Suffer the Little Children Podcast - Episode 114: Jasmine Cannady & JJ Bright
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- On a seemingly mundane Monday afternoon in February of 2021, a 911 call summoned police to an unassuming two-story brick home in Ambridge, Pennsylvania. On the front porch, officers found 48-year-old Krisinda Bright waiting for them, covered in what she freely admitted was the blood of two of her children: 16-year-old JJ Bright and 22-year-old Jasmine Cannady, both of whom were inside the home, dead from apparent gunshot wounds to the head.
JJ, a transgender boy who socially transitioned at age 12, and Jasmine, who identified as nonbinary and used they/them pronouns, have been consistently misgendered by most media outlets from the start, and JJ has been deadnamed in news articles more times than I can count. In life, they deserved the respect of being referred to by their preferred pronouns and JJ by his chosen name; in death, the very least we can do is remember them with dignity and respect, the way they both deserve.
This is the tragic story of Jasmine Cannady and JJ Bright.
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Your children are truly blessed to have such an intelligent and caring mother. I thank you for showing us your compassion and love for all the children you speak about as well.
The life your child(ren) live rarely align with the life we imagine they will live. They're their own people with their own hopes and dreams for themselves and that's okay. I have four children and not one of them is who I thought I was going to give birth to. As their mother my job is to love and support them in whatever their best life is, even if it isn't the one I would have chosen for them. All I want is for them to be happy and successful.
This is my Mother and Sisters. I still cry everyday.
This story is about your mother and sisters? I’m so sorry.
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I'm so sorry for your loss.
this episode totally went past the fact that their mother killed them and only focused on the transgender thing.
You missed the point, I see.
I agree with you lisa. While the episode was dedicated to the lives of these 2 children and the mis pronunciation of their gender or identity, it solely focused on the fact that yes, they were transgender, which in my opinion was not the motive for their murder. The point if the story is that they were killed. So, host, take this constructive feedback with a grain of salt or however you choose to. You made your opinion heard, but wrong platform imo.
@@jelenamocnik8662 Since it's Pride month, I feel the information I presented is important even if it wasn't the motive for JJ and Jasmine's murders. Thanks!
I have to admit when I first listened to this episode I felt the same way. I felt there was less focus on the crime (the murder of jasmine and Jj) and more focus on their gender identities and on the trans community. I’m very glad I decided to re watch the episode again before commenting. While yes there is definitely a large amount of content about their gender, and statistics on gender related crimes it is still somewhat relevant to this case. I do not believe that their mother took their lives due to their genders at all (I strongly believe she had some type of mental breakdown and I don’t feel her mental health was adequately treated at all, likely resulting in her actions). Jasmine clearly also had some serious mental health struggles too, which I don’t remember treatment being mentioned. The world needs to do better to assist in recovery from mental health issues for all humans! While there was a lot of focus on their genders in this episode, had the media (and some closed minded family members) published the name Jeffery or Jj instead of the name and gender he was assigned at birth, this likely wouldn’t have needed to been such a strong focus of this episode. Also, none of us personally knew jasmine or Jj and perhaps they would both want there to have been strong emphasis on using their chosen genders/pronouns to create awareness. Also when I listened back the second time I did notice there was also countless quotes from people who knew both victims, as well as their mother, and those quotes were all very focused on who each person was as an individual, so there actually was more balance than I originally thought. I’m very glad I chose to listen back as my original thoughts on the content was not what I feel now. As a mum who’s daughter is part of the LGBTQI+ community I can understand the importance and value in highlighting crimes related to this community. The only thing I would have liked a bit more emphasis on is the lack of mental health care, or the insufficient care in krisindas case, but I also understand if you went into lengthy details about every single area the videos would be multiple parts long! Thank you, and my apologies for both not seeing the balance at first and for my very long winded comment 🤣
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast maybe I missed the point of this channel
Hey
So I went to high school with JJ. And while it's appreciated that this video serves as a way to honor JJ and Jasmine's memory the tone used throughout the video does not capture the experience of the community.
I apologize for how this comment may come off, but it feels as though you have added a martyristic tone to a tragedy that was not perceived as such to Ambridge as a whole.
Ambridge, for the most part, is a safe place to be LGBTQIA+ openly. Few people went out of their way to be homophobic and transphobic, and when they would we would laugh at their feeble attempts to yell the f slur at teenagers.
When this hardship happened in our town we were sad and confused. What could bring a mother to do that to her children? No one assumed it was because of JJ's or Jasmine's identity. There was no speculation; it was never a discussion.
It is extremely unfortunate that issues concerning misgendering started, however, it was mostly on paper. Many of us students heard about the events through word of mouth and when given information on what happened, we heard JJ and Jeffrey and he and him, as well as they/them pronouns for Jasmine.
Additionally, those who do not live in this town rarely understand that this town is quicksand. You have to find a way out before you eventually give up and let it consume you. Over half of the school district's population is living under the poverty line (an overall town rate of 13.8%) and many of us are facing severe mental health issues, to the point where talking your friends out of su*c*de was not uncommon. We are all swimming against the tide.
So, rounding back to the question: what could bring a mother to that to her children? We knew. We were all shocked that someone in town, someone who seemed normal, would actually snap.
(Ambridge stats: www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/ambridgeboroughpennsylvania/PST045221 )
(P.S. if anyone has read this far and you feel like you are experiencing mental health issues please, please, please find the support you need. Mental health is a journey and you have to find out what works for you. Even if you don't feel better today or tomorrow or the day after that, just keep going a little longer and you'll find yourself in a place isn't as bad as today, yesterday, or even the day before that.)
Hi! I’m sorry for your loss; JJ and Jasmine both seemed like amazing people! I wonder if there was a miscommunication, because I definitely never felt the sense that the people of Ambridge was not accepting of the siblings’ gender identities. More so, the media was responsible for their misgendering and deadnaming. If I caused any confusion, I apologize! Thanks for your perspective!
I don't think that anything negative was said about the location Jasmine and JJ lived and died as much as there was a call out against the media for disrespecting the victims.
This breaks my heart.
What kind of mother would kill her kids for not being “normal”? For not accepting who they are?
As someone with trans and non binary friends myself, this hits hard. Why would anyone kill these two kids, who had so much of a bright future ahead of them?
These kids deserved better.
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It wasn't a hate crime. She didn't kill them because they were different. She had a bunch of inner demons & ptsd that wasn't properly handled or treated.
I'll Never understand why people can't just be who they are! Respect each other, and quit harassing people. J. J.,and Jasmine weren't hurting anyone! I believe in live, and let live. I accept people for who they are. So much unnecessary pain! Jasmine was having such a rough time. 40%???? My God, that's Devastating! Why can't people mind their own business??
Disappointed
I'm glad you have spoken up for the trans community and bringing awareness, but I'm so confused with this episode, why did their mother kill them? Was there any signs leading up to it? How did she get a shotgun?
No one, apparently including Krisinda, knows why she did it, and no one saw any signs. As for how she got a shotgun, I have no idea, especially since she has a history of mental health treatment!
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast I wondered about the shotgun myself, but we live in a country where buying guns is as easy as buying a loaf of bread... Literally anybody can just go out on the streets and buy a locked and loaded gun, no matter what kind that they want, and it will, a lot of times, be completely untraceable. There is a reason why the USA had more mass shootings, and gun related deaths per capita, than anywhere else in the world. It hurts. I hate this country anymore. I used to be proud to be an American, but not anymore. 😭😭
@@beccaowens4843 The teenager who killed 19 kids and 2 teachers in Uvalde, Texas was able to buy not one but TWO AR-15s. He was 18. Because he was 21, though, he wasn't allowed to buy a handgun. Does that make sense to anyone!?
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast it makes me sick thinking about it. They aren't old enough to go into a bar a buy a drink, but they are old enough to own assault rifles, shotguns, and other weapons of war????? How does that even make sense? How did they think that would end? One man to rule over the bodies of millions forever? I despise hate, and all this is, is more hate. We used to be a country proud of our immigrants. Because immigrants came over here and literally started from the bottom, with next to nothing, and had to fight and claw their way to the top. And now immigrants are hated, and dehumanized, by a population not afraid of their consequences, because they know they can buy their way out of any trouble they get into.
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast Laine, what is the best way to mention story suggestions for the podcast?
I hope that that "woman" suffers greatly for what she did to those beautiful babies. Thank you, from all of us in the LGBTQ+ community, for your support and love toward the Pride Movement! You are a true superstar, Laine!!!!
❤🧡💛💚💙💜🏳️🌈
Jasmine’s status updates are heartbreaking.
I feel you.
RIP Jasmine and JJ.
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Youth is a very hard time for LGBTQ+. I remember being completely disgusted with my emerging secondary sexual characteristics, as a child. It doesn't cost anything to treat all people with respect, regardless of who they identify as.
I literally just stopped everything I was doing to comment on this episode. Laine you are so insightful, thoughtful, and articulate with all of your episodes, but this one in particular hit a nerve with me. One of my children identifies as non binary. And when you were speaking of your own experiences with your child at the very end of the episode it was so bang on with my own feelings about any lgbtq+ children and adolescents. When my child first came out as being transgender and asked to start being called by their chosen name, I promised them that I would do everything in my power to advocate for them. It has been challenging to have others understand the concept of non-bianary; however, we have been very fortunate that MOST have done their best to TRY to understand. I am grateful that the community we live in, for the most part, is very open minded. The school my child attends is a safe space and has even put their chosen name on all of their school documents. But in the beginning, I explained to my child, while you are transitioning, so is everyone else. It is a process for not just my child, but for me and your brother too. But now, 4 years later, everyone in the family and our immediate circle, including our grandparents, has accepted my child as they are. Thank you for sharing your own story and advocating for ALL children, they all deserve to be treated with love, care, and respect regardless of how they identify. I will fight anyone who has anything otherwise to say!
Rip jj and jasmine your story will stick with me hard as I am part of pride 😭❤️
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Rest In Peace J.J., and Jasmine 🥀🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
You seem more upset by the misgendering than the murdering.
Rest well Jasmine and JJ. The world is missing two of it's brightest lights.
I've watched nearly all your episodes and love them but this one felt like a lecture.
Some people need a lecture.
Thank You for sharing these Heartbreaking Stories.
Laine, you are such a freakin' superstar...thx SO much for your VERY needed & VERY thoughtful words with regards to trans youth. Parents have **got** to realize their children are wholly separate, autonomous human beings, with their very own individual thoughts & feelings & needs & wants...REGARDLESS of "how we raised you!!"
Failing to, or not figuring out how to improve your own emotional maturity to the point you CAN accept that fact dooms a parent/child relationship to one of surface-level connection as the BEST outcome. It can (depending on the child) only take ONE TIME for a child to be made to feel mocked or betrayed or frightened to speak their true feelings OR be forced to confirm they think/believe something YOU want them to, regardless how they actually feel, to break that bond *forever*.
Kids who don't feel their parents/family/home is a safe environment will develop all manner of negative behaviors & mental states, from self-harming to depression & massive anxiety, to sneaking out as a last resort to be where & with ppl they do feel safe & comfortable & ACCEPTED. Which can make them extremely vulnerable & easy prey for those who would do them harm. It astonishes me there are parents who would prefer that to just loving their children.
I am gonna stop even tho this is well & truly my current soapbox issue & I could quite literally rant abt it all day lol...anyway, FANTASTIC job, as always, Ms. Laine. 👍🏼🥰
I am unsubscribing. There are far too many true crime channels to pick from without having to be lecture to and preach to about politics. Stick to the story stick to the facts. No 1 wants to be preached to. Sianara
Hmm... interesting that you interpreted "trans people deserve respect" as political. You just proved you're the kind of person I don't want listening to my show, anyway. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
(Also, it's "sayonara." If you're going to flounce, at least spell your salutation correctly.)
@@melissafaucett7895 Gotta love it! It’s not an airport; it’s TH-cam!
Thank you for sharing the stories of Jasmine and JJ 💔💔❤️❤️
Some of these comments remind me of a wise quote I once read:
"Speaking with discretion promotes integrity of your word and is a reflection of emotional maturity."
-Charlotte Maloney
My heart goes out to J.J.,and Jasmine. Heartless Murder of her Innocent Children!!🥀💔🙏🕊️🥀💔🙏🕊️🥀💔🙏🕊️🥀💔🙏🕊️
Wow you really went woke for this one didn't you...
Uh, no... I didn't have to "go woke." As I said in the episode, my son is trans, so this is a subject near and dear to me. If you don't like it, move on.
@M. Luhmann Your ignorance speaks volumes....tells us all we need to know !!
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast I didn't even get far enough into the video to hear that part- but either way, your personal life and political ideology is not why I followed your channel. It's nothing against your child, it's just my opinion as a subscriber. You advertise yourself as giving a voice back to victims of child abuse and I admire that- but this video was clearly just pandering to a certain group of people. These victims were neither abused nor children. They were adults whose mother murdered them- which is awful, but apparently no one knows why this happened and it had nothing to do with them being transgender... Their mother supported them. So why did you choose to make their entire lives and murders about them being transgender?
@@m.luhmann6520 As you said, you didn't get very far into the video, so you missed the point of the entire episode. Just because they weren't murdered for being transgender doesn't mean they don't deserve the respect of being referred to by their preferred pronouns and JJ by his chosen name. Again, it's Pride month, and it was my decision to spend it highlighting the stories of kids who either identified as part of the LGBTQ+ community or were killed by caretakers who made assumptions about their sexual orientation/gender identity. As part of these stories, I'm damn well going to educate my listeners about pertinent topics (as I do as often as possible in all of my episodes). If you don't want to hear about my personal life, political ideology, etc., by all means, go start your own podcast and do with it as you wish! It's clear no amount of education about the subject is going to change your mind
@@SuffertheLittleChildrenPodcast I didn't say anything about referring to them by their preferred pronouns or being transgender... I was commenting on how you made their entire lives and deaths about it, when it was only part of who they were and had nothing to do with why they were murdered... In my opinion, you're using these people's deaths for your own personal reasons (they were NOT murdered for being trans) but it's convenient for the political narrative this month.
I have been listening to your podcast for a while now as I love true crime, but it was this episode in particular that had me subscribe on TH-cam and Spotify, I have given you a 5 star review on Spotify and will subscribe to your patreion once I have a little extra cash to do so! Anyone who thinks that the topic of transgender bigotry and violence isn't worth dedicating an episode towards has fortunately never had to worry about their child being ambushed, or jumped because of how they choose to identify. They have never had to hear their child cry at night because they wish they didn't exist due to feeling so isolated from their peers, they have never had to go to school meetings and fight with administration about what qualifies as "bullying". And for these people, I pray you never have to. But please don't for a second try to pretend that these aren't significant issues relevant to ALL of our children.
The devil is hard at work in this corrupt world, and we ALL need Jesus ❤.... only solution.
No matter what either of them choose to be called they were human and deserved better from their mother
Of course the news outlets dead named them... sad. Hope they are resting in peace together ❤️
Ofcourse? No. I think the majority were unintentional. With the growing list of identities under the LGBTQ+ community, it's easy to get confused... and its much smarter by any community to help educate the people around them, not find a new way to be offended at every turn. ...imo
@@ninachkah13 It really isn’t hard to call someone by their chosen name, and you would expect news outlets to do some basic research into stories
💜 with love… (🌈gay love 🌈) thank you Ms Laine! I appreciate your hardest work! RIP JJ and Jasmine 💜 listening to your story, i wish I had the chance to know you both 💙
I was in the BCJ with Krisinda. This wasn't a hate crime. Just demons
RIP 🙏 Jazmyn & JJ 🕊 😇
I have to say, I agree. Krisinda didn't seem like she had a problem with her kids' gender identities. It's just such a tragedy.
💔 not a day I don’t think of you guys
That was my daughter
It says there is no stream 🙁
Is it working now?
Yes it’s perfect and thank you for sharing this tragic story! May those sweet babies Rest In Peace
If anyone is offended by the contents of this podcast- look inward and resolve the issues that lurk within yourself.
You did a great job with this episode. I hope the ignorant people in the comments can learn and be more respectful ❤️
Jasmine wrote “i…….” So if “they” use they/them wouldn’t she say “we” about herself?
Couldn’t a tans person identify as whatever they want but keep their name? And isn’t taking a typically girl/boy name kinda what they are so against? Same with clothing…?
I don’t want to make you mad with my comment I just don’t understand and I would like to understand if I’m thinking the wrong way…..
But to me I just think labels shouldn’t matter and forcing everyone else to call you a new name or as he/she isn’t easy (for either that person or everyone else) to get on board with and used to doing.
I think it’s fine to do whatever they want and people shouldn’t care- at the same time I think if “everyone else” doesn’t want to call them something they should t be SO ANGRY. It just shouldn’t matter so much to them what other people do (on both sides)
I feel like the he she label should just be biogically for medical purposes and who cares what someone is referred to.
Try to think about if it was me and I think I’d just feel like a male and look however I want and keep my name (cause I just like it) and not give a F if people call me a boy or girl-personally.
I KNOW This isn’t how most trans feel about it and that’s by it’s an issue….. but I don’t know why they feel so strongly about it….
Just trying to figure out why labels and names are such an issue
Yeah, I don't understand that either. There is nothing wrong with being male. There is nothing wrong with being female. So being called that wouldn't be an insult especially when not done with any intentions to insult. The news is going to report the facts. The coroner is going to idenify the child as what they are biologically. Male and Female are not slander words. They are not derogatory.
I'm a transman and might be able to answer some questions.
They/them have been used for a single person for ages. Such as "Oh no! Someone forgot their backpack! I hope they find it!" :3 As such they wouldn't say "We" when they find their backpack but simple "Hey, that's my backpack!" If the person it belonged to turned out to be nonbinary.
As for why us transfolks can get a bit upset when called something we aren't... If you call any cisman a girl you'll find him angry. If you ask a ciswoman if they're a dude they will become angry. As such, it can also be offensive and dysphoric to transpeople to be referred to a the gender we aren't.
9/10 times though we will simply respond, for example in my case, "Oh, I'm not a girl. I'm a guy."
But 1/10 times someone might have been misgendered all day and as such be a little snappy when being misgendered once more. Think about if someone misgendered you for a whole day.
Woman or man is not an insult at all but to any man or woman it can feel insulting to be seen as the opposite gender. I mean, we've all heard women insulted and being told they look like a man. Or how a man who is weak hits like a girl.
I'm hoping both of you asked these questions in good faith and from actually wanting to learn.
I have a lot of anxiety typing this as I don't usually get into these kinds of discussion.
@@JuJuOfTheBees But as people we should respect the wishes of the dead. A lot of transpeople are buried and correctly gendered. We also don't report people as simply being buried or deceased but as "A family-oriented businessman tragically died today."
Man or woman is not an insult as I explained in another comment. But think about how you'd feel being called the wrong gender all day or all week or all month.
I've never met a man who didn't get insulted by even being seen as feminine even though being feminine is not bad.
I haven't met a woman who hasn't felt insulted if it was implied that she was a man.
We're simply wanting people to respect us^^
As I said in my earlier comment I hope your comment was in good faith.
As a transman it gives me a lot of anxiety to write this comment but I hope to make people understand by explaining kindly instead of being angry^^
For the they/them pronouns, it's how someone wants to be addressed by others. Similar to he/him for men and she/her for women. When speaking about themselves as a person, of course they'd use the I possessive. They would just want other people to call them they/them because they don't identify with a set gender. At least, that's what I believe non-binary means?
For transgender, if the person identifies as a man/boy and wants to go under a masculine or gender neutral name other than the name given to them at birth, call them by the name they want to be called. It's like deliberately refusing to call somebody by their name and is disrespectful. I am not trans but I have been misnamed by people and it makes me angry. Dead naming somebody is also disrespectful.
@@bitchstophe When using they/them in your example, "Oh no! Someone forgot their backpack! I hope they find it!". We could also add, "I feel bad for them.". So, now we have all three they/them/their in reference to one person. The question is, in this context, why are plural pronouns being used in reference to a singular person? The answer is, that we all know why plural pronouns are being used. They're being used in this context for the simple fact that we do not know the proper pronoun of the person left the backpack behind. It could have been a girl, a boy, a man or a woman thus plural pronouns are substituted for proper pronouns. In actuality and the English language that, in no way, translates to the way any singular person would/should or has identified throughout history. In fact, any person identifying as they/them/their would, in the past, be seen as suffering from multiple personality disorder, (now DID) and would/could refer to themselves as we. The pronoun circus is ridiculous. Just wear a name tag.
Thank you so so much for talking about this and being so respectful. Thank you for ignoring the ignorant people in the comment section. As a transman my gender is not a political statement. I am a man. I am not harming anyone. I simply want to live as true to myself as possible and recieve the basic respect we extend to everyone else. Thank you so much once more. LGBTQIA is not a political statement and I hate how some people take it as such. I would love to wake up cis and hetero tomorrow. It seems to be so much easier than always having to see hate for people like myself. I say this even though I unlike a lot of people have been blessed with supportive family and friends.
Thank you again. Thank you for all that you do. Thank you for shedding light onto these tragic stories of child abuse. Thank you for standing up for the LGBTQIA community.
I'm actually having severe anxiety writing this comment because I am terrified of having hate against me.
But I still felt the need to face that fear and thank you.
Have an amazing Pride month. I hope you and your son have the happiest of days💜🏳️🌈
With all my heart, I sincerely hope you did not receive hate for your comment.
Thank you for you commitment to respecting those of us in the lgbt community. Often erasure of lgbt persons becomes heightened after their passing (many lgbt people get this treatment by surviving family members/acquaintances and those who do not do research about persons) I know I'm a bit late to the comment section but I wanted to thank you
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