Honestly driving a 2011 legacy which is awd and has almost the same power as this kia, you really dont need any more power for a daily. Personally i would rather have something like 200-300hp as a daily because thats not "slow" and it is going to be MUCH cheaper to maintain. Brembos are not cheap as well as double turbos vs 1 turbo... smaller wheels on the stinger base= cheaper tires. Im sure at the time where both of these cars start to die, the gt version would easily have double the cost of ownership as the premium. And insurance... its not cheap for higher hp cars and all those safety sensors in the bumpers...
@@macaron3141592653 WORD. I had a GT1 when it first came out; my insurance skyrocketed from my VW GTI (40, single, PERFECT driving record) and the fuel economy was atrocious. The extra expenses werent worth it to me, so I traded down to a GT-Line with the 2.0 engine this year. I'm perfectly fine with the performance and drive of this engine, and my insurance is back down to normal haha, and my gas mileage is way better. I also don't have to worry about the long term maintenance of replacing the larger tires or them fancy Brembos.
My preference and idea of what Kia should have done with the Stinger, other than offer a manual transmission, would be to put the naturally aspirated v6 in it. That would have helped to keep the cost down and provided an excellent motor option.
I just went to Kia USA and Honda USA websites and configured comparable Stinger 2L and Accord 2L. The Kia comes out to $40 450, while the Honda rings in at $38 502. I think they're both great cars, but the Stinger will undoubtedly be more engaging to drive, since it's RWD and generally a sportier car. I think if I were looking at a full spec 4 door sedan in this price range, the Stinger would get my money!
Good review. Having owned two Kia Sorentos, the current one being a 2018 SX-L model, I'm sold on the brand. I test drove both the GT and the 2.0 Turbo. As you note, the 2.0T is a fine choice with plenty of power. And the RWD dynamic is a big plus. But if one is considering it, here's some advice. Don't drive the GT or GT2 versions. Driving one back to back with the 2.0 T makes the latter pale in comparison. Furthermore, the hatchback design of the KIA is a plus but once the Stinger is equipped to match the Accord 2.0T Touring or the Mazda 6 Signature, the price of the KIA gets close to that of the base GT model and well above that of the Honda or Mazda. I considered all three along with the Camry V6 XSE. Ultimately, my choice was to replace my 2013 GTI Autobahn with a 2018 version at nearly $6000 off MSRP. Just couldn't stand the thought on not having a GTI in the garage.
I think Stinger base is the sweet spot when you get RWD base with good negotiation. Stinger base can be had less than 30k RWD with leather. With 100k warranty this CD ar seems better deal than accord 2.0t, Camry v6.
Yeah - Im just coming to that conclusion as well. Ive been shopping the usual suspects (Accord, 6, Camry), but i think this might be the perfect car for me.
For 2019 u can add sunroof, led headlights, nav, and upgraded stereo for $3k to the base model. So that’s almost everything Soyfan wanted on the base model.
To basic. In Europe and the Middle East, you can get the 2.0 Turbo Stinger in high specification guise with pretty much the same equipment as the 3.3 GT2. Dunno why they don’t do this for the US market.
Honestly im fine with it being a little cheaper. Its about time we get rwd and awd long wheelbase hatches for decent prices. This is literally in a class on its own and its my next go to car. I have a 2011 subaru legacy and it has almost the same power as the premium stinger however the stinger gets better mileage and the hatch is super beneficial. I would stay with subaru as my next car but they dont make any 250+ hp hatches anymore and i dont want an outback. I dont need the ground clearance and worse handling.
I have not seen a 2.0T on the road ever. I have seen a few Stinger GTs even in my small city. 32K is starting but a loaded premium 2.0T with awd is almost 40K and some dealers are discounting RWD GT and GT1s to the same price that's why customers rather go for it.
I test drove both the 2.0T and the GT model last month. Ended up leasing a GT1 despite it being a bit above my price range. The 2.0T is GREAT, but at that price point I felt I'd rather have the new Mazda6 or Accord 2.0T. Lots more features and luxury for a lower price, with the same if not better performance. The Stinger definitely looks the nicest though. The GT trim just makes driving so much more enjoyable. It's not a light car, so I felt like the 2.0T wasn't quite enough to earn the sporty look.
Motoman created a video talking about the base 2L Stinger that was interesting. The base Stinger is surprisingly well equipped (smart key, android auto, leather heated seats, etc) and still makes competitive power. The EX-L 2L Accord is the same price as the base Stinger. It costs nearly $6,000 more for the 3.3L which includes LED headlights and 19in wheels, but not much else. Is the $6K worth it?
I mean if you think about it not many turbo 4s rev nearly as high as this one. I personally think this is the best sounding 2.0t in the compact luxury sedan segment.🤷♂️
Watched the video again, based on my test drive of the 2.0T premium with the Bridgestones tires, these Michelins make the interior sound quieter. Let's hope they ship the new ones with Michelins instead. Love the 3.3T but don't need all that power. I might end up getting the GT though as it is fun. I see there are mods being made for both engines to boost the power. Decisions, decisions.
I’m really impressed with Kia. I like the fact that it reminds me of a Porsche Panamera in every trim ,and I would definitely choose this car if I wasn’t so much into Honda. The only thing that’s missing on this car is a sunroof or a Panoramic sunroof.
I've seen several Stingers in the wild here in SoCal, and every single one has been a GT. While still a good car in base form, the general consensus from people considering the car is to just go for the GT, myself included. If I couldn't get the GT I'd probably opt for a Cadenza or Avalon.
I’ve seen CPO Guilia’s under 35k loaded around the Tampa FL area. I like the Kia, but until more CPOs show up the Guilia is a way better deal and more for your money. This thing at $20k would be a lot of fun. Throw a tune and bolt ons and have a quick fun sedan
Nice review as usual! Looks like this car has Michelin tires on it and the interior noise didn’t seem too loud. Tested a 2.0 premium and the tire noise was annoying, didn’t even bother with doing a full drive due to that. I hope the replace the tires and make the interior quieter for 2019. What’s your take on the interior noise? Which Michelin tires were on that car?
Just wanted to correct one thing, the 2.0T does have it to where you can pump engine noise through the cabin and it is also variable. At least the premium does. Not sure about the base model. I’m assuming it doesn’t since yours did not. I love my premium though. Greatest car I’ve ever owned by far. Will be getting the GT 2 next. Can’t wait.
Lavonte A I honestly don't know if they have turbo engines in those model years but if they do I'm pretty sure the powers is less. The newer optimas 16-18 make 245. I think the base stinger does as well with more torque
Hello, Did you have a chance to see how the LKA works? Does it keep you centered in the lane or just bring you back when you cross or about to cross the line?
I test drove the V6 and was very impressed. The only thing that will prevent me from buying one is that it has too many doors. So Kia, where's the coupe to compete with the Germans?
I don’t think comparing it to a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry is fair. This car’s competitors are VW Arteon and Audi A5. When viewed in this company, the Stinger is an absolute bargain. One of the best features, a full size spare tire with matching wheel.
The Stinger in this base model seems like a pretty solid vehicle, but I wish there were a few exterior design features that they would alter in future model years. For example, I wish they would add LED headlights as STANDARD equipment, offer more attractive (less basic looking rims) on the base model, and possibly offer a performance appearance package for those who don't want to step all the way up to the GT models but still want more sporty and aggressive styling. That blue color really pops, though! It reminds me of the Electric Blue color that Hyundai offers on the Elantra. Nevertheless, from one car reviewer to another, great review, Sofyan!
Love the colour!!!! Suits the car very well. I think the 2.0T model is a better all-rounder than the GT, you loose little plus decent fuel economy and lower price point.
Sofyan, redline reviews, which would you choose, Top trims... A CPO Audi A7 prestige, or a new VW Arteon SEL Premium R line AWD, or a new Stinger GT2 AWD?
coming back to this review now that you've tested the new Mazda 6 turbo, how do they compare? Which is the more engaging and sporty to drive? thank you
longbowdt I was considering the 2. Test drove a 2018 Stinger Premium AWD and a Mazda6 GT Reserve. I’ve wanted a Mazda6 for years but was underwhelmed by it. I bought the Stinger and love it. And people ask me “what kind of car is that???”
I don't get why all reviewers are following the manufacture specs and saying the acceleration from 0 to 60 is 6 sec for the 2.0t, this trim has been tested and it needs over 7 sec to reach 60 which is a big difference! check pdrivetv video for proof.
Deshawn Saunders Yeah the side vents seem a little over the top as well. I just wish the whole car was as classy as the rear end. Both the hood and side vents look cheap imo.
Isaias Villa maybe so. To me they look good. And the ones on the side and front are fully functional. Loving my Stinger GT1. Comfort AND speed, who’s not gonna love that?
Brian Vtec The stinger strikes me as one of those cars most people think is cool but if you ask them if they would buy one they’ll probably say no. Kind of like Saab’s were actually. Cool cars that no one really wanted to buy.
These vehicles ARE AFFORDABLE. Just bought a 2018 Stinger Premium fully loaded (MSRP $40,000) for $33,683 out-the-door. Check around. There are deals out there.
The extra $4200 is for the AWD system and the Safety system plus some other options for $37k. Some folks don’t want a sunroof or the NAV system so they would be fine with that. Folks tend to forget this car competes with the A5 Sportback, 4 Series GC, MB 4 door coupe, etc.. You can’t get one of the others in base form for that price. While folks are thinking KIA of old, KIA is making strides to target the luxury market as they have proven they got the goods to compete with Toyota, Nissan, etc.. KIA/Hyundai hired folks to take them to the next level in design and performance. They already proved their vehicles will last with their warranty. Now they need to improve the dealer experience to make the overall brand experience great. Their prices are going to increase as they add higher performing products.
Quite surprised you didn't mention the A5 when you said there is nothing like this. I think if you spec it out similarly, it's hard to justify getting the Stinger. For about $5k more, I'd rather get the Audi interior and fit / finish. What do you think?
Jim Lee...You're right. The A5 is a competitor for the Stinger. But it's a lot more than 5K bro! I just configured the 2L prestige model and added the features that come on the Stinger. It's 57K! That's about five grand more than the fully loaded GT2 model Stinger, which blows this Audi away performance wise. Kia makes a pretty intriguing choice.
Jim Lee While the A5 Sportback is indeed a competitor, the price difference is considerably more once you option it up to match the Stinger’s equipment. For a moderately equipped premium plus trim, you could get a Stinger GT2 and at that point, for $50,000 we would. The interior fit and finish is not far behind the Audi at all, and what the Audi really gives you is the virtual cockpit display and a quick shifting dual clutch transmission. The Kia is actually more fun to drive in the corners and gives you that rear drive handling dynamic.
John Holst but would you say that the options match up like for like? I've owned two prior Hyundais, and found the build quality to be still lacking. I'm not talking about fit or that it breaks, but the depth of quality being not as good. Savagegeese did a video on the Stinger and showed that it rattles and creaks (which I experienced in my 06 sonata and 12 Tucson). Stuff that is a hassle for them to fix under warranty, but doesn't happen to experienced luxury makers. Which would you rather buy at $46k? A Stinger AWD or 1 year old Audi with 8k miles and a few less options, but everything you need. That's my conundrum. I think I'm 3 years the Stinger appeal will fade but the audi will still have its luster.
Jenn Ravenwing That is correct, Kia heard complaints about the lack of color choices and are responding. Looks like they haven’t updated their site to reflect this yet.
When available, a review of the Genesis G70 should be interesting. It takes the same basic 4 cylinder engine and pairs it with a manual transmission and rear wheel drive.
Half of the people who complain about this car can’t even afford it. But this is legit a beautiful car and Kia is killing it
Jaxx Vega i bet half the people who complain know better quality this car in person looks very cheap looking.
Gary Iacona cheap looking compared to what?
Jaxx Vega the car creaks and is not a very good chassis for a new car today. Kia junk!
Norm T typical 90s hater.
Norm T says the person talking out of their ass
“Go for the 6 since the price difference isn’t much”.
Take your journalist blinders off. The price difference is $6495 or 20%, hardly a small jump.
You also get a huge hit in fuel economy and probably insurance
Honestly driving a 2011 legacy which is awd and has almost the same power as this kia, you really dont need any more power for a daily. Personally i would rather have something like 200-300hp as a daily because thats not "slow" and it is going to be MUCH cheaper to maintain. Brembos are not cheap as well as double turbos vs 1 turbo... smaller wheels on the stinger base= cheaper tires. Im sure at the time where both of these cars start to die, the gt version would easily have double the cost of ownership as the premium. And insurance... its not cheap for higher hp cars and all those safety sensors in the bumpers...
@@macaron3141592653 WORD. I had a GT1 when it first came out; my insurance skyrocketed from my VW GTI (40, single, PERFECT driving record) and the fuel economy was atrocious. The extra expenses werent worth it to me, so I traded down to a GT-Line with the 2.0 engine this year. I'm perfectly fine with the performance and drive of this engine, and my insurance is back down to normal haha, and my gas mileage is way better. I also don't have to worry about the long term maintenance of replacing the larger tires or them fancy Brembos.
i realize it's kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good place to stream new tv shows online ?
@Shane Azariah Lately I have been using FlixZone. Just google for it :)
Kia is current offering some incredible rebates on the base models. 26K for a 2.0T RWD sportback sedan is pretty damn good in my opinion.
My preference and idea of what Kia should have done with the Stinger, other than offer a manual transmission, would be to put the naturally aspirated v6 in it. That would have helped to keep the cost down and provided an excellent motor option.
I just went to Kia USA and Honda USA websites and configured comparable Stinger 2L and Accord 2L. The Kia comes out to $40 450, while the Honda rings in at $38 502. I think they're both great cars, but the Stinger will undoubtedly be more engaging to drive, since it's RWD and generally a sportier car. I think if I were looking at a full spec 4 door sedan in this price range, the Stinger would get my money!
Good review. Having owned two Kia Sorentos, the current one being a 2018 SX-L model, I'm sold on the brand. I test drove both the GT and the 2.0 Turbo. As you note, the 2.0T is a fine choice with plenty of power. And the RWD dynamic is a big plus. But if one is considering it, here's some advice. Don't drive the GT or GT2 versions. Driving one back to back with the 2.0 T makes the latter pale in comparison. Furthermore, the hatchback design of the KIA is a plus but once the Stinger is equipped to match the Accord 2.0T Touring or the Mazda 6 Signature, the price of the KIA gets close to that of the base GT model and well above that of the Honda or Mazda.
I considered all three along with the Camry V6 XSE. Ultimately, my choice was to replace my 2013 GTI Autobahn with a 2018 version at nearly $6000 off MSRP. Just couldn't stand the thought on not having a GTI in the garage.
Stephen Hendricks very helpful
I think Stinger base is the sweet spot when you get RWD base with good negotiation. Stinger base can be had less than 30k RWD with leather.
With 100k warranty this CD ar seems better deal than accord 2.0t, Camry v6.
Yeah - Im just coming to that conclusion as well. Ive been shopping the usual suspects (Accord, 6, Camry), but i think this might be the perfect car for me.
you can get the rwd base for 26k in some places now that they are trying to get rid of the 2019s
Just bought a 2019 stinger premium, absolutely love it
Does it feel slow off the line for you ? I feel like the system cuts alot of power if you floor it from a stop .
For 2019 u can add sunroof, led headlights, nav, and upgraded stereo for $3k to the base model. So that’s almost everything Soyfan wanted on the base model.
To basic. In Europe and the Middle East, you can get the 2.0 Turbo Stinger in high specification guise with pretty much the same equipment as the 3.3 GT2. Dunno why they don’t do this for the US market.
GTIGolf’18 You can get some upgrades with the Premium trim like LED headlights & the upgraded Harmon/Kardon audio system among other upgrades
I know the US spec is messed up for sure. I will be sticking with the genesis g70 because it cuts less corners than the kia.
The base model headlights look sooooo cheap
Sure, but it's a base model Kia vehicle
Honestly im fine with it being a little cheaper. Its about time we get rwd and awd long wheelbase hatches for decent prices. This is literally in a class on its own and its my next go to car. I have a 2011 subaru legacy and it has almost the same power as the premium stinger however the stinger gets better mileage and the hatch is super beneficial. I would stay with subaru as my next car but they dont make any 250+ hp hatches anymore and i dont want an outback. I dont need the ground clearance and worse handling.
Great review as usual, Sofyan!
Senat Abazi This is a go-to when the car being reviewed sucks?
Just got a awd premium for 25k so pumped!
I have not seen a 2.0T on the road ever. I have seen a few Stinger GTs even in my small city. 32K is starting but a loaded premium 2.0T with awd is almost 40K and some dealers are discounting RWD GT and GT1s to the same price that's why customers rather go for it.
Keep it up man best reviews on the web.
Seriously a beast of a car! Never would expect it from Kia! Amazing review, Sofyan! You are the inspiration for my channel!
I keep telling people but you can convince fools. If they actually went and test drove this car Honda and Toyota wouldnt sell many Accords and Camry's
I test drove both the 2.0T and the GT model last month. Ended up leasing a GT1 despite it being a bit above my price range.
The 2.0T is GREAT, but at that price point I felt I'd rather have the new Mazda6 or Accord 2.0T. Lots more features and luxury for a lower price, with the same if not better performance. The Stinger definitely looks the nicest though.
The GT trim just makes driving so much more enjoyable. It's not a light car, so I felt like the 2.0T wasn't quite enough to earn the sporty look.
How do you still feel about the choice you made?
... And between the Mazda6 and the Accord, which would you have picked?
Motoman created a video talking about the base 2L Stinger that was interesting. The base Stinger is surprisingly well equipped (smart key, android auto, leather heated seats, etc) and still makes competitive power. The EX-L 2L Accord is the same price as the base Stinger. It costs nearly $6,000 more for the 3.3L which includes LED headlights and 19in wheels, but not much else. Is the $6K worth it?
I mean if you think about it not many turbo 4s rev nearly as high as this one. I personally think this is the best sounding 2.0t in the compact luxury sedan segment.🤷♂️
Watched the video again, based on my test drive of the 2.0T premium with the Bridgestones tires, these Michelins make the interior sound quieter. Let's hope they ship the new ones with Michelins instead. Love the 3.3T but don't need all that power. I might end up getting the GT though as it is fun. I see there are mods being made for both engines to boost the power. Decisions, decisions.
I’m really impressed with Kia. I like the fact that it reminds me of a Porsche Panamera in every trim ,and I would definitely choose this car if I wasn’t so much into Honda. The only thing that’s missing on this car is a sunroof or a Panoramic sunroof.
I've seen several Stingers in the wild here in SoCal, and every single one has been a GT. While still a good car in base form, the general consensus from people considering the car is to just go for the GT, myself included. If I couldn't get the GT I'd probably opt for a Cadenza or Avalon.
i have the 18 accord idk if i should go for this avalon or hyundai azera which isn’t sold i’m North America
I think the best one is the base 3.3t! I think it's right around 40k n pretty well equiped!
Very good job. Thank you. Buying a 2019 Stinger Premium.
6:05 $42,000 is only $3,000 more than a fully loaded 18 Camry
I’ve seen CPO Guilia’s under 35k loaded around the Tampa FL area. I like the Kia, but until more CPOs show up the Guilia is a way better deal and more for your money. This thing at $20k would be a lot of fun. Throw a tune and bolt ons and have a quick fun sedan
Brandon L yes the 2.0 used will probably be 20k and the used 3.3 should run about 26-27k.
Brandon L the Alfa Romeo looks so much better for the money.
Just bought mine 2 weeks ago! Couldn't wait for the review, sorry :p
Nice review as usual! Looks like this car has Michelin tires on it and the interior noise didn’t seem too loud. Tested a 2.0 premium and the tire noise was annoying, didn’t even bother with doing a full drive due to that. I hope the replace the tires and make the interior quieter for 2019. What’s your take on the interior noise? Which Michelin tires were on that car?
Just wanted to correct one thing, the 2.0T does have it to where you can pump engine noise through the cabin and it is also variable.
At least the premium does. Not sure about the base model. I’m assuming it doesn’t since yours did not.
I love my premium though. Greatest car I’ve ever owned by far. Will be getting the GT 2 next. Can’t wait.
Kia Stinger... Audi/Mercedes styled interior, BMW driving feel, Maserati looks. Premium German sports sedan price.
Any plans to review the 2018 BMW 430i x-drive or A5 sportback with the stinger? Thanks!
At 6:20 in the video I noticed Lane keeping assist. I have a base model and I’ve never seen it on mine. Did you get it added?
Any plans to do a 2018 Mazda6 review?
Unchainedmaple888 Mazda is dropping off the car this Friday!
Redline Reviews I'm predicting complaints of the dated key fob and the lack of car play and auto lol
Uyoku Dantai It has that now
@Brian also the sound of the door when closing, and if its aging well.
victor rosario "the door sounds nice and solid, this is still a relatively modern platform"
If I trade in my 2015 Optima Sx-Limited I might get the Singer 2.0t premium or another Optima.
Lavonte A get the stinger
Lavonte A def get the Stinger
If you do, just do top of the line stinger or 2.0 optima. I have that and have everything the base doesn't for a lot less
Jenn Ravenwing Does the 2011-2015 Optima equipped with the 2.0T makes more power than the Stinger?
Lavonte A I honestly don't know if they have turbo engines in those model years but if they do I'm pretty sure the powers is less. The newer optimas 16-18 make 245. I think the base stinger does as well with more torque
WRX alert at 7:55 drivers side window. You’re welcome. 😂
Yay! getting the new 2.5T engine.
I wish it was more 1) fuel efficient 2) lighter curb-weight
looks like the engine is longitudinally mounted, that's cool.
Hello, Did you have a chance to see how the LKA works? Does it keep you centered in the lane or just bring you back when you cross or about to cross the line?
It might be blue but that WRX at 7:51 REALLY caught my eye more
DesertSilverMetallicDC5 Chya brah brah sick Subaru 🤙🏼🤙🏼
I test drove the V6 and was very impressed. The only thing that will prevent me from buying one is that it has too many doors. So Kia, where's the coupe to compete with the Germans?
I don’t think comparing it to a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry is fair. This car’s competitors are VW Arteon and Audi A5. When viewed in this company, the Stinger is an absolute bargain. One of the best features, a full size spare tire with matching wheel.
The Stinger in this base model seems like a pretty solid vehicle, but I wish there were a few exterior design features that they would alter in future model years. For example, I wish they would add LED headlights as STANDARD equipment, offer more attractive (less basic looking rims) on the base model, and possibly offer a performance appearance package for those who don't want to step all the way up to the GT models but still want more sporty and aggressive styling.
That blue color really pops, though! It reminds me of the Electric Blue color that Hyundai offers on the Elantra. Nevertheless, from one car reviewer to another, great review, Sofyan!
DriveAndBeDriven Regal Sportback is a better choice and as fast as Accord 2.0T
it’s a B A S E model
I like the start stop
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I am debating between Hyundai Sonata limited VS Kia Stinger v4 vs Toyota Camry xse - any thoughts?
getting my gt1 for 38k. Well, well worth it. Few more weeks =)
Love the colour!!!! Suits the car very well. I think the 2.0T model is a better all-rounder than the GT, you loose little plus decent fuel economy and lower price point.
great vid
Sofyan, redline reviews, which would you choose, Top trims... A CPO Audi A7 prestige, or a new VW Arteon SEL Premium R line AWD, or a new Stinger GT2 AWD?
I wish KIA would offer the 2.0T GT trim like they have in Europe.
Can you get your hands on the Audi TTS? The interior and quality of the TTS is outstanding.
Son you don't know what growl sounds like driving four bangers and 6 bangers.
Fastest 0-60 for this that I've seen is 6.1 from Car & Driver. Consumer Reports got 7.5 seconds.
A perfect k900 5.0 v8 swap! The guy who made the stinger said a V8 could fit in it.
Price difference is huge, I dont get the ‘not a big difference’
Jordan Davidson Right! Since when is $6k not much. Must be nice to be rich. Lol
If I put $6k onto my mortgage, it saves over $8k on repayments
coming back to this review now that you've tested the new Mazda 6 turbo, how do they compare? Which is the more engaging and sporty to drive?
thank you
longbowdt I was considering the 2. Test drove a 2018 Stinger Premium AWD and a Mazda6 GT Reserve. I’ve wanted a Mazda6 for years but was underwhelmed by it. I bought the Stinger and love it. And people ask me “what kind of car is that???”
I don't get why all reviewers are following the manufacture specs and saying the acceleration from 0 to 60 is 6 sec for the 2.0t, this trim has been tested and it needs over 7 sec to reach 60 which is a big difference! check pdrivetv video for proof.
Are the headlamps different from the GT???
The turbo 4 vs the 2.0 accord touring?
I hope the Stinger does well given its RWD actually a good alternative to the Infiniti Q50 dang it Nissan update that damn 7 Speed Auto.
No led headlights,but are hid headlights standard?
Have you reviewed the mid-level 2018 Giulia Ti Sport? How does it compare with its competitors?
Giulia is the best. idk why people prefer Sport over Lusso though, who really uses shifters.
Is it more fun than the Accord 2.0T, camry sport or Nissan Maxima!?
Similar 0-60 time
Is this base now competitive w/ the 2019 VW Jetta GLI in your mind ? The base Stinger's numbers are slower than the GLI and more expensive.
C Wise gli is slower
I don't get the start/stop thing. It would just cause wear on the engine for little benefit.
Love that car good review
Would I need to purchase Premium gasoline in a base model 2.0 Stinger?
Not a big fan of Kia but this is a really good step for them!
Wish this car didn’t have the non functional hood scoops...
Isaias Villa
Damn I actually like those. Wish it didn't have the side vents though.
Deshawn Saunders Yeah the side vents seem a little over the top as well. I just wish the whole car was as classy as the rear end. Both the hood and side vents look cheap imo.
Isaias Villa
Aye, to each his own. Kia/Hyundai are the trendy up comers, give them time. 👍🏿
Deshawn Saunders Very true! Overall great product. They have made a tremendous leap in recent years!
Isaias Villa maybe so. To me they look good. And the ones on the side and front are fully functional. Loving my Stinger GT1. Comfort AND speed, who’s not gonna love that?
Me and my girl had this move in bed called a "Stinger". It involved a bed of needles, a yellow raincoat, warm honey, and a framed picture of Sofyan.
LAWLL!!!
Since when did this turn into Regular Car Reviews?
is this the same engine as in the optima turbo?
I would take the base stinger in rwd and maybe spec it with the premium option
And is the genesis g70 coming up??
The GT is better looking but the base is still incredibly nice for a daily driver
You can get the GT 1 for 42,000. No point in getting the premium 4 cylinder package when it comes in the same price as the GT1
Johnny Dwyer one reason would be sunroof.
What makes the lights flicker?
shiza237 222 frame rate of the camera is slow. They don’t flicker to the naked eye
it’s the camera not the car
It’s cause of the led lights
Il take the 2.0T. Not an enthusiast so i am sure i will love this car :)
Ever sense this car came out, every one was talking about it but I haven’t seen them on the road yet! Wtf?? I think it’s the price maybe idk!
Brian Vtec The stinger strikes me as one of those cars most people think is cool but if you ask them if they would buy one they’ll probably say no. Kind of like Saab’s were actually. Cool cars that no one really wanted to buy.
I've seen one 2.0T. It looked like it was on stilts with wheels skinny and pushed out to the corners. Sort of like a soap box derby car.
I've seen a few on the road already. There's a guy locally that uses it as his Lyft vehicle.
The Stinger is one of my favorite cars but spending this much I would get the Cadenza with the 3.3 n/a instead of a 4 cylinder
Quick question doesn’t this mean that Kia is competing with itself cuz it’s cadenza is at the same price range as the stinger.
There's no way I would spend close to that much money on a 4-cylinder car, turbo or not. In my opinion, it should be around $24,000.
So when is the 2018 Mazda6 turbo review coming?
Tim Lau Mazda is dropping off the car this Friday!
Redline Reviews great, thanks for your hard work!
So whens the review of WRX Sti type RA..??
These vehicles ARE AFFORDABLE. Just bought a 2018 Stinger Premium fully loaded (MSRP $40,000) for $33,683 out-the-door. Check around. There are deals out there.
Which state? Is that all in with taxes?
That was Koons Kia in Woodbridge, VA. Just a few miles south of Washington DC. That was the total price OTD including all taxes, processing, etc.
I find it amazing how this guy never hits shitty traffic 😜
So roughly 37k-40k for a fully loaded base Stinger... to be honest it’s still not worth it.
636kidd....But you imagine 39K for a fully loaded Accord is ok? The Stinger is way more fun bro, and has all of the same features at that price.
I guess it’s for someone who doesn’t want or need the extra power and wants better gas mileage. Only thing I can think of lol.
The extra $4200 is for the AWD system and the Safety system plus some other options for $37k. Some folks don’t want a sunroof or the NAV system so they would be fine with that. Folks tend to forget this car competes with the A5 Sportback, 4 Series GC, MB 4 door coupe, etc.. You can’t get one of the others in base form for that price. While folks are thinking KIA of old, KIA is making strides to target the luxury market as they have proven they got the goods to compete with Toyota, Nissan, etc..
KIA/Hyundai hired folks to take them to the next level in design and performance. They already proved their vehicles will last with their warranty. Now they need to improve the dealer experience to make the overall brand experience great. Their prices are going to increase as they add higher performing products.
There are synonyms for "folks."
Yeah but a fully loaded Accord is huh, lol, hahahahaha.
Quite surprised you didn't mention the A5 when you said there is nothing like this. I think if you spec it out similarly, it's hard to justify getting the Stinger. For about $5k more, I'd rather get the Audi interior and fit / finish. What do you think?
Jim Lee the audi a5 is spectacular auto in and out!
Jim Lee...You're right. The A5 is a competitor for the Stinger. But it's a lot more than 5K bro! I just configured the 2L prestige model and added the features that come on the Stinger. It's 57K! That's about five grand more than the fully loaded GT2 model Stinger, which blows this Audi away performance wise. Kia makes a pretty intriguing choice.
Jim Lee While the A5 Sportback is indeed a competitor, the price difference is considerably more once you option it up to match the Stinger’s equipment. For a moderately equipped premium plus trim, you could get a Stinger GT2 and at that point, for $50,000 we would. The interior fit and finish is not far behind the Audi at all, and what the Audi really gives you is the virtual cockpit display and a quick shifting dual clutch transmission. The Kia is actually more fun to drive in the corners and gives you that rear drive handling dynamic.
Jim Lee Or a Regal Sportback 2.0T for $22,000.
John Holst but would you say that the options match up like for like? I've owned two prior Hyundais, and found the build quality to be still lacking. I'm not talking about fit or that it breaks, but the depth of quality being not as good.
Savagegeese did a video on the Stinger and showed that it rattles and creaks (which I experienced in my 06 sonata and 12 Tucson). Stuff that is a hassle for them to fix under warranty, but doesn't happen to experienced luxury makers.
Which would you rather buy at $46k? A Stinger AWD or 1 year old Audi with 8k miles and a few less options, but everything you need. That's my conundrum. I think I'm 3 years the Stinger appeal will fade but the audi will still have its luster.
Nice Review Of 2018 Kia Stinger. 😁
Can you please review the New Mazda 6 Signature
wait I thought the only colors are black, sliver, and white or am I wrong
Jenn Ravenwing That is correct, Kia heard complaints about the lack of color choices and are responding. Looks like they haven’t updated their site to reflect this yet.
Funny that the alpha makes the most but when I testdrove it was definitly slower than me 2013 328i. Bmw turbo 4 is best in class with out a doubt.
Doesn’t the Cadillac ATS 2.0T make more power?
Do you think it performs better than an Accord Sport??
Sorry!..actually finsihed watching the video where you addres that..lmao
The little ending music came on early in this video... interesting lol
When available, a review of the Genesis G70 should be interesting. It takes the same basic 4 cylinder engine and pairs it with a manual transmission and rear wheel drive.
You should do a charger next
Wrx at 7:54
Base fight: Stinger vs Gulia vs Mazda 6?
Toro Cars
Mazda 6 signature amazing car.
Test drove Kia Premium and Mazda 6 GT Reserve. Bought the Stinger. The base stinger eat the base Mazda6 (no turbo) for lunch.
It doesn’t have enough features to justify the price. Might as well get the Camry/Accord if you’re gonna choose the base model.