She isn't a bad person but she was incredibley ruthless to Chase. Having someone marry you and tell you he loves you for, like, a million times and then says they don't know if they ever truly loved you... I would've felt incredibly heartbroken.
Yeah - it's like loving one person but getting married someone else just to prove you're able to have a 'healthy' relationship. I mean Chase isn't the only heartbroken here... :(
Im a huge fan of Chase but come on guys Chase also loved more House than he loved Cameron. He knew Cameron would see completely wrong that some would kill Dibala and not feeling guilty or some regrets of doing so and Chase said it he didn’t regret Killing Dibala meaning he wanted House not Cameron. Chase didn’t love her as much he claimed maybe he did a little more for their relationship but at the end both loved the same men : House and that’s what broke them apart.
She wouldn’t have said that if he didn’t keep pressuring her he wanted her to say that because he wanted her to admit it to herself so he and her could move on
This is what happens when you give your all to someone who isn't really all for you. Cameron showed him a lot of red flags up to and during the marriage e.g. didn't want to make the relationship more than sex, called off the vacation, wanted to keep her dead husband's sperm etc. She was never really 100% for him. But he was for her. Chase deserved better.
Lol she just thought she could fix him because they wanna better their man when it’s just an ego trip. Hell she killed someone way before chase did and she’s really giving him shit for it? What a hypocrite and textbook narcissist
@@Silux_Ray That was a euthanization for a dying man who outright stated that's what he wanted. A little different than Chase purposely sabotaging treatment that would have made the dictator better. The man she killed was already running on fumes.
The writers are just brilliant: having her say yes would've potentially got them back together, so their ending story arcs wouldn't have been as good; having her say no would've maked her look like a terrible person who only used him. By saying "i don't know" she reinforces what House told her all those years ago, she needs a project, someone to fix, and she never got that with Chase. I fucking love this show
Yes. This was the rich, complexity to the show. Cameron always suffered from the rescuer syndrome. Part of what made her choose to become a doctor. Cameron needs to feel like she's saving someone, or at the very least reducing their pain in the face of the inevitable. And yet, she was too hesitant to make the really tough choices until (Informed Consent) where Cameron took an active role in assisted suicide (technically probably 2nd degree homicide). But what Chase did was far more active, deliberate, and morally problematic. Still, from a needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few or the one perspective, what Chase did appeared almost necessary, especially after Dibala practically threatened Cameron and pretty much said he was going to stomp out the "cockroaches" which was his derisive for Sitibi people. Chase's turning point came when he spoke with one of Dibala's former youth recruits who admitted to the horiffic things that Dibala's faction made him and others like him do to the Sitibi women. Chase realized when Dibala demeaned and derogated Cameron that he was exactly what Dibala's would be assassin had described. After doing it, Chase was wracked with immense guilt. Not so much for having done what he did, as Chase came to the conclusion that his actions were necessary and warranted, but because he hid this huge secret and aspect of himself from Cameron. It was as if Chase hid who he truly was from Cameron. Upon his confession to Cameron, Cameron decided that she and Chase needed to break cleanly away from Princeton-Plainsboro Hospital and House. Chase realized later that he didn't want that. He knew who and what he was. Cameron did NOT like that Chase was no longer pliable to her influence. She no longer had a "project" in Chase to work on. Cameron's sense of worth is when she can save, rescue, fix someone else. In that way, she's very much like House, but she's House with emotional sensitivity, compassion, and patience.
This just goes to show that Chase is the next house. Other than his progressive diagnostician skills improving, his ideas on how to psychoanalyze people was further getting sharpened
@@ayanjit9196 And how both of them almost becore disabled from an infart (House on the leg and Chase in the heart after getting stabbed) and had to do physical therapy to be able to walk again.
She's not saying he can't ask that question, she's shocked that he would even consider the thought of her not loving him. Funny how she was wrong though.
".. He was dying when you met him, and he was gone just a year into the marriage. So it was all honeymoon with him, now I could never match up to that." Damn. Chase's character would not have come up with this idea just after that unofficial breakup. I think he always had this thought since the beginning. Fuck, that hurts.
I think, after Cameron's behavior in their relationship, Chase was 100% validated in asking a question like that. How incredibly heartbreaking to hear the person you love say that. He really deserved better. Chase is presented as this ladies' man but actually treats the people he's dating with tons of respect and love. He's a good guy and I wish he didn't have to go through this.
Chase badgered Cameron until he finally got her to tell the truth. I like how he immediately calmed down, as if to say "see, actually saying that wasn't that hard."
Chases character development is the best in the entire show. Its like watching a boy not just become a man, but an excellent man and leader. I love when foreman is upset to lose him as an asset end series, but proud of him stepping into his full potential. Little known fact, albiet chase was in most the episodes, he solved the most cases of houses underlings.
Cameron was always a coward. She always pursued relationships that were doomed from the beginning, like her first husband or House. And when she was staring down the barrel of working through the issues of a more or less "normal" relationship, she ran from it and blamed House for "ruining Chase." Additionally, I've got to say the whole Dibala thing gave me a new respect for Chase. I don't know if what he did was truly right or wrong, but he made an incredibly difficult choice based on his personal convictions, living forever with the consequences of knowing he willingly took a man's life in the hope that it would save many others. I never really liked Chase before that, but it gave me a new respect for his character. Meanwhile, Cameron was perfectly content to hem and haw from the sidelines, condemning the man and agonizing over the knowledge they were saving him (even suggesting they let him die after someone tries to assassinate him) but turning away in horror at the prospect of actually taking the onus upon herself to live up to her so-called convictions. Her craven hypocrisy truly was loathsome...
Back in the first episode, House tells her that she is damaged, somehow, in some way, or she would have used her looks to succeed in some field requiring much less effort. Her arc is the reverse of Amber's. I started out liking Cameron, then moving to dislike, although I wouldn't give completely up on her. I started out disliking Amber, but was really sad to see her go just when she seemed to be moving past her demons.
@@mikespangler98 for me i dont like the sappy type in shows, sometimes in real life too, as they dont make rational decisions consistently. so in short i never liked her character and it just made me dislike her more so
Yeah there are a few episode I don't like to watch thanks to her, like the one where they treat a patient who don't want to leave his house (not the doctor). I hated her in that episode.
I agree. Cameron was a terrible person. I hate how everyone in the show acts like she was some sort of angel. She wasn’t. She was manipulative, selfish, a coward, cruel, self-centered, and full of “oh poor me, give me pity” whenever the tiniest consequences of her own actions came around.
"Don't bring him up!" Cameron always does that, whenever someone brings up her dead husband. She acts like it's because people are being disrespectful by bringing him up, but the truth is she does her best to avoid thinking about how much his death has screwed up her ability to have healthy relationships. She only wants to think about how she did something saintly by marrying him and not recognize that it's had a lasting negative impact on her.
And she didn't even love him! She felt pity because he was dying and she loved his best friend but by the time they were both single it was disgusting to both of them.
@@Mourtzouphlos240 Very true. She only was willing to marry him because she knew it wouldn't be long-term. And when she decided not to get with the best friend she was able to tell herself she was being a saint again, by resisting "cheating" on her husband. But it was really another excuse for her to avoid commitment.
Ofc she’s doing her best to avoid him, her husband is dead, and she never was really inlove with him either bc she said she was inlove with his bestfriend
The saddest part about this was this reflected Jesse and Jennifer's real life relationship to some degree. I wonder if Hugh did this knowing it would bring up these emotions.
that would be quite sadistic actually, i don't think they would have accepted the script if it was intentional. in fact, i am impressed they did in the first place
In fairness, after the broke up David Shore said that making them go through a wedding scene would be cruel and he did exactly that. So I could see him trying to take advantage of the situation like this.
I think she loved him, but she was never in love with him. That scene hits right in the heart. We’ve all been Cameron at one point of our lives and we’ve all been Chase at another. Don’t really know which one hurts more: to not love someone 100% or to not be loved 100%...it’s all just so hard and the people that managed to find their 100% while giving 100% are SO LUCKY.
@@sunwillriseagain6202 True, but a lot of people are like that, and are just as oblivious to it as Cameron it. It sucks, and should be dealt with, but its pretty normal.
Damn it's like you just shot me with a shotgun in my chest with what you wrote. I recently had to experience this situation and sadly i think i was the Chase in the relationship... it sucks so much
Every line, delivery, movement, and acting is just incredibly spectacular. *WOW.* The word "Powerful" just doesn't cut it for how these 2 did in this scene ❤ Left us all speechless
This clip is incomplete, because after a while she says “I don’t know why I said that, I did love you”. I really like how she owned up to being the “unfixable” one. It’s so well written! Her character in particular… so well written!
But actually it wasn't right from his side to tell her about this. She knew it, he knew it but it wasn't good to remind her about it coz this is the thing that always really hurts her
Chase isn't a saint. I really don't understand why people baby him (don't mistake me here, he's my FAVORITE character). He was relentless with Cameron, constantly going after her, refusing to take no for an answer when their relationship started, constantly bugging her about moving slowly throughout their relationship. I believe she truly loved him (and she tells him this in this episode, taking back her original statement of not knowing). Cameron is JUST as broken as Chase, and Chase deserves just as much backlash for HIS actions. Those that involve Cameron and those that don't. I think they're both truly good people that never intended to hurt each other. They were just too screwed up.
@@paulawallaby5153 Chase deserves backlash for what??? What did he do wrong to Cameron??? He loved her and tried his best to make her fall in love with him... She should have stuck with NO as an answer...
DO they even know what true genuine love is or are they too caught up / more concerned with selfies and posting carefully curated images of themselves to project an unrealistic portrayal of their lives?
I love how they left a lot of Cameron's family and past as ambiguous, aside from her first marriage. We never met her parents, and House probed with some basic childhood questions very early in the series (that we still don't know if she responded truthfully or not), but other than that.... all we know is that Cameron is pretty darn screwed up. I wasn't the biggest fan of Chase, but she definitely strung him along, knowing that she wasn't invested into their relationship, knowing that she didn't, or couldn't, feel anything real or deep, and it wasn't just because of her dead husband... there had to be something more. I'm glad that they didn't give these two a ride-me-off-into-the-sunset ending just to pander to the audience. It gave such a visceral feeling of relatable instability.
A great example of how there aren’t exactly toxic people, per say, but there ARE toxic relationships. Neither Chase nor Cameron are “toxic” but when put together … well … this happens …
1:10 Chase take a deep gasp, swallows it and looks at Cameron with the stone look House has and delivers his final words to her in House’s cold sullen tone forever becoming him.
If she isn't into you, she will never be. Cameron couldn't have made it any clearer. It was obvious that she could never truly give Chase what he wanted, the complete package. But he kept chasing her. Maybe that's why the writers named him 'Chase'.
@@cybercriminal3110 No she didn't. Saying "How could you ask that?" isn't an answer. She never said yes. She didn't answer until she finally said "I don't know."
@@master11050 If someone came up to you and asked you "are you human?" your first natural response also wouldn't be "yes". When you love somebody and fcking married that person you don't expect a genuine question about that
the breakdown of chase and cameron's marriage really changed my view of cameron. first of all, i never understood her not being able to let the dibola situation go: it was ~her~ who first suggested it. but i could understand where was coming from sort of. this scene, though: say what you want about chase (and i never got the hate for him), but he really really loved cameron. the fact that she would go through with a marriage, continue to be married to him and then ~act like the breakdown of the marriage was his fault~ when she was never even sure she loved him said only bad things about her character.
It is also worth remembering that she had already practiced euthanasia in a patient who was a physician after learning that he used babies as guinea pigs for experiments in cancer treatment. Okay, he did a horrible thing, but it was SHE who did the condemnation. This is not very different from the Dibala case, so it makes no sense to think that Chase is a monster, or that it has been corrupted. (sorry for my bad english)
@@elvisoliveedits Honestly I don't even remember this.... But the truth is that writers had to write her character off and it was done hastilly and it damaged her character. It was a poor exit for her.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Cameron was an amazing character, honestly the best written female character on House. It was *because* she was complicated, good, bad, hypocritical, and struggling to be the moral guiding light (which is a role women often get). Cameron got storylines that, at the time, (supporting) female characters just didn't get. She was messy, a bit selfish, not consistent *like all people are*. I stopped watching after season 3 when they relegated her story to the sidelines (and because it was such a big change to avoid the dreaded season 4 doom that all series f'd up then) bc they did her story and character dirty. They couldn't let her go completely so they just watered down her character. (also, forever disappointed that they brought back Foreman and Chase but didn't bring back Cameron... because apparently there's a max of one woman in the team -.-)
@@rebeccas2813 There were more women in the team in later series, and at one point there were more women than men. I think the actor who played Cameron probably wanted to do other things so they had to write a story for her to leave and only visit occasionally.
the strange thing is that when the series started I liked cameron and did not like chase. in season 2 I didn't like the foreman. But after she accused Wilson of handing House over to the cop, I started to see her as a badly loved one. She liked House and defended everything he did, if Foreman or Chase complained about being slapped by a dealer, she hated it. But as soon as she lost her "interest" in House, she started to say that he was a sociopath. Which may be true, but it was hypocritical, she accused everyone that she did not understand House, wilson, cody and then wanted to blame everything bad on it. She used Chase, and wanted to come out as the victim, despite Chase's mistake being horrible. She asked him to choose to stay away from House, change jobs, go to another city, and he didn't even admit that he loved him. She was my favorite character, but in the end even from Foreman I started to like it more. That he at least evolved, it just got worse. And it came out in such a ridiculous way. translated on google translator. sorry about the mistakes.
Wilson handing House to the cops wasn't a bad decision, but in the end it didn't change anything so she was right. She loved the sociopath in House, she always knew it, that was the exact reason she was into him. How did she use Chase? She avoided starting relationships with him, but he insisted and she gave it a try. She loved him, and wanted to start a new life for his own sake - to let go the dibala situation. Meanwhile he tried to control her all the time out of jealousy.
Cameron is OG and I will always love her. Also, why are you pitting Cameron against Thirteen? Is it because they're both women? You can like both. Sexism is alive and well I see
I still want Cameron backstory. I still wonder about her past before her first husband passed away if her past affected her decisions on love and caring for others.
It took so much to get it out of her. Ridiculous. The truth may hurt, but its better it comes out sooner rather than later. Getting strung along for a long time makes the pain more unbearable if it ends up unraveling much later... There's real people who need to stop doing this.
Brandon King Honestly, I don’t think Cameron knew the answer herself. She wants to believe that she loved him. She wants to believe she’s capable of that but at the end of the day there’s plenty of room for reasonable doubt and as he poked holes in every argument she told herself, she had no choice but to admit to herself and to him that as much as she wants to believe it, it might not be true.
Man the way she and chase interacted made me consistently like her less and less. I found how she treated him so off and ingenuine. I guess this scene proved that kind of action was intentional. Great actress for being able to portray that
Cameron is the broken and twisted one, not Chase or House. She kept blaming everyone else but truth is that she is so messed up and she is the one who needs fixing
I don't think she loved either one of them. I think she viewed all of the men she supposedly, "loved," as projects or men she could change. She never actually loved them for them.
@@Chocobear555 No, she didn't. That's what House told us and the perspective we're told to view her character from. House is great at reading people's intentions and who they are, but he was often wrong about Cameron. So when House told us in season 1 that Cameron wants to fix people, she doesn't love them, that's the angle we're going to look at her at for a while. What do I think? I think Cameron is damaged herself, and since she tells us very little about her past we know very little about her, and looks for other people who are damaged, and for people who challenge her. House did that, as did Chase. They challenged her and forced her to grow in different ways, while also understanding what it is like to not be whole. The problem with analyzing Cameron's character is that she is a character that is shown on a very "surface level", only through how other people perceive her. I.e House saying she craves fixing people, the general storyline that she is emotional, can't stand up for herself, and her general struggle with morality. Beyond what the people around her says about her, or perceives her, we're not privy to much about her character. Just look at her sparse wiki page where it basically just says that her parents are alive, she grew up in the midwest, has a brother, pointed out an error her professor missed on a test in college, that she interned at mayo, might've been arrested at one point, married a person she knew had cancer, fell for his friend, and became a widow at an early age. That's it. Saying with absolutes that she never actually loved them for them is just us as viewers believing House whole heartedly on his presumption of her. House is often wrong about people. While the series is about how astute he is and that he is often right, it's also about what he's wrong about, and how dangerous it is to fall for misanthropic ideas about other people. House is a cautionary tale, not a person to look up to or believe 100% of what comes out of his mouth.
Cameron has also narcissistic traits. When it's convenient for her, she loves him; when not, she doesn't know. It surprised me she managed to get married and be a mother at the finale. Who knows how that worked.
Personally, I like Cameron more when she had crush on House and Only House.. She getting of with Chase couldnt worked cuz she loved House.. Its the same thing like when you break up and still have fellings, u moved on but still there u got piece of you that loves that person... I think they should instead of this get House-Cameron couple... It would be diffrent and not common, and unlike Cuddy she loved him as his grumpy him, "normal" him.. Cuddy dumped him right after he took one pill so thats their love.. Also it would have been intersting if Chase dated Cuddy or Wilson Dated Cuddy like it seem crazy that way but David Shore would make that work.. I dont see often in shows Old/young and Young/old.. Usually its Young/Young Old/Only.. But C'est la Vie..
Frankly Chase just grew up and Cameron couldn't move on. One of her major emotional issues really, she doesn't mourn or deal almost at all. Just buries.
@@cybercriminal3110 she’s also the one who killed a man first and then tried to pretend she’s mother Teresa and give shit to shit for doing something similar. But hey man bad women good
I'm only one season 1 and chase has gotta be my fav. Cameron is so far probably my least fav and I know I'm spoiling the show for myself by watching this but it just breaks my heart :/ chase deserves better
@@cybercriminal3110 no chase was wrong for trying to love someone who he knew didn’t. Cameron was wrong for leading him on when he’s only the rebound guy. And you’re wrong because you’re a simp
I've had struggles liking Cameron's character from the get go. She just comes so insencere trying to act righteous all the time when she slept with co-worker, hit on the boss multiple times, and even commited euthanasia. But it's okay when she does it, right.
The entire old crew had some problems. But only cameron tried to be someone righteous which was annoying since her personal life painted her in the opposite life being super irresponsible. All in all a great character for house to play with. Since thats what the show is mostly about.
Did you miss the part where that patient she killed was begging them to let him die? Besides, Cameron forgave Chase. But he wanted to live with that, and she couldn't.
They all always call everyone by their last name (well, apart from thirteen, for obvious reasons), it is so weird to hear them say their first names on occasion.
i was actually kind of sad that they broke them up cause like i almost started to believe that cameron could move past her issues and be in a healthy relationship
Great example of an toxic relationship that lasted too long. Cameron is pretty unkind to Chase over the course of it, but Chase is unhealthily obsessed/attached to her throughout. That whole "I'm gonna tell you I love you every week." thing was really uncool on his part, for example.
She was worried sick about him when he disappeared after the Dibala incident and filed a missing person's report. I think she did love him to the best of her abilities... it just was never going to be enough due to her traumas from her previous relationship.
Seriously I don't believe this bullshit that Cameron wanting to fix House was the only reason she felt attraction for him. Yes that was partly true but only partly. House made up this argument to shut down his feelings more easily. Later on, House admitted that her need to fix everyone 'explains almost everything' but not all. At the end of the series, he imaginated her saying she loved him, which proved he knew this all the way long. We all tend to choose people who have similar experience or trauma, and there's nothing wrong with that.
She has commitment issues. She was attracted to him because he was not available, so it was safe. That was my reading. That, and the plot demand of getting hot women to have the hots for House so he can look mor elike The Man, of course
thiss!! people have such a close mind regarding complex characters (+ if they are a female character who dated a loved male character).. i personally love chase but cmon they were both fucked in the head, doesnt mean theyre horrible, they just need to work on themselves
Remember Cameron thought she could “heal” both chase and house. As soon as she realized she couldn’t, it’s “aight imma head out” lmao the fuck outta here. Also she killed someone like 4-5 seasons before chase did and now she’s holier then though (she also wanted to kill the dictator but cuz chase did it “he bad me good”)
Cameron never got over her first husbands death, she definitely had something other then “wanting to fix them” with those boys, she was pressured by chase asking “do you like me?” For every Tuesday each week, and thought that’s what could bring him back to her after he got fired
She isn't a bad person but she was incredibley ruthless to Chase. Having someone marry you and tell you he loves you for, like, a million times and then says they don't know if they ever truly loved you... I would've felt incredibly heartbroken.
incredibly*
Yeah - it's like loving one person but getting married someone else just to prove you're able to have a 'healthy' relationship. I mean Chase isn't the only heartbroken here... :(
Im a huge fan of Chase but come on guys Chase also loved more House than he loved Cameron. He knew Cameron would see completely wrong that some would kill Dibala and not feeling guilty or some regrets of doing so and Chase said it he didn’t regret Killing Dibala meaning he wanted House not Cameron.
Chase didn’t love her as much he claimed maybe he did a little more for their relationship but at the end both loved the same men : House and that’s what broke them apart.
Daria yeah she left him for captain hook in once upon a time
She wouldn’t have said that if he didn’t keep pressuring her he wanted her to say that because he wanted her to admit it to herself so he and her could move on
when chase's voice cracked when he said "i could never match up to that" that's so exquisite i love it
This is what happens when you give your all to someone who isn't really all for you. Cameron showed him a lot of red flags up to and during the marriage e.g. didn't want to make the relationship more than sex, called off the vacation, wanted to keep her dead husband's sperm etc. She was never really 100% for him. But he was for her. Chase deserved better.
Lol she just thought she could fix him because they wanna better their man when it’s just an ego trip. Hell she killed someone way before chase did and she’s really giving him shit for it? What a hypocrite and textbook narcissist
@@Silux_Ray exactly
I love Chase but he needed to learn how to let go, more importantly to let go.
@@Silux_Ray That was a euthanization for a dying man who outright stated that's what he wanted. A little different than Chase purposely sabotaging treatment that would have made the dictator better. The man she killed was already running on fumes.
@@skymel7433 Chase gets the consequence of his actions. Perhaps didn't know of better women due to his household background
The writers are just brilliant: having her say yes would've potentially got them back together, so their ending story arcs wouldn't have been as good; having her say no would've maked her look like a terrible person who only used him. By saying "i don't know" she reinforces what House told her all those years ago, she needs a project, someone to fix, and she never got that with Chase.
I fucking love this show
What is the name of this show??
Bro season and episode?
Yes. This was the rich, complexity to the show. Cameron always suffered from the rescuer syndrome. Part of what made her choose to become a doctor. Cameron needs to feel like she's saving someone, or at the very least reducing their pain in the face of the inevitable. And yet, she was too hesitant to make the really tough choices until (Informed Consent) where Cameron took an active role in assisted suicide (technically probably 2nd degree homicide). But what Chase did was far more active, deliberate, and morally problematic. Still, from a needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few or the one perspective, what Chase did appeared almost necessary, especially after Dibala practically threatened Cameron and pretty much said he was going to stomp out the "cockroaches" which was his derisive for Sitibi people. Chase's turning point came when he spoke with one of Dibala's former youth recruits who admitted to the horiffic things that Dibala's faction made him and others like him do to the Sitibi women. Chase realized when Dibala demeaned and derogated Cameron that he was exactly what Dibala's would be assassin had described. After doing it, Chase was wracked with immense guilt. Not so much for having done what he did, as Chase came to the conclusion that his actions were necessary and warranted, but because he hid this huge secret and aspect of himself from Cameron. It was as if Chase hid who he truly was from Cameron. Upon his confession to Cameron, Cameron decided that she and Chase needed to break cleanly away from Princeton-Plainsboro Hospital and House. Chase realized later that he didn't want that. He knew who and what he was. Cameron did NOT like that Chase was no longer pliable to her influence. She no longer had a "project" in Chase to work on. Cameron's sense of worth is when she can save, rescue, fix someone else. In that way, she's very much like House, but she's House with emotional sensitivity, compassion, and patience.
@@victorpradha9946 Well put
@@mustafanaqvi3095 House M.D.
This just goes to show that Chase is the next house. Other than his progressive diagnostician skills improving, his ideas on how to psychoanalyze people was further getting sharpened
Plus both of them had bad fathers and went through a divorce
@@ayanjit9196 And how both of them almost becore disabled from an infart (House on the leg and Chase in the heart after getting stabbed) and had to do physical therapy to be able to walk again.
Cameron: ok ask any question you want
Chase: did you ever love me?
Cameron: how can you ask that?
Me: wtf you just gave him permission
She's not saying he can't ask that question, she's shocked that he would even consider the thought of her not loving him. Funny how she was wrong though.
Which movie ????
@@AmitSingh-xl3mx the show House MD
@@anushanayak5994 thanks
Women, in a nutshell
".. He was dying when you met him, and he was gone just a year into the marriage. So it was all honeymoon with him, now I could never match up to that."
Damn. Chase's character would not have come up with this idea just after that unofficial breakup. I think he always had this thought since the beginning. Fuck, that hurts.
I mean we all do. we all know when it won't work and in divorce but we choose to ignore that part because we don't want to believe it. right ?
I think, after Cameron's behavior in their relationship, Chase was 100% validated in asking a question like that. How incredibly heartbreaking to hear the person you love say that. He really deserved better. Chase is presented as this ladies' man but actually treats the people he's dating with tons of respect and love. He's a good guy and I wish he didn't have to go through this.
So what does ladies man mean
@@StreetDrillathat he likes sleeping with multiple women
@@MarianaRamirezLechuga I always thought it meant charming person
Them tears could have been real considering they were almost married in real life :(
Eh, what?
yeah and the tears could of been real cause they were broke up like half a year before but it's probably just because they're great actors
wow.. that adds more depth to this scene
Yep, I remember they had entire articles written about their wedding plans. Hard stuff to then say a few months later that it's over.
Whoah, I'm not sure if I could keep on playing the roles with something like that...
They dated in real life, got engaged, and broke up. This whole relationship arc was never acted, I genuinely think it was them healing together.
No way
reason for their breakup: Lupus
IT`S NOT LUPUS!
Could be sarcidosis or auto immune
False HIV
WTF lol
:D
Chase badgered Cameron until he finally got her to tell the truth. I like how he immediately calmed down, as if to say "see, actually saying that wasn't that hard."
Chases character development is the best in the entire show. Its like watching a boy not just become a man, but an excellent man and leader. I love when foreman is upset to lose him as an asset end series, but proud of him stepping into his full potential. Little known fact, albiet chase was in most the episodes, he solved the most cases of houses underlings.
Cameron was always a coward. She always pursued relationships that were doomed from the beginning, like her first husband or House. And when she was staring down the barrel of working through the issues of a more or less "normal" relationship, she ran from it and blamed House for "ruining Chase." Additionally, I've got to say the whole Dibala thing gave me a new respect for Chase. I don't know if what he did was truly right or wrong, but he made an incredibly difficult choice based on his personal convictions, living forever with the consequences of knowing he willingly took a man's life in the hope that it would save many others. I never really liked Chase before that, but it gave me a new respect for his character. Meanwhile, Cameron was perfectly content to hem and haw from the sidelines, condemning the man and agonizing over the knowledge they were saving him (even suggesting they let him die after someone tries to assassinate him) but turning away in horror at the prospect of actually taking the onus upon herself to live up to her so-called convictions. Her craven hypocrisy truly was loathsome...
Back in the first episode, House tells her that she is damaged, somehow, in some way, or she would have used her looks to succeed in some field requiring much less effort.
Her arc is the reverse of Amber's. I started out liking Cameron, then moving to dislike, although I wouldn't give completely up on her. I started out disliking Amber, but was really sad to see her go just when she seemed to be moving past her demons.
@@mikespangler98 for me i dont like the sappy type in shows, sometimes in real life too, as they dont make rational decisions consistently. so in short i never liked her character and it just made me dislike her more so
that's what foreman told her about compromise
Yeah there are a few episode I don't like to watch thanks to her, like the one where they treat a patient who don't want to leave his house (not the doctor). I hated her in that episode.
I agree. Cameron was a terrible person. I hate how everyone in the show acts like she was some sort of angel. She wasn’t. She was manipulative, selfish, a coward, cruel, self-centered, and full of “oh poor me, give me pity” whenever the tiniest consequences of her own actions came around.
Feels for days, considering their real relationship
"Don't bring him up!" Cameron always does that, whenever someone brings up her dead husband. She acts like it's because people are being disrespectful by bringing him up, but the truth is she does her best to avoid thinking about how much his death has screwed up her ability to have healthy relationships. She only wants to think about how she did something saintly by marrying him and not recognize that it's had a lasting negative impact on her.
And she didn't even love him! She felt pity because he was dying and she loved his best friend but by the time they were both single it was disgusting to both of them.
@@Mourtzouphlos240 Very true. She only was willing to marry him because she knew it wouldn't be long-term. And when she decided not to get with the best friend she was able to tell herself she was being a saint again, by resisting "cheating" on her husband. But it was really another excuse for her to avoid commitment.
@@dcasias708 exactly
@@dcasias708 she didn't cheat on her husband? I watched ep 2 ×6 she tells Willson that she couldn't control her actions.
Ofc she’s doing her best to avoid him, her husband is dead, and she never was really inlove with him either bc she said she was inlove with his bestfriend
The saddest part about this was this reflected Jesse and Jennifer's real life relationship to some degree. I wonder if Hugh did this knowing it would bring up these emotions.
that would be quite sadistic actually, i don't think they would have accepted the script if it was intentional. in fact, i am impressed they did in the first place
Hugh Laurie wasn't the writer... he just acted and a few times directed.
Hugh laurie actually said that he could not hold his tears, knowing that this scene had some real context.
In fairness, after the broke up David Shore said that making them go through a wedding scene would be cruel and he did exactly that. So I could see him trying to take advantage of the situation like this.
Hugh isn't the writer.. he's an actor
I think she loved him, but she was never in love with him. That scene hits right in the heart. We’ve all been Cameron at one point of our lives and we’ve all been Chase at another. Don’t really know which one hurts more: to not love someone 100% or to not be loved 100%...it’s all just so hard and the people that managed to find their 100% while giving 100% are SO LUCKY.
If You are like Cameron then You have serious issues.
@@sunwillriseagain6202 True, but a lot of people are like that, and are just as oblivious to it as Cameron it. It sucks, and should be dealt with, but its pretty normal.
Damn it's like you just shot me with a shotgun in my chest with what you wrote. I recently had to experience this situation and sadly i think i was the Chase in the relationship... it sucks so much
Well said
Very well said
I actually forgot his first name was Robert 😂
Same XDDD
Every line, delivery, movement, and acting is just incredibly spectacular. *WOW.* The word "Powerful" just doesn't cut it for how these 2 did in this scene ❤ Left us all speechless
One of the most underrated scenes in the whole series
Series name please
Siam Nojib house md
Fun fact Hugh Laurie actually cried during this scene.
really? he said that?
@@Nizamm1 I never found anything googling it
That's my boy Chase, slaying the dragon.
This clip is incomplete, because after a while she says “I don’t know why I said that, I did love you”. I really like how she owned up to being the “unfixable” one. It’s so well written! Her character in particular… so well written!
Chase was 100% right about her first marriage.
What was it could you explain
@@nothumanff5900 she married a guy that had terminal cancer or some disease and he died a year into their marriage
But actually it wasn't right from his side to tell her about this. She knew it, he knew it but it wasn't good to remind her about it coz this is the thing that always really hurts her
Mmm
House precisely called her out on this during their first date
I had no empathy for Cameron and a whole lot more for Chase after this sad scene...
Then you haven't seen the whole episode
Chase deserves better than Cameron
Chase isn't a saint. I really don't understand why people baby him (don't mistake me here, he's my FAVORITE character). He was relentless with Cameron, constantly going after her, refusing to take no for an answer when their relationship started, constantly bugging her about moving slowly throughout their relationship. I believe she truly loved him (and she tells him this in this episode, taking back her original statement of not knowing). Cameron is JUST as broken as Chase, and Chase deserves just as much backlash for HIS actions. Those that involve Cameron and those that don't. I think they're both truly good people that never intended to hurt each other. They were just too screwed up.
@@paulawallaby5153 Chase deserves backlash for what??? What did he do wrong to Cameron???
He loved her and tried his best to make her fall in love with him... She should have stuck with NO as an answer...
Why? Because she dared to divorce a man who put his job above her?
Oh Chase. You deserved so much better
Real question that modern couples need to ask themselves: “Did you ever love me?” Sometimes we got confused between like, love and using people.
And "I don't know" is a perfectly legitimate reply
That makes sense
DO they even know what true genuine love is or are they too caught up / more concerned with selfies and posting carefully curated images of themselves to project an unrealistic portrayal of their lives?
It's the question many of us are afraid to ask but need to know
Gerson Monroy 💯💯💯
I love how they left a lot of Cameron's family and past as ambiguous, aside from her first marriage. We never met her parents, and House probed with some basic childhood questions very early in the series (that we still don't know if she responded truthfully or not), but other than that.... all we know is that Cameron is pretty darn screwed up.
I wasn't the biggest fan of Chase, but she definitely strung him along, knowing that she wasn't invested into their relationship, knowing that she didn't, or couldn't, feel anything real or deep, and it wasn't just because of her dead husband... there had to be something more.
I'm glad that they didn't give these two a ride-me-off-into-the-sunset ending just to pander to the audience. It gave such a visceral feeling of relatable instability.
Chase is so wonderfully complicated...who would have known at the start.
WORD💯💯
Exactly
A great example of how there aren’t exactly toxic people, per say, but there ARE toxic relationships. Neither Chase nor Cameron are “toxic” but when put together … well … this happens …
Nah, Cameron is D E F I N E T I L Y toxic as fuck
1:10 Chase take a deep gasp, swallows it and looks at Cameron with the stone look House has and delivers his final words to her in House’s cold sullen tone forever becoming him.
If she isn't into you, she will never be.
Cameron couldn't have made it any clearer.
It was obvious that she could never truly give Chase what he wanted, the complete package.
But he kept chasing her. Maybe that's why the writers named him 'Chase'.
Pro tip : if someone has to think about whether they love or not, they don't love you period.
She answered immediately, but he had to make her cry.
@@cybercriminal3110 thanks to point out his point
@@uthopia27 Wdym?
@@cybercriminal3110 No she didn't. Saying "How could you ask that?" isn't an answer. She never said yes. She didn't answer until she finally said "I don't know."
@@master11050 If someone came up to you and asked you "are you human?" your first natural response also wouldn't be "yes". When you love somebody and fcking married that person you don't expect a genuine question about that
She was my favorite character for YEARS but how badly she treated Chase was completely and utterly unfair.
You can see the pain in his face when he heard it! 😭😭😭
Poor little Chase (and partly Cameron), they didn't deserve this..
the breakdown of chase and cameron's marriage really changed my view of cameron. first of all, i never understood her not being able to let the dibola situation go: it was ~her~ who first suggested it.
but i could understand where was coming from sort of. this scene, though: say what you want about chase (and i never got the hate for him), but he really really loved cameron. the fact that she would go through with a marriage, continue to be married to him and then ~act like the breakdown of the marriage was his fault~ when she was never even sure she loved him said only bad things about her character.
Agree! She broke him..
It is also worth remembering that she had already practiced euthanasia in a patient who was a physician after learning that he used babies as guinea pigs for experiments in cancer treatment. Okay, he did a horrible thing, but it was SHE who did the condemnation. This is not very different from the Dibala case, so it makes no sense to think that Chase is a monster, or that it has been corrupted.
(sorry for my bad english)
@@elvisoliveedits Honestly I don't even remember this.... But the truth is that writers had to write her character off and it was done hastilly and it damaged her character. It was a poor exit for her.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Cameron was an amazing character, honestly the best written female character on House. It was *because* she was complicated, good, bad, hypocritical, and struggling to be the moral guiding light (which is a role women often get). Cameron got storylines that, at the time, (supporting) female characters just didn't get. She was messy, a bit selfish, not consistent *like all people are*. I stopped watching after season 3 when they relegated her story to the sidelines (and because it was such a big change to avoid the dreaded season 4 doom that all series f'd up then) bc they did her story and character dirty. They couldn't let her go completely so they just watered down her character.
(also, forever disappointed that they brought back Foreman and Chase but didn't bring back Cameron... because apparently there's a max of one woman in the team -.-)
@@rebeccas2813 There were more women in the team in later series, and at one point there were more women than men. I think the actor who played Cameron probably wanted to do other things so they had to write a story for her to leave and only visit occasionally.
Never date a coworker especially if you know you’re a rebound
No matter what everyone says, chase is my fav character (ofc after Kutner).
Chase was always right, in every single moment of their relationship
Meanwhile Taub and Foreman are high as kites in the records room
This is so heart breaking
Poor Chase. :(
Poor Cameron too, but she was already broken, and then she broke Chase.
Exactly cameron broke chase
God Jesse and Jennifer’s acting here is amazing
This was the moment chase truly became House
the strange thing is that when the series started I liked cameron and did not like chase. in season 2 I didn't like the foreman. But after she accused Wilson of handing House over to the cop, I started to see her as a badly loved one. She liked House and defended everything he did, if Foreman or Chase complained about being slapped by a dealer, she hated it. But as soon as she lost her "interest" in House, she started to say that he was a sociopath. Which may be true, but it was hypocritical, she accused everyone that she did not understand House, wilson, cody and then wanted to blame everything bad on it. She used Chase, and wanted to come out as the victim, despite Chase's mistake being horrible. She asked him to choose to stay away from House, change jobs, go to another city, and he didn't even admit that he loved him. She was my favorite character, but in the end even from Foreman I started to like it more. That he at least evolved, it just got worse. And it came out in such a ridiculous way. translated on google translator. sorry about the mistakes.
Wilson handing House to the cops wasn't a bad decision, but in the end it didn't change anything so she was right.
She loved the sociopath in House, she always knew it, that was the exact reason she was into him.
How did she use Chase? She avoided starting relationships with him, but he insisted and she gave it a try. She loved him, and wanted to start a new life for his own sake - to let go the dibala situation. Meanwhile he tried to control her all the time out of jealousy.
Wdym? Wilson thought it was her who handed him to the cops??
"that's not fair" IT IS FAIR! ALSO! You said you'd answer whatever question he had, and IMMEDIATELY started evading!
Typical Cameron.
@@Chocobear555 Typical dumbass speaking in this comment.
@@cybercriminal3110 typical simp can’t stop himself from white knighting women cuz man bad women good
She means it in a “why would you ask that? Ofc I did!” Type of way
Thirteen > Cameron
StraightButGay Yes! Thirteen is awesome :)
Wilson>thirteen>cameron
thirteen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron don't fight me on this
@@Oly1y always and forever
Cameron is OG and I will always love her. Also, why are you pitting Cameron against Thirteen? Is it because they're both women? You can like both. Sexism is alive and well I see
I still want Cameron backstory. I still wonder about her past before her first husband passed away if her past affected her decisions on love and caring for others.
The women who do this... They EXIST.
It took so much to get it out of her. Ridiculous. The truth may hurt, but its better it comes out sooner rather than later. Getting strung along for a long time makes the pain more unbearable if it ends up unraveling much later... There's real people who need to stop doing this.
@@brandonking772 Well said. The best thing in relationships is honesty and communication. So many people don't understand that though.
I think every human might do this in certain situations no matter the gender
Brandon King Honestly, I don’t think Cameron knew the answer herself. She wants to believe that she loved him. She wants to believe she’s capable of that but at the end of the day there’s plenty of room for reasonable doubt and as he poked holes in every argument she told herself, she had no choice but to admit to herself and to him that as much as she wants to believe it, it might not be true.
Brandon King sooner rather than later is after them getting married?
0:53 I really feel that.
Man the way she and chase interacted made me consistently like her less and less. I found how she treated him so off and ingenuine. I guess this scene proved that kind of action was intentional. Great actress for being able to portray that
this shit gives me chills
I feel like all those years as Billy Kennedy were in preparation for this scene ;)
Wow this is literally tom and summer in 500 days of summer
Not sure whether you love someone. Symptom of Lupus!
It's almost funny how relatable this is
Cameron loved chase. She was just pressured by the facts
Chase was the best of them all.
Cameron is the broken and twisted one, not Chase or House. She kept blaming everyone else but truth is that she is so messed up and she is the one who needs fixing
News flash... every main character in House is broken AF. In one way or another. They even made a joke about it in season 8 by introducing Adams.
@@Mic_Glow Sure, but you didn't have to be a bitch about it. Chill and fuck off with your condescendncy, you didn't say anything new ,smartass.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849: Wow! Defensive much?
By the way: condescendncy isn't even a word.
Lads, if your girl says "I don't know!" to any serious question like that, turn around, and leave!
Cameron loves both House and Chase so she left without both. :(
I don't think she loved either one of them. I think she viewed all of the men she supposedly, "loved," as projects or men she could change. She never actually loved them for them.
@@Chocobear555 It is true for House and her husband,not Chase.He was the exactly opposite of messed up(atleast from what she known).
@@Chocobear555 No, she didn't. That's what House told us and the perspective we're told to view her character from. House is great at reading people's intentions and who they are, but he was often wrong about Cameron. So when House told us in season 1 that Cameron wants to fix people, she doesn't love them, that's the angle we're going to look at her at for a while. What do I think? I think Cameron is damaged herself, and since she tells us very little about her past we know very little about her, and looks for other people who are damaged, and for people who challenge her. House did that, as did Chase. They challenged her and forced her to grow in different ways, while also understanding what it is like to not be whole.
The problem with analyzing Cameron's character is that she is a character that is shown on a very "surface level", only through how other people perceive her. I.e House saying she craves fixing people, the general storyline that she is emotional, can't stand up for herself, and her general struggle with morality. Beyond what the people around her says about her, or perceives her, we're not privy to much about her character. Just look at her sparse wiki page where it basically just says that her parents are alive, she grew up in the midwest, has a brother, pointed out an error her professor missed on a test in college, that she interned at mayo, might've been arrested at one point, married a person she knew had cancer, fell for his friend, and became a widow at an early age. That's it.
Saying with absolutes that she never actually loved them for them is just us as viewers believing House whole heartedly on his presumption of her. House is often wrong about people. While the series is about how astute he is and that he is often right, it's also about what he's wrong about, and how dangerous it is to fall for misanthropic ideas about other people. House is a cautionary tale, not a person to look up to or believe 100% of what comes out of his mouth.
If I found a man like Chase...❤❤❤
Cameron has also narcissistic traits. When it's convenient for her, she loves him; when not, she doesn't know. It surprised me she managed to get married and be a mother at the finale. Who knows how that worked.
Crazy haven’t watched this show in a long time and completely forgot that these two were on it.
Personally, I like Cameron more when she had crush on House and Only House.. She getting of with Chase couldnt worked cuz she loved House.. Its the same thing like when you break up and still have fellings, u moved on but still there u got piece of you that loves that person... I think they should instead of this get House-Cameron couple... It would be diffrent and not common, and unlike Cuddy she loved him as his grumpy him, "normal" him.. Cuddy dumped him right after he took one pill so thats their love.. Also it would have been intersting if Chase dated Cuddy or Wilson Dated Cuddy like it seem crazy that way but David Shore would make that work.. I dont see often in shows Old/young and Young/old.. Usually its Young/Young Old/Only.. But C'est la Vie..
he IS house 2.0!
Hugh Laurie directed this episode and it was fucking amazing
Open and honest is important
I love them together,but.. I love chase more 😞 he didn't deserve that 💔😭
tbh cameron is nothing but a hot piece
OMG WAIT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY KPOP STAN THAT WATCHED HOUSE MD AND SHIPPED CHAMERON ABANNSBSBSBS ILY
do yk what episode this is?
House did not corrupt Chase,
She did
Frankly Chase just grew up and Cameron couldn't move on. One of her major emotional issues really, she doesn't mourn or deal almost at all. Just buries.
Yeah, she's the one who taught him that life doesn't matter.
@@cybercriminal3110 she’s also the one who killed a man first and then tried to pretend she’s mother Teresa and give shit to shit for doing something similar. But hey man bad women good
@@Silux_Ray Oh, you took your time to shit in here too. Didn't bother to notice.
to be honest i never liked cameron i tried so hard but she just got on my nerves
Same!
How?
@@cybercriminal3110 maybe because they aren’t simps?
@@Silux_Ray May be because they also call people simps bc they can't think of real arguments?
I'm only one season 1 and chase has gotta be my fav. Cameron is so far probably my least fav and I know I'm spoiling the show for myself by watching this but it just breaks my heart :/ chase deserves better
It's not about "deserve", it's about fitting. They were wrong people for each other.
@@cybercriminal3110 no chase was wrong for trying to love someone who he knew didn’t. Cameron was wrong for leading him on when he’s only the rebound guy. And you’re wrong because you’re a simp
This was way too real
I've had struggles liking Cameron's character from the get go. She just comes so insencere trying to act righteous all the time when she slept with co-worker, hit on the boss multiple times, and even commited euthanasia. But it's okay when she does it, right.
The entire old crew had some problems. But only cameron tried to be someone righteous which was annoying since her personal life painted her in the opposite life being super irresponsible.
All in all a great character for house to play with. Since thats what the show is mostly about.
Cameron may have committed euthanasia but Chase committed murder.
Women :/
@@DarkGob potato/potato
Did you miss the part where that patient she killed was begging them to let him die? Besides, Cameron forgave Chase. But he wanted to live with that, and she couldn't.
Man the pain in his voice when he says: “now I could never match up to that. Just tell me the truth, did you ever love me?”. Fuck that hurt
I preffer her with hook
Lol
Me too 😁😂
I prefer him with Dawson...
1:10 That look is 100% House style.
Aww, I love Chase.
No homo.
How many of you face this and when break up she is the one who cry and she is the one who wants to break up 🖐️
“Well at least it’s not lupus”
okay Robert.. .
Who?
I'm just so used to Chase 😂😂😂
Do we know why she called him Robert?
@@marikaalpis9037 because that is his first name.
@@peterismad772 thank you I didn't know that
@@marikaalpis9037 xd
They all always call everyone by their last name (well, apart from thirteen, for obvious reasons), it is so weird to hear them say their first names on occasion.
Jesse is a great actor like I can't even😭❤️❤️❤️
Ouch!! Gonna need a senzu for that one Chase.
“Senzu bean!” 😠
@@Silux_Ray Oh, You think you're cute.
@@KibatheMalinois bitch I’m adorable! Good to see a fellow tfs enjoyer
@@Silux_Ray DBZA homies in da house!!(Ahem) Ah yes, always a pleasure to meet a fellow gentleman of taste and culture.
@@KibatheMalinois likewise kind sir
y'all know these two were actually married for the time the two were together on the show, then when they divorced they broke up on the show.
They were never married just engaged
i was actually kind of sad that they broke them up cause like i almost started to believe that cameron could move past her issues and be in a healthy relationship
I don't think I could ever come back from that if my wife said that to me.......
All he wanted, desperately, was truth. And he finally got it.
Great example of an toxic relationship that lasted too long. Cameron is pretty unkind to Chase over the course of it, but Chase is unhealthily obsessed/attached to her throughout. That whole "I'm gonna tell you I love you every week." thing was really uncool on his part, for example.
I think that was 'I'm going to ask you out on a date every week' back during season 3. But yeah, he seemed a bit too attached at times.
@@podrickfookinpayne2329 In either case a bad thing to do to someone who already to him no.
Naw they were both bad in the relationship, but their was some cute scenes
She was worried sick about him when he disappeared after the Dibala incident and filed a missing person's report. I think she did love him to the best of her abilities... it just was never going to be enough due to her traumas from her previous relationship.
Seriously I don't believe this bullshit that Cameron wanting to fix House was the only reason she felt attraction for him. Yes that was partly true but only partly. House made up this argument to shut down his feelings more easily. Later on, House admitted that her need to fix everyone 'explains almost everything' but not all. At the end of the series, he imaginated her saying she loved him, which proved he knew this all the way long. We all tend to choose people who have similar experience or trauma, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Plus I'm pretty sure she loved him for those eyes too :))
She has commitment issues. She was attracted to him because he was not available, so it was safe. That was my reading.
That, and the plot demand of getting hot women to have the hots for House so he can look mor elike The Man, of course
thiss!! people have such a close mind regarding complex characters (+ if they are a female character who dated a loved male character).. i personally love chase but cmon they were both fucked in the head, doesnt mean theyre horrible, they just need to work on themselves
didnt know this is where that did you ever love me thing came from.
I came here to die. Again.
1:01 here it is.
Everyone should love once so that they know why they should not love
Remember Cameron thought she could “heal” both chase and house. As soon as she realized she couldn’t, it’s “aight imma head out” lmao the fuck outta here. Also she killed someone like 4-5 seasons before chase did and now she’s holier then though (she also wanted to kill the dictator but cuz chase did it “he bad me good”)
Cameron never got over her first husbands death, she definitely had something other then “wanting to fix them” with those boys, she was pressured by chase asking “do you like me?” For every Tuesday each week, and thought that’s what could bring him back to her after he got fired
Lmfaoooo in the final episode , that dude pushing the baby 👶 stroller 😂😂😂 he had the biggest simp face in the world
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Cameron allway's liked Zombies she just want's to heal them but it's not a good Relationship goal when you are dating a other man
why is youtube recommending this to me when I am in this exact same position in my life smh.