estoy contigo... esta mal matar a personas inocentes pero al que el mato no tiene nada de inocente a matado a muchas personas y no le pasaran causa ahora le pasan sentencia y es malo el que le aplica la sentencia...este mundo esta de porquería por culpa de unos pocos que ostentan el poder.
*people of the working class* stand with luigi and as we all know, class knows no borders. We have more in common with the average working person in China than Elon Musk in our own country
@@xdmich6018 i wish we didn't. celebrating vigilante acts like Luigi's we're implicitly coming out and saying that we shouldn't go through orderly reforms to get what we want. But to take violent or authoritarian actions for it. I wish more people would want to solve healthcare issues through legislation, not by using violence against CEOs who really frankly aren't the root of our healthcare problems. That being said, I don't have any sympathy for the CEO personally.
@@bwoop1175 the reason why people go for vigilant options is because the lawful manner isn't possible anymore. By reading your comment, I can confidently say you would be filled with rage if you understood how fcked rhe is the legal system is to benefit people like that CEO
Luigi Mangione's action falls right with Aaron Swartz, who opened up thousands of Jstor articles for researchers for free and suffered the wrath of so called American justice system for it. When the oppression becomes systematic, breaking the system becomes the only morally correct option.
@@Cloggedlamp where was the sympathy when they denied the claims of over 30% of their policyholders, who also have families? do their families not count? is the family of the person responsible for their deaths supposed to mean more?
@@wishub Ok, a few things. First thing , two wrongs don’t make a right, period. Secondly, decisions are made by everyone in positions that affect people. You can look at any decision any world leader or powerful ceo made that has killed people indirectly or directly. The ceo of united didn’t wake up one day and personally chose to kill people, he made a business decision and we can’t measure the indirect effect of that. It could have killed people, could have saved people. These are things we can’t measure. On a smaller level even you and I have most likely indirectly killed people. My main conclusion and concern are this. Yea I do respect anyone that has a goal and carries it in order to enact justice for something they are passionate about to an extent, but if we glorify people who kill CEO’s whats next? Just keep killing ceos and politicians because we think they are morally wrong? Why stop at one ceo. It’s just bad precedent and not how society should work. If we tried to right everything thing we deemed morally wrong there wouldn’t be a single person left.
In Brazil, you would hear THE SAME comments. I hear the SAME comments from people here about this episode. Everyone in this planet are being screwed by some greedy souless billionaire companies.
People keep speaking on the dangers of being a vigilante, but forget the most well-appreciated vigilantes stepped in where the law was neutered. Of course we should not go hurting people who have done bad things, as none of us are innocent. That is the proxy the law offers, is an assurance that the right course was made. But we also all loved Taken, so I'm not surprised that people sympathize with him. In a country where innocent men are given the death penalty, I am very unsad to see a man giving out essentially the same thing to innocent sick people gone. I don't care. Those in power should wake up and realize this was always the potential if they ignore their actual constituents needs. We could have a German system of healthcare which would be much better but we do not. Letting insurance companies commit highway robbery was never going to end well.
Can you explain comment #'s 1 and 5? I don't understand what is meant by "It's not unreasonable that some people are poor" and "you should not carry other people's fate ... there is something pitiful about pitiful people."
You have to know the Chinese and their philosophy about helping out people. They don't look too favorably at it, and it could land you in some deep trouble if you try in China.
I'm not too sure about #1 either but #5 meant that "Don't help others. (Because some people who you helped are not going to help you when you get into trouble for helping them.)" and "(The American) people are pitiful (for their terrible healthcare system), but they deserve it (as they didn't rise up to help this Luigi guy.)"
#1 has the doge emote, but also i think basically means that "So there IS a reason why some people are poor..." perhaps indicating that the government/insurance companies are the reason in making others poor through their policies. #5 is basically that you should not help other pitiful people as they would not respond in kind to your efforts. See the American people not doing enough to help him. Theres not enough backlash nation-wide against the government for what they are doing to Luigi. In the end only he suffers the injustice while everyone else watches. EDIT: I am not sure what Namastewoke is talking about, there was a stint in China where some people would pretend to need help and then say you did something to get them into the situation to begin with and extort money. This has since declined heavily since CCTV monitoring such situation. Chinese people are typically very helpful unless you have deceitful intent.
Lol luckily I live in Vietnam which doesnt have this kind of bullcrap, our health insurance is state owned so no rejecting and stuffs. And people called communist evil, when we just want affordable healthcare lmao
Just a fyi for viewers, the translation saying "the sad state of the law in the US" is a clear embellishment / mistranslation. The original sentence does not contain the word "sad" at all, and whether it's inferred or not is highly debatable to say the least. Hopefully this was a mistake rather than a deliberate attempt to stir more division.
You know, the term "Netizen" has always bugged me. It sounds very communistic, very group thinky. "Netizen" suggets jurisdiction, subjection, and control over a people; it's the term used by the marxists propagandists (not you).
Anyone using internet is netizen. If they post comment like me and you are doing here in YT, we are netizens. It’s nothing really to socialist or Marxist about it.
Well, honestly, I don't really understand these reactions. Are they praising this murderer? Is the sentiment that he did something to improve the 'greater good'? This Western brain can't understand this! Culture clash I guess!
Unfortunately for most in the West, in order to understand the East and the nuances, one has to adopt an Eastern mind and be able to see things from an Eastern perspective. Or else, as a famous American Rudyard Kipling has observed and written, "East is East and West is West and neither shall the twain meet" a long time ago despite his familiarity with Eastern culture in his travels.
my favorite comment ' those who carry firewood for the public should not be allowed to freeze to death in the wind and snow"
estoy contigo... esta mal matar a personas inocentes pero al que el mato no tiene nada de inocente a matado a muchas personas y no le pasaran causa ahora le pasan sentencia y es malo el que le aplica la sentencia...este mundo esta de porquería por culpa de unos pocos que ostentan el poder.
this is the old saying from China
为众人抱薪者，不可使其冻毙于风雪；为大众谋福利者，不可使其孤军奋战；为自由开路者，不可使其困顿于荆棘
This video shows me that not only do we have a lot in common with eachother, but the entire world.
working class people often (not always) have more in common with each other than with ruling class people
I've always thought nationalism is a distraction from the class war.
Chinese people stand with Luigi
People of every country stand with him
Well yeah, they had Mao!
*people of the working class* stand with luigi and as we all know, class knows no borders. We have more in common with the average working person in China than Elon Musk in our own country
@@xdmich6018 i wish we didn't. celebrating vigilante acts like Luigi's we're implicitly coming out and saying that we shouldn't go through orderly reforms to get what we want. But to take violent or authoritarian actions for it.
I wish more people would want to solve healthcare issues through legislation, not by using violence against CEOs who really frankly aren't the root of our healthcare problems.
That being said, I don't have any sympathy for the CEO personally.
@@bwoop1175 the reason why people go for vigilant options is because the lawful manner isn't possible anymore.
By reading your comment, I can confidently say you would be filled with rage if you understood how fcked rhe is the legal system is to benefit people like that CEO
Luigi Mangione's action falls right with Aaron Swartz, who opened up thousands of Jstor articles for researchers for free and suffered the wrath of so called American justice system for it. When the oppression becomes systematic, breaking the system becomes the only morally correct option.
Aaron 😢
And how do you proof the impression has become systematic?
@@yassinazarkan4207How people who act for the people are systematically processes into dead people by a people controlled by a mass delusion.
thats a completely different case tho, no one was in life danger by not getting jstor articles for free
@@yassinazarkan4207 Because his IQ > 10 crayon eater
There is not much sympathy for greedy CEO's anywhere in the world, it seems.
More like sympathy for human beings with family’s. People are too quick to call ceos bad people just because they have money
@@Cloggedlamp Yeah it’s not like he used AI to deny 80% of insurance claims and left people to die
@@Cloggedlamp where was the sympathy when they denied the claims of over 30% of their policyholders, who also have families? do their families not count? is the family of the person responsible for their deaths supposed to mean more?
@@wishub Ok, a few things. First thing , two wrongs don’t make a right, period. Secondly, decisions are made by everyone in positions that affect people. You can look at any decision any world leader or powerful ceo made that has killed people indirectly or directly. The ceo of united didn’t wake up one day and personally chose to kill people, he made a business decision and we can’t measure the indirect effect of that. It could have killed people, could have saved people. These are things we can’t measure. On a smaller level even you and I have most likely indirectly killed people. My main conclusion and concern are this. Yea I do respect anyone that has a goal and carries it in order to enact justice for something they are passionate about to an extent, but if we glorify people who kill CEO’s whats next? Just keep killing ceos and politicians because we think they are morally wrong? Why stop at one ceo. It’s just bad precedent and not how society should work. If we tried to right everything thing we deemed morally wrong there wouldn’t be a single person left.
@@Cloggedlamp monsters are people too? and since when did we started idolizing hitlers and do nazis also had family?
My Italian neighbour gave me wood fried pizza last Christmas.
What did they give this year?
I hope you returned the favor
Where is Mario Mangione?
In another castle
Doesn't matter where Mario is. Luigi has surpassed him as a legend.
Locked in Guantanamo
I love Luigi, the Chinese people and humanity for rising up against the oligarchs.
China is literally aiding Russian Oligarchs what are you talking about?
Lol, China is nothing BUT oligarchs. 😂
Go date him then
@@TheFirstKit8826 LOL Luigi probably already has a ton of hybristophiliacs lined up, this is not the dig you think it is 😂
@@TheFirstKit8826 School is out I see.
1:57 start the Chinese comments
In Brazil, you would hear THE SAME comments.
I hear the SAME comments from people here about this episode.
Everyone in this planet are being screwed by some greedy souless billionaire companies.
I have a horrible feeling Luigi may be suicided.
Me too 😔
Then revolution begins
@@qjtvaddictkeep dreaming, after Snowdens revelations nothing happened either
@@qjtvaddict The USA working class is much too divided for that to happen
Yes, FBI will let the people know in a few months that he may be suicided in his own cell, just go ask Mike Pompeo.
Even they are supporting him, WOW!
Hopefully they get inspired to... take action against their own oppressors.
they already did 70 years ago@@Halcon_Sierreno
@@Halcon_SierrenoThey take care of corrupt billionaires and CEOs constantly in ways we would not approve of in the west lol
@@phillipanselmo8540
They did not. The CCP would not stand a chance if it was not for Stalin's support.
@@Halcon_Sierreno "oh look they don't have the horrid liberal anti-democracy system, they must be soooo oppressive!"
Love from Germany.
People keep speaking on the dangers of being a vigilante, but forget the most well-appreciated vigilantes stepped in where the law was neutered. Of course we should not go hurting people who have done bad things, as none of us are innocent. That is the proxy the law offers, is an assurance that the right course was made. But we also all loved Taken, so I'm not surprised that people sympathize with him. In a country where innocent men are given the death penalty, I am very unsad to see a man giving out essentially the same thing to innocent sick people gone. I don't care. Those in power should wake up and realize this was always the potential if they ignore their actual constituents needs. We could have a German system of healthcare which would be much better but we do not. Letting insurance companies commit highway robbery was never going to end well.
Love Luigi Mangione. He is gone global now. Love from Africa.
Go marry him you meatriding simp
Can you explain comment #'s 1 and 5? I don't understand what is meant by "It's not unreasonable that some people are poor" and "you should not carry other people's fate ... there is something pitiful about pitiful people."
You have to know the Chinese and their philosophy about helping out people. They don't look too favorably at it, and it could land you in some deep trouble if you try in China.
I'm not too sure about #1 either but #5 meant that "Don't help others. (Because some people who you helped are not going to help you when you get into trouble for helping them.)" and "(The American) people are pitiful (for their terrible healthcare system), but they deserve it (as they didn't rise up to help this Luigi guy.)"
#1 has the doge emote, but also i think basically means that "So there IS a reason why some people are poor..." perhaps indicating that the government/insurance companies are the reason in making others poor through their policies.
#5 is basically that you should not help other pitiful people as they would not respond in kind to your efforts. See the American people not doing enough to help him. Theres not enough backlash nation-wide against the government for what they are doing to Luigi. In the end only he suffers the injustice while everyone else watches.
EDIT: I am not sure what Namastewoke is talking about, there was a stint in China where some people would pretend to need help and then say you did something to get them into the situation to begin with and extort money. This has since declined heavily since CCTV monitoring such situation. Chinese people are typically very helpful unless you have deceitful intent.
@@aaronp2542 So #5 is basically the near equivalent to "no good deed goes unpunished."
@@aaronp2542 I think your explanation is BEST. Thanks!
Love from Mexico.
I love you Luigi impression, more of that please.
Haha, glad to see at least someone appreciated it.
St Luigi ❤ A self sacrificing hero.
Lol luckily I live in Vietnam which doesnt have this kind of bullcrap, our health insurance is state owned so no rejecting and stuffs. And people called communist evil, when we just want affordable healthcare lmao
That lady that got sentenced to death for corruption wanted a bit more than that.
I am an American who lived in China for many years and I am always on WeChat😂😂😂💯🏆我很想念中国
Why not come back for a visit?
@@chopsticksandtrains wonder how they would react to kill dozer
Except that sad state of the law I don't think China or any of us has a great legal system anymore
Finally som perspective on this from outside the states
I liked all the comments you read out. I could have listened to more.
He has not been proven guilty yet.
Gotta agree with a lot of the sentiment
Allegedly killed.
Luigi is a legend
sleep not well. Eat not well. All my mind is about Luigi😂
MARRY HIM
Let's go French Revolution
Just a fyi for viewers, the translation saying "the sad state of the law in the US" is a clear embellishment / mistranslation. The original sentence does not contain the word "sad" at all, and whether it's inferred or not is highly debatable to say the least. Hopefully this was a mistake rather than a deliberate attempt to stir more division.
0:33 talk tuah
Damn the Chinese are hella philosophical
GDF Vibes
the only unfortunate part is him being caught
Mentally ill
Based
ey luigi whacked that gabagool eeeyyy im walking here
wdym unfortunate incident? It is only unfortunate if Luigin was sentenced guilty and serious penalty, so far it is very fortunate
Wild
Unfortunate?
NGL video starts at 2:05
Why so less likes 👍🏼
real American - superman, well, with Italian roots..
BASEDBASEDBASEDBASED
All women reactions....
Luigi
Ok, thanks.
"this unfortunate incident" - I know are supposed to say that, however
You know, the term "Netizen" has always bugged me. It sounds very communistic, very group thinky. "Netizen" suggets jurisdiction, subjection, and control over a people; it's the term used by the marxists propagandists (not you).
Netizen means a citizen on the internet. You are a netizen.
Anyone using internet is netizen. If they post comment like me and you are doing here in YT, we are netizens. It’s nothing really to socialist or Marxist about it.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 No retract that statement please. 🥺
@@adlerzwei Which one?
sound like a you problem. Overthinking wont get you far in life tbh 🤷♂️
lol not what I expected, I figured they were all gonna laugh at the concept of medical debt.
Yes Luigi should go to jail. So should every CEO of health insurance companies in America.
Well, honestly, I don't really understand these reactions. Are they praising this murderer? Is the sentiment that he did something to improve the 'greater good'? This Western brain can't understand this! Culture clash I guess!
Think about what people goes through because of this healtchare thing.
Yes It was poetic justice .
All I can say without getting cencored by TH-cam is this was a beatiful justice ..
Simply put, It’s just supposing Luigi.
Unfortunately for most in the West, in order to understand the East and the nuances, one has to adopt an Eastern mind and be able to see things from an Eastern perspective.
Or else, as a famous American Rudyard Kipling has observed and written, "East is East and West is West and neither shall the twain meet" a long time ago despite his familiarity with Eastern culture in his travels.
@@George-k6o9t Kipling, not Twain (who was way more than a journalist).
please stop speaking in a Brooklyn accent when saying teh name Luigi, he is not a lower middle class loaf about
.....