That Pedal Show - Boss Metal Zone: Part 2 With Rabea Massaad
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This is the follow-up to our ‘Boss Metal Zone vs Dan & Mick’ • That Pedal Show - Boss... .
We’re delighted to have Rabea Massaad (Dorje, Toska, Chapman Guitars, Victory Amplifiers) along as a guest for this video, firstly because he's such a wonderful human, and secondly because he's somebody who actually plays heavy styles properly… unlike Dan & Mick!
/ rabeaafro
We start by briefly comparing the standard Boss MT-2 Metal Zone to the Analog Man-modded version, before moving on to a run-through some other contemporary high-gain pedals. Bea is not really a gain pedal guy - he prefers using high-gain amps - so we’re interested to hear what he thinks about these. Plus - how good does Dan’s Tele sound as a metal guitar? You might be surprised!
The pedals today are:
• Boss MT-2 Metal Zone www.bossus.com/products/mt-2/
UK & Europe: bit.ly/35iLgCF
USA: bit.ly/3xrdbiS
• Analog Man Pro Mod Boss MT-2 Metal Zone
www.analogman.com/boss.htm
• DOD Boneshaker digitech.com/en/products/bones...
• Wampler CataPulp
• Wampler Triple Wreck
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2kVRfcv
Australia: bit.ly/34goquf
• Amptweaker Fat Metal Pro - No longer made, links to latest version
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3G3nRYm
• Amptweaker Tight Metal Pro - No longer made, links to latest version
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3JM8bet
USA: bit.ly/337KsV0
Bea also uses the Electro-Harmonix Memory Man 1100-TT right at the end.
Amps today are a Mesa Lonestar (100-watt mode, clean channel) and a Hamstead Artist 20, running together.
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
• Rabea’s signature ML-3 BEA FR: 1:47
• Clean sound from the amps: 2:50
• Boss MT-2 Metal Zone: 4:54
• Analog Man / Boss MT-2 Metal Zone Pro Mod: 5:52
• DOD Boneshaker: 7:31
• Wampler CataPulp 10:02
• Wampler Triple Wreck 10:53
• “How do you do that, Bea?”: 11:22
• Metal Zone - Show Me Your Dimebag: 13:53
• Amptweaker Fat Metal Pro: 14:06
• Amptweaker noise gate discussion: 14:41
• Single Coils and humbuckers with high gain? 16:32
• Amptweaker Tight Metal Pro: 17:23 and 20:05
• “Are you surprised?” 20:50
• “How would you set the gain and EQ, Bea?” 21:35
• EQ for band playing and home with heavy tones?: 26:18
• Bea plays us out: 29:33
Rabea is playing his Chapman Guitars ML-3 BEA, Dan is playing a Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster.
As always, all pedal and amp switching and routing is handled by TheGigRig G2.
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I had a great time hanging with these guys! So much fun! Thanks for having me down :-)
It's a joy to watch you play every time. Not only are you are great guitarist, you come across as a true gent.
+Rabea Massaad Can you come every week mate?! Thanks so much for making TPS so awesome this week!
Definitely keep us posted on your new signature guitar, looks and sounds fantastic!
Thanks for doing it!
+David Mazanec Mick here. Bea may answer separately David. Shouldn't affect tone to any great perceivable degree. It may affect feel however... If there wasn't a locking nut. The further the string travels in total, the more you have to stretch it for a given rise in pitch. Usher in the whole Jimi/Strat debate and perceived effects on string tension. Notice I said 'perceived effects'. But, without the locking nut they definitely feel different which may have some kind of subsconscious knock on to how you play, and therefore the sound of what you play. I expect this will be a long thread....
When I need a nice transparent boost I reach for the metal zone.
That's funny!!!! 😅😅
Noticed thats true with quite a few Boss pedals, another notable example is the Boss 7-band EQ pedal. It too can have everything else effectively turned off and just have the Level (volume) turned up for a clean boost.
Interesting.... I shall swap it out for my ts9 that I currently use as a boost. Jury’s still out but I’m interested!
@@dbo4506 If you wstch Bea in the Sound Like videos, youl'll see him and Matt using the eq a lot. Added benefit of using it is the abiliry to tweak the eq to get closer to the tone desired.
lolol
Something kind of interesting: I found an interesting how to use a Metal Zone on a Sweetwater review for the pedal, of all places. I followed those instructions, and came back to this video out of curiosity, and it is interesting how closely the settings I ended up with mimic what is on the board here. The set up is worth noting though (as opposed to just copying what is here) because it allows you to adjust for your particular rig. Credit to "Tony" from Sweetwater: "Start by placing all controls at the 12 o'clock position, which should be more or less neutral eq-wise, the inherent tone of the pedal not withstanding. Now turn the mid control all the way up(stay with me here) - now slowly sweep the mid-frequency control all around and find that awful, nasally annoying frequency... you'll know it when you hear it, and it will be different for your guitar than mine, so one setting does not fit all. Now that you have found that nasty tone, turn the mid control down to scoop it out. You are NOT scooping ALL the mids, just a certain frequency range that is unpleasant to the ears. Now adjust level, bass, treble & gain to taste."
Rabea's smile at 8:27 is exactly what guitar playing should be about. Pure joy.
Rabea is such a beast. That picking hand could crush daimonds.
I don't know what it is about Rabea, but I just want to give him a big hug!
he does look extra hugable
google his bands dorje and toska. thanks me later ;)
+Bad Motivator I've been following his stuff for several years now.
Dude. That's exactly what I was feeling!
yes a man can desire another man on this times theres nothing wrong...
I always thought that Rabea was a king, but never realised how much fitter he has gotten over the last few years. Well bloody done!
The chunk, the clarity, and the articulation...
I've been meaning to comment on this video since the day it was posted. I hope a lot of Guitar Center Heroes watch this video and learn something about setting a superior, more sophisticated sound instead of wanking away with the scoop of the month. I play more classic rock, but I really appreciated Rabea's focus and knowledge of his chosen musical genre, and his attention to detail in sculpting his guitar's voicing; adding clarity and dynamics in the stead of all out gain and scoop. Well Done! Love the show!
+Curtis Chavez Thank you Curtis! It's all a journey and Bea is such a cool guy to travel with as we move along ours. He's a rare talent and deserves much success. We love him. Cheers!
Great comment Curtis. I totally agree! Being a blues-rock player, rarely would I think metal players would have much concern about tone. Obviously, there are a few who "get it." After seeing this, I am now an even bigger fan of Rabea, a very talented, gifted and seemingly all-around great guy! And, it goes without saying that Dan and Mick are of that same merit... Happy Trails !!
To be fair, though, the modern metal community seems to be very focussed on tone, getting it not only to sound heavy but also to be clear and the notes of chords to be distinguishable. Though, to be fair also, I mostly hear from people who play heavily down-tuned genres. If you don't dial those tones in correctly you're gonna have a bad time. :D
I hope they don't watch this though, the eq settings are set horribly. Full of that bassy mush that makes all the riffs sloppy. I listened to this with studio headphones that usually lack a lot of bass but this video was just full on filled with bass. The telly sounded way better because the eqs were set silly. But I sense a bit of elitism with "superior" tones and "wankers" so I'll leave it :)
You french fried when you were supposed to pizza
I'm convinced that you could hand Rabea a Hello Kitty guitar and a First Act Walmart amp and he'd make it sound like a million dollar rig. The guy is amazing!
I had one of those Hello Kitty Squier Strats. Weirdly enough it just made you want to play thrash.
@@fletches4084 I've been tempted to buy one just for the irony.
@@fletches4084 Haha. Why have I been tempted whenever I see them come up on ebay. Just for the bants.
@@jimijames6449 Certainly a talking point. There's a certain satisfaction to be had from wringing Eruption out of something that shade of pink.
Zach Wylde does this very thing
Rabea's ability to blend funk and metal is really amazing. A very tasteful musician in all genre's. Great choice for a heavy player on TPS!
There he is again, love the show, and Rabea, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love your take on a genre I've never gotten into, glad to see you getting more and more recognition, turning me onto a genre!
hearing bea play blood and thunder was F*CKING AWESOME
I love hearing players of two different styles discuss their ideal tone. Gives a unique perspective.
Wow, watching this from a year and a half ago to what Rabea looks like now is just amazing. Great job man.
OK, this is really awesome... I didn't realize how much I would love seeing someone who plays a style I don't play talk about what they look for (especially when you played with the EQ & talking about pickups). Maybe you guys could bring in a Jazz player, a Blues player, synth guy, etc etc
+David M Great idea David - thanks for watching!
thought: when I was young, I cranked way more bass into my tone in my bedroom, simply to reproduce the sound I heard on albums. I failed to realize that I was attempting to replace bass guitar tones with my rhythm guitar work.
later when I played live and/or with a band, those same tones don't translate at all, and midrange eq became essential, as stated in this video.
I keep coming back to this video and watching it over and over again. Some great playing from Bea and very informative as always. But what I love the most is the Daniel can't keep his shit together during Bea's playing. Pretty sure that's the same reaction we've all had at some point whilst watching Bea play
The chunk, the clarity, the articulation. The holy trinity.
I really appreciate this particular video. There's no restrictive ego in these two guys and a willingness to learn from one another. That resulted in a really informative video which anyone could get something out of. Ive been playing metal for 22 years and still learned a lot just from this video alone. Cheers
That tele had a monster sound! It was awesome! Great video guys.
Anyone else prefer Dan's tone over Rabea's here? I totally wouldn't have thought it would sound that good.
You guys are costing me a fortune. I bought a Tight Metal Pro yesterday. Keep up the great channel and Rabea keep shredding.
And the amazing thing is that he absolutely kills it live. Seen him twice with Dorje - massive tone and never misses a note. Legend. Nice one guys and thanks!
looking at this video. I cant fucking believe how much weight he lost within the time span.
I am not much a metal fan, but Rabea's playing is epic as always and the videos with Daniel and Mick are funny and educational!
I have SO been looking forward to this episode ! Excellent show as always and I learned a lot. Great listening to Bea as he`s not only a cracking guitarist but is also a very articulate guy and explains why, what and how so well.
Ah man Rabea you just kill it every time. Absolute legend. You make me love this sound.
Great job guys! What a treat! Oh and hey Dan... You don't suck at metal....any more that anyone sucks at playing any "style". It's a guitar and you are a great guitarist. All it takes is a few adjustments. I struggle with jazz and blues...until I spend that little bit of precious time working on it. 100% sure you can shred! :)
5:31 dude... you just busted out some classic thrash sound. No sucking at metal at all!
Aye. Some old school going on there. Downstroke as you do!
What´s so magical about that tele? In every video it sounds splendid. Dan, your tone is one of the best tones I´ve ever heard, doesn´t matter what you´re running through... I NEED that tone. =)
+City Life haha, thanks C, yep, it's a wonderful guitar.
Amazing video guys! Keep up the great work.
I liked this episode far more than I thought I would. Excellent video. The play out section was awesome!
So impressed with those Metal Pro pedals! I used to have an old 5150 that I played through a Vader 2x12 and I can't believe how close those pedals get!
James Brown created the Amptweaker Metal Pro pedals and previously designed the Peavey 5150 with Eddie VH.
and I'm convinced Dan's tele is possessed by a metal god, it wants to be let out lol.
+Adam Earl Come inside these brackets, Adam, so we talk whisper. (It's Dan that's possessed, not the guitar.)
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+That Pedal Show true enough but you can't deny that tele has something special going on inside it. it's not a single or double stack pickup, there's something special there. we might build the instruments but it's up to them what they want to play. bring rebea back and let him rip on that start for a few.
i'm almost sold on a Tele... Estheticly and sound wise.
I love That Pedal Show, and i do even more now that you have branched out and jamming with legends like Rabea. Good one boys
Cracking video guys. Bea is, as always, an absolute beast of a player and a joy to watch. I'm not even a particular fan of the genre but he manages to make everything so musical you can't help but enjoy it.
I don't like metal, but I would totally use some of those. Boneshaker sounded sick.
+Henry Soults Think it was my fave (Mick here). As you know, me and metal... well, we've never really seen eye to eye. Cheers!
Finally been experimenting with the Boneshaker, and Mick and everyone, this pedal is fantastic with all the gain down, eq’s at noon and the level about 1 o’clock with a neck single coil, great big cleans to subtle blues crunch. I was not expecting that, and think ill use this for all “clean blues”, I.AM.AMAZED! Great show idea, using pedals not how they were intended but still useful! Cheers!
I think the Boneshaker is aimed more at the doom/sludge metal realm. It got kind of a fuzzy quality to it, though if you dial the gain back you can get some tighter sounds out of it. Great pedal for sure, the parametric eq is awesome.
hashdealer88 definitely aimed more at that doom crowd, using it as a boost in so many ways I find works for me, plus DOD was having an amazing deal, I could not resist.
Bea = Legend He has great ears for EQing and tone.
Good metal sounds are very tricky to get. But he knows the way.
Great show! Love Rabea's playing- the play-out was fantastic. Truly.
Yessss ! Finally part 2! I was certain you would never do it. Thanks guys!
holy shit balls @rabeaMassaad slimmed down alot!! Good for him :)!
Once again, the Amptweaker pedals just blow me away. Mammoth raging high gain in a box.
That was amazing. Such a great episode!!
This was a really cool episode. I wouldn't mind getting more episodes about heavy rock / metal, of course the episodes with Mick are funny and informative as well 😉
Rabea frickin rules
+The Gospel of Mark yeah he does :)
RABEA!!!
SO EXCITED!!!
Oh my goodness. SUCH a joy watching Bea experiment and discover new sounds, and I love how he looks at Mick's Tele with a little bit of envy and desire!!
So good to hear and see these two together. Great video guys.
It's been a long long time since I laughed out loud as hard as I just did with a yt video. 'Do it Daniel!' *hesitating 'No!' Haha!
The Tele actually sounds great with heavy distortion. You guys should definitely do more high gain pedals comparison.
Great work guys! I luv the contrasting tones and styles from both Daniel and Bea. I also like seeing how Daniel works with other players to dial in their tone. Awesome stuff!
An epic episode, thank you Dan, Mick and Rabea for that! Cheers
Rabea's face when Dave tunes down in drop d was just LOL ( min. 16.35) ahahahahahha
+fabrizio peretti Dave! I'm calling him Dave from this moment forward.
+That Pedal Show shit ahahahhaahhahaha my fault
Rabea = one fine djentleman.
This video, though only a few months old, just made me order myself a Amptweaker Tight Metal Pro.Thanks! :D
rabea is a beast, thx for invite him for the show
i would love to hear more of that boneshaker with rabea
Loved the Fatmetal (to the extent of thinking of purchasing one) and I think the DoD Boneshaker definitely didn't get enough love!
Ra-Beast Massaad = must see!
Bea is great to watch. Always interesting playing and can play other types of music as well.
Walt Coyle he really is. He's that type of guy who comes out at the end of every show to chat to the fans, such a nice and easy guy to talk to.
This is my favorite show on TH-cam. Just makes my Friday/Pay Day even more sweet!
Not being into much modern metal at all, this was probably one of the most informative episodes and maybe my favorite thus far. Rabea is clearly a knowledgeable person in addition to being a great player and until watching this, I've heard people talk about distinctions in metal tone but I've never really heard them. His explanation and playing really really highlighted some very important aspects that honestly, apply to many styles across the board - it's all about getting a sound that works for what you're doing. Thanks so much for opening my ears and my mind with this one!!!
Tele + FatMetal = pure bliss
Holy shit rabea has lost so much weight
He's half this size now. Good for him!
power of heavy metal
Damn, he was a big boy.
@@JohnnyReading I can't believe it's the same person. Fair play
What a beast, brilliant video, brilliant tone
So cool coming back to this and hearing the riff from Congress at the end!
Love this show! Learn so much every week! Could you do a video about guitarsond in synht-heavy pop music? I feel like the definition of good guitar tone = good blues or rock tone. I love that, but my experience is that that same tone dont work at all if keyboards are the maine part of the soundscape. You talk about it in videos like this, with the mids and amount of gain and stuff, and that is very interesting. I think a video about for exaple Coldplay and the guys from Katy Perrys band would be really informative! You should check out some live clips from the norwegian pop queen Gabrielle, she has a great guitarplayer in her band :)
Next episode: "Which gain pedal has the most pleasing hiss?"
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Great idea to have Rabea Massaad on the show. I loved his playing at the very end. Fantastic episode.
just came across this flashback. So awesome to see Rabea hanging out with the Pedal Guys. Awesome.
Holy shit I've only seen rabea videos from more recent years, I had no idea he lost that much weight.
He glad he looks a lot more healthy
Rabea the Beast. Awesome talent, really humble and cool lad.
Tow of my favorite internet personalities in one video is too much fun. I love the way Rabea sounds. Beautiful harmonizing mids sandwiched between angry lows and screeching highs. Nice job guys!!!
thanks so very much, i got so much information from this show. i have been learning to play guitar a year now and i have finally find the direction i want to go in. thanys
It seems like you guys just forgot about the boneshaker pedal once you moved to the next. It sounded amazing and is like half the price of the other pedals. But great video.
Tracy Street Agreed! It was my favourite by far.
Some good tones in there, but nothing in the same galaxy as the dual Kraken clip. That stereo Kraken rig is just the most beautiful driven sound I've ever heard.
dmwalker24 it sounded like shit in this clip.
Really great video. Finally, a fair review of the MT2. You confirmed what I have always believed about the pedal single coil is best with it. Those Amptweakers though, LEGIT. Thanks guys. Really good fun.
Daniel, another great show! Hope Mick is on the mend from last week. I'm not a metal guy myself but I was glued to the screen! Regardless of the weekly topic your show ALWAYS contains so much knowledge. I find myself trying new things with my amp and pedals every week from your conversations here. That Pedal Show has been my regular Friday ritual since the second episode... keep up the GREAT work!! Also, Rabea was a perfect guest. A great player with loads of personality! AWESOME!!
man, Rabea is up there. his improv chord stuff is just insane to me
+Zac Miller Us too - he is the real deal, no question, thanks for watching!
i can't get over that last little bit he did. it's like if adam jones had better fingers.
No doubt!
I'm getting that fat metal pro. And a fuckn' telecaster!
Tobias TK paradoxically,single coils sound awesome with lots of gain.
ABSOLUTELY one of your best interviews/gear Demos!!! 5stars
I love Dan's reactions to hearing a sweet riff or lick, this vid or any TPS vids. Love it!
Dime had an EQ pedal boosting mids. So to achieve an OK-ish tone on the metalzone, I don't scoop the mids on it. And Cut the mids a bit on the amp instead. Just a bit, not too much
I believe Dime's pickups also interacted in a way that boosted his mids without any amp involvement, though that is secondhand knowledge so take it as you will.
I actually think that analog metal zone sounded pretty good. Don't know how it would be at high volume, but it wasn't bad. Can't believe I'm saying this!
Awesome! Thanks for that!
Great episode! Enjoyed listening to Rabea play and talk!
Wonder who that rabea dude is
A beast at the guitar.
+Chris P. Bacon you did not realise he has a picture of himself with Rabea? xD
A god amongst men
i see you everywhere on youtube haha, nice to see you dude
The guy in your picture.
mastodon blood and thunder in that pedal show ??????????? is this real life ? hahahahahha
both these guys give an excellent demonstration with tasteful playing, very enjoyable listening to them
That was an awesome video! Thanks!
REALLY INTERESTING DICHOTOMY, Between "roots" and "metal" player gain, and EQ structures, another show would really be appreciated.....
I think Rabea has a new found love for the Tele..
I suspect he has always had some love for the Tele, considering he put a reversed Tele headstock on his signature guitar...
Scott Sakurai his guitar is a tele just has different pick ups and stuff body any neck is the same
This is probably one of your best episodes! I really hope to see Rabea again in a few more episodes. Also its amazing how both a metal and a non metal player are both learning things from each other.
+Mark Mathew We're all guitar players at the end of the day Mark!
Seriously, I watched this when it came out and 2 years later I'm still coming back to it for some reason. That Tele must have possessed me too.
Mick who? I haven't forgotten you. Completely in awe of Bea's right hand, funk and chunk.
+Jack Beale Guitar us too! Seriously such a great player
Indeed! I'm trying to learn this quick Funk picking Bea always does. Any videos from him on that?
I fucking love you guys, this video rules :)
+mofongotron we f#### love you too! :)
Yayyyyyyyy! This made my day. It would be so awesome to geek out on gear with you guys!
+mofongotron for real
Yep! I'm not much of a metal guy but I love Rabea's playing.
I think what rabea said about eq and tone especially when he said growing into a more professional guitar player holds true to more than metal for sure..he is a true pro..really enjoyed this one guys!
Yay! It's finally here, so much chatter about this video being made. :) Awesome work.
+TheCaptainOnTour cheers Capn ;)
00:53 i heared a Rob Chapman HEEEY.
Can you do the same video with 20 hours long of playing.
Rabea rocks! Great video guys...thanks!
Rabea is amazing, great talent and he seems like a fun guy to hang with. This is the best show.