OP says the boss was wasting his time by having him sweep the floor when there was nothing to do, but what he doesn't realize is that they where giving him something to do to continue to be paid instead of sending him home with no pay. Getting paid to do pointless work beats going home with no pay.
This was an ~18-year-old who felt so freaking entitled he thought that he could sit on his butt and get paid for it. You’re right, his time wasn’t wasted they found work for him to do. If I had been his boss and he had walked away when I sarcastically told him not to help me I would’ve fired him that day. The dudes lucky he kept the job for the next couple of weeks. Because he wouldn’t have if I had been his boss. I can’t wait for him to try to pull some of this shit on a job he actually wants to keep.
On top of that, if you know how to operate that machine it is not hard at all to pull it out. At some point was doing it for few months about 4times a day....
Sweeping and cleaning can be very important in certain jobs as build ups of small floating particles can actually become explosive, flour factory for instance.
That guys "girlfriend" had to many preconceived notions of what a relationship entailed, and it also sounded like he didn't have enough of an idea of what a relationship was. Result: culture shock. I hope they both learned something from that.
@Who Cares yep I've heard------guessing it's the web your on about---that needs electric to run electricity normally generated from fossil fuel which is all the old vegetation not just some----- we achieved more as humans without the web
mattwho81 they don’t HAVE to use paper. They CHOOSE to use paper. They could store all of that information digitally but some people want physical copies and that’s the problem. Not the new technology, the old technology and peoples addiction, for lack of a better word, to it.
All guys should beware of relationships with women that don’t want them to even be near other women. It’s an unrealistic and impossible request to keep, even if you have no intent to cheat, and is usually a request that overly-obsessive partners make.
John the boss is the embodiment of the elephant in the room, & the fact that he can't even acknowledge himself as such makes everything worse for everyone including the company.
I had been reading a library book at work on my break ...went back to work. Later I discovered that someone had stolen it. Library said I would have to replace it. I had already checked for the price ... about $8 ... library charged in excess of $27. Why? Purchase + restocking with library book code and library staffs time. Damned expensive labor ... minimum wage was about $4 @ hour at the time. Books that the library didn't have ... I read and then donated them. What did the library do with the books? Sold them for a dollar each (same ones I paid $20 or more each). I quit donating (I had joined 3 or 4 book of the month clubs) it was the same as throwing money into the trash can. I did start donating them to school libraries ... they keep them until damaged badly.
Kenneth Wilson Actually, library editions cost more as the binding is a little tougher than one you would buy for home use. I worked in a bookstore at one time and saw price lists. Regular hardback was $20 USD, the library edition was $70.
I read somewhere that libraries seldom take books donated to put on the shelves, something about possible contamination from mold or mildew. It made sense when I read that years ago and there was more to the story.
If the books you donated were to niche for that area or if they already had too many copies, it makes sense that they would sell them rather than have them take up space on the shelves. My library only takes donations if they are bestsellers/popular titles or historical.
They have to. We have to order from a specific supplier who charges what they charge... we can't order from amazon or ebay. There's literally a contract with them... they supply us all books and in return we save on the bulk shipping with them/they pre-cover the covers to get them ready for the library. And then we have to process the newly arrived books into the computer system, stick their stickers on, get their security tags on, ect. There's a whole process before they even make it onto the shelves. Paid staff do that. I did that. For hours. It was tedious and boooorrriiing work. But it had to be done. So it sucks. I know. BUt there's a reason you get charged more at a library and in exchange you get to rent a book for free (unless you misplace it or damage it) without having to commit to buying it. That's just the agreement we have.
And we can't accept donations generally. I WISH we could. But we sell them at book sales so that we can use the funds to buy things for the community to use... such as xboxes, playstations, ect ... or we put that money towards the tea/coffee for community talks, or towards hiring a tutor for the senior computer lessions. It isn't pocketed by the staff. And getting funding for things like that is an absolute headache.... try explaining to some crusty ass blue collar dude why him giving funds for a gaming nook /game library will help the library increase teenager use when all he sees is less book shelf room and more noise. I took home an amazing set of very old books on witchcraft donated to us that we couldn't keep, sadly, and we couldn't sell... because they needed some very special care. It isn't a bad thing to donate to a library and help them fundraise for things they can't get funding for. Just make sure its the kind of stuff they can sell. Very old books just aren't going to be sold.
For the library one, the price difference between what was listed on the book itself and what they charged could be anything from differences in prices between when that copy of the book was printed compared to the date it was damaged to the cost of shipping on top of the cost of the book, or just plain a bit of built in fine for damaging the book to the point it had to be replaced. Reasonable enough, just like it was reasonable for the OP to want the damaged copy for themself since they paid for it to be replaced ( and if it was so 'damaged' it had to be replaced it would likely just get destroyed after the returns were sorted ) Not wanting the book to be further destroyed by the removal of the sticker was also reasonable I think. Person at teh desk was just being an asshole at that point IMO
@One Clunky GMT800 Yes, but. I'm of several minds about this. I've been in a position where I had to replace library books for any number of reasons - the dog ate it; we moved several states away and couldn't return it; a much younger person got creative and "drew" on it. I have always asked what the policy was as far as replacing the damaged or lost book, or paying a fine that might have been in excess of the value. As I have several friends who are librarians, and have always loved books myself, this is an important thing. Usually, I've been able to simply replace the book. If a newer or updated copy was available and acceptable to the library in question, all was good. If OP had just gone in to the library without the book, they would have been asked to pay for it. There wouldn't have been any question of who owned it, since they hadn't brought it back. They would be buying a replacement book for the library, in effect purchasing the book they had left elsewhere. That they had brought the book to the library, damaged, which started the chain of events, and that they had no idea that they would be asked to replace the damaged book just tells me they don't know a lot about libraries, didn't bother to ask questions about the procedure, and/or the librarian didn't explain the procedure very well. I don't think anyone is really at fault, but OP is flexing for what might be a perceived embarrassment in dealing with a damaged book. That they had to try to salvage some status by posting the story of how they "won" over a librarian just shows how little they have going on. After all, the story is effectively - I damaged a book through carelessness; I tried to return that damaged book to the library but was told I had to pay for it; I paid more than the book was worth, but probably the replacement cost of the book; the librarian tried to follow rules of operation in taking the book out of circulation per my request, damaged the book in a minor way, and I said something snide.
when you buy a book in a store, you do not have to pay shipping, or the card catalog papers, or stamp it for ownership, or a lot of other minor things which Library's have to pay for. So you cannot go by the price for a store.
The worst part about that dad's ego wasn't that he wouldn't let the other 2 do the training. It was that he left his diabetic son with the same 2 people he wouldn't let get the training and told them not to bother him. What did he expect to happen?
That last one, they were not wasting his time. They were paying him for his time. mostly paying him to do nothing so that he would be there when they needed him... And then he quit. Just like you walked away when his boss was being a little bit sarcastic. Not a hard worker, and not someone you really want working where you work.
And that's probably why he had one coworker who hated him from the second he got there. He could tell op was a slacker who loves screwing others over. Hell he probably should have had the gloves on him already instead of having to go get them since he knew he was going to need them.
In my country not having work for your employee and making them come in anyway is considered consecutive dismissal (being forces to quit) which is illegal and can get the company sued. as a result if you cant do your usual job for what ever reason policy here is to have employees clean to avoid breaking this law while also avoiding paying them to stay home.
My husband is a trucker/CDL trainer in the US. There are 3 parts to the test one must pass in order to get the CDL lisence. They have to be able to perform the pre trip inspection, where they check the brakes, wires, lights, condition of the trailer and the board needs to say everything is in working order before they can proceed. They have to do this for every load, so it’s important. He’s in the reefer division, so he has to check to make sure it’s running and cooling properly. Then they have to pass the backing test, which a lot of them fail because they take too much time or have to pull forward to reset too many times. They only give you 3 tries to get it right and only so much time so that’s the hardest part. The last part is the actual driving test where they make sure the driver knows everything, from cornering, breaking, following distance and using the trucks controls in the proper way. Since they don’t go for the test until the trainer thinks they are ready, they almost always pass. They get 3 tries on it and each time they have to do all 3 parts of the test. If they fail a part, they come back and do the whole test over. I know it doesn’t sound hard, but the average driver wouldn’t be able to drive his truck properly without some prior knowledge. There are a lot of warning lights and gauges to keep track of and they have to know what to do if something fails, like the brakes on the trailer. He and his trainee are driving through some snow, and just now got a warning that the abs on the trailer isn’t working. This is normal as the snow builds up. So now his trainee has to be aware that he needs more braking time and has to be gentle because they could lock up and he could fishtail. It’s not cut and dry and it’s not a cake walk but my hubby has seen many trainees through to being very good drivers. They just have to pay attention and listen and always be on guard for the idiots in their blind spots and those who just have to get past the truck and then slow down right in front of them. Don’t do that! Please, pass on the left side and be aware that just the cab alone is 12,000 pounds! Fully loaded the limit is 80,000 pounds. Sometimes it’s a liquid load like OJ and that changes the way the trailer behaves. It normally takes a fully loaded truck the length of 3 football fields to stop if they are doing 60MPH. Please know they don’t want to run over you so don’t be an idiot! I hope that was helpful.
Definitely not easy for commercial drivers license. When my dad did it, you had to go to school, pass tests for company, sometimes hazardous material endorsement, physical, and had to get CDL renewed every 2 years.
all you need to get one is a semi, pass the writing and driving tests, if you take the diving test with truck with a auto in it you. get the automatic restriction.
Why would your dad need to renew his CDL every two years? Even when they first came out, they've always been a 4 year license. The medical certification is every 2 years... Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
Library books are expensive if they're made for library circulation. Those extra sturdy hardcovers or that really hard lamination jacks up the price. I worked in a store that accidentally bought a few library-style children's books. The wholesale price was almost $30 USD per book.
About the library book...Libraries charge you the cost of what _they_ would have to pay to get a new copy of the book. The price on the back of the book is not always what the library pays. Sometimes they pay less if they buy in bulk. Other times they pay more than a regular customer would because they are "renting" the book out to multiple people (read: loss of sales for the publisher). Either way, they have little to no control over the cost as they are required to purchase through specific distributors or from publishers directly.
OP in both of the last two stories seemed like a-holes. “How dare they pay me money to work and expect me to actually do work” “Yeah, the library is charging me for damaging a book when they supply thousands of books for free, I’ll show them by being an ass for no good reason”
I agree for the last one. The library one wasn't too bad. There was no need to be a pest about it, but it does feel like it would be a little disingenuous for the library to charge him so they can buy a replacement book if they were going to keep using that one anyway.
@@andymcl92 they weren't going to keep using the damaged library book. No idea where you get that from... And it makes sense that a replacement costs a bit more than the actual book since they likely have some extra costs involved, f.e. : - shipping - time for ordering and preparing the book for service
@@Robbedem I work in a Library and I can tell you a few things, first the Librarian was wrong to remove the sticker or try to, all she had to do was use a sharpie and black out the barcode. Our books can cost more based on how old that book was, if we are ordering a new copy the price could have gone up, or we may have a new supplier whose prices change. Shipping doesn't come into it so much because the book would be added to a bulk order. We do pay taxes on our books as well though and depending on the pst and gst in your location that can also make up the difference in cost. The real cost of replacing a book can be in putting the new book into our system as each employee is paid by the hour so if they take the twenty minutes to put on the barcode, and identification stickers, then they are being paid for that as well which the end user never has to deal with that cost.
In my experience bale machines have a tipping feature when emptying the machine, you press the lift button and it tips over the bale onto a pallet which you then use a pallet jack to move it outside. 🤷🏻♂️
Though older, worn out units... such as the one in our store, can have trouble getting the ejection mechanism to fully catch, maybe a really lazy manager would neglect getting it fixed and try to work around it
I used to be a trucker here in the states. I wouldn’t say it’s easy to get your license. Regardless of the route you go, company paid or government paid or self paid, you have to go to school. The best ones have you as a trainee between 2 and 3 months essentially. That’s from scratch to professional. It’s rather quick because the turnover is so high. It’s a shit job for exponentially shittier pay as time goes on. It wreaks havoc on your physical, mental, and emotional health unless you’re extremely disciplined.
The guy didn’t actually buy the damaged library book. He paid a fine (it was nice they didn’t charge a flat fee like some do). The library owned both books afterwards. He couldn’t take the book. He couldn’t charge for the book. The library was just nice enough to give the damaged book to him. They were likely required to removed the identification sticker. They were nice enough to not remove it. In short, the poster was an a**hole and they got away with it because the library didn’t want to put up with him. He probably could have gotten the same results by just asking nicely too. Or, say he lost the book; here’s the replacement.
In the US you previously only had to take a few written exams, general knowledge, air brakes, combination(tractor trailer), HAZMAT, Double/triple(road train), and tanker(tanker, dbl/tpl, HAZMAT, all optional endorsements) followed by a road test. Now you have to go to an accredited school to get your license. Most major carriers or carriers that hire inexperienced drivers also have their own course that you’ll likely have to complete or a training program that pairs you with another driver for an undisclosed amount of time or miles before putting you on your own. It was fairly easy but you still had training and courses after getting your license. It’s by weight too, a straight truck that’s 26,000lbs or lighter doesn’t require a CDL, 26,001 requires a class B, 26,001 with a trailer under 10,000 is a class B, 26,001 with a trailer 10,001lbs requires a class A. Most straight trucks you see in my neck of the woods are -26,000 so they don’t have a CDL and can get sketchy.
All I’m gonna say is I live In Texas with family who works in the DPS office where they give CLD test (commercial drivers license) and the multiple test they have to take can be very difficult requiring large Amounts of studying to pass. You have to know what every part of the truck does and how to check all of it which the person does immediately before the driving portion of the test in front of the test giver. So all in all in Texas at least it is difficult to get a CDL and you have to know your stuff to get one
I got a letter saying I had not returned a library book and had to pay to replace it. I argued that I had returned it but they insisted I had to pay. So I did, a month later I found the book in a bin of books the library was selling for a dollar. I showed them the book and my receipt but they refused to do anything about it so I bought the book for a dollar so that at least I had a something for my money. 📚
@@Hacksaw37 Because of the number of books I tend to check out at a time, I've had this happen a few times. When they pushed, I would ask for them to walk the shelves with me. I could, generally, find the book on the shelves and that would clear the problem. I did buy more than one book, though, because I had made a mistake and returned it to the wrong library, or maybe it had gotten lost. Things happen. Life moves on. I always figured that the money was used to support a cause I liked, so no harm. I'm sorry you had to deal with that unpleasantness, though.
In the US the main problem is most companies require you to not only have a license to drive a big rig, but also several years experience driving with trailers. You basically have to either work for less at companies that usually offer to pay for your CDL classes or be raised on a farm or ranch. The helicopter guy, yeah, the manager was understandable, if a bit naïve. Comes with experience.
05:55 To get a CDL (commercial drivers license) in the US you have to go through multiple steps. Of course it varies by state but overall it is regulated by the Federal government on what must be achieved. You have to go though a 4-6 week training course to learn all the rules (FMCSA Regulations) and during that time you get a learners permit that allows you to drive with another person with a full CDL. Then towards the end of that course you take the test for the full CDL. If you pass then you start driving for a trucking company and they always pair you with a trainer for about 3 months before they sign off on your ability to solo drive safely. In all it takes appx 4 months to start driving a truck.
"It's really easy in the US to obtain a truck license" No. No it isn't. REALLY easy for anything on 4 wheels, but for a class A CDL, you've got about 2500$ and a month of class. Oh and the test is incredibly difficult. It's probably harder in Sweden, but in the US, it isn't "really, really easy". It took me three tries.
I agree. The tests also try doing trick or well make some (not all) of the questions in a confusing way to make sure people pay attention. You can only attempt the tests three times in one year and will have to wait a year if you fail them. That doesn't include the driving test either. There's also always three different versions of the tests but you only need to pass one of them. this is so no one can copy the questions and then pass the same test the second time by copying down the questions and memorizing their order. Sadly I failed all three of my tests each time missing only by one or two questions. For me this was like 10+ years ago and I ended getting another job that I liked more than I thought I would have.
True it is not easy to get the class A CDL but most truck drivers I have witnessed driving completely ignore a good amount of laws. It's the same for a driver's license for cars and the like. They can study to pass the test but once they have passed they toss all of that out of the window. People want to pick and choose what laws they will obey. I am tailgated, brake checked, pressured to go above the speed limit, and other similar things daily. Doesn't matter who it is I constantly get harassed. Sure it is not convenient to follow the law but throwing the law out of the window endangers everyone around you.
@@Servant-Of-The-King You're talking to someone who slow down if she catches herself at 2mph over the speed limit. I see *many* more cars violating traffic laws than trucks. The ramifications are higher for us. 4 wheelers just don't care.
In California you can do a break waiver. It was designed for the hospitality industry because when your in a rush or have tables you can't always break when the law says you should. Most of front and back of the house I've worked with use it and just cut it down to hits off a cigarette a few times a shift between tables or tickets. I've got stomach aches trying to eat to fast and get back into action. Here though money is King. Keep on working hard brothers and sisters.
I also live in California but in the healthcare field. If you miss your 30 min unpayed break or any of your 15 min payed breaks the company is supposed to pay you an extra hour of pay. if you work an 8 hour shift that is an hour of overtime for free. I think the company might get a fine from the labor board also but i am not sure. That is probably why the manager didn't want him working through lunch, it looked on the surface like an necessary expense. I work 12 hr shifts so i sign away one a second lunch that i am supposed to get but i am still supposed to get a 30 min lunch and 4 15 min breaks.
When I worked at a library we always had a slightly higher charge than the RRP. But we also had a contract with a specific book supplier, we had to factor in shipping costs for ordering books in and we also had to process the books into the system, get them covered, stickered up, ect. They don't just arrive in a box and go straight on teh shelf. So ...extra cost for the book. There's no way around that. We need to buy it new. When a book is damaged and needs replacing it usually goes back to the staff who process books so it can be reordered, assessed for whether it can be sold to patrons, and that specific book canceled in the system. He didn't 'own' the book just because he paid for damages. She didn't have to give it to him. She could have thrown it out or sell it damaged in one of the book sales as a fundraiser. And she didn't have to deal with a jerk after doing him a favor.
Neith where I grew up we actually had laws regulating how library‘s were allowed to charge for books. Legally they were only allowed to charge the RRP for damage. They were only allowed to charge fees up to the RRP of the book for late fees and if they didn’t get the book back they were only allowed to charge twice the price of the book. Once for late fees and once for the book itself. And if your library is keeping books they force people to pay the entire price of your library is a thief.
In the states they train you to pass the test only. They let it up to the company's that hire them to do the rest. And the trainers themselves have only 6 months of training. Can you see a problem?
You absolutely cannot be okay with an employee working through their lunch to leave early, that law is there for a reason, because lunch breaks cannot be made negotiable. If you later have to let go some employees, and one of them always eats, and one doesn't, you're going to retain the one not taking any breaks - and now signing that "I'm okay not taking a break" waver has just become a requirement for the position.
In my state, If you miss your 30 min unpayed break or any of your 15 min payed breaks the company is supposed to pay you an extra hour of pay. if you work an 8 hour shift that is an hour of overtime for free. I think the company might get a fine from the labor board also but i am not sure. That is probably why the manager didn't want him working through lunch, it looked on the surface like an necessary expense.
The "Wasting time" story pissed me off. Does the entitled prick not realize he is being paid to work! His bosses were super nice to him by finding work for him, paying him to basically do nothing. They probably invested hundreds of dollars into him by paying him when his help wasn't needed and they should have sent him home. And he paid them back by screwing them over when they needed it most!
In England it is illegal for a company to allow you to work continuously through the day without taking regular breaks, so the employer has a legal duty of care to ensure that you take your breaks. [so as an example they are not allowed to let you work through your lunch break on the understanding that you can then knock off work early at the end of the day] ........ If you do work through your lunch break and book it on your time sheet they are obliged by law to deduct the time that you should be taking a break. Most good knowledgeable managers turn a blind eye to the staff time keeping and actually look at the production ethics and rates. ....... 1 employee does the work of two men and knocks off early and the other hangs the job out to book overtime but does half a day’s work... which one would you reward. ...... Unfortunately the world is full of ignorant bosses who have no understanding of what the staff’s job entails so they enforce the only thing that they understand which is the timesheet. Now that is a bad boss.
Depending on where you are, you are not legally allowed to waive rights to things like breaks. Due to things like employers forcing employees to "agree" or be fired if they didn't skip, etc.
Thanks for being amazing, Storytime. Love your content. Defeinitely need more r/supernovarevenge r/prorevenge and r/maliciouscompliance. I don't even read reddit, I listen to you tell them too me lol
Truck driving in the USA you have to take a course, learn how to drive a big rig, and pass a test both written and driven. It costs a lot, but there are companies that will pay for you to do it if you agree to work for them for a while. You just need a high school diploma. Once you have the license there are a LOT of rules about when you can drive, how long, how much down time you have to have, etc etc. They have to keep logs, and the cops can check the logs if they get pulled over.
In the EU you need about four to six weeks of training and pay at least 5000 € to get the lessons and the license (I´m not familiar any longer, so it might be even more today). There are not only the driving skills to learn, but also safety regulations, different laws you need to know, how to load and secure cargo, the braking systems and other technical things that you need to learn and how to do the paperwork. Trucking in Europe is international, so you need t know how to communicate in case of traffic controls. The laws about taking breaks are also very strict. There is also a device that monitors the speed and idle time. If the truck is checked the police controls the breaks and driving hours. You´ll get a fine if you don´t take the break or the break is too short and if your hours get too long. There is a dayly and weekly maximum amount of hours. If you have too many fines, you lose your license. The employer gets a fine as well in the same amount of money as the employee. So the employer can not force the workers to break rules and get a free pass. If it gets repeated, the operating company might pay extra fines and lose the right to operate trucks as well.
I'm an American long haul trucker. In the US, trucking companies spring truck drivers to do stupid illegal dangerous stuff including exceed the hours of service regulations is a chronic problem. There is an entire federal law called the Surface Transportation Assistance Act that allows truckers to sue in court when companies do stuff like this and win big in court. there's a second system where the complaint process is easier called the coercion rule under the control of the FMCSA. Controls the actions of trucking companies but also freight brokers, shippers and receivers all of whom are banned from pressuring truckers into doing illegal dangerous stupid stuff. These rules only protect truckers who refused to violate the law and get punished as a result. We are expected to stand up to these bad guys and hold our ground.
Damaged books still remain property of the library... and the catalogued price above RRP is to cover processing (covering, cataloguong, delivery, etc.) sometimes the library will adjust that price for inflation or pettiness... so if you "loose" it, it's a $350 book, but you can probably get it elsewhere for sub-$100...
The US CdL can be a problem especially with endorsements such as Hazardous materials, doubles triples etc.and class A. They always come up with a different or new off the wall requirement every few years for renewal..hours and breaks are critical a company a friend works for was taking a considerable risk several years ago by allowing some drivers to allow the drivers to miss log their hours on a well paying run.it was a run you could make under ideal conditions in a 11 hours but they were allowing some drivers to log it in 9 hours so they could make three trips a week it paid about between 500 and 600 USD per trip times 3 could range from 1500 to 1800 per week. My friend was the one they put pressure on because he logged it legally. Therefore he could make 3 trips one week but only 2 trips the next..because he would be out of service hours after the first trip of the following week those drivers who were illegally logging hours went to complaing when the company was required to put in the electronic logs
I am a US truck driver. And i dont really know how hard it is for the EU but i know that is tough in the US. We are driving large semi trucks across a large country. We go to school to get our licenses The test is extremely hard and companies put you through a test as well. The job is hard and deadlines are very tight most of the time.
Libraries do not normally remove the property of stickers as anyone can do that, but instead, normally stamp over it with a special stamp showing it no longer their property.
Story 1: Normal drivers licenses is way harder to get in the EU then US. Class B goes up to 3.5 tons and 8 passenger seats. It used to have *no* time limit, but even now it has a long one (decades?) C class is trucks (more then 7.5 tons). D class is Busses (more then 8 passengers, no direct weight limit). You need a extended 1st Aid course (2 weeks rather then 2 days CPR) and have way more strict health requirements. And the licenses always were time limited. And then there is also the whole Mandatory pause thing. And the very strict load security and general vehicle safety. And hte lower general speed limit (80 for Trucks, 100 for busses). Based on the severity of accidents those can cause, we do not just let everyone drive more then 3.5 tons of vehicle. Oh and trucks are generally barred from driving Sunday, unless they carry spoilable goods. And that is all I can tell from memory. I still have my B class book - but C and D literally have different books and tests.
Being a commercial truck driver in europe is quite the ordeal. First of all, obtaining the licemse for commercial driving depends on the country. But where i live, for example, you have to take quite a few extra things like physical and psychologic tests, you have to learn the laws of your own country and of course manouvering the trucks through the good old cities and villages that were built in the web style, in difference to the blocked cities, because they were medieval small cities that had defense systems around and got their style from that. You also have to learn to drive in different terrain because of the alps and other mountain ranges. When you can do that you have to learn for your job. If you have a small scale operation radius that can be fairly easy, but international. Every countries law differs in terms of breaks, max load, max height, load safety, speedlimits, weekends, nighttime and such things. And lastly you have to plan every single trip with the eventualities of traffic jams, breakdowns, controls. And the refugee crisis didnt help as Schengen countries started to control at the borders to find people gettimg smuggled on trucks so time for that had to be added.
@KnngCasim if you have a CDL in the USA its a federal law you have to take a 30 min break before the 8hr mark if you run a 14hr clock and go out of your 100 air mile from your home terminal. If you run a 12hr clock and stay inside 100 air mile from your home terminal you don't have to take the 30min break. They are talking about changing it up again in 2020
@Faceless aquatics Not all delivery driving requires a CDL in the US it all depends on the truck and we don’t know what kind he was driving there aren’t enough details to make assumptions
States like AZ are jerks in the sense that they can make you not take a break. Drivers have different rules, but a friend was a manager at a food place and she got in trouble by the GM for letting people take their breaks. So yeah no breaks at a high volume fast paced work place is trashhhh.
Wage and hours doesn't care if you want to take you legally required break or not. The company is required to make you take it. If they get caught, they get fined whether you want to take that break or not. Yeah I have employers willing to take that gamble, but it depends on if you have the boss willing to lose their job over it or not.
American Interstate Truck Drivers have some different rules than Intrastate TDs, but mostly there is one major Commercial Driver's License for all of the USA. Only major exceptions are Mexican Drivers can drive all over the USA without taking a CDL test, without being able to read English signs or maps, and Foreign Drivers like Russians, etc. are given the same extremely low standards here. As I was challenged before on these answers, let me now state that I have taught a Russian from the area of Georgia how to unhook his trailer from his tractor (In Indiana) and translate to a Mexican man how to get back to Piedras Negras, Mexico, (Eagle Pass, Texas) from where we were at a warehouse close to Oneida, New York.
For truck driving: I don't know how easy it is to get a CDL (I imagine it's about the same with a regular license, some people need more practice). I do know that drive times are strictly enforced (at least by the better trucking companies) to ensure safety.
My CDL school cost about the same. Was 3 months long all day. Morning in classroom. Afternoon in the truck. Not really easy as you assume, but not impossible. The U.S. does not hand them out like candy.
There is also all of the Laws/reqs covering the drivers of commercial vehicles, that normal driver do not have. One is the max allowable drive times. *corrected for grammar issues.
For semi trucks (aka the ones that haul the fifty foot or bigger trailers) in the US the laws are pretty strict too. They do not want exhausted drivers in loaded rigs.
@@RajaniIsa Considering that No-Doze and stronger drugs used to be part of trucking culture so people could meet their limits, and we're still having trouble with drivers and poor judgement calls, altered time sheets, and questionable practices, it was past time for everyone to start being more realistic about driving times and limits.
In some places in the United States, and in certain conditions, we are not allowed to waive our rights ... tenant rights is an example ... I believe work breaks is also not allowed to be waived, just about all my bosses were adamant about breaks, no matter what ... one boss would lock the doors, if you were caught inside, you were fired ...
Obviously its a lot more complicated in the EU. Its not as relaxed as in the US. In the EU, truck drivers have to be on break regularly, plus driving a truck in the EU is a whole different story, as, sure, only one trailer, but the rear swings out more and the roads are all narrower than in the US. Also, theres all the safety and stuff.
@@Jyxorz Well, breaks probably just as strict, but as far as training in general driving, backing up, maneuvering around tight corners and tight city streets... Thats a skill you have to learn on your own in the US. in Europe, you already start learning that in driving school, because, surprise, streets are still fucking narrow.
@Timothy Newitt The street I live on in my city is barely big enough to fit a car and a bus next to each other. When two buses meet, one of them has to block an intersection, just so they can get by each other. (Still doesn't help that public transport in my city is hella unreliable. Always either late, early, or rarely punctual.
I'm a truck driver in the USA, we are allowed to work 14 hours in a day, with 11 of those allowed for driving. If you start your day at 8am, you must finish your work by 10pm. However, the 11 hours of driving can be divided up however you want in that 14 hour window. There are also more rules about how much you can drive in a week but that is more complicated and irrelevant to the story told.
I can't rememeber the exact reason why they did it, but when my grandfather was in the NYPD, they wanted him to have a CDL to drive a bus. As part of the training, they had him zig zagging around the support pillars of a elevated subway line.
Also keep in mind that while it's pretty easy to get a CDL in the US, it's also incredibly easy to lose one as well, especially since many trucking companies are brutal and very unethical in their business practices and they often push their drivers to violate laws. I've even known drivers who were given cocaine and meth by their dispatchers so they can make their long haul deliveries on time.
I have a Class-A CDL which means I can drive a semi with 53 foot trailer in the U.S. To get one you must be 21 years old, no felonies, pass a written test and physical which gets you a permit, then a driving test which is basically a scaled up version of the test you take for a car. You drive on the road, do an inline backing test, an offset backing test, then ether parallel park or a 90 degree ally dock. To be able to haul hazmat, tankers, or a double or triple trailer (they are shorter trailers) you have to take a written test for them as well. We have a lot of regulation, even you time is regulated. You can drive for 12 hours or be on duty for 14 hours (which ever time burns out first), you must have 10 hours between your end and start time, you have to take a 30 minute brake within X amount of time, and you can work 72 hours in a week but then have to shut down for 34 hours. Your weight is regulated as well, you can weigh 80,000 LBs tops with X amount of weigh over your trailer wheels (tandems). Then with over sized loads, they can only drive during the day and hazmat haulers have to take different routs so they do not go through cities. California is a joke, they put WAY to many restrictions on trucks on top of the federal regulations. Now it has been a few years since I have driven trucks for a living so some of this may have changed a little.
I think you've got it confused. In the US it is indeed super easy to get a license to drive a normal personal car, but getting the license to drive trucks is really intensive.
I should clarify this is about specifically semi trailer trucks. Lots of people own smaller pickup trucks for their personal car, and they aren't considered commercial vehicles so you don't need the fancy license for that.
OP paid £13.50 for damaging a book that was actually £8.99 and the librarian tore a page a little? I would have told her to pay the difference for it for damaging my property.
In the us it is very different For driving most things you need a cdl which isn't too hard to get If your driving dangerous things you need a hazmat And there's alot of more specific liscences for other things it tends to be easier in the us but you have to renew more often and it costs almost double
I'm in the EU (I guess you are also until the end of January unless Brexit is postponed again) and know some older guy who has all the licenses on his driver's license. Because when he got his license you could just ask to have them all put on your driver's license. Today you have to take separate exams for each of them. But he still has all of the licenses, can drive trucks, touring cars etc. because they were grandfathered in).
Becoming a truck driver in the US. You are regulated by federal rules. Being a truck driver in the EU, Means driving between multiple different countries that all have varying degrees of rules. So, I'm assuming that is what takes so long. Also, there are Day time short haul and Long Haul drivers. For example, I live in Vermont. We have a company that employees team drivers that go from Vermont to California. That is all they do. And as Department of Transportation is tasked with managing ALL trucks. Under the Federal Government umbrella. The truckers don't have to know different countries/ states information like the EU drivers would. And it is not easy to become a truck driver. You still have to attend class and then drive with an instructor. You either have a log or your company monitors your truck via satellite communication. You can only drive a certain amount of hours per day. You must take breaks and sleep time. Being tired and over worked behind the wheel of a 18 wheeler is just an accident waiting to happen.
When i worked at a grocery store they regularly denied me lunch then would wright me up for not taking it. So when my lunch came i would just go take it. After a while i got fired i took all my evidence to the labor board in my state. Ended up getting a decent settlement for wrongful termination. They also had huge fines because an investigation showed they were altering the hours on the time clock.
Employment laws such as mandatory breaks are in place to provide a legal leg to stand on in case a company is abusing employees. Unfortunately, they can also be abused by the employees, in order to disrupt and sometimes destroy a business, as is the case with 99% of these malicious compliance stories. I hate how the OP always leaves off the part at the end when, after destroying the livelyhoods of everyone around them, they then start their own business from the ground up and do it properly, hiring back all of the innocent victims they left in their wake at a slightly increased wage with benefits. We'd really like to hear that part. Why don't you include it?🤔
US truckers are just interstate - EU truckers tend to be international. Our states tend to be the size of the EU's countries. As for the Uni temp worker - so let's get this straight, OP got handed light busy work instead of getting laid off because there wasn't enough work, and he repaid the company by quitting as soon as the work came in? Sounds to me like he was just lazy and didn't want to actually work.
In the US it takes a course of 9-17 weeks and an externship of 2-6 weeks of training to get OTR driving, local jobs with straight to trucks are hard because you usually need 1-2 years OTR experience.
I enjoy these stories and most of the time understand the reasoning behind the malicious compliance. HOWEVER... I don’t really agree with the way the end up causing the entire company to lose money and sometimes even shut down. That also causes a lot of innocent bystanders to lose their livelihood... idk just food for thought I guess..
Not to sure about EU and CanAm licensing, but Australia nationalised their licensing regulation 25yrs ago, although your license is still state/territory based it is standardised.. the license is graduated L - P1 - P2 - CAR - LR - MR - HR - HC - MC (the first three are Learners so must have a CAR or above supervisor next to you, P1 & P2 are probationary restricted regading alcohol and peer passengers) a CAR allows anything upto 4500kg GVM, Light Rigid is virtually the same but for commercial use. Medium Rigid is any GVM provided it's only two axles (so ~15,000kg) and no more than a 3000kg trailer. Heavy Rigid is almost identical, no limitation on axles, but the trailer remains. Heavy Combination is any single articulated vehicle either tractor-trailer or truck'n'dog (rigid truck ie. tiptruck and drawbar trailer, aka truck'n'pig if drawbar trailer is rigid rather than the lead axle pivoting)... Multi Combination is anything with multiple arcticulations like a B-double or roadtrains (upto Tractor - B Trailer - B Trailer- A Trailer - B Trailer - B Trailer- A Trailer - B Trailer - B Trailer- A Trailer... ~176m)
Licencing isn't hard but DO NOT get caught breaking the rules for example if you are over weight they will fine you and your company by the pound the rate of the fine is discretionary so be nice also you cannot operate the vehicle so you need to unload some of your cargo before you can leave (I have been that driver that did extra work grabbing a couple of skids from a truck at the scales). Any company that operates trucks has a CVOR (commercial vehicle operating record) like a licence if it acquires too many fines in a period of time they undergo a safety audit and finally suspended from operating vehicles.
It is not easy to get a CDL ( commercial drivers license). You have to train at a truck driving school. Same for what I did. I drove school bus. Training before you take a test with the state. Interstate tests are even harder.
In the States you have to pass a written test and a driving test, to get your CDL. It is not easy, a few people I know use to teach a 6 month course on it, for the company they work for.
How easy is it to get a CDL? It depends on where you get it and whether it will be worth the plastic it's made from. Some companies will take you fresh off the street, get you a permit to learn, teach you themselves, and hand you a CDL. I've had to retrain several people like that. Many can't even back up a rig. A very, very small number of schools don't do much better. Having the CDL, like any driver's license, just means you know the rules of the road (written exam) and can get the truck to go in the direction you want it to go (maneuvering pad and, if you pass those, on the local roads), it doesn't make you a good driver. That takes training and experience. Most good companies will take you out for at least a couple of weeks, IF you have a few years experience. Otherwise it is 2-3 months of training. From this story, it sounds like a UPS sized truck. Oddly enough, you can drive an RV the size of a bus with just a regular drivers license. BTW, I'm a driver. 14 years OTR. 1,000,000+ safe miles, and former trainer.
We had a company that was using pneumatic tankers to deliver lime and cement to a road project we were doing on morning a driver was almost 3 hours late, the company had installed electronic logs that had a badge reader that had to be inserted like a chip reader in a credit card he"d preloaded the truck the previous evening so he could leave at. 4 am he couldn't start the truck because by his chip in his badge he didn't have the legal required hours of rest between last duty period and start of his next marvelous technology of the electronic log..
#Storytime I use to drive trucks, it's easy enough to get a licence in AU, all I did was go for a driving lesson then after that do the driving test plus have a open drivers license
I dont get it? Son was mad at father for having him do the dishes? I hope he doesn't live rent free then, because if my kid did something so petty after living rent free I'd make him do even more chores.
Not justifying it here, because you are correct that it was super petty. But I do see the frustration. It appears (to me at least) that they had a deal that the son would do them in the morning and the dad changed his mind and wanted them done "right now." Which was really late and when son was getting ready for bed. Again, still petty and a dick move on the son's part to wake up mom. Easier to just do them quickly and go to bed.
I'm going to have to disagree with you vehemently on the skipping lunch if you agree, because then that *spreads* and becomes an expectation for other employees. That's why it became law in the first place. It's way too easy for employers to coerce people to sign things away.
That last story annoyed me. You are getting paid to work. Not stand around, playing on your phone. Sweeping the floor or what not is the companies way of justifying your employment. I mean the fact you had to be asked to sweep is sad. If im at work and there isnt much to do ill pick up a broom and start sweeping. Or ask for something to do. Shows initiative and some work ethic.
Ya in the us it’s called a CDL or commercial driving license and it’s a 64 hour class for one week you have to listen to instructional videos and the other 2 weeks is learning to drive and doing prechecks and post checks of your vehicle. There are also endorsements each endorsement is different like passenger, school bus, hazmat, and so on.
Probably already been said (too lazy to search through the comments) but getting a class A license in the US is pretty easy. It's more annoying than anything.
it would make sense if he use harder to get a license for Trucking since you have to go from country to country where as in the USA you're mostly traveling in the USA
Getting a HGV licence this is for 40 ton standard HGV licence is a bigger responsibility and shouldn't be something easy to get as it is in usa, generally the easiest way you get a HGV licence in the UK/ EU is to go with a large trucking company as typically they have their own HGV learner vehicles and as long as you stay with them for at least I believe 3 years they will pay for the training and licence Once you start getting into the more specialised vehicles like the 60 80 or 95+ ton HGVs,(dangerous materials, oil tankers, cranes, extreme heavy movers the ones where they have like 90 wheels on them) you get paid silly amounts of money on them type of vehicles on UK /EU as not many people have those type of licences and the amount of effort the person has to get those type of licences is a lot of work as well lots of safety stuff more then the actual driving on the bigger stuff, driver has the legal right to ignore a boss or other site operators he is on if he believes its unsafe to move his specialised HGV
OP says the boss was wasting his time by having him sweep the floor when there was nothing to do, but what he doesn't realize is that they where giving him something to do to continue to be paid instead of sending him home with no pay. Getting paid to do pointless work beats going home with no pay.
Entitled workers lol
This was an ~18-year-old who felt so freaking entitled he thought that he could sit on his butt and get paid for it. You’re right, his time wasn’t wasted they found work for him to do. If I had been his boss and he had walked away when I sarcastically told him not to help me I would’ve fired him that day. The dudes lucky he kept the job for the next couple of weeks. Because he wouldn’t have if I had been his boss. I can’t wait for him to try to pull some of this shit on a job he actually wants to keep.
On top of that, if you know how to operate that machine it is not hard at all to pull it out. At some point was doing it for few months about 4times a day....
Sweeping and cleaning can be very important in certain jobs as build ups of small floating particles can actually become explosive, flour factory for instance.
InstaBlaster...
That guys "girlfriend" had to many preconceived notions of what a relationship entailed, and it also sounded like he didn't have enough of an idea of what a relationship was. Result: culture shock.
I hope they both learned something from that.
What's clever with messing library's about---their supplying a tremendous free resource
Thank you.
That story really annoyed me
@@Solanin0803 cheers mate---- glad it wasn't just me who thought op was a twat in this tale
@Who Cares yep I've heard------guessing it's the web your on about---that needs electric to run electricity normally generated from fossil fuel which is all the old vegetation not just some----- we achieved more as humans without the web
Most offices report the increase in computer use in the workplace has significantly INCREASED the amount of paper they have to use.
mattwho81 they don’t HAVE to use paper. They CHOOSE to use paper. They could store all of that information digitally but some people want physical copies and that’s the problem. Not the new technology, the old technology and peoples addiction, for lack of a better word, to it.
All guys should beware of relationships with women that don’t want them to even be near other women. It’s an unrealistic and impossible request to keep, even if you have no intent to cheat, and is usually a request that overly-obsessive partners make.
Come live were I do... they don’t even want you near other men
John the boss is the embodiment of the elephant in the room, & the fact that he can't even acknowledge himself as such makes everything worse for everyone including the company.
I had been reading a library book at work on my break ...went back to work. Later I discovered that someone had stolen it.
Library said I would have to replace it. I had already checked for the price ... about $8 ... library charged in excess of $27.
Why? Purchase + restocking with library book code and library staffs time. Damned expensive labor ... minimum wage was about $4 @ hour at the time.
Books that the library didn't have ... I read and then donated them. What did the library do with the books? Sold them for a dollar each (same ones I paid $20 or more each). I quit donating (I had joined 3 or 4 book of the month clubs) it was the same as throwing money into the trash can.
I did start donating them to school libraries ... they keep them until damaged badly.
Kenneth Wilson Actually, library editions cost more as the binding is a little tougher than one you would buy for home use. I worked in a bookstore at one time and saw price lists. Regular hardback was $20 USD, the library edition was $70.
I read somewhere that libraries seldom take books donated to put on the shelves, something about possible contamination from mold or mildew. It made sense when I read that years ago and there was more to the story.
If the books you donated were to niche for that area or if they already had too many copies, it makes sense that they would sell them rather than have them take up space on the shelves. My library only takes donations if they are bestsellers/popular titles or historical.
They have to. We have to order from a specific supplier who charges what they charge... we can't order from amazon or ebay. There's literally a contract with them... they supply us all books and in return we save on the bulk shipping with them/they pre-cover the covers to get them ready for the library.
And then we have to process the newly arrived books into the computer system, stick their stickers on, get their security tags on, ect. There's a whole process before they even make it onto the shelves. Paid staff do that. I did that. For hours. It was tedious and boooorrriiing work. But it had to be done.
So it sucks. I know. BUt there's a reason you get charged more at a library and in exchange you get to rent a book for free (unless you misplace it or damage it) without having to commit to buying it. That's just the agreement we have.
And we can't accept donations generally. I WISH we could. But we sell them at book sales so that we can use the funds to buy things for the community to use... such as xboxes, playstations, ect ... or we put that money towards the tea/coffee for community talks, or towards hiring a tutor for the senior computer lessions. It isn't pocketed by the staff. And getting funding for things like that is an absolute headache.... try explaining to some crusty ass blue collar dude why him giving funds for a gaming nook /game library will help the library increase teenager use when all he sees is less book shelf room and more noise.
I took home an amazing set of very old books on witchcraft donated to us that we couldn't keep, sadly, and we couldn't sell... because they needed some very special care.
It isn't a bad thing to donate to a library and help them fundraise for things they can't get funding for. Just make sure its the kind of stuff they can sell. Very old books just aren't going to be sold.
For the library one, the price difference between what was listed on the book itself and what they charged could be anything from differences in prices between when that copy of the book was printed compared to the date it was damaged to the cost of shipping on top of the cost of the book, or just plain a bit of built in fine for damaging the book to the point it had to be replaced. Reasonable enough, just like it was reasonable for the OP to want the damaged copy for themself since they paid for it to be replaced ( and if it was so 'damaged' it had to be replaced it would likely just get destroyed after the returns were sorted )
Not wanting the book to be further destroyed by the removal of the sticker was also reasonable I think. Person at teh desk was just being an asshole at that point IMO
@One Clunky GMT800 Yes, but.
I'm of several minds about this. I've been in a position where I had to replace library books for any number of reasons - the dog ate it; we moved several states away and couldn't return it; a much younger person got creative and "drew" on it. I have always asked what the policy was as far as replacing the damaged or lost book, or paying a fine that might have been in excess of the value. As I have several friends who are librarians, and have always loved books myself, this is an important thing.
Usually, I've been able to simply replace the book. If a newer or updated copy was available and acceptable to the library in question, all was good.
If OP had just gone in to the library without the book, they would have been asked to pay for it. There wouldn't have been any question of who owned it, since they hadn't brought it back. They would be buying a replacement book for the library, in effect purchasing the book they had left elsewhere. That they had brought the book to the library, damaged, which started the chain of events, and that they had no idea that they would be asked to replace the damaged book just tells me they don't know a lot about libraries, didn't bother to ask questions about the procedure, and/or the librarian didn't explain the procedure very well. I don't think anyone is really at fault, but OP is flexing for what might be a perceived embarrassment in dealing with a damaged book. That they had to try to salvage some status by posting the story of how they "won" over a librarian just shows how little they have going on.
After all, the story is effectively - I damaged a book through carelessness; I tried to return that damaged book to the library but was told I had to pay for it; I paid more than the book was worth, but probably the replacement cost of the book; the librarian tried to follow rules of operation in taking the book out of circulation per my request, damaged the book in a minor way, and I said something snide.
when you buy a book in a store, you do not have to pay shipping, or the card catalog papers, or stamp it for ownership, or a lot of other minor things which Library's have to pay for. So you cannot go by the price for a store.
@@goldengryphon I think the book became damaged on the way to the library
The worst part about that dad's ego wasn't that he wouldn't let the other 2 do the training. It was that he left his diabetic son with the same 2 people he wouldn't let get the training and told them not to bother him. What did he expect to happen?
That last one, they were not wasting his time. They were paying him for his time. mostly paying him to do nothing so that he would be there when they needed him... And then he quit. Just like you walked away when his boss was being a little bit sarcastic. Not a hard worker, and not someone you really want working where you work.
And that's probably why he had one coworker who hated him from the second he got there. He could tell op was a slacker who loves screwing others over. Hell he probably should have had the gloves on him already instead of having to go get them since he knew he was going to need them.
@@tonyblake7569 You both got the same sense of OP as I did reading that. I made a post that it just may be OP who was the douche.
Fresh POV. Thank you for highlighting this up, everyone. Yeah OP is a douche lol
yeah, 100% the op being a douche there, had the misfortune to work with a few people just like him.
In my country not having work for your employee and making them come in anyway is considered consecutive dismissal (being forces to quit) which is illegal and can get the company sued. as a result if you cant do your usual job for what ever reason policy here is to have employees clean to avoid breaking this law while also avoiding paying them to stay home.
My husband is a trucker/CDL trainer in the US. There are 3 parts to the test one must pass in order to get the CDL lisence. They have to be able to perform the pre trip inspection, where they check the brakes, wires, lights, condition of the trailer and the board needs to say everything is in working order before they can proceed. They have to do this for every load, so it’s important. He’s in the reefer division, so he has to check to make sure it’s running and cooling properly. Then they have to pass the backing test, which a lot of them fail because they take too much time or have to pull forward to reset too many times. They only give you 3 tries to get it right and only so much time so that’s the hardest part. The last part is the actual driving test where they make sure the driver knows everything, from cornering, breaking, following distance and using the trucks controls in the proper way. Since they don’t go for the test until the trainer thinks they are ready, they almost always pass. They get 3 tries on it and each time they have to do all 3 parts of the test. If they fail a part, they come back and do the whole test over. I know it doesn’t sound hard, but the average driver wouldn’t be able to drive his truck properly without some prior knowledge. There are a lot of warning lights and gauges to keep track of and they have to know what to do if something fails, like the brakes on the trailer. He and his trainee are driving through some snow, and just now got a warning that the abs on the trailer isn’t working. This is normal as the snow builds up. So now his trainee has to be aware that he needs more braking time and has to be gentle because they could lock up and he could fishtail. It’s not cut and dry and it’s not a cake walk but my hubby has seen many trainees through to being very good drivers. They just have to pay attention and listen and always be on guard for the idiots in their blind spots and those who just have to get past the truck and then slow down right in front of them. Don’t do that! Please, pass on the left side and be aware that just the cab alone is 12,000 pounds! Fully loaded the limit is 80,000 pounds. Sometimes it’s a liquid load like OJ and that changes the way the trailer behaves. It normally takes a fully loaded truck the length of 3 football fields to stop if they are doing 60MPH. Please know they don’t want to run over you so don’t be an idiot! I hope that was helpful.
It's good that he had healthy boundaries at the beginning of the relationship. Once you start obeying someone they think they own you
Definitely not easy for commercial drivers license. When my dad did it, you had to go to school, pass tests for company, sometimes hazardous material endorsement, physical, and had to get CDL renewed every 2 years.
all you need to get one is a semi, pass the writing and driving tests, if you take the diving test with truck with a auto in it you. get the automatic restriction.
Why would your dad need to renew his CDL every two years? Even when they first came out, they've always been a 4 year license. The medical certification is every 2 years... Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
It is the DOT med that's every two years, if you're lucky. If you have certain medical conditions, then your renewal for medical is every year.
Why hazmat? Where I live that's a separate license
Hazmat can be an endorsement. Not separate license. Yeah, you're right. It is medical every 2 years
Library books are expensive if they're made for library circulation. Those extra sturdy hardcovers or that really hard lamination jacks up the price.
I worked in a store that accidentally bought a few library-style children's books. The wholesale price was almost $30 USD per book.
About the library book...Libraries charge you the cost of what _they_ would have to pay to get a new copy of the book. The price on the back of the book is not always what the library pays. Sometimes they pay less if they buy in bulk. Other times they pay more than a regular customer would because they are "renting" the book out to multiple people (read: loss of sales for the publisher). Either way, they have little to no control over the cost as they are required to purchase through specific distributors or from publishers directly.
OP in both of the last two stories seemed like a-holes.
“How dare they pay me money to work and expect me to actually do work”
“Yeah, the library is charging me for damaging a book when they supply thousands of books for free, I’ll show them by being an ass for no good reason”
Nicholas Ali Actually I agree, both stories just seemed a little off.
I agree for the last one. The library one wasn't too bad. There was no need to be a pest about it, but it does feel like it would be a little disingenuous for the library to charge him so they can buy a replacement book if they were going to keep using that one anyway.
@@andymcl92 they weren't going to keep using the damaged library book. No idea where you get that from...
And it makes sense that a replacement costs a bit more than the actual book since they likely have some extra costs involved, f.e. :
- shipping
- time for ordering and preparing the book for service
@@Robbedem I work in a Library and I can tell you a few things, first the Librarian was wrong to remove the sticker or try to, all she had to do was use a sharpie and black out the barcode.
Our books can cost more based on how old that book was, if we are ordering a new copy the price could have gone up, or we may have a new supplier whose prices change.
Shipping doesn't come into it so much because the book would be added to a bulk order. We do pay taxes on our books as well though and depending on the pst and gst in your location that can also make up the difference in cost.
The real cost of replacing a book can be in putting the new book into our system as each employee is paid by the hour so if they take the twenty minutes to put on the barcode, and identification stickers, then they are being paid for that as well which the end user never has to deal with that cost.
In my experience bale machines have a tipping feature when emptying the machine, you press the lift button and it tips over the bale onto a pallet which you then use a pallet jack to move it outside. 🤷🏻♂️
Though older, worn out units... such as the one in our store, can have trouble getting the ejection mechanism to fully catch, maybe a really lazy manager would neglect getting it fixed and try to work around it
@@UNSCPILOT I was maybe thinking he was just too stupid to know how to run the machine properly.
I used to be a trucker here in the states. I wouldn’t say it’s easy to get your license. Regardless of the route you go, company paid or government paid or self paid, you have to go to school. The best ones have you as a trainee between 2 and 3 months essentially. That’s from scratch to professional. It’s rather quick because the turnover is so high. It’s a shit job for exponentially shittier pay as time goes on. It wreaks havoc on your physical, mental, and emotional health unless you’re extremely disciplined.
Obviously, you have never tried to obtain a US CDL, mate.
Getting a CDL is easy.
Passing your CDL and maintaining it is a fucking nightmare.
Not that hard
it really depends on what class and endorsements you need
I've been working on getting one myself.
@@solostr7 Assuming class A.
The guy didn’t actually buy the damaged library book. He paid a fine (it was nice they didn’t charge a flat fee like some do). The library owned both books afterwards. He couldn’t take the book. He couldn’t charge for the book. The library was just nice enough to give the damaged book to him. They were likely required to removed the identification sticker. They were nice enough to not remove it. In short, the poster was an a**hole and they got away with it because the library didn’t want to put up with him. He probably could have gotten the same results by just asking nicely too. Or, say he lost the book; here’s the replacement.
In the US you previously only had to take a few written exams, general knowledge, air brakes, combination(tractor trailer), HAZMAT, Double/triple(road train), and tanker(tanker, dbl/tpl, HAZMAT, all optional endorsements) followed by a road test. Now you have to go to an accredited school to get your license. Most major carriers or carriers that hire inexperienced drivers also have their own course that you’ll likely have to complete or a training program that pairs you with another driver for an undisclosed amount of time or miles before putting you on your own. It was fairly easy but you still had training and courses after getting your license.
It’s by weight too, a straight truck that’s 26,000lbs or lighter doesn’t require a CDL, 26,001 requires a class B, 26,001 with a trailer under 10,000 is a class B, 26,001 with a trailer 10,001lbs requires a class A. Most straight trucks you see in my neck of the woods are -26,000 so they don’t have a CDL and can get sketchy.
All I’m gonna say is I live In Texas with family who works in the DPS office where they give CLD test (commercial drivers license) and the multiple test they have to take can be very difficult requiring large Amounts of studying to pass. You have to know what every part of the truck does and how to check all of it which the person does immediately before the driving portion of the test in front of the test giver. So all in all in Texas at least it is difficult to get a CDL and you have to know your stuff to get one
I got a letter saying I had not returned a library book and had to pay to replace it.
I argued that I had returned it but they insisted I had to pay. So I did, a month later I found the book in a bin of books the library was selling for a dollar. I showed them the book and my receipt but they refused to do anything about it so I bought the book for a dollar so that at least I had a something for my money. 📚
Yeah mate that's not on at all. But they might have had more than one copy of the book?
That's the rub it was the exact same book, they said they did not get back.
@@Hacksaw37 Because of the number of books I tend to check out at a time, I've had this happen a few times.
When they pushed, I would ask for them to walk the shelves with me. I could, generally, find the book on the shelves and that would clear the problem. I did buy more than one book, though, because I had made a mistake and returned it to the wrong library, or maybe it had gotten lost. Things happen. Life moves on. I always figured that the money was used to support a cause I liked, so no harm.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that unpleasantness, though.
In the US the main problem is most companies require you to not only have a license to drive a big rig, but also several years experience driving with trailers. You basically have to either work for less at companies that usually offer to pay for your CDL classes or be raised on a farm or ranch.
The helicopter guy, yeah, the manager was understandable, if a bit naïve. Comes with experience.
05:55 To get a CDL (commercial drivers license) in the US you have to go through multiple steps. Of course it varies by state but overall it is regulated by the Federal government on what must be achieved. You have to go though a 4-6 week training course to learn all the rules (FMCSA Regulations) and during that time you get a learners permit that allows you to drive with another person with a full CDL. Then towards the end of that course you take the test for the full CDL. If you pass then you start driving for a trucking company and they always pair you with a trainer for about 3 months before they sign off on your ability to solo drive safely. In all it takes appx 4 months to start driving a truck.
"It's really easy in the US to obtain a truck license"
No. No it isn't. REALLY easy for anything on 4 wheels, but for a class A CDL, you've got about 2500$ and a month of class.
Oh and the test is incredibly difficult.
It's probably harder in Sweden, but in the US, it isn't "really, really easy".
It took me three tries.
I agree. The tests also try doing trick or well make some (not all) of the questions in a confusing way to make sure people pay attention. You can only attempt the tests three times in one year and will have to wait a year if you fail them. That doesn't include the driving test either. There's also always three different versions of the tests but you only need to pass one of them. this is so no one can copy the questions and then pass the same test the second time by copying down the questions and memorizing their order. Sadly I failed all three of my tests each time missing only by one or two questions. For me this was like 10+ years ago and I ended getting another job that I liked more than I thought I would have.
True it is not easy to get the class A CDL but most truck drivers I have witnessed driving completely ignore a good amount of laws. It's the same for a driver's license for cars and the like. They can study to pass the test but once they have passed they toss all of that out of the window. People want to pick and choose what laws they will obey. I am tailgated, brake checked, pressured to go above the speed limit, and other similar things daily. Doesn't matter who it is I constantly get harassed. Sure it is not convenient to follow the law but throwing the law out of the window endangers everyone around you.
@@Servant-Of-The-King You're talking to someone who slow down if she catches herself at 2mph over the speed limit. I see *many* more cars violating traffic laws than trucks. The ramifications are higher for us.
4 wheelers just don't care.
In California you can do a break waiver. It was designed for the hospitality industry because when your in a rush or have tables you can't always break when the law says you should. Most of front and back of the house I've worked with use it and just cut it down to hits off a cigarette a few times a shift between tables or tickets. I've got stomach aches trying to eat to fast and get back into action. Here though money is King. Keep on working hard brothers and sisters.
I also live in California but in the healthcare field. If you miss your 30 min unpayed break or any of your 15 min payed breaks the company is supposed to pay you an extra hour of pay. if you work an 8 hour shift that is an hour of overtime for free. I think the company might get a fine from the labor board also but i am not sure. That is probably why the manager didn't want him working through lunch, it looked on the surface like an necessary expense.
I work 12 hr shifts so i sign away one a second lunch that i am supposed to get but i am still supposed to get a 30 min lunch and 4 15 min breaks.
When I worked at a library we always had a slightly higher charge than the RRP. But we also had a contract with a specific book supplier, we had to factor in shipping costs for ordering books in and we also had to process the books into the system, get them covered, stickered up, ect. They don't just arrive in a box and go straight on teh shelf. So ...extra cost for the book. There's no way around that. We need to buy it new.
When a book is damaged and needs replacing it usually goes back to the staff who process books so it can be reordered, assessed for whether it can be sold to patrons, and that specific book canceled in the system.
He didn't 'own' the book just because he paid for damages. She didn't have to give it to him. She could have thrown it out or sell it damaged in one of the book sales as a fundraiser. And she didn't have to deal with a jerk after doing him a favor.
Neith where I grew up we actually had laws regulating how library‘s were allowed to charge for books. Legally they were only allowed to charge the RRP for damage. They were only allowed to charge fees up to the RRP of the book for late fees and if they didn’t get the book back they were only allowed to charge twice the price of the book. Once for late fees and once for the book itself.
And if your library is keeping books they force people to pay the entire price of your library is a thief.
In the states they train you to pass the test only. They let it up to the company's that hire them to do the rest. And the trainers themselves have only 6 months of training. Can you see a problem?
You absolutely cannot be okay with an employee working through their lunch to leave early, that law is there for a reason, because lunch breaks cannot be made negotiable. If you later have to let go some employees, and one of them always eats, and one doesn't, you're going to retain the one not taking any breaks - and now signing that "I'm okay not taking a break" waver has just become a requirement for the position.
In my state, If you miss your 30 min unpayed break or any of your 15 min payed breaks the company is supposed to pay you an extra hour of pay. if you work an 8 hour shift that is an hour of overtime for free. I think the company might get a fine from the labor board also but i am not sure. That is probably why the manager didn't want him working through lunch, it looked on the surface like an necessary expense.
The "Wasting time" story pissed me off. Does the entitled prick not realize he is being paid to work! His bosses were super nice to him by finding work for him, paying him to basically do nothing. They probably invested hundreds of dollars into him by paying him when his help wasn't needed and they should have sent him home. And he paid them back by screwing them over when they needed it most!
In England it is illegal for a company to allow you to work continuously through the day without taking regular breaks, so the employer has a legal duty of care to ensure that you take your breaks.
[so as an example they are not allowed to let you work through your lunch break on the understanding that you can then knock off work early at the end of the day]
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If you do work through your lunch break and book it on your time sheet they are obliged by law to deduct the time that you should be taking a break.
Most good knowledgeable managers turn a blind eye to the staff time keeping and actually look at the production ethics and rates.
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1 employee does the work of two men and knocks off early and the other hangs the job out to book overtime but does half a day’s work... which one would you reward.
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Unfortunately the world is full of ignorant bosses who have no understanding of what the staff’s job entails so they enforce the only thing that they understand which is the timesheet.
Now that is a bad boss.
Depending on where you are, you are not legally allowed to waive rights to things like breaks. Due to things like employers forcing employees to "agree" or be fired if they didn't skip, etc.
Thanks for being amazing, Storytime. Love your content. Defeinitely need more r/supernovarevenge r/prorevenge and r/maliciouscompliance. I don't even read reddit, I listen to you tell them too me lol
Truck driving in the USA you have to take a course, learn how to drive a big rig, and pass a test both written and driven. It costs a lot, but there are companies that will pay for you to do it if you agree to work for them for a while. You just need a high school diploma. Once you have the license there are a LOT of rules about when you can drive, how long, how much down time you have to have, etc etc. They have to keep logs, and the cops can check the logs if they get pulled over.
In the EU you need about four to six weeks of training and pay at least 5000 € to get the lessons and the license (I´m not familiar any longer, so it might be even more today). There are not only the driving skills to learn, but also safety regulations, different laws you need to know, how to load and secure cargo, the braking systems and other technical things that you need to learn and how to do the paperwork. Trucking in Europe is international, so you need t know how to communicate in case of traffic controls. The laws about taking breaks are also very strict. There is also a device that monitors the speed and idle time. If the truck is checked the police controls the breaks and driving hours. You´ll get a fine if you don´t take the break or the break is too short and if your hours get too long. There is a dayly and weekly maximum amount of hours. If you have too many fines, you lose your license. The employer gets a fine as well in the same amount of money as the employee. So the employer can not force the workers to break rules and get a free pass. If it gets repeated, the operating company might pay extra fines and lose the right to operate trucks as well.
I'm an American long haul trucker.
In the US, trucking companies spring truck drivers to do stupid illegal dangerous stuff including exceed the hours of service regulations is a chronic problem. There is an entire federal law called the Surface Transportation Assistance Act that allows truckers to sue in court when companies do stuff like this and win big in court.
there's a second system where the complaint process is easier called the coercion rule under the control of the FMCSA. Controls the actions of trucking companies but also freight brokers, shippers and receivers all of whom are banned from pressuring truckers into doing illegal dangerous stupid stuff.
These rules only protect truckers who refused to violate the law and get punished as a result. We are expected to stand up to these bad guys and hold our ground.
Damaged books still remain property of the library... and the catalogued price above RRP is to cover processing (covering, cataloguong, delivery, etc.) sometimes the library will adjust that price for inflation or pettiness... so if you "loose" it, it's a $350 book, but you can probably get it elsewhere for sub-$100...
The US CdL can be a problem especially with endorsements such as Hazardous materials, doubles triples etc.and class A.
They always come up with a different or new off the wall requirement every few years for renewal..hours and breaks are critical a company a friend works for was taking a considerable risk several years ago by allowing some drivers to allow the drivers to miss log their hours on a well paying run.it was a run you could make under ideal conditions in a 11 hours but they were allowing some drivers to log it in 9 hours so they could make three trips a week it paid about between 500 and 600 USD per trip times 3 could range from 1500 to 1800 per week.
My friend was the one they put pressure on because he logged it legally.
Therefore he could make 3 trips one week but only 2 trips the next..because he would be out of service hours after the first trip of the following week those drivers who were illegally logging hours went to complaing when the company was required to put in the electronic logs
I am a US truck driver. And i dont really know how hard it is for the EU but i know that is tough in the US. We are driving large semi trucks across a large country. We go to school to get our licenses The test is extremely hard and companies put you through a test as well. The job is hard and deadlines are very tight most of the time.
Says stuff instead of crap.
Also says hell instead of heck.
Makes sense.
Also changed Richard, a nice way to say dick, to douche which I think is worse than dick. Also changed freak, to screw. Strange choice of word change.
Libraries have to pay more for a book than individuals do. Sad, but true.
Libraries do not normally remove the property of stickers as anyone can do that, but instead, normally stamp over it with a special stamp showing it no longer their property.
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Normal drivers licenses is way harder to get in the EU then US. Class B goes up to 3.5 tons and 8 passenger seats. It used to have *no* time limit, but even now it has a long one (decades?)
C class is trucks (more then 7.5 tons). D class is Busses (more then 8 passengers, no direct weight limit). You need a extended 1st Aid course (2 weeks rather then 2 days CPR) and have way more strict health requirements. And the licenses always were time limited.
And then there is also the whole Mandatory pause thing. And the very strict load security and general vehicle safety. And hte lower general speed limit (80 for Trucks, 100 for busses). Based on the severity of accidents those can cause, we do not just let everyone drive more then 3.5 tons of vehicle.
Oh and trucks are generally barred from driving Sunday, unless they carry spoilable goods.
And that is all I can tell from memory. I still have my B class book - but C and D literally have different books and tests.
11:55 The thing is, then he *still* owes the Library a book.
The original book was "damaged beyond returnability". So he had to make recompense.
In the US, you literally need to do the exact same thing as you need to do to get your driver's license, but it's for big trucks.
Being a commercial truck driver in europe is quite the ordeal. First of all, obtaining the licemse for commercial driving depends on the country. But where i live, for example, you have to take quite a few extra things like physical and psychologic tests, you have to learn the laws of your own country and of course manouvering the trucks through the good old cities and villages that were built in the web style, in difference to the blocked cities, because they were medieval small cities that had defense systems around and got their style from that. You also have to learn to drive in different terrain because of the alps and other mountain ranges. When you can do that you have to learn for your job. If you have a small scale operation radius that can be fairly easy, but international. Every countries law differs in terms of breaks, max load, max height, load safety, speedlimits, weekends, nighttime and such things. And lastly you have to plan every single trip with the eventualities of traffic jams, breakdowns, controls.
And the refugee crisis didnt help as Schengen countries started to control at the borders to find people gettimg smuggled on trucks so time for that had to be added.
In the US not every state requires you to take a break
@KnngCasim if you have a CDL in the USA its a federal law you have to take a 30 min break before the 8hr mark if you run a 14hr clock and go out of your 100 air mile from your home terminal. If you run a 12hr clock and stay inside 100 air mile from your home terminal you don't have to take the 30min break. They are talking about changing it up again in 2020
Driving rules are federal!!
@@dperry19661 There are federal laws and state laws governing driving.
@Faceless aquatics Not all delivery driving requires a CDL in the US it all depends on the truck and we don’t know what kind he was driving there aren’t enough details to make assumptions
States like AZ are jerks in the sense that they can make you not take a break. Drivers have different rules, but a friend was a manager at a food place and she got in trouble by the GM for letting people take their breaks. So yeah no breaks at a high volume fast paced work place is trashhhh.
Wage and hours doesn't care if you want to take you legally required break or not. The company is required to make you take it. If they get caught, they get fined whether you want to take that break or not. Yeah I have employers willing to take that gamble, but it depends on if you have the boss willing to lose their job over it or not.
American Interstate Truck Drivers have some different rules than Intrastate TDs, but mostly there is one major Commercial Driver's License for all of the USA. Only major exceptions are Mexican Drivers can drive all over the USA without taking a CDL test, without being able to read English signs or maps, and Foreign Drivers like Russians, etc. are given the same extremely low standards here. As I was challenged before on these answers, let me now state that I have taught a Russian from the area of Georgia how to unhook his trailer from his tractor (In Indiana) and translate to a Mexican man how to get back to Piedras Negras, Mexico, (Eagle Pass, Texas) from where we were at a warehouse close to Oneida, New York.
Truckers are an interesting bunch of dudes
For truck driving: I don't know how easy it is to get a CDL (I imagine it's about the same with a regular license, some people need more practice). I do know that drive times are strictly enforced (at least by the better trucking companies) to ensure safety.
To ensure no fines. But yeah, you ain't wrong.
My CDL school cost about the same. Was 3 months long all day. Morning in classroom. Afternoon in the truck. Not really easy as you assume, but not impossible. The U.S. does not hand them out like candy.
There is also all of the Laws/reqs covering the drivers of commercial vehicles, that normal driver do not have. One is the max allowable drive times.
*corrected for grammar issues.
I dont know why everyone is saying you have to go to school for a cdl?
It is alot harder in EU due to how hard our rules are about driving and rest and the bills we get are not small when or if we break the rules.
For semi trucks (aka the ones that haul the fifty foot or bigger trailers) in the US the laws are pretty strict too. They do not want exhausted drivers in loaded rigs.
@@RajaniIsa Considering that No-Doze and stronger drugs used to be part of trucking culture so people could meet their limits, and we're still having trouble with drivers and poor judgement calls, altered time sheets, and questionable practices, it was past time for everyone to start being more realistic about driving times and limits.
In some places in the United States, and in certain conditions, we are not allowed to waive our rights ... tenant rights is an example ... I believe work breaks is also not allowed to be waived, just about all my bosses were adamant about breaks, no matter what ... one boss would lock the doors, if you were caught inside, you were fired ...
Obviously its a lot more complicated in the EU. Its not as relaxed as in the US. In the EU, truck drivers have to be on break regularly, plus driving a truck in the EU is a whole different story, as, sure, only one trailer, but the rear swings out more and the roads are all narrower than in the US. Also, theres all the safety and stuff.
from what I know in US they are just as strict on breaks because it can cause a safety issue but I could be wrong.
@@Jyxorz Well, breaks probably just as strict, but as far as training in general driving, backing up, maneuvering around tight corners and tight city streets... Thats a skill you have to learn on your own in the US. in Europe, you already start learning that in driving school, because, surprise, streets are still fucking narrow.
@Timothy Newitt The street I live on in my city is barely big enough to fit a car and a bus next to each other. When two buses meet, one of them has to block an intersection, just so they can get by each other. (Still doesn't help that public transport in my city is hella unreliable. Always either late, early, or rarely punctual.
I disagree I failed 3 times in bc Canada for using the word good during pretrips
I'm a truck driver in the USA, we are allowed to work 14 hours in a day, with 11 of those allowed for driving. If you start your day at 8am, you must finish your work by 10pm. However, the 11 hours of driving can be divided up however you want in that 14 hour window. There are also more rules about how much you can drive in a week but that is more complicated and irrelevant to the story told.
I can't rememeber the exact reason why they did it, but when my grandfather was in the NYPD, they wanted him to have a CDL to drive a bus. As part of the training, they had him zig zagging around the support pillars of a elevated subway line.
Are you going to do the best of for Reese too? And finish up with your best ofs?
If you can work through your lunch and leave early, then you can punch out for lunch and still leave on time unless you're milking the clock.
Also keep in mind that while it's pretty easy to get a CDL in the US, it's also incredibly easy to lose one as well, especially since many trucking companies are brutal and very unethical in their business practices and they often push their drivers to violate laws. I've even known drivers who were given cocaine and meth by their dispatchers so they can make their long haul deliveries on time.
Shit every company i worked for fired you if your log was off by one hour. Its a huge fine for the company.
I have a Class-A CDL which means I can drive a semi with 53 foot trailer in the U.S. To get one you must be 21 years old, no felonies, pass a written test and physical which gets you a permit, then a driving test which is basically a scaled up version of the test you take for a car. You drive on the road, do an inline backing test, an offset backing test, then ether parallel park or a 90 degree ally dock. To be able to haul hazmat, tankers, or a double or triple trailer (they are shorter trailers) you have to take a written test for them as well. We have a lot of regulation, even you time is regulated. You can drive for 12 hours or be on duty for 14 hours (which ever time burns out first), you must have 10 hours between your end and start time, you have to take a 30 minute brake within X amount of time, and you can work 72 hours in a week but then have to shut down for 34 hours.
Your weight is regulated as well, you can weigh 80,000 LBs tops with X amount of weigh over your trailer wheels (tandems). Then with over sized loads, they can only drive during the day and hazmat haulers have to take different routs so they do not go through cities. California is a joke, they put WAY to many restrictions on trucks on top of the federal regulations. Now it has been a few years since I have driven trucks for a living so some of this may have changed a little.
The no felonies is false. When i took my test there were 3 guys there who had felonies they all passed and got CDLs
@@shrapnelslurpee as I said, things may have changed since I got mine
I think you've got it confused. In the US it is indeed super easy to get a license to drive a normal personal car, but getting the license to drive trucks is really intensive.
I should clarify this is about specifically semi trailer trucks. Lots of people own smaller pickup trucks for their personal car, and they aren't considered commercial vehicles so you don't need the fancy license for that.
OP paid £13.50 for damaging a book that was actually £8.99 and the librarian tore a page a little? I would have told her to pay the difference for it for damaging my property.
In the us it is very different
For driving most things you need a cdl which isn't too hard to get
If your driving dangerous things you need a hazmat
And there's alot of more specific liscences for other things it tends to be easier in the us but you have to renew more often and it costs almost double
I'm in the EU (I guess you are also until the end of January unless Brexit is postponed again) and know some older guy who has all the licenses on his driver's license. Because when he got his license you could just ask to have them all put on your driver's license. Today you have to take separate exams for each of them. But he still has all of the licenses, can drive trucks, touring cars etc. because they were grandfathered in).
Becoming a truck driver in the US. You are regulated by federal rules. Being a truck driver in the EU, Means driving between multiple different countries that all have varying degrees of rules. So, I'm assuming that is what takes so long. Also, there are Day time short haul and Long Haul drivers. For example, I live in Vermont. We have a company that employees team drivers that go from Vermont to California. That is all they do. And as Department of Transportation is tasked with managing ALL trucks. Under the Federal Government umbrella. The truckers don't have to know different countries/ states information like the EU drivers would. And it is not easy to become a truck driver. You still have to attend class and then drive with an instructor. You either have a log or your company monitors your truck via satellite communication. You can only drive a certain amount of hours per day. You must take breaks and sleep time. Being tired and over worked behind the wheel of a 18 wheeler is just an accident waiting to happen.
If it is the US, the employee cannot legally waive their lunch if they are working more than 6 hours.
When i worked at a grocery store they regularly denied me lunch then would wright me up for not taking it. So when my lunch came i would just go take it. After a while i got fired i took all my evidence to the labor board in my state. Ended up getting a decent settlement for wrongful termination. They also had huge fines because an investigation showed they were altering the hours on the time clock.
Some of these were just entitled adult babies IMO
Employment laws such as mandatory breaks are in place to provide a legal leg to stand on in case a company is abusing employees. Unfortunately, they can also be abused by the employees, in order to disrupt and sometimes destroy a business, as is the case with 99% of these malicious compliance stories. I hate how the OP always leaves off the part at the end when, after destroying the livelyhoods of everyone around them, they then start their own business from the ground up and do it properly, hiring back all of the innocent victims they left in their wake at a slightly increased wage with benefits. We'd really like to hear that part. Why don't you include it?🤔
US truckers are just interstate - EU truckers tend to be international. Our states tend to be the size of the EU's countries.
As for the Uni temp worker - so let's get this straight, OP got handed light busy work instead of getting laid off because there wasn't enough work, and he repaid the company by quitting as soon as the work came in? Sounds to me like he was just lazy and didn't want to actually work.
Library book. How is that your book ? You were replacing one you damaged. Thus the book was not yours.
In the US it takes a course of 9-17 weeks and an externship of 2-6 weeks of training to get OTR driving, local jobs with straight to trucks are hard because you usually need 1-2 years OTR experience.
Also we have different classes of licenses which have different requirements
I enjoy these stories and most of the time understand the reasoning behind the malicious compliance. HOWEVER... I don’t really agree with the way the end up causing the entire company to lose money and sometimes even shut down. That also causes a lot of innocent bystanders to lose their livelihood... idk just food for thought I guess..
Not to sure about EU and CanAm licensing, but Australia nationalised their licensing regulation 25yrs ago, although your license is still state/territory based it is standardised.. the license is graduated L - P1 - P2 - CAR - LR - MR - HR - HC - MC (the first three are Learners so must have a CAR or above supervisor next to you, P1 & P2 are probationary restricted regading alcohol and peer passengers) a CAR allows anything upto 4500kg GVM, Light Rigid is virtually the same but for commercial use. Medium Rigid is any GVM provided it's only two axles (so ~15,000kg) and no more than a 3000kg trailer. Heavy Rigid is almost identical, no limitation on axles, but the trailer remains. Heavy Combination is any single articulated vehicle either tractor-trailer or truck'n'dog (rigid truck ie. tiptruck and drawbar trailer, aka truck'n'pig if drawbar trailer is rigid rather than the lead axle pivoting)... Multi Combination is anything with multiple arcticulations like a B-double or roadtrains (upto Tractor - B Trailer - B Trailer- A Trailer - B Trailer - B Trailer- A Trailer - B Trailer - B Trailer- A Trailer... ~176m)
Libraries where I am at don't tear the sticker off they just permanent marker over it. Less chance of what happened there.
Take the librarian to small claims. Odds are you will get a judge that has had run-ins with an old hag librarian. Its only $35 to file.
Licencing isn't hard but DO NOT get caught breaking the rules for example if you are over weight they will fine you and your company by the pound the rate of the fine is discretionary so be nice also you cannot operate the vehicle so you need to unload some of your cargo before you can leave (I have been that driver that did extra work grabbing a couple of skids from a truck at the scales). Any company that operates trucks has a CVOR (commercial vehicle operating record) like a licence if it acquires too many fines in a period of time they undergo a safety audit and finally suspended from operating vehicles.
It is not easy to get a CDL ( commercial drivers license). You have to train at a truck driving school. Same for what I did. I drove school bus. Training before you take a test with the state. Interstate tests are even harder.
In the States you have to pass a written test and a driving test, to get your CDL. It is not easy, a few people I know use to teach a 6 month course on it, for the company they work for.
How easy is it to get a CDL? It depends on where you get it and whether it will be worth the plastic it's made from. Some companies will take you fresh off the street, get you a permit to learn, teach you themselves, and hand you a CDL. I've had to retrain several people like that. Many can't even back up a rig. A very, very small number of schools don't do much better.
Having the CDL, like any driver's license, just means you know the rules of the road (written exam) and can get the truck to go in the direction you want it to go (maneuvering pad and, if you pass those, on the local roads), it doesn't make you a good driver. That takes training and experience. Most good companies will take you out for at least a couple of weeks, IF you have a few years experience. Otherwise it is 2-3 months of training.
From this story, it sounds like a UPS sized truck. Oddly enough, you can drive an RV the size of a bus with just a regular drivers license.
BTW, I'm a driver. 14 years OTR. 1,000,000+ safe miles, and former trainer.
We had a company that was using pneumatic tankers to deliver lime and cement to a road project we were doing on morning a driver was almost 3 hours late, the company had installed electronic logs that had a badge reader that had to be inserted like a chip reader in a credit card he"d preloaded the truck the previous evening so he could leave at. 4 am he couldn't start the truck because by his chip in his badge he didn't have the legal required hours of rest between last duty period and start of his next marvelous technology of the electronic log..
I am a truck driver in the USA you need to pass a physical and take a class and real world driving course that is 3 weeks long not easy
I literally walked in and took a test then the next day took a driving test and received my CDL-A a week later.
#Storytime I use to drive trucks, it's easy enough to get a licence in AU, all I did was go for a driving lesson then after that do the driving test plus have a open drivers license
I dont get it? Son was mad at father for having him do the dishes? I hope he doesn't live rent free then, because if my kid did something so petty after living rent free I'd make him do even more chores.
Not justifying it here, because you are correct that it was super petty. But I do see the frustration. It appears (to me at least) that they had a deal that the son would do them in the morning and the dad changed his mind and wanted them done "right now." Which was really late and when son was getting ready for bed. Again, still petty and a dick move on the son's part to wake up mom. Easier to just do them quickly and go to bed.
set to x1.25 makes it easier to watch.
I'm going to have to disagree with you vehemently on the skipping lunch if you agree, because then that *spreads* and becomes an expectation for other employees. That's why it became law in the first place. It's way too easy for employers to coerce people to sign things away.
After being subbed and watching Jake’s other channel his voice has gone through reverse puberty
Getting cdl vary depending on the state...but maintaining dot physical requirements is a nightmare as they change the rules every 6 months
That last story annoyed me. You are getting paid to work. Not stand around, playing on your phone. Sweeping the floor or what not is the companies way of justifying your employment. I mean the fact you had to be asked to sweep is sad. If im at work and there isnt much to do ill pick up a broom and start sweeping. Or ask for something to do. Shows initiative and some work ethic.
Actually trucking schools pay the state testers to make sure you pass in alot of the US trucking schools
You're not allowed to move your break or not take it in germany. You have to do at least a 15 min break after 6 hours.
Ya in the us it’s called a CDL or commercial driving license and it’s a 64 hour class for one week you have to listen to instructional videos and the other 2 weeks is learning to drive and doing prechecks and post checks of your vehicle. There are also endorsements each endorsement is different like passenger, school bus, hazmat, and so on.
You dont need the class. Its pretty easy to pass. I passed first try.
Probably already been said (too lazy to search through the comments) but getting a class A license in the US is pretty easy. It's more annoying than anything.
Several companies here in usa are like that
you dont mess with truck driver hours in the us, it's easy to get in deep shit if you do
Tarpooling? Not tarpaulin?
I was wondering.
it would make sense if he use harder to get a license for Trucking since you have to go from country to country where as in the USA you're mostly traveling in the USA
Most states in the US you can only haul 2 trailers, very few can you haul 3 or double stacked.
EU = European Union, not Europe. There's a difference.
I actually wash dishes that late
A CDL (commercial driver’s license) for the USA is cheaper but you don’t make as much money
Getting a HGV licence this is for 40 ton standard HGV licence is a bigger responsibility and shouldn't be something easy to get as it is in usa, generally the easiest way you get a HGV licence in the UK/ EU is to go with a large trucking company as typically they have their own HGV learner vehicles and as long as you stay with them for at least I believe 3 years they will pay for the training and licence
Once you start getting into the more specialised vehicles like the 60 80 or 95+ ton HGVs,(dangerous materials, oil tankers, cranes, extreme heavy movers the ones where they have like 90 wheels on them) you get paid silly amounts of money on them type of vehicles on UK /EU as not many people have those type of licences and the amount of effort the person has to get those type of licences is a lot of work as well
lots of safety stuff more then the actual driving on the bigger stuff, driver has the legal right to ignore a boss or other site operators he is on if he believes its unsafe to move his specialised HGV