Astralis are in F+ for me, spending almost as much as falcons and failing to qualify for the major puts them in the same tier, especially if you consider the buyout paid for Stabbi. More comparable with falcons than BIG imo
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@@fVNzO I mean yeah if you want to be objective they clearly bring the most prize money for their salary. I think he was also trying to factor in the actual quality of these teams too and make a little more nuanced tier list.
@@googane7755 Thats not what I'm saying. The title is biggest check stealers. So the bigger of a paycheck stealer you are the higher the rank which means falcons should be S tier. The premise of the video doesn't make sense unless the title was the LEAST paycheck stealing teams. Which *then* makes mongolz S tier.
whats funny is that falcons as org do manage to get/snatch some talent in other esport/division and like they are doing fine, but this cs division is just a joke man while looking at other division (dota, ML, Tekken or even RL) they bring result while this cs team their last relevant result was semis on katowice early this year (correct me if im wrong)
literally the game and teams are so ruined, and scrambled up (although i initially loved that during the earlier off season we had, not this times off season). like only mongolz and eternal fire are really interesting to watch for me at the moment. ngl also how is this worthwhile, even if you take the biggest winner here. if they earn 200k together per month, and their winnings als 600k. that never works on a long run. you might think big lost less than falcons, but falcons have different type of money givers than big has options and savings.
Winnings go to the players for the most part, they are just one more metric for the success of the team over the season. Money comes from sponsor, merch and investment so vitality is most probably making more money than spirit but we don't have these figures so we can't know if they're profitable
there is an interview where ropz said he was being paid more in mouz than in faze. Either he lied, this video lied (expected from maui really) or its outdated info from ropz
When pros say pay cut, they can mean $1,000. It's not uncommon. I've talked to so many people with figures that just say stuff like to save face then it's practically irrelevant.
Feel like these salaries are pulled straight out of someone's ass. It was widely reported Ropz and then Frozen took pay cuts to go from Mouz to Faze. Reddit detectives (not taking it as gospel, but I'm not doing it myself) for Ropz accounts for last ear (and the Mercedes source) had him at ~20k a month salary in Faze. So would mean Mouz are now paying their players less than they did a few years ago (possible) and Faze are paying Karrigan/Rain/Broky over double what they pay Ropz/Frozen, towards 50k a month (not a chance)
You didn't even read the reddit post then lmfao. "Based on his income 750 504 euros, we can deduct 250k as the prize money and it would mean his yearly salary in Faze is 500k /41,500 a month."
i know you're german by that username but what are you even talking about dude, heroic is rank 10 in the world and both them and ENCE made the major and they have more prizemoney earned in the last season. Not even takeing into consideration Ence bascally made the roster 24 hours before the RMR roster lock.
Bro this makes no sense. You literally have math staring you in the face and yet still put up a completely subjective ranking. BIG being lower than Furia and VP is insane if you compare their spending to their prize money, you just leave out s1mple's salary even though that directly effects the rest of the NA'VI, and if you look at the spending of G2 versus Vitality, G2 not only won more but they also had an S tier trophy, regardless of what HLTV ranks them they should not be in the same tier as Vitality, they were monetarily more successful. I liked the idea behind the video but why include the stats if your criteria isn't going to stay consistent?
@@Mauisnake like how you changed the original comment, but you didn't grade them on sticker money and didn't feature them in the chart. My paragraph is pointing out that you were completely subjective, which if you are going to arbitrarily count sticker money, I guess that fits.
@@nicholasanderson9072 This chart isnt completely subjective. Sticker money is around 500k if not more for a team. so compare vp's $634k in prize money compared to big's $91k and you can instantly see that vp did better economically. I do agree that there is some subjectiveness in there since you could just say sticker money is x amount and just do a division or subtraction to judge the teams economically. This would make for a 10 second video though. Also thropies are in my mind not anything to judge a team on economically since winning a thropy itself does not give an economical advantage. look at faze and g2 both 1 thropy but 240k difference in price money.
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the mongolz give me 2014 League team vibes; just 5 dudes playing great as a team and sacrificing for the bigger picture
crazy how they are so young but are in with a decent chance to beat G2 in a b03. Gonna be an awesome game I can't wait.
Sharing a bed goes crazy, Mongolz move up big in my book
That way its easier for them to tuck their homies in
@@Flashv28 Homiesexuals
Maybe its what every team should do ...
@@rml4474 all fun and games until you get paired with 2020 boombl4
players moving up imo, but org is moving down wtf
Biggest paycheck stealer - kye
(He is getting paid money, which is too much, no matter the amount)
damn...
a true hater... i love it
Fallen but okay
@@Noseflap-watching would be true but fallen knows how to jiggle peek
Maui you are the official voice of my morning run. I'm saving this one for tomorrow morning and am pumped.
Run faster.
Run slower.
Run faster
Just one more video before bed
Not even 5 min in and I want Mongolz to win every tournament from now until the end of time.
MATE those tierlists are insane, im loving it
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This is S tier content
best content to watch in cs is tier list, always funny, keep it up bro
9:45 shout out to floppy for leaking his team's salary lol
Maui you cant keep coming up with this content its too fire
So fun to watch! Btw those cokes in the Mongolz's fridge are not fake
Lol was just going to sleep and i see this title😂 i just have to watch it
Fire as fuck title and video lmao
Sharing the bed is diabolical
I know for a T1 team with the 5th largest prize money in CS is insane
Its asian culture 😢
@@johankaku Sharing beds with friends or family is pretty normal in asia but to share a bed with your coach? That's insane lmao
Normally i dont care much for these tierlists but this one i couldnt miss
another based maui video
Wake up honey, Maui dropped another tierlist
If we knew the money of the Champions Autograph capsule Navi would probably be S tier
I assume the estimated salary is for the players + coach?
maui u made me laugh just by seeing the thumbnail + title, props to u
pillow talking w your coach after prac seems huge mongolz S tier
Amazing content bro. Thanks, and keep it up!
Video machine. More videos than RedBox. Nice.
oh hell yeah
only way G2 will win anything this season is if they all start sharing beds
Dude I was like "what in ma grandma's hell are those beds" then I realized 2 people sleep there... Wtf 😂
Have you seen the 910 room? Just a dressing room?
He is a real life wizard bro /lil potter/
At this point I don't know if any Maui content is AI generated or not, but I'm here for it either way!
this is wild
uff... headline
Damn, i heavily dislike you but i gotta admit this is kind of a banger
This is so bad man , most teams spending so much just to break even esports is brutal at top
now this is REAL haterism
Holy shit bywoo makes $1m usd?
Also gotta put stewie in s tier 😤
he cant keep getting away with it bros
lmao The Mongolz lifestyle seems fun af ngl
Astralis are in F+ for me, spending almost as much as falcons and failing to qualify for the major puts them in the same tier, especially if you consider the buyout paid for Stabbi. More comparable with falcons than BIG imo
If you don't want this for your desk I feel like kassad on this one because the joke is, it was YOU TO's who were insane the whole time
I dont get the age point for -frozen +brollan; they're the same age and born only a month apart
Is the estimated salary per player or all members combined
4:02 Just some team building excercise
falcons symbol looks like moss ball
est. salary surely is for the whole team not for each player right?
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If mongolz are S tier wouldn't it be the LEAST paycheck stealing? Surely falcons are the biggest paycheck stealers, etc. Which would mean S tier.
@@fVNzO I mean yeah if you want to be objective they clearly bring the most prize money for their salary. I think he was also trying to factor in the actual quality of these teams too and make a little more nuanced tier list.
@@googane7755 Thats not what I'm saying. The title is biggest check stealers. So the bigger of a paycheck stealer you are the higher the rank which means falcons should be S tier. The premise of the video doesn't make sense unless the title was the LEAST paycheck stealing teams. Which *then* makes mongolz S tier.
He said at the end "if you want a check stealer tier list you just reverse it"
if magisk is really on 35k a month he's stealing a living
Mongolz reminds me of avangar
whats funny is that falcons as org do manage to get/snatch some talent in other esport/division
and like they are doing fine, but this cs division is just a joke man
while looking at other division (dota, ML, Tekken or even RL) they bring result
while this cs team their last relevant result was semis on katowice early this year (correct me if im wrong)
literally the game and teams are so ruined, and scrambled up (although i initially loved
that during the earlier off season we had, not this times off season). like only mongolz
and eternal fire are really interesting to watch for me at the moment. ngl
also how is this worthwhile, even if you take the biggest winner here. if they earn 200k
together per month, and their winnings als 600k. that never works on a long run. you might
think big lost less than falcons, but falcons have different type of money givers than big has
options and savings.
Winnings go to the players for the most part, they are just one more metric for the success of the team over the season. Money comes from sponsor, merch and investment so vitality is most probably making more money than spirit but we don't have these figures so we can't know if they're profitable
Furia cant pay more than 100k USD, in brazil, 1 dollar equals 5 brazilian reais, 100k is equal 500k, thats too much for a cs2 team here
what are you now? a master of whisperers? be bald then first
there is an interview where ropz said he was being paid more in mouz than in faze. Either he lied, this video lied (expected from maui really) or its outdated info from ropz
When pros say pay cut, they can mean $1,000. It's not uncommon. I've talked to so many people with figures that just say stuff like to save face then it's practically irrelevant.
no way spirit only was 100K
considering u got donk + sh1ro in ur team
donk is a rookie dude
U consider fking Dallas as an S tier. Whats Next, Liquid being relevant?
EF is spending double at least
Feel like these salaries are pulled straight out of someone's ass. It was widely reported Ropz and then Frozen took pay cuts to go from Mouz to Faze. Reddit detectives (not taking it as gospel, but I'm not doing it myself) for Ropz accounts for last ear (and the Mercedes source) had him at ~20k a month salary in Faze. So would mean Mouz are now paying their players less than they did a few years ago (possible) and Faze are paying Karrigan/Rain/Broky over double what they pay Ropz/Frozen, towards 50k a month (not a chance)
You didn't even read the reddit post then lmfao. "Based on his income 750 504 euros, we can deduct 250k as the prize money and it would mean his yearly salary in Faze is 500k /41,500 a month."
cheque* ⚰️
Heroic and Ence above BIG is criminal! either they are D tier or BIG is C tier...
i know you're german by that username but what are you even talking about dude, heroic is rank 10 in the world and both them and ENCE made the major and they have more prizemoney earned in the last season. Not even takeing into consideration Ence bascally made the roster 24 hours before the RMR roster lock.
falcons f mongols S easy
You wrong for dat, you play too much
Bro this makes no sense. You literally have math staring you in the face and yet still put up a completely subjective ranking. BIG being lower than Furia and VP is insane if you compare their spending to their prize money, you just leave out s1mple's salary even though that directly effects the rest of the NA'VI, and if you look at the spending of G2 versus Vitality, G2 not only won more but they also had an S tier trophy, regardless of what HLTV ranks them they should not be in the same tier as Vitality, they were monetarily more successful. I liked the idea behind the video but why include the stats if your criteria isn't going to stay consistent?
Sticker money. Nice paragraph, though
Who really cares, tier lists are opinions and he is making interesting enough content when there is hardly any content at all for cs2 right now.
@@Mauisnake like how you changed the original comment, but you didn't grade them on sticker money and didn't feature them in the chart. My paragraph is pointing out that you were completely subjective, which if you are going to arbitrarily count sticker money, I guess that fits.
my bad guess you just straight up deleted it
@@nicholasanderson9072 This chart isnt completely subjective. Sticker money is around 500k if not more for a team. so compare vp's $634k in prize money compared to big's $91k and you can instantly see that vp did better economically. I do agree that there is some subjectiveness in there since you could just say sticker money is x amount and just do a division or subtraction to judge the teams economically. This would make for a 10 second video though. Also thropies are in my mind not anything to judge a team on economically since winning a thropy itself does not give an economical advantage. look at faze and g2 both 1 thropy but 240k difference in price money.