Hey guys I want to apologize, apparently Pained IS in the game in Theramore PRE-CATA. It totally slipped my mind to check pre cata Theramore to confirm this. That's what I get for playing strictly only horde til 6.2 . Sorry for the error!
Yes, so glad you mentioned Vandel, yet I knew you will from the thumbnail. Vandel is the imbodiment of every demon hunter rp player or maybe some of the npc's . He questions Illidan's motives all the time, yet he somehow trusts him. He does not wish to fight the horde or alliance, yet he doesn't have much love for them. And he always has that memory of his son and fammily such he clings to.
That whole questioning he does against Illidan's motives, or any demon hunter role-player, and why he is still trusted by Illidan is because those that do not question are those that have already submitted. And as people who will risk everything to eradicate the Legion, submission is not an option. I mean, Kil-Jaeden and Archimonde never questioned Sargeras when he offered them and Valen power at the cost of their people's future, and look what happened to them. The act of questioning someone is both an act of defiance and cause for reassurance.
Honestly man you're a way better story teller than other wow channels. You're quick, to the point on why this story is interesting, don't sound bored when you're telling it and generally love the lore. keep it up man
You can find the story of: - Lucan Foxblood in Stormrage - Pained in Jaine Proudmoore: Tides of War - Eadrik in Wolfheart - Jevan Grimtotem in The Shattering - Vandel in Illidan
Really disappointing how Stormsong isn't in game at all. That dude saved Baine's life and placed honor above his tribe. AH but its okay, we have a fat gallywix model now.
"Maiev, being Maiev" Oh how _dare_ she be angry after being tortured, starved, PISSED ON, and enchanted so that she couldn't die for YEARS during her time as Illidan's prisoner!
That book was horribly written and should be deleted from canon. Maiev got fucked over by tyrande, then malfurion, then kael thas, and the only one with reason to do so was KT. Tyrande and Malfurion shouldve died long ago
"However near the end of the fight, Maiev teleports behind Vandal and user her glaive to strike directly at Vandal's head." Maiev: "Pssssht...nothing personal kid."
Dang. That last guy is still out there huh? This is actually really exciting! Also! Krucial, you guys are the bomb. Literally. Original WoW fans like myself LOVE this channel. Keep doing what you're doing! You got a subscriber in me!
I'm just waiting for the day that Bolvar breaks from the Frozen Throne and heads to the Broken Isles/Tomb of Sargeras/wherever and personally leads the Scourge against the Burning Legion. He will be no back of the ranks commander, he will be a force of nature in his own right. *A true King of Undeath.* But that's silly, isn't it? Hahahaha, hahahaha, *HAHAHAHA.*
You don't like letting people dream, do you? Yes, they were meant to make it easier. That doesn't mean they can't do massive damage as well, even if it's not defeating them.
haha sorry man that I ruined your dream, wasnt really my intentions, and yes they could do damage but far from much. Most of the scourge would be taken over by the legion from the lich kings grasp.
honestly, i can see that happening but against us instead of the legion. i don't trust him after all these years chilling (pun intended) with ner'zhul. what, you really thought that was terenas that showed up at the end of the arthas fight? ha!
You need to make videos more often dude. I enjoy your top 5/10 videos, as well as your Q&A, story and just general discussion shit. Been here since a long time, keep it up.
Man I really wish that you make a serious that you read wow books in it... You are a really good story teller.. I mean I remember the videos about the black empire that you made long ago and I had tons of fun listening to them and I wished that you keep doing that
I'm a World of Warcraft fan. and I've just finished reading Jaina. While I agree that Pained definitely held her own against both Malk and Baine, I wouldn't go so far to say Pained ALMOST killed Malk. It was pretty even. That aside, I love your vids. Keep up the good work and good luck in your endevours. :D
Just saw a vision/hologram from Vandel in the Demon Hunter class hall, He is on Mardum needs our help, I'll edit this post when i've completed the questchain.
I'm fairly certain Vandel will appear at some point in Legion. The novel ends on a cliffhanger, with him being told by Illidan to "be ready" for his return. Definitely appears to be setup for his eventual in-game appearance. Surprised he hasn't appeared in Legion so far though, so perhaps not. Would be a shame if they set it up only to not follow through though.
Actually Vandel is in the game. After the main DH campaign, you go down to Mardum to kill some demons that are attacking. The norm. But when the leader of the assault at the camp asks for a status report through some sort of magical communication thing, it is Vandel that answers.
another awesome character who has never shown his face was Garrosh Hellscream. he was in WoD but I can't seem to find him anywhere in legion, I think blizz forgot about him. :c
I think that Vandel is or was part of the army of light :P It might even be his job to recruit Anduin and maybe become his new teacher xP I know this is speculation, but think about it, what would be the purpose of a demon hunter who has lost his way either join the legion or fight back, seeing as he is one of the honorable demon hunters he would probably do the latter. And as Velen so often says: "You are never alone, the light is always with you" Hinting that when ever you fight the legion, the light will allways find you. This correlates very well with the founding of the silver hand since paladins had not existed before the original orc invasion bringing the legion. Also with the creation of the order of Elune when the night elves first started using fel magic before the war of the ancients. So by those premises it is very likely that Vandel eventually met the army of light and got recruited. Also he seems to have a neutral but kind view of both the horde and alliance. Giving him the perfect alignment for teaching Anduin that there is essencially no difference between the two. But that their eternal conflict and stride might be what's making them strong together. Also this could be fuel to show Illidan that there is another way to being a demon hunter. Pst pst spoiler alert xD Maybe a naaru possession instead of demonic possesion(Xera wants the merge with illidan xD). Anyhow i think Vandel is a really cool character and think he deserves a really cool spot in some future content :)
I've read the Illidan Novel and I agree that Vandel should be in the game. He did survive and he wouls make a great addition to the game. Maybe once the new 7.2 patch hits and we head to the new Broken Shore areas?
I still not belive the way Blizzard decided to kill Cairn, he's one my favourite since WC3, they just said "cairn is dead" in an intro to the Tauren race, come on! I know there's the books and comics, but not everyone read them and Cairn deserved more than that!
Thanks for the video and you can also add all the blademaster of the horde that are supposed to be the personal guard of the warchief. But I suppose you mean only character and not type of characters and then you had to make a choice for the video not to be too long.
But you know, that Vandel is in-game character of writer of Illidan? He Created him and named after Rogue with Azzinoth Glaves that RP'd as a Demon Hunter. Until Legion.
After watching your video about the saddest storylines (darion and the ashbringer story being the top) I'd really like to see some of those characters come into it. :l even if only holy spirits in the paladin class order hall hah. Maybe Ret paladins could have little artifact quest things like Frost DK's who see the Lich King around the broken isles, they see the previous Ashbringers. :D
isn't pained in old theramore? next to jaina? and i pretty much think taht vandel will be coming, either in this expansion or th enext...but he willl be prepared. Very pleasing video editing btw, glad i found you :)
He shows up during the Illidan Memory questline when you defend Black Rook Hold from the Legion, he's one of the two NPCs you help and later aid you in the final battle - the other being Jarod
wow amazing video! nicely done! also, your voice is so similar to Illidan's at the end, "prepare yourself" hahaha I wanted to ask you tho, where did you get the art? There are some, specially at the beginning, that I would love to save to my drive, do you have links? :D
I'm still so fucking mad about pained dying! also the gnome apprentice of Jaina.. i cried more because of them than any other wow character.. it was heartbreaking
So dissapointed you didn't include Kryll from Day of the Dragon. He was just an ambitious little goblin with no power that managed to fool both the old Horde and Deathwing himself. And at one point had even crafted a plan to make Deathwing his pet, which could have succeded if he hadn't gotten killed.
Hey guys I want to apologize, apparently Pained IS in the game in Theramore PRE-CATA. It totally slipped my mind to check pre cata Theramore to confirm this. That's what I get for playing strictly only horde til 6.2 . Sorry for the error!
Ah, was about to comment on that, nice job^^
was thinking that as you were saying it - so who else would you have for number 4??
acutally, think i answered my own question.......Sargaras hasnt been in the game yet has he??
I don't think so
vandel is coming in patch 7.2
Yes, so glad you mentioned Vandel, yet I knew you will from the thumbnail.
Vandel is the imbodiment of every demon hunter rp player or maybe some of the npc's . He questions Illidan's motives all the time, yet he somehow trusts him. He does not wish to fight the horde or alliance, yet he doesn't have much love for them. And he always has that memory of his son and fammily such he clings to.
That whole questioning he does against Illidan's motives, or any demon hunter role-player, and why he is still trusted by Illidan is because those that do not question are those that have already submitted. And as people who will risk everything to eradicate the Legion, submission is not an option. I mean, Kil-Jaeden and Archimonde never questioned Sargeras when he offered them and Valen power at the cost of their people's future, and look what happened to them. The act of questioning someone is both an act of defiance and cause for reassurance.
*teleports behind Vandel*
Nothing personal, kid.
Vandel fell to her blade; a moment of silence, another guard fallen during thot patrol
EJ Red he's still alive he will also appear in the dh campaign in 7.2
I was actually expecting to see Foxblood in the Nightmare raid, but well, lets just say that the Nightmare seemed far more impressive in the novels.
7:13 missed a possible pun there "Vandel however, was not prepared"
Honestly man you're a way better story teller than other wow channels. You're quick, to the point on why this story is interesting, don't sound bored when you're telling it and generally love the lore. keep it up man
Thanks Mograine, means a lot to hear from a viewer :)
Nobbel is one of the best story tellers as well :)
I wouldn't count out Madseason show, he and Nobbel are my favourite.
WOOOOOOOO VANDEL! Im a huge Vandel fan, hope he gets into the game
Alejandro Zuñiga If you don't mind spoilers for 7.2, go look at the DH order hall campaign that's coming in 7.2.
Ohhhh there he is!
Just saw his appearance; his attire does look ridiculous but I like the idea they're going for
They changed his model. The red clothes one was just a placeholder
really ???? thanks for the info man you made my day ^^
Something tells me Pained found Jaina a little more than a friend if she refused to visit her people in favor of her and the humans company
9:32
**teleports behind you**
"Nothing personal, DH"
even after editing you spelled ''personal'' wrong.
Cow King look it up on google
PM me Pepes ok fixed are you not triggered now
sorry wrong reply
You can find the story of:
- Lucan Foxblood in Stormrage
- Pained in Jaine Proudmoore: Tides of War
- Eadrik in Wolfheart
- Jevan Grimtotem in The Shattering
- Vandel in Illidan
Really disappointing how Stormsong isn't in game at all. That dude saved Baine's life and placed honor above his tribe. AH but its okay, we have a fat gallywix model now.
also vandel :((
It's ok! Vandel at least, will be added into the game in 7.2. So just wait a lil longer!
OMG SRSLY?!
thats great will find the source that say it
He showed up in demon hunter campaign on the ptr. I was excited to see him at first but he didn't really do anything and I hated his voice :/
"Maiev, being Maiev" Oh how _dare_ she be angry after being tortured, starved, PISSED ON, and enchanted so that she couldn't die for YEARS during her time as Illidan's prisoner!
An alternative title for this video is: Maiev Shadowsong is a bitch
Considering she has tried to kill Malfurion, Tyrande, and her own brother, I agree.
That book was horribly written and should be deleted from canon. Maiev got fucked over by tyrande, then malfurion, then kael thas, and the only one with reason to do so was KT. Tyrande and Malfurion shouldve died long ago
She is a monster for not automatically trusting demon infused murderers. /S
Pained was in Jainas tower in Theramore prior to cata
Ah damned you're right, it slipped my mind to check pre cata Theramore. Damn, thank you for the correction though
Yeah, I remember her. I always wondered what her deal was anyway.
No worries man, still a great video. Keep it up!
браво Ванка, хвана го
She is still there, quested there on lowbie last week and she is there
I was so happy to see Vandel in Legion, I always wondered what happened to him after reading the Illidan book.
You have a really good story telling voice! The whisper at 3:27 was spot on too
I think in 7.2 vandal makes an appearance
He does but i don't think he will have any major role.
He does not
He does appear!
Gotta have me a good lasagna He does, check Wowpedia.
he does
Vandal: I am not yout enemy Maiev. I onlly work fot the Guy that Kill all your friends and tortue you
"However near the end of the fight, Maiev teleports behind Vandal and user her glaive to strike directly at Vandal's head."
Maiev: "Pssssht...nothing personal kid."
Pained is in the game and has been since Vanilla. She's in the Theramore tower right next to Jaina.
They should put Thrall in the game, that would be really cool. Also this Krucial guy should make a youtube channel
Glob thrall is in The game dummy
David Norberg your reflexes are too fast. nothing goes over your head.
You can see thrall 3 Times in burning crusade ( in hyjal, in orgrimmar and in nagrand
Two were successfully trolled xD
I know it was a troll but i just wanted to say that
OHHH MY BOY VANDEL. I read the book btw.
Dang. That last guy is still out there huh? This is actually really exciting!
Also! Krucial, you guys are the bomb. Literally. Original WoW fans like myself LOVE this channel. Keep doing what you're doing! You got a subscriber in me!
I just finished reading Illidan. Vandel needs to be in the game :(
Lucan Foxblood sounds like such a unique character. Thanks a bunch for bringing this guy to my attention!
Maybe we'll see Vandel now in Legion. He'll could be a wonderfull champion for the Illidari.
I'm just waiting for the day that Bolvar breaks from the Frozen Throne and heads to the Broken Isles/Tomb of Sargeras/wherever and personally leads the Scourge against the Burning Legion. He will be no back of the ranks commander, he will be a force of nature in his own right.
*A true King of Undeath.*
But that's silly, isn't it?
Hahahaha, hahahaha, *HAHAHAHA.*
Christian Plante the thing is that the scourge can never defeat the legion. They where only supposed to make the arrival of the legion easier
You don't like letting people dream, do you?
Yes, they were meant to make it easier. That doesn't mean they can't do massive damage as well, even if it's not defeating them.
haha sorry man that I ruined your dream, wasnt really my intentions, and yes they could do damage but far from much. Most of the scourge would be taken over by the legion from the lich kings grasp.
honestly, i can see that happening but against us instead of the legion. i don't trust him after all these years chilling (pun intended) with ner'zhul. what, you really thought that was terenas that showed up at the end of the arthas fight? ha!
@Azertone We don't know that for sure. The Lich King's hold over the scourge was strong enough to keep Yogg-Saron from taking over.
Maiev teleports behind vandel and whispers "nothing personal kid"
About Vandel on the Wowpedia page: - - Patch 7.2.0 (PTR): Added.
What an absolutely great ending to a video, Krucial! Spinethrilling! The words and the music was on point.
I don't even play WOW, but I loved that book with Jared and Edrik. It was a great story!
i really liked this video, not many people have done videos on character most people, who arent lore buffs, know about! more like this please!
Dude... Vandel is a one badass character... Wish he was in wow like he was in the novel " Illidan "
You need to make videos more often dude. I enjoy your top 5/10 videos, as well as your Q&A, story and just general discussion shit. Been here since a long time, keep it up.
*teleports behind Vandel*
..Nothing personal, kid.
I realy love your videos mate, the way you tell the story and end the video with such epic music is awesome!!
Lucan was the first came to my mind when I clicked the link to your video.
Man I really wish that you make a serious that you read wow books in it... You are a really good story teller.. I mean I remember the videos about the black empire that you made long ago and I had tons of fun listening to them and I wished that you keep doing that
oh my god... THTS WHAT MIEV MEANT WHEN SHE SAID 'i almost killed you brother' I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!
Whoah...okay we really need to see Vandel now!
The Epicness just striked me down! I wasn't prepared!!!
I'm a World of Warcraft fan. and I've just finished reading Jaina.
While I agree that Pained definitely held her own against both Malk and Baine, I wouldn't go so far to say Pained ALMOST killed Malk. It was pretty even.
That aside, I love your vids. Keep up the good work and good luck in your endevours. :D
The burning Legion is only a small fish according to the Naaru elder, who talked to Illidan.
Just saw a vision/hologram from Vandel in the Demon Hunter class hall, He is on Mardum needs our help, I'll edit this post when i've completed the questchain.
I'm fairly certain Vandel will appear at some point in Legion. The novel ends on a cliffhanger, with him being told by Illidan to "be ready" for his return. Definitely appears to be setup for his eventual in-game appearance. Surprised he hasn't appeared in Legion so far though, so perhaps not. Would be a shame if they set it up only to not follow through though.
this is a must watch for any WoW fan.
Actually Vandel is in the game. After the main DH campaign, you go down to Mardum to kill some demons that are attacking. The norm. But when the leader of the assault at the camp asks for a status report through some sort of magical communication thing, it is Vandel that answers.
I think..
Vandel is in game though. He is on Mardun during 7.2 and the questline to aquire the Felbat Demon Hunter mount.
another awesome character who has never shown his face was Garrosh Hellscream. he was in WoD but I can't seem to find him anywhere in legion, I think blizz forgot about him. :c
I want Foxblood armor on my Paladin
Btw Vandel is in the game when the demon-hunters are recruting a new champion in the broken shore questline
I think that Vandel is or was part of the army of light :P It might even be his job to recruit Anduin and maybe become his new teacher xP I know this is speculation, but think about it, what would be the purpose of a demon hunter who has lost his way either join the legion or fight back, seeing as he is one of the honorable demon hunters he would probably do the latter. And as Velen so often says: "You are never alone, the light is always with you" Hinting that when ever you fight the legion, the light will allways find you. This correlates very well with the founding of the silver hand since paladins had not existed before the original orc invasion bringing the legion. Also with the creation of the order of Elune when the night elves first started using fel magic before the war of the ancients. So by those premises it is very likely that Vandel eventually met the army of light and got recruited. Also he seems to have a neutral but kind view of both the horde and alliance. Giving him the perfect alignment for teaching Anduin that there is essencially no difference between the two. But that their eternal conflict and stride might be what's making them strong together. Also this could be fuel to show Illidan that there is another way to being a demon hunter. Pst pst spoiler alert xD Maybe a naaru possession instead of demonic possesion(Xera wants the merge with illidan xD).
Anyhow i think Vandel is a really cool character and think he deserves a really cool spot in some future content :)
Does that mean Broxxigar is in the game :o
Maiev just can't get enough of Illidan's D.
*teleports behind you
Maiev: Pshh, nothin personal kid
I've read the Illidan Novel and I agree that Vandel should be in the game. He did survive and he wouls make a great addition to the game. Maybe once the new 7.2 patch hits and we head to the new Broken Shore areas?
I still not belive the way Blizzard decided to kill Cairn, he's one my favourite since WC3, they just said "cairn is dead" in an intro to the Tauren race, come on! I know there's the books and comics, but not everyone read them and Cairn deserved more than that!
I don't play WoW, but this is some good shit here. Keep it up. :)
Thanks for the video and you can also add all the blademaster of the horde that are supposed to be the personal guard of the warchief. But I suppose you mean only character and not type of characters and then you had to make a choice for the video not to be too long.
But you know, that Vandel is in-game character of writer of Illidan? He Created him and named after Rogue with Azzinoth Glaves that RP'd as a Demon Hunter. Until Legion.
You should do more videos like these, there are so many cool characters in lore that are not shown in the games.
After watching your video about the saddest storylines (darion and the ashbringer story being the top) I'd really like to see some of those characters come into it. :l even if only holy spirits in the paladin class order hall hah. Maybe Ret paladins could have little artifact quest things like Frost DK's who see the Lich King around the broken isles, they see the previous Ashbringers. :D
Lok'tar
R.I.P Unnamed Orc
isn't pained in old theramore? next to jaina? and i pretty much think taht vandel will be coming, either in this expansion or th enext...but he willl be prepared. Very pleasing video editing btw, glad i found you :)
Im violently upset Broxxigar isnt in this video
Broxx is in the game.
John Smith where?
I saw him during several quests during cataclysm (?)
He shows up during the Illidan Memory questline when you defend Black Rook Hold from the Legion, he's one of the two NPCs you help and later aid you in the final battle - the other being Jarod
Broxxigar appears in WoW durning the Ilidan quest. You can see him on the Black Rook Hold
Koak and Ten. Those also need to be in game.
Can't believe Alleria isn't on this list.
another evidence why Illidian's brother is the biggest threat of entire WoW
Pained was shown in game. She was in Theramore at least during Cata
Very cool stuff as usual. Very interesting to hear about these characters. Also gives me more reason to not trust the Wardens lol
Great video Krucial, but Pained appeared in-game, ast Jaina's side on Theramore but, as far as I know, she did nothing!
I WANT VANDEL IN GAME SO BAD >.< They have missed so many opportunities with him already... I hope we see him soon.
What’s the name of the song that was playing at the end of this video it’s so epic?😍
Vandel is in the PTR for 7.2 DH class hall campaign. Don't know if anyone has said this yet.
Eggcellent work dude, keep it up!
And even though Cairne is now dead and the Bloodtotem abandoned Magatha, she's now at our side and watching over the powerful Doomstone...like what?
Dont forget the blacktooth grin orc clan, they have yet to be defeated too!
Ever since warcraft 2
man, your work is awesome !!!
keep it up !
Loved the vid you should totally do more!!
wow amazing video! nicely done! also, your voice is so similar to Illidan's at the end, "prepare yourself" hahaha
I wanted to ask you tho, where did you get the art? There are some, specially at the beginning, that I would love to save to my drive, do you have links? :D
I'm still so fucking mad about pained dying! also the gnome apprentice of Jaina.. i cried more because of them than any other wow character.. it was heartbreaking
Was hoping you would mention Trade Prince Ratso Steamwheedle ^^
We need more on Vandel!
i want Maiev's gear as Transmog E_E
The Warcraft Bible used to do top 5 videos.
yeah until he got called out for stealing almost everything he did.
Razus 33 *plagiarism
Actually, in 7.2 Vandel is in the game, and he's part of the new demon hunter campaign.
So dissapointed you didn't include Kryll from Day of the Dragon. He was just an ambitious little goblin with no power that managed to fool both the old Horde and Deathwing himself. And at one point had even crafted a plan to make Deathwing his pet, which could have succeded if he hadn't gotten killed.
That sounds...Amazing :>
Imagine Deathwing the greatest Aspect of Earth being a Goblin's bitch :>
Ikr, it would have been the ultimate irony. It was the fact that everyone underestimated him that made him so dangerous.
Pained was in classic Theramore. Go back in time with Zidormi
I personally don't really like Alliance and prefer Horde over it but damn, Eadrik the Worgen is a badass.
Blizzard should watch this
Out of all of them I think Vandel has the best chance of being brought into game.
2nd - just a night elf wanting to be close to arcane magic - their natural habitat - banned by their coup d'etat government
@ Krucial where did you get the reference from when you said "Maiv Shadowsong is one of the best melee fighters in warcraft history"
Vandel is in the 7.2 DH class hall campaign. o-o
I have read somewhere that Vandel is not canonical character. William King just create Vandel as character in book by his own
Forms he appears in 7.2 just fyi
Cinderpelt oh well. So I'm glad cuz of it ;)
maybe there is still a chance for seeing Vandel
Vandel makes an appearance in 7.2 in demon hunter class campaing
I miss Samuro from the list
We dont know if he's still alive but he could return and warriors should get blademaster as 4th spec
Vandel is not the first demon hunter as when he first entered the black temple he was greeted by two demon hunters whose names escape me
vandal is in a very short part in the demon Hunters questline.