This is one of my favorite scenes from School Ties. Starring one of my favorite actors: Cole Hauser. Who is the Cheater? Also, don't forget to catch Cole Monday nights in K-Ville on Fox at 9PM.
It blew my mind when I realized that he was Rip Wheeler. I haven’t watched the show but I have seen clips on TH-cam and wondered why I know this dude…the black hair and beard had me fooled
From the moment David entered St. Matthew's Dillon was jealous of David. He couldn't belive that a "Charity" Case could come from such a humble background and outshine him in everything. From Academics, to Sports, to having Sally Wheeler, David didn't miss a beat. Dillon on the other hand, whines to David about how everyone expects so much from him and how he can't live up to his Family's Expectations. That is so Kennedyesque of him.
@@pleasedroses3811 I wouldn't be surprised. He had such a challenging life. Walking Kathleen (Bobby's Daughter) down the aisle when Ted Jr., was getting his leg amputated, then when Bobby's children got into trouble, he had to bail them out, then looking out for Caroline & John Jr., and trying to negotiate when Jackie was planning to marry Onassis, he was like the Fredo Corleone, of the Family.
Dillon didn’t want to admit that Sally wasn’t into him, although I agree with some fans that it wasn’t nice of David to go after a girl who Charlie liked. I remember kids who came from Upstanding Families who were under Dillon’s type of pressure. A bad grade or failing in sports would put them in the doghouse for awhile. Oh, and they HAD to get into the best colleges, too.
The way Dillon presented his accusation makes it obvious he is lying: "This isn't easy for me to say and I know it's going to disappoint some of you". Please, Dillon was leading the hazing against Green and those guys knew it or were part of it. It would be very easy for him to say and he knew the guys wouldn't be disappointed at all. Just from that it should have been clear Dillon was lying and Green was telling the truth.
Exactly! It's because of that I wish they showed the final count of the votes. For example, was it 9 to 7? Or 11 to 5? Everybody knew Dillon cheated but the only certain votes on David's behalf was Van Kelt, Conners, Reese and the guy with white shirt who said "three".
@@Sisyphus27 No. My point is that those guys would not have been disappointed to hear that Green was cheating. That was the dead giveaway that Dillon was lying.
These guys should have known that David wouldn't dare cheat. He had too much to lose if he did. Unlike the others, he wasn't a legacy of a Ivy League School.
While watching this scene, I couldn't help but picture Jason Bourne beating the crap out of Charlie Dillon, lol. Who would've thought Matt Damon would go from a role like this to Bourne?
The Fellows talk about how they busted their butts for four years conveniently forgetting that David has to work just as hard. Keeping his Grades up, leading the School to the Championship and then waiting on these "Pr@cks" at Dinnertime. Also those guys should have had a Two Column Chart. Show that David achieved as opposed to Dillon and not use his Family name whatsoever.
@@pleasedroses3811 You've got a point there. Also The Coach in his own way "Used" David to help The School win a Championship Game. These College Coaches are very horrible to their proteges.
It kind of reminds me of "Scent Of A Woman" where George Willis Jr., "Knows" his Friends Harry Havemeyer, Trent Potter and Jimmy Jameson did the joke on Mr. Trask's Car. During the Inquest he did everything to keep quiet but he broke down and "Sang" like a Canary because his Father made him when he "questioned" him at home. He wouldn't help a Scholarship Student over his Friends.
My absolute favourite movie of all time, no joke. I have a part-time job at a movie theater and on our name tags under ur name they write what ur favourite movie is and i have that on there :)
Yes. Look at Diner (1982), alot of up and coming Actors appeared in that movie. Daniel Stern, Steve Guttenburg, Mickey Rourke, Tim Daly, Paul Riser, and Kevin Bacon. Sadly their lives behind the camera wasn't happily ever after. Mickey Rourke could have been big were it not for his addictions. He reminds me of UK Actor Aiden Gilley from The Wire (US) Game Of Thrones & Queer As Folk (UK).
What's up with people calling Mcgoo ugly and a freak? He's no where near ugly just nerdy and a jerk that's all. In fact, if you watch the entire movie he looks fine
Kind of ironic that the one being the bully and defending Damon will in a few years become part of an original cast for an amazing musical where his character happens to be......Jewish.
Amazes me that people of that time period had such a resentment towards Jews. David Green was a good guy, and most of them truly knew it, they just can't bring themselves to admit it.
Because dillon was his roommate for 4 years and he has barely known david for like half a year he felt he had to protect dillon because of loyalty or something
He was being loyal but seeing some of the others and how they acted and observing Dylan his true colors and how unfair David was being treated ...x x in the end doing the right thing one out he wanted Dylan to not put him in this position and tell the truth hoping it wouldnt go so fair..x x
I'm ot sure but when they did The Restaurant Scene the Lady who played Sally Wheeler's Mother was also in Carol as Harge Aird's "Mother" who knew her Daughter In Law was "Different".
@bluecatky BTW-My son goes to an Ivy League School-University of Pennsylvania. He has said it's called "Jewniversity of Pennsylasia" because of the number of Jews and Asians that attend. So much for "intelligent, college bound young guys". This is 2011 and bigotry and ignorance still reign supreme.
The Boy with the Dark Hair at 3:44 should mind his own business, he's not even in their inner circle. He talks about how they busted their butts for Four Years and while there's alot of truth in that fact, David had to work just as hard. He's Scholarship, he wasn't born with a Silver Spoon in his Mouth, and he had to Wait Tables on those guys, which wasn't easy. Also it was because of David they finally won The Football Championship. It's 180% but it reminds me of Maile Misajon (Mylee Misahon) from the US Popstars Group Eden's Crush who didn't go through the intense auditions that the others did but had to learn everything quicker with less time, One Week to be exact.
@bluecatky "Even in the 1950's"? Several years ago I was contracting with a person to paint my house. (No, not Ivy League) But-we started a conversation, and he made a comment about a past client of his "jewing him down". I was pretty shocked and wondered if I hadn't had a clearly Italian last name (married name) would he have made that comment. But that was in 2002 (or so). I ended up putting on siding my house instead of painting it, and I never had to deal with the racist ass again.
What's annoys me about this scene is that why do they bring up Greene's Jewish background? Why can't they accept that he kept it to himself? Isn't that why there's first amendment and choices in the law of the United States?
wondered that myself, searched IMDB the other night, there are a number of minor characters with no actor pictures attached to them but i didn't feel like trying to look up their individual names
4:18 I'll bet those 2 students got detention for that racket and that the guy in the left did as well for calling Collins a Bigot. Now that was very, very rude!
@Lisa4174 Awww, I'm sorry about the way your son is being treated but trust me, he's going to do very well for himself in life because he wants it badly enough. Today's College Kids are too spoiled for my taste. It's all about parties and not enough about academics.
I have to watch Rent after I watch this movie. The actor that plays Magoo is such a terrible character and his character, in Rent, is so nice and friendly.
I like to contrast 3 of the guys in this movie from their characters in Dazed and Confused a yr later: Mcgoo does a 180, he's the nicest character in the film. Conners and Chesty are 2 of the biggest assholes in D & C and are as far from academics as one can be, with the latter flunking 12th grade.
I loved him in Rent. That movie redeemed him for me. I dislike the character of McGoo more than I did Matt Damon's character. Just imagine if those two characters met. His character, in Rent, was Jewish and had homosexual friends. I don't think that McGoo would have approved.
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The whole "sitting around the table, voting" is an obvious reference to the movie 12 ANGRY MEN.
Detectivefiction I thought the same thing
And that's what I love about it
Love the speech by Cole Hauser. First time I ever seen and dug him ever since. I’m glad he’s finally getting his due in Yellowstone. Such a bad ass!!
He was also a beast in “Dazed and Confused!”
It blew my mind when I realized that he was Rip Wheeler. I haven’t watched the show but I have seen clips on TH-cam and wondered why I know this dude…the black hair and beard had me fooled
Not just Cole, the entire f*ckin cast...
The fact that they suspected Conners before Green means there's still hope...except for Magoo.
But even Magoo accused Connors at first.
From the moment David entered St. Matthew's Dillon was jealous of David. He couldn't belive that a "Charity" Case could come from such a humble background and outshine him in everything. From Academics, to Sports, to having Sally Wheeler, David didn't miss a beat. Dillon on the other hand, whines to David about how everyone expects so much from him and how he can't live up to his Family's Expectations. That is so Kennedyesque of him.
I think that Dillon was supposed to be the Ted Kennedy to his brother's JFK.
The Kennedy's were Catholic. In the 1950s, they were treated only marginally better at best than Jews at WASPy boarding schools.
@@pleasedroses3811 I wouldn't be surprised. He had such a challenging life. Walking Kathleen (Bobby's Daughter) down the aisle when Ted Jr., was getting his leg amputated, then when Bobby's children got into trouble, he had to bail them out, then looking out for Caroline & John Jr., and trying to negotiate when Jackie was planning to marry Onassis, he was like the Fredo Corleone, of the Family.
Dillon didn’t want to admit that Sally wasn’t into him, although I agree with some fans that it wasn’t nice of David to go after a girl who Charlie liked.
I remember kids who came from Upstanding Families who were under Dillon’s type of pressure. A bad grade or failing in sports would put them in the doghouse for awhile. Oh, and they HAD to get into the best colleges, too.
I love McGoo's bigoted circular reasoning at 3:07 "No one ever asked him (if he was Jewish) because no one had any idea because he lied!"
McGoo is Adolf Hitler reincarnated.
How can he make that reasoning? David didn't lie outright about being Jewish; he simply kept it to himself.
It's the same circular definition that mentally ill people use when they try to explain how a man can become a woman 😂
Yep, he dug in and rationalized his own BS
The way Dillon presented his accusation makes it obvious he is lying: "This isn't easy for me to say and I know it's going to disappoint some of you". Please, Dillon was leading the hazing against Green and those guys knew it or were part of it. It would be very easy for him to say and he knew the guys wouldn't be disappointed at all. Just from that it should have been clear Dillon was lying and Green was telling the truth.
Exactly! It's because of that I wish they showed the final count of the votes. For example, was it 9 to 7? Or 11 to 5? Everybody knew Dillon cheated but the only certain votes on David's behalf was Van Kelt, Conners, Reese and the guy with white shirt who said "three".
@@MrEvolution513. Conners seemed to sense right away that it was Dillon who cheated.
Why wouldn't they have been disappointed at all if Dillon had confessed to cheating?
@@Sisyphus27 No. My point is that those guys would not have been disappointed to hear that Green was cheating. That was the dead giveaway that Dillon was lying.
@@tonyc7301 I thought he meant it in the sense that they would be disappointed in him for not pointing a finger at David sooner
Love Cole Hauser in this scene.
This is a very underrated 90”s movie. All the future star power. Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Brendan Fraizer, Cole Hauser, And Chris O”Donald
Cole Hauser was and still is HOT. He always made a remarkable villain and a drop dead gorgeous protagonist
It got me so mad when this scene happened. I was yelling at the screen "it was Dillon!" Lol 😂
These guys should have known that David wouldn't dare cheat. He had too much to lose if he did. Unlike the others, he wasn't a legacy of a Ivy League School.
My uncle Luke plays a guy named Rick. He’s the guy who said “screw up a a couple of assignments”. At 0:08
Matt Damon Is sooo Cute!!!
Greene shot himself in the foot by confronting Dillon earlier. He already knew Dillon was a snake for exposing his secret
That did not make any sense to me. Getting a big shot like Dillon into trouble would not have gotten a working class guy like David very far.
How did he shoot himself in the foot by confronting Dillon earlier? Because it gave Dillon the incentive to turn the accusation on David?
While watching this scene, I couldn't help but picture Jason Bourne beating the crap out of Charlie Dillon, lol. Who would've thought Matt Damon would go from a role like this to Bourne?
Cinematic Galaxy his agent probably
The Fellows talk about how they busted their butts for four years conveniently forgetting that David has to work just as hard. Keeping his Grades up, leading the School to the Championship and then waiting on these "Pr@cks" at Dinnertime. Also those guys should have had a Two Column Chart. Show that David achieved as opposed to Dillon and not use his Family name whatsoever.
David would never be anything more than a Working Class Average Joe to these guys. It's coming out now that they never truly respected him.
@@pleasedroses3811 You've got a point there. Also The Coach in his own way "Used" David to help The School win a Championship Game. These College Coaches are very horrible to their proteges.
Magoo wants David gone because he's afraid of getting his ass kicked. 😅
He also insulted Reese and Connors, both football players. Not sure how he is still alive.
@@bluecatky Without his bodyguard, Chesty, how will he still be alive?
It kind of reminds me of "Scent Of A Woman" where George Willis Jr., "Knows" his Friends Harry Havemeyer, Trent Potter and Jimmy Jameson did the joke on Mr. Trask's Car. During the Inquest he did everything to keep quiet but he broke down and "Sang" like a Canary because his Father made him when he "questioned" him at home. He wouldn't help a Scholarship Student over his Friends.
My absolute favourite movie of all time, no joke. I have a part-time job at a movie theater and on our name tags under ur name they write what ur favourite movie is and i have that on there :)
Gotta admit.. while this was a great movie, it gives me additional joy that a lot of these guys made it big..
Who know back then the stars some if them would become.
Yes. Look at Diner (1982), alot of up and coming Actors appeared in that movie. Daniel Stern, Steve Guttenburg, Mickey Rourke, Tim Daly, Paul Riser, and Kevin Bacon. Sadly their lives behind the camera wasn't happily ever after. Mickey Rourke could have been big were it not for his addictions. He reminds me of UK Actor Aiden Gilley from The Wire (US) Game Of Thrones & Queer As Folk (UK).
Quietly a fantastic movie
When Brendan Fraser can learn how to get along with Matthew Damon
What's up with people calling Mcgoo ugly and a freak? He's no where near ugly just nerdy and a jerk that's all. In fact, if you watch the entire movie he looks fine
Dillon did.
Matt Damon makes a good villain too.
Kind of ironic that the one being the bully and defending Damon will in a few years become part of an original cast for an amazing musical where his character happens to be......Jewish.
Are you talking about Anthony Rapp in Rent?
@@needles1987 Yes.
2 centuries earlier & such a heated dispute would have been settled via a rapier duel! A fight to the finish😜😜😜😃☺
Amazes me that people of that time period had such a resentment towards Jews. David Green was a good guy, and most of them truly knew it, they just can't bring themselves to admit it.
Look at the left today. They are chanting for the murder of 8 million Jews in Israel today
Why do you think Van Keltz didn't tell everyone that he also saw Dillon cheat?
Because dillon was his roommate for 4 years and he has barely known david for like half a year he felt he had to protect dillon because of loyalty or something
He was being loyal but seeing some of the others and how they acted and observing Dylan his true colors and how unfair David was being treated ...x x in the end doing the right thing one out he wanted Dylan to not put him in this position and tell the truth hoping it wouldnt go so fair..x x
I'm ot sure but when they did The Restaurant Scene the Lady who played Sally Wheeler's Mother was also in Carol as Harge Aird's "Mother" who knew her Daughter In Law was "Different".
@bluecatky BTW-My son goes to an Ivy League School-University of Pennsylvania. He has said it's called "Jewniversity of Pennsylasia" because of the number of Jews and Asians that attend. So much for "intelligent, college bound young guys". This is 2011 and bigotry and ignorance still reign supreme.
The Boy with the Dark Hair at 3:44 should mind his own business, he's not even in their inner circle. He talks about how they busted their butts for Four Years and while there's alot of truth in that fact, David had to work just as hard. He's Scholarship, he wasn't born with a Silver Spoon in his Mouth, and he had to Wait Tables on those guys, which wasn't easy. Also it was because of David they finally won The Football Championship. It's 180% but it reminds me of Maile Misajon (Mylee Misahon) from the US Popstars Group Eden's Crush who didn't go through the intense auditions that the others did but had to learn everything quicker with less time, One Week to be exact.
McGoo was also in Adventures In Babysitting.
@bluecatky "Even in the 1950's"? Several years ago I was contracting with a person to paint my house. (No, not Ivy League) But-we started a conversation, and he made a comment about a past client of his "jewing him down". I was pretty shocked and wondered if I hadn't had a clearly Italian last name (married name) would he have made that comment. But that was in 2002 (or so). I ended up putting on siding my house instead of painting it, and I never had to deal with the racist ass again.
4:53 who is that?
0:28 Connors must have thought Dillon said it wasn't Connors because he's a nice guy, but Dillon is the one who cheated.
Why do you think McGoo showed a look of irritation when Conners admitted to being an antisemite?
So McGoo resented being called a bigot but he simply hates Greene cause he's Jewish. That's the definition of being a bigot.
DAMN cole hauser is fine!
What's annoys me about this scene is that why do they bring up Greene's Jewish background? Why can't they accept that he kept it to himself? Isn't that why there's first amendment and choices in the law of the United States?
God Cole Hauser was so freaking hot😍
Dillon cheated because he forgot to read Vickahs!
Do you like apples?
Wait until they find out Magoo is a homosexual...
whats up with the question at the end?? lol
too bad in real life, Greene would go down.
4:51 What's the name of the minor character who said "three" here? He also helped David when he was being bullied in the cafeteria.
wondered that myself, searched IMDB the other night, there are a number of minor characters with no actor pictures attached to them but i didn't feel like trying to look up their individual names
Another scene I've love to see on TH-cam is the Dean's opening speech in the chapel. Today's business moguls the world over MUST hear his speech.
JEEEWWWWWWS
IT WAS DiLLION!
4:18 I'll bet those 2 students got detention for that racket and that the guy in the left did as well for calling Collins a Bigot. Now that was very, very rude!
So what was the final verdict?
Greene ends up confessing...
David confessed, but they didn't believe him. Dillon was expelled from the school.
David was gonna take the rap, but, Van Kelt noticed Dillon cheating as well and confessed to the school board the truth
Dillon gets expelled for cheating on the test
I know this isn't relevant, but did you notice that the boys wearing glasses say that David was the cheater.
uhh stupid question maybe.. But I really want to see this movie, haven't seen it before.. But, who cheated? :$
It was Charlie Dillon (Matt Damon)
@Lisa4174 Awww, I'm sorry about the way your son is being treated but trust me, he's going to do very well for himself in life because he wants it badly enough. Today's College Kids are too spoiled for my taste. It's all about parties and not enough about academics.
What's the guy's name who says "Jesus, can we please keep all the Jewish stuff out of this?"
+Lissete Hillierd Will Lyman
I have to watch Rent after I watch this movie. The actor that plays Magoo is such a terrible character and his character, in Rent, is so nice and friendly.
Anthony Rapp is a great actor
@@stephenedwards5567 yes, he is!
It was Dillion who cheated.
He often plays the cheater or worse...
There were some pro wrestlers that wanted to beat the fuk out of matt damon when he used to help out at a local tavern over this .
Dillion did
The 3 dudes wearing glasses where the biggest bigots' lol
4:53 HOT
The Protestant lied and the Jew was honest?
So unrealistic (!) 😂
Total anti Jew bigotry drove that decision.
I like to contrast 3 of the guys in this movie from their characters in Dazed and Confused a yr later: Mcgoo does a 180, he's the nicest character in the film. Conners and Chesty are 2 of the biggest assholes in D & C and are as far from academics as one can be, with the latter flunking 12th grade.
Conners redeemed himself in this movie.
I loved him in Rent. That movie redeemed him for me. I dislike the character of McGoo more than I did Matt Damon's character. Just imagine if those two characters met. His character, in Rent, was Jewish and had homosexual friends. I don't think that McGoo would have approved.
This scene has no character development. Every characters in this movie could have learn something about Greene's Jewish background.