here, served in the U.S. Army, and I agree he is an American by heart !
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
i had no idea you could be in the military but not be american. wtf.
I served in the Navy and INS fuck with my citizenship for 10 years after I was honable discharged from the Navy
how many american army movies do I need to watch to be a citizen "by heart"?
Yeah we should just flood this country with more people because they served the military industrial complex but whatever at least he's Australian could be worse
A recruiter lied? Nahhhhhhhh!
😂 no s*it.
Me too.
He was recruited during hostilities so technically they didn’t.. it just didn’t work out right
Him too! Say it's not so!
I never lied when I was a recruiter, I did however paint word pictures that others misinterpreted.
During Roman times serving in the military was a sure path to citizenship. Mr Canton served our country, he has earned the right to become an American citizen. Please give it to him.
"During Roman times" they had slaves and forced some of them to fight to the death...not the best comparison
@@weltschmerz333during Roman times they drank wine and ate bread. What’s your point?
It’s dumb to compare a dude trying to get citizenship to slavery. WTH. There are decent values and virtues we can take from the past, duh.
And that's what destroyed the roman empire
@@MidnightMoses-ow1ul true, and open borders 😂
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
In 1978 I joined the Air Force and they gave everyone in Basic a questionnaire about the recruiter they had. Whether they were straight about everything. I think this guy deserves thanks and citizenship.
Served, paid taxes, voted..Give this guy his citizenship!
You do realize that you're being tricked into accepting illegal aliens into our military, right?
you didn't read the paper buddy
@@MafaeJamie Well if he had a Social Security card and voted, then someone else must have read something and decided he was a citizen. Because you can't get those unless you are one. Supposedly.
@@robertlawrence9000Trump is gonna fix this!
Damn right!!!
As a veteran of foreign war, give this man his damn green card. He served with us, he's one of us.
This is why new generation don't want to apply into the military anymore.
? Wtf are you talking about? New Generation = new us citizens
They don't volunteer they'll get drafted
When someone asks me . I tell them , The recruiter will tell lies
Not just because that but degenerates allowed to serve and reg normal folk don’t wanna get corrupted
No that’s because they are being brainwashed from 6 in schools!
That's not the reason at all.
thats disgusting. if all this is correct this mans citizenship should be honored immediately.
If he serves the U.S. military he earned the U.S. citizenship. It should be a guarantee.
Even with a dishonorable discharge?
@@JoseGonzalez-ps6vy must complete his service or get honorable discharge , but must be given citizenship at some point. It makes zero sense to have non citizens in our military swearing oaths to our country to defend our Constitution and saluting our flag ect. The contract should include the service under honorable circumstances in exchange for citizenship.
No it was peace time, easy service. If he fought with us in Iraq and Afghanistan and applied then maybe lol
I agree give the man citizenship
He is a fool. Usa&europe HAAATE hard working immig or highly productive immig
Should had come in illegaly. Play victim. Live on welfare in blue states. Study in some cool college paid by governement or associations ngos. or work at wal mart mcdonald. Then get citizenship 😂
I have a friend from france. He was a dentist. He wanted to live in usa. You would think usa should prioritize people like dentist to come to the country
They give him a hard stressful time to get visas, visa extension, permanant resident status
He had to use expensive immigration lawyer. Argue in immigration office. And litteraly write 8 pages essays on why he should be granted to come to usa 😂😂
Sometimes he joke. He should of had just cross texas border. Play victim. Claim assylum. Then go live in california or new york. And exploit the welfare system from both governement and associations 😆
Government should be ashamed of itself.
yes dont allow non citizens in to our military
A legionnaire can get French citizenship after three years of serving in the French Foreign Legion.
The key word used was CAN. Joining the Legion is NOT guaranteed as poor performance even with completing their contract results in no citizenship.
He would still need to APPLY by filling out the appropriate paperwork!
And a foreigner in the Russian military gets citizenship after one year of service.
@@The_Black_Knight during times of war joining the American military is a guaranteed naturalization and ceremony after completing boot camp. I
This is not about France... This story is about the US. Keep up.
In Basic Training in 1984 I met two NCOs that were from a Caribbean country. They had enlisted to earn their citizenship. I don't get how this man could have been rooked like this.
The Army promised me they would pay off my prior college debt as part of my enlistment. That was in 2007, I spent 12 years trying to get them to pay it, and they never paid it, I'm still paying it!
I, like all other enlistees, was promised education on the GI Bill. And for two years after serving and trying to get the tuition I was promised, having to hear the VA rep reciting the long laundry lists of reasons of how the classes I was taking weren't authorized and why the VA wouldn't pay.
Damn that’s crazy both stories
@@Fregulus5damn unbelievable
Do you have any paperwork to prove it?
If you didn't get it in writing, it doesn't exist.
This gentleman is a Marine not a soldier.
He should've never been allowed to be in our military!
@@billquakenbush1692 You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. There are foreigners in all branches of the US Armed Forces. I served with an Haitian immigrant when I was stationed at Camp Lejeune. He should have never been lied to by dishonest Marine recruiters.
@@billquakenbush1692 are you going to post that on every comment?
@@jjpercevalYep this is the second time I saw that exact same comment. At first I thought I had hit the wrong thing.
@@billquakenbush1692 I had to prove I was a US citizen before I could serve. People in our territories can serve also. They aren't US citizens.
"Thanks for risking your life protecting our country. Now f*ck off."
That's basically the message he got in all of this.
Except he wasn’t protecting anything.
@@almontherobaid6492what was he doing then? Let me guess doing the bidding of a evil corrupt politician or oil company
@@nyc_jon it said in the video he went active duty months after the war was over which is why he wasnt given citizenship
@@nuclear_right completely unrelated to what I said
what do U mean; Ur’ statement’s a bit vague??
He is facing what blk men faced 50 years ago serving a country that does not keep its promises.
How about Native American wind talkers
Idk, I can't speak Navajo, but I know they won the Pacific war. Without them, the Imperial Japanese Intel would have cracked any code we threw at them.
No he's not, he didn't file his application whike serving, thats his fault not the military
@jamaicasysbm2580
Black Americans were never foreign natiionals.
@@tflg3257 that’s not the point
Even amongst active duty members and veterans, recruiters are considered scumbags for lying and inappropriate behavior with the recruits prior to enlistment. It's not often talked about, but there are quite a few predators in our recruiting departments.
Recruiters have the second hardest occupation in military next to drill sergeants. It is thankless job that most do not understand.
@@The_Black_Knight
Just a week ago a Marine Recruiter in California broke into two homes, and in the 2nd one, he stabbed an 11 year old girl in her sleep. Thankfully the homeowner was able to hold him at gunpoint and the girl is recovering, but it was insane to hear about.
That's all soldiers m8
@El_PetoYou do realize that Infantry NCOs make up a huge percentage of the recruiting force, and that they were forced to serve as recruiters the great majority of the time. Happened to me (an Airborne Infantryman with stellar and tough assignments, and deployments). I got orders one day that told me I was reporting to recruiting school. No way to get out of it. Did three years in hell, in the most abusive command the Army has. USAREC is an unchecked and abusive crap show. Looking at you CSM Blount (Irkle).
U.S. soldiers serve in the army
U.S. Marines serve in the Marine Corps
Oohrah! Semper Fidelis!
Some college graduate that wrote the script and the editor doesn't know that
Yea some sleepy college student who wakes up at 1pm wrote that
YUT
Glad you picked that up - that was clearly the most important point.
Take note. This is the proper path to legal immigration. Give this man what he’s owed.
Seems like he should've gotten this straight decades ago.
If you think this is proper at all, then you are a bigot
exactly man followed the rules.
thousands already have this story is bs
The man would have been treated better if he snuck across the border. Seems the governor of Florida could write some sort of pardon for his sin and get him a lousy drivers license. I mean would it be just horribly detrimental to the state of Florida and its citizens to issue this guy a drivers license?
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS ‼️🙄 Give that man his citizenship - NOW‼️
He should have applied for citizenship while he was in the Corps. Now he needs to reach out to his senator and congressman along with the legal team he has. Best of luck. Semper Fi!!!
thats the process, and he didnt
@@diegojines-us9pcthe process sucks.
@@colorbugoriginals4457 it may, but its what we got and been around A LONG time,
Sim-plify!
Or... He enlisted and served our country with a sworn oath to protect the US and earned the right to become a citizen. French foreign legion anyone? And we screwed him. As a veteran who took a bullet in combat. I say he served his time. The Corps shoulda done it for him. Cut the red tape. I gladly accept him as a citizen of my country.
His accent has literally became Americanized, you can hear the slight NZ or Australian twinge in there, but he generally sounds like your average american. Give this man his citizenship.
No he doesn't 😂
He sounds foreign. He's the exception. Give him his papers.
English is my second language and I could tell he had an accent. Doesn't matter though, should be a citizen
As an Aussie it sounds funny it’s like 90% Yank with a very very faint kiwi and Aussie accent.
Hopefully he gets something worked out. If I was the leader of Australia I would be funding him to return back home and make sure he lives the rest of his days here with carefree ease. But even our government is a mess
This man has to be the most American, un-American person ever.
deport him
I’ve worked with people illegally in the country that had drivers licenses. What an embarrassment we have become. Today we are letting non Americans flood the country and giving them allowances yet we can’t give someone that served honorably his citizenship.
Yo! Preach it!
How did Mr. Canton enter the country? Why is he in this predicament?
Unless you are indigenous, then everyone came here as immigrants. What you call "non Americans flooding the country". This person's predicament has nothing to do with your opinions on civilian immigration.
@@meraj205 I hope that one day your reading comprehension improves enough that you are able to understand a few sentences like the ones I wrote above.
@@Denali_Rebel feel free to explain if I have misunderstood.
If he served it should be automatic citizenship.
oh really? what if he served and deserted? what if he served and got kicked out for antisocial behavior? how about we make it conditional instead of automatic?
@@leok7193 it says it in the video. Citizenship upon honorable discharge.
@@mar25947 so by that definition, it can only be filed for AFTER discharge. So that's when he was supposed to apply and didn't. There's nothing automatic about becoming a citizen, it is and should be an action required upon the hopeful citizen, same way you actually put some effort into becoming a Marine.
It's funny to me, though, that he never bothered applying, but also wasn't bothered that he never stood in front of an official, was never quizzed on civics, swore an oath, or received a naturalization certificate. It's almost like he literally decided secret ninjas will do all that for him and never even let him know 🤦♂️ pretty sure he was a substandard Marine, then. What he shows as awards are automatic time in grade promotion and a 2 hour correspondence course. I have a total of 10 certificates of commendation, letters of appreciation, and certificates of appreciation, along with a Distinguished Service Medal, in 4 years, and got my citizenship during the same time, and was sworn in on the deck of an aircraft carrier by California lieutenant governor.
It took some research, but blaming a recruiter for some false promises is bs. The guard for your building can let you in to work, tell you where offices are, what benefits the company has but 1: he's not CEO, 2: he doesn't get to make any promises unless they're in writing, and 3: whatever they tell you is to help you navigate once you're in, but what you want to do and how to do it is strictly your job
What if he served and got killed?
Does his corpse get citizenship?
This is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard in my life!
Tricking foreign people to fight wars we ourselves have no business being in...
Ugh!
I don't like America when RETARDICANS are in office!
@@leok7193 he was honorably discharged......he didnt desert, kill someone, etc any other bs you can think of
Joining the military does not guarantee you U. S. citizenship. They will help you, but you will never get it if you are waiting.
Exactly, the application is free
@ClarkShumway ---> Wow ---- with that logic you must be a guvment paper pusher. Joining and serving Honorably in a Branch of the U.S. military SHOULD give automatic U.S. citizenship. Spineless/gutless born in America boys that have never served a single day are considered "citizens" simply because their mother hatched them somewhere in the U.S.A.. The man in the video enlisted in the hardest Branch of the U.S. military and served honorably.
{Sad that your post got any "Thumbs Ups" at all.}
Spot on. The military doesn't guarantee citizenship, it can only facilitate. Still today, new soldiers who are legal I-551 card holders, and have applied properly for citizenship, get a fast track to citizenship. A coworker just transferred from his position as a senior drill sergeant at FT Leonard Wood. He told me that they will go above and beyond to get trainees a citizenship ceremony at graduation time, but the paperwork needs to be completely in order, and most of that lies with the individual.
@@Driftless-Ramblings according to the recruiters, the paperwork is done by them. thats the problem, people are directly told that they just have to serve and that they process will be done for them. i have seen it first hand.
@@gasad01374 If true (don't take it personally, i don't trust anyone on the internet) that's appaling.
I feel ya brother. Always read the contract before signing. Hopefully someone will make it right. Semper Fi.
This is a DISGRACE. This should have NEVER happened. As a sister of a Marine and also as a mother of another Marine - I am disturbed.
I had a friend named Dexter. He was Jamaican. A recruiter told him he could get his citizenship by joining. Never happened.
He's a American in spirit and heart. Give this man his due citizenship.
Are you telling me a recruiter told an untruth?
Tell me it aint so.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They would NEVER do that.
My father was told the same thing during Vietnam. He had to take the citizenship test to get his citizenship. And he only did it because my mom didn’t trust the process. She wanted us kids to have 2 American parents.
A Marine is not a soldier. A Marine is a Marine.
Oh yeah marines hate being called soldiers 😂 happens in movies a lot too
They teach that in basic training ?
Semper Fi, Ooh Rah!
I hear that. Being a Soldier is completely different. Being a Soldier requires intelligence and being house broken. Being a Marine just requires the individual not give Sailors a wool rash like Sheep used to when at sea for long periods. And the ability to stop a bullet . So you damn right Marines aren't Soldiers. However they do seem to be popular with Sailors !
The Sheep were easier to clean up after but Marines are said to be much more obedient and not near as rough on a Sailors private parts as a wool covered Sheep was according to the Department of the Navy.
WHAT TYPE OF DISRESPECT IS THIS?!?!?! WTF HAS AMERICA BECOME?! 🤯
seriously...calling a marine a soldier wtf how dumb is this reporter
This is just a peak at American system. The most powerful army in the world and yet they treat their own as a nobody. 🤦🏻♀️
It hasn't become anything that it wasn't already.
If he'd be an illegal trespasser, he'd get all citizenship and much more... what a disgrace.
You are an illegal trespasser get out
Such a stupid comment
But, he is technically an illegal immigrant?
@@kittydranae1762 But, he's actually an asset to our nation. We can't have that. It makes too much sense.
Every single person we encountered in the military who joined as a non citizen has become a citizen... so this is something that is on this guy.
This is insane this man deserve a damn apology from the government
They are really sorry I heard. It won't happen again probably.
@@unclesham5507 😂
I have heard of this too often now. These individuals men and women served in the US military and are promised US citizenship it should be honored
It is honored. Dude never applied for citizenship. It's not automatic. You have to apply. Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 328, a U.S. military service member may be eligible for citizenship after serving honorably for at least one year during peacetime. The veteran has to apply within six months of discharge.
If you served this country in any capacity via the military you have earned citizenship!!!😡😡😡
Under honorable discharge and. Under general discharge depending on circumstances. Just because someone joins and serves but then gets a dishonorable discharge for something serious should not have citizenship.
@@DJ-73 Exactly! You don't automatically get citizenship just because you join the military.
That's part of recruitment...I learned all about it but dealt with my decision because I allowed it to happen. It's normal to be promised all kinds of opportunities that you may never really get but you will still get educated and trained in some ways as well as paid.
This makes no sense. He served 4 years as a Marine, was issued a Social Security number, Driver's License, got married and had kids. Of course he believed he was granted citizenship! The Marine Corps needs to fix this.
Thirty years👉30 years living as a US citizen👉did he not try renewing his drivers license before now? Or did he do thirty years & now four years out he’s trying to renew his drivers license? WHY NOW is he making a fuss??? Even so, give him citizenship
@@kimlarsoare you blind?😂 they showed his drivers license in the video, it expired in 2019…. So he tried to renew it then 😂
marine corps are fknuts in their leadership.. they get upset when marines retire before age 50 and refuse to reenlist and literally retaliate against those veterans with situations like this or denied benifits... so glad I chose army.. they dont care if you leave as long as you serve for how long you promised..
The Marine Corp can't fix it, but the federal government can.
This is absolutely shameful treatment. Give him his citizenship. He’s as American as any of the rest of us.
Makes you wonder how he hasn't gotten deported for voting
..if he is a US Marine he is more American than most of US!
that's complete bull he's a citizen he served this country. that's the least the country owes him.
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
@jackdaniels5134yes it is fuck face. That’s exactly how its worked since the foundation of this country with the formation of the first continental army to fight the British. Learn some shit before u starting talking like at unAmerican traitor.
It is now
He earned his citizenship. He just never went to immigration to apply for his citizenship status. I have a buddy in the Army from S. America that served for 15 years. He still had to go through the immigration process. Now he is a naturalized American. I wonder if he was told at some point he had to do it on his own and blew if off. It has happened in the past.
He served the wrong country
When I served in the US Army, I was surprised by the number of foreigners who were serving. They should be fast tracked for citizenship.
Marines are not soldiers they are Marines!
No better way to piss off a Marine by calling him/her a soldier 😒smh
What do you call a peacetime marine ?
@@libirdinowski6270 Marine
Caught that as well. Bad journalism
@@lzcontrol a fucking useless marine 🤣
Uncle Sam never does anything automatically. You have to do the paperwork and fees until you get that paper that states you are officially a USA citizens. Don't assume because you just make an ass of yourself.
You should challenge the citizens' test. You should be a citizen of the USA.
Almost certainly, he actually is a citizen. He does not meet the requirements for Real ID because he does not have a US-issued birth certificate or passport. It is really a document probably.
He's not making an ass of himself. You've made as ass of yourself.
To the lying recruiter(s): "Thank you for your service."
Deported Veterans made me look at this country in a whole different light many years ago. Such a damn shame.
Name one treaty, contract, or promise the US has not broken.
Quit bashing America when criminalls are voted into office, blame the voters.
There are no soldiers in the marines only marines.
This is true however, Should be Marines not marines. Semper Fi
@@wayneblackwood8832YUT! 🍻
tbh as someone not from the US that sounds confusing
I guess thats the same thing as when civilians call anything with tracks and a gun a "tank" lol
@MrTsiolkovsky but they don't serve in an army. They serve in a Marine Corps. Even if you mean as an "Army" echelon of a formation that's still not necessary true.
@MrTsiolkovskyI see you Vatnik’s are clueless.
This man is an American citizen if he paid taxes, served in the armed forces, and cast a ballot! At least he should be granted citizenship if he served with honor. Another example is when we lie to and treat our veterans disrespectfully. This is quite dishonorable!
EVERYONE pays taxes... citizen or not ... LEGAL foreigners can serve in the Armed Forces ... He was voting illegally since he was not a citizen .... these are FACTS that get in the way of an emotional reaction... HOWEVER... he sure IS entitled to citizenship in my book... he just forgot to apply and assumed (ask a Marine what happens when you assume) it would be taken care of and never followed up to find out.
Bro never thought to check if he was a US citizen before voting... that's super bad because that's a serious reportable offense. Super hard to overcome that.
As a fellow veteran this makes me sick to my stomach. He is more American than most. We veterans are only a very small percent of this country.
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
@@SandCrabNews He just hasn’t figured how to work the system yet. I hope he gets justice.
Less than 1 percent of Americans are military folk. We spend more on building weapons than on the people.
@@funveeable Very much agree. Back when I was in we only made up 1% of the country. 🫡
Seriously? I'm a Marine Veteran. The only thing that makes me sick to my stomach is that this Marine expects something that wasn't written in his contract or US Law. He should have known better. He did no independent research to verify the promise or how one becomes a US citizen. He can still be a citizen. He needs to quit his whining and jump through the proper hoops to become a citizen.
He served honorably for America. He is due citizenship. There’s too many people who contribute nothing that are given citizenship. This man contributed.
many people serve. but after they serve there is a process they must do. and he didnt. simple.
@@diegojines-us9pc BS, the man served. We (America) give citizenship to all sorts of folks that haven't given a doggone thing back to the US; give the man his citizenship that he has earned. Now that is an issue that our government need to address ASAP.
@@MrFran069 the rules state if you serve you can stay in country legally AS LONG AS YOU APPLY. he didnt so there,
@@diegojines-us9pc he was told by the recruiter that all he had to do was serve and that the recruiter would do everything else, so he did what he was told to do and the recruiter didnt. simple.
@@gasad01374 now as a vet myself. i dont know of any recruiter that would say he would do the best, ask around,
I was an army recruiter, that attorney is wrong on sooooo many levels!
Agreed. 💯
I agree completely. They are making it more of a thing then it is. The guy is eligible for citizenship but he needs to first apply for permanent residency. He probably he had a bank account all this time anyway.
Bonuses for enlisting poolee's
Lol, right!?! I never received any bonuses, just constant abuse and threats from lesser leaders, who were hiding from the real Army. Worst 3 years of my life!
@@Driftless-Ramblings Recruiting was indeed the worst time of my life. I have so many stories to tell. It sucked fecal matter straight from the devil's rectal cavity.
i am a naturalized citizen i was told the same thing but i grew up listening and asking questions the Truth is you do become a citizen the untold is the process. So i asked questions my recruiter looked up the answers could not find it i call INS and they told me the process and broke it down i didnt have to wait 6 years i can start the process around year 4 and my self and a fellow Marine did right before we went to Japan and Iraq. I became a citizen months after enlistment ended. The government didnt screw him he did not do his proper research which is understanable for his time
and they got the nerve to complain about low enrollment.
As a natural American citizen I am outraged. This is absolutely ridiculous!!! 😡
Wooooo USA USA 🇺🇸
An American soldier in the US Marines….. seriously ABC?
That shit ate at me too man like holy shit.
For those unfamiliar: the Army is comprised of soldiers, the Marine Corps is made up of Marines.
Almost all Americans who have not served in the military incorrectly refer to all military personnel as 'soldiers'. It's kinda like the widespread misuse of the term 'Native American'.
@@DistrustHumanz exactly what I was getting at. I served in the Marine Corps and now I’m in the National Guard, and that still bothers me.
@@josephmaness7515 yup! Drives me nuts every damn time. This is something that is so damn simple.
Recruiters DO NOT get a bonus for people they put it. Also this is a failure on his unit. I had this happen to a guy I was hiring for a federal job. It literally took him a year to get his citizenship.
Where are Florida Senators. Come on, Marco and Scott. And that's Cat Cammack's congressional district.
Yea we’ve got to get this marine his DL. This is ridiculous!
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
Those two fucks won't do anything for that man
And there's thousands more like him, when they don't want to give you your pension or your medical or whatnot they deport you, and unfortunately sometimes even worse
Sometimes yeah lol.
People saying give him Citizenship, well give the same to Mexicans, Guatemalans that went through the samething. Sympathize for them as well.
yep
Deal
Agreed!
Of course
if they served in the military or through legal immigration
This poor man is simply another victim of “Your recruiter lied to you”.
I also enlisted in the 90's in the US Marines when I was 18 after Highschool, as a US Resident/Green Card holder. When the time came (Two years after I enlisted and 6 years after I became a Resident with a Green Card), I when to INS and applied for Citizenship, they waived all the cost of the paperwork because I was in the Military and couple of weeks later I was sworn in as a US Citizen. It is not automatic, but it is not difficult either. I think this man drop the ball on himself as well. I am pretty confident that eventually they will give him his US Citizenship.
The recruiters lied to the guy.
This is absolutely absurd. This man should be granted his citizenship immediately.
Not how it works.
@@geeewiz2231 -- He tried it there / legal way and they turned around and bent him over.
In 1986, I was told by a recruiter that Marines get all the women. I enlisted based solely upon that. Can I sue?
Lol!!
You can if a reasonable person would believe the statement as fact
Short answer - NO. Don't be so gullible.
If you managed to avoid poon as a marine, you sir are the most unattractive male alive. I'm sorry but I have alot of experience and spent time around too many who**s and run into too many that say some stuff like "MILITARY MEN TO THE FRONT!!" so you genuinely failed.
I think you have a case brother
After 30 years in the military he should have been accustomed to SNAFUs and followed up on getting the paperwork squared away.