Analyzing Kiara and Amelia's LEGENDARY chess game! It's very painful!

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  • Tommymator is back with another chess analysis! This time, we will be analyzing the chess game between Takanashi Kiara and Amelia Watson! With 20+ minutes of both beautiful moves and complete blunders, who will come out on top?
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  • @Tommylmao
    @Tommylmao  3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Hello everyone! I just uploaded a new video analyzing the newest Hololive chess game between GM Gawr Gura and GM Amelia Watson, be sure to check that one out! th-cam.com/video/8KONOhs4zRk/w-d-xo.html

  • @pdragon619
    @pdragon619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    "and it is just a very very nice move, which of course is not played"
    I mean that sums it all up in a nutshell.

  • @remnock
    @remnock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Kiara managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

    • @BlackKnightsCommander
      @BlackKnightsCommander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I don't think this was a win for either one of them lol

  • @Deimos4500
    @Deimos4500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    They discovers promotions.
    Kiara: "Is this a new rule for zoomers?"
    Me: WHAT?!!

    • @jamesmccomb9525
      @jamesmccomb9525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      People born after the year 1490 are officially Zoomers.

  • @snowykaze
    @snowykaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    Why torture yourself in such a manner?
    Edit: after finally seeing the chess match, I can only say that if Murphy’s Law was a chess match, it’d be this.

    • @guno2826
      @guno2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Big respect to tommy for enduring that. That dedication is inspiring

    • @KAPPACHIO
      @KAPPACHIO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If there was a visual representation of pain it would be this chess match

  • @comandantegorrion7271
    @comandantegorrion7271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    “There is a mate in 2 here… of course, that’s not what happens, the game goes on for nearly another 50 moves.”

  • @VVheeli
    @VVheeli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    This was less of a chess match and more of a random-number generator throwing darts at a chess board and only allowing legal moves.

  • @I-am-the-Magus
    @I-am-the-Magus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    That whole game gave everyone involved PTSD.

    • @KAPPACHIO
      @KAPPACHIO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      “Wanna get a chicken at Checkers?”
      **starts having violent convulsions and seizures**

    • @darkeye457
      @darkeye457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even Calli said she prefers to die before playing chess with that Chicken
      And she's the Grim Reaper aprentience

  • @Vgamer311
    @Vgamer311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    Less than three minutes in and I’m dying.
    “Now, you may be wondering what that move accomplishes... The next move is...”

  • @ghosthost2033
    @ghosthost2033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Me: not an expert in chess,so very flexible and forgiving about mistakes
    *Pawn don't kill the rook
    Inner pain and suffering

  • @basedtortellini
    @basedtortellini 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Hahaha i love the agadmator layout

  • @smoof5669
    @smoof5669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    this was truly a battle between 2 chess titans

  • @guno2826
    @guno2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I fell asleep while watching this stream ( about when they started the chess match).When I woke up they were still playing.
    Me: NANI?

    • @KAPPACHIO
      @KAPPACHIO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I fell unconscious after so much stress and pain

  • @jundachen9518
    @jundachen9518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    It actually makes sense to promote to rook in situations where queen promotion ends in draw by stalemate.

    • @sjasogun
      @sjasogun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yup. There are even rare situations where refusing a promotion (keeping your pawn as a pawn) can make an otherwise guaranteed loss into a draw, though those situations are extremely rare and pretty much don't happen in practice.

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sjasogun pretty sure you can’t refuse promotion anymore.

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheOneWhoHasABadName wdym, "anymore" was it some "chess update" or something?

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielyuan9862 kind of, yes. an update to the rules of chess is effectively an update to chess.
      in this case, someone found a “bug” in the rules and tried to exploit it, so the devs on the most official-looking “server” (i.e. FIDE) patched it out

  • @Dango428
    @Dango428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Next is a5. Now you may be wondering what that move accomplishes."
    "Next is f4"

  • @thechiporpoise545
    @thechiporpoise545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    1:34
    Tommy: "I'd ask that you'd please consider subscribing 4 more..."
    Me: "times? Aight, lemme get my backups out."
    Tommy: "content..."

    • @Tommylmao
      @Tommylmao  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I will take those extra subs to the bank thank youuu

  • @Bonnie-wk9ze
    @Bonnie-wk9ze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i was there when this was written. The chat suffered a lot

  • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
    @shytendeakatamanoir9740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Moving the rook too early is such a rookie mistake.

    • @tejaskapil6803
      @tejaskapil6803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ina...

    • @juncheok8579
      @juncheok8579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought I was one of the offenders of this mistake, and then I saw what they both did

    • @atree86
      @atree86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@juncheok8579 at least you didn't hang a queen in a king + queen vs king endgame

  • @ilonachan
    @ilonachan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I'm not an expert, but this looked like a bunch of blunders stitched together to resemble a chess game.

  • @casbyness
    @casbyness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I love about this game is how the probability meter indicating who has the advantage CONSTANTLY swings in the opposite direction from what should always happen. When Kiara moves, white's chance of victory is annihilated. When Amelia moves, black's chances are destroyed. It's basically like they are playing for each other's side, actively sabotaging the win chance percentage of the pieces they are moving. XD

  • @cicero8939
    @cicero8939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    looking forward to the analysis of Gura and amelia's game

    • @Tommylmao
      @Tommylmao  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Newest video my friend :)

    • @cicero8939
      @cicero8939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tommylmao they’re gone do chess again tomorrow. Kieara and Amelia. Can’t wait for the video!

  • @Hazardou5
    @Hazardou5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Excellent Analysis. Really pointing out all the genius nuances that a club level player would have missed

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Now, you may be wondering what the purpose of this move is. The next move-"
    I'm was afraid you were blowing your best material early.

  • @SaladinG14
    @SaladinG14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love the agadmator format, thanks for summarizing their game!

  • @Steel_
    @Steel_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I got an ad for a chess training program.
    That *can't* be a coincidence...

    • @noox13
      @noox13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not, you get ads depending on what you do online. If you search or watch something long enough you might start getting ads for that.

  • @mndy129
    @mndy129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    20:23 and Ame's BGM starts playing lmao

  • @knicklichtjedi
    @knicklichtjedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Kiara is 3 queens ahead."
    Hah, she possibly can't lose that, right? Oh, wait... What do you mean she doesn't know all the rules? Oh no no no!
    I've only played chess for a day in school in a special week, but I have to say this match was the most entertaining match of chess I've ever seen. Brilliance and Brutality combined into an one hour match!
    Looking back at the match through the eyes of someone who actually knows chess, reminded me of some moves I did as well and now I know why they were suboptimal. Thank you!

  • @genericsidecharacter8915
    @genericsidecharacter8915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can’t wait for another in-depth analysis video like this on the current chess stream

  • @luk7400
    @luk7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was here live the whole way through. Jumping off the roof felt like a great idea for once in life.

  • @beziik2357
    @beziik2357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    9:11 the magic number ... I think that was the move that made me suffer the most ...
    p.s. at 20:15 a simple queen to f1 would have ended our suffering instantly T^T

  • @argeelor3804
    @argeelor3804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    holy shit that agadmator layout damn u got that good

  • @Nerd_Detective
    @Nerd_Detective 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To be super fair on rook promotion, it's overstating things to say you should *never* do it. There are rare non-flex scenarios where a queen would result in an instant stalemate due to blocking the only valid king move. Unlikely a rookie player would even notice, but if a queen promotion would trigger an immediate stalemate, you might have no choice but to tactically under-promote a pawn. It's not just theoretical, since it has happened rarely in high-level play for just that reason.
    Honestly, I half-expected this game to end in an accidental stalemate from the haphazard chase all over the board. They did their best, though! I hope they enjoyed playing as much at least as much as we enjoyed shouting at our screens.

    • @noox13
      @noox13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not enjoy shouting at my screen at all, if that's what you mean. XD

  • @exudeku
    @exudeku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    my smooth asian brain suddenly have wrinkles

    • @KAPPACHIO
      @KAPPACHIO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My face suddenly has wrinkles now

  • @yoboihawj6976
    @yoboihawj6976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can't finish the video. I'm in too much pain I'm sorry Tommylmao. The moves hurt me too much. I was in chess too.

  • @matthewegan5281
    @matthewegan5281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is some of the most painful chess i have ever seen on Earth.

  • @TheZekriamLP
    @TheZekriamLP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I fell off of my chair laughing when he named 1. c3 h6 the detective's defence, that was a really good joke!

  • @randomclownguy6
    @randomclownguy6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 12:20, Rb2 is a blunder because of Kc3, trapping the rook. Of course I don't expect either of them to see it

  • @KAPPACHIO
    @KAPPACHIO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Funny how all beginners move the sides and rooks first, instead of the bishop and knight.

  • @Adyman182
    @Adyman182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We have the same exact board and pieces style, personally it's the only combination that completely soothes my eyes

    • @Tommylmao
      @Tommylmao  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That theme be SLAPPIN

  • @jackychen6261
    @jackychen6261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can still verbally hear Kiara yelling “I WILL PERSIST!” As she runs around with her King at the end

  • @MinerDude369
    @MinerDude369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m loving the Death Note music in the background
    Respect+

  • @Prinny_421
    @Prinny_421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All 20 initial opening moves have been named btw :)

  • @ReeSoo_
    @ReeSoo_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy, quick tip, promoting to a rook/bishop is useful to avoid draw in extremely niche situations, where you clearly have a material or control advantage, and need some more time to develop into a forced mate.

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis! thanks man!

  • @rinowo1179
    @rinowo1179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice agadmator layout you have there

  • @FreyteriusMori54
    @FreyteriusMori54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here I am waiting for the Ina-Haachama Chess Match Review. And analyzing the suffering that is this game xD

    • @Tommylmao
      @Tommylmao  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my thank you for letting me know I have my next video idea

    • @FreyteriusMori54
      @FreyteriusMori54 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tommylmao
      One is glad to be of service. ;)
      EDIT: Link to the Match Proper, just skip to 49:30 th-cam.com/video/AlKyymKUK-c/w-d-xo.html

  • @quitw4392
    @quitw4392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't even play chess but I'mma guess this is gonna be bad because my friend gained massive ptsd from talking about it.

  • @WallyBDO
    @WallyBDO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    me, who has never played chess: "ahh of course, simple really"

  • @2-onel468
    @2-onel468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is the only way i can watch this chess battle without dying

  • @genericsidecharacter8915
    @genericsidecharacter8915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m a chess casual and I was screaming at my screen. Kiara so could’ve taken that game

  • @DarkKnight6six6
    @DarkKnight6six6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had some drawn out back and forth games, as I'm by no means good at chess, but this is something else...

  • @SuperZez
    @SuperZez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:12 Mate in one actually. Queen goes straight down and the knight protects her and it's checkmate.

  • @juancano3793
    @juancano3793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:15 actually you could get mate in the next move by Qf1, directly checking King and being protected by the knight

  • @blasphemousperson2837
    @blasphemousperson2837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amelia and Kiara Chess gameplay like: Random
    BullShit go!

  • @ahrumest
    @ahrumest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truly a clash of the greatest minds of our generation

  • @kalsten2236
    @kalsten2236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn they're so good even Magnus Carlsen can't get to this level

  • @PhoenixClank
    @PhoenixClank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know next to nothing about chess, thank you for explaining why this match was so painful to watch!

  • @defectived_vn
    @defectived_vn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:03 's play was moment of kiara flying into frying oil

  • @pimiento3428
    @pimiento3428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the bottom left gambit

  • @lecorbak
    @lecorbak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:30
    Ah, I see, you're a Plok of culture as well.

  • @mina-kfpunemployedemployee6708
    @mina-kfpunemployedemployee6708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pain peko

  • @danielyuan9862
    @danielyuan9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:20 is no nasty threat there. Amelia blundered that move.

  • @alex985441
    @alex985441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love the girls but god damn I hope they never play chess again... the stream was so painful to watch

    • @Red5rainbow
      @Red5rainbow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hear you but also imagine them getting better

    • @StrategicGamesEtc
      @StrategicGamesEtc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Red5rainbow The good news is, they can hardly get worse. :D

    • @alifallen
      @alifallen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm pretty sure that they are scheduling a rematch.

  • @mangotango8115
    @mangotango8115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol pretty fitting to have Death Note music play over a chess game analysis

  • @elfireii328
    @elfireii328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As it turns out, ame and kiaras games got to you because 20:13 is mate in one, as the queen to f1 is protected by the knight... but ofcourse it isn't played.

  • @pillowpilloww
    @pillowpilloww 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love how this is parodying agadmator

  • @casbyness
    @casbyness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 20:13 you say there is a mate in two. I'm no expert, but isn't Queen to f1 an instant checkmate? The Knight has the Queen protected, it's game over if Amelia had dropped the Queen right next to the King, right?

    • @mrhades8860
      @mrhades8860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is. This guy miss the mate in 1

  • @s1nner_
    @s1nner_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The analysis bar be playing tennis

  • @geliscon
    @geliscon ปีที่แล้ว

    This game was such spaghetti. If it hasn’t already been baka mitai’d it should be

  • @rin_etoware_2989
    @rin_etoware_2989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the fucking Death Note soundtrack is just taking the piss lmao

  • @generalmckongo4946
    @generalmckongo4946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah seeing it again made me lose some of my brain cells again

  • @markeyonethousand
    @markeyonethousand 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only reason that I can think of for underpromoting to a rook is if blocking a diagonal would somehow force a stalemate. None of the hololive EN members seem to know how a knight moves lmao. Also the Ame Watson BGM is a nice touch!

    • @NomDatBass
      @NomDatBass ปีที่แล้ว

      That's exactly the case with rook and bishop promotions, and is likely why the engine thought the rook promotion was better in that specific circumstance. It almost certainly saw a potential stalemate that the rook could avoid but the queen couldn't.

  • @shawngao6687
    @shawngao6687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The detective defense lmao

  • @smartyuno
    @smartyuno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You missed mate in 1 because of the knight defending the mating square. Don’t worry, still not as bad as these vtubers.

  • @prohobbyist5872
    @prohobbyist5872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are plays I made when I first start blitz chess

  • @selectivepontification8766
    @selectivepontification8766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This must be a very interesting game to annotate. Thankfully, question marks are an unlimited resource.

  • @YourTypicalMental
    @YourTypicalMental 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I felt very smart watching that game.

  • @naee
    @naee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry about that

  • @martk647
    @martk647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amelia is playing the Rook's gambit very early in the game.

  • @DEFRaven
    @DEFRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    B O T T O M - L E F T

  • @gaygoddessnamedmadoka2252
    @gaygoddessnamedmadoka2252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great analysis of a painful chess glad your brain is not smoothened

  • @graysongdl
    @graysongdl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't played chess in forever, I'm not very good at it, but this whole video still hurt all the same. Rooks going uncaptured for several turns, not just backing the king into a wall when she had a rook and a queen against nothing... My god. Still entertaining as hell.

  • @f1r3hunt3rz5
    @f1r3hunt3rz5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boy, I never considered myself as a chess player, probably not even beginner -as I know how the pieces move and that's it- , but I physically winced at the sight of missed captures. Aaaaaaagh

  • @jamaluddinkhalifa8371
    @jamaluddinkhalifa8371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching the highlights of this game with my very rudimentary understanding of chess was painful enough, but now i have some understanding of how much more painful it was for actual chess players...
    p.s.: what's the outro music?

  • @FourthDerivative
    @FourthDerivative 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:39 Of all the terrible moves in this game, that Qd5 was just physically painful

  • @pidge3807
    @pidge3807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna cry

  • @josemaripadilla7442
    @josemaripadilla7442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone's brain melted while playing chess?
    ( I think I looked too hard at playing chess )

    • @josemaripadilla7442
      @josemaripadilla7442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personal Note: My brain melted when i'm trying read every moves within 2 - 3 turns of playing ( My mind will get foggy if i do it too frequently )

  • @randomperson5579
    @randomperson5579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:13, Qf1 is mate in 1

  • @teongreen5254
    @teongreen5254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:14
    Thats even a mate in one ^^

  • @Nico-fy5un
    @Nico-fy5un 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are you hikaru son?

  • @hoanghapotato71
    @hoanghapotato71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see his pain while analying this

  • @melonssecretary9320
    @melonssecretary9320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching this match live was torture

  • @markdenversorino4136
    @markdenversorino4136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agadmator parody!

  • @creepykoala7255
    @creepykoala7255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They didn't make any illegal moves this game, but some of them might as well be called that.

  • @aikolliech.2525
    @aikolliech.2525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:13 it is actually mate in 1

  • @B121AN1
    @B121AN1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your voice is amazing.

  • @Kastor774
    @Kastor774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Second part of the saga. The Pikamee video might have made you viral, but I came from the Code Geass video.

  • @Dango428
    @Dango428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I now know how Levy feels when he does guess the ELO

  • @saphironkindris
    @saphironkindris ปีที่แล้ว

    This game was like... They knew how the pieces moved, but that was the extent of their chess knowledge, They didn't think things past the end of their immediate turns, not even considering what the opponent might be able to do in response, or any actual plan to win the game. They were just kind of moving pieces around at random.
    If ever you think you're bad at chess, watch this match to feel better about yourself lol

  • @reverendmalice4664
    @reverendmalice4664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone probably already spotted this out, but at 20:10 with KG1, wasn't it actually a mate in 1 with Qf1#? Meaning Amelia prolonged the game even further with that wild goose (or chicken/phoenix in this case) chase.