They both performed amazingly well! The amount of energy it takes to break the board and the table is nuts. I’d take whichever one was available to me without a second thought or doubt
That was cool and very interesting. The traditional Core-Lokt .308 is my chosen deer hunting round out of that single shot NEF Handi Rifle. I would not spend any extra for the tipped given what was shown here. I was not prepared for the violence of the impact with that Gel. Holy Smokes! That was impressive. Darn good shooting Tools and a great video.
If your shooting inside 300 yards it really doesn't matter which one you use... If your shooting beyond that with handloads your a fool to not use the tipped (presuming your find a good load) because of retained performance
@@aaronunterseher1627 naw screw that!!! if you're reloading for 308, you load 155gr bergers cause they have a bc of .517 which is freaking awesome for 308!!!
Yep. At a certain point, "improvements" to ammo just makes it fancy, but not significantly more effective. IMHO, the companies shouldn't waste time on R&D for this kind of thing. "Hey, that wasn't an expensive, fancy-tipped bullet, so I'm not gonna die for you," said no deer ever.
But deer fall over faster if the bullet is more expensive and newer! And when the new stuff comes out, the older bullets just stop working as well. Maybe deer are adapting and become old school core-lokt proof? :)
Been shooting the original core lokt .308 for years and they have never given me a reason to change. Great video very interesting. As always great job tools keep it up.
Yeah bro, my dad and I have used cor lok’s for 40 years on Antelope, Mule Deer, Elk, Big Horn Sheep and Mt Goat.. in 7mm And 270, 150 gr.. In Sako rifles and that ammunition has never not preformed!! And ruined a lot of big game’s day.. And our Sako’s like Remington cor lok ammunition!!
I have a difficult time trusting Remington ammo, in 2018, the Core Lokt that I bought in 30:06 shot scattered groups, could not get them to hit where I aimed. Found a box about ten years older, shot like it should have, driving tacks. I figured that the multiple bankruptcies resulted in some sort of changes in quality control, or powder formula.
A while back I took a shot at an 8pt white tail ( 190-200 lbs ) was using Federal Core Lock. $18.99 a box of 20 pre shortage prices. 150 grain. Shot was only 60yds. Probably a clone of the Remington. I looked immediately to see which direction he was headed after shooting but he was gone. It was my son’s rifle and I was in disbelief that I could’ve missed from that range. Especially aiming just below the shoulder. I waited 10-15 min and walked over where he was when I fired and found him laying within inches of where he was standing, the shot evidently knocked him off his feet and he was probably dead when he hit the ground (when we processed him it was a clean heart shot). This year I shot another large 8 point at a 150 yds with the same cartridge, same shot placement but this guy ran around 70 yds. Point being that the hydrostatic shock of a 308 inside 80-100 yds is massive, so for short range hunting as demonstrated by Mr. Tools the energy dump is incredible.
Another great test Tools. You just keep upping your game on the testing, very informative and fun to watch. Picked me up a 22LR Wildcat yesterday too add to my collection based on your review of it. Hoping to get the Heritage Rancher this week too add to my Heritage collection as well. Keep the videos coming, love watching them and what you do for the 2A community.
Need to see the ballistic tables to check how they both are at 200 and 300 yards. Do they reduce drop or drift? As for the tip helping consistency in expansion? Said nobody ever: I wish these Core-Lokts would open up better. Great video BTW - love the down-range chrono and jelly.
Thank you sir. That would for sure add some value if they have some greatly increased performance once you get pretty far out. for most people's hunting ranges, I'd say they are nothing special.
I would think the tipped version might make a difference out at longer distances, but for hunting... and I don't hunt myself, but from what I hear, around here at least (NC), most deer are taken at 100 yards or less.
Very cool! I searched for a video on that Core Lokt 150gr. .308 boolit because that's the same one that my Remmy R-15 uses in its .30 Remington AR chambering. I get about 2650 fps. or so from the 22" barrel on the R-15. It is quite accurate out of my rig also. More interesting to me was the gel test. Very nice.
Thank you so much for this video. It was very informative! You do such an excellent job at this. I have been hunting for years and have always used the core locked .308 caliber in my Mauser 660 with a 24-inch Krupp steel barrel. It has never failed me. I can't see the extra $10 for the ballistic tip. But I would not have known that without your experiment. Once again, thank you so much for your expertise in this subject.
Thanks tools. I just said I wasn’t spending any more money this month and after watching this I just ordered a AR10 from PSA and 200 rounds of core lok lol
Awesome video, really appreciate you putting that much effort into test these rounds. I think you just started a new trend, lol. Now we are going to wanna see .223, .300 blk and all the other popular rifle rounds. Keep up the good work
Thanks for the video. Very informative. I’ve been using Core-Loks since 1967. Great performers. I have a collection of mushrooms recovered from game. They do the job. You don’t need an over engineered fancy high tech projectile. Thanks for your efforts.
Excellent comparison. I wish they could make a smoother soft point.. but I guess that's beyond the material. The Federals I got were all mashed up from when they seated the bullet. I suspect that's got more to do with the plastic tips than just ballistics.
It's great your doing rifle tests i love the trusty psp and would be fine out to 150 to 200yds if you noticed in the chrono tipped point of impact was inches higher at distance would carry more energy the farther you go and if you zero the rifle with tipped you can do it all😊 in Oregon the average shot is 40yds for white tail psp work just fine
I took my first buck with a 225 gr. PSP 338 Win Mag at about 35 yards. No need to track because it dropped in it's tracks. I found out later that the all the bullet tips were flattened a bit in the magazine. I think the tipped bullets might not deform as much. However, I never had a long range opportunity so spending the extra money for the tipped bullets wouldn't make a difference to me.
Great video! Would definitely like to see more if these hi power rifle caliber videos. Very happy to see Remington plant cranking out ammo again. More ammo supply is better than less ammo supply!
To see if there's a 10 dollar difference probably should check group sizes at 200 yards or 275 yards. I think about 275 yards is maximum point blank range. Meaning that if you zero at 275 yards it should hit inside a 6 inch target being 3 inches high closer and no more than 3 inches low out to about 350 yards. I didn't explain it exactly right but that's the general idea depending on ballistics and bullet drop.
I think I would go with the reg. core lokt non tipped vs the tipped as they are $10 a box cheaper and virtually no difference in performance. Very interesting test for sure. Have a good one brother and I will see you on the next one.
I like the soft point, it’s put a lot of groceries in the freezer. The penetration is not much better than the punch but a heck of a lot more ka-Boom from the 308 . Enjoyed the video man. That was some good shooting into the gel. U sure do a good job on keeping your gel clean and clear.
The tipped wound channel to me appears to have tumbled. The separation to me is also a concern for hunting applications. I had always used CoreLock in 30-06, but did more hunting for deer that were smaller, ( Florida.) When I went to the .270, I had issues on larger bodied deer in Alabama with jacket separation from the lead core. I thing that would go to higher velocities. I changed to Nosler Partitioned bullets in Fed. Premium and problem solved. I was interested in seeing the difference in the new Remington bullet design. Interesting, there was a 100 fps variance in the 5 shot group in the tipped. That surprised me. Halfmile likely could offer more relevant substance than I if I heard the numbers correctly. I don't know what didn't like that test more, the Jelly, or the table. Great video Tools. Hunters were tuned into this one. Yea, I was 3 hours late.
Better late than never! I wondered about all that lead and jacket separating into the meat myself. Maybe I'm overthinking it but if I hunted, I think I would prefer a really nice expanding solid copper round. But what do I know, I just hunt steel.🤷♂️
Yeah, I liked the way ya did this video. But I like all ya videos so for me to say I like this one better than any of your other ones you know I am a big hunter and I definitely like the educational part of it. But I like them all man....you do a great job! Keep up the great work brother and be safe. ✌
Both worked great, will probably stick with the non tipped due to price and the fact that I shoot 3/4 moa with the non tipped out of my browning x bolt hunter in 308. I also shoot less than 1 moa out of my ruger m77 mk2 in 30 06. Really appreciate this video.👍👍
The tipped version caused more pronounced ignition burns in the gel which implies a more explosive energy dump. Besides that they both produced equivalent PWC's. The soft tips are fool proof performance.
Another great video. I have Always liked the core lokt and had good luck with it. Hope Rem. don't try to phase out the old PSP for the new tipped version just so they can get more money. They have been super hard for me to find. We know how most of Rem. price has been of late. Really liked that accuracy test also. I think that is a great addition to the jelly test. Keep em coming brother!
I just bought 3 boxes of remington 308 corelokt, at Walmart and I have 7 boxes of federal powershok 308 all 150gr. I have found for standard calibers like 308, and 30-30, and 30-06 that the federal blue box and the old school corelokt ammo is loaded to the exact same specs, and In my rifles works about the same for accuracy, and performance on game.
CoreLokts have been my go-to for deer hunting & haven't failed me yet. Used 6mm bolt gun, .270 Rem semi-auto, & Browning .30-06 semi auto. Funny that posters on other channels have been bad mouthing them, saying they don't shoot groups less than 6-8" @ 100 yds. Yet you just shot groups in the 1"-2" range with an AR. I call 💩 on them! Great video, & agree with the majority that the standard load is the way to go.
Yeah if they're shooting 6 -8 inch groups at 100, They might wanna stick to basket weaving. There's no doubt I could have gotten it even tighter with a truly solid shooting table and rest. These things did great from what I saw.👍
For the hell of it, I had to come back to watch this video again. I'm thinking I need to find some of these Remingtons for my new .308 rifle. Looks like both will work well, thanks for sharing.
@@ToolsandTargets this was my favorite test you have done please do more hunting rounds one I would really like to see is something with 270 if you have that and love your content brother thank you
Remington Core Lokt has been performing just like that for many years. There are more expensive bullets out there, but are they really better? You can likely get a little more accuracy, a little more range, and a little more terminal performance, but the Core Lokt still works very well on big game, and does it at a better price. And hell, ammunition is high enough without paying for Noslers and Sierras.
I have an old 30-06 which shot the Core-lokt just fine in the deer woods in Maine out to 200 yards. Now I'm out in CO and would love to take an elk. I'm considering using the 165 gr. tipped Core-lokt extending my range a bit out to 300-350 yards. This rifle had always seemed to shoot 165 gr a little better than any other grain. $10 more for a little higher BC w/ a little flatter trajectory may mean something. My hunt w/this rifle will be next year, but Remington certainly gave me something to think about.
When these hit that Jelly I actually said "Holy S&%*" Even the wife came over to see this! I knew the 308 was a beast but dad-gum! Very Nice video and excellent shooting! Definitely would not pay $10 more tho!
Tools, Somehow you have almost all my same wireless hole punchers. So I loved this vid. Also I really appreciate you hitting the gel at some distance. I saw another but they shot at 10 yards. Yours is more indicative of reality. They were doing same close distance on 223. Do you have a video on 223/556 at this same or similar 56 yard distance?
That was a fun video to watch. I liked everything about the format. The Rem Core lokt is legendary in WI. It's killed enormous bucks from its introduction to present day. Sure, there are more advanced designs today that do offer advantages over it. That being said, a Rem Core Lokt out of a 308 or 30-06 with a 150 or 165 gr bullet has been standard here for the average deer hunter for decades. I like to site in at 50 yards because my average shot is 20-60 yards. When I get a shot at 100-150 yards the 50 yard zero with a 308 or my 7mm mag is still well within the vitals.
Thank you sir. That's why I didn't take this test out to 100 yards. Some people like to think they're gonna snipe a deer at 500 yards but in reality, I suspect most kills are well under 100 yards.👍
If the tipped version had more wound Chanel then I would say as to its purpose in hunting the regular core lokt bullet would be an advantage as would damage less meat not even mentioning the difference in cost, when I hunted regularly I used the old core lokt and it has taken many deer for my freezer in addition to other game, as to accuracy it would be interesting to put this test in a bolt action at 100 yards and shoot two or three groups from each ammo type to compare avg group size
Honestly if it did, it wasn't even noticeable to the naked eye. Really just depended on what angel you looked at it from. One thing I didn't really like from either of them was how much lead and jacket was shed throughout the "meat." Maybe I'm putting too much stock in that though.🤷♂️
Awesome video again, really nice tests you present. I haven't hunted in +10 years, but I have taken deer with .308 and I always liked the nosler 165gn ballistic tip back then. I need to get it out and shoot some reloads before they go bad.
I'll tell you right now Tula I've used for The last 5 years a retain a lot of their weight that's why I use the 165 SP I wish they would make a 150 sp But drill a tiny hole on the FMJBT 150 in to govt 148 grain try it out against old school like my grandfather would used to new ballistic tips.
Man that mucked up the jelly lol! Wow on both, I believe you are ready to harvest a deer for sure! Seemed the non-tipped was more consistent on the chrono between shots and performed better than the tipped into bare gel. Maybe the tipped had a slower round into the gel so it came up a little short! Looked like that tipped bullet left a dirty black wound cavity that I would not want to have in my deer to clean or cut away. For that reason I choose the non-tipped, plus the price too! Guess you would get whatever is on the shelf if you need it either would get'r dun! Rocked that Jelly good! Peace brother!
for testing, more info is great. But in the final analysis all I care about is will it take down the game I am after with accuracy and with minimal use of ammo. Lastly it would depend upon which ammo my weapon liked better. Cost also plays into the equation but results always speak loudest.
I picked up the Core Lokt in 30-06 the other day thinking it was the same core Lokt I've always seen but was surprised to see VERY clean brass and a nice green tip. Thanks for the video 🤗
Love the cleetus hat and the channel. If you cut and screw a couple pieces of 1/2 or 3/4 plywood together it might save your table when shooting gel with the bigger calibers . Just a thought. Keep up the nice work. My new favorite channel
I absolutely love the shirt you're wearing, but as far as the weight retention, I expected that the tipped round would shed more weight because I knew the plastic tip would shed on impact so the weight retention difference was to be expected. Great video and would love to see more like this!
Thank you sir. I really need to do some more rifle testing. It's always tricky picking a distance to test it at. No matter where I pick, somebody is always gonna want to see it at a different one.😆
@@ToolsandTargets they are solid haven’t tried the new tipped yet! want to correct myself it was 2003 not 2001 I also shot the fusion when they came out in 2005 also a great bullet! Thanks for the video on the two bud! 👌
Another awesome video, we appreciate all your hard work testing and shooting. I don’t have a 308, altho I been looking at the PSA AR10 in 308. I do use a 270 Win to deer hunt and suspect the same test results with it using the core loct vs the tipped. Thanks, I’ll stick with the core lokt not to mention the 10 beans difference. Thanks again and keep the videos coming.
Thanks for making this detailed test. I prefer bonded or copper bullets to avoid the fragments. Great video !! Perfect length if they thinks it’s too long they can turn off you already got the view 😁
Thanks Tools, I need to get a scope on my AR 308 so that I can start shooting it some. I agree, the tipped ammo is nice but not .50 cent more per round nice. When it comes down closer in price to the regular core-lokt I'd buy a bunch and play around with it. Currently in my bolt gun for hunting I use regular core-lokt 130 grain and I have no complaints. I've fed a lot of those poison mushrooms to many deer and pigs.
Entertaining & Educational ! I haven't seen any of that nor was I looking but I have a Ruger bolt 308 & have norma. Sierra gambling, Federal and cpl brands of FMJ to sight in & target shoot. Haven't done any hunting yet but want to get hog trip in sometime.
I'm glad you did this test. It doesn't change my mind only confirms my thoughts. I have used Core-Lokt PSP in both 30-06 and 308 for years. It is my go to round for deer. The tipped ammo is to have a better Balistic Coefficient. So at longer range it might be more accurate, but one need to ask if they should be taking long range shots on game and not can they make long range shots on game.
If you should depends on if your capable of it, I always figure don't shoot any farther at game then your practice. If your whitetail hunting then there's not really a necessity, if your out west then the closest shot you get may be 500 yards across a valley. Of course one must also know the limits of the cartridge, just because you can hit a elk at 500 yards with your .243 doesn't make it a good idea.
@@ToolsandTargets there is also another consideration with the tipped core lokt I have heard in favor of them in heavier animals like Boar and Elk the point is there to aid with penetration and begin the penetration in a more controlled manner. Not sure though but it does seem like they would help on Eastern Elk.
Thanks for the video! I was wondering what these new corelokt were all about. Never had any issues hunting with the soft points. But with how hard ammo is to come by at least now i know i can buy whichever of these i can find and they will be pretty identical performance when im sighting in my new rifle and on my upcoming hunt.
I found the tipped cor lokts to be right on par with my nosler accubonds in my 308. As you can't find noslers on the shelf anywhere, they are an excellent backup and have roughly the same ballistic coefficient if I needed to reach out and touch a deer.
again nice testing, great grouping. I don't see a $10-$12 price difference to be worth it at all. but for those who don't see the ballistic Jelly tests wont know the difference ( if there is a difference) and pay the price thinking they really have something new and improved!
Remington corlocks have been some of the most consistent factory ammo I've ever used How about testing pointed and round nose same bullet weight thanks
I shoot 308 Winchester at long distance at targets. 800 to 1200 regularly and out to 1500 on occasions. A Savage m10 heavy fluted barrel 24" stock with hand loads. I've been interested in an Ar platform in 308 for some time. What brand rifle, barrel and twist is yours if you don't mind me asking? If you answered this already I apologize. If I may be so kind to say, you should try out the Federal Gold Metal Match for testing groups. Top notch consistently in velocity and accuracy in lots of different weapons platform's. I would be very interested to see both grouping and gel testing with the Sierra Matchking. Not recommended for hunting by Sierra. If you do test, make sure the tip is open or even enlarge it a bit. Maybe suprising results. This used to be used in Armed Forces as a sniper bullet in 168gr and my preferred, 175gr bullet. A 1/10 twist is pretty common and will usually work fine with either bullet. At 600 yards a 308 Winchester still thumps whitetail. Great videos. Keep'em coming!
Nice! This is a PSA upper I put on a PSA lower I put together. 20" 1:10 twist. I'll definitely have to check those rounds out because I just picked up a new rifle in .308 to test against this one. I have several different ammo types and I think Sierra Matchking might be one of them. Thank you sir!
Great test. would be curious if the difference changes at 100-200 yards. 3 years later the price difference is more like $15. just can't see the value in the tipped at that price difference
One is meant for long range while the other is more like 400 yards and closer. 308 at 60 yards should be very consistent with decent rounds but extend out to 700 and see which rounds are on target. Much different results with the tipped ammo.
I Great video, at this point with ammo you buy what you find. I have used Reg Cor Lok for 30 years but just bought 3 boxes of the tipped, I think the video shows you cant go wrog with either..
I shoot Nosler ballistic tips in my 30-06 my 243 and 25-06. I shoot the Nosler Accubonds in my 300 Winchester magnum. I like your videos Tools just do what you do buddy see y’all soon GOD BLESS
They both performed amazingly well! The amount of energy it takes to break the board and the table is nuts. I’d take whichever one was available to me without a second thought or doubt
Absolutely. These things brought the pain!
That was cool and very interesting. The traditional Core-Lokt .308 is my chosen deer hunting round out of that single shot NEF Handi Rifle. I would not spend any extra for the tipped given what was shown here. I was not prepared for the violence of the impact with that Gel. Holy Smokes! That was impressive. Darn good shooting Tools and a great video.
Thank you sir. Have to agree that I would keep the extra ten bucks in my pocket. That gel wanted to be the first jelly block on the moon!💥💥💥
If your shooting inside 300 yards it really doesn't matter which one you use...
If your shooting beyond that with handloads your a fool to not use the tipped (presuming your find a good load) because of retained performance
@@aaronunterseher1627 naw screw that!!! if you're reloading for 308, you load 155gr bergers cause they have a bc of .517 which is freaking awesome for 308!!!
I had a friend who had a NEF single shot. He let it go to get a bolt action. He still says he wishes he would have kept it!
@@allenbolen9705 Sellers regret, we've all been there. Only thing worse is a case of buyers regret. It's a vicious circle 😢
I think with the price difference I would be happy with just the regular core lock
100% agree!👍
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Yep. At a certain point, "improvements" to ammo just makes it fancy, but not significantly more effective. IMHO, the companies shouldn't waste time on R&D for this kind of thing.
"Hey, that wasn't an expensive, fancy-tipped bullet, so I'm not gonna die for you," said no deer ever.
But deer fall over faster if the bullet is more expensive and newer! And when the new stuff comes out, the older bullets just stop working as well. Maybe deer are adapting and become old school core-lokt proof? :)
The regular core loc are awesome and work every time
Been shooting the original core lokt .308 for years and they have never given me a reason to change. Great video very interesting. As always great job tools keep it up.
Thank you brother. I sure wouldn't change up after seeing this.👍
Yeah bro, my dad and I have used cor lok’s for 40 years on Antelope, Mule Deer, Elk, Big Horn Sheep and Mt Goat.. in 7mm And 270, 150 gr.. In Sako rifles and that ammunition has never not preformed!! And ruined a lot of big game’s day.. And our Sako’s like Remington cor lok ammunition!!
I have a difficult time trusting Remington ammo, in 2018, the Core Lokt that I bought in 30:06 shot scattered groups, could not get them to hit where I aimed. Found a box about ten years older, shot like it should have, driving tacks. I figured that the multiple bankruptcies resulted in some sort of changes in quality control, or powder formula.
I don't doubt that at all. I have a bunch of older late 90'sish Core-Lokt in .30-06.
A while back I took a shot at an 8pt white tail ( 190-200 lbs ) was using Federal Core Lock. $18.99 a box of 20 pre shortage prices. 150 grain. Shot was only 60yds. Probably a clone of the Remington. I looked immediately to see which direction he was headed after shooting but he was gone. It was my son’s rifle and I was in disbelief that I could’ve missed from that range. Especially aiming just below the shoulder. I waited 10-15 min and walked over where he was when I fired and found him laying within inches of where he was standing, the shot evidently knocked him off his feet and he was probably dead when he hit the ground (when we processed him it was a clean heart shot). This year I shot another large 8 point at a 150 yds with the same cartridge, same shot placement but this guy ran around 70 yds. Point being that the hydrostatic shock of a 308 inside 80-100 yds is massive, so for short range hunting as demonstrated by Mr. Tools the energy dump is incredible.
Nice! These things definitely dumped some serious energy.💥😎💥
Thanks!
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊
Another great test Tools. You just keep upping your game on the testing, very informative and fun to watch. Picked me up a 22LR Wildcat yesterday too add to my collection based on your review of it. Hoping to get the Heritage Rancher this week too add to my Heritage collection as well. Keep the videos coming, love watching them and what you do for the 2A community.
Really appreciate the comment brother! I think you'll really like both of those!😎
Need to see the ballistic tables to check how they both are at 200 and 300 yards. Do they reduce drop or drift? As for the tip helping consistency in expansion? Said nobody ever: I wish these Core-Lokts would open up better. Great video BTW - love the down-range chrono and jelly.
Thank you sir. That would for sure add some value if they have some greatly increased performance once you get pretty far out. for most people's hunting ranges, I'd say they are nothing special.
@@ToolsandTargets yup
I would think the tipped version might make a difference out at longer distances, but for hunting... and I don't hunt myself, but from what I hear, around here at least (NC), most deer are taken at 100 yards or less.
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Very cool! I searched for a video on that Core Lokt 150gr. .308 boolit because that's the same one that my Remmy R-15 uses in its .30 Remington AR chambering. I get about 2650 fps. or so from the 22" barrel on the R-15. It is quite accurate out of my rig also. More interesting to me was the gel test. Very nice.
The cor-lok 180grain SP is the only thing I've used for 40 years....KILLS EVERYTHING.!
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Those probably kick you pretty good old man. I like 150 SST's. 😮👍
@@JamesJones-cx5pk you sir are correct I have never found the 150 in the SP.
This is the video I was eagerly waiting for. Thanks for showing the difference in the two . It helps us decide if the price difference is worth it.
Appreciate you checking it out. I'm no expert but I would save my $10.🤷♂️
Thank you so much for this video. It was very informative! You do such an excellent job at this. I have been hunting for years and have always used the core locked .308 caliber in my Mauser 660 with a 24-inch Krupp steel barrel. It has never failed me. I can't see the extra $10 for the ballistic tip. But I would not have known that without your experiment. Once again, thank you so much for your expertise in this subject.
Really appreciate the comment! Glad I could be some help!😎👍
Thanks tools. I just said I wasn’t spending any more money this month and after watching this I just ordered a AR10 from PSA and 200 rounds of core lok lol
LOL, you're welcome!😂
Personally I always used the regular CoreLockd bullets they Always got the job Done, in many different Calibers they just Work, Thanks Tool's
I would definitely say they are every bit as good or better than the tipped. Appreciate ya brother!
Awesome video, really appreciate you putting that much effort into test these rounds. I think you just started a new trend, lol. Now we are going to wanna see .223, .300 blk and all the other popular rifle rounds. Keep up the good work
Thank you sir. I'm already getting more rifle requests.😂
Thanks for the video. Very informative. I’ve been using Core-Loks since 1967. Great performers. I have a collection of mushrooms recovered from game. They do the job. You don’t need an over engineered fancy high tech projectile. Thanks for your efforts.
Agreed. The vast majority of people would never see any benefit from the fancy ones.
Excellent comparison. I wish they could make a smoother soft point.. but I guess that's beyond the material. The Federals I got were all mashed up from when they seated the bullet. I suspect that's got more to do with the plastic tips than just ballistics.
It's great your doing rifle tests i love the trusty psp and would be fine out to 150 to 200yds if you noticed in the chrono tipped point of impact was inches higher at distance would carry more energy the farther you go and if you zero the rifle with tipped you can do it all😊 in Oregon the average shot is 40yds for white tail psp work just fine
I took my first buck with a 225 gr. PSP 338 Win Mag at about 35 yards. No need to track because it dropped in it's tracks. I found out later that the all the bullet tips were flattened a bit in the magazine. I think the tipped bullets might not deform as much. However, I never had a long range opportunity so spending the extra money for the tipped bullets wouldn't make a difference to me.
Agreed. I think most people will never really see the benefit of the tipped rounds at the distance they would hunt from.
Great test! Very impressive to see the energy dump on video. I would enjoy seeing more videos like this. Thanks!
Thank you sir. The energy dump was crazy!💥
Great video! Would definitely like to see more if these hi power rifle caliber videos.
Very happy to see Remington plant cranking out ammo again. More ammo supply is better than less ammo supply!
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To see if there's a 10 dollar difference probably should check group sizes at 200 yards or 275 yards. I think about 275 yards is maximum point blank range. Meaning that if you zero at 275 yards it should hit inside a 6 inch target being 3 inches high closer and no more than 3 inches low out to about 350 yards. I didn't explain it exactly right but that's the general idea depending on ballistics and bullet drop.
Well Tools this is pretty serious stuff with these 2 Remington 308s! Good work!
Thank you sir. This stuff meant business!
I think I would go with the reg. core lokt non tipped vs the tipped as they are $10 a box cheaper and virtually no difference in performance. Very interesting test for sure. Have a good one brother and I will see you on the next one.
Definitely agree. Appreciate ya catching the premiere!
the ballistic coefficient is different makes a difference at longer range negligible at 350 yards and under
Must be nice, 20 rounds near me is $37 😭
I like the soft point, it’s put a lot of groceries in the freezer. The penetration is not much better than the punch but a heck of a lot more ka-Boom from the 308 . Enjoyed the video man. That was some good shooting into the gel. U sure do a good job on keeping your gel clean and clear.
Thank you sir. It's starting to get a little yellow tint to it but still got some life left in it for sure.😎
The tipped wound channel to me appears to have tumbled. The separation to me is also a concern for hunting applications.
I had always used CoreLock in 30-06, but did more hunting for deer that were smaller, ( Florida.)
When I went to the .270, I had issues on larger bodied deer in Alabama with jacket separation from the lead core. I thing that would go to higher velocities.
I changed to Nosler Partitioned bullets in Fed. Premium and problem solved.
I was interested in seeing the difference in the new Remington bullet design. Interesting, there was a 100 fps variance in the 5 shot group in the tipped. That surprised me. Halfmile likely could offer more relevant substance than I if I heard the numbers correctly.
I don't know what didn't like that test more, the Jelly, or the table.
Great video Tools. Hunters were tuned into this one.
Yea, I was 3 hours late.
Better late than never! I wondered about all that lead and jacket separating into the meat myself. Maybe I'm overthinking it but if I hunted, I think I would prefer a really nice expanding solid copper round. But what do I know, I just hunt steel.🤷♂️
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With your thought processes, you could easily transition to hunting meat instead of steel.
Bwdik?
Im not a die hard deer hunter, but I've taken a few with my 30-06 and the the old school soft points have worked great.
Just about what I thought it would be. I’ve always liked the core loct ammo.
Thank You for another great video.
Keep em coming.
Thank you sir. They both made the jelly dance!
Yeah, I liked the way ya did this video. But I like all ya videos so for me to say I like this one better than any of your other ones you know I am a big hunter and I definitely like the educational part of it. But I like them all man....you do a great job! Keep up the great work brother and be safe. ✌
Appreciate that brother!😎👊
They both will truly do the trick
Absolutely!
Both worked great, will probably stick with the non tipped due to price and the fact that I shoot 3/4 moa with the non tipped out of my browning x bolt hunter in 308. I also shoot less than 1 moa out of my ruger m77 mk2 in 30 06. Really appreciate this video.👍👍
Thank you sir. Have to agree, sub moa out of this AR with the regular soft point tells me there aint no need to switch to the tipped ones.🤷♂️
The tipped version caused more pronounced ignition burns in the gel which implies a more explosive energy dump. Besides that they both produced equivalent PWC's. The soft tips are fool proof performance.
Very very informative I have always used cor locked and have never lost an animal in my 308 that includes elk moose mule deer and white tail
Another great video. I have Always liked the core lokt and had good luck with it. Hope Rem. don't try to phase out the old PSP for the new tipped version just so they can get more money. They have been super hard for me to find. We know how most of Rem. price has been of late. Really liked that accuracy test also. I think that is a great addition to the jelly test. Keep em coming brother!
Thank you sir. They would probably have a bunch of rioting hunters if they tried to get rid of the standard soft point!😆
I just bought 3 boxes of remington 308 corelokt, at Walmart and I have 7 boxes of federal powershok 308 all 150gr. I have found for standard calibers like 308, and 30-30, and 30-06 that the federal blue box and the old school corelokt ammo is loaded to the exact same specs, and In my rifles works about the same for accuracy, and performance on game.
ive been useing corelokt tipped in all my rifles, all calibers shoot great and moa. and no duds like plain corlokt
CoreLokts have been my go-to for deer hunting & haven't failed me yet. Used 6mm bolt gun, .270 Rem semi-auto, & Browning .30-06 semi auto. Funny that posters on other channels have been bad mouthing them, saying they don't shoot groups less than 6-8" @ 100 yds. Yet you just shot groups in the 1"-2" range with an AR. I call 💩 on them! Great video, & agree with the majority that the standard load is the way to go.
Yeah if they're shooting 6 -8 inch groups at 100, They might wanna stick to basket weaving. There's no doubt I could have gotten it even tighter with a truly solid shooting table and rest. These things did great from what I saw.👍
For the hell of it, I had to come back to watch this video again. I'm thinking I need to find some of these Remingtons for my new .308 rifle. Looks like both will work well, thanks for sharing.
Definitely good stuff.
I've been trying to convince my wife for years now that soft things are better.... ty tools can't wait to show her this
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dont you want to her to turn your soft ware to hard ware....
What a coincidence. I can't believe it. We've both been telling her the same thing for years. (sorry i couldn't resist the stupid joke.)
@@ToolsandTargets this was my favorite test you have done please do more hunting rounds one I would really like to see is something with 270 if you have that and love your content brother thank you
@@DontTreadOnMe-ig3pc Thank you sir. I'll see what I can some up with.👍
I tried the core lokt tipped recently out of a TC Venture .308 165 grain. I was impressed .75” group at 100 yards.
Nice.😎
Remington Core Lokt has been performing just like that for many years. There are more expensive bullets out there, but are they really better? You can likely get a little more accuracy, a little more range, and a little more terminal performance, but the Core Lokt still works very well on big game, and does it at a better price. And hell, ammunition is high enough without paying for Noslers and Sierras.
Amen!😎👍
I do appreciate you using the hunting rounds in the testing
Thank you sir. I'll try to do some more hunting stuff.👍
I have an old 30-06 which shot the Core-lokt just fine in the deer woods in Maine out to 200 yards. Now I'm out in CO and would love to take an elk. I'm considering using the 165 gr. tipped Core-lokt extending my range a bit out to 300-350 yards. This rifle had always seemed to shoot 165 gr a little better than any other grain. $10 more for a little higher BC w/ a little flatter trajectory may mean something. My hunt w/this rifle will be next year, but Remington certainly gave me something to think about.
Nice. I'm sure you'll get it done.👍
I love the 165 PSP . I haven't made the switch yet but considering solid copper 165 or 150 from pa my self
GREAT SCOTT! How did i miss this test? Well i seen it now...good stuff. Best time of the day is...well you know what time it is..
Jelly Time!💥💥💥
When these hit that Jelly I actually said "Holy S&%*" Even the wife came over to see this! I knew the 308 was a beast but dad-gum! Very Nice video and excellent shooting! Definitely would not pay $10 more tho!
LOL, my wife asked what I shot it with when she saw the video too!😂😂😂
Tools,
Somehow you have almost all my same wireless hole punchers. So I loved this vid.
Also I really appreciate you hitting the gel at some distance. I saw another but they shot at 10 yards. Yours is more indicative of reality.
They were doing same close distance on 223. Do you have a video on 223/556 at this same or similar 56 yard distance?
The only .223 video I have done is on the HELO rounds at pretty close distance. I definitely wanna do some more rifle stuff at a distance though.
That was a fun video to watch. I liked everything about the format. The Rem Core lokt is legendary in WI. It's killed enormous bucks from its introduction to present day. Sure, there are more advanced designs today that do offer advantages over it. That being said, a Rem Core Lokt out of a 308 or 30-06 with a 150 or 165 gr bullet has been standard here for the average deer hunter for decades. I like to site in at 50 yards because my average shot is 20-60 yards. When I get a shot at 100-150 yards the 50 yard zero with a 308 or my 7mm mag is still well within the vitals.
Thank you sir. That's why I didn't take this test out to 100 yards. Some people like to think they're gonna snipe a deer at 500 yards but in reality, I suspect most kills are well under 100 yards.👍
If the tipped version had more wound Chanel then I would say as to its purpose in hunting the regular core lokt bullet would be an advantage as would damage less meat not even mentioning the difference in cost, when I hunted regularly I used the old core lokt and it has taken many deer for my freezer in addition to other game, as to accuracy it would be interesting to put this test in a bolt action at 100 yards and shoot two or three groups from each ammo type to compare avg group size
Honestly if it did, it wasn't even noticeable to the naked eye. Really just depended on what angel you looked at it from. One thing I didn't really like from either of them was how much lead and jacket was shed throughout the "meat." Maybe I'm putting too much stock in that though.🤷♂️
Fantastic test and review, it was good to see the quick review of the weight and expansion, thanks!
Thank you sir.😎👍
Great test tools I think for the price I would stick with the soft tip. They really did a job on that gel!!!
Thank you sir. The gel is still in shock!
Great video Sir. Love the AR10 ammo gel tests.
Thanks! I am planning to do some more soon!😎
For short range hunting I’d definitely take te standard for weight retention and no plastic tips in an AR.
Awesome video again, really nice tests you present. I haven't hunted in +10 years, but I have taken deer with .308 and I always liked the nosler 165gn ballistic tip back then. I need to get it out and shoot some reloads before they go bad.
Thank you brother. I don't hunt but I love shooting .308.😎
I already use both of these - the core locked for hogs & the tipped for mule deer , perfect on both counts
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I'd say both would be fine for black bear. Super test
I'll tell you right now Tula I've used for The last 5 years a retain a lot of their weight that's why I use the 165 SP
I wish they would make a 150 sp
But drill a tiny hole on the FMJBT 150
in to govt 148 grain try it out against old school like my grandfather would used to new ballistic tips.
.308 will get the job done.😎👍
I like the way you compared these two bullets I’ve been waiting for this 👍🏻🇺🇸
Thank you sir. It was a very cool test.😎
Thanks for the comparison....well done!!!
Thank you sir.😎👍
That’s why I reload Tools I know what I’m getting with my reloading now. I like the core-lokt in a magnum round.
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Man that mucked up the jelly lol! Wow on both, I believe you are ready to harvest a deer for sure! Seemed the non-tipped was more consistent on the chrono between shots and performed better than the tipped into bare gel. Maybe the tipped had a slower round into the gel so it came up a little short! Looked like that tipped bullet left a dirty black wound cavity that I would not want to have in my deer to clean or cut away. For that reason I choose the non-tipped, plus the price too! Guess you would get whatever is on the shelf if you need it either would get'r dun! Rocked that Jelly good! Peace brother!
Yessir. Sent the jelly flyin. I agree though if I have the choice, I'm takin the regular.👍
The tipped version will probably be more reliable in autoloaders. My armalite is older, and the manual recommended against soft point bullets.
It may have better ballistics out at 200 yards plus too.🤷♂️
Great seeing the velocity test and the accuracy test done simultaneously.
Appreciate you checkin it out!😎👍
for testing, more info is great. But in the final analysis all I care about is will it take down
the game I am after with accuracy and with minimal use of ammo. Lastly it would depend
upon which ammo my weapon liked better. Cost also plays into the equation but results
always speak loudest.
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Great results. Excellent content. Thank you so much. Looks promising for this new offering. Old core-lokt isn't a bad option.
Thank you sir. They both rocked the jelly's socks!
I picked up the Core Lokt in 30-06 the other day thinking it was the same core Lokt I've always seen but was surprised to see VERY clean brass and a nice green tip. Thanks for the video 🤗
Appreciate you checkin it out!
Federal Fusion, Winchester Trophy Bonded or Remington Core Lokt. Either of the three, you’re doing good
Love the cleetus hat and the channel. If you cut and screw a couple pieces of 1/2 or 3/4 plywood together it might save your table when shooting gel with the bigger calibers . Just a thought. Keep up the nice work. My new favorite channel
Thank you sir. I'm definitely gonna have to step up the wood base for these big rounds. That particle board was like paper under this energy.😆
I absolutely love the shirt you're wearing, but as far as the weight retention, I expected that the tipped round would shed more weight because I knew the plastic tip would shed on impact so the weight retention difference was to be expected. Great video and would love to see more like this!
Thank you sir. I really need to do some more rifle testing. It's always tricky picking a distance to test it at. No matter where I pick, somebody is always gonna want to see it at a different one.😆
Been shooting old core locks since 2001 love them always do the job! 👍
Looks like a good one to me.😎👍
@@ToolsandTargets they are solid haven’t tried the new tipped yet! want to correct myself it was 2003 not 2001 I also shot the fusion when they came out in 2005 also a great bullet! Thanks for the video on the two bud! 👌
Another awesome video, we appreciate all your hard work testing and shooting. I don’t have a 308, altho I been looking at the PSA AR10 in 308. I do use a 270 Win to deer hunt and suspect the same test results with it using the core loct vs the tipped. Thanks, I’ll stick with the core lokt not to mention the 10 beans difference. Thanks again and keep the videos coming.
Thank you sir. Regular seemed like it did the job to me.👍
Thanks for making this detailed test. I prefer bonded or copper bullets to avoid the fragments. Great video !! Perfect length if they thinks it’s too long they can turn off you already got the view 😁
Thank you sir. I was wondering about all the fragments myself.
I would go with which ever one shot best in my rifle, either one will work on game for sure. Thanks for the test.
Agreed. Appreciate you checkin it out!
Thanks Tools, I need to get a scope on my AR 308 so that I can start shooting it some. I agree, the tipped ammo is nice but not .50 cent more per round nice. When it comes down closer in price to the regular core-lokt I'd buy a bunch and play around with it. Currently in my bolt gun for hunting I use regular core-lokt 130 grain and I have no complaints. I've fed a lot of those poison mushrooms to many deer and pigs.
Appreciate ya checkin it out brother. It's definitely not worth the price difference. Just the newest thing for people to rave about.🤷♂️
New sub here. Loved this vid. Can you tell me the name of the tool you use to measure your groups, and where you got it? Thanks!
I went hunting today with 7.62x39 Ruger American ranch. 123 Federal Fusion 123 Bonded soft point.
Nice. I have some soft point 7.62x39 Tula.
bringin out the big guns
I might become a full time deer hunter next!💥🦌💥
Gotta start somewhere
Entertaining & Educational ! I haven't seen any of that nor was I looking but I have a Ruger bolt 308 & have norma. Sierra gambling, Federal and cpl brands of FMJ to sight in & target shoot. Haven't done any hunting yet but want to get hog trip in sometime.
Thank you sir. I have a pile of other .308 rounds I may test some more of.👍
I really like the idea of jelly tests geared towards hunting! I am thinking I might need a 308....
I need to do some more rifle stuff for sure.😎👍
Another great video and I do have used both.
I've been hunting me entire life and Im always comfortable loading up with soft points. They just work.
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I'm glad you did this test. It doesn't change my mind only confirms my thoughts. I have used Core-Lokt PSP in both 30-06 and 308 for years. It is my go to round for deer.
The tipped ammo is to have a better Balistic Coefficient. So at longer range it might be more accurate, but one need to ask if they should be taking long range shots on game and not can they make long range shots on game.
Very well said.👍
If you should depends on if your capable of it, I always figure don't shoot any farther at game then your practice. If your whitetail hunting then there's not really a necessity, if your out west then the closest shot you get may be 500 yards across a valley.
Of course one must also know the limits of the cartridge, just because you can hit a elk at 500 yards with your .243 doesn't make it a good idea.
@@ToolsandTargets there is also another consideration with the tipped core lokt I have heard in favor of them in heavier animals like Boar and Elk the point is there to aid with penetration and begin the penetration in a more controlled manner. Not sure though but it does seem like they would help on Eastern Elk.
Thanks for the video! I was wondering what these new corelokt were all about. Never had any issues hunting with the soft points. But with how hard ammo is to come by at least now i know i can buy whichever of these i can find and they will be pretty identical performance when im sighting in my new rifle and on my upcoming hunt.
Absolutely. They both look like great choices!
I found the tipped cor lokts to be right on par with my nosler accubonds in my 308. As you can't find noslers on the shelf anywhere, they are an excellent backup and have roughly the same ballistic coefficient if I needed to reach out and touch a deer.
again nice testing, great grouping. I don't see a $10-$12 price difference to be worth it at all. but for those who don't see the ballistic Jelly tests wont know the difference ( if there is a difference) and pay the price thinking they really have something new and improved!
Thank you sir. I totally agree. If I didn't have the ability to test them like this, I would just assume they were something way better.
@@ToolsandTargets yes but at longer range. Would they expand better? Just saying.
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Remington corlocks have been some of the most consistent factory ammo I've ever used How about testing pointed and round nose same bullet weight thanks
Thanks for the time you & other people spend entertaining us with your videos. 👍
My pleasure brother! Thanks for your support!😎👊
@@ToolsandTargets Halfmilesniper has a video coming up comparing a softnose& a tipped round in 350 Legend. Should be interesting.
I shoot 308 Winchester at long distance at targets. 800 to 1200 regularly and out to 1500 on occasions. A Savage m10 heavy fluted barrel 24" stock with hand loads. I've been interested in an Ar platform in 308 for some time. What brand rifle, barrel and twist is yours if you don't mind me asking? If you answered this already I apologize.
If I may be so kind to say, you should try out the Federal Gold Metal Match for testing groups. Top notch consistently in velocity and accuracy in lots of different weapons platform's. I would be very interested to see both grouping and gel testing with the Sierra Matchking. Not recommended for hunting by Sierra. If you do test, make sure the tip is open or even enlarge it a bit. Maybe suprising results. This used to be used in Armed Forces as a sniper bullet in 168gr and my preferred, 175gr bullet. A 1/10 twist is pretty common and will usually work fine with either bullet. At 600 yards a 308 Winchester still thumps whitetail.
Great videos.
Keep'em coming!
Nice! This is a PSA upper I put on a PSA lower I put together. 20" 1:10 twist. I'll definitely have to check those rounds out because I just picked up a new rifle in .308 to test against this one. I have several different ammo types and I think Sierra Matchking might be one of them. Thank you sir!
Great test. would be curious if the difference changes at 100-200 yards. 3 years later the price difference is more like $15. just can't see the value in the tipped at that price difference
One is meant for long range while the other is more like 400 yards and closer. 308 at 60 yards should be very consistent with decent rounds but extend out to 700 and see which rounds are on target. Much different results with the tipped ammo.
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Great video sir! Don’t see how you could have made it better!
Thank you brother. Appreciate that!
This looked like fun, thanks for another educational video, enjoyable.
Thank you sir. My jelly didn't have much fun doing it!😆
Great Jelly Test Tools I would go with the Regular core lock for Deer 🦌 Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸
Thank you sir. Agreed!
You do some awesome testing with incredible results, keep up the great work tools.
Really appreciate that brother. Thanks for the support!😎👊
I think both have pros and cons but that being said, I think the original Core Lokt ammo is a proven round and I am satisfied with its performance.
I Great video, at this point with ammo you buy what you find. I have used Reg Cor Lok for 30 years but just bought 3 boxes of the tipped, I think the video shows you cant go wrog with either..
Agreed.👍
Great video great caliber tools. Thought I was subbed but made sure I am now.
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!
That was cool.
Honestly, all I got out of this video was realizing I need a T-Shirt that says, "Flung it all Whichaway"
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Good test T , all the info is wourth your effort
Appreciate that brother!
Great video.
I like the larger calbiares.
Thank you sir. These things definitely worked the jelly!
I shoot Nosler ballistic tips in my 30-06 my 243 and 25-06. I shoot the Nosler Accubonds in my 300 Winchester magnum. I like your videos Tools just do what you do buddy see y’all soon GOD BLESS
Thank you sir.😎
Great video Tools. I would save the $10, and buy primers.
Thank you sir. Definitely agree with that one!