@@anrods good to hear but the problem never was the engine, rather the looks and design which has not been changed centuries! Everybody love the 650 v2 engine.
@@cybilisation Absolutely. That little V-twin is one gem of an engine. Quite literally bulletproof. Just that the looks and that big bulky design is getting a little too long in the tooth.
Beautiful bike , the bike that never get old because its already look classic retro. Unlike other new designer on other brands they are trying to make a bike that look advance future but after 5 years old when you look to your bike it seems out dated.
Somehow yes, ... agree ... ... the 650 should get better front brakes first of all, as they are really far out of standard already ... ... but they should keep the V2 for the more touring oriented version ... ... and ... ... for a more offroad oriented version a parallel twin
Big ADV bikes are used on pavement first of all. It is just a modern marketing to make long suspension travel but not useful as on pavement it is just a disadvantage.
@@wernerhaiden622 What I really appreciate about the VStroms (both 650 & 1050) is that they are honest motorcycles. They don't promise a lot and they don't leave the rider high and dry with expectations. Very few manufacturers market their products honestly these days.
@@FTRClub I agree 100%. Most manufacturers use a lot of money for marketing, which need to be paid. They just tell you about the blue sky and often promise more than what it is. The conclusion is that you spend more money to be betrayed. I have a 650 (Yom 2015), I always test the new ADV bikes, but so far, I saw no reason to change. I was always happy to drive home with my honest Suzuki. Only the front brakes on the 650 are really out of date and should get an update but anything else is just any good and even better than others.
Suzuki quitted MotoGP saying that they will spend that budget into r&d seriously? These bikes still looks the same change the design philosophy mate. I am a Suzuki fan through and through. The top management doesn't knows how to run this brand.
@@BlazinBlades IMO. Suzuki is rational as always We all know that it is better to run low pressure tube tires offroad .The front is hit harder ,has lower chance to get leaked and even so taking it off is not a big deal. The rear ,have no choice to keep it tubeless for convenience We end up carry only 1 21" spare tube that can solve all tires problem.
@@pakkaponnattharangsee8395 I agree Most of my flats over the last 30 years were in the rear. If that was the rational behind their decision and not just cost cutting I applaud them 👍👍 It is the first time any manufacturer is going with this hybrid solution on rims…
As it looks to me the display hosts a 12h clock. Will the EU version be able to make use of a 24h clock? Anything else would be ridiculous and a huge step back.
Suzuki you guys should have done this since 2020, it was what made me pick Africa Twin 1100 over the 2020 1050xt, the coloured tft and much higher ground clearance and 21 inch front wheel.
This seems like a better alternative to the Africa Twin. But, spoked tubeless at the rear and spoked tube in the front, really?? Also, wish they had Android Auto support on that screen.
It still looks boring. The design sucks more and more. It has been constantly degrading since those great examples of engineering and design of v-stroms from 2004- 2011. Guy's from Suzuki when you wake up? Or at least bring those great 2004-2011 models back! I would like to buy a V-Strom again, but not these ugly ones even though they might perform perfectly with all their amazing specs. I would rather buy some slightly used 2007 dl 650, for the price of a new 1050 one , but these new - no, thanks. You simply have killed a great masterpiece and keep pushing these ugly forms on the market. Make a research and ask independent riders or even owners of your new Stroms, If even one person likes these shapes and lines. I think you will be surprised. Or maybe you have known already and just keep insisting no matter what. You'd better hire new designers until it's too late. Even Chinese manufacturers create much more interesting bikes. Sorry, but I am a true fan and really love a 2007 Strom 650. Can't watch how you kill the beauty. Sorry.
with the 700 parallel replacing the 650, I believe that within a year or two we will be talking about a 1xxx parallel with more hp, this is a very short term evolution
Some suggestions to Suzuki please make some visible changes in design. A well designed bike is easy on eyes and desirable. Gone are days of Value for money. People have become aspirational.
NICE. Just bought the 2022 1050XT Suzuki you are ironing out the kinks. P.S Can I get the TFT so I can turn off my ABS offroad. Love my VStrom but seeing the new updates would pay to upgrade my Vstrom during next service ;-)
I love that they did all this stuff to add off-road capability but this video makes it clear that the bike is only intended to get on "gravel and flat dirt"
They need to update gsx r1000 asap, the competition is far updated in terms of features..... personally i think they need to update it with a tft dash and redesign their stock exhaust end can(i'm not a electronics fan boy)
It is stated in the video that it is made for gravel and flat dirt. I think this is rational and clever as only a few percentage of riders do more than this with big ADVs and longer suspension travel is just a disadvantage on pavement where such big bikes are usually used.
@@wernerhaiden622 Nah, this bike is just a half-assed effort by the dumpiest manufacturer: they put a regular-spoke tube wheel up front, while the rear wheel is the old cross-spoked tubeless. I’m sure this philosophy extends to the entire vehicle. Like can you imagine BMW or Honda doing something like this? 😂
@@wernerhaiden622 the manufacturer’s website. Furthermore, why would they have different spoke patterns on each wheel? It’s like wearing a boot on one foot and a sandal on the other 😂 Best guess is that those are all the leftover wheels from the discontinued dr650 😂
@@khakimzhanmiras if it's really a tube spoked wheel, I agree, this is not good at ALL. Nearly nobody is using the big ADV bikes offroad. 21" front wheel and long suspension travel are therefore anyway useless for the majority and a disadvantage driving on pavement on all big ADV's. Spoked reems are in add. much heavier and if a tube is added than even more. Again a disadvantage which nearly all big ADV bike riders have to suffer. Spoked big wheels make sense for the smaller categories but not for the big one's. It is just made modern by stupid marketing.
One thing bothers me with V-stroms. Why on earth Suzuki keeps making this stupid handguards for v-stroms (for decades) that don't protect anything, look ugly and can be easily pulled out with two fingers? Isn't it hard for such a big manufacturer to figure out that even on a standing bike these handguards are just spring out off bearings right after they touch the ground or a thick branch. And you stay not only with a damaged handlebar end but with a broken lever. I might understand that this is a kind of a business model to make money constantly selling new bar ends and useless guards. But people can be stocked somewhere high in mountains under the rain at night with broken clutch lever just because someone in Suzuki think that exposed bar end, instead of covered and protected, and crappy guards is a good thing for their business. I personally faced such problems myself in Caucasus in 2013 with a 1000 v- strom. The very same problem I saw after my friend dropped his dl650 bike. I also have dropped my 1200 gs many times on sharp rocks and stock BMW plastic guards have never failed. Never! I can always trust them. Why you just not make protective handguards like all other manufacturers do but these trash instead? Why? You don't even sell aftermarket decent guards. Why you do this to riders who trust the brand?
All I hear is "flat dirt...flat dirt. And gravel.." Are you telling us that this bike can't handle off road ? If it's only flat dirt then any bike can do that.
Do this to the 650 please. Longer suspension, 21" and ore ground clerance and you have a winner
I will buy, trade in my 2017 1000xt for smaller more capable off road vstrom
@@GregOz i saw some videos of a potential vstrom pararell twin with 21" wheel. One of those "spy shots". I won't get my hopes up until it is official
I think there is a new v strom 650 or 700 and the engine is parallel twin....
@@anrods good to hear but the problem never was the engine, rather the looks and design which has not been changed centuries! Everybody love the 650 v2 engine.
@@cybilisation Absolutely. That little V-twin is one gem of an engine. Quite literally bulletproof. Just that the looks and that big bulky design is getting a little too long in the tooth.
suzuki the best,, 😀😀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Please chuck alllll this tech and engineering at the new WeeStröm too! And re-release the DRZ400 or similar in the UK ffs 🙄 😁
Thank you X
Beautiful bike , the bike that never get old because its already look classic retro. Unlike other new designer on other brands they are trying to make a bike that look advance future but after 5 years old when you look to your bike it seems out dated.
Now do the same for the SV650 🤛🤛🤛🙌🙏 we need a new Freewind !!
Please Suzuki, do some development in the 650 segment, for example the same! It is time ☝🏻
Somehow yes, ... agree ...
... the 650 should get better front brakes first of all, as they are really far out of standard already ...
... but they should keep the V2 for the more touring oriented version ...
... and ...
... for a more offroad oriented version a parallel twin
Suzuki guys quite literally used the words "FLAT DIRT" half a million times, to make it clear this isn't made to go over tougher terrain.
Big ADV bikes are used on pavement first of all.
It is just a modern marketing to make long suspension travel but not useful as on pavement it is just a disadvantage.
@@wernerhaiden622 What I really appreciate about the VStroms (both 650 & 1050) is that they are honest motorcycles. They don't promise a lot and they don't leave the rider high and dry with expectations. Very few manufacturers market their products honestly these days.
@@FTRClub
I agree 100%.
Most manufacturers use a lot of money for marketing, which need to be paid. They just tell you about the blue sky and often promise more than what it is. The conclusion is that you spend more money to be betrayed.
I have a 650 (Yom 2015), I always test the new ADV bikes, but so far, I saw no reason to change. I was always happy to drive home with my honest Suzuki.
Only the front brakes on the 650 are really out of date and should get an update but anything else is just any good and even better than others.
Suzuki quitted MotoGP saying that they will spend that budget into r&d seriously? These bikes still looks the same change the design philosophy mate. I am a Suzuki fan through and through. The top management doesn't knows how to run this brand.
1050XT買って1年だけど乗り換えます💢💢💢
愛してるスズキ💋
Very good, rational, useful, clever update. 👍👍👍👍👍
Will the quick shifter become an optional extra on the 2021 1050xt?
Front tube tire and rear tubeless , they know how hard to remove rear tube tire when it got leaked GOOD JOB SUZUKI !!!!
Yes I noticed that too
Why not go all tubeless?
Strange choice…
Great updates all around!
@@BlazinBlades
IMO. Suzuki is rational as always
We all know that it is better to run low pressure tube tires offroad .The front is hit harder ,has lower chance to get leaked and even so taking it off is not a big deal.
The rear ,have no choice to keep it tubeless for convenience
We end up carry only 1 21" spare tube that can solve all tires problem.
@@pakkaponnattharangsee8395 I agree
Most of my flats over the last 30 years were in the rear.
If that was the rational behind their decision and not just cost cutting I applaud them 👍👍
It is the first time any manufacturer is going with this hybrid solution on rims…
Who says that the front wheel has a tube?
I trust they use same tubeless reem system like KTM does, isn't it?
According to global specs:
V-STROM 1050
110/80R19M/C 59V tubeless
150/70R17M/C 69V tubeless
V-STROM 1050DE
90/90-21M/C 54H tube type
150/70R17M/C 69H tubeless
Interesting approach.
Not interested 1050DE
Honda africa twin 🔥
As it looks to me the display hosts a 12h clock. Will the EU version be able to make use of a 24h clock? Anything else would be ridiculous and a huge step back.
Suzuki you guys should have done this since 2020, it was what made me pick Africa Twin 1100 over the 2020 1050xt, the coloured tft and much higher ground clearance and 21 inch front wheel.
This seems like a better alternative to the Africa Twin. But, spoked tubeless at the rear and spoked tube in the front, really?? Also, wish they had Android Auto support on that screen.
It still looks boring.
The design sucks more and more. It has been constantly degrading since those great examples of engineering and design of v-stroms from 2004- 2011.
Guy's from Suzuki when you wake up? Or at least bring those great 2004-2011 models back! I would like to buy a V-Strom again, but not these ugly ones even though they might perform perfectly with all their amazing specs. I would rather buy some slightly used 2007 dl 650, for the price of a new 1050 one , but these new - no, thanks.
You simply have killed a great masterpiece and keep pushing these ugly forms on the market. Make a research and ask independent riders or even owners of your new Stroms, If even one person likes these shapes and lines. I think you will be surprised. Or maybe you have known already and just keep insisting no matter what. You'd better hire new designers until it's too late. Even Chinese manufacturers create much more interesting bikes.
Sorry, but I am a true fan and really love a 2007 Strom 650. Can't watch how you kill the beauty. Sorry.
with the 700 parallel replacing the 650, I believe that within a year or two we will be talking about a 1xxx parallel with more hp, this is a very short term evolution
When will you introduce this trim in India
Some suggestions to Suzuki please make some visible changes in design. A well designed bike is easy on eyes and desirable. Gone are days of Value for money. People have become aspirational.
harusnya ini yang masuk Indonesia, jangan avenis 125 apalagi burgman 125 kedua motor ini bukan selera Indonesia
i hope the 650 DE comes with longer supension and less weight.....i had great hopes for the 1050 DE :(
thats nothing for the sahara
Does the non DE bike have cruise control? I won't buy the rusty spoked wheels.
Ya le pondría un deposito de gasolina más grande,solo 20l es poco
Now please suzuki update the gxsr
Sorry, love my 650 too much!
return Manufacture of the first generation DL650/1000 with current technology.
NICE. Just bought the 2022 1050XT Suzuki you are ironing out the kinks. P.S Can I get the TFT so I can turn off my ABS offroad. Love my VStrom but seeing the new updates would pay to upgrade my Vstrom during next service ;-)
A two weeks back i bought the new 1050XT. Why are you doing this to me suzuki?
Indian marketing is not good otherwise suzuki can compete anyone
Nice. Beautiful.
Keren nie motor vstorm
I love that they did all this stuff to add off-road capability but this video makes it clear that the bike is only intended to get on "gravel and flat dirt"
❤I Love V-STROM 🤙🏻
Now launch a new gsx r1000r with great power nd achieve 350 top speed
They need to update gsx r1000 asap, the competition is far updated in terms of features..... personally i think they need to update it with a tft dash and redesign their stock exhaust end can(i'm not a electronics fan boy)
For all the reasons... thats why I'll stick to my DR.
Did he say well-bounced 🤔
170mm suspension travel, 43mm forks? That suspension is going to be absolute Golgotha as soon as the terrain gets tough.
It is stated in the video that it is made for gravel and flat dirt.
I think this is rational and clever as only a few percentage of riders do more than this with big ADVs and longer suspension travel is just a disadvantage on pavement where such big bikes are usually used.
@@wernerhaiden622 Nah, this bike is just a half-assed effort by the dumpiest manufacturer: they put a regular-spoke tube wheel up front, while the rear wheel is the old cross-spoked tubeless. I’m sure this philosophy extends to the entire vehicle.
Like can you imagine BMW or Honda doing something like this? 😂
@@khakimzhanmiras
Who says that front wheel has a tube? ...
Rear is tubeless BMW reem system.
Front I guess is tubeless KTM reem system.
Isn't it?
@@wernerhaiden622 the manufacturer’s website. Furthermore, why would they have different spoke patterns on each wheel? It’s like wearing a boot on one foot and a sandal on the other 😂
Best guess is that those are all the leftover wheels from the discontinued dr650 😂
@@khakimzhanmiras
if it's really a tube spoked wheel, I agree, this is not good at ALL.
Nearly nobody is using the big ADV bikes offroad.
21" front wheel and long suspension travel are therefore anyway useless for the majority and a disadvantage driving on pavement on all big ADV's.
Spoked reems are in add. much heavier and if a tube is added than even more.
Again a disadvantage which nearly all big ADV bike riders have to suffer.
Spoked big wheels make sense for the smaller categories but not for the big one's. It is just made modern by stupid marketing.
My next bike ❤suzuki
Guy get this to india....the only option we have is africa twin
How do I order one?
Not the parallel 700 that everyone knows about eh?
Yeah mate, i am afraid for the parallel, they have a highly reliable V, i doubt they would change it
The parallel will be for the little VStrom, not for the big one.
@@etdbsub0 yes..for the 650 V include SV650 too..
Suzuki motorcycles are badly designed, causing users to buy all Honda and yamaha motorcyles.
..."flat dirt and gravel...."....lol
Big ADV-bike's average use:
~96% paved road
~3% gravel
~1% dirt
Long suspension travel is a disadvantage on paved roads ... lol
The bike is ugly. Can you please do something about this Suzuki?
Helemaal mooi 🤩
One thing bothers me with V-stroms. Why on earth Suzuki keeps making this stupid handguards for v-stroms (for decades) that don't protect anything, look ugly and can be easily pulled out with two fingers? Isn't it hard for such a big manufacturer to figure out that even on a standing bike these handguards are just spring out off bearings right after they touch the ground or a thick branch. And you stay not only with a damaged handlebar end but with a broken lever. I might understand that this is a kind of a business model to make money constantly selling new bar ends and useless guards.
But people can be stocked somewhere high in mountains under the rain at night with broken clutch lever just because someone in Suzuki think that exposed bar end, instead of covered and protected, and crappy guards is a good thing for their business. I personally faced such problems myself in Caucasus in 2013 with a 1000 v- strom. The very same problem I saw after my friend dropped his dl650 bike. I also have dropped my 1200 gs many times on sharp rocks and stock BMW plastic guards have never failed. Never! I can always trust them.
Why you just not make protective handguards like all other manufacturers do but these trash instead? Why? You don't even sell aftermarket decent guards. Why you do this to riders who trust the brand?
What a bad design decision. Rear wheel tubeless and front wheel tube type. Come-on Suzuki try better!
All I hear is "flat dirt...flat dirt. And gravel.."
Are you telling us that this bike can't handle off road ? If it's only flat dirt then any bike can do that.
You guys must be hard up for cash considering you put ads in your fucking ad