Fibre (Fiber) vs Copper as Fast As Possible

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2014
  • Why is fibre better than copper in an all-out head-to-head showdown? If it's that much better, why don't we use it everywhere?
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  • @plumeater1
    @plumeater1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +565

    Mom said I need a lot of fiber to be healthy, so I ordered Google Fiber.

    • @saucypanda5368
      @saucypanda5368 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      XD omg

    • @its_elkku135
      @its_elkku135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It has Fiber in it's name, so it must be healthy

    • @mW-lx9qo
      @mW-lx9qo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its_Elkku logic

    • @supernova5434
      @supernova5434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOOOOOOOLLLL

    • @garrettk7166
      @garrettk7166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Relevant: Google Fiber th-cam.com/video/re0VRK6ouwI/w-d-xo.html

  • @aLtee
    @aLtee 9 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    Fiber = Happy life
    Copper = Wanting to burn isp´s offices in a daily basis

    • @zach.8438
      @zach.8438 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      aLte I have hughnet I get 10 down 1 up and 10 gig's of data after that I get 500 kps down 100 kps up even with I have data I can't play games online cause my ping can go from 600-1000 ping I always 1 bar I used shorty copper to its way better than sattelite I would be grateful for that because it's usable

    • @joneil-rayreotutar4563
      @joneil-rayreotutar4563 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      zach.843 I get 200 kilobytes down with my internet. I want to die

    • @TikTakGamingTr
      @TikTakGamingTr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get 35 mbps with vdsl

    • @maurice482390
      @maurice482390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      750mbps for me

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Copper is good it's just shit for any sort of distance

  • @Ciprian-Amarandei
    @Ciprian-Amarandei 8 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    2 years later...I already have fiber-link directly to my pc...and I'm a simple home user from Romania. Technology is getting cheaper by the second. 300Mbps (37MBs) at $9/month. I wonder WTF is going on in developed countries where same speed is costing $50-100 ???

    • @joemuis23
      @joemuis23 8 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      monopolies and knowing people have enough money that they can milk people to that extent

    • @minitos1
      @minitos1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      +Cip Ama that's because 20 years ago romania didnt even have phone lines, thing's have been recently installed. the copper cables in europe have been there since the 60s-70s and have gotten old and broken, and replacing them with fiber takes alot of money.

    • @Ciprian-Amarandei
      @Ciprian-Amarandei 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      minitos1 I don't think that't the case. First telephone line was installed in Romania in 1881. I think is more about true capitalism , which in my opinion in most countries "capitalism" is just a pure theoretical concept, and reality is that big corporation own the market, since there is no competition they can increase prices as much as they want. I remember my first phone internet modem back in 1995 was kind of expensive.

    • @minitos1
      @minitos1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cip Ama Ah okay, I've heard about this happening to alot of countries around europe though.. thats why I'm saying it.

    • @buizelproductions-movedtob7799
      @buizelproductions-movedtob7799 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Cip Ama Nah where I live in Canada theres tons of people and its $569/month

  • @XtremeConditions
    @XtremeConditions 8 ปีที่แล้ว +514

    "No room for SLI they said." XD

    • @arhmlmao
      @arhmlmao 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmao 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @MaxCE
      @MaxCE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We need two people to unlike this comment.

    • @XtremeConditions
      @XtremeConditions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MaxCE I literally tried to unlike my own comment just to get it there but it didn't let me. :(

    • @aditya7311
      @aditya7311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi how are u

    • @295g295
      @295g295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SLI ?

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 9 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    Linus: copper telecommunications lines have been around since the 1830s with telegraphs and since the 1870s with telephones, not "the beginning of the 20th century".

    • @techquickie
      @techquickie  9 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      vwestlife Yeah I found a timeline for that stuff, but we're not really using the stuff that was deployed so early and it wasn't as widespread.

    • @seirv0621
      @seirv0621 9 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Techquickie he is still correct. They deployed the copper for a reason

    • @_waymin
      @_waymin 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +vwestlife Ayyy!!

    • @WOSArchives
      @WOSArchives 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Techquickie Somebody need to learn their Bell System history. :-D

    • @0xEmmy
      @0xEmmy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Relax, the point is, we've had copper infrastructure for a while now, and we still don't have fiber.

  • @papayeezus
    @papayeezus 9 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    fucking shitty australian internet system.

    • @karimrahaman1
      @karimrahaman1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I know eh I DEMAND NBN

    • @Draconorst
      @Draconorst 9 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      The whole of New Zealand is getting fitted out with fibre. In fact most cities and towns are already on ADSL2 at 50MPS. Just a dig at our Aussie friends ;) (it's for all the sheep shagger jokes).

    • @karimrahaman1
      @karimrahaman1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hahaha well I get around 500-700 KBps (500 average) and a friend of mine has NBN which is 1MBps and the time difference to download e.g. 6gb is massive

    • @ashleyjlive
      @ashleyjlive 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SS_ TropicThunder www.speedtest.net/result/4007966416.png

    • @karimrahaman1
      @karimrahaman1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ashley Bengtson what about it

  • @marijnrombouts2938
    @marijnrombouts2938 9 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Here in the Netherlands, in most cities and villages, fibre is being rolled out to the doors, not only as a backbone. In my case, the fibre is coming inside, and we have a special modem designed for fibre-signals. The speeds are amazing :)

    • @swdis00
      @swdis00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep i got fibre straight into my house. But i'm also living in the Netherlands. :D Cheap and high speed :D

    • @RK-tx5lb
      @RK-tx5lb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct. The whole country is being connected to fiber now. I have it too now and it's 10 x faster and costs only half of my previous provider.

    • @Snowy-Owl
      @Snowy-Owl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ja leuk snelle internet van KPN he. Ziggo is wel slecht met coax

  • @CaptainBill22
    @CaptainBill22 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've visited the Corning Museum of Glass a couple times and they have a display of a copper cable cross section of about 6 feet in diameter vs the few strands of fiber optics. It's really amazing to see how far we've come in communications technology in the span of 100 years.

  • @OverlordActual
    @OverlordActual 9 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    I wish Linus would have explained in harsher details that ISPs are probably the biggest reason why fiber isn't being rolled out quickly (at least in the United States). I've muted this post for myself so I no longer receive notification but continue the discussion below if need be.

    • @Markgb3
      @Markgb3 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      If you wanted that, then you should have went over to TekSyndicate.

    • @OverlordActual
      @OverlordActual 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Teslamonger I was unaware they did tekquickie. Its not like linus hasn't talked about it before. He has bashed them plenty on the WAN show but not everyone watches the WAN show.

    • @zdrux
      @zdrux 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If you go out, start an ISP, and make enough money; then you can roll them out as quickly as you wish. Let us know how that goes.

    • @DoubleNN
      @DoubleNN 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not living the US, I'm wandering what this ISP you speak of is?

    • @zdrux
      @zdrux 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Double - N Internet Service Provider

  • @nicksmit2909
    @nicksmit2909 9 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Australian: *Cries, the moisture from my tears further reducing copper's effectiveness*

    • @xeniq2214
      @xeniq2214 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure Australian internet is so slow it's going back in time 😂 -3mbps

    • @Jarcob32
      @Jarcob32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tasmania: (that small island near Australia that somehow is part of Australia) FTTP is still slow!

    • @mycro2767
      @mycro2767 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We voted LNP, we get what we voted for

  • @as7river
    @as7river 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These sponsor ads are getting more amazing each video. Seriously, that glitter is the only reason I need to visit FD's website.

  • @ahh497
    @ahh497 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love watching your video man! So informative while keeping it simple for most to understand! :)

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 9 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Next: "American spelling vs. Canadian/British spelling as fast as possible"

    • @alpha_th0t
      @alpha_th0t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      AKA Commonwealth

    • @alpha_th0t
      @alpha_th0t 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Crawshaw French Canadians* -- Of course we should.

    • @the_harvster1862
      @the_harvster1862 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this from misused tech terms when the top comment was a spelling debate?

    • @masdoe6384
      @masdoe6384 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Crawshaw no its a small part no one speaks french in canada

    • @tipsy2865
      @tipsy2865 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye big fan here

  • @emilehoffmann
    @emilehoffmann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I just got a 1Gbps fibre connection to my home!! It's awesome

  • @ActuallyVen
    @ActuallyVen 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are getting better and better!
    Keep them coming!

  • @kjakobsen
    @kjakobsen 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Our electrical companies, was planing to move, high current cables underground. And since they needed the earthmovers anyway. They threw a bundle optical cables down, while they where at it.
    Fiber to the home is actually quite AWESOME. :)

  • @rufioh
    @rufioh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I miss Linus doing stupid stuff like shoving glitter on his face for sponsors

    • @kruzell
      @kruzell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      rufioh trust me he still does a lot of stupid stuff

  • @ethaneousmaxamus4722
    @ethaneousmaxamus4722 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel lucky, my city just got fiber over the entire city!

  • @melodyofloveinblood
    @melodyofloveinblood 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude hats off to your confidence! I like you on this channel the most!

  • @rambunctious39
    @rambunctious39 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for explaining and sharing these insights on the various topics :)

  • @MrPaksh
    @MrPaksh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I got my Fibre now for one week. I never wanna use the internet without it anymore!

  • @philippebelanger9512
    @philippebelanger9512 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Here in Canada we have different options. The most common is an HFC (Hybrid Fiber Coax) architecture just like Linus explained. The telco I work for can deliver up to 200Mb/s down - 30Mb/s up for residential customers on this kind of network. It works really well and it is reliable. FTTH is slowly taking place but it'll take a couple of years before going mainstream because of cost.

  • @jsdart5989
    @jsdart5989 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized how great the FD ads are- normally, I close the tab during the sponsor spots but I actually stick around to watch the FD ones. More people should do ad integrations like this :)

  • @LockieNZ
    @LockieNZ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We've been getting fibre to the door rolling out in New Zealand over a year before this video was put up.
    However, we haven't really been getting the capacity that fibre is capable of. Test areas in (circa 2009) were limited to 30/10, and when it started deploying 'Premium' connections were 100/50 and were on plans that had data caps.
    In the past couple of years, the max was increased to 200/200, with most ISP's offering those speeds with no datacaps, with one of our smaller cities (Dunedin) being the test area for 1000/500.
    As of the 1st of October, the provider and support of the physical connections, Chorus, are increasing all fibre speeds around the rest of the country to also have 1000/500, with most ISP's providing users on their 200/200 plans an upgrade to 1000/500 at no additional cost.
    These residential fibre connections are deployed over Passive Optical Network, using a single fibre rather than a pair for TX and RX, making deployment more financially economic. This also pleases ISP's, as they no longer have people calling up and complain about not having advertised speeds due to not suffering signal degradation over distance. Not having degradation from EMI or wet weather impacting poorly insulated lines also appeases the ISP overlords.

  • @kaitlynxy3358
    @kaitlynxy3358 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The individual fibre cables are cheaper than copper as they're just glass, what makes it so expensive is what goes into protects it

    • @tylerdoop
      @tylerdoop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well making the tiny glass tubes is actually relatively expensive I would guess since they have to be the same thickness all the way through

    • @kaitlynxy3358
      @kaitlynxy3358 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the glass tubes are just glass, they're less expensive than copper, as copper is a rarer material than glass. I know this because I've worked with Network Installation specialists, who specifically manage copper and fibre connections.

    • @tylerdoop
      @tylerdoop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      General Echo Ah, ok. I don't have that kind of experience. But that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

    • @kaitlynxy3358
      @kaitlynxy3358 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tyler Eberhardt No problem

    • @soundracoon2458
      @soundracoon2458 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      General Echo thats not how it works the procesing of such a flexible glass fiber is what ups the cost

  • @isopropylyummy
    @isopropylyummy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It rubs the glitter glue on its skin or else it gets the pie in the face again.

  • @dcphillips1991
    @dcphillips1991 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a rather simplistic description of the layers in the fibre optic cable, also the outer layer isn't just for protection of the inner cable, it is also necessary for the cables to work at all. As you require a difference in the refractive index's for the light to stay within the cable and not just pass through it. Maybe you could do a Techquikie just for fibre optic cables to describe them in more detail.

  • @andrejkrebs
    @andrejkrebs 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    A large part of Ljubljana has fiber optic to the home. I positively love it!!

  • @lapx2230
    @lapx2230 9 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Isn't the speed of light approximately 300 000 Km/s ? Does the glass slow the light ?

    • @tmlhalo6100
      @tmlhalo6100 9 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Yes. 300,000 KM/s is only in a complete vacuum.

    • @lapx2230
      @lapx2230 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Timothy Lastovica Oh, I remember now :P Thanks.

    • @SpurnOfHumanity
      @SpurnOfHumanity 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's exactly 186,000 m/s

    • @ChrisD4335
      @ChrisD4335 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John DeBrino umm youtube comments is not the real world.... good answer thought

    • @ANeMzero
      @ANeMzero 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LapX You also have to take into consideration that the path light travels in a fiber optic cable is never going to be straight. Rather the light is constantly bouncing off the sides of the fiber which in turn adds distance to the path it is taking. So while a length of cable might be 2m, the total distance the light travelled through the cable would be closer to 3m

  • @DavidBakhash
    @DavidBakhash 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    2:35 I swear to god that's Keith from buzzfeed

  • @potatocomputertips8955
    @potatocomputertips8955 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    im gonna get fibre cables in the January middle-ish so happy and excited

  • @vermanshane
    @vermanshane 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got fibre installed when this came out yesterday. :)

  • @SalgatAustin
    @SalgatAustin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish you did more stuff with fiber optics. It's becoming cheaper to setup a home fiber network than with CAT 6, and with the latest MMF standard supports up to 400gbps (so you can upgrade from 10gbps to higher by simply updating your switch and transceivers in the future).

  • @mathqesystem
    @mathqesystem 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi,
    Thanks for the video!
    May you give an example how exactly is the conncetion made between fiber and copper? Are the modems used? Modems which converts the light to an EM signals or vice-versa?
    Thanks!

  • @NebulaMirage
    @NebulaMirage 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Ireland and the UK, we are lucky to have fibre cables almost everywhere and although we are small countries, our combined economies were more than enough to afford fibre cables.

  • @creamcheese7845
    @creamcheese7845 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally getting mine next week, hopefully it does what they say it does

  • @thegreenbean5891
    @thegreenbean5891 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We've had fibre here in Ireland for years now and its pretty amazing but as Linus said, it's still a copper wire from the main road. I rang my isp one time to see how much full fibre to my door would be and promptly had heart failure lol. It is possible though.

    • @enthusiastisch1922
      @enthusiastisch1922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have VDSL in Ireland which is better than Copper, which it can reach 100mpbs, Ireland is a prime example of an internet connected country compared to the Uk which is lacking behind, luckily BRSK FTTP is coming soon in my area instead of rip-off Virgin

  • @TRexAteMyGirlfriend
    @TRexAteMyGirlfriend 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the main things that sucks about fiber line is when it gets damaged and you have to splice it

  • @emilehoffmann
    @emilehoffmann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I now have a 1gbps fibre line in my home
    And it's amazing

  • @broinsonjeyarajah2448
    @broinsonjeyarajah2448 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to do a science project on this. Thank you for this video

  • @Hadermite
    @Hadermite 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    3:37 Lol I live in Sweden and we have direct fibre connection to our houses... I think we are in the front line of Internet connection...

    • @memmoman
      @memmoman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sant

    • @EddiePassions
      @EddiePassions 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      america NOW does too lol

    • @tgm9991
      @tgm9991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EddiePassions Not in many places.

    • @EddiePassions
      @EddiePassions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tgm9991 here in atlanta yes. but i'm getting 500-700 sometimes 900 and i'm paying 1000mpbs $70

    • @gabrielmaria2762
      @gabrielmaria2762 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EddiePassions 900-1000Mbps here, paying $12.

  • @oscarchivas3123
    @oscarchivas3123 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Linus, How about a "RFID as Fast as Possible"?

  • @michaelwitt7443
    @michaelwitt7443 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sparkles at the end was worth the wait

  • @Mattiasbaldi123
    @Mattiasbaldi123 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. You're so fucking good at explaining, and you do it in a very detailed way in a very short amount of time. Judging from other videos and tutorials I've seen of you, you must be one of the most intelligent people I've ever seen.
    +1 from here.

  • @valuebender5613
    @valuebender5613 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so if dsl in consent it.. how come when i just load up a webpage on dsl it goes from 70 ping to 6337 ping

    • @danman9847
      @danman9847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone else must we using it or something.

  • @bikutoso
    @bikutoso 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm living in the southern part of Norway, and i feel the ISP focuses on the wrong parts.
    I'm living in the center of a municipality, and only have access to copper that are a few km away from the nearest Repeater. But my grandpartents that are living in the middle of the forrest are getting Fiber.
    No wonder the ISP Fiber project failed.

    • @Nighthunter006
      @Nighthunter006 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One big problem is that in city centres it is very hard/expensive to lay all the fibre in the ground in the first place, not to mention if you need a kind of "substation" to distribute the signal. Where I live (northwest Norway) almost everyone except the people in the city centres have fibre due to this. In general, Norway has a really high rollout of fibre, even FTTH, which is almost unheard of in America. It's just too expensive in the city centres.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Elderly people need more fiber in their diet.

    • @42matty
      @42matty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Australia spent $50billion and its shit

  • @ManDrake22100
    @ManDrake22100 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merry christmas linus!! :)

  • @nbn292
    @nbn292 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks this really helped with my networking assignment!

  • @peter-mk4ig
    @peter-mk4ig 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    it would have been better if you have the glue on throughout the video and not explained it at all.

  • @Schmidteren
    @Schmidteren 9 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    LinusSkinHealthCare

  • @rattacko123
    @rattacko123 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    gotta love my 1Mb/s upload and not being able to watch more than 480p :D
    Thanks Tony Abbot...
    I need NBN. Satellite TV is so expensive.

    • @mycro2767
      @mycro2767 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      repeat after me:
      FUCK THE LNP

  • @flyingfajitas
    @flyingfajitas 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot about Fractal making Linus do crazy stuff. The helium still cracks me up.

  • @carlunaden
    @carlunaden 9 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Too bad the US ISP industry is too greedy to actually innovate...

    • @RandomTheories
      @RandomTheories 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know its over 6years since your comment, but..
      "Starlink says HELLO WORLD to your local ISP"

    • @belland_dog8235
      @belland_dog8235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RandomTheories I can't wait until Starlibk fucks over these ISP providers and they have to start seriously upgrading their lines with Fiber optic. And cheaper prices as well, but that's more wishful thinking.

  • @details2378
    @details2378 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The telephone in the beginning is a russian one.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Strange. Only one Cyrillic letter per number.

  • @ZaKillAlpha
    @ZaKillAlpha 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    My ISP rolled out fibre to house connections to every house in the COUNTRYSIDE (while its still hybrid in towns) across their entire service area. Which is the southeast part of the state.

  • @PassionTheMusicGuy
    @PassionTheMusicGuy 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the Netherlands we have already fibre cable to every house separately.

  • @bogdan9939
    @bogdan9939 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    In Romania we got fiber for free and we have the fastest internet in Europe.....atleast there is something we are good at

    • @cristiannicolae6309
      @cristiannicolae6309 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but you still don't have freeways or decent long distance transportation.

    • @bogdan9939
      @bogdan9939 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Cristian Nicolae Yep :) that's why ive said "atleast we are good at 1 thing" cuz we suck at the others :)

    • @vessk000
      @vessk000 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost the same situation here in Bulgaria, but worse! :D

    • @akamehi
      @akamehi 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cristian Nicolae Says a Romanian. :c

    • @cristiannicolae6309
      @cristiannicolae6309 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mihai ▲ ẞlvck Natives know this better thn anyone :P.
      PS: never go to the toilet in a Romanian train.

  • @yqisq6966
    @yqisq6966 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    wtf that darth vader scared shit out of me

  • @lapis7971
    @lapis7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video!

  • @jsmit21
    @jsmit21 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In our country we have Fiber to house lines. We have a line in our home

  • @pewpewnim
    @pewpewnim 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Internet in Singapore is now basically fibre everything. Its getting cheaper by the year and copper seems like it was from the middle ages now. I was pretty shocked to hear some youtubers say they dont have internet that can stream 4K... I can stream atleast 3 4K videos, have torrents and a game running, and surf the internet without any bottlenecks at all..

    • @RahilWazirAli
      @RahilWazirAli 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good for you :(

    • @hosseinsalamat1138
      @hosseinsalamat1138 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and here I am with a shitty 1mb connection that can barely handle one 360p video. I should have been born in Singapore :(

    • @ilidenstrmrege987
      @ilidenstrmrege987 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      we'll have this in Germany too... in 1 billion years.

    • @thepicard83
      @thepicard83 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same thing here in Sweden. Fibre is so spread throughout the country that the cable tv channels now are transitioning over to broadcasting with IPTV services and cable is slowingly being shut down. Fibre is even being built out to the country outsid towns so even small towns now are being covered by fibre. Entire sweden will be covered by fibre soon and the speed are amazing. I hope you guys in the US gets fibre widespread soon cause its totally unbeatable hen it comes to stability and performance.

    • @saucypanda5368
      @saucypanda5368 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +krister olofsson i doubt the US will get ANYTHING like that anytime soon :( atleast affordable... The internet provides here are greedy as fuck and the best my family can afford is 1mb... i cant download a game without my parents netflix stuttering. its such bullshit :(

  • @sebastianlilja998
    @sebastianlilja998 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just got my fiber installed and im in love with it already. There i live, everyone have accsess to fiber and the goverment is paying the fiber groups for deploying it. About 120 dollars. / Gotland, Sweden
    btw i got 100/10 and i get 125/15 probably going to upgrade it to 100/100

  • @AceCmbatguy25
    @AceCmbatguy25 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just had fibre optic installed at my house on sunday with the fibre optic cable straight to the router ! The speeds are insane :D Fragile cable though but still great installation work is the usual around the Paris area.

  • @pinohunt
    @pinohunt 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also is the HFC Hybrid Fiber Coaxial, that is a combination of the two types of wires. :D

  • @jackedrussell
    @jackedrussell 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My whole neighbourhood has direct fibre to their houses. They recently upgraded the fibre backbone to 1 Tbps and everyone is getting 10 Gbps fibre cables directly to their homes to prepare for the future.

    • @Onhil
      @Onhil 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats some download speed right there

    • @FoodOnCrack
      @FoodOnCrack 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      10 gigabit? So everyone has VERY expensive switches with a 10 gbit NIC instead of a normal router with a 1 gbit nic?

    • @uhSTZY
      @uhSTZY 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1tb download speed? Are you that old lady that lives in the Netherlands with the son that owns an internet company?

    • @jackedrussell
      @jackedrussell 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      FoodOnCrack I don't know. I'm just saying what the letter I got from my ISP said they were going to do (and have done now) and that we should expect internet outages for a few hours.
      STZY Bruh 1Tbps for a neighbourhood with 600 houses (theoretical max download speed of 1.7 Gbps per house, but each house has a cable capable of 10 Gbps, or so they say).It's unlikely that my neighbourhood would get 1 Gbps download per house for a few years.

    • @akiraic
      @akiraic 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      STZY Bruh Their BACKBONE was upgraded to 1 Tbps.

  • @Bassistent97
    @Bassistent97 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the Netherlands fiber is already rolled out everywere I believe (just 2 years ago), it's really nice but it can be pretty expensive though. Prices are ranging from 40 up to a 100 euro's a month.

  • @RighteousPWN
    @RighteousPWN 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love your stuff linus... this was a great watch I actually work for an ISP in Northwest Indiana, small company but we have actually started deploying fiber to the home in some areas and had only a small take mainly due to the fact that our ISP cannot offer TV over fiber yet ( due to a FCC mishap that took place long before i was employed here. but more on your comments about fiber costing more.. that isnt exaclty true. Fiber vs copper in length fiber is actually cheaper due to high rare metal costs. the other cost problem is like you said having a outside plant already made up of copper vs redoing that entire plant in fiber is a huge cost in time, labor and materials. the other major cost is upgrading the equipment that said copper and fiber are ran off of. We are currently using upgradeing all of our (repeater boxs) Litespan equipment to ADTRAN equipment that allows us to increase our output potential. Litespan equipment only allows us to have about a 1Gbs to split between 1-50 people but ADTRAN is allowing us to have 10Gbs to split amongst the same, ADTRAN is still dated but alot better than dial up lol, I do believe that once TV goes to 60% or 70% streamable we will start seeing a more demand for fiber.

  • @TesserLink
    @TesserLink 9 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    i wonder if sata cables will be replaced with fiber cables.

    • @SynthieFlowers
      @SynthieFlowers 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That would be great.

    • @Saloron2
      @Saloron2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I wonder what a fiber motherboard would be able to do, instead of copper traces.

    • @ChrisD4335
      @ChrisD4335 9 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      The Gentleman Sandwich not a dammed thing

    • @MeakisTV
      @MeakisTV 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not sure about salta cables but they are trying to make circuit boards light based.

    • @ZardozSpeaksToYou.
      @ZardozSpeaksToYou. 9 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The Gentleman Sandwich ...Fiber isn't conductive. Please take a 101 on electrical engineering. That's just a silly comment.

  • @AmazingPunch
    @AmazingPunch 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:13 Nice meme Linus.

  • @MomSpaghetti012
    @MomSpaghetti012 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the Netherlands we allmost have Fibre everywhere. Exept for the far away little villages maybe.

  • @Buizie
    @Buizie 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That end tho... Flawluzz

  • @zman7117
    @zman7117 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm not sure why everyone is bashing ISPs. Yes of course, like all businesses, they're trying to make money. But like he stated in the video... copper has been around since the beginning of the 20th century. That's over 100 years of developing a copper grid. Now fiber comes along and everyone expects it to be instantly installed?
    Take the highway system for example. What if tomorrow a study proves that metal streets are better than asphalt/cement and cost pretty much the same. Would you expect every street in the world to be made out of metal in 5, 10, 15 years?
    ISPs could increase their workforce 10x to speed up the process, but that is where the business side comes in. They need to make money in order to pay their employees.

    • @Racerin4783332
      @Racerin4783332 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True true. Next thing is that a new technology may come around. But also, ISPs better upgrade to fibre when maintainance is being done.

    • @MinecraftEpicPlayer
      @MinecraftEpicPlayer 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack Carlos ISPs make a 97% profit margin. It's been mentioned before on one of Linus's livestreams

    • @zman7117
      @zman7117 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      MinecraftEpicPlayer Are you dumb? You just hear a number and blurt it out? That number might be what your first Google search gets you, but that doesn't include any of the costs to build a network and maintain it. Since 1996, Time Warner has spent $200 billion dollars building their network. Most people think you can just "turn on" the internet, but there's a lot of labor and money needed to do so.

    • @MinecraftEpicPlayer
      @MinecraftEpicPlayer 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack Carlos
      then how come Google Fiber is able to do so well?

    • @zman7117
      @zman7117 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      MinecraftEpicPlayer Google Fiber is brand new and is starting in small areas with dense populations. They don't need to "replace" anything like copper. Everything they put in the ground is profit. Just think if Comcast only focused on 20 major cities across the US - those 20 cities would have amazing speeds.

  • @s28400
    @s28400 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fast As Possible as fast as possible

  • @ChaoticRenny
    @ChaoticRenny 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The things you do for Fractal Design xD
    I wish fiber was everywhere it's so much more manageable than copper and the internet speeds are insane.

  • @JoshLathamTutorials
    @JoshLathamTutorials 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the end there i was like "WUT!? YOU LOOK GREAT"

  • @gameboytj
    @gameboytj 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I hope google fibre becomes worldwide (and cheaper) so i can use it for my games.

    • @wtblack5
      @wtblack5 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will, this kind of stuff has been in Europe for years, it's just a matter of when people will decide to dig up the current network, and put in the new one, probably around 5-7 years in the future, but typically everyone over estimates Google...

    • @danman9847
      @danman9847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +wtblack5 longer than that do you how many rural areas there are.

    • @wtblack5
      @wtblack5 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Danny Billy yes, what's your point? Fiber wires can be connected via power lines, like phone lines...

    • @danman9847
      @danman9847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      wtblack5 Stfu if you don't get it.

    • @wtblack5
      @wtblack5 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Danny Billy umm... apparently you don't get it either...

  • @fencingmadman3098
    @fencingmadman3098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Please dont say "simple Scandinavian design" IKEA furniture is still traumatizing to me

  • @nicolaibratsberg9967
    @nicolaibratsberg9967 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We've had fiber lines to every house for like more than 5 years in Norway now, and now nearly all houses have a direct fiber line.

  • @Domo-lq8lg
    @Domo-lq8lg 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here on puerto rico after the hurricane you could see the fiber optic lines on the floor.

  • @vffa
    @vffa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    in Germany i have Copper with 250 Mbits Down an 150Mbits Up... and yes, it is Copper!

    • @Sentinel_Daniel
      @Sentinel_Daniel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but it has vectoring.

    • @vffa
      @vffa 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fr0zzen it still is 250Mbit... Technology doesn't matter for most people...

    • @danman9847
      @danman9847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +vf fa i have copper and only get 1.5mbs

    • @vffa
      @vffa 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danny Billy lel... Where do u live?

    • @danman9847
      @danman9847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      vf fa 1.5 MB or 12 mbps and a small as town.

  • @Jjuancc
    @Jjuancc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Gotta love fibre when you download Mortal Kombat in 45 minutes!

    • @artlivermore9400
      @artlivermore9400 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Gotta love it when it takes a week

    • @DragonProtector
      @DragonProtector 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got to love it when it on copper and fast lol

    • @sushiboy679
      @sushiboy679 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta love replying with the phrase "gotta love"

  • @creamcheese7845
    @creamcheese7845 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My town is finally installing fibre right now. One year wait for me

  • @DanielBatistaDJTech
    @DanielBatistaDJTech 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Portugal MEO company put the fiber in each home with an ONT, and that ONT delivers the internet and analog TV to the copper coaxial cable in home

  • @Mazaroth
    @Mazaroth 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Just waiting for my "Quantum entanglement particles" for those FTL communications.
    MAKE IT HAPPEN, I DO NOT WANT TO WAIT FOR THE YEAR 2180 TO GET THAT!

    • @0xEmmy
      @0xEmmy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's not how quantum entanglement works.

    • @Mazaroth
      @Mazaroth 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      octet33 In mass effect it does :D

    • @legionfighter6789
      @legionfighter6789 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Mazaroth Sorry to burst your bubble but...
      The world isn't a video game.

  • @betobadran2
    @betobadran2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in brazil many ISPs are instaling fiber optic directly to consumers house

  • @vivael18
    @vivael18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Sweden, houses are being connected with fiber. It cost like 2.5k USD to have it build a fiber connection at your door step, but people here do it. Buildings also run on fiber, they have conversion station in the basement so every apartment can have standard copper connection. We are stuck with one ISP though per area though, not enough to choose. 100 Mbit/sec cost like 20-25 usd a month.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which company? Telia?

    • @matthewtremain683
      @matthewtremain683 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicolás Espinoza R. In Australia it cost about $100/month for 100Mb/s download, 40Mb/s upload.

  • @andrew221100
    @andrew221100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Australia is actually transferring all of our cables to fibre optic cables. It's called the NBN (National broadband network)

  • @anurgaprasad123
    @anurgaprasad123 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    since sony and microsoft are getting so many DDOS attacks
    can your next video be about how DDOS attacks work?
    I m curious why DDOS are not called 'hack'

    • @PaulTheFox1988
      @PaulTheFox1988 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A DDOS is not a hack because all it takes is a group of computers being remotely controlled from a different location sending massive amounts of information/requests to another computer until it can no longer accept and process any of the information.
      Anyone who has access to a botnet (a bunch of computers that are remotely controlled that you can actually rent) and a script that are easily available on the web can do this. (Hence the term script-kiddies)
      Hacking on the other hand means using software or hardware exploits to change aspects of how that computer works, and means actually looking at or changing actual computer code in order to access those exploits.
      TekSyndicate have a bit of information about what a DDOS and why it isn't actual hacking is on their latest The Tek video.

    • @quentinlefevre8612
      @quentinlefevre8612 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cause DDOS is a attack not an hack.

    • @GFORSE
      @GFORSE 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A DDOS attack is a bunch of 12 year olds getting together and thinking that it's "fun" and "productive" to send millions of HTTP/FTP/SSH/etc requests to servers. No, it's not a hack.

    • @napillnik
      @napillnik 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is DoS and DDoS. DoS means Denial of Service, which is a state of a server when it ceases to respond to client requests in a regular fashion. DoS attacks can be sent from a computer, or a small group of computers, with a fast internet connection. You basically launch as many threads as you can, and tell each one to request something from a server (like a web page or a large image). With certain exploits you can send specific requests that will take longer than usual to process, so you won't need a lot of resources for such an attack. An example is a PHP vulnerability a while back, that resulted in a lot of memory being consumed when you post a certain set of keys to the server.
      Anyway, DoS attacks are easily killed by just banning the IP of the attacker. Automatic bans can be easily made, if the server makes a visit statistic to determine if an IP hogs a lot of the server resources (then it's probably trying to DoS).
      Now, DDoS are a whole different story. It is distributed, which means that IPs from all over the world will perform this attack. Usually these are hijacked computers (using trojans), that make only a few requests, so the owner wouldn't suspect anything, or wouldn't care. But their number is so high, that the flow of requests is too much for a server to cope with.
      How do computers get infected? Well, it's a biosphere. People want software, that costs money, but they want it free. Some people reverse engineer, or get leaked info from the software manufacturers, that allows them to make cracks, keygens and stuff like that. They don't do it for free of course. They include some scrip there that would take simple remote commands. Now they have a botnet, that they could rent to people for money. Who rents them - script kiddies or people with a grudge that want to do industrial sabotage. Sometimes by hackers that use this as one of the steps in their attacks. And cracks/keygens are not the only source of these trojans. Free programs all over the internet, that are useful, often have sponsors that get to include their shit into the installer, and sometimes that shit is some real shit if you know what I mean. I got my share of shit from programs like Orbit Downloader, Freemake , you get the idea. Just be careful what you're installing, what they're trying to push with that, and verify after the install that there is no new shit on your computer that shouldn't be there.
      That's why you shouldn't do crack. I mean you shouldn't use cracks and keygens for software you use. Find a free alternative, pay for it, or don't use it. But if you really must and there is no other way, try to sandbox that shit. Have a virtual machine to run the keygens in (use VirtualBox - it's free, and you can install trial versions of Windows on it), copy the generated key and use it in your main computer. Cracks are not possible to isolate however. If it's a program you rarely use - put in in a virtual machine as well, and start that machine when you need this program. Keep your computer clean, don't be a part of a botnet.

    • @CraigLabute
      @CraigLabute 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A DDoS attack should not be considered a 'hack' - because there is generally no compromise or exploit of a system. It's just a bunch of systems ganging up and making as many requests as possible to a system. There is nothing wrong with your web browser requesting www.youtube.com. It is a problem if a billion computers all try to request www.youtube.com as rapidly as possible, repeatedly. This is a DDoS.
      DDoS is often executed with a 'botnet' of compromised systems - that were indeed affected by some kind of 'hack'. Illicit individuals or organizations will rent out these botnets for fees, or use them for their own whims. Sometimes, (like with DNS/NTP amplification attacks) just one or a relatively small number of systems can exploit the legitimate purpose of a protocol for unintended purposes - here there is potentially no botnet, and the attacker leverages a collection of otherwise secure servers owned by private companies and governments. In these cases places like universities and government research centres with 10Gbps+ internet connections were tricked into sending gigabits of traffic at victims.

  • @andrewhumphreys9020
    @andrewhumphreys9020 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly im still on DSL.. which is copper but.. still horrific.

  • @RizztrainingOrder
    @RizztrainingOrder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You go girl!

  • @FBHSswimmer2006
    @FBHSswimmer2006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My ISP has been working on their fiber-backed network for the last year. When I bought my house, I was on a purely bonded DSL line with max speed of 15 Mbps down, and 1.5 Mbps. When my ISP added the nodes, repeaters, and fiber to the end of my road they were able to swap my house over to the fiber-backed hybrid I can now get either 25, 100, or 200 Mbps. I have their 100 Mbps and usually get about 80 Mbps down and 26 Mbps up. I still wish that I had FTTP (Fiber to the Premises) but the current configuration works so I am not going to ask them to fix something that isn't broken.

  • @Luka_3D
    @Luka_3D 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How can copper still be around? Slovenia already has fiber everywhere.

    • @ProfGop
      @ProfGop 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in Latvia and I know that copper is more common here, but we have way faster internet than you guys.

    • @Luka_3D
      @Luka_3D 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Professional Medic Well copper is not slow.

    • @NickFje
      @NickFje 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in Norway and it is very varying speeds here. A half hour away from where I live the top speed is 5 mbps on copper. Where I live they are currently building fiber networks supporting up to 1gbps and the absolute fastest connection can reach 10 gbps but none have ordered it anyways and it is only available to very special customers.

    • @MuzgontarAco
      @MuzgontarAco 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it doesn't.. I'll still have to wait a few months to get my fibre connection..

    • @LachiBoii
      @LachiBoii 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can still have copper if you have Malcolm Turdbull, and his cronies as your government, who say that "New copper technologies" are better.

  • @JoshuaPack
    @JoshuaPack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2019 i get 1Gbps up and down available through fiber straight to my house... ow how has technology changed

    • @awoo1622
      @awoo1622 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😫 i'm still struggling with 512kbps. 1Gbps sounds like what a whole city is using

    • @JoshuaPack
      @JoshuaPack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awoo1622 oh wow, where do you live?

    • @Kiporino
      @Kiporino 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have 12 mb/s down, 1 mb/s up

    • @sphrcl.
      @sphrcl. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use copper and I get 80 down, 20 up

  • @vulcan7859
    @vulcan7859 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    in sweden many people got fiber including me. but the instalation costs like 2000$ but you can get a speed of 250/250 mbit/s for 40$ wich is great.

  • @thomassmith1456
    @thomassmith1456 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome vid.

  • @danman9847
    @danman9847 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im here paying 45 dollars a month for 1.5 dl and .1mbs up.

    • @epicgamingwmiguel7597
      @epicgamingwmiguel7597 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      att right?

    • @danman9847
      @danman9847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Epic Gaming W/Miguel No

    • @ninja.saywhat
      @ninja.saywhat 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah 47 dollars a month for 3mbps fuck att im switching to comcast next month. actually fuck all these monopolizing greedy companies they always do overcharge because there isn't much competition since they pretty much guarantees smaller competitor's non existence by buying them and also lobbying the congress and shit. comcast's offer is still way better though. for about the same price i get more than 3 times my current speed. 3mbps to 10mbps. maybe even further upgrade to 25mbps next year.

    • @gabemiller9817
      @gabemiller9817 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      90$ monthly for 5dl and 1 up.. -_-

    • @epicgamingwmiguel7597
      @epicgamingwmiguel7597 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gabe Miller new cable company has 100mbps for $34

  • @ray73864
    @ray73864 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Any chance you could inform our stupid government over here in Australia, Linus??? :) God i can't believe we aussies are going to be stuck on copper for the next 20yrs or so.

    • @CKSGames
      @CKSGames 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I KNOW!

    • @NMC77777777777777777
      @NMC77777777777777777 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      20 years? HAHAHAHAHA if Abbott can help it, it will be 50+ years. So short sighted.

    • @CKSGames
      @CKSGames 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      So True

    • @IbanBoi99
      @IbanBoi99 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude...I feel your pain and I'm from Malaysia

    • @CKSGames
      @CKSGames 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the Internet suck there too???

  • @Allen75000
    @Allen75000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the best video i've seen.

  • @jckf
    @jckf 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Power to your house is actually only partially delivered by copper. The high voltage lines that go to your local transformer are likely aluminium with an iron core. Although alu has a higher resistance, it is much cheaper, and the resistance doesn't matter as much when dealing with high voltage, as the same amount of power can be delivered with a smaller current. The iron core is there to carry weight.

  • @yasirsaheed
    @yasirsaheed 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My ISP offered a Fibre Optic Broadband connection for US $48.26, Is it cheap or expensive?

    • @gabemiller9817
      @gabemiller9817 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very cheap

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it's Sonic in California, get it. I'm on it and it's mind-blowing fast because it's fiber-to-the-home. Mine is $40 plus taxes and equipment rental.

    • @pyromaniachimbo
      @pyromaniachimbo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could get 50Mb/s for $43.14 and 100Mb/s for $49.67 (200 is 56.21) Yes, this is all fibre.