100 percent just wished the people running the club at this moment see what we're all seeing week in week out but it looks like they've got blinkers on and ear muffs
I told my Toffee mate when Dyche was appointed that he will make you fall out of love with football as I did at Burnley. He laughed at the time but ..... well, do I need to say more?
His job description is keeping Everton out of the relegation. No more, no less.He doesn't aim for mid table or above. Week in week out we are looking like a championship side and it's no longer funny.
Not the worst. We got 48 points excluding the deduction last season. However, with just 2 PL wins and 10 goals scored, he's lost his way this time out. Plus, our quality of football is garbage. Dyche looks like he's taking us down and as Friedkin Group need to protect their investment, it won't be a surprise if they replace him soon. Hopefully, this happens and they make a good appointment.
Dyche, much like Allardyce, Pulis etc is very hard to find a successor for. Not because they're top managers but because they set the club culture to such a way that even you get a more expansive manager in, they haven't had enough time to coach the park the bus habits out of them and just fail with half and half tactics. Lopetegui was seen as a decent manager but he's followed from moyes at West ham and he's struggling getting the players out of that mindset. I just don't know who can go in at Everton with all those players that are only suitable for Dyche
Drop Tarky, Young, Ducs, and bring in Patto, Mangala, and Keane. Would even bring in Omari Benjamin up front, the lad is a natural finisher and can't do any worse than the shower of @÷£%× up front.
Sean Dyche will relegate Everton if he is allowed to remain at the helm, that is the single and only metric that matters this season. He has got to go. The club, the players, the fans all need a lift and a reset. These players if coached properly are easily a mid table side, proved last season ... Dyche's inability to react in game or to even plan for each opponent accordingly is completely absent. He has had his day, has taken millions in salary from this club and is no longer fit for purpose.
For all the talk of 'Dyche day' his preparation for this season was dreadful, players heavy legged and injuries all over the place going into the easiest opening fixtures in the league. His stubborn loyalty and blind sightedness towards his favourites is also galling.
Our manager just can’t manage, he’s not fit for purpose, you can talk and talk and say whatever you want, our manager has turned us into laughing stock
Haven't scored in360+minutes that isn't good enough. We are the laughing stock of the premiership. The rest of the teams must be rubbing their hands knowing they have everton next.
In a word Yes! but it's not just him the whole team were total crap, what hurts the most though is when you see laughing by some of the players at the end of the game. F all to laugh about you don't deserve these fans who follow you everywhere. 😡
He’s not even worse than the man he replaced, come on Les you’re better than this. We can argue semantics all we like but there’s a metric called points and you can look at how many points each manager averaged per game. The fact he’s even in the discussion speaks volumes about the current state we’re in 🤢
Yeah, fair shout, mate. I'm just so exhausted by it all and can't see it getting any better. This should have been a season to build on last season but the wheels have come off and neither the players nor the manager seem to be taking responsibility. The club has been a mess for a long time, but this feels as bad as it's been. Genuinely dreading these next two games.
@@TheBlueRoomEFC we hoped it would be a season to build on but we overperformed last season. Getting lucky with injuries was a huge part of that, I also can’t see it getting much better either. I’ve been consistent with my opinion that we desperately need to spend money on PL level attackers, otherwise we are bang in trouble. Been saying we need to buy goals for almost 5 seasons now and since then we’ve sold what goals we did have without replacing them, that’s a recipe for disaster regardless of the manager
@@theblues8840 That turnover of players feels like it's really coming to bit us now. We have rode our luck fo three seasons and it's worrying that a fourth could be one too many
@@TheBlueRoomEFC yeah mate I agree, it’d be nice if we could somehow put a clause in that prevents Dyche managing a rival when we sack him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he went into Southampton or Leicester (before RVN’s appointment) and kept them up at our expense and sent us down.
I’d 100% get Joe Royle in till the end of the season. Quality lasts. He’d lift them with his huge team building ability plus convey the battling spirit that Everton expects. He is our legend 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
The treatment of Dixon makes him the worst man manager ever.. Tarkowski has been dreadful all season Keane has been better than him ..too many players with end of contract career mentally
Yeah, on the one hand those players coming to the end of their contracts gives us a good chance to start again, but it's quote a dangerous situation as none seem to playing for a new contract. Complete apathy right across the club
The mad thing is with Keane, is that persisted with him for way too long last season when he was making mistake after mistake but he’s actually been in relatively good form this season and he drops him. Absolutely insane to me
Scarly times for us blues if we dont act now and get rid of dyche we are going this season dont get me wrong this squad of players aren't the best but there better then what dyche is getting from them
Dyche at best, is the perfect manager for a 3rd tier football club, we've been floundering in the relegation zone ever since, moshi needs to act now, or we're going down.
Rodger, with the greatest of respect, you talk a lot of sense and I really appreciate your views normally but how can you say on the one hand that the squad is the 3rd worst in the league and it’s “all on Thelwell” while saying on the other that Dyche has to do better and needs to go? My position is that, while I’m no fan of Dyche and his dour brand of rigid Football, he’s also worked miracles (with one hand tied behind his back, no less) while his best players are being sold beneath him and being replaced with freebies and loans, to keep this squad in the league and deserves to be given the opportunity to improve the squad if / when the funds to do so does arrive. As a manager, all you can do is set your team up and you can’t legislate for your best players, Tarky & Jarrad, making 3-4 huge errors which kill the game, as they did yesterday. Take this team out of the rigid shape that it’s in and it’s a certainty to go down. They can’t press. They are the slowest group of players I’ve ever seen, especially in transition. Be careful what you wish for. With little / no money to spend in January, no manager worth his salt touches Everton. I think we’re better backing the horse that’s already kept us up for the last 2 seasons.
I agree with a lot of this mate but Dyche is done, there’s no coming back from this imo. I think new manager bounce is probably our only hope now unless we spend in January
@ I can understand fans who want to twist rather than stick in this situation (after all, it’s easier to shift another manager than it is to move on 15+ players - which is what needs to happen in the next 18 months) I agree with Rodger that this squad is in the 3 worst in the league. In that case, I think Dyche has overperformed for a long time. The Football is dull and uninspiring but I think it has to be to a degree. Even if you look at the absolute worst teams in the league (Southampton & Ipswich) they at least have pace and creativity in forward and wide areas (Dibling, Fernandes, Archer // Hutchinson, Delap, Szmodics) that affords them the option to play in ways that we simply can’t. McNeill, Harrison, N’Diaye and Lindstrom in wide areas is as bad as it gets. N’Diaye has a bit more about him than the others but he can’t do it on his own and we rarely get him on the ball in areas he can hurt the opposition anyway, that requires something else we don’t have - legs in midfield. I have massive sympathy for Dyche because this is how he has always played and we knew that when we hired him. We got exactly what we wished for and he’s delivered to this point. We’re still a Premier League team. My biggest worry is that we sack him and end up with a Baines or Ferguson in charge till the end of the season because no other manager worth looking at wants it until the summer when they can spend a bit and change things up.
I think this squad is better than were we are in the league. The squad last year (without the deduction) finished above Fulham, Brentford etc and were level with Brighton. The squad is now stronger and has gone backwards, that's definitely on Dyche. For me he has to go, and the sooner the better.
@@dangoodman121 I don’t mean this to sound harsh mate but Isn’t that argument a little unbalanced? You’ve deduced this squad is better than it is because of where it finished last season but largely the same group only survived on the final day the year before. Couldn’t it be that Dyche had us overperforming last year and now we’re seeing the true level of the squad? Bottom 5 and circling the drain. That’s a lot more accurate IMO than believing we’re as good as the Brighton’s & Brentfords of the league. I suspect you’re right and that Dyche will go sooner rather than later but I don’t expect it will prompt an upturn in form (unless we sign 3-4 in January). We might even regret making the change, come the end of the season.
@@dangoodman121 because last season Brentford had massive injuries and this season they don’t. Last season we had one of the best injury records and now we don’t, it’s that simple really. If you take Toney, Mbuemo, Wissa etc away from Thomas Frank they’d be struggling for goals just like us.
Not sure the squad was better under Lampard after Rafa ripped it to pieces. Dyche is a terrible manager - said it when he was linked & when he signed & ever since. The lack of belief in the players comes from not having a decent Coach to give them confidence & tactics to win a game. No player wants to play for a nil-nil.
Lampard had Richarlison and Gordon in attack who we sold for 50-60 million each. Now we’ve barely even got a forward worth 25 million never mind two of them worth double that.
Why is it only the everton supporters always wanting a new manager you don't hear Ipswich wolves cristal Palace calling for their manager's heads you can only work with the player ability you have not really the best player in the world at Burnley Burnley or now everton
I'm a united fan. we WERE there for the taking. Everton were by far the better team for the first half. 7hag has put us in a rut that'll take a long time to unravel, whereby conceding the first goal makes us crumble and then we spend the remainder of the game failing to break down the opposition. Everton just had to nick the first goal and then dyche tactics of sitting in and defending would have frustrated us all game. We'd have been reduced to that lemon Fernandes taking aimless long shots.
UHM ?......He has had probably the` poorest squad under the worst circumstances.... He kept us up last season with that run at the end of the season. Without goals we will struggle and I would only replace him with a serious winner/motivator. After December though we may have to gamble on Mourinho or someone.
He got us into that position with 4 months without a win. We've also had much worse squads - early Moyes, Kendall 3, Mike Walker even under Royle were all far worse without even a £10m player (around £40m today) among any. Pickford and Branthwaite alone are probably worth more than those 3 entire squads alone even considering inflation since!
@@niallhussey8023 exactly you’re talking about decades ago mate, most of the league had barely any money back then so we wasn’t outmatched unless it was a top side. Compare that to now when championship teams are regularly coming up and investing more than us.
@@theblues8840 I mentioned inflation. What two players from any of those squads do you think are on a par with the value of Pickford and Branthwaite relative to the times? I see zero.
Sorry lads but the manager is bang on the money when he talks about less possession suiting us. I know we’d all love to forget what happened yesterday but if we had just lumped it long we wouldn’t have conceded those daft goals. If Everton try and control the game in possession it always leads to suicide passes/touches that we concede from. If we played with that logic we’d be like Burnley under Kompany last year or Southampton this year.
@@Daniel_Barton better football is irrelevant when you lack goals in the team. A new manager won’t make a goalscorer appear out of nowhere, they’ll need investment to buy some goals otherwise winning games in this league will be a problem.
@theblues8840 I had a look through the results and Richarlison scored 4 goals in those 22 games for Benitez. Dwight McNeil has scored 5 in Dyche's last 22 games. Similar output despite the obvious gulf in class. Where else did Benitez"s other 30 goals from then? Townsend, Gray, Doucoure, Calvert-Lewin, Solomon Rondon, Davies, Gomes, Iwobi, Gordon, Branthwaite and Keane. A full XI of goalscorers with goals coming from everywhere in the team even with a style of play not much worse than Dyche. Those not at the club now aren't much better than current options. Maybe £10m extra value combined
Worst Everton manager ever. People forget he’d only won 4 games in 6 months when he got sacked by Burnley.
@@MrJevman exactly
100 percent just wished the people running the club at this moment see what we're all seeing week in week out but it looks like they've got blinkers on and ear muffs
We have had some poor Managers at Everton, but Dyche has to go down as one of the worst, he appears clueless.
As shit as it is now, there’s no way that he’s worse than Lampard or Benitez. And before anyone has a go, I want Dyche out.
I told my Toffee mate when Dyche was appointed that he will make you fall out of love with football as I did at Burnley. He laughed at the time but ..... well, do I need to say more?
The Gravel voiced Ginger Haired DESTROYER of the beautiful game.
We need big banners Wednesday dyche out
This season’s disaster began with Ndiaye being substituted against Bournemouth. Let’s not forget we’ve had DCL available most of this season.
Rodger talks a lot of sense, we are a bottom 4 team
Lowest points after 13 games since 1994, needs to be sacked immediately because we could be in the bottom three at the end of December
His job description is keeping Everton out of the relegation. No more, no less.He doesn't aim for mid table or above. Week in week out we are looking like a championship side and it's no longer funny.
Not the worst. We got 48 points excluding the deduction last season.
However, with just 2 PL wins and 10 goals scored, he's lost his way this time out. Plus, our quality of football is garbage.
Dyche looks like he's taking us down and as Friedkin Group need to protect their investment, it won't be a surprise if they replace him soon. Hopefully, this happens and they make a good appointment.
Dyche, much like Allardyce, Pulis etc is very hard to find a successor for. Not because they're top managers but because they set the club culture to such a way that even you get a more expansive manager in, they haven't had enough time to coach the park the bus habits out of them and just fail with half and half tactics. Lopetegui was seen as a decent manager but he's followed from moyes at West ham and he's struggling getting the players out of that mindset. I just don't know who can go in at Everton with all those players that are only suitable for Dyche
Drop Tarky, Young, Ducs, and bring in Patto, Mangala, and Keane. Would even bring in Omari Benjamin up front, the lad is a natural finisher and can't do any worse than the shower of @÷£%× up front.
Not an Everton fan but I found Rodger a pleasure to listen to!
Thanks for the nice feedback, mate. It's always a pleasure chatting to Rodger.
You put it Perfectly Gentlemen. Thank You. Michael Carrick !!?? No Thanks.
worst manager? 😬he is a calamity for our club.
Sean Dyche will relegate Everton if he is allowed to remain at the helm, that is the single and only metric that matters this season. He has got to go. The club, the players, the fans all need a lift and a reset. These players if coached properly are easily a mid table side, proved last season ... Dyche's inability to react in game or to even plan for each opponent accordingly is completely absent. He has had his day, has taken millions in salary from this club and is no longer fit for purpose.
“Easily a mid table side” ….
Get me some of what you’re drinking please mate 😂
For all the talk of 'Dyche day' his preparation for this season was dreadful, players heavy legged and injuries all over the place going into the easiest opening fixtures in the league. His stubborn loyalty and blind sightedness towards his favourites is also galling.
Our manager just can’t manage, he’s not fit for purpose, you can talk and talk and say whatever you want, our manager has turned us into laughing stock
He hasn’t turned us into one, we was a laughing stock before he even got here
Haven't scored in360+minutes that isn't good enough. We are the laughing stock of the premiership. The rest of the teams must be rubbing their hands knowing they have everton next.
There's nothing at all to fear from this Everton side, is there
It's called the 'Premier League' not 'Premiership'. It hasn't been called the 'Premiership' since the end of the 2007/08 season.
Yes.
In a word Yes! but it's not just him the whole team were total crap, what hurts the most though is when you see laughing by some of the players at the end of the game. F all to laugh about you don't deserve these fans who follow you everywhere. 😡
He’s not even worse than the man he replaced, come on Les you’re better than this.
We can argue semantics all we like but there’s a metric called points and you can look at how many points each manager averaged per game.
The fact he’s even in the discussion speaks volumes about the current state we’re in 🤢
Yeah, fair shout, mate. I'm just so exhausted by it all and can't see it getting any better. This should have been a season to build on last season but the wheels have come off and neither the players nor the manager seem to be taking responsibility. The club has been a mess for a long time, but this feels as bad as it's been. Genuinely dreading these next two games.
@@TheBlueRoomEFC we hoped it would be a season to build on but we overperformed last season.
Getting lucky with injuries was a huge part of that, I also can’t see it getting much better either.
I’ve been consistent with my opinion that we desperately need to spend money on PL level attackers, otherwise we are bang in trouble.
Been saying we need to buy goals for almost 5 seasons now and since then we’ve sold what goals we did have without replacing them, that’s a recipe for disaster regardless of the manager
@@theblues8840 That turnover of players feels like it's really coming to bit us now. We have rode our luck fo three seasons and it's worrying that a fourth could be one too many
@@TheBlueRoomEFC yeah mate I agree, it’d be nice if we could somehow put a clause in that prevents Dyche managing a rival when we sack him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he went into Southampton or Leicester (before RVN’s appointment) and kept them up at our expense and sent us down.
Should potential new owners give moshiri the money to pay dyche off and protect his investment
4 - 0 was the most predictable result in football history .
An Emphatic YES. What about the Shite he was spouting today in the press conference. Saying we have no forwards !! He's a Liar as well.
Yes
Can we not start a petition to get him sacked as the people at the top have the capability to think about sacking him
We will deffo be in bottom 3 so frigging sad we are a huge club lost for words
No glad he's kept us up done his job
He definitely is . Got to the point we're I couldn't care anymore
Did you hear what the new united manager said about Everton although shocking he was right
Same old adage for past years EFC,conceed first goal game over DEFEAT DEFEAT
DYCHE out forthwith
Id play Pickford Patterson O'Brien branthrait mangala guey Harrison Lindstrom idaye beto DCL go for the jugler coybb 3points needed
I’d 100% get Joe Royle in till the end of the season. Quality lasts. He’d lift them with his huge team building ability plus convey the battling spirit that Everton expects. He is our legend 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I wouldn’t want to put a club legend through the pain of working with this squad it’d probably kill him.
What have you got against Joe royle 😅
I just adore him 💙 it would be so uplifting to see him back
The treatment of Dixon makes him the worst man manager ever..
Tarkowski has been dreadful all season Keane has been better than him ..too many players with end of contract career mentally
Yeah, on the one hand those players coming to the end of their contracts gives us a good chance to start again, but it's quote a dangerous situation as none seem to playing for a new contract. Complete apathy right across the club
@TheBlueRoomEFC they're mainly players that won't be missed
The mad thing is with Keane, is that persisted with him for way too long last season when he was making mistake after mistake but he’s actually been in relatively good form this season and he drops him. Absolutely insane to me
dont see how anyone can defend the manager any more i was done with him after the fulham game
HELP free fall in to the championship. DYCHE IS NOT GOING TO SAVE US .change is needed now .not when we're relegated.
Scarly times for us blues if we dont act now and get rid of dyche we are going this season dont get me wrong this squad of players aren't the best but there better then what dyche is getting from them
We have a built in inferiority complex it’s in our DNA now.. against any team
Dyche at best, is the perfect manager for a 3rd tier football club, we've been floundering in the relegation zone ever since, moshi needs to act now, or we're going down.
Rodger, with the greatest of respect, you talk a lot of sense and I really appreciate your views normally but how can you say on the one hand that the squad is the 3rd worst in the league and it’s “all on Thelwell” while saying on the other that Dyche has to do better and needs to go?
My position is that, while I’m no fan of Dyche and his dour brand of rigid Football, he’s also worked miracles (with one hand tied behind his back, no less) while his best players are being sold beneath him and being replaced with freebies and loans, to keep this squad in the league and deserves to be given the opportunity to improve the squad if / when the funds to do so does arrive.
As a manager, all you can do is set your team up and you can’t legislate for your best players, Tarky & Jarrad, making 3-4 huge errors which kill the game, as they did yesterday.
Take this team out of the rigid shape that it’s in and it’s a certainty to go down. They can’t press. They are the slowest group of players I’ve ever seen, especially in transition. Be careful what you wish for.
With little / no money to spend in January, no manager worth his salt touches Everton. I think we’re better backing the horse that’s already kept us up for the last 2 seasons.
I agree with a lot of this mate but Dyche is done, there’s no coming back from this imo.
I think new manager bounce is probably our only hope now unless we spend in January
@ I can understand fans who want to twist rather than stick in this situation (after all, it’s easier to shift another manager than it is to move on 15+ players - which is what needs to happen in the next 18 months)
I agree with Rodger that this squad is in the 3 worst in the league. In that case, I think Dyche has overperformed for a long time. The Football is dull and uninspiring but I think it has to be to a degree.
Even if you look at the absolute worst teams in the league (Southampton & Ipswich) they at least have pace and creativity in forward and wide areas (Dibling, Fernandes, Archer // Hutchinson, Delap, Szmodics) that affords them the option to play in ways that we simply can’t.
McNeill, Harrison, N’Diaye and Lindstrom in wide areas is as bad as it gets. N’Diaye has a bit more about him than the others but he can’t do it on his own and we rarely get him on the ball in areas he can hurt the opposition anyway, that requires something else we don’t have - legs in midfield.
I have massive sympathy for Dyche because this is how he has always played and we knew that when we hired him. We got exactly what we wished for and he’s delivered to this point. We’re still a Premier League team.
My biggest worry is that we sack him and end up with a Baines or Ferguson in charge till the end of the season because no other manager worth looking at wants it until the summer when they can spend a bit and change things up.
I think this squad is better than were we are in the league. The squad last year (without the deduction) finished above Fulham, Brentford etc and were level with Brighton. The squad is now stronger and has gone backwards, that's definitely on Dyche. For me he has to go, and the sooner the better.
@@dangoodman121 I don’t mean this to sound harsh mate but Isn’t that argument a little unbalanced?
You’ve deduced this squad is better than it is because of where it finished last season but largely the same group only survived on the final day the year before.
Couldn’t it be that Dyche had us overperforming last year and now we’re seeing the true level of the squad? Bottom 5 and circling the drain. That’s a lot more accurate IMO than believing we’re as good as the Brighton’s & Brentfords of the league.
I suspect you’re right and that Dyche will go sooner rather than later but I don’t expect it will prompt an upturn in form (unless we sign 3-4 in January). We might even regret making the change, come the end of the season.
@@dangoodman121 because last season Brentford had massive injuries and this season they don’t.
Last season we had one of the best injury records and now we don’t, it’s that simple really.
If you take Toney, Mbuemo, Wissa etc away from Thomas Frank they’d be struggling for goals just like us.
walker was shite,,,,, Gordon Lee shite
Give me Lee all day over this ted.
@@L11_EFC He blew in final and semi.. Bingham should have stayed
Not sure the squad was better under Lampard after Rafa ripped it to pieces.
Dyche is a terrible manager - said it when he was linked & when he signed & ever since.
The lack of belief in the players comes from not having a decent Coach to give them confidence & tactics to win a game. No player wants to play for a nil-nil.
Lampard had Richarlison and Gordon in attack who we sold for 50-60 million each.
Now we’ve barely even got a forward worth 25 million never mind two of them worth double that.
Why is it only the everton supporters always wanting a new manager you don't hear Ipswich wolves cristal Palace calling for their manager's heads you can only work with the player ability you have not really the best player in the world at Burnley Burnley or now everton
Everton fans saying united were there for the taking with their abomination of a team 😅😅 incredible delusion.
I'm a united fan. we WERE there for the taking. Everton were by far the better team for the first half. 7hag has put us in a rut that'll take a long time to unravel, whereby conceding the first goal makes us crumble and then we spend the remainder of the game failing to break down the opposition. Everton just had to nick the first goal and then dyche tactics of sitting in and defending would have frustrated us all game. We'd have been reduced to that lemon Fernandes taking aimless long shots.
Go ahead, keep on thinking that some teams in the EPL are there for the taking. That lack of respect will get you guys relegated.
AWFULL MANAGER.
Have faith Dyche will be gone when new owners takeover.
Needs to go before then.
UHM ?......He has had probably the` poorest squad under the worst circumstances....
He kept us up last season with that run at the end of the season. Without goals we
will struggle and I would only replace him with a serious winner/motivator. After
December though we may have to gamble on Mourinho or someone.
He got us into that position with 4 months without a win. We've also had much worse squads - early Moyes, Kendall 3, Mike Walker even under Royle were all far worse without even a £10m player (around £40m today) among any. Pickford and Branthwaite alone are probably worth more than those 3 entire squads alone even considering inflation since!
@@niallhussey8023 exactly you’re talking about decades ago mate, most of the league had barely any money back then so we wasn’t outmatched unless it was a top side.
Compare that to now when championship teams are regularly coming up and investing more than us.
@@theblues8840 I mentioned inflation. What two players from any of those squads do you think are on a par with the value of Pickford and Branthwaite relative to the times? I see zero.
@@niallhussey8023 why would an Everton player be worth 50+ million decades ago?
Wayne Rooney was barely worth half of that ffs 🤦♂️
We stayed up DESPITE him.
Sorry lads but the manager is bang on the money when he talks about less possession suiting us.
I know we’d all love to forget what happened yesterday but if we had just lumped it long we wouldn’t have conceded those daft goals.
If Everton try and control the game in possession it always leads to suicide passes/touches that we concede from.
If we played with that logic we’d be like Burnley under Kompany last year or Southampton this year.
A good manager would have us playing better football. End of
@@Daniel_Barton better football is irrelevant when you lack goals in the team.
A new manager won’t make a goalscorer appear out of nowhere, they’ll need investment to buy some goals otherwise winning games in this league will be a problem.
@@theblues8840 Even dull, negative Benitez had us scoring 31 goals in his 22 games. Dyche has us scoring 20 in his last 22 games!
@@niallhussey8023 yeah mate probably because he had Richarlison who was almost guaranteed double figures every season
@theblues8840 I had a look through the results and Richarlison scored 4 goals in those 22 games for Benitez. Dwight McNeil has scored 5 in Dyche's last 22 games. Similar output despite the obvious gulf in class. Where else did Benitez"s other 30 goals from then? Townsend, Gray, Doucoure, Calvert-Lewin, Solomon Rondon, Davies, Gomes, Iwobi, Gordon, Branthwaite and Keane. A full XI of goalscorers with goals coming from everywhere in the team even with a style of play not much worse than Dyche. Those not at the club now aren't much better than current options. Maybe £10m extra value combined