Tbh, the "now his media is getting bloody rare" double meaning became apparent for me when I heard the word in the OST. And I went to re-watch it to see if it was in the images (and it was). I never thought of it as a zeugma but just as a cool pun. But I agree with your interpretation, language is not only verbal, so I'm totally pro accepting the visual cue as part of a zeugma 🎉
I would count the Vox one as a zeugma. I'm more inclined to count the visual component as part of the meaning because it feels like it's Vox, within the text, saying "haha, look at this double meaning. If you were listening to Alastor's stupid radio show, you wouldn't get this right now. Truly, television is the medium of the future (and also the present)"
ah yes, i have listened to that one line **bloody rare over and over. thank you for telling me what a zeugma is now time to brag to my friends about my ever-growing vocab
@chloeeastwood6696 There's a lot of double meaning innuendos in his song Poison, like how he's choking and swallowing up the poison. But im not sure that counts as zeugma?
I definitely see the double meanings, and the song is a metaphor for abusive, inescapable relationships. It's one of my favorites to listen to and watch. I went through the lyrics and didn't find zeugmas, but that's okay. It's super rarely used because it has to do something so specific. There would be a zeugma if he said, "I swallow your poison and my pride." Swallowing poison is literal. He's drinking. Swallowing pride is a saying, meaning you've humbled yourself.
Trying to write a response feels like being dragged back to english class. It was constantly my worst grade. Despite this i do enjoy discussing media on the internet. Go figure. I feel like the intent from the creative team for Vox is a pun. Madrano probably wanted a pun. The fact that it could be interpreted as a zeugma is more of a happy accident. And maybe someone explained this in the writing room and they wrote another one in episode six. Madrano likes puns and double meanings. As do i an a lot of fans.
I admit the entire video is could not stop thinking about michael jackson’s Beat It. The phrase itself has teo different meanings, let’s fight and go away. The song is lyrically at it’s best when it is about this contradiction. My favourite line is “Don't wanna be a boy, you wanna be a man”. A man should be responsible enough to know when to walk away from a fight that is stupid or unwinnable. A boy might start a pointless fight for pride or ego. On the other hand, a man should be brave enough to stand and fight to defend themselves or others where a boy might runaway in fear. Anyway other people have broken this down better than i have. I am not saying this is an example of a zeugma. It is just what i was thinking about the whole video. In stead of my usual staring at a painting.
Tbh, the "now his media is getting bloody rare" double meaning became apparent for me when I heard the word in the OST. And I went to re-watch it to see if it was in the images (and it was). I never thought of it as a zeugma but just as a cool pun. But I agree with your interpretation, language is not only verbal, so I'm totally pro accepting the visual cue as part of a zeugma 🎉
She's just so playful with her use of language. :D
I would count the Vox one as a zeugma. I'm more inclined to count the visual component as part of the meaning because it feels like it's Vox, within the text, saying "haha, look at this double meaning. If you were listening to Alastor's stupid radio show, you wouldn't get this right now. Truly, television is the medium of the future (and also the present)"
100% agree!
Really liked this breakdown, and I'll be on the hunt for Zeugmas going forward.
Zeugma is such a cool word
Isn't it? I love how Medrano writes. 😀
ah yes, i have listened to that one line **bloody rare over and over. thank you for telling me what a zeugma is now time to brag to my friends about my ever-growing vocab
Also when he says they pivoted medias alastor literally pivots away
Yessss I didn't catch that one. Well spotted!
Haven't heard of that literary device before, but listening to this, it's pretty interesting. Good work!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed
I'm pretty sure Angel Dust worked multiple 'Zeugma's over the show considering how much he flexed his wit and waist.
Ooh, I didn't notice them! Care to share?
@chloeeastwood6696 There's a lot of double meaning innuendos in his song Poison, like how he's choking and swallowing up the poison. But im not sure that counts as zeugma?
I definitely see the double meanings, and the song is a metaphor for abusive, inescapable relationships. It's one of my favorites to listen to and watch. I went through the lyrics and didn't find zeugmas, but that's okay. It's super rarely used because it has to do something so specific. There would be a zeugma if he said, "I swallow your poison and my pride." Swallowing poison is literal. He's drinking. Swallowing pride is a saying, meaning you've humbled yourself.
OMG my gf just pointed out that YOU used a zeugma. So clever!!!!!
Trying to write a response feels like being dragged back to english class. It was constantly my worst grade. Despite this i do enjoy discussing media on the internet. Go figure.
I feel like the intent from the creative team for Vox is a pun. Madrano probably wanted a pun. The fact that it could be interpreted as a zeugma is more of a happy accident. And maybe someone explained this in the writing room and they wrote another one in episode six.
Madrano likes puns and double meanings. As do i an a lot of fans.
I admit the entire video is could not stop thinking about michael jackson’s Beat It. The phrase itself has teo different meanings, let’s fight and go away. The song is lyrically at it’s best when it is about this contradiction.
My favourite line is “Don't wanna be a boy, you wanna be a man”. A man should be responsible enough to know when to walk away from a fight that is stupid or unwinnable. A boy might start a pointless fight for pride or ego. On the other hand, a man should be brave enough to stand and fight to defend themselves or others where a boy might runaway in fear.
Anyway other people have broken this down better than i have. I am not saying this is an example of a zeugma. It is just what i was thinking about the whole video. In stead of my usual staring at a painting.
Haha, well, if she reinvented it, then I'd give her double credit~