Gotta say. I owned a few night crawlers and always sell them cause axial and trx4 is more appealing. But seeing the crawling capabilities of it. Makes me wanna keep the one I just acquired.
The night crawler gets a bad wrap but mine is stock other than a wheels and tires and 4mm axle hub extensions and it out performs all my axials and has now been my truck of choice for competitions . Had it 5 years and never broke a thing I love it just not much aftermarket support for it
People hate the worm gears but they provide more throttle control at low speeds, and better torque and drag brake. I see this as a plus I don't like using excessive wheel speed when crawling anyways. Everyone has their own style crawling, great video !
Yeah, I know this is an older video, but as a follow up to my last comment, yep... In stock form, it did ok, but was sloooowww AF. Stuck a set of Proline Trenchers in Predator compound mounted on Injora 1.9 beadlocks with 17mm hubs (hubs that come with wheels are 10mm, so these add 7mm to the track width on each side, and brass wheel weights on all four corners. Stock tire/wheel weighs 4.1oz. New tire/wheel/weight setup is 8oz each. Much more planted now. Then I threw in the cheap Axial 27T, a HW 1080 (for the 3S and 7.4V BEC) and an all SS gear 305oz servo. TOTALLY different animal! Still slow crawls just as well, but now has wheel speed for launching up steep inclines and hard bumping over obstacles. Also even has a trail speed above walking pace so can now be used as a trail truck in between obstacles without walking all over the back of the truck. It's actually a REALLY fun truck now, with just those simple and cheap mods. Might be even a little better with a HH Crawlmaster 550 13T, just for a bit more torque. Not that it's lacking now, but ya know.... ;-) Definitely a keeper for me!
I am having a really hard time with my NC, motor keeps smoking. Thought this was only on 3S, but now confirmed even on 2S. Stock motor and esc. Do you know if a Titan 550 21T be a good alternative? Someone has it available here locally from his TRX6
@@Glenn.J If it's smoking the motor on the stock electronics with 2S you may want to make sure you don't have any binding, or excessive drag anywhere in the drivetrain. I mean, these are brushed motors so won't last forever, especially if ran hard and hot and for longer periods. Use a temp gun to monitor your temps. But, under "normal use" I haven't found my setup to get excessively hot running a full 3S battery pack. The 21T Titan would likely be a good alternative, IF you can make it fit. I can't say for sure on the Titan, but I did try to fit the Holmes Hobby 550 I had on hand. No dice. Just not enough room for a 550 motor in there. It "might" could be made to fit, with some mods, but I can't remember the details now, and didn't want to start down that path, so just stuck the the 540 can motor. Works fine for me. 👍
@@michaelc3416 ok great thanks. This is a brand new rig, and the first time it smoked, it was a extreme crawl location and that too on 3S, yesterday it was nothing, and also was on 2S. Let me see if i can fit a Titan here. If not which HH 540 would you recommend, there are quite few options on there with different Ts like 12T, 21T, the crawl master and trail master etc, so it's kinda confusing. Thank you for replying.
@@Glenn.J Keep in mind, the NC's stock electronics aren't designed for 3S. So, unless you've upgraded the ESC I'd recommend sticking with 2S. As far as the HH motors... The TrailMaster series uses a 3 slot armature. The CrawlMaster series uses a 5 slot armature which makes them a bit smoother. A VERY general rule of thumb is that the number of turns used in a 3 slot is ROUGHLY double that of a 5 slot, for equivalent performance. So, say, a 3 slot TM 27T would be close to a five slot CM 13T. John has a ton of videos on his youtube channel that does a good job of explaining the differences in the motors. I'd probably either go with a 35T TM for close to stock performance, or a 27T TM if I wanted a little boost in motor speed. OR, I may go with either a 13T or 16T CM. There's also a chart on the HH site that allows you to cross reference his various offerings in terms of KV rating (engine speed). Just remember that generally speaking, the lower turn count motors are going to be more sensitive and prone to smoking if pushed too hard. Whatever motor you select, I highly recommend buying an IR temp gun and keep an eye on motor temps until you learn what temps you can expect under certain situations. And, make SURE you don't have any binding in the driveline anywhere. Too much drag in the axles will definitely make the motor work harder, heat up faster, and be more prone to just getting too hot and giving up the ghost.
I’m falling in love with these lightweight crawlers. The design is old but with modern lightweight plastics they are actually better than if they were all metal. All the weight is way down low. I absolutely love the ESC MOUNTING Position and I ACTUALLY BOUGHT a Servo mount to mount my ESC on the rear Axle of my Custom build. I did that AFTER seeing this car in a video. Great body too. Great video.
Could you please tell me the servo brand and model you swapped with stock night crawler servo. I think you said it came from another truck. But do you have recommendations. Also does the stock motor need a upgrade since its running worm gears. Ty. Love your videos
@@2fmrc do u still use your night crawler. I have a Capra but really like how smooth it drives. Was on the fence of getting one our not due to finding parts if it breaks. Hate losi for abanding vehicles. O well.
@@kevinhill2381 yeah I still have mine. Haven’t ran the 1/10s in awhile. I wish there were more upgrades and stuff for it but it does awesome just how it is really!
@@2fmrc I use to have the losi comp crawler but got it right as parts started to disappear. So I sold it. Kinda wish I just kept it. Even though it's not scale was very fun to run. Kind is why I was thinking of the nightcrawler see even though it doesn't have dig.
man you are doing exactly what ive been debating for a while with that thing. very nice capable rig and very simple in making it do so. thank you for the video!
You’ll have to try to shorten up your travel by moving the shock locations or run a shorter shock like I was with the Capra shocks. I also didn’t run the top links because they are a bit longer than the stock Losi ones and stretch it a bit too far for the stock driveshafts.
Well I actually sold this one awhile back. It’s a simple install. Just know that if you are running the stock shocks they will flex too much and the driveshafts will fall out. I was running shorter shocks so they worked great.
@@2fmrc Yeah, Not installing the tops just the bottom, Just seems like they are too long or something. Looks nothing like yours. I am very green at this so maybe I am doing something wrong.
Been eyeing this truck for a bit. Retail as of the post COVID pricing is now $349.99, but Horizon just put it on their Spring Madness sale for $110 off, so for $239.99 I couldn't resist! Have a new set of wheels and wheel weights, as well as the JConcepts Creeper body coming, and already have a better servo to install. Will give the stock tires a try and go from there... Need to look into the high clearance links a bit yet though. Also have an Axial 27T motor I may decide to stick in it just to see if it helps with wheel speed. Planning an LCG rig in the near future, but really looking forward to playing with this little thing as my first dedicated crawler rig. Thanks for your video for pushing me over the edge, as this looks like a damn capable little beginner rig for the money.
@@kentuckycornbread7908 that’s awesome! I actually work in Louisville. We should definitely go crawling sometime! I used some capra high clearance links for mine. They are the extended ones so they are a bit long for this truck. If running the stock shocks they won’t work because you get too much flex and the driveshafts will fall out. I ran some stock capra shocks on mine to shorten it up a bit. I think some regular Capra high clearance links would fit perfect. The added length of these will only work with shorter shocks. www.ebay.com/itm/Husky-Link-Extended-Hi-Clearance-Suspension-Links-for-Axial-Capra-/123966930526?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Hi mate…can you tell me if you used the original stock horizontal body mounting pins with this shell ? I am seeking a new body shell for my LNC already I have ordered one that did not fit real good. The 1/10 was right but the truck body was too wide and I had to really pull the shell sills in to attach to the horizontal posts and even then the whole shell kind of sat too high. So I am looking for a shell that is a bit narrower ….thanks
Dlux fab still makes some killer losi parts. I still have a og comp crawler and it will out crawl most anything. You can make awesome rigs out of these little things if you look around for parts. Good luck
OK ima get one I'm always late to the party. But after seeing this video ima go tap the saving account. Its on sale and my old ascender altho it has never let me down. She needs a back up. I'm not crazy about the body but I love the lights I crawl alot at night while camping with friends makes it so much more fun.. I'll probably try to put a jeep mj or xj body on it right off the start 🤔. Can't believe how much better it is then my stock ascender and it was like 340$ or something many years ago
My aunt and uncle have those and I have been working on a list of things for upgrades if they ever wanted to do so. first off the motors would be changed to a 390 instead of the 380 that is in them, switch out the stock ESC for a HW880 it is for a dual-motor setup, and go with 3S. you will have to mod the transmission but a 390 should fit. good luck!
OH yeah forgot the most important thing to change is the tires and I would go with the deepwoods for that, they are the best all-around tire I have seen. I am not sure how the hyrax would do in the mud so that is why I chose the deepwoods.
Hey Matt I ordered the links u used from the link you provided. They're too long. My driveshafts aren't even close to staying in. Anything I could be doing wrong?
You are going to need to shorten your travel on the suspension by either moving the shock location or running shorter shocks like I was with the Capra shocks. I also didn’t run the top links from the set because it extends it too far for the stock driveshafts. Sorry for the confusion. I’ve tried to edit the description to let people know that these require a shorter suspension setup to work.
Hey man, Can you tell me how far apart the body posts are for the Night Crawler SE? I have an old Proline body that was professionally painted that I won in a contest years ago and it has that same sort of side body post mounts and Im hoping the Night Crawler has similarly spaced body posts. TIA
Yeah I originally ran some 2.2 rc4wd genius tires on it. It did very well with them as well. I just always run 1.9s at this spot because it’s on such and incline but not huge gaps where the 2.2s are really needed. I like the 2.2s in the creek or places where a lot of clearance is needed usually.
Broooo you think i can add a front axle in back put a double servo and make it 4 wheel steer? Mounting esc in different part. I extended wheel base made it wider with 18mm spacers. Got different shockss i got a toyota body on it 😅.. comp wheels nsdrc servo. Have fish line weight on front servo 😅 the losi can crawl. Im also only running 2s but not focused on speed mostly grip and make it stick and like you say just hit proper line and you hang with the pack. I can almost do what fully comp capras are doing.
No if I roll them then they are lower near the skid. I put the arch near the skid for clearance and the lowest point near the axles so that by the time they are hitting the tires will catch and pull you over. I wish these links had one solid upward bend but they have two different bends in them.
Do you know if the creep body will fit like yours if we keep the stock LNC shocks and links instead of swapping em out with the Capra shocks and high clearance links ?
Just picked one of these up. Do I need metal gears or are the plastic transmission gears stout? What weights do u run in the front? I'm coming from the 1/24 scale to this.
I never changed any gears on mine and had no issues. The weights I run are usually wheel weights that bolt onto the hub of the wheels. Something like these amzn.to/3yrAYzK
@@2fmrc Realized the weight won't fit the stock wheels so I also ordered the injora 1.9 wheels . Looks like what you are running. Gonna run the stock tires with them for now.
Definitely my Capra! I just built a new one on frame rails and it’s probably my favorite crawler I’ve ever owned. There is just so much more aftermarket support for the Capra that it’s real simple to mod any way you like. It’s also very very capable out of the box.
Cool! I recently got a Losi Comp Crawler in a trade and immediatly swapped a modified Trophy Rat body with some scale accessories and Proline Swampers on SSD wheels. It is running a Mamba X/Castle combo and Reefs steering servo. Lovin' it, especially the front and rear dig 😎, but wishing there was a better parts availabilty for them and the Night Crawler.
Could you put a link to the body and a link to the tires, rims and wheel weights please? also is the esc and receiver separate? I'm thinking of upgrading it if I buy it to a quick run 1080 esc and a HH 27T brushed motor to give it just a bit more wheel speed? do you think that will work well? I appreciate your help. Great video!
The esc and motor are separate so a hobbywing 1080 would be a great esc to run in it! I swapped my pinion to get a bit more speed. Can’t remember the size off hand. It was just one I had laying around. Not sure about the motor but I’ve had really good luck with the 1080 esc! You can pick one up here! amzn.to/3ifW12i
I ordered the high clearance links and somehow they are not matching up. I have one side with very slight thread sticking out. Do you have to change the shocks out? I also put the upper links and now I don't know if it's completely out of whack. The stock shocks won't compress all the way. Thanks. If you can send me pictures that would be awesome I don't know if you have a Instagram or Facebook account that I can follow and maybe you could show me pictures of how you did yours in detail.
Hi there. I just bought an original team losi 1/10 race Roller crawler. I guess it's similar to this but from 2010 when they start came out. Id like to put a new body on it similar to yours. Can you just put any 1/10 scale truck body on and then trim it right back to allow the wheel flex etc ? Noting that these chassis have side mounting pins etc ? Thanks
Those S shaped links suck. If you turn them then there is a really low spot that sticks out below the skid just near the skid. Rather have the low spot near the tire where the tire will catch and pull over the rock so to me No they’re not upside down. I ran them both ways on my Capra and prefer this honestly. Best bet is to ditch these links though. Much better options out there now.
Great freaking video! So great to see this truck get the attention and compliments it deserves. I love mine and have been modding it a lot. I love the body you did and those wheels. 1.9s? I’ve been running 4 different sets of 2.2s...
Really appreciate that! Yes they are 1.9s and it does really well on them. Kinda helped lower it a bit. It’s an awesome little truck for sure. Really enjoying it.
I was running the duratrax deep woods in this vid. They do really well in most places. My tire of choice at the moment is the 1,9 trenchers. Love them at this exact spot I was crawling in this vid! And yes the driveshafts still fit fine. Just barely but they do lol. Never had one slide out on me even though it looked like it was a hair away. I was running a bit shorter shocks than stock though. With more articulation they may have slid out.
@@2fmrc Do u happen to remember what shocks u used. Btw I have many rig including Capra. But for some reason this rig just seems to be great for just crawling only. Do u happen to know if the old night crawler and comp crawler parts work for this rig. Was thinking of going brushless with close to same stock motor turn. For the bit more speed. But want to put on metal gears. Thanks
@@kevinhill2381 I think some of the old parts fit. I believe there is also some hardened worm gears you can get for it. The shocks I used were actually the stock shocks off my Capra. I never ran them on the Capra so I tossed them on the losi!
Thanks! The links are constantly rolling on me but I try to run them with the bend more toward the skid. Lowest point of them near the axle because by the time they are hitting at that point the tires will catch and pull you over. These have a couple bends to them. I would prefer them just have one large bend upward vs bending up,back down and sort of up again.
Hey man I have a roller in the mail, does this truck your driving have the hd 25t spool in the rear and the standard 21 up front giving it a little overdrive?
I know it's not alot and I usually like more over drive than most for turning radius and since that's all you can get from the parts they offer I'm debating on pulling the trigger on a rc4wd over/under drive transfer case. Thank for getting back to me
Definitely have to have foams on the 1/10 stuff for me. I run dual stage front and rear usually. Sometimes just in the front but most of the time both.
I am having a really hard time with my NC, motor keeps smoking. Thought this was only on 3S, but now confirmed even on 2S. Stock motor and esc. Do you know if a Titan 550 21T be a good alternative? Someone has it available here locally from his TRX6
They actually do work really well flipped. I run them both ways honestly. I can’t tell a major difference either way but I do flip them from time to time lol. In loose dirt and stuff I run them backwards a lot of times. Just seems like they dig better to me in the loose dirt and stuff.
This might be a dumb question but does having the shocks compressed at an angle like you have better or worsen the amount of travel the shock has? I have an scx24 with the double barrel shocks and was wondering if I should move them form the stock mounts. Thank you!
For this truck that’s just the angle they mount because of the smaller length of the chassis. On the scx24 I honestly just move mine around and see what performs best for each truck. Depending on shocks and overall truck setup some will work better angled like that and some will do better with a bit more straight up. I usually prefer them angled though myself. I also drop the shocks down to the frame rails on the scx24 often. Gives a bit more belly clearance for those sharp crest. Some people don’t like it and say it raises the cog but for me it can be offset with a little weight down low so I prefer more clearance in the belly.
I think more shock angle will lessens the effectiveness of the shock. Makes it feel softer and also gives it more travel since they now move in an arch while they compress. It is common on some of the competition crawlers to do this. If it is done correctly, it can improve your articulation. But it could also make the suspension too soft and spongy if installed at to much of an angle... like Matt said, it’s worth playing around with the mounting positions and see what works best for your truck, terrain, and driving style
It’s actually running the stock Capra shocks now. May go desert lizards or some custom big bores eventually. It does pretty well as it is though. May not change it lol
I HAVE A QUESTION.... So I'm pretty new to all this but I'm looking to buy a crawler around the $300 range. Would you recommend the Losi? Also, I found a 1991 4runner body I absolutely love (my first vehicle/crawler I ever had when I got my license) and I was wondering if it would work on this rc crawler? And if not what do you recommend? Axial build kit?
And tires and links to its to bad the only mod i was able to do to my mad torque 4x4 crawler is change the body to a grave digger body and raised the shock mounts and added shock clips for 4 inchs of bottem clearance.
Sorry. Just added the link to them in the description. Here they are! club5racing.com/husky-link-extended-hi-clearance-suspension-links-for-axial-capra/
Nice as usual! Just ordered the lizard to finish a Venom buggy build with the Surpass setup that started as a Deadbolt. Thanks for all your help with it by the way. For my second Hobby Grade rc I want to go 1/10th scale. But I don't want to have to start replacing things right away like with the Deadbolt. I ended up putting over $600 in that little buggy. But she's BAD ASS! What do you recommend?
I ordered those club 5 links based on this video review and the drive lines won’t stay in. WARNING to anyone planning to do the same. You’ll have driveline issues. /: $55 down a hole
I never had an issue. Did you leave the stock upper links? Also I’m running shorter shocks that limit the travel a bit so that may be your main issue. Ditch the junk stock shocks if you haven’t already and go a bit shorter and you’ll be fine.
@@ItsWaterTime I was actually just running a set of stock Capra shocks on it. They are a bit shorter than the stock losi ones so it don’t allow quite as much flex which keeps the driveshafts in.
They like to bind with the top links on this truck when flipped. Plus the way they are kinda an S shape when they are flipped the lowest point is near the skid and I prefer it to be back toward the tires where the tires will pull it on over an obstacle if they hit.
Do not buy this crawler!!! I got mine out of the box literally played with it indoors for five minutes and the drive shaft fell out and I lost a very small piece. I tried to talk to Losi about it they didn't want anything to do with it. Their quality control is garbage. Go with Traxxas or with a red cat Everest. You'll get your money's worth out of them. Losi's customer service is crap.
Yeah I blame it on Horizonhobby lol. They’ve destroyed everything basically. I never had any issues with mine but the no aftermarket support was just too much to deal with. I finally sold it and moved on.
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Great video man. I have 2 first gens and a comp crawler we love them.
Thanks! Pretty sweet little trucks for the money
Gotta say. I owned a few night crawlers and always sell them cause axial and trx4 is more appealing. But seeing the crawling capabilities of it. Makes me wanna keep the one I just acquired.
The night crawler gets a bad wrap but mine is stock other than a wheels and tires and 4mm axle hub extensions and it out performs all my axials and has now been my truck of choice for competitions . Had it 5 years and never broke a thing I love it just not much aftermarket support for it
People hate the worm gears but they provide more throttle control at low speeds, and better torque and drag brake. I see this as a plus I don't like using excessive wheel speed when crawling anyways. Everyone has their own style crawling, great video !
Yeah, I know this is an older video, but as a follow up to my last comment, yep... In stock form, it did ok, but was sloooowww AF. Stuck a set of Proline Trenchers in Predator compound mounted on Injora 1.9 beadlocks with 17mm hubs (hubs that come with wheels are 10mm, so these add 7mm to the track width on each side, and brass wheel weights on all four corners. Stock tire/wheel weighs 4.1oz. New tire/wheel/weight setup is 8oz each. Much more planted now. Then I threw in the cheap Axial 27T, a HW 1080 (for the 3S and 7.4V BEC) and an all SS gear 305oz servo. TOTALLY different animal! Still slow crawls just as well, but now has wheel speed for launching up steep inclines and hard bumping over obstacles. Also even has a trail speed above walking pace so can now be used as a trail truck in between obstacles without walking all over the back of the truck. It's actually a REALLY fun truck now, with just those simple and cheap mods. Might be even a little better with a HH Crawlmaster 550 13T, just for a bit more torque. Not that it's lacking now, but ya know.... ;-) Definitely a keeper for me!
I am having a really hard time with my NC, motor keeps smoking. Thought this was only on 3S, but now confirmed even on 2S. Stock motor and esc. Do you know if a Titan 550 21T be a good alternative? Someone has it available here locally from his TRX6
@@Glenn.J If it's smoking the motor on the stock electronics with 2S you may want to make sure you don't have any binding, or excessive drag anywhere in the drivetrain. I mean, these are brushed motors so won't last forever, especially if ran hard and hot and for longer periods. Use a temp gun to monitor your temps. But, under "normal use" I haven't found my setup to get excessively hot running a full 3S battery pack.
The 21T Titan would likely be a good alternative, IF you can make it fit. I can't say for sure on the Titan, but I did try to fit the Holmes Hobby 550 I had on hand. No dice. Just not enough room for a 550 motor in there. It "might" could be made to fit, with some mods, but I can't remember the details now, and didn't want to start down that path, so just stuck the the 540 can motor. Works fine for me. 👍
@@michaelc3416 ok great thanks. This is a brand new rig, and the first time it smoked, it was a extreme crawl location and that too on 3S, yesterday it was nothing, and also was on 2S. Let me see if i can fit a Titan here. If not which HH 540 would you recommend, there are quite few options on there with different Ts like 12T, 21T, the crawl master and trail master etc, so it's kinda confusing. Thank you for replying.
@@Glenn.J Keep in mind, the NC's stock electronics aren't designed for 3S. So, unless you've upgraded the ESC I'd recommend sticking with 2S. As far as the HH motors... The TrailMaster series uses a 3 slot armature. The CrawlMaster series uses a 5 slot armature which makes them a bit smoother. A VERY general rule of thumb is that the number of turns used in a 3 slot is ROUGHLY double that of a 5 slot, for equivalent performance. So, say, a 3 slot TM 27T would be close to a five slot CM 13T. John has a ton of videos on his youtube channel that does a good job of explaining the differences in the motors. I'd probably either go with a 35T TM for close to stock performance, or a 27T TM if I wanted a little boost in motor speed. OR, I may go with either a 13T or 16T CM. There's also a chart on the HH site that allows you to cross reference his various offerings in terms of KV rating (engine speed). Just remember that generally speaking, the lower turn count motors are going to be more sensitive and prone to smoking if pushed too hard. Whatever motor you select, I highly recommend buying an IR temp gun and keep an eye on motor temps until you learn what temps you can expect under certain situations. And, make SURE you don't have any binding in the driveline anywhere. Too much drag in the axles will definitely make the motor work harder, heat up faster, and be more prone to just getting too hot and giving up the ghost.
@@michaelc3416 i decided to go with a HH Crawlmaster expert 16T as a replacement, any recommendations what pinion 20T, 17T, 15T? (have these handy)
can we get another vid on this rig? i love this rig, and i love what you did to yours
I’m falling in love with these lightweight crawlers.
The design is old but with modern lightweight plastics they are actually better than if they were all metal.
All the weight is way down low.
I absolutely love the ESC MOUNTING Position and I ACTUALLY BOUGHT a Servo mount to mount my ESC on the rear Axle of my Custom build. I did that AFTER seeing this car in a video.
Great body too.
Great video.
Could you please tell me the servo brand and model you swapped with stock night crawler servo. I think you said it came from another truck. But do you have recommendations. Also does the stock motor need a upgrade since its running worm gears. Ty. Love your videos
Awesome wheels
Thanks!
Wow, your steering throw is amazing.
Siiick! I’m so tired of people building just for shelf queens or “full flex bro” but they can’t crawl worth a damn. Awesome rig man.
I’m definitely not gonna build it and let it sit lol. This rig has more flex than any of my rigs. It has about as much flex as I want lol
@@2fmrc do u still use your night crawler. I have a Capra but really like how smooth it drives. Was on the fence of getting one our not due to finding parts if it breaks. Hate losi for abanding vehicles. O well.
@@kevinhill2381 yeah I still have mine. Haven’t ran the 1/10s in awhile. I wish there were more upgrades and stuff for it but it does awesome just how it is really!
@@2fmrc I use to have the losi comp crawler but got it right as parts started to disappear. So I sold it. Kinda wish I just kept it. Even though it's not scale was very fun to run. Kind is why I was thinking of the nightcrawler see even though it doesn't have dig.
What wheel weights are you running in the front? Looking for something to add a bit to my wifes night crawler. Thanks
The body is proline?
It’s the jconcepts creep body. Cheaper than the proline lol
We’re did you get the front wheeel weights did you upgrade the tires
I got one of these today, Loving it so far! Might have to do that Club 5 to it !
It’s an awesome little truck for sure! Enjoy!!
Having trouble installing the club 5 high clearance. Any tips. Seems really long and it rolling the axles.
I agree. I’ve been having some trouble installing these they’re not a quick swap.
I dig it, especially with the JC body
man you are doing exactly what ive been debating for a while with that thing. very nice capable rig and very simple in making it do so. thank you for the video!
You’ll have to try to shorten up your travel by moving the shock locations or run a shorter shock like I was with the Capra shocks. I also didn’t run the top links because they are a bit longer than the stock Losi ones and stretch it a bit too far for the stock driveshafts.
Can you do a video on how to install the links?
Well I actually sold this one awhile back. It’s a simple install. Just know that if you are running the stock shocks they will flex too much and the driveshafts will fall out. I was running shorter shocks so they worked great.
@@2fmrc Yeah I bought a set of links and it does not seem to be working out for me. It rolls the axle.
@@ikeman828 don’t install the tops or it will
@@2fmrc Yeah, Not installing the tops just the bottom, Just seems like they are too long or something. Looks nothing like yours. I am very green at this so maybe I am doing something wrong.
@@2fmrc The axle rolls backwards with the bottom links installed.
Been eyeing this truck for a bit. Retail as of the post COVID pricing is now $349.99, but Horizon just put it on their Spring Madness sale for $110 off, so for $239.99 I couldn't resist! Have a new set of wheels and wheel weights, as well as the JConcepts Creeper body coming, and already have a better servo to install. Will give the stock tires a try and go from there... Need to look into the high clearance links a bit yet though. Also have an Axial 27T motor I may decide to stick in it just to see if it helps with wheel speed. Planning an LCG rig in the near future, but really looking forward to playing with this little thing as my first dedicated crawler rig. Thanks for your video for pushing me over the edge, as this looks like a damn capable little beginner rig for the money.
What part of Kentucky are you in
I’m about an hour south of Louisville. You in Ky?
I live in Mount Washington Kentucky and would really love to know what links you used to get parts
@@kentuckycornbread7908 that’s awesome! I actually work in Louisville. We should definitely go crawling sometime! I used some capra high clearance links for mine. They are the extended ones so they are a bit long for this truck. If running the stock shocks they won’t work because you get too much flex and the driveshafts will fall out. I ran some stock capra shocks on mine to shorten it up a bit. I think some regular Capra high clearance links would fit perfect. The added length of these will only work with shorter shocks.
www.ebay.com/itm/Husky-Link-Extended-Hi-Clearance-Suspension-Links-for-Axial-Capra-/123966930526?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Where did u get the wheel weights or they are integrated on rims?
Hi mate…can you tell me if you used the original stock horizontal body mounting pins with this shell ? I am seeking a new body shell for my LNC already I have ordered one that did not fit real good. The 1/10 was right but the truck body was too wide and I had to really pull the shell sills in to attach to the horizontal posts and even then the whole shell kind of sat too high. So I am looking for a shell that is a bit narrower ….thanks
Yep I used everything stock with this one. It fit really well.
I love my NightCrawler! I run the Creep body also. My SCX10II can't compare
Crazy huh? It runs as good as a lot of built capras in the area. People can’t believe how good it is for being almost stock lol
I put my $150 Facebook marketplace find you against my brothers $2k Capra build and I was keeping up if not out crawling him in most circumstances
How do you guys have your mounts set up? I got the creep body as well and cant seem to get it to fit the way i want it to!
I still run my nightcrawler i don't think they're is or was a straight axle offering with more clearance than these on the nightcrawler
Dlux fab still makes some killer losi parts. I still have a og comp crawler and it will out crawl most anything. You can make awesome rigs out of these little things if you look around for parts. Good luck
Just picked up an og night crawler. Pretty awesome for an old crawler.
Hey know this was a long time ago but what size tire is on it
OK ima get one I'm always late to the party. But after seeing this video ima go tap the saving account. Its on sale and my old ascender altho it has never let me down. She needs a back up. I'm not crazy about the body but I love the lights I crawl alot at night while camping with friends makes it so much more fun.. I'll probably try to put a jeep mj or xj body on it right off the start 🤔. Can't believe how much better it is then my stock ascender and it was like 340$ or something many years ago
Heck yeah! Better late than never!
Awesome truck🤩👏
Love my Ridge Rock, would love to see what kind of upgrades you do if you get one.
I have one. Already did a couple little things to it. Very capable little truck for sure!
My aunt and uncle have those and I have been working on a list of things for upgrades if they ever wanted to do so. first off the motors would be changed to a 390 instead of the 380 that is in them, switch out the stock ESC for a HW880 it is for a dual-motor setup, and go with 3S. you will have to mod the transmission but a 390 should fit. good luck!
OH yeah forgot the most important thing to change is the tires and I would go with the deepwoods for that, they are the best all-around tire I have seen. I am not sure how the hyrax would do in the mud so that is why I chose the deepwoods.
Hey Matt I ordered the links u used from the link you provided. They're too long. My driveshafts aren't even close to staying in. Anything I could be doing wrong?
You are going to need to shorten your travel on the suspension by either moving the shock location or running shorter shocks like I was with the Capra shocks. I also didn’t run the top links from the set because it extends it too far for the stock driveshafts. Sorry for the confusion. I’ve tried to edit the description to let people know that these require a shorter suspension setup to work.
@@2fmrc OK. Maybe I'll try to sell these then and find a set the same length. Thanks 👍
Can I get a link to all the specific for the upgrade I have the same truck with portal axles front and rear
Where did you order the body from?
I used this one
bit.ly/3Ve2B9s
Thanks for the info on the body. I just bought the night crawler yesterday and im already wanting to change the body.
@@dustinleonard9918 awesome! It’s a really good truck. I liked it much better with the creep body but I did kinda miss the lights.
hello....i like your idea. Malaysia Crawler Fans;
Thanks!
Hey man, Can you tell me how far apart the body posts are for the Night Crawler SE? I have an old Proline body that was professionally painted that I won in a contest years ago and it has that same sort of side body post mounts and Im hoping the Night Crawler has similarly spaced body posts. TIA
Old faithful, couldn’t agree more with your assessment! 😄👍🏻
Been debating on getting one myself, because nobody around here runs them either and the lack of aftermarket stuff
Yeah I wish there was a bit more aftermarket stuff for it but at least it’s not really needed too bad. The thing has been solid so far lol
@@2fmrc that’s awesome I might have to pick one up
Awesome! Thanks for the update...Have you tried 2.2s just for SnGs?
Yeah I originally ran some 2.2 rc4wd genius tires on it. It did very well with them as well. I just always run 1.9s at this spot because it’s on such and incline but not huge gaps where the 2.2s are really needed. I like the 2.2s in the creek or places where a lot of clearance is needed usually.
Broooo you think i can add a front axle in back put a double servo and make it 4 wheel steer? Mounting esc in different part.
I extended wheel base made it wider with 18mm spacers. Got different shockss i got a toyota body on it 😅.. comp wheels nsdrc servo. Have fish line weight on front servo 😅 the losi can crawl. Im also only running 2s but not focused on speed mostly grip and make it stick and like you say just hit proper line and you hang with the pack. I can almost do what fully comp capras are doing.
You can definitely add some rear steer! Be pretty easy really. These things can hang for sure!
@@2fmrc yeah it would be nice. Going to try it. Maybe get it comp ready :)
Aren't the lower links installed upside down? Bent to improve under link clearance...
No if I roll them then they are lower near the skid. I put the arch near the skid for clearance and the lowest point near the axles so that by the time they are hitting the tires will catch and pull you over. I wish these links had one solid upward bend but they have two different bends in them.
Do you know if the creep body will fit like yours if we keep the stock LNC shocks and links instead of swapping em out with the Capra shocks and high clearance links ?
Awesome rig. I’m working on a Nightcrawler rig and there’s one issue I can’t solve. How do you reduce the body roll?
That’s got a lot to do with the worm gears I think. I ended up with much shorter shocks than the stock ones and it seemed to help quite a bit.
@@2fmrc great thanks
We need upgrades
I agree!
Just picked one of these up. Do I need metal gears or are the plastic transmission gears stout? What weights do u run in the front? I'm coming from the 1/24 scale to this.
I never changed any gears on mine and had no issues. The weights I run are usually wheel weights that bolt onto the hub of the wheels. Something like these
amzn.to/3yrAYzK
@@2fmrc Thanks!
@@2fmrc Realized the weight won't fit the stock wheels so I also ordered the injora 1.9 wheels . Looks like what you are running. Gonna run the stock tires with them for now.
What body is that
if you had to pick one to buy, this or a capra...which would you get? I'm looking to step up from an scx10.3
Definitely my Capra! I just built a new one on frame rails and it’s probably my favorite crawler I’ve ever owned. There is just so much more aftermarket support for the Capra that it’s real simple to mod any way you like. It’s also very very capable out of the box.
Cool! I recently got a Losi Comp Crawler in a trade and immediatly swapped a modified Trophy Rat body with some scale accessories and Proline Swampers on SSD wheels. It is running a Mamba X/Castle combo and Reefs steering servo. Lovin' it, especially the front and rear dig 😎, but wishing there was a better parts availabilty for them and the Night Crawler.
Could you put a link to the body and a link to the tires, rims and wheel weights please? also is the esc and receiver separate? I'm thinking of upgrading it if I buy it to a quick run 1080 esc and a HH 27T brushed motor to give it just a bit more wheel speed? do you think that will work well? I appreciate your help. Great video!
I’ll definitely get ya some links! So the body can be found here
bit.ly/3ibqhLz
The wheels are found here!
amzn.to/3pjvDpm
Deep woods tires found here
bit.ly/3pjvXEA
Wheel weights for the wheels found here
amzn.to/34KT4Pa
The esc and motor are separate so a hobbywing 1080 would be a great esc to run in it! I swapped my pinion to get a bit more speed. Can’t remember the size off hand. It was just one I had laying around. Not sure about the motor but I’ve had really good luck with the 1080 esc! You can pick one up here!
amzn.to/3ifW12i
I ordered the high clearance links and somehow they are not matching up. I have one side with very slight thread sticking out. Do you have to change the shocks out? I also put the upper links and now I don't know if it's completely out of whack. The stock shocks won't compress all the way. Thanks. If you can send me pictures that would be awesome I don't know if you have a Instagram or Facebook account that I can follow and maybe you could show me pictures of how you did yours in detail.
I run MambaX 2280 brushless. Its unbeatable
Nice!
Where do i get the body? Want it! 😅
Hi there. I just bought an original team losi 1/10 race Roller crawler. I guess it's similar to this but from 2010 when they start came out. Id like to put a new body on it similar to yours. Can you just put any 1/10 scale truck body on and then trim it right back to allow the wheel flex etc ? Noting that these chassis have side mounting pins etc ? Thanks
What shocks you recommend for this nightcrawler and wheels. And the lower linkage what was it for the Capra?
Your links are upside down
Those S shaped links suck. If you turn them then there is a really low spot that sticks out below the skid just near the skid. Rather have the low spot near the tire where the tire will catch and pull over the rock so to me No they’re not upside down. I ran them both ways on my Capra and prefer this honestly. Best bet is to ditch these links though. Much better options out there now.
@@2fmrc sorry I race lcg pro comp I'm use to high clearance links
Hey what is the belly height. I'm working on my build and you have that thing pretty dialed
I’ll have to check it and let ya know. It does really well!
Great video!
Great freaking video!
So great to see this truck get the attention and compliments it deserves.
I love mine and have been modding it a lot.
I love the body you did and those wheels. 1.9s?
I’ve been running 4 different sets of 2.2s...
Really appreciate that! Yes they are 1.9s and it does really well on them. Kinda helped lower it a bit. It’s an awesome little truck for sure. Really enjoying it.
Nice truck. Kinda wish I had pick up that one I saw.
What tires are u using and with the club 5 Capra high clearance links does the drive shaft dog bones still fit. Thanks
I was running the duratrax deep woods in this vid. They do really well in most places. My tire of choice at the moment is the 1,9 trenchers. Love them at this exact spot I was crawling in this vid! And yes the driveshafts still fit fine. Just barely but they do lol. Never had one slide out on me even though it looked like it was a hair away. I was running a bit shorter shocks than stock though. With more articulation they may have slid out.
@@2fmrc Do u happen to remember what shocks u used. Btw I have many rig including Capra. But for some reason this rig just seems to be great for just crawling only. Do u happen to know if the old night crawler and comp crawler parts work for this rig. Was thinking of going brushless with close to same stock motor turn. For the bit more speed. But want to put on metal gears. Thanks
@@kevinhill2381 I think some of the old parts fit. I believe there is also some hardened worm gears you can get for it. The shocks I used were actually the stock shocks off my Capra. I never ran them on the Capra so I tossed them on the losi!
@@2fmrc Aww very cool. I still have my old Capra shocks as well. Thanks a ton for your reply. Love your channel btw. Keep crawling my friend.
@@kevinhill2381 I appreciate that! Let me know how the build goes!!
Nice rundown and review!!
Shouldn’t the links be other way so bend is up for break overs? Nice run video too, some very cool lines!!
Thanks! The links are constantly rolling on me but I try to run them with the bend more toward the skid. Lowest point of them near the axle because by the time they are hitting at that point the tires will catch and pull you over. These have a couple bends to them. I would prefer them just have one large bend upward vs bending up,back down and sort of up again.
Where’d you get the body from?
bit.ly/3Ve2B9s
Hey man I have a roller in the mail, does this truck your driving have the hd 25t spool in the rear and the standard 21 up front giving it a little overdrive?
I haven’t changed any gearing on this one so it’s all stock. Some overdrive would be nice though I’m sure!
I know it's not alot and I usually like more over drive than most for turning radius and since that's all you can get from the parts they offer I'm debating on pulling the trigger on a rc4wd over/under drive transfer case. Thank for getting back to me
Does the tire “flex” or form over rocks better with or without foams
Definitely have to have foams on the 1/10 stuff for me. I run dual stage front and rear usually. Sometimes just in the front but most of the time both.
@@2fmrc appreciate it
I am having a really hard time with my NC, motor keeps smoking. Thought this was only on 3S, but now confirmed even on 2S. Stock motor and esc. Do you know if a Titan 550 21T be a good alternative? Someone has it available here locally from his TRX6
Would those tires work better if the treads were reversed. Just curious?
They actually do work really well flipped. I run them both ways honestly. I can’t tell a major difference either way but I do flip them from time to time lol. In loose dirt and stuff I run them backwards a lot of times. Just seems like they dig better to me in the loose dirt and stuff.
@@2fmrc What scale is that truck? If you mentioned it in the video, forgive me...
@@ericpohlman5131 it’s a 1/10
I dig this!👍
That truck looks sick 👌
This might be a dumb question but does having the shocks compressed at an angle like you have better or worsen the amount of travel the shock has? I have an scx24 with the double barrel shocks and was wondering if I should move them form the stock mounts. Thank you!
For this truck that’s just the angle they mount because of the smaller length of the chassis. On the scx24 I honestly just move mine around and see what performs best for each truck. Depending on shocks and overall truck setup some will work better angled like that and some will do better with a bit more straight up. I usually prefer them angled though myself. I also drop the shocks down to the frame rails on the scx24 often. Gives a bit more belly clearance for those sharp crest. Some people don’t like it and say it raises the cog but for me it can be offset with a little weight down low so I prefer more clearance in the belly.
I think more shock angle will lessens the effectiveness of the shock. Makes it feel softer and also gives it more travel since they now move in an arch while they compress. It is common on some of the competition crawlers to do this. If it is done correctly, it can improve your articulation. But it could also make the suspension too soft and spongy if installed at to much of an angle...
like Matt said, it’s worth playing around with the mounting positions and see what works best for your truck, terrain, and driving style
Thank you! What are the extensions with the switch on your scx24 called I cannot the them on amazon . Thank you!
@@derekkelley6445 here ya go!
Apex RC Products RC Remote Electronic AUX Channel On/Off Switch #9025 www.amazon.com/dp/B07BKSGW3D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_M8DSSSPGX5450VB638Y6
@@2fmrc Thank ya bunches!
Put capra shocks on there
It’s actually running the stock Capra shocks now. May go desert lizards or some custom big bores eventually. It does pretty well as it is though. May not change it lol
@@2fmrc how cool! I did the pen spring mod to the front only. Super stiff springs in rear. Will help a lot as well
Well done!
Thanks!
I HAVE A QUESTION.... So I'm pretty new to all this but I'm looking to buy a crawler around the $300 range. Would you recommend the Losi? Also, I found a 1991 4runner body I absolutely love (my first vehicle/crawler I ever had when I got my license) and I was wondering if it would work on this rc crawler? And if not what do you recommend? Axial build kit?
And tires and links to its to bad the only mod i was able to do to my mad torque 4x4 crawler is change the body to a grave digger body and raised the shock mounts and added shock clips for 4 inchs of bottem clearance.
How do i get those lower links
Sorry. Just added the link to them in the description. Here they are!
club5racing.com/husky-link-extended-hi-clearance-suspension-links-for-axial-capra/
Thank you. If you have any build videos of this would be very interested in them .buying a nightcrawler Monday and not a fan of the stock body.
Great vid and review my rc friend 👍 SUBBED
Thanks so much! Let me know if there is anything you’d like to see. I try my best lol
@@2fmrc just keep up the great content bro 🤜💥🤛
Nice as usual!
Just ordered the lizard to finish a Venom buggy build with the Surpass setup that started as a Deadbolt. Thanks for all your help with it by the way. For my second Hobby Grade rc I want to go 1/10th scale. But I don't want to have to start replacing things right away like with the Deadbolt. I ended up putting over $600 in that little buggy. But she's BAD ASS! What do you recommend?
Those are 1.9 wheels?
Yes. Amazon specials!
I ordered those club 5 links based on this video review and the drive lines won’t stay in. WARNING to anyone planning to do the same. You’ll have driveline issues. /: $55 down a hole
I never had an issue. Did you leave the stock upper links? Also I’m running shorter shocks that limit the travel a bit so that may be your main issue. Ditch the junk stock shocks if you haven’t already and go a bit shorter and you’ll be fine.
@@2fmrc I have stock shocks still. And kept the stock upper links. It’ slips out just enough not to work. What shocks did you go with?
@@ItsWaterTime I was actually just running a set of stock Capra shocks on it. They are a bit shorter than the stock losi ones so it don’t allow quite as much flex which keeps the driveshafts in.
@@2fmrc I’ll have to try that. Thanks!
Flip your bottom links over mate
They like to bind with the top links on this truck when flipped. Plus the way they are kinda an S shape when they are flipped the lowest point is near the skid and I prefer it to be back toward the tires where the tires will pull it on over an obstacle if they hit.
How does this stack up to today's standards ?
Got that 69 👍 like in! Lol. Great video
You may have just sold me
Do not buy this crawler!!! I got mine out of the box literally played with it indoors for five minutes and the drive shaft fell out and I lost a very small piece. I tried to talk to Losi about it they didn't want anything to do with it. Their quality control is garbage. Go with Traxxas or with a red cat Everest. You'll get your money's worth out of them. Losi's customer service is crap.
Yeah I blame it on Horizonhobby lol. They’ve destroyed everything basically. I never had any issues with mine but the no aftermarket support was just too much to deal with. I finally sold it and moved on.
@@2fmrc sucks Because they make a lot of cool stuff.
@@jasonbyrd5150 yeah since they started buying out all these companies they’ve drove them in the ground lol
@@2fmrc I know exactly how that is I've left three jobs after they went corporate and strangled all the goodness out of the company..