Basketball is a team aport again. The league is so talented from bench to starters! That superteams dont work out anymore. Having a good duo + great depth is a must
the "super team ea" was only a thing for two teams maimi and warriors. it worked for no one else. boston got one ring with that model and when kd went down wariors retooled. its the biggest misconcpetion that thisbuild has ever worked for many teams.
I would even go further.. the reason that for example the 2008 Celtics, LeBron era Heat or KD era Warriors were successful, is exactly BECAUSE they also worked as functioning teams.. with not only the stars but the entire rotation coming together to form a cohesive whole.. that's the beauty of team sports.. even if your opponents are more talented/skilled individually, you can still be the better TEAM.. in fact, you MUST (try) to be.. otherwise you'd have no chance of winning..
@@Eniggma39 Like 150M for 3 players that don't defend? The Beal trade made no sense, 50M and can't be traded? They cant even regroup after this yr. All right there in the vid.
@@letmesleepinpeace7052 it's hard to get great defenders who can also play solid in a systematic offense like the wolves, its even harder to get those defenders to communicate and balance with eachother on defense the way that the wolves do
Yeah we'd be so much better off with Sarver who sold 1st round draft picks for cash considerations lmao. James Jones drafted Jalen Smith over Tyrese Halliburton only to trade him that same season to the Pacers for Torrey Craig who we ended up trading this last off-season 🤣
@@notmytruthTHEtruthso are you really gonna pretend like James Iones didn’t run the show from 2019? We can clearly see that since he’s been the GM the team has significantly improved. It’s night and day. As far as Halliburton why do you make it seem like every other GM doesn’t also swing and miss? ❤don’t think you can find a GM that hasn’t missed out on a player so quit acting like there’s some GM that’s an oracle that sees every players future. Haliburton was the 12th pick meaning 11 other teams & GM’s also passed on him. Warriors Hornets Bulls Cavs Hawks Pistons Knicks Wizards Spurs The only team that made a better pick was Minnesota and they had the #1 pick and clearly picked the right player so are you also gonna slander Leon Rose, Brian Wright & Bob Myers for passing on Haliburton? Use your brain man😂
Idk what people expected. You can’t win championships let alone go to the finals without a point guard with terrible and aging defenders to boot. Book and Beal have never played point in their careers, neither has KD. The T Wolves on the other hand have great role players, defenders with Mike Conley as the definitive Point Guard. Idk why people thought this team could beat Denver let alone Minnesota
*That's what i'm saying!* Even youtubers like Funky were so sure of the Sun's favouritism, which is just absurd. It goes to show they don't know nearly half as much ball as they want to make believe.
TBF, as a Wolves fan since the beginning, we sucked against the Suns the entire regular season. Between questionable rotations, KAT being out, etc. we never proved we could beat Phoenix. The last game against them that came on the final day of the regular season was a bit of a misnomer though. The Wolves coaching staff didn't try anything new or weird since we figured we're matching up with Phoenix in round one.
I agree with your point, a Mike Conley was one of the main advantages the Wolves had. Using let alone wrong, though. They couldn't beat Minnesota, let alone Denver (defending champs)
There's a very good chance the Suns blow this whole team up and the only remaining player is Beal due to his bad contract. Bro might have left his situation in Washington to end up in the exact same, or potentially even WORSE scenario.
Yeah, honestly I think the best thing the Suns can do at this point is to try and move Durant and Booker for as many picks as they can get and go into full rebuild mode with Beal as the veteran to help mentor young players.
You kept saying "what did people expect", but the Suns sweeping the Wolves in the regular season meant most people actually had the Suns favored in the series lmao.
Suns need a playmaking point guard that has playoff experience, someone like cp3..and a center that can secure defensive rebound and sometimes even offensive rebound like an andre ayton..
@@bluedog424 PG, center, good 3 and D wing and something of the bench would be helpfull also...man this team needs a lot. Suns only have three 50M scorers (playing no defence) and that´s it. And they need better coach probably also.
Remember when Mavs announcer Brian Demeris slammed Harden for his questionable career decisions and being such a stinky egg for the teams he transfers to? I feel Durant should hear a breakdown like this as well XD
Suns fan here I would agree with most of your points here but you failed to mentioned Vogel. His hiring was a death sentence and that was before the season started. I saw the painting on the wall before the season started, it is what it is I'm happy for the twolves I hope they win it all. Phx will be back next year with a different roster hopefully.
I feel like the league is starting to go away from the "Big three" style of play and are now beginning to focus more on depth. It used to be your big three carried the entire game, but now it seems that the top teams in the playoffs are absolutely well rounded and have bench players that can hold the fort down if/when needed.
Championship teams has always been about depth in the nba. Yeah in recent years super teams like the 2017 warriors won. But they also had solid bench players as well during their run. Teams with just 2-3 superstars and no good role/bench players never work out
I'm convinced something happened/is happening behind the scenes in Phoenix that hasn't hit the public yet, the players do not care whatsoever about the games.
You can't trade your number one pick two years in a row due to the stepien rule, so the Suns do have first round picks every other year. They're actually pick swaps but they do have pics.
Mat Ishiba came in like a casual who just happens to have billions. Tried to play 2k and destroyed the team. We may very well become the Wizards west with just Beal.
@@shermanngjazz cause Sarver made all the same mistakes and then finally learned to step back so he Hired a former player as GM and let him handle it. Then Ishiba came in and started making decisions I know James Jones wouldn't have made if his word was law like it was under Sarver
I’m soooo glad that the idea of having a Super Team to win a chip in the NBA is dead. Can’t wait till LeBron retires because he was the Mastermind behind this crap and it started to hurt the NBA
Just to add to my previous comment, if the nets would have ridden kyrie out, supported him and kept the big 3 getting rid of Simmons only, probably they would have gone deep in the playoffs too, kyrie is balling, KD is and harden too, the thing is that injuries and external facts always affect the results
I agree on your main points....the Suns roster, as constructed, is not very good. And there's nothing they can really do because they're in salary cap hell and have basically no tradable draft assets. But it's also worth noting that a lot of these other teams in the west, because they're so young, are gonna be a lot better next year. Even if Minnesota or OKC did nothing in the off-season and just returned the exact same roster, they're gonna be way better just because they're so young. Mavs have some good young guys that are only gonna get better. And don't even start to think about where the Spurs are heading. But Phoenix....? This is as good as they're gonna be. This was supposed to be the year. Honestly, i would blow this team up. Get whatever draft capital you can for Booker and Durant and start over now.... either you're gonna suck for the next two or three years....or you're gonna suck for the next decade. Might as well cut your losses....
Pheonix biggest issue rotation wise is that they don't have a point guard, and it can't change if they have both Booker and Beal. Beal has no trade clause and his value on the market is way lower. As such, they must trade Booker for pieces that are better fit for Beal and Durant. It sucks, because Booker is the face of the franchise, but it is really the only way forward.
Really hoping that some of these recent cautionary tales puts an end to these "super teams." I much prefer watching teams like the Nuggets, Timberwolves, Thunder, etc., teams that were built organically. I preferred the Suns team that got embarrassed by Luka; they won 60+ and were more fun to watch. I'm over the super team era. I like the spontaneous teams like the 2011 Mavs, the ones that come out of nowhere and get the chemistry just right
i don't think he's overrated, to me he's more of an underachiever. the talent is there but he doesn't have the superstar gene to takeover during the playoffs and he nonchalantly dismisses the low points in his career.
Yeah hes not overrated. Hes freakin KD for a reason. But the roster is built terribly and they arent a team. Theyre a group of has-beens with out of their prime superstars. That team was never gonna succeed.
The Suns are going to toil away fruitlessly for the next two years until KD becomes a Free Agent and leaves/retires. It would make absolutely no sense for 38 year old Kevin Durant to re-sign or extend with that team unless there appear to literally be no other options (which means his ability will have declined) or he's just settling for the money (which would mean an extension) as they seemingly have no way to improve unless some of their bench/role players dramatically step up.
I get why people say the trade for Beal was bad. But the team really had limited assets to improve after trading for Durant Nobody wanted CP3 contract either and if Suns wanted to upgrade they had to take on another bad contract. Who were the Suns realistically going to trade CP3 and some 2nds for? Unfortunately Beal had to be traded for out of necessity. Im sure the Suns would have preferred different options but this what the best scenario available to upgrade from CP3. The Wizards had new owners and were clamoring to get of Beal. Thats why this ended up being Beal, Paul, and Poole getting traded. Its all bad contracts being traded.
This is what happens when an owner is impatient with the results of a team that seems like it’s underperforming but willing to spend money. At least they were trying to win, even if they were the wrong moves.
Small note: you should’ve mentioned what the Salary Cap is. Because I *think* it’s $190M, which means $150M is A LOT. But for some reason in my head I was thinking $290M which makes $150M a lot less.
Booker is just so overrated and I dont mean it any disrespectful way he's the epitome of the word overrated, this brother goes missing when it matters the most on top of that he speaks off court a lot of bs while backing any of it when he is on the court, so glad Edward's humbled him just like Luka and Giannis did.
If the current suns team actually played fundamental basketball and took care of the ball (low turnover) then they might have finished higher in the western conference standings. I’ve been in the trade booker wagon myself but I think this team is still talented enough to beat anyone. The problem is that they don’t seem to care at all.
I kind of hate that everyone is acting like this was the expected result after most of the basketball community chose the Suns to win the series. Folks want to act like the Suns actually sucked the whole time when, in reality, this is a healthy roster that was on a heater to end the regular season. The Timberwolves have just outplayed them. The emphasis shouldn’t be on the Suns sucking, it should be on the Wolves finding ways to exploit and beat them.
It went wrong when they passed on Luka Doncic with the # 1 pick for D'Andre Ayton thinking he couldn't play with Booker the way Kyrie is now. DUMBEST move since Portland passed on Jordan. You take the BEST player available in basketball
Is not winning the play-offs the biggest end all of this. There are plenty of teams each year that will not win the play-offs, or even be in the playoffs. But, ultimate failure pre-destined, fans will still get to see top players on the court regularly. I mean, that's better than Wizards fans have it.
If they want to have a team they need to trade at least one of the 3 and get a good return. No body will trade for Beal (there is no way) so he is staying. If they trade KD they might get good return, he es KD but he is 36 now a makes 50MM a year but the Suns remain with the overlapping talents of Booker and Beal. If they trade Booker they will get a better return but are now stuck with the 36 year old KD and a depressed fan base.
It’s estimated next year the Phoenix Suns payroll is going to be out about $206 million Which means they’re going to be liable for a luxury tax payment of around $105 million to the NBA. They have screwed their franchise so much. They may have really good players, but they have no depth behind them.
if I may.. the Suns' problem was obvious from the start.. they are/have no team.. it's as simple as that.. therefore, and that may be controversial, giving away CP3 was a mistake of comical proportions.. the lack of a playmaking PG, or any PG for that matter, to tie the individual pieces together was striking over the course of the entire season.. you may not like him.. but it can't be denied that with CP3 the Suns made the Finals.. without him they get swept in the 1st round.. by the Timberwolves.. who btw are a TEAM..
Dont blame the gm or owner for this. KD and Booker are just not the guys everyone wants them to be. Beal was a stat padder on a shit team and is not it either
Superteams work when everyone is friends. Miami worked because bron wade and bosh were all buddies and got along. KD was coo with Draymond Steph and Klay for a few years. No, bron and AD not a superteam ... Need at least 3 stars . Most of these other superteams teamates don't rly like each other it's not really their choice . They all got traded not FA signings . BKN harden was traded not FA . Team flopped . Same thing in PHX . Teams were dumb and gave up way too many draft picks and absorbed horrible contracts. Whoops !
Sometimes the simplest answers are the correct ones. This starting five Bradley beal, Grayson allen, Devin booker, Kevin durant, and nurkic is one of if not the very best starting 5 in the NBA.. the reason they were so stagnant and playing mostly one-on-one ball towards the end of the season is due to the horrific coaching of one Frank Vogel ...you don't have a team with a starting five like that look so stagnant and average unless you're coaching style is horrible for that starting five.. Mike budenholzer will turn this team into what everyone expected. They are way too good to be this damn average.. I fully expect them to finish in the top three in the west and make it to at least the Western conference Finals.. and wouldn't be surprised if they made it all the way to the finals
Shenanigans like this only make KD's two Warriors rings even more invalid. Man is a great player, but this and the fiasco that was Brooklyn showed he's not much of a leader.
I wouldn't say that. He came really close in beating a healthy Bucks team by himself to advanceto the finals. If he wouldn't of stepped on the 3pt line. Harden was playing on ine leg in that series.
I think KD’s Brooklyn was a success. He just kept getting cursed. KD Achilles injury. KD infamous shoes too big. Kyrie not playing vaccine. Joe Harris and James harden being frauds. Kyrie leaving when they were on a 12 game winning streak. KD just keeps getting screwed.
How is this series the least surprising? This is easily most surprising to me. They dominated the wolves during the season! Ant is 1-11 against booker before this series started!
Let's see. A Basketball TEAM. A Basketball team. A team. 5 guys on the floor at all times. A Basketball team consists of 5 players, correct? And a bench? What is a bench? Ohhh, that's OTHER players that are on the TEAM. And these other players get on the court and play the game when one or more of the starting five players need a quick break/rest? The Phoenix Suns are not a Basketball Team. It's 3 players. No bench. No depth. NOTHING!!!!
The Suns still won’t 49 games in the Western Conference with Beal and Booker missing lots of games. Vogel is a terrible coach. New coach, move Beal to the bench, get a real point guard and try again. No reason to panic and blow it up yet. Suns don’t benefit from being bad until like 2030 as far as drafting players goes so a 1st round exit is better than bottom feeding.
Ishbia tried to buy a championship. Rarely a proven formula. 1st time owner, like a kid in a candy store. Too bad for the fans that will live with this for years. Playoffs 2038.
Destroyed a balanced team and the culture, send out great pg and coach like trash. Kick out all good role players…build a team only with money and think it works.
You didnt even talk about the 2nd apron penalties that are coming. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to improve the team without trading Booker or Durant.
The Phoenix Suns are a lot like All Elite Wrestling: the billionaire owner just wanted to blow lots of money on people that don't move the needle in any meaningful way.
Basketball is a team aport again. The league is so talented from bench to starters! That superteams dont work out anymore. Having a good duo + great depth is a must
Yup. Clippers - toast. Lakers…toast. Suns…toast. Minny, OKC and Denver are the kings.
the "super team ea" was only a thing for two teams maimi and warriors. it worked for no one else. boston got one ring with that model and when kd went down wariors retooled. its the biggest misconcpetion that thisbuild has ever worked for many teams.
I would even go further..
the reason that for example the 2008 Celtics, LeBron era Heat or KD era Warriors were successful, is exactly BECAUSE they also worked as functioning teams.. with not only the stars but the entire rotation coming together to form a cohesive whole..
that's the beauty of team sports..
even if your opponents are more talented/skilled individually, you can still be the better TEAM.. in fact, you MUST (try) to be.. otherwise you'd have no chance of winning..
@@CorePathway Nah the Pistons will walk all over them next season 😂😂
@@ubadman1warriors weren't a superteam. 3/4 of the key players were drafted. Durant just the cherry on top
The phoenix suns are built like they were put together by a billionaire that dont know basketball
Like??
@@Eniggma39 Like 150M for 3 players that don't defend? The Beal trade made no sense, 50M and can't be traded? They cant even regroup after this yr. All right there in the vid.
A billionaire who hangs out with Isiah Thomas too....
well i never considered beal a superstar really, i really don't understand what's the fuss with him
Or one that plays a whole lot of 2k
Book: nobody can guard us
The t-wolves: bet 😂
Jaden McDaniels turning into Hakeem Olajuwon when guarding them
Why don't every team just have 3 elite perimeter defenders?! Are they stupid??
@@letmesleepinpeace7052 it's hard to get great defenders who can also play solid in a systematic offense like the wolves, its even harder to get those defenders to communicate and balance with eachother on defense the way that the wolves do
Wolves offense is still bad but the denfese is so good that it makes up for it. @@letmesleepinpeace7052
Didn't Booker compare himself to Kobe a couple of years ago? 😅
Anyone blaming James jones is a clown too btw. He didn’t want the kd trade and refused to give up that package until the new owner pushed it thru
Oh, so Matt Ishbia is an even bigger moron than I thought.
Yeah we'd be so much better off with Sarver who sold 1st round draft picks for cash considerations lmao. James Jones drafted Jalen Smith over Tyrese Halliburton only to trade him that same season to the Pacers for Torrey Craig who we ended up trading this last off-season 🤣
@@notmytruthTHEtruth I never said that sir I said that you cant blame james jones genius
@@pimpnamedslickback7780don’t respond to brain dead people that lack the ability to read and comprehend😂…
@@notmytruthTHEtruthso are you really gonna pretend like James Iones didn’t run the show from 2019? We can clearly see that since he’s been the GM the team has significantly improved. It’s night and day. As far as Halliburton why do you make it seem like every other GM doesn’t also swing and miss? ❤don’t think you can find a GM that hasn’t missed out on a player so quit acting like there’s some GM that’s an oracle that sees every players future. Haliburton was the 12th pick meaning 11 other teams & GM’s also passed on him.
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The only team that made a better pick was Minnesota and they had the #1 pick and clearly picked the right player so are you also gonna slander Leon Rose, Brian Wright & Bob Myers for passing on Haliburton? Use your brain man😂
They definitely should’ve went out and got 3 and D role players and solid 1 instead of Beal. Damn
collin sexton > bradley beal
Idk what people expected. You can’t win championships let alone go to the finals without a point guard with terrible and aging defenders to boot. Book and Beal have never played point in their careers, neither has KD. The T Wolves on the other hand have great role players, defenders with Mike Conley as the definitive Point Guard. Idk why people thought this team could beat Denver let alone Minnesota
*That's what i'm saying!* Even youtubers like Funky were so sure of the Sun's favouritism, which is just absurd. It goes to show they don't know nearly half as much ball as they want to make believe.
TBF, as a Wolves fan since the beginning, we sucked against the Suns the entire regular season. Between questionable rotations, KAT being out, etc. we never proved we could beat Phoenix. The last game against them that came on the final day of the regular season was a bit of a misnomer though. The Wolves coaching staff didn't try anything new or weird since we figured we're matching up with Phoenix in round one.
Suns are nothing without cp3
I agree with your point, a Mike Conley was one of the main advantages the Wolves had. Using let alone wrong, though. They couldn't beat Minnesota, let alone Denver (defending champs)
There's a very good chance the Suns blow this whole team up and the only remaining player is Beal due to his bad contract. Bro might have left his situation in Washington to end up in the exact same, or potentially even WORSE scenario.
Yeah, honestly I think the best thing the Suns can do at this point is to try and move Durant and Booker for as many picks as they can get and go into full rebuild mode with Beal as the veteran to help mentor young players.
As a wizards fan I found this scenario hilarious
@@MistyKathrinefacts this team as constructed is not winning anything
He is mid tier player who is getting 50mill check he aint loosing shiiit
Durant’s ego really robbed him out of more rings he could have had with GSW🤦🏾♀️ He’s been floundering ever since trying to create him own super team.
You kept saying "what did people expect", but the Suns sweeping the Wolves in the regular season meant most people actually had the Suns favored in the series lmao.
If only the league would award the "Luxury Tax Champion" the Suns could finally get a trophy.
Suns need a playmaking point guard that has playoff experience, someone like cp3..and a center that can secure defensive rebound and sometimes even offensive rebound like an andre ayton..
Yup....and maybe a good, athletic, 3 and d type of wing..... someone like Mikal Bridges....
@@bluedog424 PG, center, good 3 and D wing and something of the bench would be helpfull also...man this team needs a lot. Suns only have three 50M scorers (playing no defence) and that´s it. And they need better coach probably also.
ayton wanted out of phx
@@ieverhartbc he ain fw coach monty or dbook .
Cp3 can’t fill that role…he’s always INJURED….
Remember when Mavs announcer Brian Demeris slammed Harden for his questionable career decisions and being such a stinky egg for the teams he transfers to? I feel Durant should hear a breakdown like this as well XD
Suns fan here I would agree with most of your points here but you failed to mentioned Vogel. His hiring was a death sentence and that was before the season started. I saw the painting on the wall before the season started, it is what it is I'm happy for the twolves I hope they win it all. Phx will be back next year with a different roster hopefully.
I love that this season has kind of been the passing of the torch year for the league.
KD continues to be a basketball curse, along with harden and Westbrook.
Stupidest roster in sports history
I feel like the league is starting to go away from the "Big three" style of play and are now beginning to focus more on depth. It used to be your big three carried the entire game, but now it seems that the top teams in the playoffs are absolutely well rounded and have bench players that can hold the fort down if/when needed.
Championship teams has always been about depth in the nba. Yeah in recent years super teams like the 2017 warriors won. But they also had solid bench players as well during their run. Teams with just 2-3 superstars and no good role/bench players never work out
@@maxwelltruesdalejr855Nuggets had an only mediocre bench but the starting lineup was crazy.
I'm convinced something happened/is happening behind the scenes in Phoenix that hasn't hit the public yet, the players do not care whatsoever about the games.
You can't trade your number one pick two years in a row due to the stepien rule, so the Suns do have first round picks every other year. They're actually pick swaps but they do have pics.
The Pheonix Suns is a "glass canon with glass ankles in a pundle"
This is the number one reason why ownership should never meddle with the front office!
I can't wait for suns another apology letter LMAO
Mat Ishiba came in like a casual who just happens to have billions. Tried to play 2k and destroyed the team. We may very well become the Wizards west with just Beal.
Suns look more competent under Sarver
@@shermanngjazz cause Sarver made all the same mistakes and then finally learned to step back so he Hired a former player as GM and let him handle it. Then Ishiba came in and started making decisions I know James Jones wouldn't have made if his word was law like it was under Sarver
This is equivalent to putting all your liquidity into NFTs and Crypto
KD…come home to the bay 😂😂
Booker never learned, don't say anything unless you can back it up
same with KD
Book said no one can guard them but forgot to realize they cant guard anyone as well.
I’m soooo glad that the idea of having a Super Team to win a chip in the NBA is dead. Can’t wait till LeBron retires because he was the Mastermind behind this crap and it started to hurt the NBA
Just to add to my previous comment, if the nets would have ridden kyrie out, supported him and kept the big 3 getting rid of Simmons only, probably they would have gone deep in the playoffs too, kyrie is balling, KD is and harden too, the thing is that injuries and external facts always affect the results
I agree on your main points....the Suns roster, as constructed, is not very good. And there's nothing they can really do because they're in salary cap hell and have basically no tradable draft assets.
But it's also worth noting that a lot of these other teams in the west, because they're so young, are gonna be a lot better next year. Even if Minnesota or OKC did nothing in the off-season and just returned the exact same roster, they're gonna be way better just because they're so young. Mavs have some good young guys that are only gonna get better. And don't even start to think about where the Spurs are heading.
But Phoenix....? This is as good as they're gonna be. This was supposed to be the year. Honestly, i would blow this team up. Get whatever draft capital you can for Booker and Durant and start over now.... either you're gonna suck for the next two or three years....or you're gonna suck for the next decade. Might as well cut your losses....
Their only jipe is that Beal waves his no trade clause and a team actually wants him which I doubt. Otherwise blow it up.
Wolves in 4
Wow this was fun. Two words. Naz Reid
Pheonix biggest issue rotation wise is that they don't have a point guard, and it can't change if they have both Booker and Beal. Beal has no trade clause and his value on the market is way lower. As such, they must trade Booker for pieces that are better fit for Beal and Durant. It sucks, because Booker is the face of the franchise, but it is really the only way forward.
Really hoping that some of these recent cautionary tales puts an end to these "super teams." I much prefer watching teams like the Nuggets, Timberwolves, Thunder, etc., teams that were built organically. I preferred the Suns team that got embarrassed by Luka; they won 60+ and were more fun to watch. I'm over the super team era. I like the spontaneous teams like the 2011 Mavs, the ones that come out of nowhere and get the chemistry just right
I’ve been saying kd is overrated and superteams are done for in the nba
i don't think he's overrated, to me he's more of an underachiever. the talent is there but he doesn't have the superstar gene to takeover during the playoffs and he nonchalantly dismisses the low points in his career.
@@galexcabrera3449 i couldn’t have said it better myself
It’s not that kd is overrated this team is horribly constructed and this owner does not know how to build a team
Yeah hes not overrated. Hes freakin KD for a reason. But the roster is built terribly and they arent a team. Theyre a group of has-beens with out of their prime superstars. That team was never gonna succeed.
@@alexyan4112 100% and the fact that Ishbia is so high on Bradley Beal really makes it a head scratcher
This isn’t 2k where you can just assemble super teams and win a chip, it’s real life 😂
The Suns are going to toil away fruitlessly for the next two years until KD becomes a Free Agent and leaves/retires. It would make absolutely no sense for 38 year old Kevin Durant to re-sign or extend with that team unless there appear to literally be no other options (which means his ability will have declined) or he's just settling for the money (which would mean an extension) as they seemingly have no way to improve unless some of their bench/role players dramatically step up.
I get why people say the trade for Beal was bad. But the team really had limited assets to improve after trading for Durant Nobody wanted CP3 contract either and if Suns wanted to upgrade they had to take on another bad contract. Who were the Suns realistically going to trade CP3 and some 2nds for? Unfortunately Beal had to be traded for out of necessity. Im sure the Suns would have preferred different options but this what the best scenario available to upgrade from CP3. The Wizards had new owners and were clamoring to get of Beal. Thats why this ended up being Beal, Paul, and Poole getting traded. Its all bad contracts being traded.
The curse is real in Phoenix. It’s tough being a fan man. Even when we get an owner that’s eager to win, he’s too ignorant and digs us in a hole lmao.
these managers honestly manage like I do in 2k.
Hell, why not have Lebron, Jordan, Kd, Garnet and Curry on the same team?
This is what happens when an owner is impatient with the results of a team that seems like it’s underperforming but willing to spend money. At least they were trying to win, even if they were the wrong moves.
Just dropping this reminder that Booker has never won a playoff series against a healthy team.
I say the same thing. He is a good player just not a great player.
Small note: you should’ve mentioned what the Salary Cap is. Because I *think* it’s $190M, which means $150M is A LOT. But for some reason in my head I was thinking $290M which makes $150M a lot less.
When Devin choker said. "How teams gonna guard us?"
Teams Responded: "We don't need to guard you 😅"
People seriously thought this team would beat the wolves 😂
Booker is just so overrated and I dont mean it any disrespectful way he's the epitome of the word overrated, this brother goes missing when it matters the most on top of that he speaks off court a lot of bs while backing any of it when he is on the court, so glad Edward's humbled him just like Luka and Giannis did.
If the current suns team actually played fundamental basketball and took care of the ball (low turnover) then they might have finished higher in the western conference standings. I’ve been in the trade booker wagon myself but I think this team is still talented enough to beat anyone. The problem is that they don’t seem to care at all.
Those Booker stats vs Denver in games 3 and 4 were nuts. If he averages his normal, they get swept.
Seriously, that's why they got blown out in game 5s and 6 when they cooled off
Everybody knew that this team wouldn’t work when I was put together. Nobody thought Durant, Booker, and Beal would compete for a title
It was obvious!
I kind of hate that everyone is acting like this was the expected result after most of the basketball community chose the Suns to win the series. Folks want to act like the Suns actually sucked the whole time when, in reality, this is a healthy roster that was on a heater to end the regular season. The Timberwolves have just outplayed them.
The emphasis shouldn’t be on the Suns sucking, it should be on the Wolves finding ways to exploit and beat them.
When you get three players that play good but instead of players that help others play better
They didn’t do nothing wrong T Wolves are just better team over all
It went wrong when they passed on Luka Doncic with the # 1 pick for D'Andre Ayton thinking he couldn't play with Booker the way Kyrie is now. DUMBEST move since Portland passed on Jordan. You take the BEST player available in basketball
I think this is exactly what everyone expected.
And of course the owner who thinks he’s playing 2K says “Most teams would want to trade places with us.” Absolutely delusional.
Now let's get this same video for The Lakers.
Is not winning the play-offs the biggest end all of this. There are plenty of teams each year that will not win the play-offs, or even be in the playoffs. But, ultimate failure pre-destined, fans will still get to see top players on the court regularly. I mean, that's better than Wizards fans have it.
why would 17 guys getting 30 million together
play hard for three guys getting 50 millions each
they are not dumb
Money, money, money… Not a single sports aspect, just money, money, money…
Crap!
doubleDworth the goat
If they want to have a team they need to trade at least one of the 3 and get a good return. No body will trade for Beal (there is no way) so he is staying. If they trade KD they might get good return, he es KD but he is 36 now a makes 50MM a year but the Suns remain with the overlapping talents of Booker and Beal. If they trade Booker they will get a better return but are now stuck with the 36 year old KD and a depressed fan base.
Get that coach out of here! Give IT the ball sit Beal ass down! How don't you have Bol spreading the floor with KD?🤦🏾♂️
I would've flipped it on him: respectfully I don't know how you're gna guard teams 😭
Sounds like Ja “we fine in the west” 😂😂😂
It’s estimated next year the Phoenix Suns payroll is going to be out about $206 million
Which means they’re going to be liable for a luxury tax payment of around $105 million to the NBA. They have screwed their franchise so much.
They may have really good players, but they have no depth behind them.
Only getting worse from here these young team are no joke
if I may..
the Suns' problem was obvious from the start.. they are/have no team.. it's as simple as that..
therefore, and that may be controversial, giving away CP3 was a mistake of comical proportions.. the lack of a playmaking PG, or any PG for that matter, to tie the individual pieces together was striking over the course of the entire season..
you may not like him.. but it can't be denied that with CP3 the Suns made the Finals.. without him they get swept in the 1st round..
by the Timberwolves.. who btw are a TEAM..
Dont blame the gm or owner for this. KD and Booker are just not the guys everyone wants them to be. Beal was a stat padder on a shit team and is not it either
KD: offense
Green: Defense
Here after the Suns got swept
BRADLY FRAUDS FAULT
If Suns can get a great coach, they can be a contender. Also, Suns bench is fine. Coach doesn’t ever use them.
Superteams work when everyone is friends. Miami worked because bron wade and bosh were all buddies and got along. KD was coo with Draymond Steph and Klay for a few years. No, bron and AD not a superteam ... Need at least 3 stars . Most of these other superteams teamates don't rly like each other it's not really their choice . They all got traded not FA signings . BKN harden was traded not FA . Team flopped . Same thing in PHX . Teams were dumb and gave up way too many draft picks and absorbed horrible contracts. Whoops !
Sometimes the simplest answers are the correct ones. This starting five Bradley beal, Grayson allen, Devin booker, Kevin durant, and nurkic is one of if not the very best starting 5 in the NBA.. the reason they were so stagnant and playing mostly one-on-one ball towards the end of the season is due to the horrific coaching of one Frank Vogel ...you don't have a team with a starting five like that look so stagnant and average unless you're coaching style is horrible for that starting five.. Mike budenholzer will turn this team into what everyone expected. They are way too good to be this damn average.. I fully expect them to finish in the top three in the west and make it to at least the Western conference Finals.. and wouldn't be surprised if they made it all the way to the finals
Shenanigans like this only make KD's two Warriors rings even more invalid. Man is a great player, but this and the fiasco that was Brooklyn showed he's not much of a leader.
I wouldn't say that. He came really close in beating a healthy Bucks team by himself to advanceto the finals. If he wouldn't of stepped on the 3pt line. Harden was playing on ine leg in that series.
I think KD’s Brooklyn was a success. He just kept getting cursed. KD Achilles injury. KD infamous shoes too big. Kyrie not playing vaccine. Joe Harris and James harden being frauds. Kyrie leaving when they were on a 12 game winning streak. KD just keeps getting screwed.
How is this series the least surprising? This is easily most surprising to me. They dominated the wolves during the season! Ant is 1-11 against booker before this series started!
Luka really destroyed their franchise they need another apology letter 😂
Let's see. A Basketball TEAM. A Basketball team. A team. 5 guys on the floor at all times. A Basketball team consists of 5 players, correct? And a bench? What is a bench? Ohhh, that's OTHER players that are on the TEAM. And these other players get on the court and play the game when one or more of the starting five players need a quick break/rest? The Phoenix Suns are not a Basketball Team. It's 3 players. No bench. No depth. NOTHING!!!!
The Suns still won’t 49 games in the Western Conference with Beal and Booker missing lots of games. Vogel is a terrible coach. New coach, move Beal to the bench, get a real point guard and try again. No reason to panic and blow it up yet. Suns don’t benefit from being bad until like 2030 as far as drafting players goes so a 1st round exit is better than bottom feeding.
I said at the beginning of the NBA season that the Suns needed defense, not more offense
When it comes to legalized bank robbing, I'm the best
-Bradley Beal
Woah I forgot they beat Denver twice last playoffs. They really regressed sheesh
Ishbia tried to buy a championship. Rarely a proven formula. 1st time owner, like a kid in a candy store. Too bad for the fans that will live with this for years. Playoffs 2038.
Dude makes Sarver look good.
Wizards should have never given Beal that contract😂. Just let him walk…
Destroyed a balanced team and the culture, send out great pg and coach like trash. Kick out all good role players…build a team only with money and think it works.
KD was cursed since he joined warriors, he expect easy ring if he a joins super team but he get swept maybe not once (with the nets) maybe twice now
Beal played so bad in this series I had to make sure it was the same dude that was traded from Washington.
If anyone deserves to be in this situation, it's Booker & KD.
Something is wrong with Booker. He didn’t perform well before season ends.
regarding kd. if you arent the warriors with steph dray and klay no team will win the chip with kd
CP3 will be perfect on this team. Too much 1v1 ball. They need a PG to get them the ball
Who in the suns organisation thought Beale is worth that money? He should be fired
Funny thing is, this team is unstoppable in 2k24.
I would not trade Beal I would throw him out the window.
Nobody will trade for him so throwing him out the window it is.
Beal has a no trade clause so they are stuck with him lol
You didnt even talk about the 2nd apron penalties that are coming. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to improve the team without trading Booker or Durant.
Superteams are failing, and I love to see it. Again, KD is cursed like it never fails.
No they not it just these fools don't know how to assemble a super team. Common sense you don't pair up 2 shooting guards.
@@theetruth8626Exactly.
The Phoenix Suns are a lot like All Elite Wrestling: the billionaire owner just wanted to blow lots of money on people that don't move the needle in any meaningful way.
Sweep?
i wouldn’t call landry shamet bench depth, he’s was a shot chucking bum by the end of his tenure with the suns
They thought they would win shooting mid-range shot
KD left the warriors to prove himself, in doing so, he destroyed two teams(idk about the nets tho)