The Kern at War and Irish warfare with the Rambling Kern
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- This week am joined by the Rambling Kern as we cover the Kern at War and Irish warfare .
Rambling Kern TH-cam
/ @ramblingkern
Source's
Book of kells
Irish national museum
The Image of Irelande, with a Discoverie of Woodkarne Book by John Derricke
Expugnatio Hibernica, c. 1189
Very interesting. I wonder if the deforestation from the 1500s for the English navy and farming helped the transition to pike and shot.
I think O'Neill was making the switch anyway. The way he used the Pike and shot played in to the woods to hit hard. But that's out of my field really.
There was still a significant amount of forestry in Ireland at the time. I think the move came to help deal with cavalry as can be seen with success of this type of warfare across europe.
This is the exact stuff I subscribed for, seriously. Gaelic warfare and the warrior tradition of Ireland is a huge aspect of my love of Irish history.
Didn't even know The Rambling Kern even existed! Great stuff; I'd love to study Irish HEMA. I already study Highland Broadsword (which a good many Irishmen fought with in the 1600s and 1700s) so expanding that study would be amazing.
Epic. I would love to study both what the Rambling Kern does and the Highland Broadsword.
My club teaches Irish hema so if you are ever in Dublin feel free to drop by.
Fyi we also do Irish broadsword though it's the same really as Highland or regimental
@@ramblingkern Stand by, videos will be made haha
I really appreciate this channel since it helps me better understand where my family comes from prior to the American civil war. See, the Irish American half of my family migrated here from Ireland just in time for the civil war and my family enlisted to fight on behalf of the union army in the 69th Irish brigade and for the longest time that's as much as I've known. Since I've been watching these videos I have a better understanding of that entire half of my ancestry regarding this specific topic since I can relate to it being a Hema, Kali and bataireacht practitioner. Saying all that I would like to thank you.
Yup❤❤❤
Great history lesson thanks mate
Your more then welcome buddy!!
Very nice video. Another thing I'd love to hear about is some in-depth analysis of Irish battle tactics, especially that of the kern. Battle cries would be a great topic too. So much stuff, I've no idea where to even start to research this myself.
I will do my best to do some videos on that these things take a lot of research as these were not the best documented times especially with regards to irish history, but I will do my best.
Will see what we can do man. Butler knows a great deal on battle cries. His super busy right now. But will seem
I have done a small bit of research on the internet regarding battle cries, so apparently each family would have had their own but one that was adopted by a few families and used during the American civil war was Faugh a ballagh ! I think translates as clear the way or clear the path. Another one was “ Abu ! “ meaning victory. King Henry Vlll enacted a statute that no battle cry should be used but only to call upon st George or the king of England. “ Abu “ was often preceded by the clan name and variously used as Abu,abo, uboo, lullaloo and other forms including hullabaloo which is now a word in the English language. Fascinating subject.
Absolutely great video!!
Thanks man!
Wish Ireland had more trees still
I know!
I’ve been subbed and watched your vids for awhile, and I’ve gone back to your older videos how on earth did I miss this one? Love it!
Something I'd love to see more of is irish warfare during the high medieval period. Almost everything I read about them is either in early medieval or late medieval. I can't find any sources on high medieval Ireland
Yes! the era of the reform of the Irish church and the Norman invasion of Ireland. Ya! I should do a video on this topic. Right now what's super popular is Vikings and Tudor-era Ireland, that's why we have so much work on that. But I do want to do a video covering more on High medieval Ireland and warfare. I will look back at this late summer maybe. right now am pinned down with work and a ton of other topics, that badly need to be covered.
I'm very interested in ancient weapons and warfare I guess being around my dad a retired military man he wasn't a bragger. But when he was in the mood he could outdo my cousin in storytelling but he wasn't the type to take away the to top guy in yarn telling.
Sounds like my cup of tea for a chat.
Great post
Thanks so much man!
GREAT, im looking forward to more videos!. ive always been fascinated with the ancient/medieval irish culture, political and military history!
We have endless videos on the Irish on are channel. Thank you so much for the support.
Very interesting video, enjoyed it.
The Celts across Europe prised individual combat, apparently they frowned upon the use of the bow and arrow as it was seen as a cowardly weapon where your enemy could be struck from a distance rather than hand to hand combat. Over time though the benefits of this were slowly adopted but perhaps not on a large scale as in the way the British longbow was used. The compound bow would have been a time consuming weapon to make and without modern industrial methods of manufacture would have meant a large disparity in the performance of individually made weapons and the danger of that bow breaking at a crucial moment in combat. A throwing dart would have achieved much the same result but cheaper to make, easier to transport and could be produced in a relatively large scale.
We need to promote traditional irish cture and language in eire,and bring back living modern day , irish warrior culture !
Curnow here
Good stuff lads
Thanks man!
Can you recommend a good book that focuses on Irish warfare? And can you do a video on how Irish warfare developed from celtic times to viking/norman times? Because the other celtic areas were consumed by Rome and took on their battle style. (Apart from Scotland which we conquered). In Medieval times were the Irish still fully invested in the old celtic psych up before a battle with horns, speeches, chants etc?
There are a few books though it depends on what time period you want to know more on. As for that period the history is very lacking but I will do some research and see what I can come up with.
Ya, I've been asked to cover that a few times. Am looking to bring Shane Kent back in to cover what Ireland was like in the 5th century.
@@IrishMedievalHistory Thanks guys hope you have a great Easter and looking forward to more content.
@@JohnSmith-wo2fz will do and thank you for all the support.
A big misconception is that Kerns were poor warriors. In fact they were definitely part of the noble class as it cost a fortune to outfit them. Having their own distinct weapons and fighting styles they were the equivalent of knights on the continent.
Not sure if this'll be read; but in my research especially in regards to two specific surnames, Kerr and Carroll were primarily of Kern stock as it was their profession during the time (Kerr being from Scottish 'kerns'; caterans).
The pikes were use in history and by other cultures I think as ways of stages of battles?
Ya, Pikes are used all over the world.
@@IrishMedievalHistory I thought so.
How much do you know about the taking of heads?
I've seen armor made up of bone somewhere. Wait I think the indigenous people somewhere used something similar to the dart with the sling wow yes I can be like a sponge, dirk and daggers for up close and personal reasons 😜🙄🤦🤦
Maybe
@@IrishMedievalHistory I'm being sarcastic it's my first language 😁😜🤦
Very interesting. I think we have to be careful about making "national" distinctions between different fighting techniques, adoptions, etc, within the the Gaelic culture region of Ireland and Scotland. It's worth remembering for much of the Middle Agee, the vast majority of Irish and Scots spoke a number of dialects of the Gaelic language.
Bringing things into the modern era, that joint legacy can be found in the Gaelic games of Hurling and Shinty. Traditionally, players of both codes play with their left hand forward while holding their sticks. This comes directly from practices deployed in the use of the two handed "claidheamh da laimh" and "dane axe". The forward, left hand, acted as a fulcrum for the swing, with the right, "power" hand delivering the energy for the blow. Having the right hand at the end of the handle also gave maximum reach to the strongest hand.
The "left hand forward" style also changed spacial perception, giving an advantage over less well practiced opponents. This degree of expertise and dexterity in the use of two handed weapons was one factor in creating the "Galloglass", one of the most feared warriors in Europe.
An interesting example of the link between Gallowglass warrior and sport can be found on the Cloncha gravestone in Donegal, to a certain Manus McCorristan of Iona. On his grave is carved a Shinty stick, or "caman", and a sword.
I believe also there is a guy in the Scottish Highlands, called MacLennan, who still makes replicas of these Cloncha "camans".
How can you teach Irish martial arts? And what are his qualifications?
He teaches Collar and Elbow fighting. His CV sadly I don't have at hand. But I'll ask him in the morning. Late here in Japan now.
@@IrishMedievalHistory
There is no one teaching collar and elbow wrestling in Ireland because it died out hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Plus his clip showed really bad Judo! Is he even a black belt in judo? Or even a qualified wrestling coach with the Irish wrestling federation?
If you are not qualified and are teaching and charging people you are a MC DOJO in Ireland and believe me there are loads of them. A few years ago there was a group in capel street teaching people JEDI LIGHTSABRE FIGHTING! And I'm not joking.
@@mijicmugendo my group along with others are recreating the art following the rulesets of the time as well as a modern one that has been created which you will find on the collar and elbow website. The art itself was practiced here into the early 1900s. Everyone I teach is aware of this and knows the are is being recreated.
I had done a course with the iawa many years ago but it does not translate to well to jacket wrestling. I have done a few years of judo but never went for a belt. I have a purple in bjj and most of my wrestling comes from MMA that I competed in as well as kickboxing over the years.
I also teach fencing based on Irish manuals of the time and teach Irish stick fighting in the Doyle and Antrim style as well as being a dog brother training group. If you are interested feel free to come to a class if you are around.
As for the lightsabre guys I know that has become massive globally and if it is a hobby that keeps people fit and healthy I see no harm in it.
@@ramblingkern
So basically you have no qualifications and are making it up and changing people!
And just so you know the doyle guy from canada is a well known conman and there is no Antrim style of Irish stick fighting either!
You and i both know you are a mc dojo! Out of interest who did you get your purple belt in bjj from?
So would it be accurate to call an Irish Warrior from the Iron Age a Kern? Or would that be incorrect?
The term Kern is often today used to refer to these specific types of light infantry. The Irish word ceithern would be appropriate for them all.
@@ramblingkern Oh ok. Thanks!
I'll allow it@@huntclanhunt9697
While serving as mercenaries on the European Continent the Irish Kern gained a well earned reputation as ferocious warriors. For their outlandish dress, exceptional fierceness & primal disregard for death was famed, & shocked other Western Europeans, who were both intrigued by & frightened of the primitive & fearsome ways of the Irish Kern, back all throughout the 14th, 15th & 16th Centuries. And their skill & prowess with swords, axes & spears was unsurpassed, as they could more than hold their own with even the best & most dexterous of mainland European soldiers. The Irish Kerns were formidable warriors to be reckoned with. Only the mighty Gallowglass & Scots Highlanders were more feared & deadly (all three of whom acquired a reputation of being the Western European equivalent of Japanese Samurais for several centuries!).
Notice anything different? 😁
haha great harp haha
@@IrishMedievalHistory but is it attached to an old flag?