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But do you need that many reticles? Holosun 507 COMP
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2023
- The Holosun 507 COMP is one of the first multi reticle optics, taking cues from the Fast Fire IV. Since the Holosun 507 COMP has 4 reticles which can be combined for even more combinations. But is that many reticles a good idea? Thank you to Optics Planet for providing the optic for video.
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nice.
(Takes tiny notebook out of shirt pocket and scribbles notes) thank you good sir.
Just Too Good..! 🤣
Oh my kids are going to love this one.
🤔🤔🤔
Seems like a worthwhile optic. Probably going to pick one up because I have a spending problem
Same. Its stressful.
Admitting the problem is the first step to never stopping, Carry on
The open 8 moa circle ⭕ is my favorite with a stigmatism. I bought all the discontinued older version whenever I could find them. Im glad they brought it back because it works best for me.
The more I watch gun channels on TH-cam, the more I appreciate your channel. Good job, as always. Very practical information well delivered. Much thanks.
407CO has always been my favorite holosun, 8moa circle. Glad to see it's available in a new optic from them.
After 2 matches, 20 circle (no dot) feels the best to me, just seems easier to keep track of when shooting fast. I'm newish, it could be that bigger is better when your fundamentals aren't that great.
As you mentioned early in the video, the big circles are helpful for people adjusting to dots from irons. the 507K was my first dot experience. Ran the big circle and the dot for 3-4 range sessions and that helped me get acclimated to finding the dot. Haven't used the larger circles since, but there may be other advantages. I picked up my first 507Comp on a package like you were holding, and was able to swing it for $300. About 2 weeks later the 507Comp got its current ride, the DS9. It seems the dot never leaves the large window on that pistol, and even if I need a small tool, I can swap batteries without removing the optic. Thanks on the advice on running the 8 with the 2. I'll give that a try.
I remember a review you made about the Vortex Venom optic 6 MOA with you highly recommend it. I got me one, and thereafter, I've been getting a minimum of 3 MOA or higher on all my optics. A larger MOA works better for quick target acquisition. Thanks, David!
Those big circles are great for steel challenge. Picking them up from the draw is great and you basically put the circle around the plate and youre good. For more dynamic competitions with smaller A zones the smaller circle is, as you said, preferable.
I thought that at one time and heard others say that. From my experience I had slower times because I was focused on centering the plate in the circle. I found the fastest way is to see the plate and pull the bang switch when the dot hits the plate.
Sounds like you are new to steel challenge. As a GM shooter in SC if you want to get faster you need to stop looking at the dot. Centering the plate in the circle takes time, way too much time. When you are trying to shoot Roundabout or Smoke in under 1.6 seconds there is no time to shoot the way you envision. I have been trying an experiment of not using the dot at all on these 2 stages, I just shut it off. On S & H I have shot my fastest times ever with no dot, it eliminates the distraction of the dot. As soon as the plate is in the center of the window I pull the trigger. I actually never stop the gun from moving on the big plates, only the stop plate. You can say all you want about being target focused and not dot focused, but when the dot is there you will look at it. I forgot to mention that a shoot Rim Fire Rifle Open and I have a rock solid cheek weld. I don't think you could do this with a pistol as even a small variation in your grip will cause you to miss without a dot. Anyway, SC is a great game, just don't lock yourself into one way of shooting it, you need to be constantly experimenting to improve.
@@CompShooter54could you offer useful information for pistol users? A class carry optics and m class rfpo and rfpi here. No one is using this on rfpo. There are much bigger and better options for those style applications.
@@Freakingstang I do shoot pistol in USPSA, either CO or Open, and use a Vortex Venom or Viper 6 MOA. I am listed as a B shooter, but I am really only a C shooter. I am listed as B because I am A in PCC, and because of the stupid classification system they automatically bump you up to one class below your highest class. STUPID. Especially since you are comparing rifles to pistols. Maybe if it was pistols to pistols it MIGHT make sense, but not rifles to pistols. That would be like saying I was good at racing motorcycles so I must be good at racing cars!
Anyway, if you are shooting M starting at low ready, and A drawing from the holster, I think you are doing fine with the equipment you are using. You should probably talk with the GM shooters at the matches you attend. They will give you much better info that I ever could.
But if you ever decide to try rifles, let me know, that I can help with.
8 MOA slide ride on my black mamba. I focus on the edge of the plate and when the dot hits it pull the trigger.
Best and easiest to understand what a specific reticle size is like on target I’ve ever seen thank you!
You have quickly become one of my fav gun tubers up there with honest outlaw. I was surprised to see your subs under 200k, I would of guessed around the 500k mark minimum
Thank you!
This was the best video I’ve seen yet comparing features and competing models. This helped me make an informed purchasing decision, thanks.
Only kind of video I make sir - but glad you got value from it!
Love the innovation from Holosun. I run their 507C ACSS Vulcan reticle and it’s a game changer, especially if you are running and gunning, entering and exiting awkward positions.
I have the same and agree with you 14:33
507C ACSS is the only micro dot on the market worth owning IMO. That 250 MOA ring for getting you on sight is clutch. Even if you're very very well red dot trained it still helps you in odd positions and in hard stress. Absolutely cannot believe nobody else is copying that concept. I will never own another micro red dot that doesn't have that type of reticle. Once you use it you cannot go back to traditional reticles.
I want every reticle available. I’d actually like them all displayed simultaneously.
i only need two testicle
Great review as always, For Steel Challenge I think the 2/20 circle dot works great. Targets are 10” round, 12” round and 18”x24” rectangle. The 2/20 makes fast work on the steel. However, I as you do keep going back to the 2/8 circle dot as my Happy place with this optic!
I've run the circle/dot for years. I basically ignore the dot and just put the circle over the A zone and pull the trigger. Very quick to pick up and for competition it gets you in the down zero zone nearly every shot.
Love this breakdown. Im new to dot shooting in the last ~6 months. The 2moa dot was definitely fine to get me started on how to acquire a dot vs irons (and training during darker months of the year). As I get more into faster drills, preparing for USPSA competition, and shooting in brighter conditions - it has very quickly become less helpful. I have a 507comp arriving this week for my Prodigy that I think is going to be a big help!
Best and most comprehensive review yet thanks for sharing
This is the first video of yours I've seen; very comprehensive and well-reasoned! You earned yourself a subscriber, sir!
Thank you for the quality content!
The 8moa circle on the old 407CO has been my go to offset dot for a long time now for 2 and 3 gun, I'm glad it's back in some form
Agree 100%! I have 3 holo CO’s on competition pistols and really don’t see a need to change a thing. I was let down when they were discontinued. I find the 8 moa circle perfect. I’ll be looking into 507 Comp when they more readily available and one of the CO’s goes down.
Again David, nice, informative video on the 507 Comp. I agree with your assessment of the 2MOA dot, a number of which, from various manufacturers, are mounted on my hunting handguns. They are great for that application, but poor prospects for defensive and competitive environments. Keep ‘em coming!!
I have used the Holosun 507C on an AK rifle mounted on the hand guard. The lower part of the 32 MOA circle is great for holdover shots at close distances.
I’ve had mine for about a month on a p320 specter comp.
Damn thing is awesome!
I typically use just the dot and have zero issues going fast with it as I am used to 3 moa SRO and R1P’s.. no vision issues here..
Good to know. I’ve never been that sure what sized reticle to get. This helps.
Great overview of dot sizes and where/when they’re applicable. That first part of the video could have been a red dot instruction video of its own.
Thanks. Your review is the best I’ve seen so far. I’m definitely replacing my 507k with this one on my racer.
Very impressed by your review quality and thoughts. Appreciate the information
I've been using a 508T since they came out and I initially used the 32MOA ring + 2MOA dot combo as basically training wheels for acquiring the dot and building muscle memory, since then I've never used it apart from weak hand stages for much the same reason, helping to find and track the dot cause I'm lazy with weak hand practice.
Having the full set of 2, 8, 20 and 32 is kind of like having training wheels, a BMX bike, a mountain bike and then a downhill bike/road bike in terms of progression and learning capabilities, as you grow with the optic and in the sport it lets you refine and progress your skills without being stuck with a handicap or having to buy multiple optics.
Now if only they made an enclosed version...
Give it a year or two.
I would certainly like an enclosed version but something like this meant for competition I really don't mind the open emitter. I'll never go back to an open emitter on a carry gun though.
If they eventually make an enclosed version with the same window size you'll never hear the end of the Acro guys crying. Hell they can barely stand the idea of the Steiner MPS, let alone the people that buy them.
I think what you missed, and is in the other comments, is you are a great shooter so you have a blind spot to newer shooters to whom the 32 MOA outer circle is very helpful. You might say it’s a crutch and they should practice more and you are right. But in the mean time, the 32 moa does speed them up. The great part of this reticle is multiple skill levels can use it effectively to their skill…. Just say’n.
I think the larger circles may be useful for 3 gun or practical/tactical shotgun use. Having different reticles to match the spread of the shot at different distances may be useful.
I like the look of these. I have just been waiting for more to get out into the wild.
I just got my yesterday and im loving it. been running the 8 moa no dot. Need to play with the other reticles.
I was lucky enough to get two from the first shipment about a month ago. I agree the 2/8 is the most useful for speed with my (corrected) astigmatism. I like the availability to just choose a 2 to zero but then switch to a circle & dot depending on the task. 32 is useless but 20 can be used to frame the target up close. I was shooting Bill drills today on a M9A4 doing very well. The big window is a plus coming from a 507/508.
I didn’t know you shot Area 4! Pretty cool seeing people shooting the same stages I did!
Got mine a couple weeks ago and I love it!!! I e come to like the 8MOA circle with the 2MOA dot. I can use it with the brightness turned down. Live this thing. However it does reflect the emitter towards the top of the window when the brightness is turned just a little too high.
I love my 507c ACSS. The ~10MOA chevron works like a big dot on most targets, but the 250MOA outer circle is fantastic for new shooters or those strong hand/weak hand stages where you may not index the dot perfectly. Would love to see the ACSS reticle on a bigger window like this 507 comp.
I wouldn’t think a 250 MOA circle ⭕️ could fit into such a tiny window like a pistol dot. 🤔🤷♂️
@@luckymanham302 It doesn't, and that's exactly what makes it awesome. If your presentation is a bit off, you'll see the circle to help index the dot/chevron. If you see the dot/chevron, you don't see the giant circle cluttering the window.
I actually think the chevron is better than a dot. The top of the "V" makes precise shots easier with a reasonable reticle brightness
Tim Herron reported having a good time experimenting with the 32moa circle only in his testing. It's just a different method of using the sight as a confirmation tool.
Thank you for the excellent video on Holosun 507 Comp. Picking me up one for Optics Planet.
They are decent sights!
Great job, as usual! Really like your reviews.
I got the Holosun 508T with solar panel backup. If I did another purchase it would be Holosun with an enclosed emitter. But I am completely satisfied with my Holosun 508T titanium red dot.
Same for my 507C green on my Beretta 1301. Love Holosun.
I just picked one of the comps up today when i picked up my new pistol and its my first ever red dot on a pistol so im likeing the bigger circles to help me train but will most likely use the setup your talking about with the 2moa dot and 8 moa circle one ive put enough practice behind it.
Once you go green it makes all the better. I wished I had all green dot Optics. It makes it so much clearer, cleaner, crisp and much easier to pick up. Some people can't use the green but for me it's the only way to go. The higher price is more than worth it for me.
I switched to all green dots for my astigmatism cept for my DPP. That's red 🥲
To me, this is the SRO killer. the SRO has a lot of media presence but at like 50% higher price, lack of green dot option, and the hood overhang (read a number of malfunctions caused by it), the 507 Comp takes the cake for me
David you hit the mail on the head with small MOA dots!
I haven’t bought myself a new dot yet. However, I’ve occluded the Dot with black tape and that seems to help in all the, aforementioned “negatives”.
I do a lot of pistol shooting, but not in competition. These days most is with red dot optics. I decided early on to stay with the same brand and model optic (keeping with familiarity), and use the RMR 3.25.
Game changer for me and my astigmatism. First time I have options and can pick a reticle with no bloom or glare.
I am very intrigued about the 2/8 and i think that's the reticle to use for USPSA. The combination of the dot and ring makes it look like a bigger dot, great for use in bright situations. The other circles are just too big and busy. When I tried the big circle in my 510c, I spent too much time looking for the center dot.
Great info video David!! Have an awesome weekend Brother!!
I’ve had my 507 COMP for 3 weeks now and it’s my favorite optic I’ve ever used. It’s IMHO flawless……
Can you turn the 2moa dot plus the 8moa circle on and add either of the larger rings with the 8moa circle still illuminated?
Some reports have said its the 2 MOA dot plus 1 ring only
I have the old 407CO X2 with the 8moa donut circle and it's good! I don't compete but go to the range a lot and it's fun to plink steel with. Makes for an easier transition
I found that the Romo X with the 32 circle / dot was helpful shooting local IDPA with my CZ RAMI carry gun.
The typical target has a no point loss circle in the middle of a sea of brown, and this helped me realize that area quicker.
I have not tried the circle with no dot yet, but some seem to like it.
Thanks for your perspective, as I am considering a competition type gun like a CZ Shadow 2 etc., or I may change the red dot on my P226 RX which has a 3.2 dot.
Cheers, Tony
The ACSS Vulcan reticle is the ultimate choice for fast shooting. I like the 2MOA dot for precision shooting/hunting on my Glock 40 10mm.
I absolutely love my c mores. I totally agree with everything you said. I tried a Holosun 510 on my pcc had it one for about 2 week until I came to about the same conclusion you did and sold it. I will say I am playing with 12 and 16 moa dots on c mores with good results. I think anything bigger than 16 would be a problem.
I think 12 would be a winner for practical shooting.
The 6 moa 407K on my carry pistols. The 32 moa circle of the 507C on my home defense pistol for when I wouldn't be wearing my eyeglasses at 3am.
I LOVE my 506c with the 2 dot and 32 ring. It just works well for everything I want it to do. I shoot really well dynamically even with a 3 m dot but that’s what I’ve drilled on my whole time shooting with rds
8MOA circle and dot is where I've kept mine...zero'ed w/ just the dot and then switched. i'm fairly new to competition shooting but it's seemed to be easier to pick it up and put shots where they need to go.
I just ordered my first Staccato C'S2. I ordered the 507 comp to be mounted on it. 👍🏼🇺🇸
If they would just offer a 6, 8, or 10 single dot version this would be a great choice.
yeah a regular 8 dot would be nicer IMO.
I am so glad you mentioned the ghost dot on the SRO. I thought it was just me..
I got my 507 COMP on an impulse buy when I saw one for sale few months ago, and I ended up putting it on my Zastava AK47, instead of a handgun. Its AWESOME! Yes you do need all those reticles, or maybe you don't, but you will have them anyway, just in case.
The 2,8,20 combo I use for matches especially steel and shooting plate racks. Put the plate in the circle and down it goes. I also use this optic as my primary duty carry, out Dept. issues the SRO and have seen 4 break as well as mine with minor drops and bumps.
I started using the 2/32 MOA sights when I first transitioned to a red dot so I could pick up the red dot faster. Now I use the 2 MOA (507c). I put tape on my sight to reduce focusing on the dot and it makes the 2 MOA dot a little easier to see. If it breaks, I'll probably switch to this sight.
Great video as always!
PS: your videos helped me start my USPSA journey
On the top of what? You lost me there
@@920WASHBURN meant to type "dot" not "top," I corrected it
You're the first person I've seen who hasn't pretty much said this is the SRO killer. All the other competition guys I subscribe to have said goodbye to their SROs and swapped it with the Holosun Comp. I'm subscribed to you too of course. Keep it up.
I am also one of the few that paid for this - I had two ordered before optics planet rushed one in
About the 32 MOA circle: the description on the Holosun EU site says the 32 MOA is perfect for 15 meters shotgun steel plate. I'm not a good enough shotgun shooter to say if this is realistic, but it could be.
Just ordered the 507comp for my pistol. I'm one of those guys who bought a 3 MOA dot for IPSC and then realized it is a little small. Especially if you're new to IPSC *and* red dots like I am, I think a large window and a large dot will be a much better choice. Can't wait to try it out!
Thanks for the comparison to the DPP. Just FYI, those are regularly $350 online, you just have to watch for them. At that point, it's just a decision between which footprint your gun supports - DPP or RMR. Glad to see you still running the Prodigy, too!
I thought that the DPP footprint was dead on the water and the RMR would become the de facto industry standard. HOWEVER… the introduction of Holosun’s truly micro enclosed reflex sights like the EPS gave new life for the DDP footprint (not to mention it also accepts the smaller RMSc). The RMR footprint is a nightmare to design an enclosed sight (the screw placement makes it almost impossible). Since Trijicon couldn’t even make the RMRcc compatible (with gaps) with its traditional RMR footprint, I think it won’t be the standard for long.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 I'm looking forward to the Primary Arms GLx RS-15. DPP footprint... if it ever comes out.
@@thatmikereed didn’t even know primary arms was tipping its toes in the micro red dot market. Good, more competition. That said, I’m not convinced the ACSS Vulcan is a good reticle for competition shooting. The multiple ring options on the 507 COMP seems like the better deal.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 I want to see if they offer anything larger. My current favorite is the Burris FF IV with an effectively 11MOA dot. Great for USPSA.
very helpful and informative video for pistol racers. thank you.
I really appreciated this video , I m just getting into red dots , n was looking at H/S 507 , only held in hand n looked through, at gun shop, after buying my 940 Pro Tactical 12 ga. , I want to get for my Canik Mete n Rival Dark Side also n great prices , able to buy a few ! I learned a lot from you, thank you for doing this video for people like me !!!! 💥💥🔫😊🇺🇸
The features and clear glass is a game changer for the 507 comp. I got rid of my sro due the fish eye effect and blue tinted glass. I highly recommend the 507 comp! They selling secondhand online for $280-$300 which is an amazing deal!
Option, options, options..... With as much as these things cost, I like having options to choose which dot/reticle size to use based on the situation than only having just a dot.
On a rifle yes, I agree but on my pistols I like using just the dot. For other shooters it's nice giving them options. Most of my pistol/rifle dots are Holosun, I only own 1 Trijicon rmr.
Always something to consider: people that swap optics from gun to gun if they want want a backup red dot on their rifle, the settings may be different at different distances from eyes. You can swap it from your pistol to your rifle to shotty. Shooting bird shot you may want to use the MRS to get just the circle to mimic the spread at the distance you think you'll be using it at, dot for slug, and smaller circle for buck shot. Overall it does seem like they made an "all-in-one" dot. which isn't bad. not going to put it on my CC for sure though. it's a monster!
What would be helpful to shooters is a common foot print for RDS, direct to slide mount,no after-market proprietry mounting plates, oh and how about some quality mounting screws, a tool to mount/adjust and loctite?
I just started to use a RDS on pistols. So I've chosen the 3 MOA.
I shoot small matches locally. I'm learning how to use the dot, but a 4 MOA may be a better option for me.
As someone who has astigmatism, 2MOA dot and 32 circle works best for me. I see a tiny star and some smudgy circle where I can figure out where the dot is at.
I have the 407c green & the 507 green Vulcan and love them both
Totally going to replace my Bul sight on my Ultimate Racer. larger reticle and side loading battery ftw.
The big 20 and 32 circle I imagine can be good for a shotgun or a ccw. In glad they made this because I wanted the 407co with the 8moa circle but it's unobtainable now.
Outstanding video... Haven't been to the range in 10 years, getting back into. So much has changed, yet very much the same.😂 Well done on explanation on Dot moa size. Subbed.
Great review as always
I have the 507 comp green love all the options on a AR-15 45°
I like the circle reticles from holosun for scatter gats. Work up a good load that has about a 32 moa pattern, zero the optic, and you're golden. Great for hunting and HD. Some shooters just do better with putting a circle on the target. I used to shoot archery competitions and my front sight was a circle. Center the circle in the rear peep, and center the X in the circle. The human eye is shockingly good at naturally putting things in the dead center of circles. This is part of the reason why aperture(peep) sights work so well compared to open iron sights(V notch/ U notch, ect). Some people that shoot precision rifle matches with iron sights opt for a circle front sight too, nearly identical to my archery setup. Is it for everyone in every application? Nope. Whether or not it fits you and your application is 100% subjective and up to you.
Have the HS507C on my Beretta 1301 TAC LE shotgun and love the dot with the 32 circle
I like having the different reticles in the 507c 32 for blasting steel up close the 2 if i want to be lame and shoot groups. Always wanted something in between. So this is it. Definitely think just having 3,6,8,10 would be better
Excellent video, thanks!
Once again, Holosun is innovating and leaving everyone behind.
Don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, Since PCCs have such a holdover when shooting close at like 3 or 5 yards, some of them will use the 32MOA ring with the 2 moa dot and they'll put the bottom of the big ring on those really close targets. Because that's where the bullet will hit, due to holdover. And they'll use the 2moa dot when they're shooting fifteen and twenty five Yards.
as someone who has been putting off getting large window dot because of cost and shitty buttons/adjustments like on sig dots. This is a win all around. If you dont have a large window dot i see no reason to buy any of the other models anymore since this came out. I dont see any negatives about this optic at all
Just want to point out that your hat game is on point!
I use a DPP for my comp gun. I may switch to the Sig from this vid if my dot ever goes bad since I’m already used to one with a high base.
I think the circle+dot combo is better for high stress situations like if you ever have to use your personal defense/home defense weapon. I don’t think it’s good for competition. If I used this for comp I’d definitely use the 8+2.
I may buy this and put it on my home defense pistol, tbh. The large window would be nice.
Like you mentioned, I use the 32 moa circle with dot as training wheels to help find the reticle quicker but I don’t have this newer version with all the other reticles available.
Very informative review. I'm considering the HS507Comp for my shotgun I use for target shooting at 15 to 50 yards max. I'm also looking at the HS510C and the HS508T. The HS507Comp seems to be a blend of the 2 and maybe the best option. Your thoughts?
Nice 👍! On rifles, I prefer a 2 moa dot with the circle ⭕️ ring cuz it give me fast target acquisition with accuracy and allows for my holdovers. On my Benelli m4, I have the 507 with just the circle ⭕️ cuz it gives me a decent buckshot pattern out to 25 yards. On my Glock 19 gen4, I have the 507k with circle dot works good, but I also have the ACSS 507 RDS on the g19x and it’s perfect ! Now I’m gonna buy a PSA dagger slide and put this Holosun competition optic on it. Tricked out gen3 Glock clone on a budget. Moral of the story: get the optic that best suits your needs, and these may change with any given application.
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oh snap!
Fantastic video. Just earned a subscriber.
I found them in stock at Staccato ($399), ordered mine last week. They sure are taking their sweet time shipping it though.
i have a 507c and i have had it for 3 years now. solid...
My go to optics for competition are the 6 MOA R3Max, SRO and Cmore RTS . I’ve run the 507X2 and 407CO successfully but the smaller window size is not optimal comparatively. I just recently tested my Shadows 2’s at full speed, , one with the 6MOA SRO and one with the 8MOA 407CO and the results were virtually the same . However , at 25 yards - the big window with the 6MOA dot obviously feels more comfortable visually.
But, I am going to pick up a couple 507 Comp ‘s for my RMR cut back up pistols ( S2’s and P10F’s) as my guess is that they win over the other options for performance vs price . I agree that I most likely will never use any other reticle than the 8MOA circle - but it’ll be fun to play around with all the options. Also, I just shot a brutal stage that required shooting 6in plates at over 40 yards - that’s def an instance where I would’ve cycled down to a 2 MOA dot if I had the option .
Note on my optic experience :
SRO - no problems - but those sticky buttons are a bit annoying
R3 Max - had to get one warranty replaced due to button failure
R1Pro - got one warranty replaced due to cracked lens
Cmore RTS - low round count comparatively so no issues but I dislike the Allen key height/windage adjust
HS 507X2 / 407CO - 100% bombproof so far and I like all the controls - but 2 MOA dot quality is not very clean - but I really like the 8 MOA circle - very crisp lines for my eyes.
Oops - note on R3Max button issue - I believe the latest versions have new flat buttons that replace the problematic “bubble” buttons - which may fix the only issue on an otherwise great optic
I run a EPS with the 2 moa dot 32 MOA circle. I like having that big easy to track beach ball bouncing around in the window for CQB and if i wanna get crazy and push it out to 50 or 100 yds I can shift my eyes focus to the 2 moa dot for precision and use the circle to bracket the target.Also i noticed the 32moa on the eps is more like 26 MOA because the 32 moa on the 508T is noticably larger. Not a pro competitive shooter btw just a guy who trains alot and does bill drills and timed dynamic shooting against friends
Nicely Presented.
thanks homes!
Seems like a great sight but I won’t be getting rid of any of my SRO’s for it.
Being able to change MOA sounds pretty awesome, you can zero it and run long distances with the small dots, and turn it up for competition and defense. The other reticles seem unnecessary. Is there some downside to having adjustable reticles? Less reliability in the emitter or something? Agree that solar failsafe is a gimmick, unless you're training outside all the time, at competition you might get 3-5 minutes of use in the sun out of the holster. Shake awake would be nice though, but with an external door you could just take the battery out.
the big circles seem misguided to me - they listen too much to rifle bros who have opinions on pistols and the serious face shooter types - I think that as the mainstream catches up on how to use red dots on pistols properly we'll see some of this start to drop off.
I already know for a fact I’m going to use the 8 moa open or 8 plus 2 dot. Hoping I like it more than my sro but just don’t know until I purchase one.