Doctor Who 8x2 REACTION!! "Into the Dalek"
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- Eric Shane Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss Season 8 Episode 2 of Doctor Who - Into the Dalek
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"She's my carer. She cares so I don't have to."
Sums up 12 in series 8. A lot of people seemed to not like 12 in this series, but I love him. So deliciously complex and layered. As the guys have said, he totally felt like an alien.
I certainly enjoyed Series 9 more overall, but I loved The Doctor's characterisation in Series 8, I feel like they dial it back in the two following series.
MrAzmatMahmood 12 in season 8 is awesome, but a lot of the episodes are not.
@@r.4315 LabradorIndependent There aren't any all time classics in series 8. The closest we got was with "Mummy on the Orient Express" and "Flatline". The only bad episodes are "Robots of Sherwood", "Kill the Moon" and "In the Forest of the Night" though. The rest of the episodes all range from very good to decent. The character arc of the Doctor is great, Clara and the Doctor's dynamic is interesting and the Missy story arc is simple and easy to follow. It also pays off well in the finale. So, I'd say series 8 is a solid series.
In terms of episode quality, I think series 9 is on equal terms with series 8, but what let's it down is the mishandling of 12's character at certain points, the story arc being messy and confusing and having a terrible payoff on top of that. Also, the finale completely undermining Clara and the Doctor's character arc, not to mention the previous two episodes "Face the Raven" and "Heaven Sent" (which is absolutely an all time classic). Episodes like "The Girl Who Died", "The Women Who Lived", "Sleep No More" and of course "Hell Bent" don't help matters.
Lol, that quote is one of the best dynamics I've ever heard.
Quoting Jenna Coleman "Matt is like a tornado who dances round the room, whereas Peter makes the room come to him. Peter has something mythical about him - you could believe he's 2000 years old."
Yeah he's the Ancient long forgotten Wizard that is all knowing of dark forgotten secrets and holds all the keys for the hero ti win lol.
atta nabil two of them are so different but both make amazing doctors. Jenna probably had a lot of fun working with them.
@@iwillcry Amazing indeed - for me, Capaldi and Smith are the two best Doctors of the NuWho era, up there with Tom Baker and Patrick Troughton. Don't get me wrong, I think the other Doctors are great, but 11 and 12 ticked all the right boxes for me.
ftumschk Agree. I think, ultimately, everyone just have their own style of Doctor. But they’re all great actors.
@@iwillcry It's one of the pleasures of watching Doctor Who, we get to fall in love with different Doctors for different reasons. But for me, twelve and Clara are my favourite pairing in Doctor Who. They both are domineering characters with shades of darkness which makes the relationship very complex, strange, and kind of Charmed. I just love them together. ^-^
Peter Capaldi is the one who actually insisted on dropping the romance “It would have been completely creepy,” he said in an interview. “It’s fine if you have handsome young men like Matt Smith and David Tennant, but as a father I felt it would be inappropriate.” The guy is just a pure class act.
atta nabil I always looked at it more like a familial relationship. In fact, if you take the romance out of it, it’s even more interesting given the intensity of the relationship.
@@vanillamc1 In several panels, Peter has described the relationship between 12 and Clara as a very deep and emotional one; I mean it's enough to know that the music used as an emotional cue for his relationship with Clara was (strange Kind of Love); th-cam.com/video/leu5Iu8c_mU/w-d-xo.html
They kind of added it back in towards the end though. Not as bluntly but still
I don’t get how people misinterpret that as romance.
“Hi I really don’t want my best friend and the person who has helped me through so much to die.” Apparently equals romance.
@@aleahaibrahim8362 I mean, best friends can still be in love with each other romantically. Kind of like how some couples describe and view their significant other as their 'best friend' and whatnot. With Clara and Twelve, I suppose it's up to one's interpretation just what kind of relationship they shared. There are cases to be made for each side, romantic or platonic, and really it comes down to whatever floats your boat.
"You are a good dalek."
The fire. The intensity. Because he knows the dalek is right.
This is why Capaldi is sensational. For moments like this.
1000000 times weaker than in "Dalek"
@@DasKame No.
The character development for Capaldi over his three seasons is so rewarding.
Series 8 = Grumpy old man
Series 9 = Happy old man
Series 10 = Wise old man
He's to cool grandpa/uncle who moved to vegas
The best description I have ever seen. Grumpy old man is at his best in Mummy on the Orient Express, Happy old man is at his best in Heaven Sent and Wise old man is at his best in World Enough and Time and The Doctor Falls and Twice Upon a Time.
He’s happy in heaven sent?
Series 11 = Missing old man
Shane is really taking to Capaldi at a faster rate than he did Matt. Guess he's use to it now.
Peter's Doctor (esp this season) is somewhat Shane like, very acerbic and ready with a cutting joke but you know there is a heart of gold in there.
@@Ragnarok345
I completly disagree. Nobody that is a part of Blind wave can be called "dumb". They all have their own forms of intelligence.
@@Ragnarok345 You can't call idiot to someone that hasn't show you his real capacity. He just likes to act silly, it's part of entertainment.
"She seems almost Gallifreyan"
Aaron Poker Face level 9000 engages
Yeah, does anyone wanna take bets to see if they figure Missy out on their own or not? I feel like they're probably gonna at this point, considering they're already pretty close, even with very little to go on.
“Irene Adler to his Sherlock”
@@Wolf6119 My memory, is that people called it within a few episodes - then everyone started second guessing themselves, and going for wilder guesses.
I was actually really shocked when i found out who Missy was but i was about 13 during this season but they may guess she's a time lord and could even guess correctly but might doubt themselves thinking it's stupid. Then Eric will look at Aaron during the reveal and be like 'u son of a bitch you knew this whole time you fuck'
The way he looked into the camera dramatically before he said it is a little suspicious to me. Not to mention (and I may have heard it incorrectly) but at 22:28 it seems like he's about to say "I don't know if i'd go so far as to say she's The M..." before Shane brings up Mary Poppins.
Does Eric know something he's not telling us?
Missy isn’t anybody important so I wouldn’t look too much into it
Yup, just a sexy mama 😍😍😍
@Thomas Meehan How the hell was that even a surprise to you? Moffat loves name puns, just look at Pond and River
I though everyone figured it out as soon as they reveal her name...
@@Pir-o
Some people (like me) just don't think about it. I suppose if I analysed and thought about it I would've reached a conclusion, but essentially my thought process was 'Ooh, she seems important... Okay, next episode!'
...I suppose it helped that I didn't watch the season until I had it on DVD so there wasn't any downtime for me.
@@Meteorite_Shower Yeah, if I'm not watching a mystery, or if the overarching theme isn't to try to make the audience guess what's going on, then I tend to just relax when watching a show or movie. I'll still be invested, but I don't tend to analyse too much unless called for, because that may cause me to spoil myself on a plot twist or ending. It certainly has happened in the past.
@@Pir-o How is her name a pun?
one of my favourite
"Is Ross here?"
"Yeah, top layer if you want to say a few words"
I like how they already noticed this Doctor's vulnerability and different need for a companion (maybe because he's the first of a new regenaration cycle). Like Madame Vastra said, he doesn't have a mask anymore, and I think that's one of the reason this Doctor can also feel more alien.
The relationship between 12 and Clara is my favourite thing about Capaldi's era and the previous episode was mainly about setting that up. This episode is more about setting up threads and themes for the whole season.
Yes, they're already hitting on the major notes of the season, mainly 12's dilemma of who he is now. The season's gonna explore that question, but he himself will only have the revelation in the finale.
And I agree with you, Capaldi and Clara's run is entirely focused on their relationship and it's the most exciting part (even though almost everything is exciting during this tenure), and it's gonna be the major theme of season 9.
fun fact: the red lining on his coat was inspired by the Third Doctor
Eric: It's a mystery that will Never EVER be solved
Aaron: Nope it wont * Deadpan stares down the camera *
**ARGHH**
I like Into The Dalek , especially for its exploration of Rusty and “a Good Dalek” . The chemistry between Clara and Twelve continues to be the highlight aswell .
I actually think Danny’s an alright character and his dynamic especially with the Doctor I certainly find interesting .
This Doctor is certainly taking longer to figure himself out and I attribute that to this being the first incarnation of a new cycle so he’s basically rediscovering himself .
I think the guys are kinda misunderstanding 12's personality. It's not that he doesn't find Clara unattractive, it's that he doesn't care what she looks like. It's not that he's insecure, it's that he doesn't care if people are judging him. It's not that he's not confident, it's that he's more honest when he doesn't know what he's doing.
The Twelfth Doctor just does not care about what people think, what they say, or what they do. He's a bit of a dick, and he's too old to care about it. Twelve is the Doctor finally showing his age and everything that comes with it. He's grumpy and doesn't like people, and he's no longer putting up the facade of being the dashing young hero that he's kept up for so long
bearing in mind, this is the second episode they've seen him in; you have a much different view where you've seen his whole arc over 3 seasons.
@@jameschan4929 yeah but it's obvious that's the kind of character they were going for even in this episode
@@DextroDNAOfficial I always thought he was being rude to Clara cause he wanted to lie to himself about his feelings for her (plus I dont think it actually mattered to him what she looked like, other than that she was his Clara). Even moffat says that this season the reason hes rude is cause he's trying to lie to himself and pretend he doesnt fancy her.
In fact just from this episode, and the boy's discussion i realised that he's actually so open and so vulnerable to Clara and cares immensely what she thinks about him, and trusts her with his insecurities.
as for him being rude to *other* people, i think you are right that he doesnt care anymore what people think as long has he is solving the problem at hand, especially after 1000 years on trenzalore.
@@ProEllusionist yeah, the Doctor trusts Clara with his insecurities but in no way has any feelings towards her
DextroDNA the *writer* and show runner who wrote the 11/12th Doctor’s character said he *does* -_-
22:15
"She kinda has a feeling of being like a *contemporary* to the Doctor almost..... I don't know if I'd go so far as to say shes (*Stares into camera dramatically*) she feels Galifreyan."
This combined with last episodes random "who's Missy?" lead me to assume Eric knows more about this season than he is letting on.
I can't wait for you to see the beautiful relationship between 12 and Clara. Its by far my favourite and it is beyond cute
Favourite doctor and favourite relationship :D
I like the idea Vastra suggested last episode that 11 was a mask, and he was comfortable enough with Clara to reveal his true self in 12.
I also think this unattractive Clara stuff is to convince himself and Clara that he isn't really attracted to her
they did that cause he's old and people would think its creepy. Thats the real reason.
@@Pir-o Capaldi was against it
Also because the doctor shouldn't have romances it doesn't fit the character, the only people who want that are mainstream casual fans. The only times a romance could really work for the character at all, is if it were another gallifreyan, or a member of a similar species at the same age as him
Unkn0wn_289 totally agree. i hated the weird sexual stuff between 11 & clara. bit of banter is alright but it went too far at times. i make an exception for river, because its river, but thats it
5:12 "Dalek anti body in there or something..."
Eric can like predicts everything... What's next? [Spoiler content]? XD
The current doctor turning her sonic screwdriver into a dildo.
Hi Guys, remember the difference in the Dr. is because he has a whole new regeneration cycle. This is the 1st time, we see the Dr. in this situation. With W.H. we joined him later on in his 1st self, the 12th Dr. is the W.H. of his new cycle.
One of the best discussions you've ever had about the Doctor and his journey. Very perceptive.
This is my first time watching capaldi episodes since they aired so nice to go through them again
I love how you react in one episode how people usually react after many episodes. I also love that car methaphore for the doctor !!
The way they break down the Doctor's personality in the discussion here is brilliant - nails why Series 8 is awesome, because Capaldi's portrayal of the Doctor is different, vulnerable and well developed over the series.
Capaldi's one of my favorite Doctors. And Episode 4 and 7 are gonna blow your minds.
> Episode 7
We don't talk about that
Eric will learn in time that it's not that 12 doesn't find Clara attractive anymore (he has eyes!), but that at this stage he's pretending he doesn't. He is aware of how much his last regeneration flirted with her. He told her last episode it was his mistake to act like her boyfriend. So 12 is very much making it a point to act the opposite. But imo that TOO is a mistake. And what I love about 12 and Clara as that as time goes on he drops both "acts" and learns that Clara is just Clara ("Clara, my Clara", "when do I not see you?") and their relationship needs no labels ("let's see what we are made of, you and I"), even if there IS attraction. (Which, to be clear, there *is*. Moffat: "It's been a while since I've seen the early stages of the 12th doctor trying to pretend he doesn't fancy Clara. 'Oh, you're ugly, disgusting, stop looking so good.'")
I'm glad they seem to like Danny. I might be in the minority ("might" because it's hard to tell if the majority is truly a majority or just a small loud group on the Internet), but I like Danny. I like his soldier past and how it shaped him as a person, and I like the conflict it creates with the Doctor. It allows for a lot of interesting character moments for both of them. One of my top scenes this season is Danny and the Doctor's confrontation in The Caretaker.
Excited for the next 2 episodes! 8x3 seems to not be very popular with fans (?) but I think it's hilarious and hello, Jenna Coleman in that gorgeous outfit? 10/10. And 8x4 is just brilliant. Can't wait.
edit: Great discussion on Twelve. The guys all understood very well that this Doctor is still trying to figure out who he is, and that the Doctor/Companion dynamic has shifted in important and new ways. ("She's my carer.") The comparisons to 10/11 are spot on.
In my opinion this has a lot of spoilers in it, but I will debate up to the episode they have seen.
12 and Clara's relationship is just forming.
The Doctor is not a middle school child who ignores Clara or throws rocks at her and hides.
This is the relationship of an eccentric Uncle and his Niece.
The Doctor has "duty of care" at this point and time and he realizes that he need Clara to help him figure out who he is.
This is a work of fiction and in that case we could both be right or we could both be wrong, that is the beauty of this.
"Doctor Who" builds it's own World and this may or may not be dealt with in future episodes, but only the 10th Doctor was "In Love" with a companion.
I don’t think he is pretending not to be interested, he’s just establishing (maybe clumsily) the new boundaries that come with the new relationship. Just because 12 loves Clara more than pretty much anything, doesn’t mean he’s sexually attracted to her.
0:47 - 1:00
Unless I'm forgetting if the show elaborates on this and Missy did actually say that word for word, I'm pretty sure that could just mean he mentally pushed him to the point he would jump.
I don't really see the difference being important since they're both actions that aren't great (whether or not the Doctor pushed him mentally or physically) but it's part of this Doctor, my favorite Doctor and I just thought it would be worth noting.
One of the best episodes of 12’s run
You will all grow to love this doctor as I did 😎
EEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexcept the Ratings. 8 to 10 it just drowns, sadly
Capaldi just knows how to captivate a room
look up 'Malcolm Tucker's Best Insults' and imagine the Doctor lambasting his enemies in this fashion, for a laugh
Get ready for two seasons of the doctor just roasting people
'Great idea for a movie...' nice reference to one of my favourite SF classics, Fantastic Voyage.
Eric is going to absolutely love a certain costume in the next episode, me thinks.
Took me years to realize that Clara has the answer to the good man question, she says it in Day of the Doctor:
“Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.” - Marcus Aurelius
Clara: "I'm his carer".
The Doctor: "Yeah, she cares so I don't have to".
The Twelfth Doctor sounds very different from any of the previous ones. Well except perhaps Six .....
Henry in NorCal or One
and some of 7th
I can't wait for them to react to that scene that sums up 12 and Clara's relationship from the perspective of an outsider.
Such a moving scene, and a great, complex relationship.
Scott Kliff what scene is that? I Can't remember :///
@@FrankRobinsonGillis54SPOILERS I assume OP means the scene that includes "Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?"
Can’t wait for you to see Listen. One of the best episodes of the modern era
Interesting how a lot of people forget that the doctor isn't attacking her appearance, he just can't tell what young is very well anymore. Hes been "young" and "old" so many times, its all a blur.
The Doctor didn't steal the coat, he traded his watch.
Did any of you notice a familiar duo from Black Mirror: White Bear? I didn’t catch it until I binged Capaldi’s seasons before Jodies debut
11:14 Great callback to Series One
Which Shane hates, even though series one is one of the best series. I get that it''s not as sharp and clean as normal TV shows but I'd rather have series one writing to series 8 and 9 writing.
@@editronvods Shane doesn't like it is because of the production values, which is a silly reason to not like a show. Especially because series 1's production values aren't actually bad for the time and the budget they had. Then again, Shane thinks series 6 and 7 are great and Clara's the best companion, so he's wrong about a lot of things....
@@Mrazmatmahmood That's what I mean. Unless it's something like Star Wars, he will question every show with questions that can easily be explained but will like an average episode more than others even though there are better episodes.
@@editronvods Yeah, he brushed aside all of the inconsistencies in series 6 and how flat most of the episodes are in series 7. He seemed to focus on the production values and all of the "cool" concepts like time disintegrating and all the other stuff he's said he enjoys and found great about the Smith era. However, I don't think he bothered with how those concepts were actually implemented into the stories and that the execution left much to be desired a lot of the time.
Eric's the only one who actually criticised the writing in series 6 and 7 sometimes and pointed out that the writers seemed to throw a lot of stuff at the wall to see what stuck. Like he said, some of it did and some of it didn't. Of course, everyone's entitled to their opinions, but I've been baffled and a bit disappointed that the other guys (Shane and Calvin at least) thought the show was better during Matt's run than it was during the RTD era. I will say that series 5 is one of best in the shows history though.
@@Mrazmatmahmood Series 1-4 may have lower production values but the writing is 1000% better than series 6 and 7. I am glad Eric understands that there is stuff in those two series that feel off. Everyone else seems to be on the bandwagon of just cause it looks cool or has cool concepts, its good which it isn't. I don't understand how they don't notice how different Clara feels as a character with no build. I'm glad they enjoy the show but I feel they don't notice the bad writing a lot of the time.
I know I've watched this one but somehow I don't remember this episode. Going to have to go back and watch it.
Good discussion, enjoyed listening.
(allow me to stand atop the Doctor Who high horse for a moment) I feel that with Capaldi, the show gets to weed out the "fan-girls" of the younger actors whom have portrayed the Doctor. I'm don't mean to take away from new Who; I'm a big fan of Smith and I've been watching the show since the classic series; I was there at the transition from Tom Baker to Davison.
Chantit Simma I see what you’re saying, and I think it’s a shame some have left for that reason. Not because I begrudge how anyone chooses to enjoy the show, but that they miss so much. It can be devastating to lose your Doctor, realizing they now have to make way for someone else. It so often requires a mourning period. I just hope some of them took that time and came back. At least, I hope so.
12:37 that struggle making a trick with his pen.
i forgot about how cute Danny Pink and Clara was in this episode :/ wish they kept this chemistry going
If e'er I'm playing poker and Aaron joins the table I will just take what I have and leave methinks ^.^
The first five episodes of Season 8 leaked online in script and early black and white workprint stage. They had temp music, unfinished effects, and differences from the final episode.
This episode originally ended with Dalek Rusty going to the Dalek ship and blowing himself up. In the finished episode, he not only doesn't kill himself (suicide bombing essentially) but there is an ADR line while Capaldi has his back turned saying, "Till the next time" to emphasize Dalek Rusty would be fine.
Next week's episode has one of the most jarring changes, made a week before the aired episode due to real life events, but one that leaves in dialogue to the deleted scene in the final episode...
Like you say Rusty's demise and the eventual decision to rewrite is understandable but next week's omission is so stark that with it, it changes the story completely from what we got
You have so great comments and interesting theories !!!
Michael Smiley again a Ben Wheatley fav. Also “tyres” from Edgar Wright & Simon Pegg series SPACED. Oi oi !
Zawe Ashton from this episode has been cast as the villain in Captain Marvel 2.
22:30 Aaron has the best pokerface when it comes to their predictions.
This is one of my favorite 12 episodes.
The Doctor didn't actually steal from the Homeless Man btw. Lol, "because I don't want us both to be cold so gimme your jacket", Lmao. The Doc mentions he traded 11s gold watch that he wore the wrong way round. He said it was his favourite watch but he wasn't thinking straight 😞😢
Being an American, where people practically worship the military, it was weird seeing how everyone treated Pink for being a veteran. I guess they don't tell vets "Thank you for your service" in the UK
J Tevo that’s kinda sad
It came out around the time many British and American soldiers were cought killing innocents in Iraq... Our soldiers did lots of good...But some did some terrible things also... And sometimes it was under orders
Loved the reaction! Speaking of American Gods, do you think you’ll be reacting to the New Season, which is now out?
Eric has very accurate instincts for this show
One more episode then boom best ep of the season
11:29 "It's not the first time a Dalek has told him, that he would make a good Dalek."
Yeah, this is something i've noticed before. The Ninth Doctor was fresh from the Time War, and believed he had killed two races at once. All that anger and hatred against the daleks was on the surface for the Metaltron to see. Here with Twelve, he no longer has the survivor's guilt of his previous incarnations, and has self-doubt. Not to mention someone looked inside his heart and saw hatred, which upsets him.
This doctor is the first that remembers that he didn't kill his people. The other doctors knew that they were not good people because of the what happened, but they still acted like they were because they wanted to be good. So now the 12th remembers that he didn't kill everything so the thing that the other doctors used to base their character off of is now gone. But the doctor has done some bad thing before, during, and after the time war but he has also done great thing so now the 12th is confused and questioning if he is a good or bad person.
The doctor believed that he has killed his own people for more than 1000 years and now that he didn't he is trying to get back to the man he used to be but he can't remember who that was.
Jenna Coleman really needs to work on her "pretend this empty cup prop is full of hot liquid" method. The mug of "tea" she brought into the Tardis and airplane in "Bells of Saint John" should have gone flying all over the floor within seconds of the scene starting, but she was still trying to sip from it at the end. Similarly, the coffee cups here look way too light to have anything in them. This is one of those things that once you've noticed it, you can never unnotice it.
I dont know why, but "She cares so I don't have to" feels like such a Tom Baker line of dialogue!
What you need to start watching witch you will love is Class witch is
Another doctor who spin off
Before Eddison Tollet was killed by white walkers, he was killed by Dalek antibodies.
Black Mirror season 5 trailer is out. Looks awesome.
Dear Blind Wave: Please watch some more Classic Doctor Who, and please watch: 'The Tenth Planet,' before: 'Series 10.' That would be great! :)
Upopular Opinion: I liked Danny Pink a lot and think that with better writing, he could have been liked by people more.
Clara and Danny’s relationship was definitely a bit forced, I found it cute but again it could have been written better.
Peter Capaldi was not my favourite doctor but for this season, this was my favourite episode and I love the running theme of the doctors doubt that he is a good man
_”I wonder if we’re starting to see a send-off of Clara...”_
Yeah, probably.
He actually traded his watch for the jacket
11:02 LOL THE FMAB REFERENCE
He's less frantic on the console because he uses the (to quote 11) "blue boringers"
Rusty: You are a Good Dalek.
Doctor's thoughts: I need 14 showers
Last epiosde when Vastra said the doctor wears a face to be accepted, I think it's also true for his personality. If you think about it the first person the 11th doctor meet was a little girl in the middle of the night, so of course he's going to act as unthreatening as he can and be silly to make her laugh and let her gaurd down to be comfortable with him. The first person 10 meet was Rose, the girl he has a thing for and she was in trouble, so going back to the 50th clara calls the 10th a hero. I think the 12th doctor doesn't really care enough to be accepted because he doesn't know who he is to begin with, and that's why in the last episode he seemed so vaulnerable with clara because he is finally showing her who he is and he doesn't want her to reject him.
If you look at the classic who doctors they don't have such drastic personality changes between regenerations because the doctor knows who he is and he didn't feel the need to be accepted the way new who doctors do because he has his own people where as the new doctors are all alone all they have is their companion.
Man I love Dr Who..its the best👽💫
I needed this after a shit day so great
Where's The Five(ish) Doctors reaction?
This episode should have been called "The good Dalek".
This Episode should have been called "Not as Good as Season1 -Dalek-"
Introducing Danny Pink, the most unfairly hated character in all of Doctor Who
I liked him
Nah he was such a wet blanket, self righteous cry baby
Chris Sewell That's like the exact description of Clara.
Bruce Wayne yeh but she’s hot lol
Samuel Pulkkinen he’s whole character development was “did you know I was soldier?”
I know it got a lot of hate, but I absolutely love the Robin Hood episode. Can’t wait.
MrValderviche I loved that episode as well.
Hey, forgive me if I'm wrong but I was looking at your site, and despite not being a patron (yet) I was able to view this. I assume you've made a mistake? Just thought you might like to know if that's the case.
My favorite episode this season!!!
Thats why Season 8 is the Worst of New Who
@Thomas Meehan Listen has the Worst outcome : "it was all a Nightmare Honey"
Ok Strax looks like "The Mountain " just taller
RUSTY!! ❤
Mr Pink and Journey Blue; soldiers that get two very different introductions to the WHO world. Blue meets the Doctor and he doesn't like soldiers, Pink meets Clara and she doesn't mind that he was a soldier. But both were somewhat insulted by things the Doctor and Clara had to say about soldiers.
"Am I a good man?" "You are a good Dalek" OUCH! Not the answer the Doctor was hoping for at all.
It's funny that you guys don't think Twelve is attracted to Clara. Sure, his comments about her looks are abrasive but he still needs her more than ever and tells her that. However, it no longer matters because Clara has eyes for fellow Coal Hill School teacher Mr Pink 😊
I'm going to continue to ignore Missy. Irene Adler is a good comparison 😉
So are you going to make your way to season 9 then? I tried finding Hell Bent reaction but can't find it. I noticed Melron started with season 10, so I guess this crew will do all of season 8 then 9. :/
why would you expect them to suddenly start skipping episodes??? of course they'll watch every episode.
Possibly an unpopular opinion but I’m not a fan of Mr. Pink.
I'm not a Fan of the entire 8th Season. Thank Gog 9-10-11 gain better
Same. I can't put my finger on it but Danny just always seemed a little unnecessary.
Subbed because of doctor who.
Detective Eric rises to challenge Detective Calvin...
But how do the daleks keep on recognising the doctor after his regenerations?
The doctor's coldness is a self defensive mechanism. The last two doctors had their hearts broken...repeatedly. In answer to that, this regeneration gave him a thick skin. Not the hugging type. But a lot of "New Who" fans never really knew a lot of the classic who doctors. They don't realize that the doctor always has had this darker, serious and often egotistical personality.
mashallah on clara's look
Oh yeah, they give the Doctor a huge hate boner for soldiers in this season, I almost forgot. I realize it's maybe supposed to be like him rejecting his own more recent past with the War Doctor and all the war-ish stuff 11 did, but it always seemed so arbitrary for someone who had a Brigadier as a best friend, just to name one of many companions who either started with or eventually moved onto a military career.
The Doctor has never been particularly fond of soldiering or military discipline, but disliking soldiers themselves just because they're soldiers (even when Blue, in this episode, did the opposite of what a soldier would have done, according to the Doctor's own definition, by not blowing the Dalek up like her mission told her to), just seems so petty and silly.
I never got it because wasn't the point of DotD that he accepted his soldier side and everything he did during the Time War. But apparently no as soon as he found out he didn't actually use the moment he suddenly starts saying "Soldiers are so awful"
@@jameshughes7946 Yeah it makes no sense at all really. I always figured they just shoehorned it in because they needed a flimsy reason for him and Danny to not get along.
Guhh, it's so frustrating to think back on this season honestly. Capaldi is a great actor, he deserved way better than he got for his first season.
@@Wolf6119 That's always been my opinion. I was so excited when Capaldi got the role after watching him in The Thick Of It. And was so disappointed with his first season, after rewatching I liked it more but still disappointing
@@Wolf6119 Well, I always thought that it's similar to the 9th Doctor, with both being born out of war, 12 having just regenerated from a war lasting 100s of years.
@@jameshughes7946 That was then followed by A thousand years on Trenzalore. The Doctor must be sick to death of War at this point. He probably just wants to be as far from it as he possibly can and that includes distancing himself from anything related to war.
Calvin is a bit wrong here; the first Dalek said: "You WOULD be a good Dalek"!! This Dalek here, Rusty, said; "You ARE a good Dalek"!! Just for info,,
A very good episode. Not fond of Danny Pink but he does well as plot.
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@@somedudeontwitterstalkedme3829 It's not at all a spoiler. It's my opinion of the character. I gave no specific reasons or future knowledge of the series.
@@georgiespencer895 you did on the fact that they would be in future episodes
@@somedudeontwitterstalkedme3829 Don't you ever get tired of harassing people?
George Spencer Danny’s a good enough character but *spoiler* his relationship with Clara felt so forced. Even that other teacher with the bow tie that 12 thought was her boyfriend had better chemistry
Never really understood why the Doctor was against the idea of a "good Dalek" when we've seen 2 in the past. Season 1's Dalek and Dalek Caan who outright organised a genocide on the species.
The Dalek from season 1 wasn't good, it just lacked purpose. It set out to regroup with the Dalek fleet and conquer the galaxy only to discover that there is no Dalek fleet, so it killed itself. I wouldn't describe that as good
And Caan actually saved the Dalek race by pulling Davros out of the time war, it went insane doing so but it's original intent was to save the Daleks
Suicidal and genocidal do not equal good
Fair point but to play the Devil's advocate, the first Dalek was part-human because of Rose. Dalek Caan went crazy in a time vortex. He's basically like the Dalek version of the Master. There hasn't been a sane, purebred Dalek that wasn't evil.
@@jackrichardson7020 Then why was Rusty considered good when all he was spouting out was "the Daleks are evil and must be destroyed"
@@connorwood9211 he wasn't 'good' he explicitly says he isn't a good Dalek, there's no such thing.
(Spoilers below)
“I wonder if we’re about to see the send off of Clara”
Me: *chuckles*
"Where are we going?"
"Into Darkness. 'Star Trek Into Darkness.' Terrible film, but there's this suicide bomber who looks just like Mickey, an idiot who used to travel with me, and the bloke who plays Scotty is a dead ringer for the Editor of Satellite 5."
Also, a moment of silence for the last good Dalek episode (imo)...as of 2019.
I don't know f Shane will change his favorite doctor. everybody keeps saying give him time twelve will be his favorite doctor but i dont think so. Matt Smith is still my favorite doctor and even though i enjoyed the next two it never went away and his era is the only era i keep coming back to to watch again and again. saying shane will SURELY change his opinion to suit yours is disrespectful i think. that being said, i really enjoy their reactions getting familiar with 12.
I thought they took to 12 a lot faster than most people did. And I agree, people should really calm down and let the reactors decide for themselves who their favorite Doctors are.
The Indoor Kites I love 12, even wondered if he would replace Matt at one point. But 11 is my doctor. It actually hurts when anyone criticizes him, which doesn’t really apply to the others. Not necessarily saying that’s a good thing, or even not weird, but it does solidify my preference for 11. Everyone is entitled to their own, and nobody gets to tell me otherwise. But I did learn to love Capaldi, and I can enjoy all of them. And not a crappy actor in the bunch. Shane, you’ll be okay. Been there, done that.
The Indoor Kites I think 11 will always be Shane’s favourite but I can see Capaldi becoming Eric’s favourite.
Just watched the full reaction, now onto early access, i don't like this one much, but great reaction guy's, u should ship handles with rusty, cyberman and dalek the doctor has nicked name, what did everyone else think of this ep??
I really don't like Danny Pink. He had no chemistry with Clara and was just forced into the show. They fight all the time and then suddenly she loves him more than anything and is willing to ruin her relationship with the doctor for Danny. I like Clara because her character and her chemistry with the doctor but it really felt like the writers didn't know what to do with her story.
Thank you for saying the doctor almost seemed "damaged". My initial reaction to 12 was that he felt "broken". I eventually came around to him, but the first few episodes were rough.