To the question ''Do you think it's worse on the left or on the right?'' I think it's actually a great question if taken to mean ''Do you think there's more of it on the left or on the right?'' Not ''which strand of it might be worse''. In that sense, I find it peculiar that in the U.S. there seems to be much more of it on the democratic left than on the authoritarian right.
@@Daniebraids Yes, I have. I guess you're right, there are some terrible examples on that side too. But in general terms, for example, CNN (which is left) leans more into pro-gaza than Fox News (which is right) that maintains a staunchly pro-Israel & Jew-sympathetic stance, at least as far as I know.
She has been a tool of antisemites for some time. Maybe always. I have no interest in her "academic" production and have no idea what she is babbling about. Her public persona and the familiarity with the abuse of this horror in American academia make me highly skeptical. And yes, true historians have sensitivity to charlatanry, sloganeering, demagoguery, etc. In other words, a true historian doesn't march and chant "Angel, Saint, Messiah, God" referring to an obvious charlatan.
When Lipstadt talks about being ok to criticise Israeli policies notice that she was very careful not to use the REAL term: ZIONISM . Anti Israel is the exact same thing as anti zionism. WAKE UP!
This is so enlightening; the description of process and denial of HATE. Antisemitism, Racism, Sexism flows when we aid and abet the rhetoric. Thank you Prof Deborah Lipstadt.
Well, she is Obama/Biden/Hamas ambassador. I know something about being an academic and about the difference between being an academic and being a prostitu^e.
Well, did she say that promotion of antisemitic politicians, who are bent on the destruction of Israel to the center of power, financing them and serving them in official capacity is ... antisemitism? Did she apologize for her role in October 7th horror?
Well, I would like to reply but nothing printable comes to mind. I happen to be allergic to idiocy, illiteracy and hugging (the monsters) posturing. dr anna
Deborah Lipstadt is such a disgrace! In September 2024 she was asked at the Israeli-American Council annual summit in Washington, D.C., to respond to global perceptions that Israel is weak after Hamas carried out its terrorist attacks in southern Israel on Oct. 7. “Do you want a beeper?” Lipstadt asked, drawing applause from the audience. (Footage of the exchange, and critical response to it, has drawn hundreds of thousands of views on social media.). She celebrated Israel’s recent state terrorism in Lebanon that left a number of civilians, including children, dead or injured. Her callous remarks are not only disgusting but also dangerous. At a time when the US government claims it is working to de-escalate tensions between Israel and Lebanon, her flippant celebration of state-sponsored terrorism undermines diplomatic efforts to prevent a broader war in the region. Joking about the loss of innocent lives, especially children, is a disgrace and should have no place in U.S. foreign-policy discussions. It sends a message to the world that the U.S. government condones or even celebrates the slaughter of Arab and Muslim civilians. This is not just immoral; it’s irresponsible.
At minute 37:00. Agree on believing the women in rapes. The problem is which woman saw the rapes or was raped. If you can't name the witness, then how to say believe the woman.
Multiple witnesses have come forward, if American press does not report this is most dismaying. There are videos of women's body who were clearly r*ped, shot is the g*nit*ls etc. Thera are witnesses from 7 different locations of r*p*s and gang r&pes. 2 of the terrorists caught, a father and son admitted to r&ping women together. There are multiple descriptions by doctors who handled the bodies Amit Sosna who was one of the women kidnapped by Hamas and released in the first deal came forward and said she was r&ped while being held hostage. All the information is out there...
There were no rapes on October 7 and no beheaded babies. That Israeli lie has long been debunked and remains debunked and always will be debunked. The slave revolt of October 7 marks the beginning of the end game for Israel, a dead man walking.
@americase7en in the 1920s zionism was a minority view of European Jews and non-existent in non-european Jews. In the 1920s, Zionism was a divisive issue among Ashkenazi Jews. While many Ashkenazi Jews supported Zionism, especially after World War I and the Balfour Declaration of 1917, there were significant differences in opinion. 1. Supporters of Zionism: Many Ashkenazi Jews in Europe, particularly secular Jews, intellectuals, and those associated with socialist movements, saw Zionism as a solution to rising anti-Semitism and the challenges of Jewish assimilation in Europe. They supported the idea of establishing a Jewish homeland in Palestine, viewing it as a path toward Jewish self-determination. 2. Opposition to Zionism: On the other hand, many Orthodox Jews, particularly ultra-Orthodox groups, rejected Zionism. They believed that the establishment of a Jewish state should not occur until the arrival of the Messiah. In addition, some secular Jews, particularly those assimilated in Western Europe and the United States, felt that Zionism could undermine their efforts to integrate into broader society. 3. Religious vs. Secular Divide: The secular, socialist variant of Zionism, espoused by figures like David Ben-Gurion and Chaim Weizmann, had more appeal to Ashkenazi Jews in Eastern Europe, where persecution was more severe. Meanwhile, many Western Ashkenazi Jews, particularly in Germany, France, and the U.S., were more hesitant or indifferent to Zionism, prioritizing civic equality in their countries of residence. By the 1920s, Zionism had become an influential movement, but it was not universally accepted within the Ashkenazi Jewish community. The response to Zionism varied depending on religious, ideological, and geographic factors.
Deborah. What's your take on the Gaza genocide and the book of joshua a popular book in israeli schools. One of the most notable verses is in Joshua 6:21 (ESV): > "Then they devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword."
The book of joshua is an excellent book. Not for the reasons you would think. Forgetting the conquest, it is a book that addresses morals and interpretations as well as relations with other peoples. It is also a book about making peace with others through negotiation. The battle of jericho actually has strong moral messages towards treating others in a humane and respectful manner within it. I was shocked how amazing it is as a text when i recently read it. Sadly, people don't read the actual text. It is rich for debate.
@robertcarter8868 The Book of Joshua is primarily focused on the Israelites' conquest of Canaan, with its themes often revolving around war, divine commands to take the land, and the establishment of Israel in the Promised Land. The text does not have a significant emphasis on peace in the way that later biblical prophets, such as Isaiah, speak of peace and justice. However, there are moments in the Book of Joshua where peace is mentioned or implied in certain contexts, though they are not the central focus of the narrative: 1. Peace Treaties: One notable example is the Gibeonites, who deceived the Israelites into making a peace treaty with them (Joshua 9). While the treaty is made under false pretenses, it is still an example of a moment where a peaceful resolution is sought instead of war. Joshua honors the treaty despite the deception, showing that agreements of peace could be upheld, even under difficult circumstances. 2. Rest after Conquest: At the end of the book, once the Israelites have taken much of the land of Canaan, it is said that the land had rest from war (Joshua 11:23). This rest can be seen as a kind of peace, although it follows the violent conquests that preceded it. 3. Encouragement of Obedience and Harmony: Joshua repeatedly urges the people to follow the Law of Moses, which includes commands for justice, mercy, and community well-being. While this is not a direct message of peace, the idea of living according to God's laws is intended to lead to harmony within the Israelite community. In contrast to these few moments, much of the book focuses on military campaigns and God's commands to destroy or displace the Canaanite inhabitants, which makes the book a challenging one for deriving traditional messages of peace. Later biblical texts and rabbinic interpretations often engage with the themes of Joshua to explore deeper ethical questions about war, peace, and justice.
@@everythingandmore5537You have been told - read the book. Not just read - study it. Using brainwashed on multiculturalism and political correctness ChatGPT without applying your brain does not take you any closer to the truth and only reveals your intention to appear intellectual.
Lipstadt is saying that antisemitism, or more accurately, anti Jew is anti zionism. She claims "ask them" and says they are saying it's the same thing. Lipstadt is wrong! The 8 billion sapiens are anti zionist NOT anti Jew!
These two have failed. There is more open antisemitism in the us than ever. Ms. Lipstadt is a huge disappointment. Where has she been? So much has happened in los angeles? Where has she been? Did she tour ucla? Harvard? Columbia? Doug's daughter is arguably pro hamas and raising funds for gaza. Please, wake up from you slumber.
When are we going to insist that jewish students need to be able to go to class and not be prevented by other students from attending class. Why not call the national guard to escort them to class just like they did for ruby bridges in the 50s.
Yes, when are we going to send in the National Guard to protect and shelter Jewish students from the terrible outbreak of democracy and free speech on campus and the hateful and outrageous exposure of them to ideas different from those taught them by their elders.
If a Jewish student was not allowed to attend class, he should report it to the campus police. The culprit is easily identified from CCTV. So far, no complaints had been lodged. So it's not an issue
I find ms. Lipstadt as a failure in this chapter of her life. The first thing out of her mouth should have been, we have a big problem and i have done the following in my office...
@@robertcarter8868 lipstadt is a secular jew and is sick of the far right Israeli government. She believes anti-semitism is created by the present Israeli government.
If Lipstadt enjoys reading history, then she should read Ilan Pappe's books, especially Ilan Pappe's latest book, "Lobbying For Zionism On Both Sides Of The Atlantic", and learn more about the objective truth of zionism.
@@NorseMythology-c3z I've seen the videos. Israeli settlers are lining up to get their share. I know one thing for sure. The port and the beachfront won't be going back to the Gazans.
Gaza is being auctioned off at Synagogues in canada and America.. and it's jew only.. so americans pay for the war.. and die in the war.. but barred from buying property after their sacrifice
Lets say that's true and one Jewish family was entirely to blame for that. Are all Jews responsible? If the lab origin theory of Covid is true (and it probably is) are all Chinese people responsible? Are you?
OMG - talk about rabbit hole Here stupid me somehow thought sassoon was a french name, due to the hair stylist- salon owner who was actually from England. Its actually a very Indian / Iranian ./ Middle eastern name when you think about it. Supposedly everyone with that last name is somehow related.
Lol anti-Zionism is not antisemitism and continuing to insist that criticizing or condemning or opposing genocide and war crimes is antisemitic, you're saying those things are intrinsic to being Jewish.
Nice try, but you're managed to twist reality into a pretzel in an effort to turn public sentiment against Israel & the Jews at-large. So according to you, what is the solution to Zionism?
It's your selective condemnation, and lack of research, that makes you prejudiced. Mostly people who think like you don't actually have any valid condemnation to offer, just regurgitating accusations of Israelis being like Nazis. That's prejudice, not intellectual critique.
@@dustin9132 yeah ..I don’t want the state of Armenia to exist but ohhh no it has nothing to do with bring anti Armenian. 😁 Gosh you Zionophobes are stupid
If you consider anti-Zionism as antisemitism, then you are encouraging people to look at the acts committed by Israel to be the result of Jewish values. Think about that.
After careful thought, I've come to consider that you are encouraging people to hate Israel & the Jews. Thus, by extension, also liberal democratic values.
Zionism is the belief that Jews should have the right to self determination if you are anti Zionist you are antisemitic. Every group deserves the right to self determination
@@Daniebraids A people has a right to national self-determination, but not if it comes at the expense of the same right possessed by others. You can critique an ideology if it depends on denying to others the very humanity and dignity that it demands for itself. That has nothing to do with antisemitism. It is applying a basic moral principle of consistency and reciprocity. As you yourself say, "Every group deserves the right."
@@John-c3u9o Zionism is not predicated on denying anyone else rights, the only reason Palestinians don't have rights is because they don't want to live in peace next to a Jewish state, they want the destruction of Israel more than they want their own state. If they wanted their own state they could have had it long ago, Israel is only taking measures to prevent the massacre of their population by people who have a jihadists ideology and who goal is an Islamic caliphate and the idea of Israel having any sovereign state in that area is an afront to their religious ideology. Do you think Israel should commit suicide because the Arabs hate them and won't be satisfied until they are subjugated?
She’s so stereotypical it hurts. She’s a terrible ambassador for our people
If its myth and not theory. Explain how ari Emmanuel was able to shut down and bankrupt kanye west?
To the question ''Do you think it's worse on the left or on the right?'' I think it's actually a great question if taken to mean ''Do you think there's more of it on the left or on the right?'' Not ''which strand of it might be worse''. In that sense, I find it peculiar that in the U.S. there seems to be much more of it on the democratic left than on the authoritarian right.
Both are getting bad
@@Daniebraids Yes, but it seems to be mainly a 'left-wing' sentiment.
@@rigelb9025 have you seen the likes of Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens
@@Daniebraids Yes, I have. I guess you're right, there are some terrible examples on that side too. But in general terms, for example, CNN (which is left) leans more into pro-gaza than Fox News (which is right) that maintains a staunchly pro-Israel & Jew-sympathetic stance, at least as far as I know.
@@rigelb9025 yes you are right at least the right wing administration won't turn on Israel the was the dems will
I can't find any indication that there is any anti-German hate council or ambassador. What does that mean?
She is disgusting, disturbing, and disgraceful.
Do you support Kamala ? If you do how can we take you seriously 😢
Who do you support?
Tonald J. Drump: "there are very fine people on both sides" about Charlottesville, VA. One of the sides were Neo-Nazis!
She has been a tool of antisemites for some time. Maybe always. I have no interest in her "academic" production and have no idea what she is babbling about. Her public persona and the familiarity with the abuse of this horror in American academia make me highly skeptical.
And yes, true historians have sensitivity to charlatanry, sloganeering, demagoguery, etc. In other words, a true historian doesn't march and chant "Angel, Saint, Messiah, God" referring to an obvious charlatan.
We can't.
My comments are removed. Antisemitism is one of the areas of expertise and I am not a prostitu^e, so it isn't surprising.
dr anna
When Lipstadt talks about being ok to criticise Israeli policies notice that she was very careful not to use the REAL term: ZIONISM . Anti Israel is the exact same thing as anti zionism. WAKE UP!
From the thumbnail thought it was Ed Sheeran.
From the thumbnail I thought it was Michael Rappaport. 🤮
That's not very progressive of you.
This is so enlightening; the description of process and denial of HATE. Antisemitism, Racism, Sexism flows when we aid and abet the rhetoric. Thank you Prof Deborah Lipstadt.
Well, she is Obama/Biden/Hamas ambassador. I know something about being an academic and about the difference between being an academic and being a prostitu^e.
Well, did she say that promotion of antisemitic politicians, who are bent on the destruction of Israel to the center of power, financing them and serving them in official capacity is ... antisemitism?
Did she apologize for her role in October 7th horror?
Well, I would like to reply but nothing printable comes to mind. I happen to be allergic to idiocy, illiteracy and hugging (the monsters) posturing.
dr anna
Deborah Lipstadt is such a disgrace! In September 2024 she was asked at the Israeli-American Council annual summit in Washington, D.C., to respond to global perceptions that Israel is weak after Hamas carried out its terrorist attacks in southern Israel on Oct. 7.
“Do you want a beeper?” Lipstadt asked, drawing applause from the audience. (Footage of the exchange, and critical response to it, has drawn hundreds of thousands of views on social media.). She celebrated Israel’s recent state terrorism in Lebanon that left a number of civilians, including children, dead or injured. Her callous remarks are not only disgusting but also dangerous. At a time when the US government claims it is working to de-escalate tensions between Israel and Lebanon, her flippant celebration of state-sponsored terrorism undermines diplomatic efforts to prevent a broader war in the region. Joking about the loss of innocent lives, especially children, is a disgrace and should have no place in U.S. foreign-policy discussions. It sends a message to the world that the U.S. government condones or even celebrates the slaughter of Arab and Muslim civilians. This is not just immoral; it’s irresponsible.
At minute 37:00. Agree on believing the women in rapes. The problem is which woman saw the rapes or was raped. If you can't name the witness, then how to say believe the woman.
Multiple witnesses have come forward, if American press does not report this is most dismaying. There are videos of women's body who were clearly r*ped, shot is the g*nit*ls etc. Thera are witnesses from 7 different locations of r*p*s and gang r&pes. 2 of the terrorists caught, a father and son admitted to r&ping women together. There are multiple descriptions by doctors who handled the bodies Amit Sosna who was one of the women kidnapped by Hamas and released in the first deal came forward and said she was r&ped while being held hostage. All the information is out there...
There were no rapes on October 7 and no beheaded babies. That Israeli lie has long been debunked and remains debunked and always will be debunked. The slave revolt of October 7 marks the beginning of the end game for Israel, a dead man walking.
interesting. thank you
This looks like another propaganda channel...😢
Don’t go near the 92Y pool, it’s a cesspool
Correct.
Anti Zionism is Anti Semitism just spelled differently. You "As a Jews" for Palestine (for the prog points) are drek.
true
Hahahahhahahahaha
Deborah said that in the 1930s, anti-zionism was not considered as anti-semitism. However, now, in the 2020s, it's not the same. How?
@@everythingandmore5537 hahahhahahaha do you read books? Even from Jewish people. Do you? Or only fairytales?
@americase7en in the 1920s zionism was a minority view of European Jews and non-existent in non-european Jews.
In the 1920s, Zionism was a divisive issue among Ashkenazi Jews. While many Ashkenazi Jews supported Zionism, especially after World War I and the Balfour Declaration of 1917, there were significant differences in opinion.
1. Supporters of Zionism: Many Ashkenazi Jews in Europe, particularly secular Jews, intellectuals, and those associated with socialist movements, saw Zionism as a solution to rising anti-Semitism and the challenges of Jewish assimilation in Europe. They supported the idea of establishing a Jewish homeland in Palestine, viewing it as a path toward Jewish self-determination.
2. Opposition to Zionism: On the other hand, many Orthodox Jews, particularly ultra-Orthodox groups, rejected Zionism. They believed that the establishment of a Jewish state should not occur until the arrival of the Messiah. In addition, some secular Jews, particularly those assimilated in Western Europe and the United States, felt that Zionism could undermine their efforts to integrate into broader society.
3. Religious vs. Secular Divide: The secular, socialist variant of Zionism, espoused by figures like David Ben-Gurion and Chaim Weizmann, had more appeal to Ashkenazi Jews in Eastern Europe, where persecution was more severe. Meanwhile, many Western Ashkenazi Jews, particularly in Germany, France, and the U.S., were more hesitant or indifferent to Zionism, prioritizing civic equality in their countries of residence.
By the 1920s, Zionism had become an influential movement, but it was not universally accepted within the Ashkenazi Jewish community. The response to Zionism varied depending on religious, ideological, and geographic factors.
40:13 it hardly works in Belgium. brilliant. I cant disagree more but I laughed.
Happy October 7 and many happy returns of the day.
What nonsense ....stop colonizing.
Deborah. What's your take on the Gaza genocide and the book of joshua a popular book in israeli schools.
One of the most notable verses is in Joshua 6:21 (ESV):
> "Then they devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword."
The book of joshua is an excellent book. Not for the reasons you would think. Forgetting the conquest, it is a book that addresses morals and interpretations as well as relations with other peoples. It is also a book about making peace with others through negotiation. The battle of jericho actually has strong moral messages towards treating others in a humane and respectful manner within it. I was shocked how amazing it is as a text when i recently read it. Sadly, people don't read the actual text. It is rich for debate.
@robertcarter8868 The Book of Joshua is primarily focused on the Israelites' conquest of Canaan, with its themes often revolving around war, divine commands to take the land, and the establishment of Israel in the Promised Land. The text does not have a significant emphasis on peace in the way that later biblical prophets, such as Isaiah, speak of peace and justice.
However, there are moments in the Book of Joshua where peace is mentioned or implied in certain contexts, though they are not the central focus of the narrative:
1. Peace Treaties: One notable example is the Gibeonites, who deceived the Israelites into making a peace treaty with them (Joshua 9). While the treaty is made under false pretenses, it is still an example of a moment where a peaceful resolution is sought instead of war. Joshua honors the treaty despite the deception, showing that agreements of peace could be upheld, even under difficult circumstances.
2. Rest after Conquest: At the end of the book, once the Israelites have taken much of the land of Canaan, it is said that the land had rest from war (Joshua 11:23). This rest can be seen as a kind of peace, although it follows the violent conquests that preceded it.
3. Encouragement of Obedience and Harmony: Joshua repeatedly urges the people to follow the Law of Moses, which includes commands for justice, mercy, and community well-being. While this is not a direct message of peace, the idea of living according to God's laws is intended to lead to harmony within the Israelite community.
In contrast to these few moments, much of the book focuses on military campaigns and God's commands to destroy or displace the Canaanite inhabitants, which makes the book a challenging one for deriving traditional messages of peace. Later biblical texts and rabbinic interpretations often engage with the themes of Joshua to explore deeper ethical questions about war, peace, and justice.
@@everythingandmore5537You have been told - read the book. Not just read - study it. Using brainwashed on multiculturalism and political correctness ChatGPT without applying your brain does not take you any closer to the truth and only reveals your intention to appear intellectual.
Hi Hamas
@@anna-tn8mg It seems everything is Hamas. Are the Democrats Hmas?
Lipstadt is saying that antisemitism, or more accurately, anti Jew is anti zionism. She claims "ask them" and says they are saying it's the same thing. Lipstadt is wrong! The 8 billion sapiens are anti zionist NOT anti Jew!
So grateful to president Biden for creating her office. And to Second Gentleman Douglas Emhoff for working with her on this. 🙏🏼💚
Democrat fight against antisemitism is an oxymoron. They will never achieve anything because they are the root cause of jew hate
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These two have failed. There is more open antisemitism in the us than ever. Ms. Lipstadt is a huge disappointment. Where has she been? So much has happened in los angeles? Where has she been? Did she tour ucla? Harvard? Columbia? Doug's daughter is arguably pro hamas and raising funds for gaza. Please, wake up from you slumber.
@@NorseMythology-c3z Norse Mythology and 92th Street like this comment. This says everything about it quality.
Right, the government is paying special attention to one thing: AIPAC. Give me a break.
When are we going to insist that jewish students need to be able to go to class and not be prevented by other students from attending class. Why not call the national guard to escort them to class just like they did for ruby bridges in the 50s.
Yes, when are we going to send in the National Guard to protect and shelter Jewish students from the terrible outbreak of democracy and free speech on campus and the hateful and outrageous exposure of them to ideas different from those taught them by their elders.
thats a bit extreme. but point taken
If a Jewish student was not allowed to attend class, he should report it to the campus police. The culprit is easily identified from CCTV. So far, no complaints had been lodged. So it's not an issue
I find ms. Lipstadt as a failure in this chapter of her life. The first thing out of her mouth should have been, we have a big problem and i have done the following in my office...
@@robertcarter8868 lipstadt is a secular jew and is sick of the far right Israeli government. She believes anti-semitism is created by the present Israeli government.
A vote for Jill Stein is a vote against genocide. Vote for Jill Stein.
The Biden administration has been saying BUT all the way to Michigan and Minnesota. .
Hhhhhh why this two state only man 😂😂😂
If Lipstadt enjoys reading history, then she should read Ilan Pappe's books, especially Ilan Pappe's latest book, "Lobbying For Zionism On Both Sides Of The Atlantic", and learn more about the objective truth of zionism.
Who gets Gaza after the war?
Rumblings that the UAE will participate and Israel will monitor the educational curriculum as far as de-radilcalization is concerned.
@@thevillageyid BS. We all know who's getting the land.
WOW!!!! You have a crystal ball into the future! Please let us all know the exact price of oil on November 5th? Oops.... your crystal ball just broke!
@@NorseMythology-c3z I've seen the videos. Israeli settlers are lining up to get their share. I know one thing for sure. The port and the beachfront won't be going back to the Gazans.
Gaza is being auctioned off at Synagogues in canada and America.. and it's jew only.. so americans pay for the war.. and die in the war.. but barred from buying property after their sacrifice
the Chinese people know who was responsible for the Opium wars. They know the Sassoon family who ran the opium business.
Lets say that's true and one Jewish family was entirely to blame for that. Are all Jews responsible? If the lab origin theory of Covid is true (and it probably is) are all Chinese people responsible? Are you?
OMG - talk about rabbit hole
Here stupid me somehow thought sassoon was a french name, due to the hair stylist- salon owner who was actually from England. Its actually a very Indian / Iranian ./ Middle eastern name when you think about it. Supposedly everyone with that last name is somehow related.
Lol anti-Zionism is not antisemitism and continuing to insist that criticizing or condemning or opposing genocide and war crimes is antisemitic, you're saying those things are intrinsic to being Jewish.
Lol yourself in front of a mirror. if a reflection appears at all, know it's a disgusting bigot.
Nice try, but you're managed to twist reality into a pretzel in an effort to turn public sentiment against Israel & the Jews at-large. So according to you, what is the solution to Zionism?
It's your selective condemnation, and lack of research, that makes you prejudiced. Mostly people who think like you don't actually have any valid condemnation to offer, just regurgitating accusations of Israelis being like Nazis. That's prejudice, not intellectual critique.
That's exactly what it is why is it only Jews don't have the right to self determination?
@@dustin9132 yeah ..I don’t want the state of Armenia to exist but ohhh no it has nothing to do with bring anti Armenian. 😁
Gosh you Zionophobes are stupid
If you consider anti-Zionism as antisemitism, then you are encouraging people to look at the acts committed by Israel to be the result of Jewish values.
Think about that.
After careful thought, I've come to consider that you are encouraging people to hate Israel & the Jews. Thus, by extension, also liberal democratic values.
Can you define Zionism?
Zionism is the belief that Jews should have the right to self determination if you are anti Zionist you are antisemitic. Every group deserves the right to self determination
@@Daniebraids A people has a right to national self-determination, but not if it comes at the expense of the same right possessed by others. You can critique an ideology if it depends on denying to others the very humanity and dignity that it demands for itself. That has nothing to do with antisemitism. It is applying a basic moral principle of consistency and reciprocity. As you yourself say, "Every group deserves the right."
@@John-c3u9o Zionism is not predicated on denying anyone else rights, the only reason Palestinians don't have rights is because they don't want to live in peace next to a Jewish state, they want the destruction of Israel more than they want their own state. If they wanted their own state they could have had it long ago, Israel is only taking measures to prevent the massacre of their population by people who have a jihadists ideology and who goal is an Islamic caliphate and the idea of Israel having any sovereign state in that area is an afront to their religious ideology. Do you think Israel should commit suicide because the Arabs hate them and won't be satisfied until they are subjugated?
They never talk about their anti white hate, so I don't care. Cry more