Another great review. Look forward to some long pulls across a lake against one another. Be cool if all the boosted sleds were involved & some break-in was incl. The 998 always whips a little stronger after 1500 km’s on the odo. Can’t help but notice the predominately 2 manufacturer exposure this year. For obvious reasons but still not the way we wish it were.
I was down by the Twin Cities this week talking to the dealers. If they don't get snow soon they will be sitting on 24 model year sleds for another year as well as 25s
I live in the twin cities. I’ve been out of snowmobiling for about 10 years. One doo dealer here has some amazing discounts on new sleds. I might pull the trigger if the prices keep coming down.
I got some miles on my 25 xterrain 850 turbo, idk how a sled could be any better than it is. Absolute missile, brilliant handling, rides great, can definitely feel the softer initial shock valving on the front end. Hopefully st rides one this year
I have a 2016 Renegade 800.. It only has 800 miles on it. Never get any snow in SW Michigan .. Anyway I had not really noticed how bad it vibrates at an idle until SnowTrax mentioned it when Skidoo make the upgrade. My other sled is a 2006 Yamaha Attack .. now that 4 cylinder is smooth .
@@snowtrax I Spoke with my friend near Trout Creek he said not much snow. There are areas that get way more Lake Effect snow. I live near Kalamazoo MI Not much snow here, but go 20 miles West Closer to Lake MI and they get three times more snow from there to the Lake .
@@kwmiked at least one of them raced snow cross. I met a guy on the trails who told me how to set up my front suspension on my 2006 Yamaha Attack .. night and day better handling with less pre-load on the front springs. It's rate that I ever run into anyone who can keep up with me on the trails. Then My 10" Simmons ski dug into the top of a culver and bent my A-arms and Spindle .. I think it was Mountain Performance only had the 1.5" wider A-Arms so now my sled has a 3" wider stance and 10" wide skies.. I think they A-arms are chrome molly too. Also bent a shock badly when the plastic ski dug into the top of the Culvert. so went with Fox Air shocks .
Good video guys. Thanks for going over the offer trail performance. I like both sleds but will be off trail more most likely as I leave from home more to go snowmobiling and usually have to make my own trails or go onto trails that are not groomed and barely anyone goes on. I am springchecking the Backcountry. Do you think the 43” front end will do well in 3 feet of powder on old mining and logging roads?
I think you're going to sacrifice a little bit in the deep stuff to get that better on-trail handling, but I think you'll still have a great time playing in the powder. Note that the 43 is also geared taller for trail riding and the 39 is geared lower for off-trail.
Where are you guys in this video. We are based out of St. Germain, WI and there isn't any snow here. We would love to trailer into CA or anywhere for that matter to get on the snow in this video. Pls advise.
@@snowtrax I was a Skibum @ Alta UT in 1983. They average 500" of snow per year of really light powder. In '83 they got 720 inches of snow 60 feet. They told me they don't ride snowmobiles in the Wasatch they just get stuck. It was about then that guys started custom building long Track sleds for riding in the Powder in the Mountains. Mountain sleds have come a long way in recent years. I have done a lot of extreme skiing in the steep and deep but have never ridden a sled in the Mountains with exception of a half day rental near Whistler. I got yelled at for riding too fast in the first 15 minutes. I was lagging way back in last place then would speed up . I got in trouble for going off the groomed trail . We did get to ride on a open meadow or Lake with Deep Snow.. The Guide was showing me how to stand up to corner in the powder, but my legs were so burned up I could hardly walk so I just sat on the seat most of the time. It only took about 3 days for my legs to recover, but I was back in Michigan by then. It used to take me 30 days of skiing to get my legs in great shape to ski hard core moguls and powder for the next two months. Did that for 3 winters instead of college.. Then became self employed .. Blew out my knee the last year and my knee brace would wear my calf raw after 1 days of skiing . A few years later I got a good comfortable CTI brace. I duct tape it over my ski pants and am good to go. Have worn it snowmobiling too.
I rented 4# of these vr1 650 in yellowstone last year for 10 days . Good power for what it was. it was a warm sled and handled good, hand warmers I had to program them. hard to do on the fly. My wife and kid had cold hands most of the trip ran them all the way up to the max heat still was not good enough . She found it hard to program . last day I rented a couple of Ski doo's they had one switch for low med heigh so much better. 4 strokes were buttery smother also. Real word testing no bull , Ive owned every brand.
Your not supposed to program them on the fly. The rental place should have set them up they way you wanted before you left. If you have smart warmers turned all the way up and your still getting cold hands, I dont know that theres a solution for you. They are HOT. Keep in mind also, the skidoo you rode has the old switch gear. Its far more complicated now. Still works, but theres not a single person here at snowtrax who doesnt feel the smartwarmers on the polaris are the pinnacle of heated hand/thumb warmer design.
You buy a new sled, next year you want to renew. You eat $10k on the resale of a one year old sled!! It’s disgusting, but so is a carton of eggs at $4.00!!
Hello just getting into the Sport. Looking to mostly go up to Tug hill area. Im looking at a used Snowmobile to start. 2015 Polaris 800 switchback pro -s its services at a local shop in my home town. Would this be a Good snowmobile to start with. The price seams inline what i see out there. And my budget again im a Rookie to this. Thank.
@@thomasthompson4999 sleds are sleds. They can all suck😂. I ride cat I’ve had great luck. My buddy’s ride doo and poo and they have had great luck as well. We all ride 600 cc sleds though. Recommendation is buy what you want and do the basic maintenance every year. Then ride!
Just make sure the mileage is low. If it has over 5000 miles, it might be ready for some maintenance or a rebuild. Ask your dealer if the 800 got re-flashed. I think that fixed a lot of the issues it originally had. Lots of great insight on this thread. I'm positive the people in this community will help with some solid advice.
Correct. We realized shortly after posting that it was actually missing the first 5 minutes, s o we pulled it down to fix it but we had other videos in the schedule. we intend to re-post it soon.
@illuitok1692 If we werent paid, we'd starve. Were not paid for our opinions. Were paid to honestly evaluate. We are NOT paid to say nice things. Weve stopped caring if people believe that or not.
@@pavmentsurfer13 I didn’t say they shouldn’t get paid, if they get paid for providing opinions I’m happy for them, again, they provide the best reviews for consumers. How ever you get income is your choice. I work and I’m not complaining whether they get paid just for there opinions it’s what they are hired for. So just move along and find someone you can persuade your ideologies. I love this channel and there reviews.
I’m going to forget about a new sled. The prices make no sense. I’ll go back to basics with a mid 90s to early 2000 sled. I’ll have more fun and can work on them myself ! Enough of the greed !
hmm, I see you deleted my comment pointing out Polaris' persistent "No sell No ride" recall issues. Nice, but oh yeah, that's right, you claim you aren't biased and just give facts.
Ugh, Can't stand idiotic accusations like this. Nobody deleted your comments, bud. Are you sure you even commented on our video or was it on someone else's channel? This is all the energy I'm willing to put into this. Follow up with any kind of nonsense comment and our admin will just block you from the channel. Enjoy your day.
@@snowtrax Sorry @snowtrax I've got his back here, I saw the comment before it was deleted. Well written comment on how recalls have moved buyers away from Polaris. The comment even provided a link to Polaris recall site.
I just had a thought that both made me said and Laugh about you Communists in the Great White North. I was thinking the speed limit is very low. I did a search that told me the speed limit in Ontario is 50 KPH.. What a Joke.. Why spend Over $20,000.00 on a sled that you can't even run half throttle. If we ever get snow in SW Michigan .. I can hit 100 MPH on some of the straight aways across corn fields. I like to be a bit more conservative when I am near trees. Speed limits. The maximum speed limit on snowmobile trails is 50 km/h, but conditions often require a slower speed. Adjust your speed to the weather and trail conditions. Alongside roads, speed limits for snowmobiles are not the same as the posted speed limits for other vehicles. Here are the limits for different paths and areas. I guess I can triple the speed limit of Ontario and go at least 162 KPH My 2006 Yamaha Attack was reading 129 MPH on the Dreamometer that was 116 MPH on GPS and my 2014 Skidoo Renegade 800 hits the Rev Limiter at 108 MPH on GPS.. I did not know what on earth was wrong with it spitting and sputtering and cutting out. Then I got prescription glasses with bi-focals so I can read the gauges and see the overspeed warning.
@@snowtrax If you don't know how Socialist you are you have not been paying attention. The USA is not a Capitalist Country anymore, It's Cronie Capitalism. The Global Bankers, Big Pharma, Military Industrial Complex and the Health Insurance Industry own Congress, the Senate and the President. General Motors and Chrysler got Bail Outs. Seems I heard that the Canadian Tax Payers gave $500 Million to Bombardier. The American Tax payers have given $2 Billion to Tesla. Your Car Insurance rates and required snowmobile Insurance ect are Absorbent & abhorrent. I carry a loaded handgun with me in the USA, try that in Canada. There are a few Communist States in the USA that I can't do it either. The Forrest Fires are planned through mismanagement too . Canada has many good snowmobile Trails but the cost of all of the Permits and Insurance is ridiculous. I don't want to spend all of that money just to get a ticket for riding over 50 KPH. Plus I let my Passport Expire in 2020, because I never got the Experimental Clot Shot that causes Super Cancer. Most batches were inert but others were deadly .
I can hit over 100mph on straightaways on lakes all day long. We have a lake thats over 7 miles long. We also have lots of cornfield trails. Im not recommending riding over the speed limit. But lets be honest, 50kmh is ridiculous. But lakes are unrestricted. Nothing like holding a turbo to the bars for 5 straight minutes.
Yup, you know as well as we do that the term "motor" has been used synonimously with engines since the ICE was invented. We sometimes call ATVs bikes when we do reviews on DIRT TRAX, but you guys still know what we're talking about. Every now and again we're gonna say motor so I hope you guys can live with it. 👍
@ElmerBixBixby whatever....there isn't anything about the front of that sled that says this is a good looking sled. Out of all the brands I personally rank them last on appearance.
Best part of my winter, right after sledding, is the snowtrax videos!!! 🔥
Appreciate that!!
It's rough to not see Yamaha's sponsorship not be front and center of these videos. Thanks as always for the content!
I always feel like I’m watching a Polaris commercial
Why?
Why
It is a Polaris commercial
Another great review. Look forward to some long pulls across a lake against one another. Be cool if all the boosted sleds were involved & some break-in was incl. The 998 always whips a little stronger after 1500 km’s on the odo. Can’t help but notice the predominately 2 manufacturer exposure this year. For obvious reasons but still not the way we wish it were.
I was down by the Twin Cities this week talking to the dealers. If they don't get snow soon they will be sitting on 24 model year sleds for another year as well as 25s
It is the magic ingredient.
I live in the twin cities. I’ve been out of snowmobiling for about 10 years. One doo dealer here has some amazing discounts on new sleds. I might pull the trigger if the prices keep coming down.
Awesome video guys! The Assault is just hard to beat!
I think the Lynx Xterrain would be a better opponent for the Polaris than the Backcountry
And now it's time for the Lynx Rave RE turboR😏
I got some miles on my 25 xterrain 850 turbo, idk how a sled could be any better than it is. Absolute missile, brilliant handling, rides great, can definitely feel the softer initial shock valving on the front end. Hopefully st rides one this year
Rip 998, one of the greatest if not the greatest sled engines ever made.
Yep i would run amsoil interceptor in it if i get one used.
@@jlo13800 lmao why would you run 2 stroke oil in a 998
@ rig it to burn it off with rigged up oil injection
The polaris just looks more stable. Razor crisp handling is what we say!
Dynamix is pretty cool....
I have a 2016 Renegade 800.. It only has 800 miles on it. Never get any snow in SW Michigan .. Anyway I had not really noticed how bad it vibrates at an idle until SnowTrax mentioned it when Skidoo make the upgrade. My other sled is a 2006 Yamaha Attack .. now that 4 cylinder is smooth .
It is a good haul to the UP, but from what I'm seeing the snow is good.
@@snowtrax I Spoke with my friend near Trout Creek he said not much snow. There are areas that get way more Lake Effect snow. I live near Kalamazoo MI Not much snow here, but go 20 miles West Closer to Lake MI and they get three times more snow from there to the Lake .
@@mikeskidmore6754snow on 94, 196, and 131 added an hour to my trip to Cadillac on Friday. But it was a great ride for the weekend.
If you don't want a ski lift on the inner ski, you have to go to the Sidewinder SRX or Thundercat
@@MrGrobert1 never really felt like ski lift was a big concern. Just transfers weight to the outside ski and helps it dig in more.
@@kwmiked at least one of them raced snow cross. I met a guy on the trails who told me how to set up my front suspension on my 2006 Yamaha Attack .. night and day better handling with less pre-load on the front springs. It's rate that I ever run into anyone who can keep up with me on the trails.
Then My 10" Simmons ski dug into the top of a culver and bent my A-arms and Spindle .. I think it was Mountain Performance only had the 1.5" wider A-Arms so now my sled has a 3" wider stance and 10" wide skies.. I think they A-arms are chrome molly too. Also bent a shock badly when the plastic ski dug into the top of the Culvert. so went with Fox Air shocks .
As long as they dont end up like john deere dynamix sounds good if we can service it are self
Jan 12th
Still no snow, trails are closed. So glad I sold my sled.
We've got some good snow in Ontario right now. We're among the lucky ones...
Polaris pay snowtrax?
Good video guys. Thanks for going over the offer trail performance. I like both sleds but will be off trail more most likely as I leave from home more to go snowmobiling and usually have to make my own trails or go onto trails that are not groomed and barely anyone goes on. I am springchecking the Backcountry. Do you think the 43” front end will do well in 3 feet of powder on old mining and logging roads?
I think you're going to sacrifice a little bit in the deep stuff to get that better on-trail handling, but I think you'll still have a great time playing in the powder. Note that the 43 is also geared taller for trail riding and the 39 is geared lower for off-trail.
@ thank you for the advice.
You won't be sidehilling on logging roads, that's where the narrow front end works much better..
We just got a 25 flatland 9R you guys are right it is absolutely the greatest sled we've ever in
Are you guys bidding on the special boxed last production model of the SRX?
Where are you guys in this video. We are based out of St. Germain, WI and there isn't any snow here. We would love to trailer into CA or anywhere for that matter to get on the snow in this video. Pls advise.
East-central Saskatchewan. Swan River, Manitoba. The British Columbia Rockies are loaded. Try Fernie, BC. Only a couple days drive NW for you.
We were in West Yellowstone, Montana this past March.
@@snowtrax I was a Skibum @ Alta UT in 1983. They average 500" of snow per year of really light powder. In '83 they got 720 inches of snow 60 feet. They told me they don't ride snowmobiles in the Wasatch they just get stuck. It was about then that guys started custom building long Track sleds for riding in the Powder in the Mountains. Mountain sleds have come a long way in recent years.
I have done a lot of extreme skiing in the steep and deep but have never ridden a sled in the Mountains with exception of a half day rental near Whistler. I got yelled at for riding too fast in the first 15 minutes. I was lagging way back in last place then would speed up . I got in trouble for going off the groomed trail . We did get to ride on a open meadow or Lake with Deep Snow.. The Guide was showing me how to stand up to corner in the powder, but my legs were so burned up I could hardly walk so I just sat on the seat most of the time. It only took about 3 days for my legs to recover, but I was back in Michigan by then.
It used to take me 30 days of skiing to get my legs in great shape to ski hard core moguls and powder for the next two months. Did that for 3 winters instead of college.. Then became self employed .. Blew out my knee the last year and my knee brace would wear my calf raw after 1 days of skiing . A few years later I got a good comfortable CTI brace. I duct tape it over my ski pants and am good to go. Have worn it snowmobiling too.
I rented 4# of these vr1 650 in yellowstone last year for 10 days . Good power for what it was. it was a warm sled and handled good, hand warmers I had to program them. hard to do on the fly. My wife and kid had cold hands most of the trip ran them all the way up to the max heat still was not good enough . She found it hard to program . last day I rented a couple of Ski doo's they had one switch for low med heigh so much better. 4 strokes were buttery smother also. Real word testing no bull , Ive owned every brand.
Your not supposed to program them on the fly. The rental place should have set them up they way you wanted before you left. If you have smart warmers turned all the way up and your still getting cold hands, I dont know that theres a solution for you. They are HOT. Keep in mind also, the skidoo you rode has the old switch gear. Its far more complicated now. Still works, but theres not a single person here at snowtrax who doesnt feel the smartwarmers on the polaris are the pinnacle of heated hand/thumb warmer design.
Skidoo 4stroke hand warmers are complete trash.Will not come on at idle.Only engage while riding by then cold hands colder
I thought only 4 strokes were allowed in YELLOWSTONE, something to do with emissions
Listening to you guys makes me thinks that I can see the futur😂. Polaris, Polaris, Polaris.
30grand for a sled is absolutely stupid!!! This 💩is way out of control!!
Not cheap that's for sure.
That's why the market is collapsing.
KTM is learning this in the dirtbike world!
You buy a new sled, next year you want to renew. You eat $10k on the resale of a one year old sled!! It’s disgusting, but so is a carton of eggs at $4.00!!
Cost of Vintage 440 SM will make you blink twice.
There are many less expensive options. You don't need a new escalade to get around. But you'll have fun on a used machine too
Now you need to compare Lynx Xterrain RE 850 or 850 Turbo to the Assault 9r.....
Hello just getting into the Sport. Looking to mostly go up to Tug hill area. Im looking at a used Snowmobile to start. 2015 Polaris 800 switchback pro -s its services at a local shop in my home town. Would this be a Good snowmobile to start with. The price seams inline what i see out there. And my budget again im a Rookie to this. Thank.
Those 800 motors were not the most reliable so it depends on miles and how it was ridden
@CCH-R Thank you I appreciate it would you have any Suggestions.
@@thomasthompson4999 sleds are sleds. They can all suck😂. I ride cat I’ve had great luck. My buddy’s ride doo and poo and they have had great luck as well. We all ride 600 cc sleds though. Recommendation is buy what you want and do the basic maintenance every year. Then ride!
@CCH-R Thank you. I appreciate it
Just make sure the mileage is low. If it has over 5000 miles, it might be ready for some maintenance or a rebuild. Ask your dealer if the 800 got re-flashed. I think that fixed a lot of the issues it originally had. Lots of great insight on this thread. I'm positive the people in this community will help with some solid advice.
Where did that crossover shootout upload go? It was on this channel just a few days ago
Correct. We realized shortly after posting that it was actually missing the first 5 minutes, s o we pulled it down to fix it but we had other videos in the schedule. we intend to re-post it soon.
@@kwmiked maybe be paid actors, but they provide the best reviews for consumers, we all have different taste in riding.
@illuitok1692 If we werent paid, we'd starve. Were not paid for our opinions. Were paid to honestly evaluate. We are NOT paid to say nice things. Weve stopped caring if people believe that or not.
@@pavmentsurfer13 I didn’t say they shouldn’t get paid, if they get paid for providing opinions I’m happy for them, again, they provide the best reviews for consumers. How ever you get income is your choice. I work and I’m not complaining whether they get paid just for there opinions it’s what they are hired for. So just move along and find someone you can persuade your ideologies. I love this channel and there reviews.
'All the sled company will be out of the snowmobile bez in about 6 years, maybe a smaller size ski doo hangs on at best. ''No snow''
Why no snow?
Snow has been pretty good here in ontario canada this year. People have been riding since mid december. The snowmobile industry isnt going anywhere.
@@jongowen5374 all lightning bolts and the sun are plasma 2 stroke entities!
@pavmentsurfer13 well it's been crap on the East Coast, even New Brunswick the snow capital is not good
good review that 9r is a hot seller and amazing engine. Not worth the 30k they want for them though.
Good lord boys. Really...your so bias
Have you ridden these two sleds back to back?
I’m going to forget about a new sled. The prices make no sense. I’ll go back to basics with a mid 90s to early 2000 sled. I’ll have more fun and can work on them myself ! Enough of the greed !
hmm, I see you deleted my comment pointing out Polaris' persistent "No sell No ride" recall issues. Nice, but oh yeah, that's right, you claim you aren't biased and just give facts.
Ugh, Can't stand idiotic accusations like this. Nobody deleted your comments, bud. Are you sure you even commented on our video or was it on someone else's channel? This is all the energy I'm willing to put into this. Follow up with any kind of nonsense comment and our admin will just block you from the channel. Enjoy your day.
@@snowtrax Sorry @snowtrax I've got his back here, I saw the comment before it was deleted. Well written comment on how recalls have moved buyers away from Polaris. The comment even provided a link to Polaris recall site.
Guys, ZERO comments get deleted and I've checked out our filters and there are ZERO comments from you that got flagged.
@@snowtrax I saw it also, came back for the link to check my sled, and the comment was gone (???)
I will only ride a yamaha
I refuse to watch this as not cat
I just had a thought that both made me said and Laugh about you Communists in the Great White North. I was thinking the speed limit is very low. I did a search that told me the speed limit in Ontario is 50 KPH.. What a Joke.. Why spend Over $20,000.00 on a sled that you can't even run half throttle. If we ever get snow in SW Michigan .. I can hit 100 MPH on some of the straight aways across corn fields. I like to be a bit more conservative when I am near trees.
Speed limits. The maximum speed limit on snowmobile trails is 50 km/h, but conditions often require a slower speed. Adjust your speed to the weather and trail conditions. Alongside roads, speed limits for snowmobiles are not the same as the posted speed limits for other vehicles. Here are the limits for different paths and areas. I guess I can triple the speed limit of Ontario and go at least 162 KPH
My 2006 Yamaha Attack was reading 129 MPH on the Dreamometer that was 116 MPH on GPS and my 2014 Skidoo Renegade 800 hits the Rev Limiter at 108 MPH on GPS.. I did not know what on earth was wrong with it spitting and sputtering and cutting out. Then I got prescription glasses with bi-focals so I can read the gauges and see the overspeed warning.
We are Communists now?
@@snowtrax If you don't know how Socialist you are you have not been paying attention. The USA is not a Capitalist Country anymore, It's Cronie Capitalism. The Global Bankers, Big Pharma, Military Industrial Complex and the Health Insurance Industry own Congress, the Senate and the President. General Motors and Chrysler got Bail Outs. Seems I heard that the Canadian Tax Payers gave $500 Million to Bombardier. The American Tax payers have given $2 Billion to Tesla.
Your Car Insurance rates and required snowmobile Insurance ect are Absorbent & abhorrent. I carry a loaded handgun with me in the USA, try that in Canada. There are a few Communist States in the USA that I can't do it either.
The Forrest Fires are planned through mismanagement too .
Canada has many good snowmobile Trails but the cost of all of the Permits and Insurance is ridiculous. I don't want to spend all of that money just to get a ticket for riding over 50 KPH.
Plus I let my Passport Expire in 2020, because I never got the Experimental Clot Shot that causes Super Cancer. Most batches were inert but others were deadly .
I can hit over 100mph on straightaways on lakes all day long. We have a lake thats over 7 miles long. We also have lots of cornfield trails. Im not recommending riding over the speed limit. But lets be honest, 50kmh is ridiculous. But lakes are unrestricted. Nothing like holding a turbo to the bars for 5 straight minutes.
“Polaris takes the win”, 🤔
Great video 💯 but this comment is about what you call "motor" it's an internal combustion engine! Not an electric motor! 😮😅😂
Yup, you know as well as we do that the term "motor" has been used synonimously with engines since the ICE was invented. We sometimes call ATVs bikes when we do reviews on DIRT TRAX, but you guys still know what we're talking about. Every now and again we're gonna say motor so I hope you guys can live with it. 👍
Motor mounts
Motor oil?
Ah, thank you semantics man! You saved the day! Now, you, grammar nazi, and spelling twat. Can go find a new video to save!!
Your a special kind of smart aren't you!
Your profile pic even has a MOTORcycle in it.
Maybe its just me but Ski doos are the ugliest sleds on the snow!.
it's just you
@ElmerBixBixby whatever....there isn't anything about the front of that sled that says this is a good looking sled. Out of all the brands I personally rank them last on appearance.