Tesla Model 3: NO Indicator Stalks?! 7 Days of Regret!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- Special thanks to the Tesla Press team for the loan of this Tesla Model 3 Highland car, this is the long-range version. This video is going to take you threw what its like to drive round the UK with roundabouts and no indicator stalk. We also take the Tesla to a supercharger to see how fast you can charge this model 3 on a v3 supercharger. Plus we discuss some of the major updates to the refreshed model 3 like the rear entertainment screen plus its new air condition seats and styling changes!
00:00 First Drive Of Tesla Model 3 Refresh Highland
00:46 First attempt to use a stalk in stalkless design
01:16 Day 2 No Gear Shifter Model 3
05:56 Model 3 Rear control screen controls
07:00 Day 4 My Mind is changing on indicators
09:33 Tesla Highlander Roundabouts
10:05 Supercharging 7% to 80% Tesla Model 3
11:30 Day 6 Highlander Model 3 Styling!
14:00 Day 8 Final Summary And Thoughts of no stalks
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I think its likely the program could change but Tesla sales are overall down so I think referrals are to stay for sometime now
The reason the stalk is better is NOT because we are used to it, it’s because it’s in a FIXED position which is key for safety It shouldn’t change as you are steering and in America, our roundabouts turn left and the signal button somewhere at the bottom (your lap) when turning would be tough to find and dangerous
No matter how perfect a car might otherwise be, there’s no way I would buy a car with no indicator stalks.
No complaints from ex BMW drivers.
That was going to be my title! "Driving A Tesla Like A BMW No Blinkers"
The lack of stalks is literally the main thing preventing me from getting the refresh :/ Only hope is that I try it out and don't absolutely hate it...
Even if you do hate it, s3xy buttons are coming out with stalks so it's no big deal. They release next month.
I bet they change it back OR at least make it the SAME cost option. Or Tesla can wait until there’s a major lawsuit after a deadly crash and then do it
I suggest if you TRY and TEST the new model 3 you request a LONG test drive from them I don't think an hour is enough to get used to it, I found even after a day I was on the fence still.
Love your vids Nick, but please stop calling it a Highlander. It’s a Highland.
Remember - there can be only one 😉
Technically it’s the refresh 😂
Highlander is a movie from the 90's or so :)
@@NicolasRaimo Yes, but it’s called Highland ☺️
@@GenuineFlolie can only be one
I purchased a 2023 Model Y for several reasons. Among them was to get a car with stalks. I am delighted I have them.
When the Model Y gets its refresh would you avoid buying it?
Like your review of driving without stalks and how you got used to it. Loved the Pooch co-driver more, in fact so much i had to replay the video because i concentrated on your dog so much i phased out with what you were saying 🤣🤣
Nice review Nick. Thank you.
Such a good looking car definitely getting one next
I very much prefer the no stalk configuration and the highland is my favorite car on the market. To each their own though.
Yep and that’s why it should be an option and I’m betting it soon will after complaints and possible lawsuits post crash(s). And I’m personally not buying one (which I want to) until after the change assuming there will be one. And I think it’s too much of a turn off… especially for the safety conscious soccer moms etc
@@scottjones9603 well I respect differences of opinion but I think it should be possible for people to adapt to it, I have stuck it out in model S and honestly it is not that big of a deal, or at least not for me.
@@supraman321na4Just like when people see the speed Is on the screen. They hate It at first but adapt very quickly and find It easier
Nick! A clickbait title? Not good. There are no regrets, after 7 days. You tricked us.
You missed the regret then.... I want one!
If you had a couple other cars (with stalks) that you drive on a regular basis would you be able to go back and forth between them?
The BIG problem, finding something on the screen isn’t muscle memory and when you need indicators (while turning) is dangerous. Same thing with gears
You don't indicate on screen its a physical button
@@NicolasRaimo no it’s on the screen with the new models without stalks, unless you are talking about the non lit up buttons (until u tap on them) on the headliner which is not good
@@scottjones9603 no there on the wheel as per the entire video, the gear selection is on the screen but as again explained in the video that’s the most obvious of choices
@@NicolasRaimo ahhh I meant “gear” indication and changing buttons and as far as the signal indicators, they aren’t fixed because you’re often turning the steering wheel whereas stalk don’t move at all and therefore the “muscle memory” aspect
I have just got my new Model 3 RWD and no indicator stalks. I love the buttons and find them super simple to use. Lots of roundabouts in the UK! Majority have the wheel at 90 degress max, so no problem to press a button. The other benefit is cancelling a turn signal. The problem with stalks is you tap it to turn it off but it triggers the opposite side and potentially then again. With the buttons it is a single press to turn it off if it has not cancelled, and they seem to cancel a lot more consistently than any of my older cars that had stalks. had them for past 38 years!
I suggest you give it a test drive, I was surprised, as was my father.
stalks on tesla and most cars can be cancelled by hitting same direction again and then you don't trigger other way
I have seen aftermarket stalks that fit like OEM
Indeed! I think like most things aftermarket thou some people will just be happy with a stock Tesla
@@NicolasRaimo I think the stalkless M3 increases the used price of my 2021 M3. Any thoughts?
Enhauto (the S3XY buttons people) are in the process of making some stalks for those that want them. Personally I’d definitely be fitting a screen in front of the driver as I like the extra information I get in my Model S.
Good review, Nick.
Accords quite closely to my experience re the stalks.
Confused to see that plenty of comments appear to have views, often “negative”, but I don’t see them all based on whether people have driven an example.
People should try it.
But also remember Nick’s admission. It only works if, like me, you are expecting to use the indicators as the Advanced Warning of Your Intentions (which is why we have them, contrary to some drivers’ behaviours 🤨)
What a surprise, raining in Chapel en Le Frith 😂
It is not known as a highlander. Its Highland. That was the internal code name for the development program.
Tesla were really funny about me calling it the highland... They prefer refreshed model 3 :)
Love your dog Nick !! I get what you say about the stalk missing and get used to it but it purely a design feature and not a functional one ?
Thanks Ian, had the odd nasty comment about my dog in comments but you know what they say never trust someone who doesn't like a dog
@@NicolasRaimo jeez nick saw them ... and you are so right, we have a Westie BTW
White seat owners swear by wet wipes. I really love the white ones. May use blankets with the dogs as my labradoodle has really sharp claws. Lovely to see your dog Nick
Thanks 🙏 I’ve got a thick beach towel on seat just to protect the seat when Tess is with me
I reckon would become more difficult, the tighter the turn against desired direction of travel, such as when on a mini roundabout with four or more exits. Or on a staggered junction, on a bend, in a country lane, (the personification of fun & hell incarnate).
I did a huge variation of driving with LOTS of roundabouts sizes and tried all types of exits, As said in video you get use to the Highland but it takes least a 6 days to become NORMAL
Gear change on screen is absolutely no problem in EV as you really just don't need to change gear unless stationary and indicators buttons also like you said make you indicate properly once you get used to them muscle memory wise
Tha challenge appears to be indicating to *leave* a roundabout - which happens before you straighten out.
If the satnav did it automagically then that would be sort of ok, but so many journeys without…
Yep I got to learn that on roundabuts the signal would be pointed to top of windscreen once you know that its faster to get used to
@@NicolasRaimo and then you hit a mini roundabout….
To be fair, most drivers seem to think that indicating is optional anyway.
Is there such a thing as a retro-fitted indicator stalk?
It could be a hot-seller!
In fact there is S-E-X-Y buttons make one I believe
There’s also the need for all of a sudden wipers and fluid… NOT safe and they will soon find that out when thousands of cars roll and a few have accidents Is it really worth it for Tesla to save a little money with everything being NON button, NON stalks. Not wise
Yeh. The legal requirement for safety and being in full control cannot be met
I have heard that this will affect their NCAP Ratings.
@@DavidPlayfair it already has in Europe I believe
Button for wippers on wheel, press once for single wipe, hold to spray and clean
@@NicolasRaimo A button on either side of the steering wheel would be better than buttons stacked vertically on one side.
A BYD Seal advert appeared during this video. Looks like a very good rival to the Model 3, particularly if they bring down the price of the base model to just under £40K.
BYD Seal bit smaller and tighter but nice car, I've not driven it so couldn't comment which I'd have but base model 3 is 40kish and its base is pretty well loaded out!
A problem is that you have the habit to let your hands slide all over the steering wheel continously. Even in shallow turns you constantly let the steering wheel glide through your hands, which is in my opinion not necessary. Just grip the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock and make the turn, with one or 2 hands. This is saver anyways as the airbag may cause your hand to hit your face in an accident.
Never happened in all the miles I did in this you have to finely press it it’s quite hard to press by misstake
I mean for getting used to pressing the buttons instead of a stalk.
Having no indicator stalks isn’t a hassle it’s a major safety issue.
What were Tesla thinking!
Drive one, I was with you until I drove this and it changed my mind on it
You can’t “indicate” early in a roundabout as there are turns every few seconds It’s not like a straight away where you can just do one signal way in advance and you’re done
You indicate your intention of direction when approaching thats in the highway code, you then indicate to exit I did mini and big roundabouts all week like I said in video it was a pain, then I got used to it
@@NicolasRaimo I don’t want to hunt for a moving indicator button somewhere near my lap especially given how crappy people merge in and out of roundabouts especially when busy
Nick is using a *loaner* car, and he brought his dog with him in the car? Could that not *damage* the car?
Hey Derek it’s a press car not a standard Tesla loaner, Dogs also on a super thick towel she comes with me in every car including my own Tesla for last 4 years no damage at all
@@NicolasRaimo Dogs can lick everything, and get saliva everywhere. Dogs can scratch the back of the seats, right?
Some dogs are kind of stinky and maybe have ticks or fleas? But not your dog!
@@DerekDavis213 correct derek my dogs well groomed and cleaned she’s not damaged a single car ever she doesn’t shed hair as she’s part poodle
2 month on and still dislike indicators buttons. I have green and red sticker on buttons which helps on roundabouts. I would happy to pay £1000 for standard indicator stick. I think Tesla have made great car apart from indicators. Would I buy another Tesla with steering wheel indicator No way. The wiper button I can live with and use voice commands for wiper speed. Doing 5 mile Kwh with LFP battery this time of year.
Highlander 😅
I find it odd that it doesn't indicate for you if satnav guidance is on that seems a no brainer for anyone and more so for someone who is trying to make a fully automated vehicle
Agree I thought this be a NO BRAINER on this car and am pretty sure it was something elon promised would come
@@NicolasRaimo Elon has a track record of removing things before the replacement is ready like the sensors ... I'm sure it will be out soon
Tesla WILL change back to stalks or put as an option as it’s dangerous in many instances. I made the same prediction with the stupid yoke which is now ONLY an option… a more expensive one as well. Also said the same thing about the horn being a TINY button. That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen after a crash where someone tries to find the horn and can’t
Ferrari did this many years ago
I don't think they will Scott after driving car for a week I really didn't mind it, am as shocked as anyone but Highland Model 3 is quite good as is, I do think having the option would sell more cars
Cars have a type approval, there is a lot to comply with. There is apparently no law that the horn should be in the middle of the steering wheel. So people can lawsuit whatever they want but they would have to lawsuit the rule/lawmaker.
@@GenuineFlolie it’s a very niche car and not one sold to millions and owners gladly accept whatever Ferrari tells them to
@@NicolasRaimo I don’t think it’s about selling more cars as it is… preventing lawsuits. Notice how quick they were to recall ALL cyber trucks for pedal problem. As soon as someone is trying to quickly signal while in a roundabout or turn on the wipers when windshield gets douched by rain or mud… they will change quickly. I’ve been right so far… we shall see
Well gee whiz......who woulda thunk that sufficient numbers of cars could go down an assembly line.......... miss out on control stalks......and still get through the PDI process......and then STILL BE SOLD to enough buyers......... who didn't notice.......for long enough to give the impression that it was successful inspite of the incompetence.
How else can you explain this idiocy ?!.
I do suggest you drive one before thinking its awful... However I did the same as you prior to driving it so I get your point
More dog please
What’s your dogs name
Tess for Tesla she’s pre me buying EVs old lady now 9 years old
This should be illegal. The button is not better in anyway known to man. It’s cognitively complex with zero muscle memory.
I do reckon you should drive one first as I used to fully agree with your statement previously
"7 Days of Regret!". Clickbait much?
Regret is I want one
@@NicolasRaimo Indeed
The dog needs to be secured in the car its a major distraction to road safety....
Dogs got a harmess on, which is bolted to seat, and in the belt buckle how can it be more secure?
@@NicolasRaimo Put it behind a Dog guard maybe .I am not a dog owner but the amount of cars with dog's heads sticking out of front and rear windows is unbelievable .Its still a distraction while you stroke it you don't have both hands on the wheel either .
@@Nik-sk7qr amount of dogs I’ve seen die from a rear end crash is huge, I’ll stick to seat belt and harness thanks
@@NicolasRaimo Sorry I don't believe you have seen lots of dogs killed in Car accidents .I was a lorry driver for more than 30 years and never ever saw a serious accident happen.
More clickbait…
Which you clicked....