What's INSIDE Thor's Cave??
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- Thor is a Viking god who was mainly worshipped in Scandinavia but also in Britain. There are sacred cult sites to Thor in the UK and the Norse god of thunder also shows up in some local folklore. This video looks at a couple of interesting examples from Derbyshire and Surrey.
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Have you done a video on the practice of votive offerings in water, as compared to myths such as the lady of the lake? I'm curious if the legends are a way to remember the ancient practices.
My phrasing sucks, but I'm a couple in already.
@@gcanaday1 I think a lot of Celtic, and maybe Germanic, swords are found in bogs, lakes and rivers. So it would seem the legends are founded in fact.
@@Gallowglasser yes
I once told a muslim that in our language no day of the week celebrates their god 'allah' but 4 days celebrate our gods. In any country that speaks English our gods are mentioned every week. Not bad 'ey.
@@gazthejaz8910 Do some research Gaz.
@@gazthejaz8910 Thursday- Thors day Wednesday-Odins day Sunday- Sol day Monday- Mani's day Tuesday- Tyr god of war Friday- Freyas day.
@@Ravenz-ux7pb Romans got Saturday for Saturn but 6/7 ain't shabby
@@jakepatterson2659 and on swedish even the saturday is lördag ("laundryday")😊
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When it comes to learning about history told correctly from our viewpoint I trust this guy more than anyone else on the Internet I’m very thankful for all your hard work brother thank you
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@@maleexile9053 like stick-man
ALWAYS DYOR, men are fallible and to blindly accept his or anyone’s views as fact is an open invitation to accept misinformation & propaganda.
That being said, so far (3+yrs) I have no found reasons to believe he deceives, I have some different interpretations than him on only a handful of things but I can easily see why he believes what he believes even when we disagree, nevertheless always DYOR!
Brother! 😅😅😅. Did you know the father of Thor is Memnon, the Ethiopian?! 😅😅😅
Asha logos is less biased, but this guy does more content
It reminds me of the Myth where Thor's hammer was stolen by a Giant and hidden deep inside the Earth.
Perhaps this "Hob's Hurst", was the Hillock / Hill /Mound that Thor's hammer was hidden under, and the Hobs were the ones who put it there!
If I were a giant looking for a place to hide the Hammer of the Gods, a hidden cave occupied by Hobs with an obsession for collecting stone axes would be an excellent choice!
Wonderful video :^)
I'll be enjoying this with a cup of tea after work, cheers Tom.
It's a small thing, but i'm glad to see someone show the Frisians too when talking about the Anglo-Saxons, i see them getting excluded way too many times for no reason.
The Jutes also are hardly mentioned nowadays !
It's weird that they're just called "Anglo-Saxons" as they are only 2 out of 4 large groups that emigrated, sure they are probably the biggest and most influential majority, but still
I love hearing about any of the tribes we are from.
Ingvaeonic tribes is a better description than Anglo-Saxon as it includes Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Frisians and Hwicce the 5 main tribes that Migrated to England, there are theories that The Angles and the Frisians were the largest tribes rather than the Saxons judging by the language similarities between the English and Flemish
@@harley7356 You’re 100% correct. If only it wasn’t as hard to pronounce.
My favourite kind of STJ videos. Shorter, about British folk lore and features on site footage with lovely shots.
I've been to Thor's cave, I was camping in the area. It's a mystical place, I felt like I was being watched, no doubt it is certainly a sanctuary not only to Þunor, but to those who would seek shelter during a storm.
Same with Illyrian or what they call Slavic tribes today.
Norse have Thor we have Perun.
Same deity same powers and myths.
Brother folk.
the illyrians were not slavic, nor will they ever be slavic
The Illyrians and Slavs originate from opposite ends of the continent! Illyria in Roman records is mentioned as early as the 1st century BCE while the South Slavs invaded Southeast Europe in the 500s and 600s CE during Byzantine times.
Illyria spans todays Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro, Bosnia, western Greece and western North Macedonia. Colloquially, the Albanians are most commonly associated with Illyrians (occupying much of the same space), and the only Slavs who tend to be associated with the Illyrians are Bosniaks and to an extent Montenegrins and Bosnian Croats.
While the western reach of Illyria has varied between age and source, the one geography that's consistently been known as Illyria are Albania and its neighboring border regions.
Slavs _overall_ have nothing to do with Illyrians, not the West Slavs and East Slavs who never even made contact with them, and not most South Slavs (Bulgarians, North Macedonians, Serbs, Slovenes) who came in centuries later and never conquered the Illyrian heartland.
I live at the Northern edge of North Yorkshire, in a place called Cleveland, there's a Hill here called Roseberry Topping, originally Odinsberg. Not Thor, but I think there's a lot more Viking and Germanic heritage here than people think.
Roesberry Topping is awesome for such a small hill. Along with spots like Lord Stones and Mount Grace it gives the Moors an amazing spiritual charge.
As a southerner who moved to Northern North Yorkshire it was quite striking how much Norse influence there seemed to be in place names, surnames and even the dialect until fairly recently.
At first I thought you were going to say Cleveland america 😂 it’s better it’s the old Cleveland or better Cleveland lol. I live in Worcester but not old Worcester.
love you videos- never stop brother!
Another banger from our boy Tommy!
what I like about this channel most is it has facts presented in an interesting way with positive views on our ancestral religions without present day politics
Makes sense these Vikings would leave the stone axes out of reverence.
This was super interesting, the Devil's Jumps are also often associated with the legend of Mother Ludlum the white witch and her cauldron which can still be found nearby in Frensham church - I haven't heard the association with Thor before though. Thanks for this video, great stuff!
Nice to see you here Anna!
Awsome channel Anna has you guys should check it out !
I appreciate all of the beliefs and religions of our past. However I follow Dyēus (our Sky Father) and Britannia (our Earth Mother) before any other.
I always knew you were based Anna!
Perkele, the name for Thor in Finnish has sadly devolved into a curse word along the lines of 'damn it!'.
It still retains power when delivered by an irate Finn, it's just a shame it only carries negative connotations now amongst the masses.
I prefer to see it as a word to banish vexations as they occur
There's nothing wrong with invoking the gods' names in moments of passion, by Toutatis!
(Jesus Christ!/Oh God!/Gods alive!/by God!/in God's name/OMG! etc.)
Well to be fair….it’s quite fitting “to damn/condemn” something by invoking the name of a somewhat wrathful deity, so perhaps there is causality there.
@@Fuk99999 I wish it were that way, but from what I can acertain the name has become a swear word and associated with evil
"Perkele" comes from the lituanian word "Perkunas ".
He was the thunder god for the baltic peoples.
I've honestly seen it used more as a word of empowerment during frustration. Knowing the "sisu" mentality of Finns, it makes sense one would curse that way to aid in determination. Just my perspective
I live near the devils punch bowl so it’s nice to hear a bit of history about it 👍
I never realized the cave in the film Lair of the White Worm, was actually Thor's Cave. I found that out while looking into the film's location. Pretty odd film but entertaining. It's obviously just a ridiculous caricature of pre Roman paganism however I still enjoy watching it for it's atmosphere.
weird to think ken russel made that
Now I can't get a barely clad Amanda Donohoe out of my head....
@@adventussaxonum448 and that phallic artifact......
@@your_belief_vs_everything 😄
Just watched that in its entirety for the first time last week. Excellent for what it is, wish the director had made more.
I’m Christian but I love your videos. You present information that can be pretty hard to find very concisely. Please keep it up 👍👍
Wow. I used to go to Thor’s Cave all the time when I was a kid as my grandparents had a house nearby. And when I was 10 I went on an amazing school camping trip to The Devil’s Punchbowl. I had this whole video covered in my childhood! For my money, Thor’s Cave is named after Thor (but that’s just because that’s what i was told as a kid - probably not the most robust form of evidence 😂).
Off to watch on telegram!! Thanks for the heads up.
Once again Mr. Roswell, you intrigue us with your knowledge. Thank you for all of your hard work
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Brilliant to see thors cave mentioned, been there so many times
Your content is absolutely top notch my friend. As a devout Germanic Pagan, I can confirm that you sir are extremely accurate and well versed in the history, legends and local folklore. I greatly appreciate your videos and I'm a huge fan. ⚒️
The fact that Thursday is named after him alone shows his enduring influence on British culture.
Would be amazing to see you making a video on the sapmi if you ever have the chance/motivation ofc.
i believe the cave was named after thor. if the temple space includes deceased major enemies of thor to tell of his great heroic deeds, that would still make sense
Great video as always. I always enjoy learning about the religion of my ancestors, and no channel teaches me more than yours.
Love it. There's so many remnants of ancient myths in Europe I did not know about. Very cool.
"it was a Hobhurst-hole and that meant comfort."
Hail
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the educational videos. It is nice to see the traces of the divine that have remained in our secular world.
Sorry for bad english.
Good to see your work again.
Great video, and thank you for what you do.
Prasanna here. i am from Sri Lanka and, i am curious about Norse, Saxon, Germanic, and Celtic mythology. what i want to specify is, that, the name Thor from Norse, was formed as Thunor in old English while i recently happened to listen to a pagan music from Dutch band called 'Heidevolk' in which Thor was identified as 'Donar'.
So this reminds me of Donar.
I havent noticed it until now but i misses these shorter vids of yours
I grew up near Thurstaston Hills on the Wirral, there's a large sandstone hill called Thor's rock, rumored to be of significance during the Viking occupation of the peninsular. Thomas, have you heard of this place, and what do you think of it's importance?
Many thanks.
Was going post a comment on *Thor's stone* as I know the Wirral . Also there is the nearby proposed site of the battle of Brunanburh . and Frankby (settlement of the 'Franks') ,Wallasey ( Welsh place) all within easy reach of Chester . England's history is all there for anyone who cares to look.
I have heard of it but not looked properly at the provenance of the name. tor or Thor
@@Survivethejive Thank you for the reply Thomas, I believe that it does refer to Thor and not the other name for a hill (tor). The wirral peninsula is heavily steeped in Viking history.
I get the impression' etymologically.. law
I've heard of Thor's Stone, I was always told that it was believed to be the head of Mjölnir (though I'm not sure how much of that is speculation)
Wonderful part of the world the Peaks
Fantastic. You just keep getting better
Another fascinating video, keep it up Jive😊
Great video and very well done
There is a mountain called Sliabh Thur in North West Ireland. Some times written as Thor. The folklore says it was associated with the Norse God with an Idol called Thor being worshipped there. There are a lot of Neolithic standing stones, propped stones and equinox alignments there also.
Great video as always Tom! Also highly enjoy your Telegram! Hope you get more people from your TH-cam audience to follow you there 🤲
Thank you for your efforts, your videos alone give a great insight into a subject that humanities class in school shamefully missed out..
Im very intelligent so I can solve this question of yours. Its named after the giants because.. its big and they dont fit in a small cave.
Great video, awesome effort. Much appreciated sir
So nice of you
Great video as always ..!
The cave's name may be older than AngloSaxon. Tarannis is a roughly equivalent Keltic god. Wheel-God, lightening, war and agriculture.
There is a tale of Thor standing on Clent Hills (Worcester) and throwing a large rock at Woden. Woden avoided the stone and it embedded itself in Rowley Hill.
I hadn't heard of that
“Screw you dad, I’ll make the greatest cult ever”
Didn't get a notification for this at all. Great as always!
Love your work
Where I live in Central Italy some places have almost identical legends but with saints instead of Thor: a saint had a fight with a demon or the Devil himself and at the end he threw the demon to the ground creating ravines and soil depressions.
About the places names: it is also possible that some of them were named after a personal name Thor (it was also a man's name).
Thursley predates the viking age and no Anglo-Saxons used thor or thunor as a man's name.
@@Survivethejive Understood
I believe the pagan Slavic tribes had Perun which was Thors equivalent that wielded an axe
Fantastic. Thank you. Made my day. Hobgobblins! Mind blown!
have you ever made a video on the nine herbs charm and maxims tom? to my mind they at least reveal an awareness among anglo-saxon christians of the old religion and perhaps enduring pagan beliefs well into the conversion. highly based video as always
I talk about it in From Runes to Ruins and also in the Woden section of the Anglo-Saxon pagan gods documentary
THORs Cave is Worth a visit the Peak District National Park is a Beautiful Place in the English 🏴 Countryside!
You point out an important distinction: It speaks to the English impulsion-being away from the moral order of the church of Rome-to make our own judgement about the moral value of a pagan figure. You see this tendency in the composition of Beowulf and in Robin Hood. Both are figures which Puritans would have iconoclasted as evil.
Western European individualism. “I trust my eyes more than your words”
That sort of thing
Oh look its the guy
4:36 I enjoy the vaguely Mosleyan accent.
Great vid!
Fascinating stuff.
If there's also a connection to hob... seems like potentially thyrsar instead of thor? Hobgoblins could go together with monsters more easily than with thundergods.
Also cool video!
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Visited Thor’s cave and Hobs Hurst house last year, amazing places!
I love how the "Devil's Punchbowl" legend combines pagan Scandinavian lore with the Christian "Devil", which reminds me of a lot of the stories of Hans Christian Andersen like "The Marsh King's Daughter", "The Girl Who Trod on a Loaf", and many more.
Great video very interesting definitely puts us back in touch with our ancestors. and I loved the creepy hobgoblin too. There is a river in South Wales called the river Thaw i have always wondered if it had a connection to the Norse god too.
I lived on The Wirral for a while and there's a town called Thurstaton which apparently means Thor's Stone Town or something or that variety.
most interesting program
Good stuff, you should do a video on the picts
Thanks!
For this video and all the work you to do promote truthful, historical information about the old ways and times. Thank you, Tom!
i need to visit some of these places!
Very interesting
Hey Tom. Any plans for a video about the ancient Goths? love your content mate
couple of videos about goths already
Regarding the origin of the Devil's Punch Bowl, I am reminded of one particular story from Norse Mythology:
Thor and Loki had gone on a trip to Jotunheim, and along the way they picked up a boy and his sister and met a giant. The giant had a sack of food and said that if Thor could open it, then they could have what was inside. So the giant went to sleep, and Thor tried to open the sack, except he could not no matter how hard he tried. Furious, Thor took Mjolnir and smashed the giant's head-except the giant only woke up and made commentary that insulted Thor. The giant went back to sleep, and Thor tried again, with similar results to the first time. Eventually, he gave up, and the group fell asleep.
Fast forward a bit, and the four reached Utgard, where Thor's aide, Loki, and Thor were beaten in various tasks by the members of Utgard-Loki's court. But as Thor and his companions were leaving, Utgard-Loki revealed that he had basically rigged it all: he was the giant they had met on the way to Utgard, and had not only tied a wire around the sack to keep it from being opened, but Thor's hammer had created three valleys with Mjonir. Likewise, the matchups in Utgard had been Loki vs. literal fire, Thor's servant vs. Utgard-Loki's personified thoughts, Thor vs. personified Old Age, and Thor drank from a horn that was attached to the Sea and tried to lift the Midgard Serpent in the form of a cat.
If I am forgetting details, sorry, it has been a long time since I looked at that story.
Naw man, that was very good for comment section telling from memory.
@@lionhartd138 Thanks.
If that's not the Mrs rolling round on the forest floor you've some explaining to do 😁 Excellent videos fella!!
Stock footage
7:50 Wish I could tell what brand of Wellies those are. Love ❤️ ur channel, Mr. Rowsell!
barbour!
As someone named for him may freys blessing be on u bro
I always wondered if the 9 realms cam be identified with real places on Earth. For example Midgard is the Denmark and Southern Scandinavia peninsula. Jotunheim can be the mountains of Norway/Sweden, The Prose Edda mentions jotunheim being north of svithjod(sweden).
Hail Thor the protector of Midgard. Good video Thomas.
Very interesting. I've visited Thor's Cave a number of times. Very unique place. Did wonder what the story behind the name was.
I'm not asking anyone to believe my words but I have discovered through having a calling as a shaman being the re-incarnation of sitting bull I am also the re-incarnation of Thor ,the cave was named after Thor not his enemy x
I so want one of those Yamnaya berserker shirts
Also, I’m scoring a STJ Hoodie payday.
4:32 The lovely Mrs Rowsell I presume?
Hello, I was wondering is it possible to ask if you can or have plans to do a video about Norway, if not do you by chance know of any possible armor, arms(weapons), and clothing that was present in Norway during the same time period as Vendal period Sweden since in a sense the two countries were next to each other it seems as if there a blank spot in Norwegian during this certain period in Scandinavian history.
Odin be praised
Bugmen: This is Click-bait! I thought it was going to the new Marvel film where Thor goes to London to save the power crystal from the evil Dr. Spock at MI5! REEEEEEEE!
I mean....this is Almost the plot of Thor: the Dark World 😁👍
What's that lovely ambient track that starts around 5:15 and continues for the rest of the video?
his enemies, the jives
Duryodhan's (Antagonist from Mahabharata) weakness was his thighs just like how Achilles' weakness were his hill.
This is a similarity in two Indo-European cultures I came to know about today.
You should look into it
Where is the footage of the old elf from
I think, the cave, was Thor's...laura
We are closer to each other than we think
Interesting video about this, had no idea Thor was a big deal in the UK.
STJ's wife makes a spritely appearance also?
There's a place in Oregon called devil's punchbowl too. Thought it was a pretty unique name till I watched this video ha. The new world be always taking from the old world
4:03 Does anybody know name of this lovely tune ?
There is a buddhist story of the devil offering to turn a mountain into gold for the Buddha if he worships the devil.
The Buddha replies that all the Himalayas turned into gold would not be enough.
Devil exist in christianity, not buddhism.
@@sanjaychhetri5399 In Buddhism he is called Mara and he has 3 daughters. He is more a metaphor than an actual being.
@@cptsuperstraight6924 (1) Okay, mara is more a metaphor than a actual being.
(2) mara is not a devil.
(3) stop, mixing Mara with devil and claiming they are same.
(4) they are not same, there origin are different.
We have a village called Thundersley in Essex and thrors hammer was supposedly stuck in one of the graves personally I thought it looked more like a plaque than a hammer
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