At first glance, I thought I was going to be seeing vapour "serve writ" in a law court, lol. I really liked how you "walked through" the solution - made it very easy to grasp the concepts and execution - with entertaining dialogue, to boot! Anyways, this is a fun experiment - that starts with "a big f@#$in' funnel", as you so eloquently put 🤣- I like that it is not cheesy, as opposed to the ice-crusher method. Its a bit of a pity that the BMF solar radiators are mid/late game items, else this is a fun centerpiece to a survival game "living space" :) [Side point: You used a great many words to describe this: The SDB Hopper is "not airtight" in game terms] The outro ... 🤣🤣🤣
@@baronvonschnellenstein2811 I switched the large radiators out for three lines of pipe radiators, and it's still capable of over heating the system on basically full power.
Love this! Hey could you help me? Im trying to design a base and im new. I need breathable air pumped in, filtered and temperature controlled. But since the liquid update...i keep getting liquid in my pipes...what to do? 😮
@@jfgreen41 Probably because TH-cam is a flattered wasteland of barely categorized content competing with itself to inject crap into your eye holes for a millionth of a cent per view.
Nice Video... It would be cool to have a video on how you can filter all gases only with temperature and pressure. I build little system which filters the Mars atmosphere only with pressure and temperature into tanks for each gas. PS: You get oxygen with a condensation chamber with 400kpa and -168 celcius. For nitrogen i use a condensation chamber with 400kpa and -175 celcius. This will condensate oxygen and nitrogen in a liquid pipe. With the right pressure and temperature in the liquid pipe you will only get nitrogen gas from the liquid pipe and keep the oxygen liquid. You can also use a evaporation chamber for the liquid for more safety. CO2 is easy. I use -40 celcius with about 1500kpa. This will only condensate CO2.
I got a cooling issue on Europa, not heating 😄. When I try to cool down gases from the adv furnace my pipes burst by thom getting to cold and generating ice... can't for my life get around it...
Limit your number of exposed pipes and put a valve somewhere to isolate the main trunk from the outside air. Alternatively, build an airlock around your radiators so you can close the door to prevent over-cooling... or, put a condenser valve on your trunk line to drain any liquids away.
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist An airlock is an intresting idea. For now I have been mounting and unmounting an piperadiator manually, all other solutions have failed since ice formes in the pipes when disconnecting the cooling side with a valve. Tried single, loops, and integrate it with my wasteloop but all fail as the temperature drop. Even tried difrent gases and tried to mitigate it. Havent tested all gasses yet tho sins i play survival. But an airlock who closes with the valve to hinder the gases freeze i a nice idea, thanks!
That's a really handy tip about the walls, thanks. Embarrassed that this is still going over my head: I can't really understand how this is more efficient than the solar absorbers alone. Where is the "free" extra heat-separating energy/work coming from in this system? Wouldn't the radiators need to store energy into the solid refridgerant to melt it equally as much as the liquid refridgerant then releases as heat back up in the heating room? Is it something to do with the fact that gravity is doing work on the solids to move them away from the heating room, but we can ignore gravity on the way back up when we use the "free" movement through chutes and pipes in any direction, including upwards?
Mathematically, it shouldn't be more efficient, you should be absorbing and releasing the same amount of energy, unless there are some calculation errors in the game, which there could be, but I didn't look that closely... It's faster, because you are literally pumping the heat through the system. All a heat pump is, is a conveyor for thermal energy. The three radiators are a massive overkill, and did heat the melting building and the core to 124 degrees in about an hour a so, with just those, there would be no problem warming your base. The conveyor blocks and the fact you're dealing with a solid does eliminate the need for a pump because the conveyor blocks move mass for free, but what you're doing with the state change is a kind of amplification. As the fluid state changes, it absorbs or rejects more heat then it would be able to if it was in a steady state., but this only works passively, when the temperatures are very close to the fluid's triple point.
You also don't need the big buildings or the "core", I just built those so we could watch the process happen, all of this could take place in the pipes.
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Thanks for the reply! I think I need to go and learn more about heat pump efficiency IRL because I can't seem to settle on an intuition for this.
No script! OR CONCENTRATION! Plus... shinny!
"It's like the datong scene, but on the atomical level" 😂😂😂😂
You got me there
Brilliant explanation of science using Stationeers. Cheers mate.
Thanks man
At first glance, I thought I was going to be seeing vapour "serve writ" in a law court, lol.
I really liked how you "walked through" the solution - made it very easy to grasp the concepts and execution - with entertaining dialogue, to boot!
Anyways, this is a fun experiment - that starts with "a big f@#$in' funnel", as you so eloquently put 🤣- I like that it is not cheesy, as opposed to the ice-crusher method. Its a bit of a pity that the BMF solar radiators are mid/late game items, else this is a fun centerpiece to a survival game "living space" :)
[Side point: You used a great many words to describe this: The SDB Hopper is "not airtight" in game terms]
The outro ... 🤣🤣🤣
You can use tier 1 radiators, and actually, the large deploy-able radiators, are WAY too powerful, and saturate the system.
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist 👍 Sounds like something worth trying when I do a Europa save
@@baronvonschnellenstein2811 I switched the large radiators out for three lines of pipe radiators, and it's still capable of over heating the system on basically full power.
Love this! Hey could you help me? Im trying to design a base and im new. I need breathable air pumped in, filtered and temperature controlled. But since the liquid update...i keep getting liquid in my pipes...what to do? 😮
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How'd I miss that lol, thank you!!
@@jfgreen41 Probably because TH-cam is a flattered wasteland of barely categorized content competing with itself to inject crap into your eye holes for a millionth of a cent per view.
Nice Video...
It would be cool to have a video on how you can filter all gases only with temperature and pressure. I build little system which filters the Mars atmosphere only with pressure and temperature into tanks for each gas.
PS:
You get oxygen with a condensation chamber with 400kpa and -168 celcius.
For nitrogen i use a condensation chamber with 400kpa and -175 celcius. This will condensate oxygen and nitrogen in a liquid pipe. With the right pressure and temperature in the liquid pipe you will only get nitrogen gas from the liquid pipe and keep the oxygen liquid. You can also use a evaporation chamber for the liquid for more safety.
CO2 is easy. I use -40 celcius with about 1500kpa. This will only condensate CO2.
th-cam.com/video/qytGLiw-_ag/w-d-xo.html
I got a cooling issue on Europa, not heating 😄.
When I try to cool down gases from the adv furnace my pipes burst by thom getting to cold and generating ice... can't for my life get around it...
Limit your number of exposed pipes and put a valve somewhere to isolate the main trunk from the outside air. Alternatively, build an airlock around your radiators so you can close the door to prevent over-cooling... or, put a condenser valve on your trunk line to drain any liquids away.
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist An airlock is an intresting idea. For now I have been mounting and unmounting an piperadiator manually, all other solutions have failed since ice formes in the pipes when disconnecting the cooling side with a valve. Tried single, loops, and integrate it with my wasteloop but all fail as the temperature drop. Even tried difrent gases and tried to mitigate it. Havent tested all gasses yet tho sins i play survival.
But an airlock who closes with the valve to hinder the gases freeze i a nice idea, thanks!
@@matse9375 If you want, you can zip up your save, shove it on google drive, and I'll download it and do a video on fixing the problem
If you do though, make sure you're in a cryo-chamber or whatever the hell they replaced them with.
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Wow, its almost 3 am here now so I will try to do it tomorrow. 😄
how do you delete stuff with the authoring tool
Hold C
That's a really handy tip about the walls, thanks. Embarrassed that this is still going over my head: I can't really understand how this is more efficient than the solar absorbers alone. Where is the "free" extra heat-separating energy/work coming from in this system? Wouldn't the radiators need to store energy into the solid refridgerant to melt it equally as much as the liquid refridgerant then releases as heat back up in the heating room? Is it something to do with the fact that gravity is doing work on the solids to move them away from the heating room, but we can ignore gravity on the way back up when we use the "free" movement through chutes and pipes in any direction, including upwards?
Mathematically, it shouldn't be more efficient, you should be absorbing and releasing the same amount of energy, unless there are some calculation errors in the game, which there could be, but I didn't look that closely... It's faster, because you are literally pumping the heat through the system. All a heat pump is, is a conveyor for thermal energy. The three radiators are a massive overkill, and did heat the melting building and the core to 124 degrees in about an hour a so, with just those, there would be no problem warming your base. The conveyor blocks and the fact you're dealing with a solid does eliminate the need for a pump because the conveyor blocks move mass for free, but what you're doing with the state change is a kind of amplification. As the fluid state changes, it absorbs or rejects more heat then it would be able to if it was in a steady state., but this only works passively, when the temperatures are very close to the fluid's triple point.
You also don't need the big buildings or the "core", I just built those so we could watch the process happen, all of this could take place in the pipes.
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Thanks for the reply! I think I need to go and learn more about heat pump efficiency IRL because I can't seem to settle on an intuition for this.