What amazes me is that I even had to make this video. Greg deliberately ignored research I referenced and cherry picked lower quality of evidence. The guy will make up any lie he has to in order to win an argument.
I dont understand why you continue to debate. Hes admitted the vegan diet can be beneficial and improve health. He also says that adding lean meat to that same diet would be just as healthy. Hes not against vegan eating.
@@highpsi7463 You're getting caught in word gymnastics. The guy thinks eating meat is as healthy as not eating meat and vegan gains gave research to prove otherwise that the guy didn't even read.
@@EbonysBlaze it's not debate about ethics or health anymore. All they're doing now is going back and forth calling each other a liar. Have a proper debate And your comment makes me think you havnt watched any of Greg's vid. Hes admitted numerous times that the vegan diet is beneficial. Greg never claimed eating stacks of meat is healthy. Hes all for a balanced diet. How can you argue with that?
@@TheOneAndOnlyJimmyD IFBB Pro, Master's in Kinesiology and more than a decade of experience in the field as a pro bodybuilder and lifter. That is honestly not that much credentials that it would be coming out of every orifice. Also he is not a doctor. Not saying that he doesn't know what he is talking about I just believe there are other people with a lot more credential especially when it comes to nutrition that has way more knowledge and experience than him, especially someone who specializes in nutrition or biochemistry. The same can be said for VG. Both have their biases.
He is not a doctor by the way. Master's in Kinesiology and a pro bodybuilder, but not a doctor. But I do agree with a lot what Greg said regarding this topic.
@@wrigh2uk sorry that comment wasn't directed at you. I was agreeing with you. This video frustrates me because of my background in biostatistics. It bugs me that vegan gains can actually fool people, yet when I watch this, he's just making a fool out of himself. Problem is, you need a solid understanding of stats to see why.
Btw, you tell us Greg is lying all the time and then you mention this UK study of all-cause mortality and say: "only the vegans and vegetarians had a statistically significant reduced risk of all-cause mortality". Where the hell did you get that??? Allow me to cite the actual study: RESULTS: There was no significant difference in overall (all-cause) mortality between the diet groups: HRs in low meat eaters, fish eaters, and vegetarians compared with regular meat eaters were 0.93 (95% CI: 0.86, 1.00), 0.96 (95% CI: 0.86, 1.06), and 1.02 (95% CI: 0.94, 1.10), respectively CONCLUSION: United Kingdom-based vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality. Differences found for specific causes of death merit further investigation. Do you really think your audience is that stupid, you moron? Incredible. Why the hell do you follow this idiot, people?
Holy shit ur actually right, he shows the study but if you read like literally 2 rows above what he points out it says EXACTLY the opposite.Jesus Christ, I actually used to kinda root for this guy as he seemed a smart dude but lately all I see is him bein a total tinfoil bum who is now also a liar.Great Job pointing it out tho!
John Wick greg docuette is the god of honesty, all these other fitness youtubers give half truths that make u feel stupid, because u respect them and follow them for months or years only for them to expose themselves, not saying I followed vg.
trapd00rspider when he was 14 years old he was able to bench 230 pounds, he wieghted about 140, and he was natural, your claims on “we should follow someone who does drugs” are irrelevant. He is a Certified Nutritionist, not a fat vegan who lies about quotes and bash other fitness youtubers. He admits it’s a dumb idea, but he encourages being natural to ALL of his clients, he done multiple videos were he gives reasons not too, Greg knows what he is talking about, he has facts and evidence to back up every claim, you’re a straight moron and have ZEERROOOOOOOOOoooo chance of being given the same useful information from vegan gains
@trapd00rspider yeah a diet of someone who lives at eating french fries all the time From your prospictive you connot get lean naturally and you must remain fat because that you r natural
Toothless go watch Greg’s video where right after his electricity analogy, he explains exactly why it’s harder to get protein as a vegan. But Richard completely ignores that and tries to make his electricity analogy a point against Greg.
Pro bodybuilder with a master in kinesiology... The other a random vegan who thinks he knows it all cause he cherry picks studies... Yeah i wonder whose right
Pro builder...soooooo, took roids early in his lifting. Never broke the natty ceiling still uses them and is a master at theory?..left behind from another theorist?.nah proof is in the pudding both these ass clowns dont know shit.
Richard is right. Greg is wrong. Unlike Greg, Richard actually uses science while Greg uses juice lol. Watch this video and look at the evidence, studies, and research that Richard references.
@@Carl-jg4fo go watch greg shit all over richard and how he is not educated enough on these studies to even make an unbiased judgement on them 😂 greg ripped this guy to shreds
@@Carl-jg4fo yes the guy with the phd in kinsiology is wrong unlike Richard who has...? Greg had trained naturally for over 20 years, and he literally became a natural bodybuilding champion before deciding to go on steroids. You don't even know what you're saying, you sound as bad as the stupid guy in the video right now
@@lax1e676 You should definitely watch Richard's video. Unlike Greg, Richard uses evidence. The only thing that Greg did was ramble and talk a lot. I challenge you to find a point in Greg's video where he uses studies and research to refute the Game Changers. If you can't then you have to become vegan.
Greg is always right...i just watch some vegan gain videos because i cant believe how can one guy says so many bullshit in one video. The guy is amazing never fails to suprise me by how moronic he is
how can you like him? he tryed to film his grandpa while he had a heart attack and died, just to prove a point. lol and he made a video about he was pissed off cuz his family didn't let him do that. hes a psychopath. :O
Trying to get fame off someone's back who is probably twice your age and looks 100x better than you. and has almost 40 years of experience or bodybuilding & nutrition & a degree in kinesiology, also another 10+ years of personal experience on steroids, whilst you just seem to be talking out your ass
I love how people use this "debate me" as an argument "well if you know it so well why dont you depate me then" vegan gains uses it all the time as an argument
@youngbuck0911 Because Greg just magically gained his "knowledge" without learning it from anyone ? - what a non-sensical argument. What does bodyfat, have to do with knowledge and intellect? - again, non-sensical argument. It's very obv which one of them knows how to break down studies/research, are we even watching the same thing?
Bringing up a Masters in Kinesiology is silly considering the topic of this video is nutrition. Kinesiology is the study of movement by the human body. None of which has to do with nutrition 🙄😆✌
Where tf did you get that greg bashed one study and therefore makes him wrong? Dude literally pointed out the inherent flaws in like 6 of the studies🤦🏽♂️.
I love how people use this "debate me" as an argument "well if you know it so well why dont you depate me then" vegan gains uses it all the time as an argument
3:24 your rebuttal was a misinterpretation of Greg's point. While larger sample sizes do provide more consistent results, they don't improve the accuracy of them if the data sample was skewed(Greg's point). You made a point that Greg is biased and isn't correctly analyzing or even viewing sourced; however, at 9:00 we can see this claim paradoxical, as you cited a survey without mentioning the inaccuracies that even the source stated it had(didn't contain a nutritional biomarker). Additionally, you criticized Greg for cherry picking weaker evidence when you failed to address a multitude of evidence he brought forth. You went as far as saying that the inherent benefits of a vegan or vegetarian diet is "undeniable" which if you know anything about scientific research, is either a hyperbole or a ridiculous statement.
Sorry dude I'm currently studying clinical nutrition and a lot of people are wrong about veganism a balanced diet is the proper way to go no one should be pure carnivore or pure vegan or vegetarian our bodies were meant for balance I was vegan for a yearl in college I was put in the hospital for muscle wasting because I was born disabled I use my upper body all day therefore I wasn't getting proper enzymes there certain enzymes that should be gotten from me for some people I applaud anyone trying to live a healthy lifestyle but the problem is bigens want everyone to be vegan but that diet doesn't work for everyone just like vegetarianism does not work for everyone or carnivore specific diet excetera excetera... Greg doucette promotes a balanced diet.
Appeal to popularity: popularity≠factuality. At one point 100% of Europe thought that the earth was flat. VG was right and he’s got the evidence to back him up. Where’s poor Greg’s?
Professional bodybuilder with a masters in kinesiology, 40 years experience both naturally and enhanced. verses a random vegan dropout who cherry picks studies... .
@@TheLegend-wz1ye Wow you responded quick. You must of been on standby. I am not dodging any messages. It's just your comment made you look like you have your head up your ass, a common symptom from VG fans.
Cant believe I used to watch you before finally seeing the light about a year or so ago. Only come back to see this as I just watched Greg's video where he tore you a new one! Greg, by the way is probably the best fitness TH-camr out there at the moment. You could learn a thing or two from him.
Meat will always be needed to stay healthy if you like it or not It’s just a fact, we are omnivores without meat we will miss vitamines that we need to stay healthy just accept that being vegan is not gonna help your own body.
No, you don't need meat to be healthy. You can get your vitamins on a vegan diet. Omnivore just means that you are able to eat both and extract nutrients from both, but you do not need to eat meat or animal products to be healthy. If we can't be vegan, then I wonder why I'm not dead yet.
I am vegan and I watch both your channel and Greg’s channel. It really sucks that you both have to engage in this tit for tat bullshit and it makes me not want to watch either of your channels anymore. It’s really immature and annoying
Who else knew this video was coming because his channel is dying? He seriously milks the shit out of every situation to fund his shitty relationship and boring life
I'm starting to get a little tired of all these petty arguments going back and forth from all these TH-cam fitness guys.. They're starting to remind me of suburban soccer moms who have nothing better to do but find fault with others..
I subscribed to vegan gains the other day because I was impressed with his knowledge and his passion for training, but now I'm getting a little turned off..
Well then he should def stop making vids calling out idiots spreading misinformation that gets hundreds of thousands of views because you're turned off 🙄
@@Thehubb1 By no means should he stop doing what he's doing, his channel is doing great, good for him, I wish him the best.. But I only want to invest my time watching videos that will help motivate me with new ideas and make my workouts more productive, not watching guys gossiping about eachother..It's just silly in my oinion, if you enjoy it, well then good for you!
@@QueensNativeNYC standing by while morons do bad thing is how we came to have a brain dead idiot in the white house dude. Someone has to call them out. No one is forcing you to watch
@@hungryshark9722 he's on roids and it's not nearly as difficult for tiny short little guys to get muscularity, he's tiny in terms of size and height and big muscles on a short roided guy aren't impressive.
Not everyone wants yo deprive themselves of things that tastes good. Stop.bashing people for eating meat.. yo u dont and you still look fat and out of shape
@@jakob9942 I disagree. It can show potential bad actors in any kind of discourse. If VG is right and he deliberately cherry picked and ignored data than he can't be trusted on nutrition advice (especially regarding nonvegan vs. vegan diets). I don't care what team you think you're on but team truth doesn't want dishonest bad actors that have proven to cherry pick and ignore higher level research to promote their own bias.
Okay, to the point where you make fun of greg screaming because he said you don't need "evidence" to show that an omnivore diet is easier than vegan: How is it not harder, when you literally can't go shopping "blindfolded" in a normal shop (junkfood/ bad foods aside, it's about "difficulty" here, not health) and just get what you want?
Additionally, his example with the winter clothing is actually pretty easy to understand, not sure why you say it's an argument, it's just an example that shows you can stay warm one way or the other, but the other one is undoubtely more difficult/ more complex. Applying this to the vegan vs omnivore diet, literally everyone should understand what he meant.
you're right, but it's pointless. It's also easier to lay in bed and die, than go to work for 40+ years. The information to plan action as an individual is related to the primary goal of survival, which takes effort. You just balance it by choosing the path with least resistance to achive maximum values happiness.
Nikola Tesla Yes, but I don’t wanna die though 😅 No need to take it so far, it’s easier to go to a shop and get what you want instead of being limited to let’s say half of the stuff That’s the only thing I wanted to address
@@bobbarker399 I completly understand the point. But it's a naive fallacy (Milchmädchenrechnung :D). It's literally a dozen hours to get the information and plan actions accordingly for years of healthy living with better bloodflow, saved time on recovery, doctor visits, getting pills and so on. I think the latter option is much harder for me, despite beeing a procrastinator
what's is he going to debate? that they both agree that the vegan diet is good and viable for building muscle and staying healthy? Because that's literally what he said on both of his videos.
@@hungryshark9722 and it has heavy metals, heme iron, cholesterol, saturated fats that are the worst for heart health. You can get omega 3 from nuts and seeds whithout risks factors. Oh and if it's farmed fishyou can forget the omega 3s unless they are supplemented.
Debate with a rather radical activist, who claims for himself the interpret primacy about the quality of evidence? Doesn't sound like alot of fun, or what do you think? VG will just doubt the validity of every study that doesn't support his ideology, calling it industry propaganda or anything of that kind. That's no basis for a worthwhile debate.
U literally just went based off the video what a joke that video had so much broken facts I’m with my boi Greg here.. by the way Greg literally states “it’s harder to get protein as a vegan because not many people know about the beans and tufu for protein” and he’s also says it’s harder because you eliminate a food group that sounds pretty true to me but what does he know
@Vegan Gains What amazes me is how you think you’re so intelligent that you can’t see through his intelligence cleverly disguised in his acts? He’s actually very intelligent, but CHOOSES to dumb down the info to make sure most “morons” can understand the info he is given. Are you seriously not able to comprehend what he means by when he made the point that you argued for him about how much harder it is for vegans? You stated that you just have to know what to pick. His point was how was that not harder for most, more normal average people who don’t know as much about nutrition and such. Also, planning your meals? How many more normal, average people actually plan and to what extent do they really plan their meals? His point about research as he took classes that taught him about how research is flawed, and there’s no definitive results on diets affecting people- did YOU purposely not pay attention and try to understand the info. Research is flawed, and especially when it comes to research on diets- they don’t truly paint the whole picture, especially because of human nature to forget, omit, and many other variables. Do you truly believe that diet research can account for every variable that could have a major impact? I don’t know if you truly believe what you’re saying, or if you’re just acting to defend yourself. The one clear difference between you and Greg is that he cares a lot about the information he shares to make sure that the average Joe or moron gets it, to make it more accessible and understandable to follow. You seem like you are just trying to sound smarter by talking all science and such, and you don’t make your information as appealing and understandable for a wider audience. Word of advice- if you truly want to make veganism more appealing and for more people to follow it- don’t try to sell it from a health angle, and this is from me. Because I guarantee you- MOST people DON’T fucking care about the health this, health that. They want food that tastes good and that they can easily access. It’s that simple. Think about the average person and really how much they care about health. Again, that’s IF you want to make veganism more appealing and for more people to follow.
Greg: Yells at a camera and audience believes everything. VG: reads the actual study and shows it to audience, audience dislikes it. Audience pretty much just wants good news about their bad habits same as always. Ethical eating has always been for the brave few that are willing to do the right thing despite mainstream barbarism, group think, and social pressure. Not surprising given human being’s dismal history as a violent species. I support you VG love your channel and content keep up the good work.
Notice when he said I'm not going to go through everything Greg said to keep it short. That's some bull you just know he's right about most of it and cherry picked his video
Let’s be honest Vegan gains it’s clear harder to get adequate protein on a vegan diet compared to a well balanced diet especially if you’re following a low carb diet say getting ready for a bodybuilding show. You walk into a grocery store meat everywhere protein everywhere. You’re vegan? Now you gotta search for lentils , beans, tofu that’s high in protein and I’m sure when you’re vegan you goto specific grocery stores bc they carry certain vegan products you’re looking for. When you follow a well balanced diet with meat protein you can go into any grocery store mom and pop or corporate chain and BOOM no issues finding protein bc they will have all kinds of meat. Let’s not talk about eating out on the go looking for something high protein. I can eat anywhere and have no problems. You’re vegan you’re gonna have a hard time finding a high protein meal on the go. This is coming from a guy who lives in NYC where the amount of vegan friendly places are a lot higher then other places. You’re 100% wrong on this one buddy.
I agree with your video and am vegan, but you have to stop saying "according to latest cohort out if uk only vegans had statistically significant reduction in all cause mortality." Literally one line above it says " there was no different in risk between diet groups for all causes of death combined" If you actuslly look at the study this data is from, the oxford study, theres no difference. So bad point. You should use Adventist data instead.
23 year and 40+ body building shows as natural lifter ,10+ years as enhanced lifter , IFBB Pro , World records in lifting , Masters in kinesiology , 8% body fat and ton of muscles ,Years of coaching experience VS Fat obnoxious Vegan,. Hmmmm whom should I listen to? Quite hard !!
@@nutta646 buying a variety of meals when you've been able to eat meat your whole life and then going to a much smaller variety is hard you won't know many recipes and will probably struggle getting full and finding food you'll enjoy he literally says you have to be more diligent to be vegan .. diligent means hard working...
@@lostimx mathematically you are obviously (should never use that word on the internet, I know) correct, in practise it couldnt be further from the truth. As I learnt to a eat whole food plant based diet I added much higher variety of foods, and realized how little I had before (I loved and ate hundreds of sausage variations, but in the end it's just meat with spices (a.k.a. plants))
@@__NikolaTesla__ you can't go from less to more by removing meat from your diet lol you're literally subtracting variety I don't hate vegans , but some kinda paint a biased picture , I'm pragmatic nothing bias is going to convince me otherwise
You're such a hypocrite. You don't listen to what Greg says either. He was saying it's harder to eat more protein in a vegan diet b/c not everyone knows what to eat. It's NOT common knowledge. Any simpleton knows that meat has protein in it but I didn't even know what satin was nor the nutrition facts and most people don't. And do you know what an analogy is? Clearly electricity isn't related to nutrition... He was saying no shit you can get adequate protein from a vegan diet but turning on a light switch (eating meat) is easier. Idk how you can debate that. I don't have to look up if chicken or steak has protein. But wtf is in satin? And You don't need a scientific study to know that. Even tv advertises meat more than vegan food.
How do you not understand when Greg says it's harder to get protein in a vegan diet. Your a smart guy. When you are not vegan it doesn't mean you can't eat vegetables lol, so you can have chicken and tofu for example. He is saying that you have more choices of protein.
I suppose. I think Vegan Gains point is that getting protein is trivially easy for both diets, so to paint one as superior because of its supposed greater ease in getting protein is rather ridiculous.
When you can't back up a shitty documentary about a shitty diet, you make fun of an accomplished bodybuilder's voice, who by the way had no problem with veganism in general. Oh and when a person who happened to consume meat with other processed garbage you rejoice when they die from a heart attack which had nothing to do with animal products more than likely. Get a freaking life.
What's funny is that Greg only made one video about you and here you are making a second video about him because you can't handle the fact that he threw at you and so you're whining like a little girl in this video and cant take an "L" my guy. Meanwhile Greg Doucette has only been on TH-cam for a very little time and he doubled his escribers and you've been on TH-cam for how many years? It's pretty sad to see you girl in this phase and honestly you need to just quit :/
I think ill believe Greg, who has a Masters in Kinesiology, is correct. As compared to you who is a biased vegan with no college education. Im not a fan of either of you two, however after watching videos from both of you, Greg is correct and you are just wrong and very blatantly biased towards veganism and just refuse to accept anything that is not vegan.
VG you're an absolute disaster.... I also hate your monotonic intonation, does being vegan make you a fucking robot? Can't wait till Greg replies and shut's your annoying mouth.ALSO I prefer Greg's spit over your boring videos.
Your arm that you flex at the end of the video doesn’t even look like muscle! It looks more like fat then if anything! For a vegan you look like shit dude! Maybe you should change your diet bro
Still better than listening to the monotone voice of VG.. I prefer listening to someone with a higher pitch voice but can swing between high and low to give life in their speech rather than listening to a flat voice.
David Williams He Is lying into your Face and Is an idiot... And Takes DRUGS To get muscle.... Bit ok, Not much more wrong with him... At least As far As I Know.
He isn't like that, just watch his old videos. But he is way more entertaining when yelling and insulting people of morons. And yeah he is probably stressed as he prepping for his contest.
What amazes me is that I even had to make this video. Greg deliberately ignored research I referenced and cherry picked lower quality of evidence. The guy will make up any lie he has to in order to win an argument.
I dont understand why you continue to debate. Hes admitted the vegan diet can be beneficial and improve health. He also says that adding lean meat to that same diet would be just as healthy. Hes not against vegan eating.
@@highpsi7463 You're getting caught in word gymnastics. The guy thinks eating meat is as healthy as not eating meat and vegan gains gave research to prove otherwise that the guy didn't even read.
@@EbonysBlaze Go watch his video first
@@EbonysBlaze it's not debate about ethics or health anymore. All they're doing now is going back and forth calling each other a liar. Have a proper debate
And your comment makes me think you havnt watched any of Greg's vid. Hes admitted numerous times that the vegan diet is beneficial. Greg never claimed eating stacks of meat is healthy. Hes all for a balanced diet. How can you argue with that?
can you even understand an analogy?
He wasn't wrong when he said you have over triple the subscribers and get half the views
Cuz VG makes Crap Content
because this VG is boring
This comment is underrate as fuck
dude looks fat all year round says hes a body builder but is fat as powerlifter but weak as girl
@@JulesD92 5 hour livestreams are not everyone's cup of tea
Sorry I’m still sticking with the doc on this one
What’s his credentials?
@@StellarPlagues are you fucking kidding? Go check his page he's got credentials coming out of every orifice
@@TheOneAndOnlyJimmyD IFBB Pro, Master's in Kinesiology and more than a decade of experience in the field as a pro bodybuilder and lifter. That is honestly not that much credentials that it would be coming out of every orifice. Also he is not a doctor. Not saying that he doesn't know what he is talking about I just believe there are other people with a lot more credential especially when it comes to nutrition that has way more knowledge and experience than him, especially someone who specializes in nutrition or biochemistry. The same can be said for VG. Both have their biases.
He is not a doctor by the way. Master's in Kinesiology and a pro bodybuilder, but not a doctor.
But I do agree with a lot what Greg said regarding this topic.
Luciano Willemse it’s a joke because he says he’s not a doctor at the beginning of every video
Didnt greg go through every study in that meta analysis?
Yes he did. VG is doing the same cherry picking he accused Greg of.
yes he very much did. How is reporting each study IN THE META ANALYSIS, cherry picking?
Steve Doucette i didn’t accuse him of cherry picking 🥴
@@wrigh2uk sorry that comment wasn't directed at you. I was agreeing with you. This video frustrates me because of my background in biostatistics. It bugs me that vegan gains can actually fool people, yet when I watch this, he's just making a fool out of himself. Problem is, you need a solid understanding of stats to see why.
Upvote Brandan Stamm's comment
Thank you so much vegan gains for introducing me to Greg.
I say this while eating French toast
Same this is how i found out about Dr. Greg and he is amazing
King
I’m vegan but I really like Greg
Accurate! Love coach Greg
Ayy low cal French toast
I've been eating a diet of only raw beet juice for the last 2 weeks. Bench press is up 5102%
That's some vegan gains right there! LMFAO
Is beet juice a euphemism for roids? Because if so Greg has been doing that for a long time.
@@cynicalidealist11 And .. ?? Were you going to add something important or interesting to that sentence?
LMAO!!
I hit a max bench of 350 on monday.. if i drink beat juice tm ill be able to bench atleast 450!..
Fucking idiots
Btw, you tell us Greg is lying all the time and then you mention this UK study of all-cause mortality and say: "only the vegans and vegetarians had a statistically significant reduced risk of all-cause mortality". Where the hell did you get that??? Allow me to cite the actual study:
RESULTS: There was no significant difference in overall (all-cause) mortality between the diet groups: HRs in low meat eaters, fish eaters, and vegetarians compared with regular meat eaters were 0.93 (95% CI: 0.86, 1.00), 0.96 (95% CI: 0.86, 1.06), and 1.02 (95% CI: 0.94, 1.10), respectively
CONCLUSION: United Kingdom-based vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality. Differences found for specific causes of death merit further investigation.
Do you really think your audience is that stupid, you moron? Incredible. Why the hell do you follow this idiot, people?
What's the link to this study?
Yes he does think his audience is stupid enuff to take his word and they do...glad u looked into it an debunked his nonsense....
Lmao wrecked.
Holy shit ur actually right, he shows the study but if you read like literally 2 rows above what he points out it says EXACTLY the opposite.Jesus Christ, I actually used to kinda root for this guy as he seemed a smart dude but lately all I see is him bein a total tinfoil bum who is now also a liar.Great Job pointing it out tho!
John Wick greg docuette is the god of honesty, all these other fitness youtubers give half truths that make u feel stupid, because u respect them and follow them for months or years only for them to expose themselves, not saying I followed vg.
He said "How u vegan and still fat???" lmaooooooooooo
trapd00rspider when he was 14 years old he was able to bench 230 pounds, he wieghted about 140, and he was natural, your claims on “we should follow someone who does drugs” are irrelevant. He is a Certified Nutritionist, not a fat vegan who lies about quotes and bash other fitness youtubers. He admits it’s a dumb idea, but he encourages being natural to ALL of his clients, he done multiple videos were he gives reasons not too, Greg knows what he is talking about, he has facts and evidence to back up every claim, you’re a straight moron and have ZEERROOOOOOOOOoooo chance of being given the same useful information from vegan gains
“we shouldnt listen to someone who’s taken steroids”***
trapd00rspider plus btw he’s fat cause he aint on a calorie deficit 😭
@trapd00rspider yeah a diet of someone who lives at eating french fries all the time
From your prospictive you connot get lean naturally and you must remain fat because that you r natural
because he looks fat and can't do 5 pullups?
You accuse him of cherry picking ?! The irony.. lol
How did he cherry pick?
Go on then. Let's here it, where did VG cherry pick?
@@funkyfranx did he mention the beet juice???
Toothless vegan gains entire TH-cam channel is cherry picking
Toothless go watch Greg’s video where right after his electricity analogy, he explains exactly why it’s harder to get protein as a vegan. But Richard completely ignores that and tries to make his electricity analogy a point against Greg.
Pro bodybuilder with a master in kinesiology...
The other a random vegan who thinks he knows it all cause he cherry picks studies...
Yeah i wonder whose right
Pro builder...soooooo, took roids early in his lifting. Never broke the natty ceiling still uses them and is a master at theory?..left behind from another theorist?.nah proof is in the pudding both these ass clowns dont know shit.
nomar manuel-munoz Those studies are perfectly fine he’s an idiot
Mister Natural Greg’s been natty till he turned 30, I believe him.
Mister Natural also the guy knows his shit dude, I’ve been following the guy for a bit and his diet/training advice has helped me out a lot.
Thank you 👌
Mmmm if anyone happens to give a damn, Gregs right. Sorry Richard.
Richard is right. Greg is wrong. Unlike Greg, Richard actually uses science while Greg uses juice lol. Watch this video and look at the evidence, studies, and research that Richard references.
@@Carl-jg4fo go watch greg shit all over richard and how he is not educated enough on these studies to even make an unbiased judgement on them 😂 greg ripped this guy to shreds
@@samueljohnson9915 Which video?
@@Carl-jg4fo yes the guy with the phd in kinsiology is wrong unlike Richard who has...? Greg had trained naturally for over 20 years, and he literally became a natural bodybuilding champion before deciding to go on steroids. You don't even know what you're saying, you sound as bad as the stupid guy in the video right now
@@lax1e676 You should definitely watch Richard's video. Unlike Greg, Richard uses evidence. The only thing that Greg did was ramble and talk a lot. I challenge you to find a point in Greg's video where he uses studies and research to refute the Game Changers. If you can't then you have to become vegan.
I was watching this and I'm like "wow Greg is still right"
Greg is always right...i just watch some vegan gain videos because i cant believe how can one guy says so many bullshit in one video. The guy is amazing never fails to suprise me by how moronic he is
loukas antoniou mad?
That means your cognitive bias is through the roof
All you’ve stated here is that you have the mentality of a cult member.
I’m reading this and I’m like “wow Alex is still a D rider”
I like VG but even I see that he's lost here..
how can you like him? he tryed to film his grandpa while he had a heart attack and died, just to prove a point. lol and he made a video about he was pissed off cuz his family didn't let him do that. hes a psychopath. :O
@@dowzy8498 Maybe I don't like him as a person but I enjoy some of his content. Find them funny and also agree with a few points.
@@GrenadR mhh okay sometimes hes right, but hes way to extrem mostly
@@dowzy8498 How does that affect his arguments? What are these retarded ad homs.
@@dowzy8498 Since when did being extreme affect your advocacy for your cause?
"He miss quoted me", *follows to show the exact quote Greg used*
Davy Peters honestly 🤦♂️
He means taking it out of context
@@CoulRanch greg responded to all the studies and "points" if you could even call them that VG got shat all over
Samuel Johnson what
Flow Bandz How did he take it out of context? It is exactly what he said and meant.
Trying to get fame off someone's back who is probably twice your age and looks 100x better than you.
and has almost 40 years of experience or bodybuilding & nutrition & a degree in kinesiology, also another 10+ years of personal experience on steroids, whilst you just seem to be talking out your ass
Coming from a loser who watches Kohavision
TrassseB because doing steroids and having double the experience isn’t a factor.
@@StellarPlagues steroids are great only pussys have something against them and yes his experience is great
@@bcruzx6557 me watching a news chancel makes me a loser... well done
TrassseB its a darn shame this guys channel is dying. I’m literally watching this to see how he trys to fight Greg’s logic
Naaaa vegan gains he went through all the study's that's why his video was so long it seems your doing what u are accusing him of
no
@@blazecosko7506 Uh, yes.
Dude is such a fucking whiney little pussy
I love how people use this "debate me" as an argument "well if you know it so well why dont you depate me then" vegan gains uses it all the time as an argument
Again let me see who won this one, a bodybuilder with a master in kinesiology or a random vegan dude, hmm
What does kinesiology have to do with diet?
@ he's a master in this lane. While being natty for 20 years and later he started using steroids.
Appeal to profession?
The bodybuilder
@youngbuck0911
Because Greg just magically gained his "knowledge" without learning it from anyone ? - what a non-sensical argument.
What does bodyfat, have to do with knowledge and intellect? - again, non-sensical argument.
It's very obv which one of them knows how to break down studies/research, are we even watching the same thing?
I remember the days when Richard used to yell on camera like Greg. Those were the days
Blacknight00D he got off the juice and amphetamines
Blacknight00D he just matured since then he still does it sometimes but in a funny way
- complains when people cherry pick evidence
- cherry picks evidence routinely
Pick both
Dude why would you go against Greg Doucette he obviously is a better resource than you are. Few people want to listen to some soft spoken non lifter.
This guy sounds like Iago from Aladdin
I literally just thought that after like 2 mins into the video
This joke is outdated already
I didn't know who he until the 1st video over this and that's all that crosses my mind.
lol for real
Tony Jay yooooooooo hahaha
Good thing you have a masters degree in kinesiology
😂😂😂...h.s drop out....and not like the ooo cause he went on to create myspace or facebook...no just rant lethargicly for veganism
Bringing up a Masters in Kinesiology is silly considering the topic of this video is nutrition.
Kinesiology is the study of movement by the human body. None of which has to do with nutrition 🙄😆✌
@@Doridoesthings you don't have a degree do you?
@@Skill_Issue92 sure do. Bachelors in Health Science 👍
A Dori Type Situation kinesiology is much deeper then merely the study of movement.
Bro what’s your physique like? Your channel is called vegan gains, but I’ve been looking threw your videos & I don’t see much “gains”
Look at the profile pic🤦🏿♂️stop hating
That's his channel name. Do you expect every firearm at the Forgotten Weapons channel to be a forgotten weapon aswell or no?
Vegan No GaInS
Dude is a joke
More like fat gains
Where tf did you get that greg bashed one study and therefore makes him wrong? Dude literally pointed out the inherent flaws in like 6 of the studies🤦🏽♂️.
I love how people use this "debate me" as an argument "well if you know it so well why dont you depate me then" vegan gains uses it all the time as an argument
@@darthsidius9631 its the same as offering cage fights. He's an idiot who can't defend his points when his opponent has time to research
3:24 your rebuttal was a misinterpretation of Greg's point. While larger sample sizes do provide more consistent results, they don't improve the accuracy of them if the data sample was skewed(Greg's point). You made a point that Greg is biased and isn't correctly analyzing or even viewing sourced; however, at 9:00 we can see this claim paradoxical, as you cited a survey without mentioning the inaccuracies that even the source stated it had(didn't contain a nutritional biomarker). Additionally, you criticized Greg for cherry picking weaker evidence when you failed to address a multitude of evidence he brought forth. You went as far as saying that the inherent benefits of a vegan or vegetarian diet is "undeniable" which if you know anything about scientific research, is either a hyperbole or a ridiculous statement.
And it seems like u look like a puffy boy
For a vegan you sure are picking a lot of BEEF lmao
Hey it me
@@invisibleman240 pology essepted
🤣
Sorry dude I'm currently studying clinical nutrition and a lot of people are wrong about veganism a balanced diet is the proper way to go no one should be pure carnivore or pure vegan or vegetarian our bodies were meant for balance I was vegan for a yearl in college I was put in the hospital for muscle wasting because I was born disabled I use my upper body all day therefore I wasn't getting proper enzymes there certain enzymes that should be gotten from me for some people I applaud anyone trying to live a healthy lifestyle but the problem is bigens want everyone to be vegan but that diet doesn't work for everyone just like vegetarianism does not work for everyone or carnivore specific diet excetera excetera... Greg doucette promotes a balanced diet.
Vegan gains looks like shit, sounds like shit, is boring as shit. And should not have a TH-cam channel.
Sucks to be Gregg and his fans, so cocky yet behaves like an IQ moron. Rip
“Who’s the dum dum now Greg?” 3.5 thousand dislikes later I think we all know 😂😂😂
Appeal to popularity: popularity≠factuality. At one point 100% of Europe thought that the earth was flat.
VG was right and he’s got the evidence to back him up. Where’s poor Greg’s?
Vegain gains , I’d say you wud argue with yourself in the shower , Greg Made bits of you ,game over 💪
Professional bodybuilder with a masters in kinesiology, 40 years experience both naturally and enhanced.
verses a random vegan dropout who cherry picks studies...
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Experience Fallacy, Appeal to tradition, and well poisoning. Fallacy galore.
@Caliph Cordoba I don't care what most people think thats ad populum, buddy.
@@TheLegend-wz1ye Cool did you just learn these terms in your 15 min online debate class?
@@cristianlopez-mendez537 I like how you're dodging my message, buddy. If it's not so hard than respond with an argument that doesn't violate logic.
@@TheLegend-wz1ye Wow you responded quick. You must of been on standby.
I am not dodging any messages. It's just your comment made you look like you have your head up your ass, a common symptom from VG fans.
Why do you show fat bicep?
Its so avarage... you make fun of yourself
So, after the analogy, Greg does explain his point of view on why is harder to get protein.
You're being biased.
I can’t stand vegan gains attitude reminds me of my 6 year old niece
How do you even have subscribers. Like actually. You’re boring, condescending, and wrong about everything. Lol
Im wondering about that too.
Luke Mantini u can buy them from Bangladesh 😂🤣
Vegan gains is obese lol
Cant believe I used to watch you before finally seeing the light about a year or so ago.
Only come back to see this as I just watched Greg's video where he tore you a new one! Greg, by the way is probably the best fitness TH-camr out there at the moment. You could learn a thing or two from him.
I think I felt this guy spit in my face through the screen
Same here! He's one step away from foaming at the mouth!
@@WhatIsAge this is perfect lmao
Meat will always be needed to stay healthy if you like it or not
It’s just a fact, we are omnivores without meat we will miss vitamines that we need to stay healthy just accept that being vegan is not gonna help your own body.
No, you don't need meat to be healthy. You can get your vitamins on a vegan diet. Omnivore just means that you are able to eat both and extract nutrients from both, but you do not need to eat meat or animal products to be healthy. If we can't be vegan, then I wonder why I'm not dead yet.
I eat chicken or fish occasionally but meat definitely isn't necessary to be healthy, that's a ridiculous statement.
XD this is like Samsung vs apple comments
SAMSUNG is meat and that’s why this comment gets liked more
Dumb mcsuck is right and if you don’t agree..........
*I WILL SEND YOU TO GULAG*
Holy crap, Kenny KO and Scott Herman just called him out today too. Dang Greg, what have you done lmao!
Like Kenny KO has any credibility
Just Some Guy without a Mustache dude you in every channel I watch wtf
Kenny KO copies other peoples content, he got terminated for that once
tree Kenny KO definitely copies other people’s content but he lost his channel for selling sarms which violates TH-cam’s policies.
@@MrPayne-sl1ku holy shit really? How can he be so dumb and sell sarms on yt. He might as well hold up a sign that sais: please terminate me!!
I am vegan and I watch both your channel and Greg’s channel. It really sucks that you both have to engage in this tit for tat bullshit and it makes me not want to watch either of your channels anymore. It’s really immature and annoying
1:15 just keep pressing it 😂
Who else knew this video was coming because his channel is dying? He seriously milks the shit out of every situation to fund his shitty relationship and boring life
Vegan Gains is still the dumb dumb.
My mans gona pass ur subs i a matter of weeks 😂
I'm starting to get a little tired of all these petty arguments going back and forth from all these TH-cam fitness guys.. They're starting to remind me of suburban soccer moms who have nothing better to do but find fault with others..
Why did you click on this?
I subscribed to vegan gains the other day because I was impressed with his knowledge and his passion for training, but now I'm getting a little turned off..
Well then he should def stop making vids calling out idiots spreading misinformation that gets hundreds of thousands of views because you're turned off 🙄
@@Thehubb1 By no means should he stop doing what he's doing, his channel is doing great, good for him, I wish him the best.. But I only want to invest my time watching videos that will help motivate me with new ideas and make my workouts more productive, not watching guys gossiping about eachother..It's just silly in my oinion, if you enjoy it, well then good for you!
@@QueensNativeNYC standing by while morons do bad thing is how we came to have a brain dead idiot in the white house dude. Someone has to call them out. No one is forcing you to watch
I wish somebody would knnock this fucking know it all crying little bitch off of youtube
This man voice makes me want to put my head thru a window......
Just put his through one instead, he's like 4ft 5 look at these short arms flapping as he talks
@@hungryshark9722 he's on roids and it's not nearly as difficult for tiny short little guys to get muscularity, he's tiny in terms of size and height and big muscles on a short roided guy aren't impressive.
@@hungryshark9722 His voice is still annoying as hell though
@@hungryshark9722 You should learn proper grammar and spelling.
@@pl3459 so you say 880 lbs deadlift is easy?
U are to dumb men 🤦♂️
dunning kreuger effect is strong with VG
Mfw u call greg a cherry picker while ur channel does nothing but this
Not everyone wants yo deprive themselves of things that tastes good. Stop.bashing people for eating meat.. yo u dont and you still look fat and out of shape
This back and forth can be adequately be summed up as:
“No you’re the liar”
Yup it's so unproductive
@@jakob9942 I disagree. It can show potential bad actors in any kind of discourse. If VG is right and he deliberately cherry picked and ignored data than he can't be trusted on nutrition advice (especially regarding nonvegan vs. vegan diets).
I don't care what team you think you're on but team truth doesn't want dishonest bad actors that have proven to cherry pick and ignore higher level research to promote their own bias.
Kaweta “if VG is right” how about you go watch gregs entire video yourself and come to your own conclusions.
@@wrigh2uk that's what I did and vegan gains seems to be at fault in my conclusion
VG is clearly able to understand and explain the science while Gilbert Godfried on steroids has to resort weak analogies and misrepresenting studies.
Okay, to the point where you make fun of greg screaming because he said you don't need "evidence" to show that an omnivore diet is easier than vegan:
How is it not harder, when you literally can't go shopping "blindfolded" in a normal shop (junkfood/ bad foods aside, it's about "difficulty" here, not health) and just get what you want?
Additionally, his example with the winter clothing is actually pretty easy to understand, not sure why you say it's an argument, it's just an example that shows you can stay warm one way or the other, but the other one is undoubtely more difficult/ more complex. Applying this to the vegan vs omnivore diet, literally everyone should understand what he meant.
you're right, but it's pointless. It's also easier to lay in bed and die, than go to work for 40+ years. The information to plan action as an individual is related to the primary goal of survival, which takes effort. You just balance it by choosing the path with least resistance to achive maximum values happiness.
Nikola Tesla Yes, but I don’t wanna die though 😅
No need to take it so far, it’s easier to go to a shop and get what you want instead of being limited to let’s say half of the stuff
That’s the only thing I wanted to address
@@bobbarker399 I completly understand the point. But it's a naive fallacy (Milchmädchenrechnung :D). It's literally a dozen hours to get the information and plan actions accordingly for years of healthy living with better bloodflow, saved time on recovery, doctor visits, getting pills and so on. I think the latter option is much harder for me, despite beeing a procrastinator
You are so full of shit.
Calling greg a liar in itself proves how delusional u are.
Damn you get fucked on everything you stupid shit
When a high school moron tries to tell a m.s. how to do science
It's actually a perfect analogy. It doesn't have to have anything to do with nutrition you dense moron, hence why it's called an analogy!
Greg should accept the debate challenge, or he should accept he doesn't know what he's talking about.
what's is he going to debate? that they both agree that the vegan diet is good and viable for building muscle and staying healthy? Because that's literally what he said on both of his videos.
@@juanmanuelgonzalezalmenare4754 That eating meat is healthy, which it isn't.
Stop being a blind lapdog
@@hungryshark9722 and it has heavy metals, heme iron, cholesterol, saturated fats that are the worst for heart health. You can get omega 3 from nuts and seeds whithout risks factors. Oh and if it's farmed fishyou can forget the omega 3s unless they are supplemented.
Debate with a rather radical activist, who claims for himself the interpret primacy about the quality of evidence? Doesn't sound like alot of fun, or what do you think? VG will just doubt the validity of every study that doesn't support his ideology, calling it industry propaganda or anything of that kind. That's no basis for a worthwhile debate.
@@GamesonQ 😂😂😂
vegan fat cherry pick like the fat vegan he is lol
Thank you for pushing me towards 2 Greg videos I’m now a subscriber. His videos are very helpful and entertaining. I think he won this one.
U literally just went based off the video what a joke that video had so much broken facts I’m with my boi Greg here.. by the way Greg literally states “it’s harder to get protein as a vegan because not many people know about the beans and tufu for protein” and he’s also says it’s harder because you eliminate a food group that sounds pretty true to me but what does he know
Haven't visited your channel in many years. Still have more dislikes than likes, and you still have the most punchable face I've ever seen.
QUICK EVERYONE GET YOUR BEET JUICE BEFORE IT SELLS OUT WOOOOOO MY BENCH IS GOING UP 19%
@Vegan Gains What amazes me is how you think you’re so intelligent that you can’t see through his intelligence cleverly disguised in his acts? He’s actually very intelligent, but CHOOSES to dumb down the info to make sure most “morons” can understand the info he is given.
Are you seriously not able to comprehend what he means by when he made the point that you argued for him about how much harder it is for vegans? You stated that you just have to know what to pick. His point was how was that not harder for most, more normal average people who don’t know as much about nutrition and such. Also, planning your meals? How many more normal, average people actually plan and to what extent do they really plan their meals?
His point about research as he took classes that taught him about how research is flawed, and there’s no definitive results on diets affecting people- did YOU purposely not pay attention and try to understand the info. Research is flawed, and especially when it comes to research on diets- they don’t truly paint the whole picture, especially because of human nature to forget, omit, and many other variables. Do you truly believe that diet research can account for every variable that could have a major impact?
I don’t know if you truly believe what you’re saying, or if you’re just acting to defend yourself. The one clear difference between you and Greg is that he cares a lot about the information he shares to make sure that the average Joe or moron gets it, to make it more accessible and understandable to follow. You seem like you are just trying to sound smarter by talking all science and such, and you don’t make your information as appealing and understandable for a wider audience.
Word of advice- if you truly want to make veganism more appealing and for more people to follow it- don’t try to sell it from a health angle, and this is from me. Because I guarantee you- MOST people DON’T fucking care about the health this, health that. They want food that tastes good and that they can easily access. It’s that simple. Think about the average person and really how much they care about health. Again, that’s IF you want to make veganism more appealing and for more people to follow.
Gilbert Godfrey of steroids 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Damn, not reading the comments I was thinking just the same! Even searched for Gilbert's name on "The roast of..." 😂
On *
Greg: Yells at a camera and audience believes everything. VG: reads the actual study and shows it to audience, audience dislikes it. Audience pretty much just wants good news about their bad habits same as always. Ethical eating has always been for the brave few that are willing to do the right thing despite mainstream barbarism, group think, and social pressure. Not surprising given human being’s dismal history as a violent species. I support you VG love your channel and content keep up the good work.
Notice when he said I'm not going to go through everything Greg said to keep it short. That's some bull you just know he's right about most of it and cherry picked his video
Vegan gainz, you are fat and annoying
Getting my popcorn
Let’s be honest Vegan gains it’s clear harder to get adequate protein on a vegan diet compared to a well balanced diet especially if you’re following a low carb diet say getting ready for a bodybuilding show. You walk into a grocery store meat everywhere protein everywhere. You’re vegan? Now you gotta search for lentils , beans, tofu that’s high in protein and I’m sure when you’re vegan you goto specific grocery stores bc they carry certain vegan products you’re looking for. When you follow a well balanced diet with meat protein you can go into any grocery store mom and pop or corporate chain and BOOM no issues finding protein bc they will have all kinds of meat. Let’s not talk about eating out on the go looking for something high protein. I can eat anywhere and have no problems. You’re vegan you’re gonna have a hard time finding a high protein meal on the go. This is coming from a guy who lives in NYC where the amount of vegan friendly places are a lot higher then other places. You’re 100% wrong on this one buddy.
I agree with your video and am vegan, but you have to stop saying "according to latest cohort out if uk only vegans had statistically significant reduction in all cause mortality."
Literally one line above it says " there was no different in risk between diet groups for all causes of death combined"
If you actuslly look at the study this data is from, the oxford study, theres no difference. So bad point. You should use Adventist data instead.
Exotic Parallel if ure really a vegan i respect u for not being blind and seeing the idiocy of vegan gains
23 year and 40+ body building shows as natural lifter ,10+ years as enhanced lifter , IFBB Pro , World records in lifting , Masters in kinesiology , 8% body fat and ton of muscles ,Years of coaching experience VS Fat obnoxious Vegan,. Hmmmm whom should I listen to? Quite hard !!
He explained how it's harder to get protein do to lack of choice , and ability to cook but OF COURSE YOU DONT ADDRESS THAT
This channel still sucks after all this time
@@nutta646 buying a variety of meals when you've been able to eat meat your whole life and then going to a much smaller variety is hard you won't know many recipes and will probably struggle getting full and finding food you'll enjoy he literally says you have to be more diligent to be vegan .. diligent means hard working...
@@lostimx mathematically you are obviously (should never use that word on the internet, I know) correct, in practise it couldnt be further from the truth. As I learnt to a eat whole food plant based diet I added much higher variety of foods, and realized how little I had before (I loved and ate hundreds of sausage variations, but in the end it's just meat with spices (a.k.a. plants))
@@__NikolaTesla__ you can't go from less to more by removing meat from your diet lol you're literally subtracting variety I don't hate vegans , but some kinda paint a biased picture , I'm pragmatic nothing bias is going to convince me otherwise
@@lostimx you completly didnt understand what I wrote. Try again
And you are STILL an idiot!
... Your comprehension skills suck if you can't figure out what Greg was talking about.
I love this petty ass shit! This is why I consistently come back lmao.
Is anyone right ever VG?
Yes, VG himself lol
There's a lot of charlatans and bullshit artists out there, and almost always there is financial motivation involved.
You're such a hypocrite. You don't listen to what Greg says either. He was saying it's harder to eat more protein in a vegan diet b/c not everyone knows what to eat. It's NOT common knowledge. Any simpleton knows that meat has protein in it but I didn't even know what satin was nor the nutrition facts and most people don't. And do you know what an analogy is? Clearly electricity isn't related to nutrition... He was saying no shit you can get adequate protein from a vegan diet but turning on a light switch (eating meat) is easier. Idk how you can debate that. I don't have to look up if chicken or steak has protein. But wtf is in satin? And You don't need a scientific study to know that. Even tv advertises meat more than vegan food.
How do you not understand when Greg says it's harder to get protein in a vegan diet. Your a smart guy. When you are not vegan it doesn't mean you can't eat vegetables lol, so you can have chicken and tofu for example. He is saying that you have more choices of protein.
I suppose. I think Vegan Gains point is that getting protein is trivially easy for both diets, so to paint one as superior because of its supposed greater ease in getting protein is rather ridiculous.
@@kickedinchest8602 Exactly, well put.
U call Greg out for ignoring ur points and then u proceed to ignore some of his.🤦🏻♂️ Pretty hypocritical mate
When you can't back up a shitty documentary about a shitty diet, you make fun of an accomplished bodybuilder's voice, who by the way had no problem with veganism in general. Oh and when a person who happened to consume meat with other processed garbage you rejoice when they die from a heart attack which had nothing to do with animal products more than likely. Get a freaking life.
What's funny is that Greg only made one video about you and here you are making a second video about him because you can't handle the fact that he threw at you and so you're whining like a little girl in this video and cant take an "L" my guy. Meanwhile Greg Doucette has only been on TH-cam for a very little time and he doubled his escribers and you've been on TH-cam for how many years? It's pretty sad to see you girl in this phase and honestly you need to just quit :/
Jesus, 1000 dislikes. 😂
Why’s Greg old and ripped and you’re flabby and young !?! New nickname .. Vegan man boobs
I think ill believe Greg, who has a Masters in Kinesiology, is correct. As compared to you who is a biased vegan with no college education. Im not a fan of either of you two, however after watching videos from both of you, Greg is correct and you are just wrong and very blatantly biased towards veganism and just refuse to accept anything that is not vegan.
You're still a dumb dumb.. whats your background in education? And whats gregs? Ok
Maybe he meant that is more difficult to get your proteins in because the food volume would be much higher
Franck Calabró all I know is you can have a healthy diet eating meat also. These s**ts are killing me lol
Vegan Gains. The channel where the content is garbage and the creator sounds like a hormonal virgin who has a piece of asparagus stuck in his ass
If you close your eyes, you can see Steve from american dad having a debate with vegan gains :D
VG you're an absolute disaster.... I also hate your monotonic intonation, does being vegan make you a fucking robot?
Can't wait till Greg replies and shut's your annoying mouth.ALSO
I prefer Greg's spit over your boring videos.
I was gonna tell you why you're wrong, but I saw your like/dislike ratio and decided to let you live in your own world of BS
He sounds like Steve from American Dad! LOL
LMFAOOOOO BOY STOP !
ROFL
Your arm that you flex at the end of the video doesn’t even look like muscle! It looks more like fat then if anything! For a vegan you look like shit dude! Maybe you should change your diet bro
I'm sure Greg is an okay dude but that voice....... my sweet lord that voice
Still better than listening to the monotone voice of VG..
I prefer listening to someone with a higher pitch voice but can swing between high and low to give life in their speech rather than listening to a flat voice.
@@abeurakadabeura "Still better" lmao no, it's truly not 😂
@@abeurakadabeura im not going to argue which voice is more annoying, bigger things to worry about in all honesty
David Williams He Is lying into your Face and Is an idiot... And Takes DRUGS To get muscle.... Bit ok, Not much more wrong with him... At least As far As I Know.
@@meinname5788 hes not an idiot..and havent yet lied..and he is OPEN about his steroid use duh ...
Trash 🗑 🗑 🗑🗑🗑 all you did is try to say plant diet is better. He burned you his entire video. You cherry picked this bullshit ass response 😂😂😂
Is he yelling or does he normally sound like that? He seems very stressed.
It's the roids.
He isn't like that, just watch his old videos.
But he is way more entertaining when yelling and insulting people of morons.
And yeah he is probably stressed as he prepping for his contest.
High blood pressure from steroids
ASMRyouVEGANyet? I mean, when Vegan Gains talks loud, it is the same earrape. None of them sound good imo.
It’s not the roids, he does it on purpose for all us viewers. He is a really cool guy.
Bruh I was binging Greg’s vids and I accidentally clicked on this dickfaces video
Like all his facts are fucking shit