I own both and I always gravitated towards the Ken Onion elite. I recently purchased a 2 x 48 belt grinder and I absolutely love the results I get with it.
I use two worksharp elite grinding system. When sharpening a large amount of knives I set up one with coarse belt then 2nd one I put x65 belt, then I run all knives through coarse one then change belt to X-22 the go to second one and progress through, then after all knives through I put X-4 belt etc, I progress this way to leather belts one with green compound and one with red compound. I also have the firm belts for when I have to repair chips or re-profile new edge.
Great video, I've been experimenting with different methods of batching with a T-8 & Ken Onion elite. I've got two questions that I'd be happy to hear others thoughts on: 1. What range of tolerance do you think is appropriate when jig setting for batches? 2. Thoughts on starting with a coarse belt to expedite material removal, then moving to the SG-250 graded to 1000, then LA-220 to clean up & finish? I'm really enjoying the channel & your approach, thanks!
Good questions. Regarding 1 - I choose knives that give me the same projection distance and tolerate +/- 0.1mm of thickness behind the edge. Where there is more than that, I decide whether to split into two batches, or prioritise certain knives within the batch (ie set up for those ones and the others that are off by a bit will just have to be compromised slightly 2 - a good idea and worth trying. Only challenge would be to get the edge angles to match between the belt and the SG at 1000, as the latter won’t be able to remove much metal if you are off by a bit. But I think once dialled in, that protocol could be very useful! Thanks for tuning in and the comments 🥂
Thanks for the reply, that's a great approach and an admirable tolerance to hold. I think I'll add a few more jigs in the near future to allow for this.
Great video, very informative, as always! I have a question about deburring. How did you come up with the number of strokes that you do on the kangaroo leather? Have you ever used the WS Ken Onion with leather belts and white/green compound for deburring? I find that a too low number of strokes does not remove the burr completely, and a too high number of strokes will not increase but in fact reduce sharpness. I use different numbers of deburring strokes depending on the knife steel and its hardness. But right now, I am mostly guessing what would be the right number of strokes with the white and green compound.
Thanks for tuning in. I have a honing video coming up soon and will add this point in. Essentially it’s trial and error to find the correct number of passes, but the advantage of a hanging strop is it is far more forgiving regarding going ‘too far’. I agree that you can overdo it with the WorkSharp belts, but it’s less likely to happen with a manual strop. Some knives need less than 20 passes on the strop, but none need more that I’ve found so far - so by doing 20, pretty much they are all covered.
Nice one. I’ve never had an issue with a rolled edge. And even if you slip once, it would just be seconds to re-parts and repair. Thanks for tuning in.🌟
I own both and I always gravitated towards the Ken Onion elite. I recently purchased a 2 x 48 belt grinder and I absolutely love the results I get with it.
I use two worksharp elite grinding system. When sharpening a large amount of knives I set up one with coarse belt then 2nd one I put x65 belt, then I run all knives through coarse one then change belt to X-22 the go to second one and progress through, then after all knives through I put X-4 belt etc, I progress this way to leather belts one with green compound and one with red compound. I also have the firm belts for when I have to repair chips or re-profile new edge.
Great video, I've been experimenting with different methods of batching with a T-8 & Ken Onion elite.
I've got two questions that I'd be happy to hear others thoughts on:
1. What range of tolerance do you think is appropriate when jig setting for batches?
2. Thoughts on starting with a coarse belt to expedite material removal, then moving to the SG-250 graded to 1000, then LA-220 to clean up & finish?
I'm really enjoying the channel & your approach, thanks!
@greatedgeltd
Good questions. Regarding 1 - I choose knives that give me the same projection distance and tolerate +/- 0.1mm of thickness behind the edge. Where there is more than that, I decide whether to split into two batches, or prioritise certain knives within the batch (ie set up for those ones and the others that are off by a bit will just have to be compromised slightly
2 - a good idea and worth trying. Only challenge would be to get the edge angles to match between the belt and the SG at 1000, as the latter won’t be able to remove much metal if you are off by a bit. But I think once dialled in, that protocol could be very useful!
Thanks for tuning in and the comments 🥂
Thanks for the reply, that's a great approach and an admirable tolerance to hold.
I think I'll add a few more jigs in the near future to allow for this.
Great video, very informative, as always! I have a question about deburring. How did you come up with the number of strokes that you do on the kangaroo leather? Have you ever used the WS Ken Onion with leather belts and white/green compound for deburring? I find that a too low number of strokes does not remove the burr completely, and a too high number of strokes will not increase but in fact reduce sharpness. I use different numbers of deburring strokes depending on the knife steel and its hardness. But right now, I am mostly guessing what would be the right number of strokes with the white and green compound.
Thanks for tuning in. I have a honing video coming up soon and will add this point in. Essentially it’s trial and error to find the correct number of passes, but the advantage of a hanging strop is it is far more forgiving regarding going ‘too far’. I agree that you can overdo it with the WorkSharp belts, but it’s less likely to happen with a manual strop. Some knives need less than 20 passes on the strop, but none need more that I’ve found so far - so by doing 20, pretty much they are all covered.
@@greatedgeltd Great, thanks! Looking forward to the honing video!
i have the worksharp and love it. do i need to worry about the rounded edge caused by using a belt sander with no support compared to the tormek
Nice one. I’ve never had an issue with a rolled edge. And even if you slip once, it would just be seconds to re-parts and repair. Thanks for tuning in.🌟