New concrete driveway fail = flooded house
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This was my house. Words cannot express how grateful I am to Shawn and Harvey for fixing this driveway nightmare. Finally, I had someone who cared about doing it right! If you live in the Triad area of NC and you have a drainage problem....CALL SHAWN!
Thank you Patti! I'm glad we got things solved for you!
I have major drainage issues as well but this crew is too far
Nobody around Chicago,NWI does this kind of work drainage French drains and regrading ect. :(
@@GCFD why did you put rebar? It’s a relatively small expense and it adds so much more life to the driveway.
Sue the 1st contractor and get his license canceled.
@@leolldankology I called 15+ attorneys and no one would take the case because there was not enough money involved for them to litigate. I could win in small claims court, BUT, in NC the contractor could just appeal it to District Court where I would then need an attorney, so I think you can see the problem there. Also, unfortunately you don't need a license in NC to do concrete so that was also not an option.
The world needs more kind honest people like you.
Thank you!
Yeah I agree , I believe Shawn would rather pass on a job than do it subpar
Yep, hardest thing I've found with being a homeowner is finding trustworthy contractors/tradespeople.
@@timearp8185 20 years of being a homeowner, the only thing I've ever hired out was having trees cut down. And 2 hours in, I ended up firing those guys because they damaged the other surrounding trees.
lmao i just saw the first part of the video lol they know they didnt have to take out that much lmao that little we are the best in the city of richmond the best if u think am lying if your need anything poured contact us Garland Haskins Leon Harris H-H Concrete
What a great investment with the concrete buggy. You were so excited when it finally showed up. Definitely saving on labor and pain. Great job Shawn
It's been great. The other thing is Harvey rents it from me all the time now. I give him a trailer and his guys can come get it whenever and not have to worry about anything. It's a huge labor savings on his crew since it is so easy to get it now.
I used to watch a lot of Apple Drains video until I found your channel. I’m convinced after watching both channels that PVC is the way to go. Great job and keep up the incredible videos!
Thank you Rod! I'm glad you're enjoying the channel!
Props to you for redoing it right. Damn that's a lot of work.
👍 Now it's done forever.
Awesome job, I'm so glad you got to help her. Years ago we hired a guy to replace our roof shingles, he tore off old roof and tarped it, the next day it rained and flooded our home, every single room flooded, water literally was poring out of all ceiling light fixtures, found out the guy put up tarps that where full of holes, he disappeared a week later and we had to track him down
four days later after the house somewhat started to dry we all got horrible sore throats
Don’t know we’re you Iive but have did try watching the weather report before having your roof removed
3 vids in a day!! You’re on the grind 👍
👍 Thank you!
The rain finally came!
@@dapacreative Yess!
If this was my home, or even if I was the neighbor, I’d buy these guys beers and set up a bbq for them.
Honesty and solid workmanship sometimes deserves a reward along with the pay check.
Thank you!
I don't own a property with a yard or anything that I'd need to worry about drainage personally, but damn does watching your videos make me want to have a drainage problem so I can get it fixed.
Haha be glad you don't have these problems!
you have pride in your work and people who appreciate good work , you will never have to advertise you customers will do it free off charge, you are a great guy with pride.
👍 Thank you!
Glad it rained so we could get some more videos. Keep it up!
👍 Thank you for watching and commenting! - Shawn
Good for you for fixing it the right way even though it meant removing the concrete! Great job
Thank you! It was a tough decision ripping out that concrete but the only way to fix it correctly.
I just found your TH-cam and wanted to let you know how nice it is to hear someone on TH-cam with a college level vocabulary besides your excellent work.
Thank you Jeffrey! MS in BIology! 2007.
I would be devastated, some contractors shouldn't even be in business, this is why I check reviews before hiring any company. You guys are awesome for your knowledge, skills, experience and craftsmanship.
Thank you! The homeowner was pretty upset about it because she wasn't finding anyone to help her after the original contractor left her with that problem.
Love your videos hope u make them longer! I’m a roofing contractor in Texas and work with a lot of gutter subs and landscapers that claim to fix water issues. But u are beyond knowledgeable about how u approach each job you would be the king in Texas!
Thank you! I enjoy the problem solving aspect. I travel to TX to ride my mountain bike and especially like Palo Duro Canyon south of Amarillo 👍
@@GCFD I’m in east Texas on Cedar Creek Lake tons of rain yearly! Your work would change peoples lives down here
Matt: would you do a video on correct gutter installation and also what a gutter installer should not do? I’ve had flooding and the French drain installer said the gutters were the problem. All I know is my garage still floods.
Jobs like this will break your heart with so much waste that could have been avoided. Your concrete guys are so cool. I enjoy watching experts screed and float new concrete. I've never seen a bull float with an arm that long before. You guys were lucky to get rain after it set so you didn't have to keep wetting it. I hope the news gave you guys some free advertising for doing what should have been done initially. You certainly deserve it! "You never want to bad mouth anyone else's work. You just want to move forward." What a great example you set for others.
Wow! That concrete guy did a terrible job, he basically ruined the poor lady’s house 😪. It looks like he didn’t even smooth the concrete let alone making sure it wasn’t sloping towards the house! I feel so bad for the lady.. 😢
The original guy sure made a huge mess! Luckily it's over now and things are fixed correctly now.
@@GCFD Yeah, luckily the lady got some money back
No mesh or rebar or anything either
@@wesley00042 I noticed that as well. Seems they put cuts in the concrete to relieve pressure instead
@@wesley00042 The new concrete has no rebar in it... So cheap to add about 10x strength to your concrete.....
I'm impressed, you always do things the right way! I was so concerned you'd just put in a channel drain at the start of the video. Tearing out new concrete and re-pouring it was really the correct fix.
For sure! I could have charged for a channel drain which is what everyone was pushing for. But that wouldn't have offered 100% protection.
Curious if a simple 2" lip of concrete all the way down the edge of the old slab could have prevented the water from washing into house
In theory it would work, but leaving the house lower means the tiniest pinhole would still leak. When you take a problem like that and try to fix it (anything you do) means you now own the entire thing, so I wasn't willing to leave the house vulnerable to flooding.
Honestly what you did their is what needed to be done we appreciate your hard work bat as a General Contractor for 25 years we always used Metal flashing under the siding and below the concretes grade this will prevent all water damage the only way to go. It isn’t hard to replace the bottom piece of siding and replace it that’s an awesome some. But thanks for paying it forward.
Thank you Rick! The homeowner is getting all new siding later this summer so she knows to place some flashing above her house slab. Thanks for watching! - Shawn
wouldnt u want ur edges of ur slab to b much thicker almost like a mono pour anyway bravo to u and all the people helpin out neighbors congrates to u
We pour the edges thicker when a structure is going on the slab but not for a driveway. Great question!
I need these guys or someone like them here in Cleveland. My drainage sucks and nobody knows how to solve the problem!
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I've seen this in a couple of videos of yours where you pour new concrete without rebar or wire mesh reinforcing. Here in Canada we put reinforcing in every pour we do....is it not required by your local code? The driveway would be much stronger and wouldn't crack with the steel in the pour.
We have extremely stable subsoils around here and nobody uses rebar. We do find rebar every once in a while in something that we are tearing out.
@@GCFD Thanks for answering this. I've been wondering for awhile why you put in the best drainage pipe, then skimped on concrete reinforcement.
@@neeosstuff7540 ppl
You really need wire mesh and a lot of joints up north in the colder weather because the grounds freeze. It's not needed in tropical climates like here. If I were doing it though, I would use at least the wire mesh. It's not that much more money and it really holds up nicely. But again that's really just a personal opinion and it doesn't require it.
@@TheCapitalVice Never seen concrete without rebar 1 foot on center and I live in the south on the Ocean!! I can not believe you are pouring without rebar or even fiberglass strand!!! Ya learn something every day!!! I am guessing this is for flatwork only and rebar is used on foundations every time?
What a great story from start to finish. Glad you guys were able to help her out!
👍 I am too!
This is my 2 sense of Eastern European engineering that would solve this issue. If you took the perimeter of the concrete next to the house and a concrete saw and you cut out a 2" drainage cavity along the concrete of the house and tapered it either to the back of the house or to the front or ran it into a pipe you would not have to throw anything out. Then you could cover that cavity with a nice plastic or metal mesh. This would be much cheaper for the homeowner and a quick job and it would solve the issue that easy wait. Have to think outside of the Box sometimes
👍 Nice Idea. The problem with that is if your drainage cavity every became overwhelmed the house would instantly flood again. Lowering the driveway below the house slab and sloping it away was the only complete solution here.
Do you not use expansion joints? And why not use the joint to add a Chanel to rout gutter water to the far side of her driveway? But the dry line is a win.
Your thinking outside of the box is every time the channel gets clogged with debris her house floods?
How horrible. Great job coming to her rescue!
Yes it was a disaster!
You, your team and the (good) concrete guys did an amazing job!
Thank you! The homeowner is happy to have this nightmare fixed.
@@GCFD Too bad I'm not in the area, I'd have done her floor for nothing. After it dried out it would have taken less than a day.
That Bobcat is great! Quick & well worth the money spent! I’m sure your business is doing well!
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Out of curiosity, why wasn't it an option to just add the new concrete in the area the old guy removed so it slopes from the house to the driveway?
That was an option. The problem with that is the slab was still sloping into the house and still higher than the house slab. This means flooding could still occur if the two ever separated or the new concrete got overwhelmed. Since it was a house, we went with the 100% solution.
How u changed elevations would of saved money
good customer service, Shawn. No reinforcing wire under concrete
No wire needed in our area. We don't have a frost line and no bentonite.
Nice save! Glad to hear the homeowner got some of her money back from the incompetent contractor. He should have known better. It's only right he be paid for the part of the driveway that was kept but he should have been fully responsible for also paying to fix the flood damage that was a direct result of his incompetence. How many people he has done this to, who unlike this homeowner couldn't afford to have someone else come and fix his poor workmanship?
Great comment! It's scary to think he is still out there pouring concrete and being so dishonest.
Hello Just ran into your channel. Hey folks save your money. Here in Central FL we get lots of rain so best option is a “ribbon driveway”. Pavers, and gravel in between the pavers and on the edges of pavers and house. Never had flooding problem. Add some gravel once in a while for maintenance. 👍🏻
We have impermeable clay subsoils here.
It's painful to see new shiny concrete being crushed because someone failed at the basics... 😢
It was sooo painful. It was also painful to have to tell the homeowner we had to rip it out. That was the only option for a 100% solution that would not leave her house downslope of the concrete.
That is pure negligence. I hope the customer is compensated for the poor job.
👍 She got some of the money back but still lost some.
This is so disturbing. After recently getting an estimate for my driveway, I can’t imagine the original,demo,grading and replacement costs. 🤮. Shawn and the Full Bubble Gang to the rescue.
👍 This homeowner was feeling so defeated when she first called me out. She was having zero luck with the contractor who poured and the flooding was continuing. We were able to get right out there and jump on the solution quickly which took a huge load of stress off of her. Bringing the news into the situation was brilliant and provided the pressure on the original guy, plus she left a ton of negative reviews and pictures on social media.
@@GCFD Bringing the news media in was a stroke of genius. From what I've read elsewhere, many companies have run into problems staying in business when their name is even linked to something which seems shady or racist or "whatever". As it is, construction has enough issues with bad work performed so many people don't trust anyone to do the work correctly. Reminds me of a local cabinet maker. He wanted to retire, but nobody wanted to buy the company since his standards were of a Master Craftsman, which to many means "expensive". Too many people these days want the Ikea special furniture (mostly particle board) instead of well made cabinets which will last a lifetime. Eventually the cabinet maker just closed his business. He was getting into his late 70's and he was tired.
Thanks for showing how a correct construction job should be done.
Where did the 'Full Bubble Gang name come from aside from S. constantly referring to it?
Cam, it’s a good lesson for us all. Ask tradesmen about the fall and where will the water go. Water can cause a lot of damage as seen in this example. Great work Shawn. 👍
How thick are you pouring the new driveway? It only look like 2 inches max. I could be wrong but I am happy to see you helping this wonderful lady out.
We pour 4" for driveways, sidewalks, patios around here.
That concrete guy needs to be slapped. No care, no due diligence, just pour the concrete, get the check, and leave. Anything else is not his problem. Real class act that guy. Glad she contacted you.
Yes I agree. He only agreed to give her a check if she took down the negative reviews, so LOOK OUT!
@@GCFD guess she didnt agree about the news article being taken down .
No kidding. That guy should know better than slope the drive to the house. He clearly didn't give a shit.
It sounds like the homeowner asked for the cheapest job possible, so no excavation, no grading. I dont think the concrete guy owns all the blame for this.
@@wendymorrison5803 Nope....I had a signed contract with the original contractor stating that the driveway would be 4" thick, original asphalt driveway removed and area graded to slope away from the house. Also had a 1 year workmanship warranty from the original contractor. And also BTW, the original contractor was not the cheapest quote I received.
I love those little Bobcats, and I love making things right even more! 😍 This was great to see.
As a senior leader in my profession the best part is at 10:46 "HEY, HURRY BACK!"
That's how u run a damn crew folks!
Haha
glad to see you fixed this feel so bad for the lady that just messed up she got more problems then most this because i am sure that sheet rock got wet also from that water coming in.
Now she can move forward with her home.
I’m curious if you waterproofed the foundation of the house after tearing out the concrete. And, I noticed that the drainpipe from he gutter was just leading out on to the drive way. Won’t that possibly lead to problems later on, especially during heavy rainstorms?
Yes the homeowner did some waterproofing along the slab. And no, the gutter water on the concrete won't be a problem since we properly sloped the concrete. There wasn't enough fall to send the water into a pipe.
Only waterproofing no flashing right
I’m addicted to this channel
I've worked in the building industry in Australia all my life, and what this lady had happen happens often.
In Australia concrete is the only trade you don't need an apprenticeship for.
What happens is guys that have done a bit of floating or wheeled a barrow, they think: "hey this is easy as", they get a Builders License and are let loose on the GP! Very few of them ever take into account where the water is going to go when they set up and box. To fall concrete into a building is evidence he gave absolutely no thought to drainage!
By the way, in Australia, people who have building work done, that is sub standard can call the Department of Building and Consumer Affairs in any state, and the guy is held accountable for his work! Of course this is OK if the guy is licensed. Using unlicensed tradesmen is discouraged because legally, your screwed!
I notice he also did a botch job of cutting the lowest plank on the cladding. It looks like a crocodile ravaged it!
Thanks for sharing! I wondered it anyone would notice that cut job on the siding. Luckily she is getting new siding later this year.
@@GCFD yes, it was the first thing I noticed. Glad the home owner will sort it out. Plenty of scrupulous tradespeople in Australia in the concrete industry but there are plenty good honest ones too. Concrete around a home can be fantastic as long as it slopes away from the home as Shawn says.
You can do all the right things, get three quotes, check references, see past work and still get screwed. A proper company would remedy they're own mistake. But glad you were there to correct the issue properly. Also happy to hear the local news was there. Hopefully she gets some compensation from the original contractor. I always try and use local established contractors for jobs and beware of the underbidders, you get what you pay for.........Happy to hear she got some money back from original contractor
Great comment!
Harvey and his crew are amazing real professionals and continue keeping it real and being honest.
👍 I agree! They have solved some tough drainage issues for me and my customers.
Shawn, you do amazing work and your crew is the best! Thank you for documenting this on video and sharing.
Thank you! Thanks for watching and commenting!
13:04 those 9X9 tiles look to be of the asbestos recipe. Leave them be if you can ma'am.
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This is the problem with these non experienced contractors in your neighborhoods! Lazy people just decide to say hey why don’t I ask these guys to do the work! Looks are deceiving! Pay attention to what tools/machinery your contractors have & are using! Great job man! Glad you did this Video! 👌👍👊🏻
Thank you Lenny!
Love the pride you guys take in your work.
Not the norm These days it's just sad what people will do just to make buck.
Thank you! Thanks for commenting David - Shawn
What surprises me with the new concrete is that it looks like there has not been put a wire-mesh/metal-grid inside - is that not usual in your area?
Won't the concrete without it crack easily once a heavier delivery truck or something drives onto it?
We have extremely stable subsoils here so we rarely ever see rebar or mesh used in driveways, patios, and walkways.
@@GCFD Thank you for explaining!
@@GCFD now I understand as to why no rebar was used. Thanks
Awesome job man it's good to see there are people with a heart...fine job man...
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And no rebar equals easy demolition; those concrete chunks would make a nice decorative retaining wall or tree circles.
Haha, They got recycled.
Yay another video!
It was a late night. 👍
My neighbor just had a 50 to 75 foot walkway put in. Not one expansion joint. just one long slab.
That's weird. The control joints are designed to let the slab crack and have the crack be hidden.
Great story Shawn, a professional job, with a great result.
I’ve been around the construction biz for a long time. If you get a company that comes out with a shiny car and shoes he’s the wrong guy. Most of them will just tell you exactly what you want to hear. I will bet when this guy gives his bids he comes as he was ready to work. Great job on the videos I can see your honesty when you speak.
That is so funny Sal! I come out in my 1999 F150 and my boots. I often wonder if my truck looks too old and I don't get the job because of it. Your comment has me thinking I'm spot on! LOL.
Funny you say that, I had 3 furnace/AC companies come out. House had a 1920s "Octopus" furnace, so adding ductwork and AC along with a new furnace, 2 companies went along with what I wanted no questions asked, 2rd guy came out in a suit told him what I wanted and where He said He wouldn't do that, explained why and then I found out he was the owner of the company and main engineer. Went with him and the system is perfect, quiet, cools better than specs, gas bill went down, electric bill only went up $20 a month vs having 1 room air conditioned. Funny thing the owner comes out and does work when his guys are too busy, suit and all, usually maintenance visits.
Amazing how easily that bobcat was able to break through that thick concrete, made it look so easy!
Yep! Gotta have the right equipment to get the job done.
Can you show us the concrete recycling plant? I think your content is brilliant.
Yes I've shown it a couple of times but I typically stay on the job instead of riding with the dump truck. It's just a huge pile of used concrete!
Great job Gary 👏
I feel for the homeowner, I hope she sues the ass off the original concrete guy! Good job Shawn and Harvey.
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Hate to see work done that way. I feel for your customer. Great job doing it the way it should have been done in the first place!
Thank you Rick!
You know when people are good at their jobs as they make it look easy, when it is far from.
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1st Ha!
Boom! 👍
yea but there no way you watched it you just made a comment first lol
@@matt08015 first is first 😜
I really appreciate your dedication to good results. Thanks Shawn
Thank you! thanks for watching!
Nice job, but where is the rebar and control joints?!
Rebar isn’t needed in our area and the concrete guys came back to cut in the joints 👍
Does your area have special concrete that doesn't crack? @@GCFD
How sad that the prior 'contractor' was so inept.
I feel really badly for the homeowner taking such a hit or trying to sue to become whole again. Such grief.
Damn that’s painful watching that new concrete get all jacked😢
Great pour and finish especially without the use of a screed.
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wow good video ,one thing that is huge is tamping down the base /gravel before the pour helps keep the driveway from cracking .
The homeowner said the original guy didn't have a plate compactor so she was happy we did.
no gravel, no wire, no rebar? wow. (but these are questions and not condemnation as I honestly don't know how things are done properly where you are)
We don't have bentonite or a frost line here and our subsoils are extremely stable.
Looks good. They don’t require Ballards around the gas meter there?
In Ca we have to protect them with ballards.
👍 This is NC lol
You take pride in your work
Nice 'obcat you've got 😁
I feel for Patti, I can't imagine the expense of having a driveway poured TWICE! Nice job getting it done right!
👍 I was wondering if anyone would notice the 'obcat!
Good work Shawn and Team-.
👍 Thank you!
I noticed the concrete guys did not install wire mesh into it? Where is the drainage going to now in the drive-way and back yard? Good job after the other concretor.
Yes we don't need rebar or mesh here. The drive is draining to the back like the old asphalt driveway did.
from the Netherlands thanks for the video Shawn
Thank you! 👍
Good job! A problem we residential-types have is FINDING operations like yours. I'm in the northeast and have had my home for 20 years. So far, 2 good contractors and many, many bad ones (including my driveway). Just about all of the "reviews" are loaded with fakes. What to do?
I'm sorry to hear that Matt. Find a realtor and ask them for a recommendation. I've found they know good contractors. Also, ask your good contractor fro a recommendation. I know lots of great contractors that I work with and trust. Word of mouth is great. So is placing your work on youtube!
No rebar?
Code down here in San Antonio is #3 rebar , 12" on center both length and width for driveways. 3500 psi concrete.
Wow! thanks for sharing! We don't need rebar here in this part of NC. We do find it sometimes during tear-outs.
@@GCFD Love that you take pride in the work you do. Wish yall were in SA...could've saved my folks the headaches of similar shoddy cement contractor dealings as did your customer in this video. 👍👍
You're a good man Shawn!! Great and awesome video! 👏👍👋
Thank you!
Well done, a real professional job.
Thank you!
Keep the uploads coming! I love this channel
More on the way Jimmy! Thank you for watching!
Think i would have added some reinforcing bar to stop cracking and expansion joints. It's going to crack with temperature differentials
We don't use rebar here because it doesn't get that cold and we don't have bentonite.
Great job.
Thank you!
That driveway was so thick it really needed rebar. lol
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Great work .
Thank you!
Sucks that the original contractor basically turned her driveway into a water funnel straight into her house. Thankfully you were able to correct the problem and educate others in the process. You wonder ow many other homes the original guy messed up before this one by doing similar work.
Luckily this homeowner can move forward with her renovation plans and she is much wiser on contractor choice now!
My dad always said never hire “Chuck with a Truck that saves you a buck”
Hahah good advice!
All the rebar wow lol. Asbestos tile and water in the duct work possibly the unit. Not to mention the crawl space
HI Brian - you missed the point of the video which was this house is on a slab with the driveway higher.
Awesome redo. Your concrete guy was smart not risking damage to newer concrete by driving truck over it. Yes it took longer but why take a chance on ruining the other recently poured concrete =) Also you only removed the amount of concrete to get the job done.
Thank you! We try to get things done 👍
Couldn't you just create a slope towards the house so it runs away from the house back onto the driveway ? or is it because the actual driveway would still pool water ?
Because it would still be higher than the house slab and could risk flooding the house again. If the joint ever leaked the house would flood again immediately... The only solution that was 100% was to tear it out, dig it down, and replace it. It was a heck of a waste...
No rebar required? Nice work guys!
Not in our area. No frost line and no bentonite.
Its called never getting someone to do anything on your house without reviews from friends or friends of friends because this nightmare can happen
Great advice!
Nice work. You and your crew are very professional!
Thank you!
No wire or rebar under that concrete, that would be a show stopper up near Wisconsin.
For sure Tim, or out in Colorado. We are lucky we don't have bentonite or a frost line here.
Is it a good or bad idea to have a slab driveway like this slope from both sides into the center and add a channel or french drain down the center to shed the water to the street or out the back of the property?
That's a great idea but you don't need a drain. The concrete will channel the water if you create a swale like you described. We use concrete in that way all the time.
Damn good job Shawn!!
Hi I have been involved in removing like this driveway and there is a in my opinion a better way the concrete that I would be removing was mainly inside a aircraft factory where dust and heavy vibration would have affected nearby machines.
Method used have a large self propelled concrete saw cut the concrete into say 4 feet squares fix a lifting eye in the centre use a forklift to lift the concrete squares so much quicker much less noise and very little dust and a lot less manpower. Regards
Thank you for the tip!
This is such a great video Shawn!
Watched the whole video and really was interesting
I'm glad you enjoyed it Josh! Thanks for watching and commenting!
The part about having extra concrete I dont believe too well because there would be a lump somewhere I think more than likely they didnt grade it out well
The concrete was 6 or 7" thick in places.
@@GCFD more of a grading issue though They didnt screed too bad just didnt pull grades I guess
What do you do? You take out all that concrete and do it right. That would likely not only flood the inside of the house but it would also wash away under the foundation and the whole house would sink on that side.
Agreed. This was the only solution that guarantees to protect the house.