v8 greg I’m about to book my 200 in for the etc remap, soot clean and catch can installation. Still haven’t decided about the engine remap, is there a noticeable difference when towing and economy with the remap? If I go the remap all up I’m in the vicinity 5.5k so I have to choose carefully.
Met Rob at the 4x4 show in Melbourne. Absolute top bloke, really knows his stuff and more than happy to answer any questions. Will be booking in soon to my get V6 Amarok tuned.
I had my 200 series remapped a couple of months ago and the results were pretty similar to Shauno's tune. The 93% increase in torque, especially on the low rev range, and a more immediate throttle response is the one I'm after. It's a better drive on and off-road.
Like a kid in a candy store when it's time to look at taking it for a test drive. How good are these guys!? We love our tune they did for us, made a 100,000km truck a beast and better fuel economy and towing is day and night from the factory tune too
They're designed like that on purpose to act as a fuse point in the driveline. Just like the sheer points in the rear axles. I'd rather get out and bolt on a new hub in 10 minutes than replace a broken major driveline component.
@@jimbojones2457 Yep they're only designed for a certain application & certainly not for over GVM vehicles running bigger tyres than standard, which is why so many blow.
Mad Shaun I’ve seen every video of 4wd action but all the ones that have you in it are so much better I would love to get a cruiser but I’m only 12 so I’ll just have to keep asking
Emission standards probably keep your vehicle under power the most. I done a few little things (koff koff) to the EGR and it has made my d22 go so much better. Next is to install catch can and give the intake a good clean out. Then maybe get me one of these tunes
hey Shauno i see you are taking the LC97 to another level bro ....how awesome ... cant wait to see it in the a trips i have got toyota 2018 full option but no custom on it ...Emad sending this from dubai UAE
The key to 'Tuning' is so simple: 1.Blind the client with science 2.Clean out the engine intake - this takes time and makes the client think you know your stuff! 3.Faff about with lots of computers, this is very important to justify a huge bill. 4.When the client goes out for a bacon sarnie, quickly remove a few gallons of fuel and replace with high octane aviation fuel. 5.Demonstrate the new huge power gains on the dyno! 6.Get the bill paid and watch another happy client drive off with his extra performance........
Questuin: Have these guys got/shared their methods with anyone in NZ? By far the best and most peace of mind system of 'tuning' I have come accross....but I am on the wrong side of the ditch to bring my vehicle in.
whats the name of that cleaning system. im not in Aussie so i cant see you guys, but would love to see if we have someone who does that kinda of clean over this side of the ditch!
Just got back my 1FZ from the tuner with Turbo Fitted. On LPG 172KW and 750Nm, 98 Octane 230KW and 890Nm. Turbo rear house 0.86 and its making 120KW and 630Nm at 1900rpm
What you don't get told is how you have to upgrade everything. With that power increase you're going to have slipping clutches and you'll begin breaking driveline parts. So it ends up an expensive exercise. But hey, what the hell.... how much fun would it give you. Epic.
My understanding of NCOP suggests that any vehicle which produces >20% increase in Power and Torque, over the factory specifications, needs to be Blue Plated in Qld. Is the cost of Blue Plating included in the Custom Tune when they exceed 20% increase in Power & Torque? Or does everyone just turn a blind eye to the fact that they are now potentially driving a vehicle that is no longer insured, because it's 'technically' not Roadworthy?
I've always wondered, when they're dyno tuning a vehicle with a snorkel, how much difference it would make if they had road speed air going over the snorkel head?. Having the ram-air effect from a proper snorkel, or drawing from the low pressure turbulence behind a backward stainless one.
@@gaj5701 I've heard that said a lot, but I'd be really interested to see it demonstrated, unfortunately dyno shops generally don't have a second fan they can task to blow at the snorkel, so nobody does it.
@@tareskisloki8579 I'm an automotive design engineer & the whole intake system on a production vehicle is designed to operate consistently in almost any situation. Think about the diffusion & restriction of increased intake pressure through the bends in pipes, various diameters of pipework, filter box, any damping chambers, the turbo, intercooler, split in the manifold & you have virtually no perceptible increase in pressure left. Ram air systems are designed around that specific principle to be effective, however all we do is modify the initial intake of an existing system which is designed for consistency so it has no real effect.
Just wondering, would it effect the tune if I got it done now on 16inch alloys and 33’s and then later got 18inch alloys and 35’s or would the tune not be effected? Guess the real question I’m asking is, would mods down the track effect the performance of the tune? Example, wheels, tyres sizes, bull bar? Answer would be much appreciated 🤘🏾
Best get that trailer full of drive shafts ready for the next trip Shauno? You'll have to adapt your big right foot a bit, mate. Can't wait for the track test.
It seams everybody tunes and makes videos on 79, 80 series land cruisers. What sort of gains are expected from a 2010 sr5 hilux with 90,000kms . Hilux’s are more common and affordable for the average bloke. A video on these would be good. It’s a process I’m interested in doing but at what cost. Cheers Gaz
Knowing how you drive i can see massive driveline carnage in your future. All the farmboys out this way have done all that and the mechanics are making a killing on replacing trashed 79 gear. But hell thats going to be fun to drive. Overall thumbs up👍👍
Interesting comment @4.35 'They (manufacturers) need to meet emission standards'. So a retune does not need to meet emission standards? I see plenty of black soot out the exhaust of tuned 4WD's (maybe not ones from Ultimate Diesel)
By how fast Shauno did the outro of the video, I'm guessing he went straight to the nearest trail to do some quality testing. Can not blame him one bit, I just hope the camera person had a ride home.
Nothing is for free. If It was more economical and you got more power, the factory would have done it. Again, you don't get ANYTHING for free. By the pure nature of it, the longevity of the motor will be decreased and the carbon output will be greater. Without any internal mods, it's impossible to avoid.
You should research what people are doing with VW TDI engines, specifically the ALH. They are getting more power and fuel mileage with simple upgrades and tuning. And nobody said anything was free, someone has to pay to get the truck tuned. The carbon output will only increase with a bad tune. If tuned properly the carbon output will stay the same or decrease due to the air/fuel ratio being tuned for the engine and not just an off the shelf factory tune. Also, a catch can will keep any carbon out of the intake, why don't vehicles have catch cans from the factory? Vehicle manufacturers want you to buy more expensive vehicles if you want more power, hence why they undertune almost every vehicle they sell. As far as internal mods, have you seen what the stock bottom end of a 2JZGTE can handle? Your comments are naive and ignorant.
It's not just the motor, no point having insane power at the flywheel if you have broken diffs, CVs, trannys. The whole drive train needs to be modified to support the doubling of torque. I doubt Toyota would have engineered this to support double the torque the stock motor could have handled. If you go ahead and upgrade everything up to the rims, then yeah, go for it. But would have been good to point out upgrades don't stop at the motor.
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning i wonder why then, and its not a crack at all, I'm genuinely interested, why then do Toyota not make the best possible product they can? Why do they "de-tune" for reliability purposes? Surely, if you then re-tune, it will reduce that original reliability? So instead of 50 years, it may be expected that you only get sat 40 years... Not something most would care about. But DOUBLING the torque NEVER comes at no price. And I'm not taking $$$ for those confused. If i double the torque, I double the stress that any given level of torque is producing. I'm not saying it's not sustainable, I'm simply saying it's not deniable. And what is the result of that extra stress? That's my only queery.
@@wagypsyif you think of it this way, there are far too many variables for a manufacturer to "tune" every vehicle. Altitude and air density for example will make a big difference. Manufacturer may be based at or around sea level and knows he has to hit certain criteria, e.g. hp level, emissions etc. However, he doesn't know if the vehicle is going to be exported to central America and be at an average of 2,000 feet above sea level, which changes his whole tune characteristics. So, rather than write a thousand different tunes for the same vehicle, based on where in the world they are shipped, they aim for the target hp, torque and emissions figures. And there will always be some safety factors in there as well, because the manufacturer won't be able to control the maintenance of the vehicle. Proper tuning of the vehicle to suit local conditions will always unlock more power and, if done right, also increase fuel economy, as the engine is basically being optimized for the local conditions and environment. And the majority of people that will get a professional tune done are the ones that are most likely to do proactive maintenance on their vehicles, which will usually increase the lifespan over and above the anticipated.
Here in South Africa I did a similar tune and we lucky that we can delete the egr and remove the dpf as we not policed on this. My old 2009 Triton 2.5 LP is a different vehicle to drive and turbo lag is a non issue.
Man I have been umming and arrring about taking my ranger to these boys and getting them to tune it for agesss but being as its a daily driver I wasn't sure about reliability thanks for the video answered all my questions will be hitting them up just as soon as I can get the funds together lol
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning spewing all good ive just had my ute serviced from my understanding when you guys do your soot clean you service the car aswell? or change the oil if that's the case ill be booking a tune in 10 000 ks lol
Every tuners favorite word CUSTOM tune. A safe tune doesn’t need to be custom tune. From factory they all have the same map loaded into ecu. Yes live tuning might get a few kilowatts but nothing wrong with a generic map.
Damn this vid got me thinking about the tuning again. One thi g I did mis in this video is what budget are we talking about. Okay I'm based in Europe so I know there will be a difference but would be nice to have an idea. Also how do you find the right tuner. I'm driving a Prado 120 and I hear often that Toyota have build in a lot of security to prevent people tweaking their car. Damn I wish I could have a go at Shaun's ride. Looks so great
Love your work fellas.... But a Dyno Video with a V8 with a 4 Inch exhaust and we don't get any video of a power run? Any of the noise at all? I just want to hear it! You guys are always saying how good some of the rigs sound but you never edit the sound into it! Stop teasing Please! :)
That’s fine having more torque etc - however I assume a heavy duty clutch & 4” exhaust are added requirements in achieving the ultimate in performance requirements.
More power = more fuel. No two ways about it, sorry! Increasing torque does NOT reduce fuel economy in the real world, where modern engines have plenty of torque to pull any gear anyway, so the benefits from downspeeding are not practically realisable. The way you CAN improve economy at a fixed power level on an aftermarket diesel tune is to run leaner (Exhaust NOx goes through the roof, hence the OEs can't do this), reduce the EGR ratio (NOx issue again) or to run with a more advanced injection angle (burn the charge at a lower chamber volume) and put up with the increased combustion noise and peak pressure (OEs are mind full of the engines high cycle fatigue limits and have NVH (cabin and exterior) targets to meet.
This has to be the most intelligent comment on here! I'm a Toyota tech and this information is correct! I own a 79 series and i will NOT be touching the perfect factory tune! Millions of dollars is spent on tuning these bulletproof engines in Japan to last a long time reliably. You absolutely cannot kill these engines in standard form. Unless you neglect them in a servicing aspect (oil, filters, etc). And in that situation that's your fault, not the manufacturer's. Great comment mate!
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning As the road load of the vehicle is unchanged (mass + aero drag + rolling drag) for any given speed the road load will be fixed, and hence the power requirement at the wheels is also fixed (power = vehicle speed x tractive effort). So for Shauno to drive at any given speed takes exactly the same wheel power as it did before the remap. Now the engine is of course linked to the wheels via the gearbox, so Shauno can change the engine speed for any given road speed by changing gear, but power always equals speed x torque, so change up, the engine speed drops due to the higher gear, and the engine must make more torque to keep the same power. For example, say sitting in 3rd gear the engine is doing 4000 rpm, and making 100Nm, that's a power output of 41.9kW. Change up, and let engine speed drop to 2000rpm, and for the same 41.9kW, the engine must now output 200Nm That is simply a result of the laws of physics and cannot be changed! What CAN be changed is the engines efficiency in turning fuel into useful work, either by increasing the thermal efficiency (capturing more heat from the burning fuel) or reducing frictional and parasitic losses (ie wasting less of the energy released from the fuel) Downspeeding (running the engine at the lowest possible rotational speed, ie the highest gear) does indeed save (a small amount) of fuel, because it minimised engine frictional losses, but, those losses are only really important at low loads (FMEP would typically be in the order of 5 to 10 kW), so the only fuel saving possible comes when the engine is already at maximum torque and therefore you cannot change up and maintain the same vehicle speed. But at maximum torque, you are miles away from "peak economy" so if you want to save fuel, just slow down (reduce your vehicle speed) a bit, and you'll get a massive fuel saving compared to the couple of percent that even aggressive diwnspeeding can deliver. Particularly as aero drag is proportional to the cube of speed, so small reductions in average speed bring large power requirement reductions, and hence large economy benefits. And if Shauno is accelerating harder, then hsi average speed will be higher, and hence the average drag is higher, and hence he'll be using more fuel to drive the same distance. It's also worth noting that with modern engines, where the driver demand is scaled to a torque demand by the engine management, the position of the drivers foot is, broadly, irrelevant. Simply by remapping the pedal map, you can make a vehicle feel to the driver like they have to accelerate less to get the same speed, but the engine operation is actually unchanged. As i mentoned before however, freed from the (oneous) requirements of certification and legislation, it IS possible to get a production enigne to make more power via a higher overall thermal efficiency leveraging a fixed fuel mass, using the measures i highlighted in my previous comment (EGR/Injection angle/Pmax) but those measures were not taken by the OE for good reason (like for example, passing emissons legislation, something your new remap would not do)
Max Torque what dribble are you talking. I myself have my vehicle tuned, it isn’t a 79 series but the point being made here is fuel economy. Now I don’t give a dam about all your facts and figures I myself can confidently say that when I drive my vehicle sensibly I get better economy. I drive the same way to work every day with the same weight give or take way + or - 50l of fuel so my figures are pretty dam accurate. So for me and I recon a lot of other people would agree if driven sensibly you will be better economy, it’s simple. Even though you are making more power and more torque, you are using less power and less torque to get to speed and to maintain speed. I will also add, if I drive like an idiot it will also chew through the fuel faster then the “so called brilliant” factory tune. So I respect your comment but kindly I disagree. 👍🏻 Day to day driving for the majority of people would see an improvement.
@@bloodyterrific you say. 1) you "don’t give a dam all your facts and figures" 2) "you are making more power and more torque, you are using less power and less torque" I for reference have 30 years of powertrain calibration experience with the major OEMs including toyota, ford, aston martin bentley, GM, BMW, and have been part of the team that has developed F1, LeMans, and WTC winning race engines. When i measure fuel economy i use a state-of-the-art facility, that cost £100M to precisely and repeatibly determine all the metrics for any given vehicle. Now i get it, people who've spent money on a remap want to believe that somehow there new map can give both more power and ore econonmy at the same time, but i'm sorry, mostly it can't. I say mostly because as mentioned there are specific mapping points where the thermal efficiency of the engine can be improved beyond the OE settings due to a lack of constraints for aftermarket post registration remaps, but those points are no where near the loads sites at which you would drive if you actually had max economy in mind. You say "my figures are pretty dam accurate" what are you using to measure those figures? To get an accurate figure you need an independantly (and traceable/calibrated) fuel flow measurement and vehicle distance measure. The gauges on your dash, or the read out on the garage fuel pump are no way near good enough. BTW, i am in no way knocking UDT's work, i just think that it's good to have some realism in such complex subjects for the good of everyone
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning How does "soot" result in an engine that uses less fuel? (Hint, soot is actually an insulator, so a sooty engine will generally use less fuel because the overall thermal gradient is higher to ambient......) BTW, i'm sure your customers do use less fuel after the remap, but only because they are subconciously driving slower /more carefully. It's call the placebo effect and it's very real, especially in cases where people have spent money to achieve something but they have no objective measure of the success of that measure.
Why don’t they clean the intake manifold BEFORE doing the first baseline? Seems to me a big part of the gain may well in fact be coming from the clean and not just the tune?
Shauno's face with snorkel air intake noise. classic
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Had my 200 series tuned last week with a fairly low key towing tune, made 185kw and 650nm at the wheels running 33s. Very happy with UDT.
Hmm interesting I've got work done on my 200 and i have great gains in power and tourqe with what I got and I'm very happy with it
v8 greg I’m about to book my 200 in for the etc remap, soot clean and catch can installation. Still haven’t decided about the engine remap, is there a noticeable difference when towing and economy with the remap? If I go the remap all up I’m in the vicinity 5.5k so I have to choose carefully.
Had my 2.8 Hilux remap and dpf delete done. Torque nearly doubled also. Now get 1000k’s per tank instead of 800. Love it!
Awesome stuff Jarrad :D
Met Rob at the 4x4 show in Melbourne. Absolute top bloke, really knows his stuff and more than happy to answer any questions. Will be booking in soon to my get V6 Amarok tuned.
I had my 200 series remapped a couple of months ago and the results were pretty similar to Shauno's tune. The 93% increase in torque, especially on the low rev range, and a more immediate throttle response is the one I'm after. It's a better drive on and off-road.
Like a kid in a candy store when it's time to look at taking it for a test drive. How good are these guys!? We love our tune they did for us, made a 100,000km truck a beast and better fuel economy and towing is day and night from the factory tune too
I doubt you have better fuel economy? Where's your proof? More power, more fuel. I smell bullshit.
@@hartzland7658more power the less throttle you gotta use simple
Hope you got 94% stronger drive hubs as Toyota seem to source those for their heaviest vehicles from a remote control toy car catalogue 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 Maaaad.
They're designed like that on purpose to act as a fuse point in the driveline. Just like the sheer points in the rear axles. I'd rather get out and bolt on a new hub in 10 minutes than replace a broken major driveline component.
@@jimbojones2457 makes sense, just means you need to upgrade the driveline components when you add power.
@@bobouistic exactly. And nobody does that.
@@jimbojones2457 Yep they're only designed for a certain application & certainly not for over GVM vehicles running bigger tyres than standard, which is why so many blow.
Mad Shaun I’ve seen every video of 4wd action but all the ones that have you in it are so much better I would love to get a cruiser but I’m only 12 so I’ll just have to keep asking
Same but im only 11 lol
I guess we both have to keep waiting
Tim B by the time he gets his license it will be all hybrid cars (electric cars )
William John I really hope it’s not
Ya a 79 series is my dream Ute I’m only 12 to ill just keep asking
U not the only one
One swig of JD every time Shaun says '79 series' and you're totally wasted in 19mins and 36sec😂 Another great in depth vid guys👍
I was just about to book in a remap with a diesel tuning workshop and this cleared up so many questions, cheers boys 👍
double the Torque under 2000rpm on factory injectors\pump\turbo is pretty impressive, Toyota had that thing set super conservative, fascinating!
How much does this cost???? Looks expensive
79 series is my dream ute now I know where to get my tuned when I’m older
4WD action on a Thursday? I think so
Emission standards probably keep your vehicle under power the most. I done a few little things (koff koff) to the EGR and it has made my d22 go so much better. Next is to install catch can and give the intake a good clean out. Then maybe get me one of these tunes
another great thursday arvo
192.7 HP and 481.2 Ft lbs
For all the fellow American boys
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Not murican but I like these units better. Thanks!
laughs in dodge ram factory specs, a real v8 diesel
@@superhacker101 the cummins is an inline six
You are a true gentleman ty 😁
Thank you, was just about to google!!!
Man the best Toyotas are made in Australia.
Interesting engine clean process. Who don't love a healthy loud-pedal?
hey Shauno i see you are taking the LC97 to another level bro ....how awesome ... cant wait to see it in the a trips
i have got toyota 2018 full option but no custom on it ...Emad sending this from dubai UAE
The key to 'Tuning' is so simple:
1.Blind the client with science
2.Clean out the engine intake - this takes time and makes the client think you know your stuff!
3.Faff about with lots of computers, this is very important to justify a huge bill.
4.When the client goes out for a bacon sarnie, quickly remove a few gallons of fuel and replace with high octane aviation fuel.
5.Demonstrate the new huge power gains on the dyno!
6.Get the bill paid and watch another happy client drive off with his extra performance........
Awesome increase! I’m surprised you didn’t do a bit of urban bush cooking in their lunch room in the workshop 👍
And my ol lux is pushing a whopping 47kw, such a tractor the old rig is but it's never stopped running yet.. touch wood
CRACK A- TINNI TRIBE same mate, hahahah
That's awesome power Shaun can't believe the gains
Questuin: Have these guys got/shared their methods with anyone in NZ?
By far the best and most peace of mind system of 'tuning' I have come accross....but I am on the wrong side of the ditch to bring my vehicle in.
Can't wait to see it on a trail!
Shuano is so excited!
Gosh I wish we could get this platform here in the State’s.
Just cleaning the intake system will give you better fuel efficiency and greater torque.
whats the name of that cleaning system. im not in Aussie so i cant see you guys, but would love to see if we have someone who does that kinda of clean over this side of the ditch!
Nice work by the Ultimate Diesel Tuning team
Just got back my 1FZ from the tuner with Turbo Fitted. On LPG 172KW and 750Nm, 98 Octane 230KW and 890Nm. Turbo rear house 0.86 and its making 120KW and 630Nm at 1900rpm
um.. cost?
am waiting for another 4WD action with the 79' cruiser
4wd action should start posting their videos and trips in series and episodes on Netflix 🤩
What you don't get told is how you have to upgrade everything. With that power increase you're going to have slipping clutches and you'll begin breaking driveline parts. So it ends up an expensive exercise. But hey, what the hell.... how much fun would it give you. Epic.
I don't believe it, an Aussie lost for words? That grin says it all though.
Awesome setup, when are we gonna see it in action? Really looking forward to seeing it on the trails. 👍
My understanding of NCOP suggests that any vehicle which produces >20% increase in Power and Torque, over the factory specifications, needs to be Blue Plated in Qld. Is the cost of Blue Plating included in the Custom Tune when they exceed 20% increase in Power & Torque? Or does everyone just turn a blind eye to the fact that they are now potentially driving a vehicle that is no longer insured, because it's 'technically' not Roadworthy?
I've always wondered, when they're dyno tuning a vehicle with a snorkel, how much difference it would make if they had road speed air going over the snorkel head?. Having the ram-air effect from a proper snorkel, or drawing from the low pressure turbulence behind a backward stainless one.
Almost no measurable difference in a standard setup, unless you've heavily modified the filter & found a straight path to the inlet.
@@gaj5701 I've heard that said a lot, but I'd be really interested to see it demonstrated, unfortunately dyno shops generally don't have a second fan they can task to blow at the snorkel, so nobody does it.
@@tareskisloki8579 I'm an automotive design engineer & the whole intake system on a production vehicle is designed to operate consistently in almost any situation. Think about the diffusion & restriction of increased intake pressure through the bends in pipes, various diameters of pipework, filter box, any damping chambers, the turbo, intercooler, split in the manifold & you have virtually no perceptible increase in pressure left. Ram air systems are designed around that specific principle to be effective, however all we do is modify the initial intake of an existing system which is designed for consistency so it has no real effect.
Have you guys ever done a remap on the 2.8L Cummins in the Foton Tunland. If so what increases could one expect?
Just wondering, would it effect the tune if I got it done now on 16inch alloys and 33’s and then later got 18inch alloys and 35’s or would the tune not be effected? Guess the real question I’m asking is, would mods down the track effect the performance of the tune? Example, wheels, tyres sizes, bull bar? Answer would be much appreciated 🤘🏾
How much coin for the dyno shawno
Best get that trailer full of drive shafts ready for the next trip Shauno? You'll have to adapt your big right foot a bit, mate. Can't wait for the track test.
Steinbauer not sponsoring you this year?
It seams everybody tunes and makes videos on 79, 80 series land cruisers. What sort of gains are expected from a 2010 sr5 hilux with 90,000kms . Hilux’s are more common and affordable for the average bloke. A video on these would be good. It’s a process I’m interested in doing but at what cost.
Cheers Gaz
Knowing how you drive i can see massive driveline carnage in your future. All the farmboys out this way have done all that and the mechanics are making a killing on replacing trashed 79 gear. But hell thats going to be fun to drive. Overall thumbs up👍👍
Very well said mate. People just can't help themselves and keep their vehicle stock and reliable.
"RELIABLE" a buzz word without definition.
Shaun , just to give me a rough idea what did the whole lot cost , because the idea looks brilliant ?
Nice work shauno, even sounds harder, how many rigs do u own, is it hard to decide what rig u take on a trip
It would be great to find the same diesel tuning that can be completed in New Zealand?
Gnarly mate what a cooker 😆 congratulations Shauno what an awesome rig! Cheers from Canada can’t wait to see the power gains in action 😀
Sitting in bed raining miserable as then I see a vid with shauno perfect!!! Mood changed
Want to see more of the Dirty 30 build
Very cool. Can't wait to see you hit the trails with it now that you have it turned up
Amongst all the Japanese and I would say all other manufacturers Toyota is the wisest choice for spending your money on
Who thinks that they need to redo the intro to 4WD Action to include the 30 and 79 after they get the 30 finished!!!
How much ?
Make sure your warranty period is over if it's not it will be once you do this
Keep up the great work. Love the videos. Awesome
Very nice, very inspiring for me to build up my own great channel
Interesting comment @4.35 'They (manufacturers) need to meet emission standards'. So a retune does not need to meet emission standards? I see plenty of black soot out the exhaust of tuned 4WD's (maybe not ones from Ultimate Diesel)
The "tunes" are made by brodozers that only understand more fuel means more power
For a second there I thought 'Oh wow Shauno is damn short !' then I realized the 79 is on a platform.
@@Lewythefly Thanks for the correction, edited. :)
By how fast Shauno did the outro of the video, I'm guessing he went straight to the nearest trail to do some quality testing. Can not blame him one bit, I just hope the camera person had a ride home.
Nothing is for free. If It was more economical and you got more power, the factory would have done it. Again, you don't get ANYTHING for free.
By the pure nature of it, the longevity of the motor will be decreased and the carbon output will be greater. Without any internal mods, it's impossible to avoid.
you cant convince those who wont be convinced , he even admitted that the factories de-tune for longevity 4:29 to 4:50
You should research what people are doing with VW TDI engines, specifically the ALH. They are getting more power and fuel mileage with simple upgrades and tuning. And nobody said anything was free, someone has to pay to get the truck tuned. The carbon output will only increase with a bad tune. If tuned properly the carbon output will stay the same or decrease due to the air/fuel ratio being tuned for the engine and not just an off the shelf factory tune. Also, a catch can will keep any carbon out of the intake, why don't vehicles have catch cans from the factory? Vehicle manufacturers want you to buy more expensive vehicles if you want more power, hence why they undertune almost every vehicle they sell. As far as internal mods, have you seen what the stock bottom end of a 2JZGTE can handle? Your comments are naive and ignorant.
It's not just the motor, no point having insane power at the flywheel if you have broken diffs, CVs, trannys. The whole drive train needs to be modified to support the doubling of torque. I doubt Toyota would have engineered this to support double the torque the stock motor could have handled. If you go ahead and upgrade everything up to the rims, then yeah, go for it. But would have been good to point out upgrades don't stop at the motor.
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning i wonder why then, and its not a crack at all, I'm genuinely interested, why then do Toyota not make the best possible product they can? Why do they "de-tune" for reliability purposes? Surely, if you then re-tune, it will reduce that original reliability? So instead of 50 years, it may be expected that you only get sat 40 years... Not something most would care about. But DOUBLING the torque NEVER comes at no price. And I'm not taking $$$ for those confused.
If i double the torque, I double the stress that any given level of torque is producing. I'm not saying it's not sustainable, I'm simply saying it's not deniable. And what is the result of that extra stress? That's my only queery.
@@wagypsyif you think of it this way, there are far too many variables for a manufacturer to "tune" every vehicle. Altitude and air density for example will make a big difference. Manufacturer may be based at or around sea level and knows he has to hit certain criteria, e.g. hp level, emissions etc. However, he doesn't know if the vehicle is going to be exported to central America and be at an average of 2,000 feet above sea level, which changes his whole tune characteristics. So, rather than write a thousand different tunes for the same vehicle, based on where in the world they are shipped, they aim for the target hp, torque and emissions figures. And there will always be some safety factors in there as well, because the manufacturer won't be able to control the maintenance of the vehicle.
Proper tuning of the vehicle to suit local conditions will always unlock more power and, if done right, also increase fuel economy, as the engine is basically being optimized for the local conditions and environment. And the majority of people that will get a professional tune done are the ones that are most likely to do proactive maintenance on their vehicles, which will usually increase the lifespan over and above the anticipated.
Robs face on the test drive though.... Says it all lol. 😊😆
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning quality cheeser of a grin there, hahaha good stuff!
Thanks for sharing m8. 😉👍
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What can you do for my 2009 79 Series with 108km on the clock. I use it for towing a 3.5 ton caravan and usually tow in 4th at around 3000 revs
Has anyone mentioned cost? I want to do this but can I afford it?
Here in South Africa I did a similar tune and we lucky that we can delete the egr and remove the dpf as we not policed on this. My old 2009 Triton 2.5 LP is a different vehicle to drive and turbo lag is a non issue.
Really interesting video, so what would it cost to tune Shaunos V8?
About a 19 minute video.
16:07 his face when you said towing wasn't happy ahah
Can’t wait for the next episode with your truck mate
You'll love that fuel economy after the remapping of ecu.
Love the show...love the 79! With the big torque increase how fast are you upgrading the drive train? How is that increase going to affect it?
Hi mate! At the time we tuned Shauno's rig, he had already upgraded his clutch. And that is all that's needed, the rest of the driveline is strong.
Awesome I’m planning on take my Jeep there very soon 👌👌
Good Video Mate
Gday Shauno, there was no mention about replacing the clutch in the video. Had you already done that job or did you replace it yourself?
Man I have been umming and arrring about taking my ranger to these boys and getting them to tune it for agesss
but being as its a daily driver I wasn't sure about reliability
thanks for the video
answered all my questions
will be hitting them up just as soon as I can get the funds together lol
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning sounds good you guys are in dandy yer?
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning spewing all good
ive just had my ute serviced
from my understanding when you guys do your soot clean you service the car aswell? or change the oil
if that's the case ill be booking a tune in 10 000 ks lol
Every tuners favorite word CUSTOM tune. A safe tune doesn’t need to be custom tune. From factory they all have the same map loaded into ecu. Yes live tuning might get a few kilowatts but nothing wrong with a generic map.
Damn this vid got me thinking about the tuning again. One thi g I did mis in this video is what budget are we talking about. Okay I'm based in Europe so I know there will be a difference but would be nice to have an idea. Also how do you find the right tuner. I'm driving a Prado 120 and I hear often that Toyota have build in a lot of security to prevent people tweaking their car. Damn I wish I could have a go at Shaun's ride. Looks so great
GET OFF ROAD ALL READY SHAUNO !!!!!
How much does it cost and do they do petrol as well and do they have a place in Cairns
Looking forward to seeing it out on the tracks
Love your work fellas.... But a Dyno Video with a V8 with a 4 Inch exhaust and we don't get any video of a power run? Any of the noise at all? I just want to hear it! You guys are always saying how good some of the rigs sound but you never edit the sound into it! Stop teasing Please! :)
That’s fine having more torque etc - however I assume a heavy duty clutch & 4” exhaust are added requirements in achieving the ultimate in performance requirements.
Great vid love the reaction at the end, like a kid at christmas time.
Very thorough video. What's an estimate for pricing though?
2 - 3 guys tuning for 8 hours doesn't sound cheap.
i'd also like to know. the gift of sponsors
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning Thanks for the reply
It doesn't take 3guys & 8hrs to dyno tune a engine. The cleaning of the manifold is another story.
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning Can you just give us a range please $X for basic tune up to $Y for full on with the works?
I love 4wd action
Just got the dominatri x winch on my patrol
Hey Shauno.
How's that tune going 2 years later? Any issues or changes to parameters set?
Gonna get one done on the 76 series👍
Thanks
Mick
Hi Michael, yes it is fine mate!
More power = more fuel. No two ways about it, sorry! Increasing torque does NOT reduce fuel economy in the real world, where modern engines have plenty of torque to pull any gear anyway, so the benefits from downspeeding are not practically realisable.
The way you CAN improve economy at a fixed power level on an aftermarket diesel tune is to run leaner (Exhaust NOx goes through the roof, hence the OEs can't do this), reduce the EGR ratio (NOx issue again) or to run with a more advanced injection angle (burn the charge at a lower chamber volume) and put up with the increased combustion noise and peak pressure (OEs are mind full of the engines high cycle fatigue limits and have NVH (cabin and exterior) targets to meet.
This has to be the most intelligent comment on here! I'm a Toyota tech and this information is correct! I own a 79 series and i will NOT be touching the perfect factory tune! Millions of dollars is spent on tuning these bulletproof engines in Japan to last a long time reliably. You absolutely cannot kill these engines in standard form. Unless you neglect them in a servicing aspect (oil, filters, etc). And in that situation that's your fault, not the manufacturer's. Great comment mate!
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning As the road load of the vehicle is unchanged (mass + aero drag + rolling drag) for any given speed the road load will be fixed, and hence the power requirement at the wheels is also fixed (power = vehicle speed x tractive effort). So for Shauno to drive at any given speed takes exactly the same wheel power as it did before the remap. Now the engine is of course linked to the wheels via the gearbox, so Shauno can change the engine speed for any given road speed by changing gear, but power always equals speed x torque, so change up, the engine speed drops due to the higher gear, and the engine must make more torque to keep the same power. For example, say sitting in 3rd gear the engine is doing 4000 rpm, and making 100Nm, that's a power output of 41.9kW. Change up, and let engine speed drop to 2000rpm, and for the same 41.9kW, the engine must now output 200Nm
That is simply a result of the laws of physics and cannot be changed! What CAN be changed is the engines efficiency in turning fuel into useful work, either by increasing the thermal efficiency (capturing more heat from the burning fuel) or reducing frictional and parasitic losses (ie wasting less of the energy released from the fuel) Downspeeding (running the engine at the lowest possible rotational speed, ie the highest gear) does indeed save (a small amount) of fuel, because it minimised engine frictional losses, but, those losses are only really important at low loads (FMEP would typically be in the order of 5 to 10 kW), so the only fuel saving possible comes when the engine is already at maximum torque and therefore you cannot change up and maintain the same vehicle speed. But at maximum torque, you are miles away from "peak economy" so if you want to save fuel, just slow down (reduce your vehicle speed) a bit, and you'll get a massive fuel saving compared to the couple of percent that even aggressive diwnspeeding can deliver. Particularly as aero drag is proportional to the cube of speed, so small reductions in average speed bring large power requirement reductions, and hence large economy benefits. And if Shauno is accelerating harder, then hsi average speed will be higher, and hence the average drag is higher, and hence he'll be using more fuel to drive the same distance.
It's also worth noting that with modern engines, where the driver demand is scaled to a torque demand by the engine management, the position of the drivers foot is, broadly, irrelevant. Simply by remapping the pedal map, you can make a vehicle feel to the driver like they have to accelerate less to get the same speed, but the engine operation is actually unchanged.
As i mentoned before however, freed from the (oneous) requirements of certification and legislation, it IS possible to get a production enigne to make more power via a higher overall thermal efficiency leveraging a fixed fuel mass, using the measures i highlighted in my previous comment (EGR/Injection angle/Pmax) but those measures were not taken by the OE for good reason (like for example, passing emissons legislation, something your new remap would not do)
Max Torque what dribble are you talking. I myself have my vehicle tuned, it isn’t a 79 series but the point being made here is fuel economy. Now I don’t give a dam about all your facts and figures I myself can confidently say that when I drive my vehicle sensibly I get better economy. I drive the same way to work every day with the same weight give or take way + or - 50l of fuel so my figures are pretty dam accurate.
So for me and I recon a lot of other people would agree if driven sensibly you will be better economy, it’s simple. Even though you are making more power and more torque, you are using less power and less torque to get to speed and to maintain speed.
I will also add, if I drive like an idiot it will also chew through the fuel faster then the “so called brilliant” factory tune.
So I respect your comment but kindly I disagree. 👍🏻
Day to day driving for the majority of people would see an improvement.
@@bloodyterrific you say.
1) you "don’t give a dam all your facts and figures"
2) "you are making more power and more torque, you are using less power and less torque"
I for reference have 30 years of powertrain calibration experience with the major OEMs including toyota, ford, aston martin bentley, GM, BMW, and have been part of the team that has developed F1, LeMans, and WTC winning race engines. When i measure fuel economy i use a state-of-the-art facility, that cost £100M to precisely and repeatibly determine all the metrics for any given vehicle.
Now i get it, people who've spent money on a remap want to believe that somehow there new map can give both more power and ore econonmy at the same time, but i'm sorry, mostly it can't. I say mostly because as mentioned there are specific mapping points where the thermal efficiency of the engine can be improved beyond the OE settings due to a lack of constraints for aftermarket post registration remaps, but those points are no where near the loads sites at which you would drive if you actually had max economy in mind.
You say "my figures are pretty dam accurate" what are you using to measure those figures? To get an accurate figure you need an independantly (and traceable/calibrated) fuel flow measurement and vehicle distance measure. The gauges on your dash, or the read out on the garage fuel pump are no way near good enough.
BTW, i am in no way knocking UDT's work, i just think that it's good to have some realism in such complex subjects for the good of everyone
@Ultimate Diesel Tuning How does "soot" result in an engine that uses less fuel? (Hint, soot is actually an insulator, so a sooty engine will generally use less fuel because the overall thermal gradient is higher to ambient......)
BTW, i'm sure your customers do use less fuel after the remap, but only because they are subconciously driving slower /more carefully. It's call the placebo effect and it's very real, especially in cases where people have spent money to achieve something but they have no objective measure of the success of that measure.
What performance gains would I expect to see on my non turbo 105 series 1HZ 2002 land cruiser as i am not keen to install a turbo?
Wonder about businesses in USA, TX that can do something like this with a Duramax LML after deleting. Another great video.
have a friend of mine pushing 300whpx1000nm from his 79 series
How much did it cost?
please next episode show the camera crew that helps make all this happen and get to us.... behind the scenes
Why don’t they clean the intake manifold BEFORE doing the first baseline? Seems to me a big part of the gain may well in fact be coming from the clean and not just the tune?
Can't wait to see that thing do work offroad
Hey Shaun, The 79 sounds great. Are you still running the DPF?
His is a non DPF model DPF's came out late 2016 2017
@@pittyonu OK. Thanks for letting me know.
When we seeing the 79 on the trails!?! Would love to see you and Rocket smahing it in those rigs
Getting better fuel economy from your foot is great . But does it improve the overall economy of the engine.