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@@saraoborn101 Watch, the Mythasaur is going to emerge from the depths on Mandalore in the midst of a battle right beneath Grogu, causing him to ride it, and he's accidentally going to be Manda'lore. Everyone shall bow down. 😂
I saw her as merciful. Merciful to the audience who were bored to tears hearing about a weasley doctor's social life and wanted to get back to the good story.
One of my favorite things about this show is how Din really is, in the grand scheme of things, a nobody. No major connections, no real “Destiny”, he’s kinda just a guy. Like, sure, Luke was a nobody, but we eventually learned that he was Vader’s son. I really think Din has no major connections to reveal, he’s just a simple man making his way through the galaxy with his kid, and I think that’s a good thing, makes it feel more special and unique in a weird kind of way, at least to me.
Being a nobody has the advantage of not having to meet the expectations of others. Children of kings, nobles and large business owners are expected to take on the large responsibility as heirs. A nobody like Din is free to travel and have their own adventures. Most likely Din will forfeit the right to rule Mandalore and continue his adventure with Grogu.
@freebird6591 Last episode Din has said he'd never been to Mandalore to Grogu. He was saved by Desth Watch from a planet during TCW and was brought and raised on Concordia, a moon of Mandalore where Death Watch resided
See, I agree that in terms of bloodline, Din is nobody. But where I think they’re going with him is that he becomes *the* Mandalorian. The example, the avatar, the epitome of what a Mandalorian *should* be. But Bo-Katan will be the political leader. I think they’re doing a Luke and Leia thing: one of them is the big damn hero, the icon, the figurehead, who wants nothing to do with power. The other is roughly-equal capability, but clever and with more leadership ability and the inclination to use it. With both of them, you check all the boxes for a major revolution. ETA: and then there’s Grogu, the hard-to-feel-out wildcard that’s ultimately a good dude (Han Solo, lol) ETA 2: I just made myself think… Greef is the Lando, trusted ally with his own small, independent power. The Armorer is the Yoda-style “master” character. R5 is an R2/3PO mashup. It’s not the same, but it rhymes.
I think he is too. We have no idea what the machine will do. Also, everything might have been a setup for the woman officer. I don't believe they wouldn't have surveillance on everyone in the amnesty program.
@@Luke-cu7bf I mean... it definitely is. Writers (good ones anyway) don't just put scenes into their story for no reason at all. Every scene means something and should be accomplishing something, or ideally, many somethings. In this case, the scene shows us their growing relationship while also hinting at something more sinister underneath it.
@@jjc5871 Definitely not. This isn't even that crazy. This kind of stuff is expected to be in any level of storytelling above the mediocre. Just because it flew over your head doesn't mean everyone else is "reading too far into shit."
I feel like the only person that could have that many T.I.E Interceptors, is Thrawn. Considering Purgils also showed up in Ep 1, I feel like there is a strong possibility that Thrawn will make he return.
Lacking the means to continue his pet project Fighter, yeah he'd equip himself with as advanced a fighter as the empire could trouble itself to produce 'en masse'..
Was seriously annoyed that six Interceptors were beat that easily. Those pilots lived through the insurgency, the war and then the remnant years and they barely did anything to two ships. No way they'd lose like that.
@@Sangth123 We know Din is a good pilot and he has the ship to respond to his skills. And Bo is just the best Mando warrior, so will be great at everything including flying. No biggie for me, though TIE Interceptors are my fave ship in all Star Wars.
Well, she kinda had to since Imperial sympathizers launched a smear campaign against her by making the knowledge that she is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader's daughter public (especially focusing on the Vader part), essentially destroying her military/political career. At least I think that's what happened.
@Twilight_Lupine Silva Yeah, but it was a saveable position. She was a hero of the rebellion, practically ran it, she could've bounced back. Though I'd like to think after a while she took one look at how the New Republic was shaping up and decided it wasn't worth it. She just noped the F out. Said bye Felica. Took her ball and went home.
Babies first words are often words they hear a lot , thats why a lot of them say NO alot cuz parents chase them around going NO NO , LOL! In Grogu's case, it would be cool if it was This is the Way since he does hear it a lot . When it happens , the reaction shot of the Mandos will be the BEST !!
@@davidmacy411 would make zero sense and just proves yall only watched the movies.. Yoda is literally the only one of his species who talked that way, all other known members of that species talked normally.
I feel like there is no shot Pershing remembers anything useful after what Elia did. She had no interest in using him after the fact. She basically killed him in my eyes. She is still acting on Gideon’s orders I think.
@@Flufferz626 Nah this is gideon, thrawn *SPOILERS* for ahoska... Thrawn is a new area in star wars called the "New Beyond" where Thrawn and Erza have been this entire time.
In my opinion I think that was the point. To keep the New Rebublic from using his work or finding out what the Empire was using his work to accomplish. I also think it was a bit of payback for betraying Gideon.
Just FYI; 1. This episode was a great juxtaposition of the nuances between the First Order and New Republic . Things aren't always so black and white. Tarkin hooked Crosshair up to one of those; "Mind Flayers" in The Bad Batch, too. 2. They were cataloging and documenting, (and saving inside their new Republic database,) whatever pertinent information contained within the Imperial tech before sending it off to be destroyed. I mean, that's literally what Dr. Pershing's job was. 3. Plus; the thing with his ear, that's the ear that was nearly blown off when Cara Dune shot the Imperial pilot in the face, in the season two finale. It's fairly easy to imagine some lingering effects, which is also a pretty good demonstration of their attention to detail. (In my opinion.)
I’m wondering if with seeing the Mythosaur and the creed being so accepting of her even without the dark saber will make Bo Katan stick to their customs. When they were welcoming into the creed it was such a contrast to her being alone in her home after being abandoned by her so called “followers”. I also find it funny she calls Mandos group “religious zealots” when her group literally abandoned her cuz she doesn’t officially own a legendary sword that’s suppose to be magic lmao
I thought she sees them as zealots because they are the remnants of the terrorist group deathwatch. I think the point of the mythosaur was to introduce a way for her to regain leadership without the need of the darksaber.
I think she was thinking "Wait a second screw the darksaber maybe if I can somehow tame that big creature in the living waters they will all come flocking to me""
I love the contrast between Bo's large ornate, but empty Castle filled with history and the legacy of her familly, but now empty except for her, and the isolated, primative cave filled with Mandalorians who accepted her into their ranks as an equal, I think seeing the last chain to her past destroyed and being welcomed to a new different type of mandolarion culture, along with seeing a mythosaur will push Bo into pursuing a future of mandalorians united under their old symbold the dark saber and mythosaur but in a new and more united direction, and i can't wait to see it.
They are *flexing* with the dog-fight choreography this season - three episodes in and they've had two of my favorite fighter sequences in all of Star Wars. (I might be a bit biased, TIE Interceptors and Mandalorian Gauntlets are both among my favorite ships.) This episode felt like it could be a gateway drug into Andor, and I mean that as a compliment. Really looking forward to seeing more of Katy O'Brian / Elia Kane in particular (although this episode puts the kibosh on my long-shot hope that they'd say Cara Dune took that polyjuice potion they used on Obi-Wan in The Clone Wars and was going under-cover as O'Brian's character so she could just take over the role lol).
@@dqixsoss7436 i agree with both of you; the tone was similar, although I also agree the quality wasn’t up there with Andor (but like… that’s a HIGH standard). The tone was similar in that it was a anthological human story with adult themes told in the Star Wars universe. Although it’s not Andor quality, this story was miles ahead of the rest of the season so far.
even tho the quality wasn't on Andor's level, the story itself did remind me of that show simply becuz of how Kane manipulated Pershing and scapegoated him to advance her career which is a tactic highlighted in scenes from Andor depicting life inside the Empire.
One thing I think about the communications officer she might have been getting revenge. Dr. Pershing is the one who helped mando and Bo take the Moff’s cruiser. Where they basically murdered the whole crew before Luke showed up.
or maybe she decided to throw her former comrade to the wolves to rise in rank as Amnesty Officer to gain more trust within the NR so she has more time to loot the decommissioned destroyers herself. that type of backstabbery definitely aint beneath the imperial mindset
This episode made me appreciate the writing in Andor even more, but I still enjoyed it and am looking forward to seeing where the season goes from here. I was half expecting to see Mon Mothma in this episode. She is the Chancellor as this time right? But then I remembered that she'd probably be on Hosnian Prime instead of Coruscant. Sidenote, how cool would it be to see Hosnian Prime in live action?
Bo-Katan being accepted by the Children of the Watch so easily is the same as Maul being accepted by Death Watch when he took it over. She's going to divide and conquer.
@@drewwar9344 Din won it fair and square but him removing his helmet, going against the creed, was enough to cast him out. Maul never wore a helmet, he came to leadership and ruled through power. Winning the darksaber was an easy way to seize power and implement his plan to draw out the emperor. He killed anyone that spoke against him and drove away people like Bo soon enough. The cult is simple, follow the creed and you are one of us. Go against the creed and you aren't.
I saw the parallel too. She's going to attempt to become the leader of the Children of the Watch in order to regain power. Sort of like what Maul did with Death Watch which she had opposed all those years ago. But I think, if you ask me, in a much more moral and agreeable way than what Maul did.
I think Elia Kane just simply wanted to torture and mind flay people because that is what she miss the most from the Empire days, and she certainly found a way.
I like the foreshadowing with the light up ice pop's giving a hint that she was bad with her eating the red ice pop while the newly converted professor had a blue one
I find it poignant that Pershing being betrayed on today's date, 15 March, also known as the Ides of March, which is all about betrayal and misfortune.
The ides of March was a religious day in the Roman calendar that was a day to “settle debts” appropriate for Julius Caesar and punishing Pershing for betraying moff
The more I watch this show the more I wish the sequel trilogy never happened. So I didn't just think, oh the New Republic doesn't matter, cause when the First Order is a thing everyone against them is back to "the rebels" in tiny little groups with no united front or galactic government of any kind. Also Coruscant just gets unceremoniously blown up in like a 30 second scene along with a bunch of other planets, so it's not like they took the seat of power there, it was just another target. I can't even see how they built something the size of Starkiller base unless it's already started by now, not long after the Death Stars were destroyed, so how many of these doomsday weapons were just built over and over in parallel? Even that feels like a stretch. Would just be nice if everything after this stuff was yet to be discovered, not a trilogy made by a bunch of different people with no set roadmap laid out before it was started.
I think "Taungsday" is my favorite part of this episode; the fact that they have a day of the week named for the ancient race that would become the Mandalorians is amazing (and it's very likely that the average citizen doesn't even know that that's what the name means)
Just like most people in our world don't realize Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday are named after the Norse dieties Tyr, (W)Odin, Thor, and Freya.
In the world of Anime, "Filler" is used to describe original content produced to fulfill broadcast schedule. If the anime is based off a manga or other material, and the anime is catching up to the source material, filler episodes are used to ensure there will always be an episode come airtime. Filler is NOT anytime the focus shifts away from the main character. Based off everything we've seen so far, we're seeing this part of the Star Wars universe because it'll have relevance later on in the show: It's setup for future developments.
The crew had some especially strange takeaways/interpretations on this reaction, particularly Calvin & Aaron. But one thing the gang totally nailed was their interpretation of filler. This episode was absolutely not filler, and anyone who actually does think so is wrong.
Theory: Thrawn was the one with the massive imperial fleet. We haven’t seen a fleet that big since the original movies which makes me think this isn’t just some officer. Their plan was also pretty good. Draw Bo away from her home with the interceptor, bomb her home and use the bombers to lure them into a bigger fleet.
What fleet? All she says is "thats alot of ships for an imperial warlord" but there are no ships? Just TIE fighters which I hope she wasn't referring to the TIE's? This episode was weird.
@@SonfordsGameCorner I don’t think it’s weird at all. Gideon didn’t really have much ships to use in combat but now there is a new imperial presence popping up with several ships. I’d assume Bo meant she hasn’t seen that many ships just casually out, usually they’d be near a bigger ship or base.
I can't believe that the nerdiest of reaction channels: Blind Wave and Preview'd just couldn't figure out Dr Pershing's 'ear touching.' It was because when Car Dune shot the Imp pilot in the face, half of Dr Pershing's ear got lazed! It's healed or healed it, but not completely. So whenever he becomes nervous he touches it
Wow, I was NOT expecting a betrayal at all! I don't remember her much, but she seemed nice and they actually seemed like they had a crush on each other! People were acting like it was obvious but I don't remember her but she seemed really nice and it came out of nowhere!
i thought it was obvious because in the opening flashback it showed her to give context which i thought was weird but her smiling at the scientist enjoying stuff is what threw me off entirely as soon as i saw that i changed my mind instantly and thought she was actually redeemed but damn
Looks like we 2 storylines now with the world building from this episode, the rise of the true leader for Mandalore AND the cloning project with Moff Gideon/Thrawn
@@MattSimon1 Same where they played the theme from the opera scene referencing Palpatine, when Pershing decided to get the cloning tech, as thats where this will inevitably lead. Got chills when I heard it, it was well done.Was hoping they'd pick it up, or their rubbish editors would show it, but it was too much to ask. Glad Eric picked up on it though.
… I’m sorry but I really didn’t care for this episode. I don’t think coruscant looked good in the Volume; I don’t think the acting or writing was good besides Pershing; I think this episode could’ve been cut in half at worst because it dragged and the relevant bit was obvious and safe and could’ve been resolved quicker.
Corsuscant looked the best its ever looked. As for the ep itself, I enjoyed it, it was a nice change of pace and sets things up for the remainder of the eps.
@@shugaroony I’m sure this episode will be important later and obviously the point of it was to get Pershing back into the Imperials’ clutches. But that was transparently obvious from the beginning so we didn’t need to spend the whole episode on it. Hard disagree about Coruscant, it looked millions of years better in Andor.
The craziest part for her is the fact that the "Crazy Cult" she hated, immediately accepted her as one of them. I think it's showing that Dins way of doing things works
But at the same time, this group of people will also IMMEDIATELY turn on anyone that goes against their rules. Din followed the group for his entire left, only for them to completely cast him out the SECOND he revealed he took off his helmet. That's what a cult does. I'm honestly not sure how we're meant to view them at this point, in a positive light or something else. It's great that Bo-Katan has found a new group of people, but not great that this group can be seem as just taking advantage of her and her vulnerable state.
@@leonardoa5201 I wouldn't say they turn on someone who breaks their rules. Sure, they don't consider him a part of their group anymore, but Din was still somewhat welcome and they never acted agressively.
This whole idea that the Children of the Watch immediately accept people is bogus. Din threatened to kill Cobb Vanth because he didn’t fit the parameters of a mandalorian in his eyes. If they didn’t come to an agreement in which Cobb gives the armor back, they would’ve fought. In S2E3, Din says the Nite Owls are not Mandalorian, thus they shouldn’t be allowed to wear their armor as they had no intention of bathing in the living waters. Kind of a plot hole now that Filoni/Favreau are trying to reframe the children of the watch.
I heard a theory which will make the Armorer / Bo relationship far more interesting is that she could be Bo's other sister. Just for the record Emily Swallow does have some significant resemblance to Katee.
You say you heard this somewhere? Meanwhile I'm just cooking up theories of my own. That Bo is secretly the Armorer's daughter. And that there might be bad blood, at least from Bo's position. -She only talked about her father, and very highly at that. No mention has been made of the mother. It's possible the mother was more extreme and left for Concordia. Leaving Bo feeling bitter. -Emily Swallow (Armorer's VA), with her hair dyed platinum would bare a fitting enough resemblance to Satine. -She does not hold any sense of reverence to Bo's family history with Mandalore, and even seemed as close as she likely gets to being insistent on Bo joining the covert. Bo's reaction to her could be due to Bo simply not recognizing her. Obviously I'm not putting a ton of stock into this since it's a theory built in the negative space of information, but still it's mine.
@Flufferz626 But did you forget in clone wars it was shown that Duchess and bo having nephew Corey was his name He was in a couple episodes but the 1st time he appeared was the mandalorian tea poisoning story arc with asoka
The effects on this show is nuts . I remember seeing Episode 2 several times when it came out , and Couresant didn't look this good ...amazing. I wonder if these two story lines will eventually intersect . The Empire remnants start something and the New Republic ends up needing Mandalorians to help , which would be a sweet piece of revenge considering what the Empire did to their planet. I think Bo is playing the long game, especially now that her home is rubble. Din will have her back cuz she's saved him several times and helped him get redeemed. This is going to be really interesting!!!
The mando parts of this episode were really good and I found it really interesting how Bo didn't say anything about the Mythosaur but I wasn't surprised. It's kind of like saying in real life that you saw a dinosaur, like "those are extinct", "no way you saw one" type of thing.
The scene being attacked in space and re-entering the planet, just shows her greatness and ability. And the (Naboo N1 Starfighter) by din djarin, it's spectacular...
Thrawn is coming .. would've been dope to see a tie defender Maybe we will in the future..lol I think it's a good thing she doesn't tell anybody about the creature ,, If you think about it the Empire and Pirates are going to want that creature... for now it's safe if she doesn't open her mouth... I felt like this was an odd episode ,, Half of it felt like Andor .. Obviously my favorite parts Of the episode is the ship battling... But yeah Mando falling in the water was all to get Bo Katan in the water also...lol
Loved it. I didn't trust that woman from the get go. I hope the New Republic doesn't think she is so great and suspect her. The one guy was like - I didn't realize you were part of Gideon's crew. Bo Katan a child of the watch. LOL. This is not filler. A side quest with pirates would be filler. The stuff with Pershing is a plot point.
The part where the 2 bombers are getting away and we see all those Tie Interceptors showing up on screen gave me some STRONG Aliens vibes when Hicks and Ripley were trying to save Newt from the water and his motion tracker just went, "Hey ya'll should probably run."
34:55 I'm a little surprised so many reactors missed this, but really surprised you guys did because you take such good notes. In "The Rescue" when Cara shot the pilot who was holding Pershing as a shield, the bolt was evidently close enough to his face to cause him injury, too. In the following scenes, you can see that his ear is burnt and it's bleeding. Obviously bacta healed it, but yeah, when he's pulling at his ear like that, he's either remembering how close he came to death at the NR's hands, or he's remembering how the Empire he served was willing to sacrifice him -- and his all-important research -- to save their own necks. Honestly, so much of the way the NR did things in the new canon (or rather, JJ Abrams' vision of it) makes no sense. To completely demilitarize is the kind of stupid mistake I would never expect from leaders as smart as Mon Mothma and Leia, especially when both of them are persuasive enough to talk the senate out of such an idiotic move. And in a version of the GFFA where Operation Cinder exists, the idea of taking in any Imps who were still serving after Cinder is just stupid. Cinder was the thing that separated the truly loyal, fanatical Imps from the ones who were serving a government that they thought was doing good things in the galaxy. Just like Alderaan getting blown up turned a lot of people to the Rebellion, Cinder turned lots of troops and citizens against the Empire. So anyone who was still serving this late in the game is truly in it to win it, and like the officer last season who committed suicide rather than be taken alive. No damn way was Kane ever redeemed; she is a double agent all the way, and I'm damn sure she is still working for Gideon and she probably helped aid his escape.
it was SOO cool seeing Coruscant again. and it was my sinking fear throughout this episode that Dr. Pershing befriended Elia Kane so he could trap her as a test subject for his research experiments. i was soo focused on his eventual betrayal that i didn't see the dark plot twist of Elia Kane betraying and imprisoning Dr. Pershing instead. great episode.
I dont think Bo Katan is going to challenge Din. She has taken the darksaber without winning it and had it turn out HORRIBLY. She's not going to accept it on a technicality, like i said for last episode, this isn't harry potter. She isn't the darksabers owner because she beat the eyeball thing. Din has tried to just give it to her already, she has no reason to believe he wouldn't throw the fight. I think they are going towards a dual leadership type thing, if she can "tame" the mythosaur in some way (I think reopening the mine will be "taming" the mythosaur) then she is on par in status with the darksaber owner. Din can continue to be his badass self showing the rest of the galaxy the way while he does his thing and she remains on mandalor being their leader. Possibility of a romantic thing but im not sure how that would mesh with Din's persona, the one possible romantic connection we've seen he turned away because it would be settling down and abandoning his quest.
If they had included the cooperation seen in Dunkirk for the dogfight (e.g. something like "pulling right on my mark, 1, 2, 3, mark" *BAM BAM BAM*), I would've asked for that scene to be injected directly into my veins.
Also, I don't think she was trying to wipe his memory, because he's not new here. He's already been through the re-integration center. I'm sure he's already spilled ALL the beans about what the Empire was doing. This was personal. She wanted to torture him for being a traitor to the Empire.
It's really interesting to see how a ton of people interpreted Elia's motives differently. I saw some people say she erased Dr Pershing's memory for the New Republic cause, like following their orders. I saw some people say she did it for the Empire. That she betrayed Pershing, now that she didn't. To me, Elia on s2 seemed super loyal to Moff Gideon, so I'd tend to believe that she infiltrated the Amnesty program to either help save him (Gideon) or sent by Gideon (who would have the escaped like said at the beginning of the episode) to get rid of Pershing. On the other hand, I never saw Pershing really into the Empire. Like, more like a collaborator than a full-on n*zi if we have to do the comparison. And the Empire was just using him, like they used Jin's father on Rogue One for example, and they wouldn't mind getting rid of him to erase their traces if he serves no use to them anymore. That's how I read the episode, personally, Elia has infiltrated the New Republic, maybe only to get to Pershing, or maybe for more reasons than that, and she's taken Pershing's researches (to have them destroyed? To give them back to Gideon at some point?) and she got rid of Pershing, and that's it. Because if we gotta be honest, when would she have a real opportunity to join the Amnesty Program? Like sure, she was on Gideon's ship when Mando and the crew attacked at the end of s2, but does that mean then, that Cara brought the whole ship to the cops, and not just Moff Gideon, then? And contrary to Pershing, Elia never showed any hesitation in her loyalty towards Gideon in the screentime she had on s2 so idk, I feel like the end with the biscuit implied that she was still Imperial.
yup definitely. Personally when I saw her in s2 I immediately got the vibes that she loved her job a bit too much and remembered her because of that. As soon as I saw her in this episode I knew she was here to get rid of dr Pershing... She´s Empire all the way
I think it's funny because yesterday I straight up asked my friend "Do you think Bo Katan deserves a redemption arc?" And he flat out said "No." And now...now it feels like she's on her way there. But I hope the next episode actually mentions something about Death Watch because how did Din go from being rescued by Death Watch troopers to....being raised by another faction.
While I really like Bo as a character (and love Katee obviously), I feel this in my bones lol. Both me and my dad, who watched all of TCW and Rebels, did the monkey meme side-eye to each other when Bo was going on about Mandos senselessly killing each other for reasons beyond understanding. [SPOILERS AHEAD!] Certainly an interesting critique coming from the same person who helped enact a coup against her peace-loving sister. 😂 Anyways, we now have a running bet over whether Bo is finally experiencing some self-reflection or just living in a whole different galaxy mentally than the rest of us. Rooting for her to get her shit together lol.
@@drewwar9344 Hit send prematurely cuz I was laughing too hard, sorry for the double reply. I wasn't even disparaging coups to begin with. I specifically referenced Bo waxing maudlin over Mandalorians killing each other needlessly when she herself helped orchestrate a very violent coup against her own sister, whose literal goal was to stop the fighting. Girl skipped hypocrisy and went straight to gaslighting herself at lightspeed. That being said, two things: 1. I like Bo as a character. A lot. She's a badass and smooth af, even taking her early onset dementia into account. (Such as demanding to know where Din was when Mandalore fell, considering he was - what, like NINE at the time? And not even a foundling yet, if I'm getting the timeline right lol.) 2. If you believe the Dutchess made Mandalorians weak, that's fine. I have nothing to argue and don't even disagree, really. But it has nothing to do with my original comment whatsoever. Keep on keepin' on. ✌😊
This was legit my favorite episode of this entire series so far. The fan service in season 2 was a blast, but the worldbuilding and development on both sides of the narrative in this episode was next level, I thought. The Coruscant stuff had serious Andor vibes. Truly tremendous episode, I thought.
This episode was the perfect mix between Andor and Mandalorian, and I LOVED IT. Star Wars desperately needs this type of world building… The same type that only Clone Wars gave us, it’s soooo damn good. I’m so excited to see where this goes next ❤
Bo Katan is absolutely going to double-cross Din. She’s not actually converting, she’s in “observation” mode and is waiting for her moment to ride the mythosaur and get the Darksaber. Din is going to reject her as leader, and become an outcast.
I think that THE Mandalorian of this show is right now Din, BUT it's creating The path to Grogu being the one. I'd like Bo to tame the Mythosaur and Din to keep the dark saber, and in years in the future, Grogu gets both, since his species outlive them by centuries, I think we will eventually follow Grogu's life in Star wars carrying the ways of the jedi and the mandalorians.
This show may be the beggining of something that we've never seen before in Star Wars. I think we are gonna see something like Doctor Who, ykwim? Years and years and years of many aventure-se with a main character, being this one Grogu. Asokah, Mando and Boba shows maybe are just the beginning. Maybe we will follow Grogu through the main future stories in Star Wars universe, instead of new movies, but when it comes to the past, before episode 1, we could see new shows with new characters, in Old Republic and stuff. Even Yoda, imagine we follow both, Yoda until the events of the movies, and maybe we will see some connection between Yoda and Grogu through both characters stories. Maaaan, my mind is going wild LOL. That's one thing that I like about all of this
I can't see Grogu using the dark saber given that Grogu's species simply do not grow and that sword is way to big for him, so unless they literally cut it in half, then I can see it happening
A lot of people have been complaining about this episode online because of the lack of Mandalorian, but I enjoyed the worldbuilding and getting to see what the New Republic is.
i 100% agree with Eric on what filler is. most people these days definitely dont use it right. if it's just about character development, people will say it's filler because it doesn’t move the story along. if it's about a story that doesn’t necessarily pertain to the main overall plot, people will call that filler. If it focuses on anyone but the main character, people will call it filler. _they are all wrong._ character development and side plots are almost never filler, especially if it changes something or someone in some way, even if that someone is not a main character.
*We got 2 episodes for the price of one!* The half with Dr. Pen Pershing and Elia Kane was VERY intriguing. I actually did believe at the end that Elia had Pen’s back but then she upped the voltage on that mind flayer and then just stared at him with those scary ass eyes. My theory is that she is trying to break Pen’s faith in the New Republic by making it seem like they are torturing him while she takes advantage of his naïveté. Omid Abtahi and Katy O’Brian definitely stole the show this episode. I hope they get more roles out of this. Also Pershing is sadly the most vulnerable and tragic type of scientist, the kind that loves the science and wants to use it for good but gets manipulated into having their research used for evil purposes. As for Din and Bo, now that Bo is essentially homeless and Din has redeemed himself in the eyes of his sect of Mandalorians I’m very interested in seeing where he goes from here. And Bo has now been “redeemed” since she has also bathed in the living waters (which I’m very curious about those waters because that glow was very alarming) and since she is now back with a new clan what’s her next move? I honestly think she isn’t telling anyone about the Mythosaur because she doesn’t entirely believe herself. It would be like you you saw a woolly mammoth, no one would really believe you! Also some Fun Facts on Katy O’Brian: she’s a lifelong martial artist who then became a cop, who then became a bodybuilder, who then became an actress. And as she has said on twitter and Instagram (where she posts tons of pics of her crazy toned body and of her wife) she is a massive dork. I think I’m in love 😍.
Her Wookiepedia page says that every time she entered the scene on Gideon's cruiser she was walking to the beat of the 'Imperial March' which she had playing on loop in her mind.
I've watched several reactions and one thing that keeps being brought up is how the amnesty program uses numbers instead of names. I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing. A lot of people in their situation might not want to use their real names in public due to retaliation, blackmail, etc.
If it was a detail those in the program chose for themselves, then I would agree. But to me it was pretty clear it wasn't by choice. And even then, they could simply go by a different name. The reason it's so abysmal and A Very Bad Sign™️ is because stripping a living person of their identity and reducing them to a number (or statistic) is horrifically dehumanizing. You're erasing their personhood. Most notably, this was an infamous method of cataloging Jewish prisoners in internment camps, used by the Nazis. They viewed Jewish people as being subhuman and would forcibly tattoo numbers into their arms like branding livestock. Any time a government body or organization seeks to assign a number to its citizens, it's considered a humongous red flag for this very reason (among many others similar in outcome). Your confusion seemed genuine, so my intention isn't to dogpile you here, in case that's the impression I'm giving. Just answering sincerely in kind. I know tone can be lost over the ol' interwebs. 💜
@elliemuze No problem with the info, and I know all of the history involved with that type of processing of people. I was just saying that it might not be for the same reason in this case. I personally would not want my name used in public if I had done some horrendous things that I was trying to make up for. To protect both myself and maybe family. We are judging a program based on very little evidence. I would like to think that once people were done with the program, then they could use their name or choose a new one if they wanted to.
@@glittermasterofarrakis6730 Oh, that I did understand from your original comment for sure - that it was done with a different (or less vile) intention. What the Nazis did is perhaps the most extreme example of such a practice, but the practice itself is historically of ill repute for a reason, regardless of how noble the intentions behind it are. I should have clarified that better. And I agree that they'd want to pass under the radar, no doubt, but being reduced to a number still very much wasn't a choice they themselves made. That, plus every other contextual clue such as habitual automated interactions with the non-emotive droid instead of a living person and forced invasive procedures are all huge red flags in real life as well as fiction. That is, if rehabilitation is actually the desired outcome, which the New Republic is claiming to be the case. (Though we do know the First Order lurks beneath the surface at this point, too, and have perhaps already infiltrated various branches of government.) TLDR: The majority of what we witnessed on screen in terms of the Amnesty Program are all massive red flags in the real world in terms of humane treatment, psychological studies, statistics, and relevant sociological experiments. Regardless how sincere their intentions may be, they've thus far broken just about every moral code of ethics in the book. All on the first episode of its showcase lol. The showrunners/writers, imo, portrayed this program and its unnerving lack of merits in a very deliberate light. But that's my own observation, and it's very interesting to see what each individual takes away from it. (Also, "GlitterMaster" is a superb name. I don't know the context, but 12/10. 👏 Haven't seen the new Dune yet, but my brain is associating Arrakis with it. Rip to my nerd badge if I'm way off base and many apologies. 😛💜)
Bo-katan does not need the dark saber anymore. If she can ride the mythosaur she can truly rule mandalor that’s why she’s not telling din Why should he have both?
After seeing this episode myself first, I was just *staring* at Eric, waiting for him to pick up on the music in this episode Super interesting uses of the Resistance theme and the theme similar to the Plagueis opera theme
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, for pushing back against the way in which people use the term “filler”. I cannot remember at this point the last time I’ve actually seen someone use it correctly in a comment. It’s exhausting seeing people refer to stuff as filler that is still development but just not development they’re interested in.
Love the "Blessing's be with you" comment it did feel like that. note on the Pershing ear thing that ear was damaged by Cara's shot so i think its a tic of touching an old wound during a turning moment from the empire. Also are we going to get a Bo/Din training moment wit the darksaber? Bo's commitment to earning it honorably could mean he would need to be better with it?
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i thought when he was diving mid air he would pull out the dark saber and slice one of those thais
She is definitely working for the First Order, cloning equipment for Sidious' return
This takes "Come to the dark side! We have cookies!" to another level.
OH MY GOD
The yellow biscuits looked like Scottish Shortbread. I would certainly consider the dark side for Scottish Shortbread!
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@@ThanatoselNyx cant wait for Binging with Babish to make them.
Hahahaha c’mon kid I have cookies in this u marked van
Bo-Katan accidentally being redeemed is so funny to me
Both she and Penn Pershing are “The Convert”
Saw that coming. She is going to fracture Din's group. She wants power, but deserves to die.
Din accidentally becoming Manda’lore and Bo accidentally being redeemed is funny to me 😂
@@hellfish2309 Yep!
@@saraoborn101 Watch, the Mythasaur is going to emerge from the depths on Mandalore in the midst of a battle right beneath Grogu, causing him to ride it, and he's accidentally going to be Manda'lore. Everyone shall bow down. 😂
You gotta be heartless if you're eating another man's biscuit while watching his mind being turned to bacon 👀😱
I think having her eating the Imperial biscuit while watching the "not mindflayer" do its thing is a nod that she's still loyal to the Empire.
@@Gripen047 Also her stepping into the shadows when he asked what she'd wanted to be when she was young.
Space Nazi one o one.
no popcorn so best option xD
I saw her as merciful. Merciful to the audience who were bored to tears hearing about a weasley doctor's social life and wanted to get back to the good story.
The way he says "...I am redeemed" after waking up from fainting the second time that day made me laugh uncontrollably
I personally found R5 tipping over repeatedly it just as amusing
like yeah you almost fucking died too
@@darthjarjar2742 he literally ‘fainted’ when he fell back in the ship and slid passed Grogu 😂
Same. Silly zealot!
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One of my favorite things about this show is how Din really is, in the grand scheme of things, a nobody. No major connections, no real “Destiny”, he’s kinda just a guy. Like, sure, Luke was a nobody, but we eventually learned that he was Vader’s son. I really think Din has no major connections to reveal, he’s just a simple man making his way through the galaxy with his kid, and I think that’s a good thing, makes it feel more special and unique in a weird kind of way, at least to me.
You never know he could be a descendant of some ancient Mandalorian leader that type of shit
@@xfatoushe-6908 i thought he was adopted from some battle torn planet. Or maybe the planet was Mandalore, cant fully remember.
Being a nobody has the advantage of not having to meet the expectations of others. Children of kings, nobles and large business owners are expected to take on the large responsibility as heirs. A nobody like Din is free to travel and have their own adventures. Most likely Din will forfeit the right to rule Mandalore and continue his adventure with Grogu.
@freebird6591 Last episode Din has said he'd never been to Mandalore to Grogu. He was saved by Desth Watch from a planet during TCW and was brought and raised on Concordia, a moon of Mandalore where Death Watch resided
See, I agree that in terms of bloodline, Din is nobody. But where I think they’re going with him is that he becomes *the* Mandalorian. The example, the avatar, the epitome of what a Mandalorian *should* be. But Bo-Katan will be the political leader.
I think they’re doing a Luke and Leia thing: one of them is the big damn hero, the icon, the figurehead, who wants nothing to do with power. The other is roughly-equal capability, but clever and with more leadership ability and the inclination to use it. With both of them, you check all the boxes for a major revolution.
ETA: and then there’s Grogu, the hard-to-feel-out wildcard that’s ultimately a good dude (Han Solo, lol)
ETA 2: I just made myself think… Greef is the Lando, trusted ally with his own small, independent power. The Armorer is the Yoda-style “master” character. R5 is an R2/3PO mashup. It’s not the same, but it rhymes.
This episode was definitely intriguing. This tells me that Pershing is very important this season
Is he though? Will his brain be intact after this episode?
@@captin3149 I mean, isn't this just the perfect tie-in for Ahsoka to search his mind like Luke did to Grogu and find details about the cloning?
I think he is too. We have no idea what the machine will do. Also, everything might have been a setup for the woman officer. I don't believe they wouldn't have surveillance on everyone in the amnesty program.
@@glittermasterofarrakis6730 I REALLY hope so. I hate to think that the New Republic is THAT inept....
Did you not watch the last 10 minutes?
The carnival version of the Resistance theme was something I didn’t know I needed
Didn’t even know it was a rendition of that theme. That’s awesome
Are you commenting this everywhere
you are commenting this under all reaction channels?
@@getsomebud not all. Only three videos. I just think it’s a neat easter egg that most people won’t catch
@@hamzaliaqat1731 not all. Only three videos. I just think it’s a neat easter egg that most people won’t catch
I love how the woman tricking Pershing into touching the rock and getting in trouble for it foreshadows the later betrayal.
y'all think anything is foreshadowing....
@@Luke-cu7bf everything is intentional in writing and film…
@@Luke-cu7bf I mean... it definitely is. Writers (good ones anyway) don't just put scenes into their story for no reason at all. Every scene means something and should be accomplishing something, or ideally, many somethings. In this case, the scene shows us their growing relationship while also hinting at something more sinister underneath it.
@@hdns4 And that’s just reading far into shit.
@@jjc5871 Definitely not. This isn't even that crazy. This kind of stuff is expected to be in any level of storytelling above the mediocre. Just because it flew over your head doesn't mean everyone else is "reading too far into shit."
I feel like the only person that could have that many T.I.E Interceptors, is Thrawn. Considering Purgils also showed up in Ep 1, I feel like there is a strong possibility that Thrawn will make he return.
That man was ALL OVER better versions of T.I.E fighters, I feel like itd fit if he had all those more better upgraded TIEs, the interceptors
Lacking the means to continue his pet project Fighter, yeah he'd equip himself with as advanced a fighter as the empire could trouble itself to produce 'en masse'..
Was seriously annoyed that six Interceptors were beat that easily. Those pilots lived through the insurgency, the war and then the remnant years and they barely did anything to two ships. No way they'd lose like that.
@@Sangth123 We know Din is a good pilot and he has the ship to respond to his skills. And Bo is just the best Mando warrior, so will be great at everything including flying. No biggie for me, though TIE Interceptors are my fave ship in all Star Wars.
@Sangth no one said these are old pilots who survived all that. Could have recruited new ones.
After this episode I don't really blame Leia for striking out on her own and forming her own group.
Well, she kinda had to since Imperial sympathizers launched a smear campaign against her by making the knowledge that she is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader's daughter public (especially focusing on the Vader part), essentially destroying her military/political career.
At least I think that's what happened.
@Twilight_Lupine Silva Yeah, but it was a saveable position. She was a hero of the rebellion, practically ran it, she could've bounced back. Though I'd like to think after a while she took one look at how the New Republic was shaping up and decided it wasn't worth it. She just noped the F out. Said bye Felica. Took her ball and went home.
@@Chaosm03 Who's Felica?
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@@markcruz359 Leia’s sister
Grogu trying to say “This is the way” was the best part of the episode:)
Babies first words are often words they hear a lot , thats why a lot of them say NO alot cuz parents chase them around going NO NO , LOL! In Grogu's case, it would be cool if it was This is the Way since he does hear it a lot . When it happens , the reaction shot of the Mandos will be the BEST !!
did you legit go to every reaction and type this in comments i swear i seen u in every vid lol
I know it probably wont happen, but if Grogu said "The way this is", I cant imagine the craziness.
@@davidmacy411 would make zero sense and just proves yall only watched the movies..
Yoda is literally the only one of his species who talked that way, all other known members of that species talked normally.
@@TakeasRealm I know that. I meant it as a tongue in cheek joke.
I'm a certified Pershing enthusiast, so this episode was a BLAST to me. Omid is such an amazing actor.
I feel like there is no shot Pershing remembers anything useful after what Elia did. She had no interest in using him after the fact. She basically killed him in my eyes. She is still acting on Gideon’s orders I think.
Or Thrawn
@@Flufferz626 Nah this is gideon, thrawn *SPOILERS* for ahoska...
Thrawn is a new area in star wars called the "New Beyond" where Thrawn and Erza have been this entire time.
@@WildWeavile that is pretty much the borders of Wild Space where Chiss come from. Which is canonized. He likely returned from there already.
In my opinion I think that was the point. To keep the New Rebublic from using his work or finding out what the Empire was using his work to accomplish. I also think it was a bit of payback for betraying Gideon.
Yeah, it might be a clean up loose ends kind of mission.
Just FYI;
1. This episode was a great juxtaposition of the nuances between the First Order and New Republic .
Things aren't always so black and white.
Tarkin hooked Crosshair up to one of those; "Mind Flayers" in The Bad Batch, too.
2. They were cataloging and documenting, (and saving inside their new Republic database,) whatever pertinent information contained within the Imperial tech before sending it off to be destroyed.
I mean, that's literally what Dr. Pershing's job was.
3. Plus; the thing with his ear, that's the ear that was nearly blown off when Cara Dune shot the Imperial pilot in the face, in the season two finale.
It's fairly easy to imagine some lingering effects, which is also a pretty good demonstration of their attention to detail. (In my opinion.)
I honestly thought the ear grabbing was just a compulsive disorder
I’m wondering if with seeing the Mythosaur and the creed being so accepting of her even without the dark saber will make Bo Katan stick to their customs. When they were welcoming into the creed it was such a contrast to her being alone in her home after being abandoned by her so called “followers”. I also find it funny she calls Mandos group “religious zealots” when her group literally abandoned her cuz she doesn’t officially own a legendary sword that’s suppose to be magic lmao
Somewhat a parallel to christians and jews
I thought she sees them as zealots because they are the remnants of the terrorist group deathwatch. I think the point of the mythosaur was to introduce a way for her to regain leadership without the need of the darksaber.
Hence the episode title... She converts to death watch
I think she was thinking "Wait a second screw the darksaber maybe if I can somehow tame that big creature in the living waters they will all come flocking to me""
I think she'll make the same mistake the US made by making deals with psycho fundamentalists which will inevitably bite her in the ass.
I can't believe they cut Pershing saying it was a trap the Mon calamari from the reaction!
Right!
Exactly! It was so funny watching the Mon Calamari going, "it's a what now!?"
Do you think his reaction was "oh haha, very funny. Talking 'bout traps to the Mon Calamari" or "that's our word, human!"
Well they have to keep the best parts for full length paying patrons.
@@TheKat12364I don’t think that’s it. I think they just missed it and it went over their heads so there was no reaction
I liked the cut to the Mon Calamari when the Dr. said "It's a trap!"
I love the contrast between Bo's large ornate, but empty Castle filled with history and the legacy of her familly, but now empty except for her, and the isolated, primative cave filled with Mandalorians who accepted her into their ranks as an equal, I think seeing the last chain to her past destroyed and being welcomed to a new different type of mandolarion culture, along with seeing a mythosaur will push Bo into pursuing a future of mandalorians united under their old symbold the dark saber and mythosaur but in a new and more united direction, and i can't wait to see it.
Pershing saying "It was a trap" to the Mon Cal was hilarious. The Mon Cal almost looked insulted
So I guess Bo realizes the covert will be the first step towards reuniting her people. Maybe she wants them to witness her riding the mythosaur.
Let the game of thrones begin.
@@bursegsardaukar a tv-ma Star Wars show is long overdue. Andor is the closest we've gotten to that sort of vibe but id love to see them go all out.
“Eric, stop knowing everything!”
I was yelling the same thing 😂
The scene where he talks about his mother is so sad man, because you know, Eli might have let him live if she didn't know where his loyalties lay.
She's definitely on the Imperial payroll still. Just feeding them a fish so The New Republic will trust her.
Sleeper agent of sorts.
I would have sworn the Mon Calmari overseeing Pershing's mindwipe was Dan Akyroyd. The way he spoke... the cadence...
100% thought that too... if not it's someone doing a damn good Dan Aykroyd!
They are *flexing* with the dog-fight choreography this season - three episodes in and they've had two of my favorite fighter sequences in all of Star Wars. (I might be a bit biased, TIE Interceptors and Mandalorian Gauntlets are both among my favorite ships.)
This episode felt like it could be a gateway drug into Andor, and I mean that as a compliment. Really looking forward to seeing more of Katy O'Brian / Elia Kane in particular (although this episode puts the kibosh on my long-shot hope that they'd say Cara Dune took that polyjuice potion they used on Obi-Wan in The Clone Wars and was going under-cover as O'Brian's character so she could just take over the role lol).
This definitely felt like an episode of Andor, especially with the doctor’s fate
Not even close to the quality writing of Andor lol
@@PlagueJ I just meant in the tone/level of seriousness for the Doctor’s story
@@dqixsoss7436 tone wise 100%
I said to myself that that maybe the New Republic isn't so new 🤣
@@dqixsoss7436 i agree with both of you; the tone was similar, although I also agree the quality wasn’t up there with Andor (but like… that’s a HIGH standard). The tone was similar in that it was a anthological human story with adult themes told in the Star Wars universe. Although it’s not Andor quality, this story was miles ahead of the rest of the season so far.
even tho the quality wasn't on Andor's level, the story itself did remind me of that show simply becuz of how Kane manipulated Pershing and scapegoated him to advance her career which is a tactic highlighted in scenes from Andor depicting life inside the Empire.
One thing I think about the communications officer she might have been getting revenge. Dr. Pershing is the one who helped mando and Bo take the Moff’s cruiser. Where they basically murdered the whole crew before Luke showed up.
You know you may be right. I gotta think getting the Clone Technology Equipment was actually for something considering they actually did get it.
@@artdogg50 its prob the only thing he'd be willing to break the rules for, if she was only focussed on revenge.
I assumed she had been called upon to get rid of "traitors"
or maybe she decided to throw her former comrade to the wolves to rise in rank as Amnesty Officer to gain more trust within the NR so she has more time to loot the decommissioned destroyers herself. that type of backstabbery definitely aint beneath the imperial mindset
Mando had a proud dad moment when Grout tried to answer to their "this is the way"
My grout never even tried speaking 😢
I loved that one of the amnesty guys sounded and looked like your typical Imperial Officer!
This episode made me appreciate the writing in Andor even more, but I still enjoyed it and am looking forward to seeing where the season goes from here. I was half expecting to see Mon Mothma in this episode. She is the Chancellor as this time right? But then I remembered that she'd probably be on Hosnian Prime instead of Coruscant. Sidenote, how cool would it be to see Hosnian Prime in live action?
If Grogu's first words actually ends up being This Is The Way, that would be so adorable.
I think their basically confirming it is going to happen probably by the end of the season.
Bo-Katan being accepted by the Children of the Watch so easily is the same as Maul being accepted by Death Watch when he took it over. She's going to divide and conquer.
Because he won it fair and square
@@drewwar9344 Din won it fair and square but him removing his helmet, going against the creed, was enough to cast him out. Maul never wore a helmet, he came to leadership and ruled through power. Winning the darksaber was an easy way to seize power and implement his plan to draw out the emperor. He killed anyone that spoke against him and drove away people like Bo soon enough.
The cult is simple, follow the creed and you are one of us. Go against the creed and you aren't.
I saw the parallel too. She's going to attempt to become the leader of the Children of the Watch in order to regain power. Sort of like what Maul did with Death Watch which she had opposed all those years ago. But I think, if you ask me, in a much more moral and agreeable way than what Maul did.
Seeing an N1 take out a TIE interceptor was awesome.
Edit: typo
I think Elia Kane just simply wanted to torture and mind flay people because that is what she miss the most from the Empire days, and she certainly found a way.
I like the foreshadowing with the light up ice pop's giving a hint that she was bad with her eating the red ice pop while the newly converted professor had a blue one
I find it poignant that Pershing being betrayed on today's date, 15 March, also known as the Ides of March, which is all about betrayal and misfortune.
The ides of March was a religious day in the Roman calendar that was a day to “settle debts” appropriate for Julius Caesar and punishing Pershing for betraying moff
The more I watch this show the more I wish the sequel trilogy never happened. So I didn't just think, oh the New Republic doesn't matter, cause when the First Order is a thing everyone against them is back to "the rebels" in tiny little groups with no united front or galactic government of any kind. Also Coruscant just gets unceremoniously blown up in like a 30 second scene along with a bunch of other planets, so it's not like they took the seat of power there, it was just another target.
I can't even see how they built something the size of Starkiller base unless it's already started by now, not long after the Death Stars were destroyed, so how many of these doomsday weapons were just built over and over in parallel? Even that feels like a stretch. Would just be nice if everything after this stuff was yet to be discovered, not a trilogy made by a bunch of different people with no set roadmap laid out before it was started.
I think "Taungsday" is my favorite part of this episode; the fact that they have a day of the week named for the ancient race that would become the Mandalorians is amazing (and it's very likely that the average citizen doesn't even know that that's what the name means)
The question is, is it space-Monday or space-Wednesday?
@@alexanderthealright space Tuesday surely!
@alexanderthealright Bendusday has to be Wednesday, surely. He is, after all, "the one in the middle".
Just like most people in our world don't realize Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday are named after the Norse dieties Tyr, (W)Odin, Thor, and Freya.
I think bo is thinking if she lives like how the mandalore did then she’ll learn how to tame the mythosaur
In the world of Anime, "Filler" is used to describe original content produced to fulfill broadcast schedule. If the anime is based off a manga or other material, and the anime is catching up to the source material, filler episodes are used to ensure there will always be an episode come airtime.
Filler is NOT anytime the focus shifts away from the main character. Based off everything we've seen so far, we're seeing this part of the Star Wars universe because it'll have relevance later on in the show: It's setup for future developments.
The crew had some especially strange takeaways/interpretations on this reaction, particularly Calvin & Aaron. But one thing the gang totally nailed was their interpretation of filler. This episode was absolutely not filler, and anyone who actually does think so is wrong.
Theory: Thrawn was the one with the massive imperial fleet. We haven’t seen a fleet that big since the original movies which makes me think this isn’t just some officer. Their plan was also pretty good. Draw Bo away from her home with the interceptor, bomb her home and use the bombers to lure them into a bigger fleet.
What fleet? All she says is "thats alot of ships for an imperial warlord" but there are no ships? Just TIE fighters which I hope she wasn't referring to the TIE's? This episode was weird.
@@SonfordsGameCorner I don’t think it’s weird at all. Gideon didn’t really have much ships to use in combat but now there is a new imperial presence popping up with several ships. I’d assume Bo meant she hasn’t seen that many ships just casually out, usually they’d be near a bigger ship or base.
Really hope we get to see Bo tame the mythosaur and reclaim mandalor alongside Din and his covenant
I can't believe that the nerdiest of reaction channels: Blind Wave and Preview'd just couldn't figure out Dr Pershing's 'ear touching.'
It was because when Car Dune shot the Imp pilot in the face, half of Dr Pershing's ear got lazed! It's healed or healed it, but not completely. So whenever he becomes nervous he touches it
I can’t be the only one who sees all the genetic/cloning stuff leading to Snoke, and Palpatine’s machinations.
Am i the only one who think Elia's actress is perfect for Abby in TLoU SS2?
the eyebrow , the jaw line and the muscular build. she have it all.
I was thinking the same thing!!!
Wow, I was NOT expecting a betrayal at all! I don't remember her much, but she seemed nice and they actually seemed like they had a crush on each other! People were acting like it was obvious but I don't remember her but she seemed really nice and it came out of nowhere!
i thought it was obvious because in the opening flashback it showed her to give context which i thought was weird but her smiling at the scientist enjoying stuff is what threw me off entirely as soon as i saw that i changed my mind instantly and thought she was actually redeemed but damn
she was the most sus crew member ever, immediately voted out.
I hate her
I thought it was obvious. But I didn't mind it being obvious. I'm very intrigued in what she's doing and what purpose will Pershinn have now.
@@ironmaiden93ofangmar Yea the music cues definitely seemed like they were trying to make it obvious, but I hoped it wouldn't happen
Glad that Eric brought up Operation Paperclip. That's what the Amnesty Program reminded me of too.
Looks like we 2 storylines now with the world building from this episode, the rise of the true leader for Mandalore AND the cloning project with Moff Gideon/Thrawn
came for mando, got a mini Andor episode. Love it!
only the intro and end were good, everything in the middle is some of the worst and most unnecessary star wars content in history.
You missed the part in the reaction when Pershing said it's a trap and then the camera focused on the Mon Calamari
I was hoping to see their reaction to that too. I guess it was mild.
@@MattSimon1 Same where they played the theme from the opera scene referencing Palpatine, when Pershing decided to get the cloning tech, as thats where this will inevitably lead. Got chills when I heard it, it was well done.Was hoping they'd pick it up, or their rubbish editors would show it, but it was too much to ask. Glad Eric picked up on it though.
… I’m sorry but I really didn’t care for this episode. I don’t think coruscant looked good in the Volume; I don’t think the acting or writing was good besides Pershing; I think this episode could’ve been cut in half at worst because it dragged and the relevant bit was obvious and safe and could’ve been resolved quicker.
Corsuscant looked the best its ever looked. As for the ep itself, I enjoyed it, it was a nice change of pace and sets things up for the remainder of the eps.
@@shugaroony I’m sure this episode will be important later and obviously the point of it was to get Pershing back into the Imperials’ clutches. But that was transparently obvious from the beginning so we didn’t need to spend the whole episode on it.
Hard disagree about Coruscant, it looked millions of years better in Andor.
Eric will take any chance he has to say "Bor Gullet!" I swear hahaha
The craziest part for her is the fact that the "Crazy Cult" she hated, immediately accepted her as one of them. I think it's showing that Dins way of doing things works
Keep in mind, they'll immediately drop you if your remove your helmet in front of others. Their ways work fine, but they aren't perfect.
@Zachary Bartolo true they aren't perfect. But they are loyal and accepting of her no matter her past. Not perfect but works
But at the same time, this group of people will also IMMEDIATELY turn on anyone that goes against their rules. Din followed the group for his entire left, only for them to completely cast him out the SECOND he revealed he took off his helmet. That's what a cult does.
I'm honestly not sure how we're meant to view them at this point, in a positive light or something else. It's great that Bo-Katan has found a new group of people, but not great that this group can be seem as just taking advantage of her and her vulnerable state.
@@leonardoa5201 I wouldn't say they turn on someone who breaks their rules. Sure, they don't consider him a part of their group anymore, but Din was still somewhat welcome and they never acted agressively.
This whole idea that the Children of the Watch immediately accept people is bogus. Din threatened to kill Cobb Vanth because he didn’t fit the parameters of a mandalorian in his eyes. If they didn’t come to an agreement in which Cobb gives the armor back, they would’ve fought. In S2E3, Din says the Nite Owls are not Mandalorian, thus they shouldn’t be allowed to wear their armor as they had no intention of bathing in the living waters. Kind of a plot hole now that Filoni/Favreau are trying to reframe the children of the watch.
I heard a theory which will make the Armorer / Bo relationship far more interesting is that she could be Bo's other sister. Just for the record Emily Swallow does have some significant resemblance to Katee.
I thought there was just the 2 with her and Satine? I have no idea where Korkie came from, he could be a Founding accepted in the Kryze household?
You say you heard this somewhere? Meanwhile I'm just cooking up theories of my own. That Bo is secretly the Armorer's daughter. And that there might be bad blood, at least from Bo's position.
-She only talked about her father, and very highly at that. No mention has been made of the mother. It's possible the mother was more extreme and left for Concordia. Leaving Bo feeling bitter.
-Emily Swallow (Armorer's VA), with her hair dyed platinum would bare a fitting enough resemblance to Satine.
-She does not hold any sense of reverence to Bo's family history with Mandalore, and even seemed as close as she likely gets to being insistent on Bo joining the covert.
Bo's reaction to her could be due to Bo simply not recognizing her.
Obviously I'm not putting a ton of stock into this since it's a theory built in the negative space of information, but still it's mine.
Lesbians ey?
@@Zenapprentice What?
@Flufferz626 But did you forget in clone wars it was shown that Duchess and bo having nephew Corey was his name He was in a couple episodes but the 1st time he appeared was the mandalorian tea poisoning story arc with asoka
The effects on this show is nuts . I remember seeing Episode 2 several times when it came out , and Couresant didn't look this good ...amazing. I wonder if these two story lines will eventually intersect . The Empire remnants start something and the New Republic ends up needing Mandalorians to help , which would be a sweet piece of revenge considering what the Empire did to their planet. I think Bo is playing the long game, especially now that her home is rubble. Din will have her back cuz she's saved him several times and helped him get redeemed. This is going to be really interesting!!!
Well of course it didn' because it wast 20 years ago, technology has IMPROVED you know LOL.
Elia tricking Pershing into trying to touch the rock foreshadows her tricking him into getting the mobile lab station.
That end scene in the cave with all the mandalorians congratulating Bo and Din felt like a skit for some reason lol
Did nobody else find it so hilarious when he shouted “IT WAS A TRAP!” to the mon calmari?? Can’t believe they skipped that!
The mando parts of this episode were really good and I found it really interesting how Bo didn't say anything about the Mythosaur but I wasn't surprised. It's kind of like saying in real life that you saw a dinosaur, like "those are extinct", "no way you saw one" type of thing.
The scene being attacked in space and re-entering the planet, just shows her greatness and ability. And the (Naboo N1 Starfighter) by din djarin, it's spectacular...
Thrawn is coming .. would've been dope to see a tie defender Maybe we will in the future..lol I think it's a good thing she doesn't tell anybody about the creature ,, If you think about it the Empire and Pirates are going to want that creature... for now it's safe if she doesn't open her mouth... I felt like this was an odd episode ,, Half of it felt like Andor .. Obviously my favorite parts Of the episode is the ship battling... But yeah Mando falling in the water was all to get Bo Katan in the water also...lol
Loved it. I didn't trust that woman from the get go. I hope the New Republic doesn't think she is so great and suspect her. The one guy was like - I didn't realize you were part of Gideon's crew. Bo Katan a child of the watch. LOL.
This is not filler. A side quest with pirates would be filler. The stuff with Pershing is a plot point.
The part where the 2 bombers are getting away and we see all those Tie Interceptors showing up on screen gave me some STRONG Aliens vibes when Hicks and Ripley were trying to save Newt from the water and his motion tracker just went, "Hey ya'll should probably run."
Eric is way too pure. My first thought was Bo is planning to tame the mythosaur and doesn't want anyone to know it exists until she can😂
Shit I think I got here faster than Din Djarin sank to the bottom of that pool.
34:55 I'm a little surprised so many reactors missed this, but really surprised you guys did because you take such good notes. In "The Rescue" when Cara shot the pilot who was holding Pershing as a shield, the bolt was evidently close enough to his face to cause him injury, too. In the following scenes, you can see that his ear is burnt and it's bleeding. Obviously bacta healed it, but yeah, when he's pulling at his ear like that, he's either remembering how close he came to death at the NR's hands, or he's remembering how the Empire he served was willing to sacrifice him -- and his all-important research -- to save their own necks.
Honestly, so much of the way the NR did things in the new canon (or rather, JJ Abrams' vision of it) makes no sense. To completely demilitarize is the kind of stupid mistake I would never expect from leaders as smart as Mon Mothma and Leia, especially when both of them are persuasive enough to talk the senate out of such an idiotic move.
And in a version of the GFFA where Operation Cinder exists, the idea of taking in any Imps who were still serving after Cinder is just stupid. Cinder was the thing that separated the truly loyal, fanatical Imps from the ones who were serving a government that they thought was doing good things in the galaxy. Just like Alderaan getting blown up turned a lot of people to the Rebellion, Cinder turned lots of troops and citizens against the Empire. So anyone who was still serving this late in the game is truly in it to win it, and like the officer last season who committed suicide rather than be taken alive. No damn way was Kane ever redeemed; she is a double agent all the way, and I'm damn sure she is still working for Gideon and she probably helped aid his escape.
it was SOO cool seeing Coruscant again. and it was my sinking fear throughout this episode that Dr. Pershing befriended Elia Kane so he could trap her as a test subject for his research experiments. i was soo focused on his eventual betrayal that i didn't see the dark plot twist of Elia Kane betraying and imprisoning Dr. Pershing instead. great episode.
I dont think Bo Katan is going to challenge Din. She has taken the darksaber without winning it and had it turn out HORRIBLY. She's not going to accept it on a technicality, like i said for last episode, this isn't harry potter. She isn't the darksabers owner because she beat the eyeball thing. Din has tried to just give it to her already, she has no reason to believe he wouldn't throw the fight. I think they are going towards a dual leadership type thing, if she can "tame" the mythosaur in some way (I think reopening the mine will be "taming" the mythosaur) then she is on par in status with the darksaber owner. Din can continue to be his badass self showing the rest of the galaxy the way while he does his thing and she remains on mandalor being their leader. Possibility of a romantic thing but im not sure how that would mesh with Din's persona, the one possible romantic connection we've seen he turned away because it would be settling down and abandoning his quest.
I really don't want Bo to betray din jarin, I am enjoying their awkward friendship
If they had included the cooperation seen in Dunkirk for the dogfight (e.g. something like "pulling right on my mark, 1, 2, 3, mark" *BAM BAM BAM*), I would've asked for that scene to be injected directly into my veins.
Also, I don't think she was trying to wipe his memory, because he's not new here. He's already been through the re-integration center. I'm sure he's already spilled ALL the beans about what the Empire was doing. This was personal. She wanted to torture him for being a traitor to the Empire.
It's really interesting to see how a ton of people interpreted Elia's motives differently. I saw some people say she erased Dr Pershing's memory for the New Republic cause, like following their orders. I saw some people say she did it for the Empire. That she betrayed Pershing, now that she didn't. To me, Elia on s2 seemed super loyal to Moff Gideon, so I'd tend to believe that she infiltrated the Amnesty program to either help save him (Gideon) or sent by Gideon (who would have the escaped like said at the beginning of the episode) to get rid of Pershing. On the other hand, I never saw Pershing really into the Empire. Like, more like a collaborator than a full-on n*zi if we have to do the comparison. And the Empire was just using him, like they used Jin's father on Rogue One for example, and they wouldn't mind getting rid of him to erase their traces if he serves no use to them anymore. That's how I read the episode, personally, Elia has infiltrated the New Republic, maybe only to get to Pershing, or maybe for more reasons than that, and she's taken Pershing's researches (to have them destroyed? To give them back to Gideon at some point?) and she got rid of Pershing, and that's it. Because if we gotta be honest, when would she have a real opportunity to join the Amnesty Program? Like sure, she was on Gideon's ship when Mando and the crew attacked at the end of s2, but does that mean then, that Cara brought the whole ship to the cops, and not just Moff Gideon, then? And contrary to Pershing, Elia never showed any hesitation in her loyalty towards Gideon in the screentime she had on s2 so idk, I feel like the end with the biscuit implied that she was still Imperial.
yup definitely. Personally when I saw her in s2 I immediately got the vibes that she loved her job a bit too much and remembered her because of that. As soon as I saw her in this episode I knew she was here to get rid of dr Pershing... She´s Empire all the way
I think it's funny because yesterday I straight up asked my friend "Do you think Bo Katan deserves a redemption arc?" And he flat out said "No." And now...now it feels like she's on her way there. But I hope the next episode actually mentions something about Death Watch because how did Din go from being rescued by Death Watch troopers to....being raised by another faction.
While I really like Bo as a character (and love Katee obviously), I feel this in my bones lol. Both me and my dad, who watched all of TCW and Rebels, did the monkey meme side-eye to each other when Bo was going on about Mandos senselessly killing each other for reasons beyond understanding. [SPOILERS AHEAD!] Certainly an interesting critique coming from the same person who helped enact a coup against her peace-loving sister. 😂
Anyways, we now have a running bet over whether Bo is finally experiencing some self-reflection or just living in a whole different galaxy mentally than the rest of us.
Rooting for her to get her shit together lol.
@elliemuze But not all coups are Violent. plus the Duchess was making the people weak
@@drewwar9344 "But not all coups are violent"
Bro, she fucking died. 🤣
@@drewwar9344 Hit send prematurely cuz I was laughing too hard, sorry for the double reply.
I wasn't even disparaging coups to begin with. I specifically referenced Bo waxing maudlin over Mandalorians killing each other needlessly when she herself helped orchestrate a very violent coup against her own sister, whose literal goal was to stop the fighting. Girl skipped hypocrisy and went straight to gaslighting herself at lightspeed.
That being said, two things:
1. I like Bo as a character. A lot. She's a badass and smooth af, even taking her early onset dementia into account. (Such as demanding to know where Din was when Mandalore fell, considering he was - what, like NINE at the time? And not even a foundling yet, if I'm getting the timeline right lol.)
2. If you believe the Dutchess made Mandalorians weak, that's fine. I have nothing to argue and don't even disagree, really. But it has nothing to do with my original comment whatsoever.
Keep on keepin' on. ✌😊
@@ElocinMuse she had it coming
This was legit my favorite episode of this entire series so far. The fan service in season 2 was a blast, but the worldbuilding and development on both sides of the narrative in this episode was next level, I thought. The Coruscant stuff had serious Andor vibes. Truly tremendous episode, I thought.
This episode was the perfect mix between Andor and Mandalorian, and I LOVED IT.
Star Wars desperately needs this type of world building…
The same type that only Clone Wars gave us, it’s soooo damn good.
I’m so excited to see where this goes next ❤
Bo Katan is absolutely going to double-cross Din. She’s not actually converting, she’s in “observation” mode and is waiting for her moment to ride the mythosaur and get the Darksaber.
Din is going to reject her as leader, and become an outcast.
I think that THE Mandalorian of this show is right now Din, BUT it's creating The path to Grogu being the one. I'd like Bo to tame the Mythosaur and Din to keep the dark saber, and in years in the future, Grogu gets both, since his species outlive them by centuries, I think we will eventually follow Grogu's life in Star wars carrying the ways of the jedi and the mandalorians.
This show may be the beggining of something that we've never seen before in Star Wars. I think we are gonna see something like Doctor Who, ykwim? Years and years and years of many aventure-se with a main character, being this one Grogu. Asokah, Mando and Boba shows maybe are just the beginning. Maybe we will follow Grogu through the main future stories in Star Wars universe, instead of new movies, but when it comes to the past, before episode 1, we could see new shows with new characters, in Old Republic and stuff. Even Yoda, imagine we follow both, Yoda until the events of the movies, and maybe we will see some connection between Yoda and Grogu through both characters stories. Maaaan, my mind is going wild LOL. That's one thing that I like about all of this
I can't see Grogu using the dark saber given that Grogu's species simply do not grow and that sword is way to big for him, so unless they literally cut it in half, then I can see it happening
@@Pop-vq2xn hmm, never thought of it, that's something to think about.
Neat touch that Elia lied about EVERYTHING
Even the biscuits she said she liked being red and the one she eats at the end is very clearly not red
A lot of people have been complaining about this episode online because of the lack of Mandalorian, but I enjoyed the worldbuilding and getting to see what the New Republic is.
i 100% agree with Eric on what filler is. most people these days definitely dont use it right. if it's just about character development, people will say it's filler because it doesn’t move the story along. if it's about a story that doesn’t necessarily pertain to the main overall plot, people will call that filler. If it focuses on anyone but the main character, people will call it filler. _they are all wrong._ character development and side plots are almost never filler, especially if it changes something or someone in some way, even if that someone is not a main character.
*We got 2 episodes for the price of one!* The half with Dr. Pen Pershing and Elia Kane was VERY intriguing. I actually did believe at the end that Elia had Pen’s back but then she upped the voltage on that mind flayer and then just stared at him with those scary ass eyes. My theory is that she is trying to break Pen’s faith in the New Republic by making it seem like they are torturing him while she takes advantage of his naïveté. Omid Abtahi and Katy O’Brian definitely stole the show this episode. I hope they get more roles out of this. Also Pershing is sadly the most vulnerable and tragic type of scientist, the kind that loves the science and wants to use it for good but gets manipulated into having their research used for evil purposes.
As for Din and Bo, now that Bo is essentially homeless and Din has redeemed himself in the eyes of his sect of Mandalorians I’m very interested in seeing where he goes from here. And Bo has now been “redeemed” since she has also bathed in the living waters (which I’m very curious about those waters because that glow was very alarming) and since she is now back with a new clan what’s her next move? I honestly think she isn’t telling anyone about the Mythosaur because she doesn’t entirely believe herself. It would be like you you saw a woolly mammoth, no one would really believe you!
Also some Fun Facts on Katy O’Brian: she’s a lifelong martial artist who then became a cop, who then became a bodybuilder, who then became an actress. And as she has said on twitter and Instagram (where she posts tons of pics of her crazy toned body and of her wife) she is a massive dork. I think I’m in love 😍.
Her Wookiepedia page says that every time she entered the scene on Gideon's cruiser she was walking to the beat of the 'Imperial March' which she had playing on loop in her mind.
I have no sympathy for Dr. Pershing he's a Nazi-doctor.
Seriously. Those eyes are creepy. I don’t know how the actress does it but props. It’s like they literally glass over. It looks so evil
What an episode
I’m just happy to be seeing Coruscant again in these shows
I'm thinking Mr. Viszla (The Big Blue Mando) won't be too cool with Bo-Katan joining up.
I seen a lot of people weren't so keen on this episode but I thought it was great!
Channing Tatum's Asian Sister plays the role of the serpent in the garden of Eve perfectly well.
I've watched several reactions and one thing that keeps being brought up is how the amnesty program uses numbers instead of names. I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing. A lot of people in their situation might not want to use their real names in public due to retaliation, blackmail, etc.
If it was a detail those in the program chose for themselves, then I would agree. But to me it was pretty clear it wasn't by choice. And even then, they could simply go by a different name.
The reason it's so abysmal and A Very Bad Sign™️ is because stripping a living person of their identity and reducing them to a number (or statistic) is horrifically dehumanizing. You're erasing their personhood. Most notably, this was an infamous method of cataloging Jewish prisoners in internment camps, used by the Nazis. They viewed Jewish people as being subhuman and would forcibly tattoo numbers into their arms like branding livestock.
Any time a government body or organization seeks to assign a number to its citizens, it's considered a humongous red flag for this very reason (among many others similar in outcome).
Your confusion seemed genuine, so my intention isn't to dogpile you here, in case that's the impression I'm giving. Just answering sincerely in kind. I know tone can be lost over the ol' interwebs. 💜
@elliemuze No problem with the info, and I know all of the history involved with that type of processing of people. I was just saying that it might not be for the same reason in this case. I personally would not want my name used in public if I had done some horrendous things that I was trying to make up for. To protect both myself and maybe family. We are judging a program based on very little evidence. I would like to think that once people were done with the program, then they could use their name or choose a new one if they wanted to.
@@glittermasterofarrakis6730 Oh, that I did understand from your original comment for sure - that it was done with a different (or less vile) intention. What the Nazis did is perhaps the most extreme example of such a practice, but the practice itself is historically of ill repute for a reason, regardless of how noble the intentions behind it are. I should have clarified that better.
And I agree that they'd want to pass under the radar, no doubt, but being reduced to a number still very much wasn't a choice they themselves made. That, plus every other contextual clue such as habitual automated interactions with the non-emotive droid instead of a living person and forced invasive procedures are all huge red flags in real life as well as fiction. That is, if rehabilitation is actually the desired outcome, which the New Republic is claiming to be the case. (Though we do know the First Order lurks beneath the surface at this point, too, and have perhaps already infiltrated various branches of government.)
TLDR: The majority of what we witnessed on screen in terms of the Amnesty Program are all massive red flags in the real world in terms of humane treatment, psychological studies, statistics, and relevant sociological experiments. Regardless how sincere their intentions may be, they've thus far broken just about every moral code of ethics in the book. All on the first episode of its showcase lol. The showrunners/writers, imo, portrayed this program and its unnerving lack of merits in a very deliberate light. But that's my own observation, and it's very interesting to see what each individual takes away from it.
(Also, "GlitterMaster" is a superb name. I don't know the context, but 12/10. 👏 Haven't seen the new Dune yet, but my brain is associating Arrakis with it. Rip to my nerd badge if I'm way off base and many apologies. 😛💜)
I'm starting to wonder if all the Tie Interceptors was our first taste of Grand Admiral Thrawn.
I can't wait to see interactions between Bo-Katan and Paz Vizla.
Bo-katan does not need the dark saber anymore. If she can ride the mythosaur she can truly rule mandalor that’s why she’s not telling din Why should he have both?
Booooreeeedddd
Children of the Watch are basically Earth's Catholics. Sin all week, confess in the booth, and you're good. lol
After seeing this episode myself first, I was just *staring* at Eric, waiting for him to pick up on the music in this episode
Super interesting uses of the Resistance theme and the theme similar to the Plagueis opera theme
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, for pushing back against the way in which people use the term “filler”. I cannot remember at this point the last time I’ve actually seen someone use it correctly in a comment. It’s exhausting seeing people refer to stuff as filler that is still development but just not development they’re interested in.
Fun fact: the door chime on the train is the same as the Disney World monorails
I was gonna say it felt weirdly Disney lol
This is the way!!!
How to start at an 11, dip to a 5, jump up to a 9. All in one episode!
Finally I found another sane man , 5 abit high aswell
Love the "Blessing's be with you" comment it did feel like that. note on the Pershing ear thing that ear was damaged by Cara's shot so i think its a tic of touching an old wound during a turning moment from the empire.
Also are we going to get a Bo/Din training moment wit the darksaber? Bo's commitment to earning it honorably could mean he would need to be better with it?