I really like the fact that they are using themes from the first starcraft for the patch overviews. It makes it that much more exciting. I'm also wondering if they use adjutant as the announcer for the new maps.
If they will give people a map select option the queue times will be WAYYYYYYYYYYY longer.. very bad idea to do so and they know it, and I am glad they do.
Looking forward to this, a new map with a StarCraft setting. The Terran music which brings back fond memories. Playing as a Zerg, Terran, or Protoss hero will feel right at home.
They scraped/re-designed the arena since what was shown at Blizzcon last year. It is now going to be something similar to the random weekly brawls like they have in Overwatch. I imagine it will be unveiled at this years Blizzcon with it being released shortly there after.
If you want a brawl mode, check out channel /join aram -- In there you'll find people that like to play on the one lane, no objective map called "Lost Cavern."
Also, they specified thatyou will not be able to have more than 2 specific heroes, warriors, or healers. Abathur is one of those unique heroes. And by the way, it would be a stab fest of evolve monstrosities.
Looks like a fun new map. Zerg models look rad and I like the Infested Archangel too. Hoping we get more Starcraft-themed maps too, I want an opposing forces map of Terran vs. Zerg units!
I like this map, especially the boss in the middle, I'm glad it's not just a re-skin of the usual bosses with the same stuff as the other map bosses, but it's actually different in almost every way.
I had hoped that the objective rewards would be more gradual. Like there was a finite pool of zerg units to draw from and both teams would be fighting for their share of it. Sort of like Haunted Mines did. Right now it just seems very similar to the Immortal maps.
That's what happens, both teams do fight for a share of the zerg-pie. If one team gets 0% and the other gets 100% then the 0% team gets none, or almost no zerg.
The simultaneous offense and defense waves (instead of single immortal to victor) I think will make it feel different enough. Feels like it could be very snowbally though.
I liked haunted mines, the flaw in that map had rotational objective paths but was bilateral symmetrical. If it had rotational symmetry it would work much better.
When the enemy unleashes a 100% zerg rush. Most Terran and Protoss: By the khala/Oh god the zerg advance!/are coming! Retreat! Dehaka:[HEAVY ZERG BREATHING] So much essence. Must hold lane. Must collect.(Dark Swarm activates)
what i mean is they need to tone down the zerg rush's power until people understand how the map works and who plays well there. Then bring it back to what it is now. That's what they did with Infernal shrines.
w.t.f., thought they were too easy to kill lol, I mean AoE is imminent yes, but = one wave over the Hydras while Banes are trying to pass over them kills half of the Zerg already lol. Then you're left with the Ultras/Guardians, and Guardians do a pitiful amount of dps anyway so it's the Ultras that do the majority of damage which overall is comparable to most other map objectives I think The boss shoots pretty "soft" too, kinda confused to why you say this :P (EDIT) Example = 3:12 the moment when Banelings pass from the back and run by the Hydras = AoE waveclear over both, ignore the Lings (low HP) and all you're left afterwards with are G and U, can take quite a while to kill but overall not too much DPS, most of the DPS is done by Hydras and Banes IMO so kill those first (with one swoop of couple AoE abilities if possible) and should be fine afterwards with Ultras being the ones that do the majority of damage (which isn't much probably anyway)
Seems like this map will favor heroes adept at waveclear, something is a strength of most Specialists. As someone who plays Specialists (and Assassins with good waveclear) a lot I am fine with this =D
I don't understand why this map gets so much hate at the moment. You were always whining for a Starcraft map. Now that you finally got a very decent and original one, you are STILL complaining. Personally, I like the map and its design. It has the original Starcraft terran theme, it has alot of very original new ideas and concepts and for GOD'S SAKE it is NOT a reskinned Haunted Mines and neither a new Battlefield of Eternity. Both of these maps' objectives are completely different from this one and also play alot differently. So would you please, for once, stop bitching and enjoy this, truly well made and fun to play, map. For my part, I can only congratulate Blizzard for this piece of art right here.
MrOladin Blizzard community is a bunch of crybabies who are never happy, that's why. I really feel bad for blizz, they're doing great and people treat them like this
The music that plays in game during these two battlegrounds is based off of Starcraft One music, but isn't nearly as good as the originals, albeit very similar.
It's more akin to Haunted Mines. There is a "night phase" where you go into the "pens" instead of the underground mines. The size of your zerg swarm is largely determined by how you fare on the "night" phases, just like the Skull Golems depended skulls collected in the mines. Capture point controlled time is the resource here, not skulls.
Olmaxx Miller Not ? two lanes with place to hold that folks will be fighting over.... the only change is that we are fighting over minion zerg instead of dragon boss-transformation. ANd I am happy... I love DS deathmatch.
0:36 I LOVE how that looks just like an SC2 map overview. So cool.
Am i the only one who gets super hyped for this patch just because of the original terran theme alone?
No sir, you are not
Been craving some SC maps for a long time.
You are not alone in this matter
I really like the fact that they are using themes from the first starcraft for the patch overviews. It makes it that much more exciting. I'm also wondering if they use adjutant as the announcer for the new maps.
If they're both Terran maps, it should be either the adjutant or at least like, Duran or someone.
>that feeling when awesome new maps get released
>log in
>find match
>welcome to garden of terror
>fml
Blizz, is it too much to ask to give us a map select option?
it hasn't been released, it's on the PTR still.
+Simon Bjelk i know, but you get my point.
when a new map reale, it should be only map for a day
If they will give people a map select option the queue times will be WAYYYYYYYYYYY longer.. very bad idea to do so and they know it, and I am glad they do.
For the love of god Blizz, give us the music. I need these Brood War remixes.
No we need the original
Check iTunes, they have the original soundtrack available.
If you need it urgently, it is present in StarCraft II for matchmaking and custom maps.
We need it for HOTS. IN HOTS!
They said they would use the music in the map I think
The whole aesthetic is so different from any other map. It's so refreshing and cool, and it's about time too. To the Nexus!
I love how the Zerglings tried to surround Valla when they attacked her.
That's how Zerglings work.
Looking forward to this, a new map with a StarCraft setting. The Terran music which brings back fond memories. Playing as a Zerg, Terran, or Protoss hero will feel right at home.
Battlefield of Eternity had always been my favorite map but...
I think it's met its match with this one
Please for the love of all things brood war, use the classic Starcraft music for this map
They do. They use the remixed Terran themes of Starcraft 1 for both Braxis Holdout and Warhead Junction.
I think they use the zerg themes too
Yeah, they use it when the zerg rush starts
They can use the terran themes from SC2 as well, and I'll be pleased.
I was thinking the same when I heard the classic Starcraft I themes in the video!
This map will be amazing. Good job, Blizzard!
6.5/10 not enough roaches
This map is SC 1 themed.
+VŠEO Up they have marauders, cyclones a viking boss(Archangel) and ravens.
+VŠEO Up also banelings are SC2
yeah, but the music, guardians, goliaths... Braxis is a symbol of SC1
yeah, but not enough roaches
THE SC1 Terran Remix music! The feels!! I am crying in joy.
I guess i'm the only one sitting here STILL waiting for Arena....
You are not alone friend of mine...
how did u guys became friends?
Giovani Ripan You can be friend too...
We're all friends in the eyes of lord Harambe.
Blizzcon 99% they must keep something new for the big event
I like the balance changes they've made to the strength of the zerg. It's done wonders for the map.
HotS had soo much potential, it's so sad to see it die.... :/
Right? This game from what gameplay I've seen, it looks so much more genuine fun then League of legends
Map looks super cool! Loving the Starcraft themed buildings, I'm going to enjoy this map.
looks action packed. can't wait.
I'm very excited for this map! This game is seriously underrated!
Starcraft soundtrack is just SO good
NESTEA at 1:42.
Hooray for the King of Zerg.
And the other Zerg pen reads "yellow." King of second.
i though it was cose they like to drink nestea xd
Nope. Nestea was one of the best zergs SC has ever seen. He had to change his name though from brood war to SC2.
Medinaxz i know, it was just my 1º impression
i saw that too
im still waiting for the arena
Its been what? Almost 1 year already after introducing it? xD
Devilrose And they release everything else except arena
It's only in custom games.
+234Jillwer34 nope. I strongly think it's going to be a game mode
It's a part of Custom Match as a map.
This sounds like a fun map. Thank you for more content Blizzard. :)
so basically this is a more polished and balanced Haunted mines?
It seems more like Battlefield of Eternity to me, just with more units.
Only thing it has in common with BoE is sendind something to push. Way to earn the objective is totally different.
I miss Haunted Mines. :(
My thoughts exactly :)
+animegx45 same, the two parts of the map was unique, I wish they updated it and put it back into rotation
So excited
Machines of war aside, where's the arena mode? Still waiting for the 10 abby slap festival
They scraped/re-designed the arena since what was shown at Blizzcon last year. It is now going to be something similar to the random weekly brawls like they have in Overwatch. I imagine it will be unveiled at this years Blizzcon with it being released shortly there after.
If you want a brawl mode, check out channel /join aram -- In there you'll find people that like to play on the one lane, no objective map called "Lost Cavern."
Also, they specified thatyou will not be able to have more than 2 specific heroes, warriors, or healers.
Abathur is one of those unique heroes. And by the way, it would be a stab fest of evolve monstrosities.
Once charged, the pens open and release a massive wave of Zerg that crash the enemies FPS to minimal levels for the duration.
Looks like a fun new map. Zerg models look rad and I like the Infested Archangel too.
Hoping we get more Starcraft-themed maps too, I want an opposing forces map of Terran vs. Zerg units!
That...Starcraft...BGM my god THE NOSTALGIA! i wish i had the option to play it in every map. Gotta love Terran's OST
I like this map, especially the boss in the middle, I'm glad it's not just a re-skin of the usual bosses with the same stuff as the other map bosses, but it's actually different in almost every way.
seems like another version of haunted mines with the big push longer you can hold obj with battlefield of eternity. Can't wait to play it :)
awesome music and i really missed new maps! totally great news. im in again!
Can't wait to play this!
I had hoped that the objective rewards would be more gradual. Like there was a finite pool of zerg units to draw from and both teams would be fighting for their share of it. Sort of like Haunted Mines did. Right now it just seems very similar to the Immortal maps.
That's what happens, both teams do fight for a share of the zerg-pie. If one team gets 0% and the other gets 100% then the 0% team gets none, or almost no zerg.
but one team can get 100 and the other 98
Oh right then I misunderstood the video.
The simultaneous offense and defense waves (instead of single immortal to victor) I think will make it feel different enough.
Feels like it could be very snowbally though.
I liked haunted mines, the flaw in that map had rotational objective paths but was bilateral symmetrical. If it had rotational symmetry it would work much better.
Starcraft Map HYPE!!! I hope they will release maps which will feature Protoss units too
Maan I wish there's a map like the Lava mission in Starcraft2, where in X amount time, the lava will rise... it would be interesting
1080P Quality! About time blizz lol
Alarak Overview coming soon then too? Considering they're both coming out the same day.
finally a starcraft map...
Where can i get these SWEET Starcraft remixes?
When the enemy unleashes a 100% zerg rush.
Most Terran and Protoss: By the khala/Oh god the zerg advance!/are coming! Retreat!
Dehaka:[HEAVY ZERG BREATHING] So much essence. Must hold lane. Must collect.(Dark Swarm activates)
Gotta collect them all!
*Dark Swarm intensifies*
cant wait to see this map on Esports
If this is the map music I will cry, Soundtrack of my childhood.
Finally, a starcraft --themed map
Hoping that once we get a WC themed map it'll have a Grubby reference somewhere. 'cause you know he's the King of the Orcs.
I love how they are using remastered versions of the original Starcraft soundtrack for the map.
Im still waiting for that terran mix D: its so beautiful!
When you go Starcraft Maps ??? I NEED IT !!! I MUST HAVE IT !!!
Hoping when they come up with ideas for new SC themed maps, they'll try something with worker protection/destruction.
Could basically use Dawngate's spirit well mechanics whole cloth and have them power some form of advantage, whether XP or flashy pushes.
maybe worker mercs that mine resources that you can trade for buffs?
Alt joke: Make every map just an SMNC map.
AND ITS HOT SHOTS WITH THE ANNIHILATOR
I would've liked to see a prottoss themed map (or half prottoss half zerg similarily to BoE)
Man i miss that game (SMNC)
Breez showed us how good Rexxar is on this map, I wonder if he will come back :).
By far the coolest map
This map was a lot of fun on PTR, not sure if thats because its new or actually good.
The arena is to Heroes of the Storm
What magma chamber is to League of Legends.
A myth.
Did anyone else notice the Nestea (N35T34) product placement on the holding pen?
It must've been murder for scientists to put control devices on Banelings
No control devices. Psi disrupters can mind control the Zerg
From what I've learned Lorewise, Psi disruptors make them aimless, Psi Emitters attract them, and Hive mind emulators control them
i just want to hear the remix !!!
About time they released a starcraft themed map
So pumped for this map. Super hoping that it replaces Blackheart's.
And sc2 playas and kerrigan, abbathur, and zagara mains proudly use their main in braxxis holdout
Aww Id love a map, where you keep your progress of the objective if you lose. Would make for an easier turn around.
oooo that Rexxar skin 0:58
Aww...when I saw "Braxis", I thought they meant the snow world from Brood War. That would've been awesome.
Feels like this is the new Haunted Mines but made it more fun.
Tfw you hear the terran theme.. sweet memories!
Looks like fun!
I love the music
Hopefully they tone down the snowball, until people get used to the map at least. Getting to level 16 before the game ends is rare on this map.
Well it's a small map, lane-wise anyway. Not every map needs to go to level 20+. Draft accordingly.
what i mean is they need to tone down the zerg rush's power until people understand how the map works and who plays well there. Then bring it back to what it is now. That's what they did with Infernal shrines.
w.t.f., thought they were too easy to kill lol, I mean AoE is imminent yes, but = one wave over the Hydras while Banes are trying to pass over them kills half of the Zerg already lol. Then you're left with the Ultras/Guardians, and Guardians do a pitiful amount of dps anyway so it's the Ultras that do the majority of damage which overall is comparable to most other map objectives I think
The boss shoots pretty "soft" too, kinda confused to why you say this :P
(EDIT) Example = 3:12 the moment when Banelings pass from the back and run by the Hydras = AoE waveclear over both, ignore the Lings (low HP) and all you're left afterwards with are G and U, can take quite a while to kill but overall not too much DPS, most of the DPS is done by Hydras and Banes IMO so kill those first (with one swoop of couple AoE abilities if possible) and should be fine afterwards with Ultras being the ones that do the majority of damage (which isn't much probably anyway)
beautiful
Awesome! So i'm guessing good comps will be 2 tanks, 2 sups and one dps, with 2 of those being good lane clearers ...right?
finally a star craft dedicated map
I agree with a few other comments, where did arena go? it's been about a year and still no word of it at all.
1:22 nice easter egg. You are placing pro starcraft gamers' names around the place.
Ah nice catch
Map looks awesome! More excited for this then Alarak lol. BUT, i am looking forward to Zarya in couple weeks :D
i Love this terran themed map
AWESOME
OMG hope it will arrive soon
Next week :)
the 13th. so next tuesday!
Or 14.09 EU.
Finally new minions!
this sounds fun why have not heard of this ?
"You earn one Ultralisk at 50%, and one at 100%...but they only do anything at 100% so telling you this was superfluous"
This is badass,
2:40 I told that this is Archangel and one that didn't know lose bet.
This makes me want a SCV hero
I hope the zergs are not to op with 100%. That was the point to remove haunted mines.
My most favourited map next Blackheart's bay in this game
Man, when's this dropping? It's been on the PTR for like 3 weeks.
So when is Arena coming again?
for like a year now, the arrival date for Arena has been the end of 2016
I still want the Hauted Mines back ((
Seems like this map will favor heroes adept at waveclear, something is a strength of most Specialists. As someone who plays Specialists (and Assassins with good waveclear) a lot I am fine with this =D
They were sure no one picks ultralisk on kerrigan, so no one is going to think this ultralisk belongs to enemy kerrgian or their kerrigan.
1:42 Nice touch Blizzard!
ZERG RUSH (ahhh old memes, come back to me)
I don't understand why this map gets so much hate at the moment. You were always whining for a Starcraft map. Now that you finally got a very decent and original one, you are STILL complaining.
Personally, I like the map and its design. It has the original Starcraft terran theme, it has alot of very original new ideas and concepts and for GOD'S SAKE it is NOT a reskinned Haunted Mines and neither a new Battlefield of Eternity. Both of these maps' objectives are completely different from this one and also play alot differently. So would you please, for once, stop bitching and enjoy this, truly well made and fun to play, map. For my part, I can only congratulate Blizzard for this piece of art right here.
It is just too easy to snowball. I do like the music and the Starcraft theme, just not the objective
MrOladin Blizzard community is a bunch of crybabies who are never happy, that's why. I really feel bad for blizz, they're doing great and people treat them like this
Such a cool map. Sucks I only play it once every 15 maps when I do quick play
awesome
2:15 Those aren't Goliaths, they look a lot more like Vikings in their ground forms.
many Zerg, usually the first team to capture that swarm is always the winner. Please change that
The music that plays in game during these two battlegrounds is based off of Starcraft One music, but isn't nearly as good as the originals, albeit very similar.
At 2:35 it sounds like he says "respond" instead of "respawn."
Second Dragon Shrine!
YEAHHHH!
Not even remotely close.
Stop complaining.
It's more akin to Haunted Mines. There is a "night phase" where you go into the "pens" instead of the underground mines. The size of your zerg swarm is largely determined by how you fare on the "night" phases, just like the Skull Golems depended skulls collected in the mines. Capture point controlled time is the resource here, not skulls.
Olmaxx Miller
Not ? two lanes with place to hold that folks will be fighting over.... the only change is that we are fighting over minion zerg instead of dragon boss-transformation. ANd I am happy... I love DS deathmatch.
So basically, it's a zerg rush. With Diablo, Tracer, Arthas and the Lost Vikings potentially leading it.
Sure.
I need this music!