Count Noctilus Immortal Empires Campaign Review

[@kwdblade4683]

-20% upkeep for Noctilus Necrofex Colossus units (character trait)
-20% for max level ship (level 5)
-15% for Ship's Wheel
-15% for Coaming and Preservative blue line skill
-10% for Enduring Reanimation technology
-8% for black flag
= -88% upkeep for Necrofex Colossus
WOOF

[@Loewenphilosoph]

Fun campaign to do with him (although might not be for every): never conquer any territories, just keep the graveyard, have your fleet run around pillaging and burning, improve your fleets and be a menace on the high seas.

[@antcig]

Yes, i highly recommend this (although I also authorize myself the right to install pirate cove). Act like a pirate and attack any coastal settlement make for a very aggressive campaign because you basically never need to defend yourself and have a huge variety of foe.

[@goldensp3038]

@@antcig To bad Coves kinda suck.

[@Chtigga]

I agree. It's probably the campaign where you feel the most freedom.

[@SereglothIV]

That's what I did with him in the Vortex campaign. You can win it without taking any land, just sacking and pillaging.

[@SereglothIV]

​@@goldensp3038 Suck? Establish ones that steal 50% of income in some wealthy ports like Lothern and you're set.

[@Darth_Glorious]

Equip the "stalk banner" (in research tree) on a bloated corpse and you have an invisible bomb ready to blow up your enemies.

[@the_tactician9858]

Evil. I like it.

[@Tangomango1720]

Great idea!

[@IronSquid501]

oh you dirty dog

[@mohammadalinejati1921]

Lmfao im dead imagine them sending their Phoenix guards in a row...

[@bot_ave]

These campaign reviews have been a blessing lately, great and consistent content!

[@Coffeepotion]

Fun fact: You can *actually* play him like a true pirate! Instead of *taking* Ulthuan, you raze any settlement that does *not* have a harbour. You establish pirate coves in any harbour and leave the faction so weakened, they will likely be wiped. The new faction will often not be at war with you and you retain the income from their harbours. Then just roam around the world, doing island battles for cash and have atleast one hero establish more coves. Attack harbours whenever you feel like it and *always*! raze normal settlements since the AI rarely reconolizes them.

[@sultansaywell4038]

My pirate coves get removed whenever other faction attacked the port of my enemy. Why?

[@Coffeepotion]

@@sultansaywell4038 Maybe this was changed, but when I played a campaign like this they stayed. Only when you yourself take it or it is razed will they be removed (or atleast that's how it was for me)
Edit: Maybe they are removed when you have a specific building in the cove or if you are at war with the attacker?

[@bathroomlew]

It's an excellent Co-op Lord, if your friend is going with any of the "evil" factions; you can go wherever and support them and have plenty of movement range. My favorite combos are with Lokhir, Ikit Claw, Clan Pestilence, and Followers of Nagash.

[@quadg5296]

the vampire coast actually feel like pirates in wh3.
with fewer armies about, ports tend to get left undefended.
which makes pirate coves work.
and the new "trade region" is a great way to make peace once you have set up all your coves and robbed them blind.
raid their neighbour and get them a region. then get them another to make them fight someone else.
I actually don't want to paint the map my colour or wipe out all the factions.
because that would be inefficient.
its the pirates life for me.

[@official_kden]

when i played noctilus a couple months back i had my tier5 ship ready at like turn 25 and the full necrofex stack at turn 27. by turn 50 i had all of ulthuan under my control and used it as a base to conquer the shores of lustria and the old world. very fun campaign. even the basic missile zombies do hella work...and bloated corpses destroyed an entire elite unit never fail to amuse me

[@yosoy1loco]

Just some additional info on why you should not only doomstack Necrofex in WH3. Ignoring the ranged nerfs, the Depthguards were buffed in WH3, additionally to the changes to regeneration, which make them a lot stronger. Noctilus has also access to a special shipbuilding increasing their defense, besides the generic redline skills and his special upperline skills. Through Noctilus the Depthguard get absolute bonkers defensive stats like fucking heroes. When defending the Anti-Inf-version has 66 defense, and the Anti-large 74 defense. It makes sense to have like 4 of them in your army that can protect your colossi from anything dangerous that cannot be sniped until it reaches your army.

[@matteocopelli]

Thanks for your job Legend

[@bigmac8309]

slight correction - drowned dead isn't actually from lore of deeps, it's actually lore vampries, what vcoast vampires casters get instead of raise dead

[@dabbingtoast7743]

The one thing that always frustrated me greatly about the Vampire Coast is that they didn’t retroactively add the Greenskin style of confederation for the faction as a whole. Would’ve been awesome to have essentially 4 pirate bases to wage war in every area of the map.

[@gigahertz5528]

I wish so too but I feel like it would be too insane to get cylostra, luthor, and aranessa for 3 extra lords with ship building, for 8 lords with ship building it would be nearly impossible to really threaten the dreadfleet at that point

[@oswaldrabbit1409]

@@gigahertz5528 I agree. There should have been a custom method of confederation though.

[@valentijnbarendse9044]

Only problem I have with Count Noctilus is that when the elves are at war with you the will only focus you, especially averlon who just ignores the topside enemy's and after declaring war on you trows everything she has on you

[@alirezarezaei2976]

To be honest i still preffer Nouctilus's start position in WH2 over WH3
Because in WH2 galleon's graveyard was so untouched in the middle of the ocean so far from anybody except for eastern coast of lustria
You had so much options for which direction to pick for expanding
You could go for lustria or Ulthuan or even Stalia or Araby
The options was limitless
I even went for Sartosa and captured it and it was a nice base of operation to have in the Tillean border
The experience was far more exotic to mee in WH2 mortal empires rather than WH3 in my opinion
But here in WH3 the game already decided your direction by moving galleon's grave yard closer to ulthuan and placing Noctilus right next to caledur
I don't like this to be honest I hate ulthuan

[@dr.amazaier1772]

This dude has been terrorizing me during my Tyrion campaign.

[@ates423]

I literally didn’t take any territory, just kept the graveyard. If you take out just the first few settlements then loop back to Tyrion, spend all your growth points to get mortars as fast as possible, then you’ll be able to conquer all of ulthuan without taking any damage because mortar full stack is op against siege battles. After that try to get necrofex collosus and you’re good. Just raze every territory and establish as many pirate coves as possible.
Even with just one settlement you should be able to field 4 20 stacks of necrofex collosus by turn 80. The only downside of this campaign is all your autoresolves suck so you’ll have to fight everything manually

[@Dayz3O6]

Since it is easy for him to be ally with Arkhan, you can have an army of transformers (necrofex & hierotitan)

[@conorlinehan714]

Not without a mod your not

[@thomashanson7550]

@@conorlinehan714 Why would you need a mod for that?

[@Tejbegrizzly]

@@thomashanson7550 I assume because of the 4 allied units per army limit

[@NRSGuardian]

@@Tejbegrizzly But do you really want or need more than 4 Hierotitans along with your 14 or so Necrofex?

[@Eclipsed_Embers]

just 1 correction. Drowned Dead isn't actually a Lore of the Deep spell. it's not listed under any lore but is closest to being a Lore of Vampires spell. all the Lore of Vampires casters in the Vampire Coast roster actually have Drowned Dead instead of Raise Dead. the only summon in the Lore of the Deep is Denizens of the Deep which summons Rotting Prometheans.

[@user-gb6re4xv1e]

My favourite lord

[@Dartanis]

"Lets jump to the wall here and today..." I love youtubes auto generated subtittles

[@Dzeitov]

I don't understand his first sentence either. Is it something in the Inca lang?)

[@Axlamenace0]

I think there's a settlement/building that also gives -1 turn for necroflex so you don't even need the tech to get them in 1 turn

[@davidhenriksson285]

I wish we could confed v coast lords'

[@davidhenriksson285]

And some campaign love for Aranessa

[@bonalalie]

i always use the confed legendary lords mod for that because im' greedy and want em all too

[@goldensp3038]

They're pirates that basically hate each other. Especially Aranessa and Noctilus.

[@albertotejedorgauna]

​@@goldensp3038 well, dark elves also hate each other, but still can confederate

[@goldensp3038]

@@albertotejedorgauna But they don't. They have quite decent amount of respect to each other and someone like Malekith and Morathi are outright rulers of Dark Elfs.
There is no rulers in VCoast and everyone pursuing only their goal. Luthor is Crazy "Vampire King" who doesn't really have rule over other VCoast lords. Cylostra is a bretonian OC. And Aranessa with Noctilus are rivals.

[@molybdane7240]

Some quick additions to your assessement:
When expanding the flagship, get pirate crew growth asap.
Research the ships carpenter follower and exploit this follower by moving him to other pirate ships when necessary.
Depth guard are much better now in close combat, though they still don't like getting shot at.

[@doela-doel8270]

my favorite campaign after ikit claw, conquer ulthuan then you go anywhere as you see fit

[@p.e.4442]

Any shot we can get some guides for Troy? Nobody does good succinct guides like you man.

[@pizleg4203]

COUNT NOCTILUS REIGNS!

[@misterroberts344]

One of the more fun camps I've had, but definitely one I need more experience with the Coast to fully enjoy

[@joncarter3761]

This campaign is extremely difficult unless you are a very experienced aggressive player who tends to lose few troops per battle, if you mess up slightly and take too many casualties not only will all the HE factions declare war on you at the end turn, Morathi and the other DE across the sea will too... I went from 1 war to 7 on one end turn and then got stomped by 8 HE armies with 4 DE armies in the sea on their way.
This went from one of my favourite campaigns in ME to one I won't bother with anymore in IE. Even on easy campaign difficulty this is still quite difficult because the diplomacy is identical whatever the difficulty it seems and the anti-player bias plus a little HE racism means they'll all be at war with you within 30 turns.

[@ezbo1883]

Seems like Noctilus is more of a threat to Ulthuan than N'kari

[@MiguelSanchezDelVillar]

True, in 2 he sometimes managed to take out Caledor but he always ended getting his ass kicked and was eliminated later, now he seems to conquer half of Ulthuan most of the time

[@trixus4768]

Also, with Noctilus, you can zoom around the map like the maddest motherhumper ever. He has so many tools to increase his campaign movement range it's ridiculous😂

[@torquevonthorne948]

Under the sea, under the sea
Darling, it's better down where it's wetter
Take it from me
Up on the shore, they work all day
Out in the sun they slave away
While we devotin', full time to lootin'
Under the seeeeeea!!!

[@ToogyMcGee]

After plying a few times I totally agree! Nice job LoL. Knew supcriber here but been watching for over 1 year. How do I find out your live streem schedule?

[@caseyhalstead7689]

My current Aranessa campaign, necrofex recruit in 1 turn

[@regalgiant1597]

Leeeegend of tooooootal waaaar heeeeeeere.

[@sneakyJDG13]

My favorite legendary lord in the game. Colossus spam is so good and its easy to get there.

[@TisTheWay]

I'm excited to see the bars campaigning, and what you recommend for it.
Do you rush Archeon's base?
Do you ambush his army first?

[@Turkoktonos1]

Drycha next, pls

[@Ozonlolzon]

Could you do Gor'rek next? Im curious to see if Lord Kroak is actually as good as I think it is

[@juakingsf]

I love pirate coast😊
CURSE THE SUN!

[@alecshockowitz8385]

Kinda shocked you glossed over his war declaration missions.
They are OBSCENELY powerful.
Things like +20% Replenishment, +50% campaign movement range, +20% campaign movement range, +MD/MA for all armies.
With some luck you can very quickly get to over 200% campaign movement range by turn 10.

[@LegendofTotalWar]

temporary buffs aren't really worth noting

[@fluets5658]

With AI forming fewer confederations and getting overall less powerful in 3 than they were in 2, is it now more viable to play just sailing around establishing coves and conquering none of the mainland, or will you still get dragged into land wars like before?

[@Flyron32]

ayy

[@Dzeitov]

Ау

[@8heimdall8]

he s the coolest of the pirates !

[@quintjacobs2913]

I could recruit 1 turn necrofex with cylostra, how?

[@bigrockwall8700]

Zerg down Caledor and Tiranoc asap and sell to Tyrion. Tyrion will love you all game and you can go wherever you want with a huge stack of cash to upgrade your ship buildings with.

[@BigKevSexyMan]

I really wish there was a vampire coast faction in cathay.

[@davidb3155]

Just pick noctilus and travel to cathay in like 5 turns

[@olivierdomingue6312]

Could you make a video on how to defeat Helman Ghorst's op zombies? My usual armies have no trouble killing the rest of his armies, I also manage to kill a lot of them with artillery but then, once in melee and out of magic, no unit manage to dish out more damage than what they heal. I'd rather fight a whole elite vampire count army than his zombies. So far, the only units that may help are any form of flamethrowers, but these have a hard time firing on anything because of their line of fire and range.

[@leibster789]

If you do ranged army, don't waste ammo on zombies and focus core units (Lords, heroes, any mortis engine) with range and preserve big AOE for zombies
If you play melee, run down core units and then just go blob on blob
Anyway the best answer to zombies is blobing into AOE spells and flanking
With dwarves you can try to save charges on miners/ironbreakers, they pretty much melt zombies

[@Dante3214]

Vampire Counts main here. Leibster is right. A handful of dwarven miners with charges obliterate zombies. You might even be able to put miners behind other frontlines dwarves, and they might just throw the explosives over the heads of the other dwarves (I have not tested it). 3 irondrakes on a hill overlooking your frontline might be able to shoot down into the undead horde.
You basically want Ghorst to fall into your frontline in such a way that he bunches up. A tactic of VC is to create a dense blob. If you create a similar tight formation, then his army will be that much more clumped together too. Blobbing is very powerful for vampiric factions in particular (aoe healing and other mortis engine-like effects) but it is also a major weakness.
Hold on to your magic until you get them to this point, then lay down runes of wrath and ruin or any AOE damage spells.
Alternatively, find a way to destroy Ghorst himself

[@adriankoch964]

With undead you ALWAYS want to focus on killing lords, heroes and mortis engines as fast as possible. Once those are gone, the chaff will crumble away at ~50% damage if you leadership shock them. Fire lore is great vs Zombies and so is anything with explosive damage.
With Zombie chaff (boosted or not) it's also handy to have a small character with high melee defense and armor in the front so that your ranged units have a really nice and compact clump to fire into. Learning how to group targets is 101 ranged play. Even ghorsts elite Zombies will take a while to take something like a Dawi Lord (pick unbreakable trait at lvl ~15) or Thane with defensive gear and an ironwarden's tankyard down.
Rune of Spite is also very useful on that character, so make use of the instant gear swapping in Wh3. Get your lord the +ammo skills and remember that Master Engineers can rearm. Flame throwers melt zombies quick, but make sure to always fire into blobs so you get the most number of models per shot. if you have a Runesmith, the debuff rune is very useful as well and imo better than the buff rune, since it affects everything in a large area and turns Ghost's elite Zombies back into low tier trash.
Keep an eye out for any Mortis Engines and snipe them before your troops make melee contact. If they have fliers keep an infantry unit behind your arty, because for sure they'll try to rush it.

[@forsenlevel2425]

Rakarth next maybe?

[@mattandrews2594]

You do realise that Legend planned the order out WELL in advance? These were all filmed ages ago and are all on an automated release schedule. What's the point asking him who to cover next when it's already set?

[@forsenlevel2425]

@@mattandrews2594 autism forsenLevel

[@mrakota01]

for all of you ez-moders..........how u efficiently siege early game? please do not reply if you dont play L/vh.
Cuz i get shredded even if they have 2 archers since VC infantry is crazy slow.

[@GhostRider-eq3ki]

Legend your not upside down mate earth is flat ! 😎

[@owlboy4923]

Noctilus doesn't cast from the lore of the deep. The drowned zombies is still a vampire spell but specific to the vampire coast vampire casters.

[@dmitryperman9586]

1 gold upkeep was shown on the channel with this doomstak

[@rafelneo]

Is it me or the volume is a little low?

[@garrettcolon20]

I was actually suffering with him, because I had no idea how to counter high elf archers, until I realized I can kite the archers

[@Samagachi]

You have artillery, too

[@donkey9113]

I’m starting to suck at my campaigns again because I don’t have the guidance of you livestreams anymore xD

[@kleen8803]

I hoped they reworked vc,i cant stand making coves and being helpless for 2 turns. forced on land,all movement to get disembarked... Il probly just become a realestate agent to i get vamp captains-.-

[@epicpoopgaming2423]

legend, would you think a pirate cove only playthrough would be feasible for noctilus? by that i mean sacking then coving port settlements, and your only real settlement being the galleon's graveyard
it sounds silly but at the same time, the upkeep reductions from the vamp coast semi-horde lords could make it quite possible i feel, and if doable could make for a very silly, fun and open-ended campaign

[@iceweaver9283]

You can, and it is my prefferred way of playing him actually. Almost nobody ever comes for graveyard and at worst you can put a army there to defend, then go around with noctilus sacking, razing, making pirate coves, you can travel the whole map being a pirate without taking a single settlement and it is one of the most fun things to do

[@dreadnaught6842]

Does anyone know what happened to the second Skarbrand campaign?

[@DiesNahts6969]

Legend I played Cylostra the other day up to turn around 130 and i could recruit necrofexs in 1 turn. im not sure what skills or items did it but im certain it was just 1 turn too

[@b2modby]

I think they reduced recruit time for collosi to 2 turns base, so just with that research it gets to 1.

[@BlackBirdOni]

Every 10th of the same recruitment building reduces global recruitment time by 1 turn, should bei possible by turn 130

[@DiesNahts6969]

@@BlackBirdOni huh thats weird cuz i only really built out her ship and maybe 1 or 2 of the necrofex buildings

[@DiesNahts6969]

@@b2modby yeah i thought it was 2 too

[@MiguelSanchezDelVillar]

In global recruitment the Colossus takes 4 turns but only 2 in local, after researching a specific tech the local drops to 1 turn but the global stays at 4 turns

[@danielcreamer9669]

Curious which is the hardest Vampire Coast faction Cylostra?

[@Dante3214]

I have only played Harkon and am familiar with Noctilus so I can't say for sure, but I would think you are right. Aranessa has a somewhat defensible starting position, and Noctilus might have the best start in the game in my opinion (other than Be'lakor). Harkon somewhere in the middle but you're a pirate you can kinda just fk off if you have too and you'll be fine.
Cylostra starts with some powerful enemies above and below her, so it seems rough.

[@Lones555]

I would assume Aranessa, terrible lord, terrible "faction unique" units, terrible start location, no magic line and she isn't undead so can't be healed. Cylostra's starting army is pretty strong and she has less fearsome starting enemies around her.

[@mareks7129]

I am playing this campaing right now and its the most funniest i have ever played, yooho pirate life ☠️☠️☠️

[@dsgsdgs6634]

What do u think of doing Boris next?

[@MrAracag]

Didn't vampire coast have the hunger trait?

[@steakdriven]

The fact that they start so close to Ulthuan is absolute BULLSHIT. IT makes any high elf campaign a massive pain in the cock because Noctilus steamrolls everything with his starting army - you don't even get one turn in before he already has all of Caledor and most of Tiranoc.

[@winterscoutanimations5708]

Count Noctilus in my campaign can currently 1v1 and entire enemy defending army in a siege battle using nothing but that pole arm

[@winterscoutanimations5708]

(And the sword of khaine giving him around 65% ward save)

[@Dimitriterrorman]

I havent seen any sea battles in wh3

[@user-tf9gr8hn6i]

Noctilus isn't actually a triple lore caster, he has no lore of the deep spells. Also, his spells are no more effective than those of a generic caster hero, so spending points on making him a caster is just a complete waste. His mount drops his melee stats, and it's ranged attack is worse than an experienced Necrofex's - meaning you should *not* use it.
Necrofex recruitment is also bugged again (same bug got fixed in WH2), you get 1 turn recruitment with all factions. Though regardless of this the best VC faction is surprisingly Aranessa's in WH3. Necrofex are substantially weaker in WH3, not stronger - this stems from the default unit scale being bigger and single entities not scaling their damage accordingly, all ranged attacks having gotten nerfed a lot, and single entities having wounds (though this hardly matters in comparison).

[@ruukinen]

Are you saying Noctilus is better on foot than riding a necrofex? On what grounds?

[@user-tf9gr8hn6i]

If all you have is your starting Necrofex you can put him on his mount to get some additional firepower, but once you can recruit them (and arguably even before) you should indeed let him go on foot.
The reason being that any generic Necrofex is better at shooting than Noctilus will be, but you have nothing in your entire faction that is as good a frontliner as foot Noctilus. Don't let yourself get fooled by the big HP pool, Noctilus is *much* more durable on foot, and vastly more effective in melee.

[@CJ-wh7ik]

Anti climating. I highly discourage doing so

[@ruukinen]

@@user-tf9gr8hn6i You could just summon zombies to tank though. I don't see a point in not having him on the necrofex.

[@user-tf9gr8hn6i]

I suppose then you've just never fought a Feral Carnosaur / dragon stack on legendary difficulty. Or any actually tough battle.

[@drchaos2000]

noctilus is best to grab the sword of khaine too... i mean you dont conquer as a pirate.. you just raze stuff so who cares for order

[@dragonfist]

you did not mentioned anything about vamp coast mechanics :/

[@LegendofTotalWar]

talked about them in the previous one with Luthor Harkon. Figured it wasn't worth repeating myself.

[@OmarMohsen8982]

Hopefully the police captured the thieves that broke into your house

[@jaegergames7042]

Easily the most enjoyable campaign in the game, purely because it's so damned open ended.

[@nailigniststarzear6689]

rush Mortar building then get 4 mortars
literally destroy anything in early game and make major siege become joke

[@ruukinen]

Why get any of the recruitment buildings when you can just raise dead?

[@jardakkspiritfang5962]

So, I might've missed something, but are there just no more disaster battles or something? I'd even take a doomstack video at this point and those generally bore me.

[@annominous826]

Don't count your Noctilus before they hatch.

[@BrixBG]

Awesome campaign until everyone around ulthuan declared war on me around turn 40 and started invading...

[@rickylahey657]

Honestly his campaign is boring to me because it's so easy, after turn 40 I usually have won

[@blame7121]

It's just that... Doomstacks are boring. Especially in a faction with so many cool units. Gunners, bombers, cannons, ghosts, giant hermit crabs, so on and so forth.. all wasted.

[@jarrettbobbett5230]

IM so Disappointed with this game.
As a Empire fan there has been very little improvements over the past 3 games.

[@punkdrunkmonk824]

Dude your coming out with too many videos at once.
Algorithm would say post a video every 3 days for proper flow.

[@AlexTailor1992]

I hope, ca make living pirates like aranessa, and undead.

[@sicthemutt]

Nice

[@bingewatchshorts]

What happens when you get khains sword? Does every faction and the chaos come after you?

[@Samagachi]

You get a penalty to diplomacy for all factions