State Testing... The Bane of Our Existence!

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  • @ashleyr8765
    @ashleyr8765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +584

    It wouldn't surprise me if they purposely trip the kids up on the test. That is how testing companies justify their existence. "See you need more testing because the kids are clearly not being taught everything they need to know".

    • @ashleyr8765
      @ashleyr8765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Brendan Brasseur actually I think you make very valid and reasonable arguments. I had not considered that reasoning. I was being cynical because I am not a fan of the testing in general and feel time could be better spent on finding ways to meet students where they are versus teaching to an arbitrary test.
      Your reasoning is most likely correct though. Thank you for pointing out a valid reason to me. It has been a long time since I have been in the classroom as a student or teacher (I taught kids too young for the standardized testing)..

    • @ashleyr8765
      @ashleyr8765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Brendan Brasseur I do want to add that the critical thinking and swapping up is fine as along as it is developmentally appropriate.

    • @AnastasiaPlantlegs
      @AnastasiaPlantlegs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I went to high school in Connecticut and for the SATs, the teachers literally told us to be careful because the test is designed to mess with you. It's so weird and fucked up, like you don't have to just be a memorization machine, you also have to be clever and know when you're being fooled

    • @nitaros7282
      @nitaros7282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s how teachers are paid based off by their students state test grades so the teachers try their best.

    • @rubynelson1164
      @rubynelson1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paranoid aren't you?

  • @brisebastiano4974
    @brisebastiano4974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Not a teacher, don't have kids, yet I'm oddly obsessed with y'all's content😂🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @johnnag5835
      @johnnag5835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yep I'm a 12 year old child. I listen to them when I'm gaming. I dont even live near thier districts😂😂😂

    • @lhoxterlh
      @lhoxterlh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saaaaame 🤣🤣🤣

    • @isaacvasquez8268
      @isaacvasquez8268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnnag5835 ha same

    • @laceydixon8368
      @laceydixon8368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaacvasquez8268 same

    • @KamisKisses
      @KamisKisses 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same! Lol

  • @sharkyperforms247
    @sharkyperforms247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Dude hearing a teacher say “does anyone else feel like these tests are designed to trick children?” Was like 🤯🤯 because I always thought that as a kid. I’m a straight A student, I got 100s on everything, my IQ in school (IQs do change and I haven’t been tested being out of school) was 135 and state testing questions would always throw me off and make me think “this is a trick question, this has to be a trick question” it pissed me off so much like being able to see through it and know they were just trying to mess us up like tf?

    • @carebeartherese
      @carebeartherese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Dude you just described my grade school experience

    • @rachelharbour8002
      @rachelharbour8002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The bio eco is a giant reading test for science. How to I teach reading on top of science to a student that doesn’t speak English

    • @keribere244
      @keribere244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So apparently teacher pay can depend on how the students do on the test.
      So you know what? They probably make it trickier so they don’t have to pay the teachers as much. That and just to mess kids up in general.

    • @ThatOneRatNamedSavak
      @ThatOneRatNamedSavak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keribere244 I believe that as well, our teacher for english always "helps" during tests and by help I mean he literally picks a random question and tells us the right answer and why, our tests are weekly and all of the tests are 10 questions and he gives us the answers for 3 or 4 of them. Hes also the only teacher who never mentions how low the pay is, whenever asked he talks about how the pay is fairly decent and how most teachers are over dramatic about it. While our reading teacher literally told me that I shouldn't be a teacher in our state because they literally get paid less than minimum wage.

  • @jonahsmith3701
    @jonahsmith3701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    I would love to listen to an episode where you bring in P.E. , art or music teachers. I feel like they would be able to address misconceptions people have about their classes. As a current P.E. teacher I know the stereotypes P.E. teachers get all the time

    • @michaelslinger6903
      @michaelslinger6903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'd definitely like to see that. Not sure if it's a thing in the US, but add Design and Technology. I'd also be happy to make an appearance.

    • @tgrice601
      @tgrice601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn’t have not 1 bad P.E teacher we just went to the gym and sat all period so must ppl in the schools I went to always took gym every year

    • @cwahlb1
      @cwahlb1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelslinger6903 whats design and technology? are those separate classes?

    • @enyamoore7929
      @enyamoore7929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As someone studying music education, that sounds really interesting!

    • @michaelslinger6903
      @michaelslinger6903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cwahlb1 it varies. But in Australia it's a set of disciplines that involve design and making. Regularly classes are differentiated with titles like resistant materials, textiles, Systems Engineering. It's what some people refer to as STEM (although the definition of that varies widely).

  • @djanne1510
    @djanne1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I didn't attend school in the US, and listening to some of these stories is wild. The first standardized test I took in my life was my AP exams. I can't imagine taking standardized testing in elementary school

    • @crashboxsinofstars2865
      @crashboxsinofstars2865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I think the worst part 8s you do it at around the beginning+middle+end of the year for about a week straight for (mostly every school) every period except the ones that dont have testing like specials, lunch, recess and then back to work

  • @ccw2613
    @ccw2613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    As a Pre-K teacher I never brought in more than $25,000. I also bought all my teaching supplies and I had to pay all my own continuing education.

  • @carypeterson9554
    @carypeterson9554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was watching an interview of a poet whose poem was used for one of our tests in Texas. They had her answer the test questions for her poem. She got to one of them and stopped. She looked at the question and answer choices and knew what the correct answer was supposed to be, but the poet said that that wasn’t what she meant when she wrote the poem. !!! That’s one reason of many why this state testing is a joke!!

  • @starbucks_satan_mug7322
    @starbucks_satan_mug7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I did TCAPs all last week, and still have two left: science and history. The teachers have been doing fun stuff with us all day after the test for the day is over. I can’t think of ANYONE who likes state testing.

    • @jimmykimsey1189
      @jimmykimsey1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same

    • @Peachy1024
      @Peachy1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same but I still have math, science and social studies left. 3 days of ela and 2 days of makeups :)

    • @jimmykimsey1189
      @jimmykimsey1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      fell bad for all of us😢

    • @kaitlin1609
      @kaitlin1609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always made shapes with my bubbles 😂

    • @carriefox937
      @carriefox937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @annjeffery425
    @annjeffery425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Since the testing doesn't count for or against the students, they have absolutely NO incentive to try. It counts for teachers, teacher pay, school funding, etc, but the kids don't have to care.
    Also, when the teacher is watching the students test, how hard is it for kids to wait until you pass before they cheat again.
    The security levels are utterly RIDICULOUS! We can't even store the tests in a locked room if anyone (including custodians) have a key that can unlock the door. We have to confirm the individual test numbers when we pick them, have students sign them in and out, then confirm the same test numbers when we check them in again. If I bring them and no one comes in or exits the room, why do I need to be reconfirming the numbers so many times???

    • @tiffity.taffity3214
      @tiffity.taffity3214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It’s crazy because in Texas state testing, does count against the students. In high school you have to pass all of them to graduate. You have to pass the 5th & 8th grade tests to move on to the next level of schooling as well. So I think it’s different for every state

    • @annjeffery425
      @annjeffery425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tiffity.taffity3214 I agree that it definitely varies state to state. I'm in Nevada. We USED to have a mandatory proficiency test for graduation, but when too many kids couldn't pass the math test, they eliminated the requirement. (I had many students returning several times a year to try again to pass the one test that stood between them and their diploma.) They switched to the ACT, but they don't have to PASS it, they just have to TAKE it.

    • @amethystfox
      @amethystfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tiffity.taffity3214 yes, this.
      I was about to comment the same thing. I remember how the teachers would stress that we had to pass or we couldn't move onto the next grade. At least the passing score was fairly low, like 40 or something.

    • @sarahisabella7281
      @sarahisabella7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In New York it was optional in elementary and middle school. I never took one. The regents however, are not optional but they only count for NY colleges which is bullshitty to me

    • @Harudodo
      @Harudodo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tiffity.taffity3214 In Ohio, there are a handful of standardized tests you need to take (at a highschool level) and pass to graduate. But "Pass" is a bit of an odd word as it is fairly hard to fail unless you had pretty much no clue what you were doing.

  • @kinleywhatever7906
    @kinleywhatever7906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    as a kid it felt so freaking scary taking standardized testing, i was so so so scared of messing something up, def one of my first memories of having anxiety

  • @elliel4736
    @elliel4736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I took the PSAT last week, it was fine but they didn't let us read a book when we were done even though they specifically told us to bring one.

    • @2_obsessed
      @2_obsessed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We weren't even allowed to bring our book at my school, I was so annoyed! And our breaks were only two minutes, people were running to the bathrooms like crazy

    • @calebmarsland3683
      @calebmarsland3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      We took the PSAT last week They told us in an email that we would be released once our classroom was done testing and when we finished at 11:05 with nothing to do (Cause our phones where in the office and no books allowed) they told us we can’t leave till all the classes where collected and that the counselors weren’t leaving their offices till 11:45 and my class was at the end of the school so they didn’t get down there till 12:05 to release us so we had to sit there for and hour with nothing to do and thank god my teacher didn’t follow the rules and let us talk after cus that was hell🙄🤣😂

  • @Ra20233
    @Ra20233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My junior year, I had one of the "better" math teachers. He was older, was part of the regional teachers' union, etc. He showed no fear of admin. We had over thirty kids in the class, and we were all on drastically different levels. He never posted the standards. The day of state testing, he just said, "Do your best, but this state exam wasn't made for you."

    • @PlayerTenji95
      @PlayerTenji95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bless him, he sounds awesome.

  • @princetydy7756
    @princetydy7756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I didn't graduate high school, well get my diploma because I couldn't pass the Reading was Fcat when I started taking it, but then they changed it to the EOC and still never passed. Teachers taught me all they needed to, it was just me who couldn't pass the test. I got all my other graduation qualifications except passing that test. I got to walk thankfully

    • @ninimeggie4771
      @ninimeggie4771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't know where you're from but my state, Ohio, re-did graduation requirements so there are multiple paths to graduate and the EOC science and history tests are no longer required. They are an optional path towards graduation but for those who don't pass them they have other options

    • @baileighb
      @baileighb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you from FL? Those Fcats were no joke

    • @princetydy7756
      @princetydy7756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ninimeggie4771 I'm down in Florida and they are actually I think putting that into act for the upcomming school years I'm not sure cause I graduated back in 2017 so not sure if I can do anything about it now

  • @lisamendes6778
    @lisamendes6778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Where has Mr. Williams been? I love your podcast and look forward to a new episode every week. I follow all of you!

    • @KK_slider2274
      @KK_slider2274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think he was gonna start going back to school to learn about medical stuff. I hope that helps! (I have no idea if that if why tho)

    • @SteveoMcCartney
      @SteveoMcCartney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KK_slider2274 is it medical stuff? I thought he was going to school for a social work degree.

    • @KK_slider2274
      @KK_slider2274 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteveoMcCartney that's what it was I think I got him and another TH-camr mixed up sry

    • @Emily-fe6yb
      @Emily-fe6yb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “No y’all trippin” he’s doing a musical rn

  • @crystalbailey87
    @crystalbailey87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That's so funny you said to count the ceiling tiles. I volunteered for proctor and in the training he goes "no books puzzles. count the ceiling tiles. guess sq footage" And I was like have mercy on me for those 3hrs. I'm in MS.

  • @gwenmothaar383
    @gwenmothaar383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When I was I 6th grade, one of my admin thought 'Hey, we should put up a tree where the students can put up a leaf that has their name on it and if they get this score they get two If they get this score they get three, if they get this score they get one and if they get this score, they get no leaf.' And the other admin thought it was a good idea.
    So here's little 6th grade me, already hates any normal test and is worried for the state testing. I studied and thought I was doing a good job. Then here's the last question and I'm a nervous reck, very very suspenseful waiting for my test score. Then here comes the test score and I went down in my state testing. I was disappointed in myself.
    My teacher called up the students who got 3, 2, and 1 leaves up to her table and I didn't get called.
    I walked past that dumb tree everyday. And was so incredibly disappointed in myself because of admin who thought it was a good idea.
    That messed me up until 8th grade.

    • @SteveoMcCartney
      @SteveoMcCartney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We had a similar thing to this in my third grade class except it was for keeping track of how many books you finished in the semester. The kids had these large tags with their names written on them that bordered the ceiling. They were like punch cards at a cafe where you read ten books and then got to add another tag up to the wall. I always felt so bad about myself because I was such a slow reader that I didn’t fill up one card while there were kids in my class who filled up at least 3.

  • @Grape08
    @Grape08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Dear NC, trying to have a "almost teacher" and a "teacher teacher" isn't going to fix anything, maybe if NC and all the other 49 other states in the U.S respected and payed teacher what they deserve then maybe there wouldn't be such a problem

  • @rice7088
    @rice7088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My friend had to do a narrative writing for state testing about a time travelers perspective when going to some ancient city or whatever and we barely covered that 😭😭😭

    • @d.h.dd.h.d.5230
      @d.h.dd.h.d.5230 ปีที่แล้ว

      I apologize. The tests aren't created by real K-12 educators. We are told best practices encourage teaching what interests students in the 'real world' not other world.

  • @ashleighgriffin4147
    @ashleighgriffin4147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Yes, in elementary school state testing was the best. I wouldn’t even eat breakfast those days because our class moms would bring in snacks and I’d go nuts. Like the generic granola bar and then we’d get the huge Costco muffins and candy as “fuel” because breakfast is the most important meal of the day. I hated that you had to wait for a teacher to walk you to the bathroom though (mainly middle and high school) as if you were going to cheat like no bruh we’re checking social media and texting our friends what we’re going to get for lunch and how dumb the test is.

    • @pizzapartytime1826
      @pizzapartytime1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The worst part is when you had to wait for the teacher and student to come back. I just have to go pee!

    • @sweetambitions2381
      @sweetambitions2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes! State testing literally means nothing to our grades so why would we care enough to memorize everything and search up answers. 😂

    • @pizzapartytime1826
      @pizzapartytime1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sweetambitions2381 right but we did get out early so that was a bonus

    • @sweetambitions2381
      @sweetambitions2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pizzapartytime1826 Damn, we didn’t. They made us sit in class and read. Most teachers didn’t care though so we just ate and chatted.

    • @pizzapartytime1826
      @pizzapartytime1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sweetambitions2381 dang. It really depends on what state test we do some do some don’t.

  • @LifeOfCandice
    @LifeOfCandice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a guidance counselor who wanted me to go to summer school because my test scores were on the lower side despite being an honor roll student. My mom explained that I get test anxiety and this counselor looks at me and says "well don't get anxiety and we won't be in this situation." Now to be honest I am surprised my mom didn't say something but instead we sit in silence for a few seconds and then I look at my mom and I say "who knew, all I had to do was come here and now my anxiety is magically gone, I am healed." When I tell you, that guidance counselor looked at my mom and said "are you going to let your daughter speak to me like that" and my answered with "better her than me because trust me, we aren't friends right now." Needless to say, I did not go to summer school and the following year, she left me alone. It was a proud moment for my mom because for once I stood up for myself.
    I tried on the test, I truly did, I just got so overwhelmed, plus they were timed. Sadly, I wasn't on IEP so I didn't special accommodations for testing. Otherwise I may have done better in a smaller room with a longer time limit.

  • @jawnnysins8153
    @jawnnysins8153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    there was a trial test in new jersey my senior year, none of the students or teachers wanted it, and a lot of students in my high school that took it purposefully bombed the test to keep it from being permanent. it was glorious

  • @joykinser3444
    @joykinser3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That makes my heart hurt. I've been a Teacher Teacher for 15 years and I barely make $45 K. Here is an original thought, WHY NOT ASK TEACHERS WHAT TO DO ABOUT PUBLIC ED AND THE TEACHER SHORTAGE!!!

    • @d.h.dd.h.d.5230
      @d.h.dd.h.d.5230 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because ivy league republicans & democrats have been pilfering fm the edu budget since Kennedy was president, taking turns.
      In 2016, the feds cut the edu budget during a 20 yr literacy crisis but gave their ivy league pals in business $trillions in tarp tax payer money, corp welfare pay it bk if you choose no interest.
      The state Lottery we voted to reduce property taxes & fund edu isn't making it to either.
      My property taxes have cont to increase despite the lottery bringing in $40B over 20 yrs.
      Edu got $1B over 20 yrs, that's

  • @smartcam8095
    @smartcam8095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    At one of the high schools around where I live (Louisiana), they were doing state testing and a girl kept her phone during the test and they caught her checking the time on her phone and, because she ruined the “secure environment,” everyone in the room had to take the test during the summer and her family had to pay for all of the kids to take the test. It’s a big school. They were 52 other kids in the computer lab she was taking it in.

  • @thefluffymarshmallo
    @thefluffymarshmallo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A sunburn is a radiation burn from the sun. It applies to literally any person that is exposed to too much sun, regardless of skin color. 👍👍🏽👍🏿

  • @lolaloves6574
    @lolaloves6574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember for some sort of testing halfway through the year that involved sone new technology in middle school and had things we never learned our teacher had no choice but to tell us to pick B for everything so we had a chance at even finishing.

  • @luciadreaming9
    @luciadreaming9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    How do y'all all get together to film these when you live in different states? Btw I love this podcast, thank you for all the work you put into it!

    • @Kimmyfuzzygogglepage
      @Kimmyfuzzygogglepage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Take time off and or fly over for a weekend and or do it over a break and they do 2-4 podcast episodes on different subjects , they dont just do one a day

  • @blakekaveny
    @blakekaveny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A few years ago when I was a high school senior we were all taking the state test online and the testing software crashed.

  • @Ihavepinkhairrn
    @Ihavepinkhairrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The only thing that gets me through state testing is knowing I only need a 60 to past and get praise. The teachers are proud even if the difference between passing is one point.

  • @kaitlynlaineskinner
    @kaitlynlaineskinner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This reminded me of my undergrad education classes. We were talking about a new standardized state test that was released, but the standards that matched that test would not be released for a few years. This means, teachers were required to teach standards to kids that wouldn't even be on the test AND there would be questions on the tests that were over material not taught to them. I told my professor that was extremely unfair and stupid to do because it was doing a disservice to the kids and the teachers. He then informed me he was on the board that developed the test, the standards, and was in favor of the decision to release the test before the standards. 🤦🏼‍♀️ Way to go Georgia. 😂

    • @cosmicathesongstress7466
      @cosmicathesongstress7466 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, so there was a hole already, and he dug himself deeper! He does know that IF he gets all of you guys fired by doing that and causing all that confusion, that's not gonna look good for the school board which in turn will cause him to lose HIS job as well, right? Lmao

  • @jayneejarvis
    @jayneejarvis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Where's Tell?

    • @Kimmyfuzzygogglepage
      @Kimmyfuzzygogglepage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He does pre-k , so i am assuming he dosnt do state testing,

  • @MonicaRodriguez-sx9rs
    @MonicaRodriguez-sx9rs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Currently taking classes to finish my bachelors for elementary education! I love hearing Rebecca talk about NC issues, because that’s where I’m at and I’m just glad to hear the real issues and not the sugar coated ones because people want me to come work there eventually

  • @amethystfox
    @amethystfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My teachers, especially my English teacher, are always telling us how they don't like the tests either and that the questions are made to mess us up. My English teacher emphasize this the most because of the essay part and teaching us how to properly analyze the questions so they don't trip us up.

  • @debbyberry1
    @debbyberry1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was a school specialist for several years in the 90’s. Since there were no specials during testing week, I was asked to help proctor the first grade test; I was told to roam silently and be encouraging, but obviously not to help with answers. Great. That ridiculous test thought six-year-olds in the San Fernando Valley in 1994 had the word “carpenter” in their vocabulary. I was impressed that a few generated “handyman,” but “carpenter”? Did the test writers think Pa and Half-Pint lived at Ventura and Reseda?
    Now, I am a college professor. I’m glad the five-paragraph essay gives your students a good starting point, but please let them know they probably won’t use it beyond high school; one of my biggest challenges is getting kids to let go of it. They simply never put together that five paragraphs is a page and a half, two pages tops, and those aren’t often assigned in college. I honestly have had kids who turned in papers with three-page paragraphs because they could not grasp that they could and should have more than five paragraphs.

  • @ryleestevens3031
    @ryleestevens3031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I am in fourth grade and I start state testing Tuesday, and I am so nervous

    • @starbucks_satan_mug7322
      @starbucks_satan_mug7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m sure you’ll do just fine!

    • @MrsFord2009
      @MrsFord2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You'll do awesome! 🎉

    • @angel12319823
      @angel12319823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You got this!

    • @pizzapartytime1826
      @pizzapartytime1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’re fine just bring snacks because I didn’t and it was horrible….l

    • @wenniekeith888
      @wenniekeith888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's ok to be nervous, everyone is, even teachers. You do the best you can. It will all work out.

  • @zoritsanepenthe638
    @zoritsanepenthe638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Starting state testing this upcoming week….not looking forward to it. As a paraprofessional, I’ll be 1:1 with the same student I had last year, so it shouldn’t be too bad for me, but I’ll be happy when it’s done.

  • @builtontherockhomestead9390
    @builtontherockhomestead9390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I graduated high school before statewide testing became a thing. My high school though demanded all classes had to have a final exam, which was so stupid. Why do P.E. classes have to have final exams? I can understand academic classes having final exams but forcing P.E. teachers to give their students written final exams was a waste of time, yet every semester we would have them.

    • @brandyroseann
      @brandyroseann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky you. Ohio started making us take a proficiency test to graduate and luck me. My class was the ones to have to pass all four parts in 1994.

    • @builtontherockhomestead9390
      @builtontherockhomestead9390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brandyroseann I had already finished college long before then.

    • @nerdiwolverine
      @nerdiwolverine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would've been on those tests?
      "Draw a diagram of how to do a jumping jack"

  • @owenmccarthy0625
    @owenmccarthy0625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So many unpleasant memories. I hated state testing with a burning passion when I was in grade school. I would always be in tears by the time I finished, because I would just be completely drained- physically, emotionally, and mentally.

  • @CBHtheeswiftie_17
    @CBHtheeswiftie_17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in pennsylvania we have state testing, pssa’s, 3rd- 8th grade. all grades test in math and ELA. 4th and 8th are also tested in science. plus after the completion of algebra 1, biology, and 11th grade english we have to take a keystone for that class

  • @robbymero953
    @robbymero953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in 4th grade, one of my teachers went to the keys and came back with bangs. Later we found out her face got really bad sunburn and she bought clip on bangs to cover her peeling forehead. kinda iconic.

  • @oliviarburns
    @oliviarburns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love that the teachers have the same opinions on state testing.I went to public school in Mississippi from 4k to 4th grade and we took MAAP test as our state test and some of the questions made absolute no sense. And we took ELA and math test and in 3th grade I made a perfect score on both of them which I scored a 399 which is the highest u can make so the test should have been easy or not impossible and it should have made sense but it DIDNT at all on all the test. I really feel like they purposely try to trip u up like they want u to fail.

    • @cosmicathesongstress7466
      @cosmicathesongstress7466 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right! So that way they have something to get onto the teachers about!

  • @tinystrr
    @tinystrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    i’ve always hated state testing..

  • @calebmarsland3683
    @calebmarsland3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We took the PSAT last week They told us in an email that we would be released once our classroom was done testing and when we finished at 11:05 with nothing to do (Cause our phones where in the office and no books allowed) they told us we can’t leave till all the classes where collected and that the counselors weren’t leaving their offices till 11:45 and my class was at the end of the school so they didn’t get down there till 12:05 to release us so we had to sit there for and hour with nothing to do and thank god my teacher didn’t follow the rules and let us talk after cus that was hell🙄🤣😂

  • @kykutie686
    @kykutie686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a senior in 2009. We were absolutely a problematic class. As a whole. We got angry that so much time was spent on state testing and we were getting no help with our sat prep. The vast majority of our class put in no effort to the state testing because we figured it didn't matter and our sat's did for our futures. We apparently scored so low as a collective that the state sent in these government officials to investigate! But when we took our practice SAT as a collective we had almost the highest scores in the region. A couple of our favorite teachers did explain that they knew what we did. We were angry but we also didn't know we'd throw the school under investigation

  • @katieweasley3302
    @katieweasley3302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Me personally, I only hate the teachers that give preferential treatment to their students, or the ones that are just mean and bitter for no reason.

  • @deannavaccaro
    @deannavaccaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s interesting that you know so much about your state tests bc here in FL we have to sign multiple testing agreements that basically say if you look at the state or district tests in any way or if you discuss the content after with the kids, you’ll lose your license…All we know is they’re being tested on the standards with “cold reads” for ELA and there are MINIMAL practice tests/info on the state testing website to be able to prep the kids.

  • @totallycrazystudios1801
    @totallycrazystudios1801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That raffle sounds cool! The only thing I'm getting out of my testing is I can graduate next year.

  • @Delaney_Cruz
    @Delaney_Cruz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw this while studying for one of my exams. I hate exams but I still want to do good so I got to study. But also love the pod such good background noise for studying.

  • @emilymariecruz9247
    @emilymariecruz9247 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked in Student Support Services in a HS, so I didn't proctor. I heard that since changes, teachers who were proctoring couldn't use their laptops anymore, not even with headphones or to grade or do work or ANYTHING. I sat in the hallways to monitor restrooms and teachers breaks and also help with other things as needed. We felt like glorified babysitters😭

  • @marychambers5597
    @marychambers5597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My elementary school use to do a these "fun days" for the week before testing. And for half the day each day we would be outside playing carnival games and the second half focusing on reviews for the test. And it would really help me actually focus, (ADHD and dyslexic) since all my energy was out and I was relaxed

  • @angel12319823
    @angel12319823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    State testing always stressed me out. Also, I always did so poorly in math but did well in the other subjects.

  • @JoshuaWithTheBuses
    @JoshuaWithTheBuses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every year from third grade, we take the North Carolina End Of Grade (EOG) test. This year, they are on the second/third to last week of school. We do it on our computers through the North Carolina Testing System (NCTest) Program. Everyone is always so nervous.

  • @klyno22
    @klyno22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I legitimately feel bad for you guys. This is why when I know my kids have to do those State tests we always send the teachers with a little care package at the end of the week. I straight-up tell them I know it's really tough on you but it's even tougher on the staff that has to teach you trust us nobody wants to be there.

  • @rachelbutler3367
    @rachelbutler3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My state won't allow us to see the tests. We get one sample test per subject - even for two part tests - and we are required to sign a form every year saying that we won't look at the test while proctoring or discuss anything about the test afterwards. Makes it incredibly easy to prep kids for the test.....

  • @kristenyoung9172
    @kristenyoung9172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you guys!!! It has been 20+ years since I was in school, I have an AAS AND BS degree, and I would not be able to pass the state test that these kids have to take now. I do not understand why the state makes things so complicated. It’s disheartening what these kiddos and teachers go through. 😟

  • @aidenalamo6262
    @aidenalamo6262 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The state tests were always tricky because majority of the time, they were a year ahead with regards to material covered. I mean, in maths, there were equations I didn't have lessons from my maths class yet to understand how to figure them out.

  • @ccroque1
    @ccroque1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my gosh!! I absolutely find it helpful that I was taught a formula and structure for writing. I would have been so lost without it.
    A few years ago I taught it to my niece when I saw her struggling to put a paper together. I found that she was never taught that structure.

  • @AndiSchneider
    @AndiSchneider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a parent of a special needs child I honestly hate state testing! My son has autism and is mainly nonverbal, and still has to take this test. His teacher has always told me to not pay attention to the results because these tests are not catered to the way he learns and cannot accurately measure where he is. The fact is that my child is very smart, but not being able to speak limits communication and is not catered to the way he learns. It only causes him to get frustrated and he will end up just shutting up and melting down leading him to barely answer any questions. We spend our time helping him find his voice, working on his academics, and independent living skills. Nn

  • @richremaly8418
    @richremaly8418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While my daughter was helping outside with our church she didn't want sunscreen. She had a top on with a y strap back. Of course she got sunburned. She had the mark it seemed like forever. I always teased her asking her why (Y) you know better about being in the sun than anyone even her elders.

  • @emmym.1524
    @emmym.1524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely hate the idea of test scores directly affecting teachers salaries! I went to a school where they had high test scores and half the time they weren’t actually teaching information . They were teaching how to take the test properly!

  • @embro2.0
    @embro2.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you soooo much for teaching your kids a formula for writing an essay!! I did not learn this until my 10th grade HISTORY teacher taught us this. Why not my English teachers?! It helped me on every single essay from that point forward.

  • @destinygonka6985
    @destinygonka6985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So excited the new episode is out ! 😊 I hated state testing back in school, I never wanted to go because we just sat for 8 hours in complete silence and I was board. No fun

  • @MayaMuffin
    @MayaMuffin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We had to do MAP testing and NDSA (North Dakota State Assessment)
    Apparently I wasn't supposed to finish my math MAP test in the first class period but I didn't know what to do when I did finish on the first day. Like, am I just supposed to sit there if I know the right answer so quickly? Also that science NDSA test i swear to God. Hated it. With a burning passion

  • @KakuroKing3407
    @KakuroKing3407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember being so BORED with CT Mastery Test bc they would give almost the exact same test every time. Like the same format from K-8

  • @meganormaybenot
    @meganormaybenot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was and still am a gifted student. Straight As, assignments were easy, tripped up a few times here and there. I hated state testing because of the time limit (not really limit just minimum) . I remember a test with the time limit of 1 hour (really 70 minutes because I usually get on pretty early) that I finished in 35 minutes. The teacher's excuse was that she could do it in one hour. Like how am I expected to complete the test if questions are things like "what material reflects white light the most". Worst part was we didnt get anything special after testing.

  • @desteni1992
    @desteni1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this podcast channel after seeing you guys on tiktok. Been catching up on all the episodes for the past couple days and am so sad to now see that Tell isnt on this podcast anymore. I love prek - k grades and have considered going back to school to be a teacher and loved his stories and perspective of the littlest ones. Also LOVE the 3 of you also, just will miss Tell for sure, hopefully you guys are all still friends.

  • @LuminBusts
    @LuminBusts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    State testing is to measure how much student have learned. I feel like as long as you get all your quality points then testing doesn’t matter because if you get A’s both quarters and get an F on the exam you’ll still pass 😂

  • @a.m6141
    @a.m6141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your podcast. I’m not a teacher but my mother has been a teacher for almost 30 years and I feel like I have a strange connection to teachers for that reason. I find your podcast extremely interesting.

  • @stxrrbee833
    @stxrrbee833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had to write a essay on how Dandelions regrow like how am I suppose to write 5 Paragraph essay on that like the passage had one paragraph that talked about that like what

  • @TheKellijuana
    @TheKellijuana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to count the ceiling tiles when I was a kid in class - I could never keep my line straight enough to keep track and finish counting :/ and no the rooms weren't that big lol I just probably have ADHD

  • @alexgelan7542
    @alexgelan7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So all of y’all teach at different states? How do y’all make this work?

  • @Dannyiiiii
    @Dannyiiiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They pay more for the prizes than they do the teachers. In middle school two kids won iPads through a raffle

  • @mmmmsashimi
    @mmmmsashimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG!! Not a teacher. But once upon a time when you had take tests on the scantron sheets (bubble sheets). We were completing our grade 12 history final, there was a kid that didn't open the test book and answered C for all the questions....the whole test was true/false.

  • @brittaniwardle129
    @brittaniwardle129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a para at an elementary school. We always have to have to people while doing the ISAT test.

  • @sethsmith2508
    @sethsmith2508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where’s tell?

  • @rachelharbour8002
    @rachelharbour8002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is what FL does. I went from highly effective to effective because of the testing being tied to my rating and pay

  • @LilyKsCreations
    @LilyKsCreations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The donut stress thing got me bc I had this one English teacher who had donut stuff ALL over her classroom it was so fun

  • @Mark_317
    @Mark_317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Rhode Island, over the winter I was shovelling snow and got a sunburn.

  • @Alexp36500
    @Alexp36500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was younger I just blistered myself all the time. Then I was about 18 and 3rd degree blistered the 💩 out of my back/shoulders/arms and i told myself I will never ever ever do this again. It was the most awful 3 weeks of my life. So now I wear a wetsuit anytime I go to a body of water lol.

  • @CyleeBrown
    @CyleeBrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos! I wanted to comment on the sunburn thing, I am such a stickler about everyone wearing sunscreen due to my step mom from age 8-16 and my best friend passing away because of skin cancer at age 27. I always hear the excuses “I just have to burn once and then I tan” or like you said, “black people don’t get sunburns” even I used to not worry about it so much because “I’m Mexican I don’t burn”. After seeing the effects of the sun first hand I always am the person nagging people about sunscreen and having it on me almost always and combating the excuses with facts (in a kind way that will be easily digestible to that individual). The skin is the largest organ and we don’t learn that enough! Sure some people are more susceptible to harm from the sun but it truly can happen to anyone. We only get one body! ♥️
    Sorry for the long personal post lol I love watching you guys, listening to your perspectives and laughing at your personalities and dynamic bouncing off eachother ♥️ truly examples of the type of people who should be teaching

  • @CuddleCloud172
    @CuddleCloud172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can everyone please PRAY for Mrs. Woolley, also my mom is a teacher and I had to go to school the same time that she did. I am NOT a expert on the pains of being s teacher. but I know the pains if getting up at 5 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING IN 1-5TH GRADE!

  • @hannah6687
    @hannah6687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the more episodes of this i watch, the more grateful i am to work at a montessori school

  • @havocwifey1961
    @havocwifey1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where I went to school we had to take 5 different exams and if u don’t pass those by your senior year YOU WILL NOT be aloud to graduate. Me and my hubby both have learning issues and we legit came very close to dropping out and just getting a GED.

  • @alysonavery7955
    @alysonavery7955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a state testing story >:)
    .
    When I was a freshman, we were doing the state testing at the end of the year. Now due to me having autism with adhd tendencies, whenever I take a test I have my noise cancelling headphones, and a fidget toy (I use a little handkerchief with different fabrics to play with) So I take these idems out and put them on the desk and then the lady running the test walks by and tells me to put them away, so I pick up the handkerchief and she says "headset too" I just thought to myself "they're noise cancelling."
    .
    This situation left me in tears and when I told my mom after school, she was not happy. She was ready to go all mama bear on this lady.
    .
    BTW, before anyone asks, I don't have a 504 or an IEP, but whenever I have these idems in class, the teachers don't mind because I'm not distracting anyone, and they usually know what I've got going on.

  • @bamer6000
    @bamer6000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Christmas Trees are part of why it's important to make sure your students like you. I remember when I learned that teachers got bonuses if we did well on our exams, so I Christmas Tree'd my Chinese teacher's final because I didn't like her.

  • @zoepapas4158
    @zoepapas4158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a student who just graduated high school and has taken the SAT, multiple AP exam, SBAC, and a whole lot more, I can say with certainty that all of my high school teachers preparing us for the exam would tell us “they are trying to trick you. I’m gonna try to teach you how to not fall for the tricks to the best of my ability.” So not only did my teachers have to teach the actual content, but they had to take time to teach what NOT to do and how to pass a rigged test. So yes, all state tests and standardized testing is made to trick students, and every teacher I’ve met hates giving them.

  • @thevelafamilyjourney691
    @thevelafamilyjourney691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mother in law is a teacher in North Carolina!
    What a small world ❤️

  • @vixxy7856
    @vixxy7856 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Last year I had a passage for the English state test that had us write in the perspective of a cat

  • @comet_0209
    @comet_0209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my school if a single phone goes off the entire set of test is invalidated if a noise is made the whole room of kids fail the test.

  • @teddy4212
    @teddy4212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I start my state testing this week (ILEARN), and I have never token a state test for science.

  • @IraqVet0608
    @IraqVet0608 ปีที่แล้ว

    While deployed in Egypt, I got to pick on one of my darker skinned battle buddies because he always picked on my pastiness (nearly translucent, redhead). He got burned a couple mo into the deployment, didn’t even know he COULD burn. Cover up people, use sunscreen, skin cancer kills.

  • @katieab403
    @katieab403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in TN & I graduated HS in 2018. Through most of the time I was in school we had the "TCAP." When I was in 5th grade, we had a teacher who called it the "TCRAP," which was like a swear word to us 10 yr olds, so it was just word that summed up everyone's feelings about state testing & made it a bit bearable.
    Then when I was in HS they decided to change how they did the state testing, especially math, and I was in an accelerated math class so sophomore yr was the Algebra II test. First, we tried to take it on computers & everyone across the state was to start this test at the same time. It blew up in everyone's faces, like I don't think any district was able to take it. So the next week they sent out the pen & paper test. I was legit in a class with ppl who are now starting careers as or studying to be doctors, physicists, nurses, teachers, scientists. I kid you not when I say we started & opened the test, we all looked at each other, closed it, and shared a small panicked laughter before we actually started.

  • @richkarter1916
    @richkarter1916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would like to point out the method in english of introduction, body, conclusion actually made me a better creative writer today, like i actually have the confidence in my own writing now to write the whole story when i wrote longer ones

  • @briannalarmore4759
    @briannalarmore4759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am at a highschool. We have been allowed only 1 proctor in past years. But this year, we have to have 2. The SPED room has two have 2, the English room 2, and my math room 2. All so we can test the students and give them the time required which is 1.5 class periods. We only have 2 assistants in the school. So now we are begging teachers to give up their preps. Which, with only 20 adults on staff from principal to janitor, is really hard. Who is supposed to watch the students that aren't testing? The overworked librarian?

  • @craigrobinson5808
    @craigrobinson5808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the AP English Language test, there is a final writing prompt that is considered an “Open prompt” where they give you a large list of texts that you should have read at some point, whether in that class or a previous English class, and you have to recall that text or another text not on the list to answer the prompt and the year I took the test the prompt was so outlandish with the texts provided and so it became this question in my head of how do you gage what the garrets of the test are looking for. I wasn’t trying to write publishable literature I was trying to write something that checked all the boxes to get a good grade and it was so so hard. As a future English teacher (I am in the English Teaching program at Indiana State) it terrifies me to think how can I prepare kids for something like that on a test and then expect my teaching to also be judged on it?

  • @AV-rc5gi
    @AV-rc5gi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In FL we do FSA for reading and math and EOC for algebra I and Geometry.
    But since I am in the Cambridge program (from the UK), we do the FSA and do the cambridge tests. It was all written I did 6 of those on 4 days

  • @tadasuko8935
    @tadasuko8935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shout out to State Tests in Georgia. Where there were so many errors that the curve ended up being 30% one year so you could pass with a 40

  • @GymbalLock
    @GymbalLock ปีที่แล้ว

    16:15 that's about double what an Arizona teacher makes. We already get paid based on state testing score.

  • @heatherduke5410
    @heatherduke5410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had no clue that my teachers weren't really allowed to do anything while we did state testing. I'm out of school now, but I remember the only thing I enjoyed about the state testing was the snacks we got.

    • @randomliciousable
      @randomliciousable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't allowed to snack only allowed a water bottle that they checked for writing and pens/pencils.

    • @heatherduke5410
      @heatherduke5410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomliciousable See, that's interesting. The snacks were ones the school provided. They were things like white cheddar popcorn, juice, chips, things like that.

  • @tillman_time
    @tillman_time 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my 6th grade year my math teacher convinced most of the parents to opt out all of us kids. only 10 kids took the test that year

  • @Stella2cool4u
    @Stella2cool4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A few days ago in our math SOL they said they were gonna give us a formula sheet
    The teachers in charge of the testing location i was in forgot to hand them out and like everyone got something close to the minimum passing grade