Vaati is chronologically the first villain that a reincarnation of the hero faced, and he's chronologically the first villain to threaten Hyrule. Centuries after his defeat, he somehow reappeared with no memory of the Light Force or being a Minish, And he named himself the Wind Mage and kidnapped girls from their home.
I believe there's an implication that much like Fallen Timeline Ganon, Vaati slowly went insane and believed that his "Kirby Boss" form is his true self...
Vaati deserves to come back. Being the second most recurring Villain and all. And since the FS games are entirely owned by Nintendo (unlike the whole mess that Mario RPG is) there's no reason why they can't bring him back. Let my boy shine again!
@@StarWritterSW overall it would be very interesting to have both Ganondorf and vaati in a Zelda game but it makes me wonder will Ganondorf be Vaatis master or the other way around I think Ganondprf is more powerful just for the simple fact that he has the title of demon king
@@StarWritterSW I’m talking about more of a game like OOT, WW, BOTW, TOTK type of game more like the big name Zelda type of game I wonder what would Ganondorf think of Vaati would those two try to control each other, would a dominance type of act happen or would it be more like servant/master type of relationship happen
It's actually insane how now the time is right for Four Swords Adventure to return the Wii U and Switch could serve as the GBASPs and the TV as the overworld screen. We don't know what Nintendo's next console will be like. Also a Minish Cap remaster would be nice...
Honestly, I think it would be kinda cool if maybe vaati infiltrated the wind fish, putting him to sleep forever so he could rule the world. That would be really cool.
Although canonically I don't think the 2 really have any relation, it's still pretty cool that one of Vaati's demon forms was clearly based on the nightmare from Links Awakening
@@thenewguyinredMy thoughts exactly. Hopefully they bring the Minish one alongside Excello instead of that Wind genie creature (are they the same Vaati? I do not think so...)
@@Gazing-09his enhlish name is ezlo and caati is the one at the bottom left of the thumbnail, top right and bottom left being what he becomes after minish cap
@@Gazing-09There is a big chance the minish evolved into kokiri and eventually devolved back into the koroks for some reason, all of them being child like nature spirits and all
Four swords anniversary was my first Zelda game, so Vaati holds a special place for me. I’d be over the moon if he was brought back. EDIT: those who say the same, I tip my hat to you.
In Melody's story it is revealed that Octavio is the bard who became the Necrodancer. This is why when you play as the bard you are allowed to go at your own pace, he hadn't set the curse yet.
@@yurisonovab3892 When playing Octavo in his story, the final boss is the Necrodancer and he literally says "Oh, how quaint. It's my past self!". This destroys any doubt about that Octavo is the Neecrodancer and not Vaati
@@S.I.L. None the less, even though Vaati inspired, he is not Vaati in the end and the game does state so. All I want clarify that him being his own character is not a "fair take" but established truth
While Octavo isn't Vaati, the locket item alludes to the fact that Octavo is Vaati's descendant. Saying that the gem that was on Vaati's hat is an heirloom passed down for generations, explaining the similarities between the two. Which means Vaati fucks.
Vaati has always been my most favorite character in the series, and so apon hearing the reasons why Yuga was put into hyrule warriors over him despite Vaati being MUCH more prominent and beloved.....it really REALLY annoys me, all because Jesus didn't get enough votes to be added in.....and yet Yuga got more???? I call BS, Vaati deserves WAY more love and attention then he does....he is the second most prominent villain in the series just before Ganondorf
Y'know, looking back at Vatii and the Minish, the Zonai's designed were definately influenced by them. Vatii's "big" form heavily resembles the Zonai from TOTK, and his eye in the last phase looks a lot like the Construct's designs.
Wasn’t Vaatis last appearance chronologically in four sword adventures on GameCube. I played that and I remember I found it weird he had nothing to say like before vaati was all about taunting link but in his last appearance he was silent
@@VardrunCRidleyKnight Yeah it was kind of disappointing final appearance. Like imagine if the very last time we see ganon and he’s just silent. What I’m saying is it was disappointing final iteration of him.
Games: The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening (1993 - Game Boy/DX - 1998 - Game Boy Color/2019 - Nintendo Switch) The Legend Of Zelda: Four Swords (2002 - Game Boy Advance) The Legend Of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (2004 - Nintendo Gamecube) The Legend Of Zelda: The Minish Cap (2005 - Game Boy Advance) Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (2018 - Nintendo Switch) Cadence of Hyrule (2019 - Nintendo Switch) The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening (2019 - Nintendo Switch)
Sadly I don't think Vaati could return in the current timeline, unless they break even more continuity. Vaati is originally a Minish, which don't exist in the BOTW and TOTK timeline, as they retcon basically *all* of the past lore in the series.
Didn't anyone ever think maybe we don't ever see the minish in BOTW or TOTK because in the lore only children can see them? Link is a grown man in both those games.
@@MalathTheBold actually same logic as the korok, you can see them if you are pure hearted and kids just so happen to be innocent up until a certain age its just there's VERY few pure hearted characters in tloz, even zelda herself is not actually considered pure hearted as far as im concerned (mainly due to her jealousy of link in the past) this is also the case for the dragons actually, except for specific people or specific spots, the dragons cant be seen, people just know where they roam because their shadows are still present this is something 2-3 npcs mention in botw,
Botw and Totk didn't retcon anything. Both games, including the past parts, are far in the future. It is a new Hyrule the Zonai founded, and there have been multiple races that live in the sky.
@@simonverse9466He's implied to at least be a descendant in Octavo's ode and has been hinted to have connections from the creator of CoH. In Octavo's Ode you get a family heirloom which is Vaati's Crest.
@@simonverse9466 Well he wants to make Zelda his bride in FS so I don't think it's not a possibility that he wanted to have children to continue his legacy. We've seen Ganon revived before so it's not out of question that it happened to Vaati. There are a lot of possibilities but the implications of a floating eye mating with a human disturbs me.
That's hardly a good reason. Just because it's been awhile since Vaati has been canonically seen doesn't mean he's not still out there. It's been ages since we've seen Koume and Kotake, but we see them in that one scene in TOTK.
@@lordawesome9060 because theres no minish, they were supposed to be in game but they couldnt make it work, so the closest thing i could get was a zonnai with all that thing of the wind mage and such
@@dapple-drawings They're referencing the kirby enemy Dark Matter, the main kirby villain. Dark matter and Vaati both are Dark orbs with single eyes, pretty similar with attacks too
En Minish cap si hubiera habido pelea contra vaati en su forma de hechicero además de sus 3 transformaciónes seguro que hubiera sido una pelea del mismo estilo de la pelea contra Aghami de Link to the past.
Dato curioso, vaati tomo esa forma para ganar el torneo de la espada, el es mejor espadachin que link al principio del juego, anque hay que destacar que canonicamente pasan meses desde que vaati rompe la espada y que link lo derrote
@@riolu477 es cierto ya me imagino que hubiera sido más épico que hubieran incluido una lucha contra el en esa forma usando este una espada hubiera sido como la pelea contra Ganondorf usando la espada para tirar rayos y golpear estos intentando evitar el contraataque.
I also swapped between his final phase of his Minish cap fight and the cadence fight, and Octavo's theme is very clearly a remixed version of Vaati's. It might be a bit of a stretch, but its very rare for nintendo final bosses that aren't somehow related to share a theme so I can understand why he made that connection
One of the items you can find while playing as Octavo is a locket passed down through generations, which looks suspiciously like Vaati’s crest on his hat, and grants immunity to lightning and, more importantly, wind, all but confirming Octavo’s relationship to Vaati
Bruh you have no idea how much Vaati means to me. I am very intensely parasocially involved with him for a freaking decade lol 😂 (aka im officially delulu and if you google fanart of him around 30% of it is mine). Anyways im so happy to see this complilation here it makes my lil heart dance to see that our purple pixel man hasn't been forgotten yet 💜💜💜💜
Vaati is chronologically the first villain that a reincarnation of the hero faced, and he's chronologically the first villain to threaten Hyrule. Centuries after his defeat, he somehow reappeared with no memory of the Light Force or being a Minish, And he named himself the Wind Mage and kidnapped girls from their home.
Was about to bring up Demise before realizing you said REincarnation, AKA not the first Link. 😅
@@codename618 if you count the manga as cannon the Skyward Sword Link is also a reincarnation
I believe there's an implication that much like Fallen Timeline Ganon, Vaati slowly went insane and believed that his "Kirby Boss" form is his true self...
@@Signedcentaur OMG, he is a freaking Kirby boss LOL. Love it
Actually it's the Unknown evil that the hero of men fought against
Vaati deserves to come back. Being the second most recurring Villain and all.
And since the FS games are entirely owned by Nintendo (unlike the whole mess that Mario RPG is) there's no reason why they can't bring him back. Let my boy shine again!
Especially if Vaati is like a second in command of the demon king Ganondorfs army like Ghirahim was
@@probenfetchak8076 That's the thing: Vaati is one of the few villains that has nothing to do with Ganon. That's what makes him interesting
@@StarWritterSW overall it would be very interesting to have both Ganondorf and vaati in a Zelda game but it makes me wonder will Ganondorf be Vaatis master or the other way around I think Ganondprf is more powerful just for the simple fact that he has the title of demon king
@@probenfetchak8076 They both appeared in the same game before actually: Four Swords Adventure for GC
@@StarWritterSW I’m talking about more of a game like OOT, WW, BOTW, TOTK type of game more like the big name Zelda type of game I wonder what would Ganondorf think of Vaati would those two try to control each other, would a dominance type of act happen or would it be more like servant/master type of relationship happen
It's actually insane how now the time is right for Four Swords Adventure to return the Wii U and Switch could serve as the GBASPs and the TV as the overworld screen.
We don't know what Nintendo's next console will be like. Also a Minish Cap remaster would be nice...
I wish Vaati was in Hyrule Warriors
Or in Totk
The guy in Age of Calamity really looked like him
I wish veran was in hyrule warriors
@@Derwichmusiqueyeah
I'll let you have the Nightmare, because Vaati was a Wind Mage, and the nightmare was of the Windfish...so it works.
Honestly, I think it would be kinda cool if maybe vaati infiltrated the wind fish, putting him to sleep forever so he could rule the world. That would be really cool.
Although canonically I don't think the 2 really have any relation, it's still pretty cool that one of Vaati's demon forms was clearly based on the nightmare from Links Awakening
I wouldn’t mind bringing Vaati back. Maybe he can be a playable character.
Possibly for another Hyrule Warriors sequel.
@@thenewguyinredMy thoughts exactly. Hopefully they bring the Minish one alongside Excello instead of that Wind genie creature (are they the same Vaati? I do not think so...)
@@Gazing-09his enhlish name is ezlo and caati is the one at the bottom left of the thumbnail, top right and bottom left being what he becomes after minish cap
@@Gazing-09There is a big chance the minish evolved into kokiri and eventually devolved back into the koroks for some reason, all of them being child like nature spirits and all
To be honest the nightmare from link s awakening looks more like dark matter from the kirby franchise
Four swords anniversary was my first Zelda game, so Vaati holds a special place for me. I’d be over the moon if he was brought back.
EDIT: those who say the same, I tip my hat to you.
Same!!!!!!
Also same!!!
Samee
Same
Octavo isn't Vaati... he's literally mentioned in Crypt of the Necrodancer's story. He's his own character.
That's a fair take, but there are a lot of corrolated elements. Wind, music, purple/black color scheme, that hair.
In Melody's story it is revealed that Octavio is the bard who became the Necrodancer. This is why when you play as the bard you are allowed to go at your own pace, he hadn't set the curse yet.
@@yurisonovab3892 When playing Octavo in his story, the final boss is the Necrodancer and he literally says "Oh, how quaint. It's my past self!". This destroys any doubt about that Octavo is the Neecrodancer and not Vaati
@@SelnathornThe two Necrodancers are two different people. Octavian the Bard in the original and the Vaati inspired Octavo in CoH.
@@S.I.L. None the less, even though Vaati inspired, he is not Vaati in the end and the game does state so. All I want clarify that him being his own character is not a "fair take" but established truth
I think its a bit weird how you included DethI and Octavo in here when neither are Vaati
Same. I was confused by octavo. I wasn't picking up he was a vaati standin
@@pushingdasies1 In Octavo's Ode you can get his old family heirloom. The crest that was on Vaati's darkened Mage's Cap.
While Octavo isn't Vaati, the locket item alludes to the fact that Octavo is Vaati's descendant. Saying that the gem that was on Vaati's hat is an heirloom passed down for generations, explaining the similarities between the two.
Which means Vaati fucks.
@@DarkLink1996.
Possible descendant of Vaati then? Or maybe his reincarnation?
Octavo was actually intended to be Vaati, but since he's technically owned by Capcom it wasn't legally possible.
I really wanted Vaati in Hyrule Warriors.
So glad it wasn't just me.
Vaati should me the main antagonist in a game staring Princess Zelda. They make good rivals.
Nintendo: Best I can do is Ganon again, take it or leave it
I don't think Vaati's gonna be in Zelda game any time soon. He's too obsessed with the lore of Fromsoft games to plot nefarious plots
Vaati and Zant are amazing Villians that need to make a return.
Best underated boss ever!
This video came back to my feed about a year later. I stand by my words: Bring Vaati back Nintendo!
As a Necrodancer/Cadence of Hyrule fan its somewhat painful watching no-beat mode v.v
My hat to you to play with it, I'm bad at it.
@@slynthehedgehog8061 Nothing a bit of practice won't fix if you enjoy the game!
Vaati has always been my most favorite character in the series, and so apon hearing the reasons why Yuga was put into hyrule warriors over him despite Vaati being MUCH more prominent and beloved.....it really REALLY annoys me, all because Jesus didn't get enough votes to be added in.....and yet Yuga got more???? I call BS, Vaati deserves WAY more love and attention then he does....he is the second most prominent villain in the series just before Ganondorf
Y'know, looking back at Vatii and the Minish, the Zonai's designed were definately influenced by them. Vatii's "big" form heavily resembles the Zonai from TOTK, and his eye in the last phase looks a lot like the Construct's designs.
It would be cool that they bring him back for a totk continuation, something like a zonai god or a thing like that
Dethl and Octavo arent Vaati... fail
Never knew Vaati is male and not female. I only heard about him thanks to some Newgrounds parody called Ganondorf's kingdom.
Evolution of Vaati Battles in Zelda Games (1993 - 2023)
Wasn’t Vaatis last appearance chronologically in four sword adventures on GameCube. I played that and I remember I found it weird he had nothing to say like before vaati was all about taunting link but in his last appearance he was silent
Yeah, four swords adventures was a weird one. Its weird throwing aside of vaati always sat poorly with me.
@@VardrunCRidleyKnight Yeah it was kind of disappointing final appearance. Like imagine if the very last time we see ganon and he’s just silent. What I’m saying is it was disappointing final iteration of him.
vaati is my favourite type of villain and the funny thing is i play kirby and galacta knight is basically the same idea as vaati
"Vaati battles in zelda games" includes ssbu
I have to say he looks really simular to Dark Matter from the Kirby franchise
The dark matter vaati
Vaati literally looks like Dark Matter from kirby.
That’s literally frickin crazy
Vaati from zelda minish cap is the hottest villain ever.🥵
Games:
The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening (1993 - Game Boy/DX - 1998 - Game Boy Color/2019 - Nintendo Switch)
The Legend Of Zelda: Four Swords (2002 - Game Boy Advance)
The Legend Of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (2004 - Nintendo Gamecube)
The Legend Of Zelda: The Minish Cap (2005 - Game Boy Advance)
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (2018 - Nintendo Switch)
Cadence of Hyrule (2019 - Nintendo Switch)
The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening (2019 - Nintendo Switch)
dude, did you really resort to theft on that Link's Awakening clip?
Sadly I don't think Vaati could return in the current timeline, unless they break even more continuity.
Vaati is originally a Minish, which don't exist in the BOTW and TOTK timeline, as they retcon basically *all* of the past lore in the series.
They already broke the timeline with TotK
Didn't anyone ever think maybe we don't ever see the minish in BOTW or TOTK because in the lore only children can see them? Link is a grown man in both those games.
They actually wanted to add the Minish in BotW, but the game engine refused to play ball and they were eventually forced to give up.
@@MalathTheBold actually same logic as the korok, you can see them if you are pure hearted and kids just so happen to be innocent up until a certain age its just there's VERY few pure hearted characters in tloz, even zelda herself is not actually considered pure hearted as far as im concerned (mainly due to her jealousy of link in the past) this is also the case for the dragons actually, except for specific people or specific spots, the dragons cant be seen, people just know where they roam because their shadows are still present this is something 2-3 npcs mention in botw,
Botw and Totk didn't retcon anything. Both games, including the past parts, are far in the future. It is a new Hyrule the Zonai founded, and there have been multiple races that live in the sky.
So is octavo supposed to be vaati? I didn't pick up on that since I thought the instruments were to beat Ganon
Maybe a descendant?
He's not, just looks similar.
So wait, does that make vaati the nightmare that cursed the wind fish?!?!
No. The nightmare’s name is Dethl.
Octavo isn’t Vaati though :/
I mean he looks like Vaati but he doesn’t act like him
@@simonverse9466He's implied to at least be a descendant in Octavo's ode and has been hinted to have connections from the creator of CoH. In Octavo's Ode you get a family heirloom which is Vaati's Crest.
@@coryfreake9070 oh tyat makes sense… wait how is octavo even here if Vaati died in four swords adventure?
@@simonverse9466 Well he wants to make Zelda his bride in FS so I don't think it's not a possibility that he wanted to have children to continue his legacy. We've seen Ganon revived before so it's not out of question that it happened to Vaati. There are a lot of possibilities but the implications of a floating eye mating with a human disturbs me.
@@coryfreake9070 sadly we already know the answer he did do it to make octavo….
So It’s Basically Dark Emo Bosses.
Don't you think that Vaati will return on ToTK(at least on DLC) ?
There are thousands of years between vaatis appearance and totk so I guess no
That's hardly a good reason. Just because it's been awhile since Vaati has been canonically seen doesn't mean he's not still out there. It's been ages since we've seen Koume and Kotake, but we see them in that one scene in TOTK.
Vaati as a zonnan mad mage that wants to conquers hyrule using a way more advanced version of zonnan technology? That sounds good
@@donbototo5068 I like the idea, but why would Vaati be a Zonai?
@@lordawesome9060 because theres no minish, they were supposed to be in game but they couldnt make it work, so the closest thing i could get was a zonnai with all that thing of the wind mage and such
HAL: *sees Vaati* But what if we gave it a mask, cape, sword, anime hair, and give it a bunch of orange petals?
I’m not sure what this is referencing…
...and make it possesses greedy penguins?
@@michellejackson9763 Kirby? Not sure what enemy you’re referring to though
@@dapple-drawings They're referencing the kirby enemy Dark Matter, the main kirby villain. Dark matter and Vaati both are Dark orbs with single eyes, pretty similar with attacks too
Is dethl here because they look like Vaati's big ol' eye form?
I like this Enemy.
😎😎😎😎😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I always called Vaati "Dark Matter", because his 2nd form has a somewhat similar vibe of Dark Matter.
Vaati in smash
Vaati from The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening!? I didn't know that guy was really final boss because I already defeat him.😮
Because he isn't
@@clonecommanderrex8542, wait a minute. Are you saying that's not Vaati from The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening?😮🤔
@@BrandonSmith-ik7luhe said that
ya know since Vaati was originally a Sage of Wind, if he appeared in BotW/TotK universe, would that make him a Rito? XP
No, given that the first Sage of Wind in a Zelda game was a korok.
A zonnan probably
Bring Vaati back. Stop playing Nintendo.
WAIT JUST A FCKIN SECOND! Vaati is the FINAL BOSS of Link's Awakening?!
No. That's Dethl.
En Minish cap si hubiera habido pelea contra vaati en su forma de hechicero además de sus 3 transformaciónes seguro que hubiera sido una pelea del mismo estilo de la pelea contra Aghami de Link to the past.
Dato curioso, vaati tomo esa forma para ganar el torneo de la espada, el es mejor espadachin que link al principio del juego, anque hay que destacar que canonicamente pasan meses desde que vaati rompe la espada y que link lo derrote
@@riolu477 es cierto ya me imagino que hubiera sido más épico que hubieran incluido una lucha contra el en esa forma usando este una espada hubiera sido como la pelea contra Ganondorf usando la espada para tirar rayos y golpear estos intentando evitar el contraataque.
That’s dethl not vaati
I never realized that Octavo is a reference to Vaati.
I don't think it is. just a mistake by Nintendo unity😅
@@Wasabi19940They look alike, and Octavo wears the same jewel as on Vaati's hat
I also swapped between his final phase of his Minish cap fight and the cadence fight, and Octavo's theme is very clearly a remixed version of Vaati's. It might be a bit of a stretch, but its very rare for nintendo final bosses that aren't somehow related to share a theme so I can understand why he made that connection
One of the items you can find while playing as Octavo is a locket passed down through generations, which looks suspiciously like Vaati’s crest on his hat, and grants immunity to lightning and, more importantly, wind, all but confirming Octavo’s relationship to Vaati
The creators wanted to name him Vaalni at first but Nintendo said nope ^^;
Noones talking about how in the LA segment he missed one arrow and managed to kill the final boss with NONE left?
ok
Vaati was Sealed At sunken Hyrule By Four Sword
Octavo isn't Vaati, hes the young necrodancer
Ganondorf es para Link lo que Vaati es para Toon Link.
Bruh you have no idea how much Vaati means to me.
I am very intensely parasocially involved with him for a freaking decade lol 😂 (aka im officially delulu and if you google fanart of him around 30% of it is mine).
Anyways im so happy to see this complilation here it makes my lil heart dance to see that our purple pixel man hasn't been forgotten yet 💜💜💜💜
They got caught lacking with this one.
i didn’t know vati was that black thing in links awakening
Because he isn’t. The nightmare’s name is Dethl.
We need vaati to return in a 3D game!
Dethl from Link’s Awakening isn’t Vaati.
th-cam.com/video/VFMUjz_AH10/w-d-xo.html you forgot octavo's future form: the necrodancer
I didn't know DethI resembled Vaati.
Were 2023?
One octavio isnt vaati. He is the necrodancer
2 Tge nightnare does not reference vaati, since rhat boss is from a game before he was created
Octavo is not Vaati : (
Octavo is someone else not vaati
Vaati is in the Sword still so they are not the same person
Vatti kind of weird 😮😮
Minish cap vaati is the best
Shadow Attack
ayo what if we die in pkmn catching tutorials? (btw what if we lose in nintendo tutorials)
not sure how vaati and octavo are the same character, especially since they have nothing to do with one another. one
wasnt he in age of calamity?
Is anyone gonna say octavo isn't vaati?
Dethl and Octavo are not Vaati.
Not Vaati in links awekening.
The final form looks like him.
Sheika
the hell is smash bros doing here
That’s nightmare or dethl not Vaati.
1:24 that not vaati
Octavo and Dethl ain’t Vaati.
구후와 옥타보
케이던스 오브 하이랄에서 구후 대신 나오는 구후 닮은 얘 나옴
Nightmare isn't vaati
Half of these aren’t even him lol
He's the most illegal villain in the entire franchise (he's a kid) but I like him
Hes not a kid tbh hes repertedly referred to as a man by Nintendo and NPCs alike.
둘다 남자다 루미네처럼
So wait, does that make vaati the nightmare that cursed the wind fish?!?!
No. That's Dethl. Not sure why they included that...