RULES FOR THIS VIDEOS COMMENTS SECTION: -I do not wanna hear about the Johnny V Amber trial. I don't care about the trial at all. I only care about the way misogynists weaponized it. There's plenty of places to talk about the trial, this isn't one of them. -Saying anything remotely dehumanizing gets you blocked.
you should absolutely care about this trial tbh rachel. this trial is the reason why misogyny is cool again, thanks to ben shapiro's 100 million tiktok campaign against Amber.
@dingdongfootball5331 i can read but can you? you cannot care about the way misogynists weaponized the trial without caring about the trial itself. that's my point.
I think Rachel's made it very clear that's the only part she DOES care about. What she doesn't care for is to get drawn into a big online he said/she said ugly debate. She's literally said that there are plenty of other places to go and have that. Let her have her clearly stated boundaries!@@ChocolatexCherries3
I love when men are like: she's free to come debate me on my podcast. Aka you're free to come be talked over, belittled, and bullied in front of my audience. Gosh, why don't you want to come on my podcast? I'm just trying to be open! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I legit don't get why people don't see someone say "No thank you, but I appreciate your offer." and don't think they're, idk, trying to difuse the situation??
matt shaw: **stalks her, dedicates his nasty book to her, gets extremely salty for her review, etc, etc** also matt shaw: why is she scared of me?! peace and happiness!
I worked with Matt Shaw years ago and can confirm. He’s really good at playing the “I’m just a quirky guy who writes quirky dark books” thing, but that’s not the case. He is cruel to people who don’t agree with him, needs to be the center of attention, and talks shit behind women’s backs even when he claims to be friends with them. He doesn’t see himself as a misogynist, but he is. He’s also just… not nice a lot of the time when he doesn’t get his way. His general behavior is well known by the trail of former colleagues he’s left behind. I don’t want to give any specifics because I still know people in his sphere. There’s so much I want to say, but his actions toward Hailey prove exactly how far he’s willing to take things.
I said this on Cindy's video and I'll say it again: the way he talks to and about her is just sexual harrassment, plain and simple. When you pair the winky faces and innuendos with the fact that his audience is vocal about her being deserving of myriad kinds of violence, you get a really dangerous situation. I can't believe that he had the *gall* to be offended when she wouldn't meet the him in any kind of private setting. Like dude, if you sexually harrass her in public, why do you think she'd be willing to risk being near you in private?? Also, Rachel's inflection on "I would *weep* for them if I wasn't so busy laughing at them" was freaking iconic
It’s a disturbing trend not just seen with this one book but most modern media today. My dad pointed it out to me years ago how a ton of shows push sex and violence into normalcy and he’d be disgusted by shows like criminal minds and gsme of thrones while the sex and violence together didn’t even phase me and I’m only now realizing just how desensitized the media has made us. Why would they want us to be desensitized to violence, sex and the resulting combination of sexual violence
Yeah, and it’s not unreasonable or insulting for someone to not want to meet in a private setting alone anyway even if he hadn’t already been acting like that, especially for a woman who’d be meeting a man, let alone one with any level of fame and following. It’s incredibly weird to take that as some kind of offense or insult. The only people he should be mad at are the people who make such wariness necessary in the first place. Get angry at the creeps, not the women trying not to become a statistic! (Also lmfao at him calling her “you trout” in the dedication, such intense children’s show insult vibes)
Ironically, in trying to prove that he wasn’t a misogynist, he showed that he was not only in fact a misogynist, but ALSO a much WORSE misogynist than any of us could have possibly guessed
Regardless of which side one comes down on with that trial, the fact that so many people decided to use Amber as an excuse to demonize all women is horrifying.
@@marymac3572exactly! Those men don't give one shit about Johnny Depp or any other male victim of domestic violence, they just saw an opportunity to shit all over women and play the victim. I mean, the general public's reaction to Amber Heard - how absolutely vitriolic and hateful and extreme it was - vs the public's (especially men's) reaction to famous male abusers, is in itself proof that they are wrong when they claim we live in a society that favors & coddles women. I could sit here and name 100 famous men who have been imprisoned or in trouble for rape and abuse, who most people had no reaction to publicly. R Kelley literally had a compound full of underage girls he held captive, raped, abused, and tortured, for 20 YEARS before he was held accountable. And now he's mostly spoken of as a joke. Where is their righteous anger when speaking about the men who abuse women? When women abuse and are caught, everyone including other women condemn them and hold them accountable. But when it's a man doing the abuse, unfortunately the majority of men are silent.
His comment about how the other extreme horror authors are the nicest men you would ever hope to meet made me laugh. He might as well have said that they aren't misogynists because they aren't misogynistic to me as a man.
The same as "I can't be racist because I have black friends" or "I'm not homophobic because I have a gay friend" (who was me, the token gay friend) and then say the nastiest shit about black and or LGBTQ+ people.
@@angelsartandgaming not even "i'm not racist because i have a black friend" but "please don't call white people racist, my white friends have never been racist towards me, a white man, and i've never seen them being racist towards people of color. sure, there are a few bad apples out there, but don't lump us innocent white people in with them!"
wait, he threw this epic level of tantrum over one negative review, and he thinks someone else has "delicate sensibilities"? lol. nothing says "I don't care about your reviews" like recording hours of video and writing long essays complaining about her reviews. sure.
“You’re so triggered about it” this man is the one tracking down her content to purposely misrepresent her. She’s an extreme horror reviewer just reading the genre she likes and doing her job by stating her opinion. Seems like he’s the one “triggered.” This dude is such a loser. Here’s hoping him and his misogynistic ilk leave you alone. Thank you for making this!
girl literally just went on with her day and had no clue Matt knew she existed bc iirc she only left a video review, so mad that he made an entire book, and then complained that she used Goodreads reviews to mention that it was based on her and that's kinda weird. and then the dude had the BALLS to be angry that she chose to leave her opinion on a cishet man writing a smut book based on her because of what she said ABOUT him. not even mentioning that the very same cishet man wrote a book in the 6th grade where he murders a girl he had an irl crush on because she rejected him irl. I'm not buying a teenage boys torture porn fanfic about his crush but I'm gonna go with it's basically the rough draft of his stupid Amber Heard book. that'd explain how messed up it is at least. not his first time using violence as a punishment towards women when it comes to his writing. if I saw Matt Shaw at a bar, I'm leaving the building and drinking outside until he's gone I don't want to be within his eyesight. if he can turn and see me I'm not far enough. tbh I think that'd actually be EVERYONE'S reaction to Matt Shaw. No passion for the craft he works in - he doesn't utilize his skills for art - instead he just uses "extreme horror" as an excuse to write hundreds of pages of women being brutally r-worded and tortured. what the hell is wrong with cis men
I commented this under Cindy's video and I feel it needs repeating. I don't care if someone is the literal embodiment of evil and has done the most heinous things imaginable. If they are a real life person, don't write torture porn about them. The fact this man wrote an entire book about an actual human being just to fantasize about hurting her is horrifying.
I would add if it comes to certain specific groups such as a jewish author writing about TP about hitler or na*is that at least while still understandably morally questionable at least it would be more understandable as these people are victims of a large history of generational trauma by these people mentioned, Matt Wash on the other hand is not a victim but wrote a torture porn of an actual victim whose crime was as Rachel mentioned not being the “perfect victim”
@@-dark-paradiseId argue dead people, especially dead tyrants, is a little different than a currently living person. Nobody really cares if you write TP of some English king from 400 years ago. They do care if you write it about their friend.
He basically called her every single stereotypically misogynistic insult including hysterical, overly emotional, dumb, fake, old, ugly, annoying, etc... but he's not a misogynist you guys! He's totally not weaponizing his power position as a man to intimidate, demean, attack, and cross women's boundaries with little to no consequences!
As a lesbian who loves horror (and sci-fi, another genre that feels unfairly co-opted by men often) it's so sickening to see so many male horror writers use the genre they're writing in as an excuse for misogyny (or racism, homophobia, etc). What a vile dude. Stay safe out there.
No lie, part of why I avoid horror is this right here. Female victims are almost always a Hallmark, and when so much of the genre is dominated by men, depicting overwhelmingly women being brutalized and murdered, I just don't trust the genre as a whole. That may not sound fair, but where there's smoke, there is often fire, and I do not need that smoke
@Sharvalgon while I appreciate your input like any other's, I think we are past the point of saying something along the idea of let's separate art from artist, this author had times again proved that his beliefs are a direct result of his misogyny. Art is so intricate and so bound to the existence of a human's glance that you can't separate them without its authenticity being synthesised. And while I agreed that not all victims are women or girls, it is strange that one group's presence outweighs the other, no?
@@Listening_Books12345 It could be dry ice causing that smoke, that's used a lot in horror too. In all honesty, you might not want to hear this (especially with how cliche this is going to sound), but guys are just as victimized in horror movies as women are. If you see enough of these movies (especially slashers), you'll notice that men get killed just as often, and just as graphically, as women do. Granted, women are sexualized more often in horror movies (again, especially slashers) than men are. So you could definitely make the argument that guys are more the target audience for slasher movies (though polling numbers on this are all over the place). I will admit that I'd still like to see more female creators in the genre however, though it seems that's already happening to a degree.
I’m a folklore student currently finishing my BA and starting my MA, and I’m writing my thesis’ on a certain Finnish 18th century women’s rights activist. Most of my materials are early 1900s news papers and let me tell you, reading those papers have both been rough and illuminating: these articles -all written by men, all fighting against the so-called terror of feminism- use all the same arguments MRAs and anti-feminists use today. ”Women are too emotional”, ”women are fragile and sensitive”, ”these women must be bitter and jealous”, ”being against misogynistic writing means you’re against freedom of speech”… I truly feel like I’m living in the Twilight Zone, reading All These Same Arguments being used by 18th century ”gentlemen”, then opening ANY social media app and seeing them all over again, this time being used by ”nice guys”. I don’t know what to say anymore, except thank you for the video. The subject matter might (some day) drive me insane, but it’s an important one to discuss.
that's such a funny (but not really) comparison, rlly shows the progress in the world. next time a man mentions how much better women are treated now vs back then I hope they get those articles shoved in their face
I never interpreted Hailey saying to examine yourself if you have no limits as a judgement. I interpret it as ‘examine yourself deeply for any potential limits before you accidentally find a hard limit and regret it’.
I took it as "if you truly think you have absolutely 0 hard limits, maybe consider that 1) you may be wrong, 2) that's NOT the case for most people so don't be a d!ck"
This man is giving massively unsafe vibes 😭Something about creating torture content about an irl person and then dedicating a book to [another] irl person seems rather threat-adjacent, if not an overt threat in itself. All the terrible AI art covers need to go straight to jail also, do not pass go do not collect $200. Thank you for speaking out! I found D's channel through your channel and he's awesome! So sorry about all the jerks who post terrible things, they're just proving the point.
The AI covers are the worst omg! The worst part is he claims a lot of them as his own art, and when caught out says he does ‘minor tweaks’ to some of them.
It's just... wild how Matt Shaw was a small piece of Hailey's video, but then she became his life for months after. But of course SHE'S the one with the delicate sensibilities 🙄
Let this serve as a case study: If you need to resort to misogyny to argue with someone, your opponent has already won. (Also, the bit about his fish unaliving itself so that it wouldn't have to listen to him talk about how angry he is at a woman he's never met is comedy gold.)
I'm just imagining the fish being like "how DARE you speak of her that way my mother was a lovely fish! when I was a child my mother would've pushed me if I spoke that way about a woman!" it's just. so fucking funny.
Yea, at the moment you attack someone's character instead of the argument of piece typically you have lost the point. Very rarely is addressing someone's character a way to actually win an argument, it typically has to do with if a person's held beliefs are what drive said action and then while it looks like character attacks it's done from an objective place and not actually attacking them as a person but the beliefs they choose to hold.
Seeing as how die-hard his fans are, I'm surprised you didn't end up hearing about why that is! Allegedly, Matt is very okay with his fans finding his personal phone number and email (I believe he said "If anyone wants to talk, my information is out there!" in an interview), and is currently in a Whatsapp groupchat with several of them. These people think he's so cool and "down to earth" because he formed a personal relationship with them about his books and probably his opinions about Haley. If this is true, then Matt placed himself in a position of a "friend" to these people to garter more sympathy and encouragement for his behavior and is essentially using their "ride or die" mentality for his own gain.
Oh no I became very familiar with the fact that he’s leaned into the parasocial relationships to an alarming degree after I had a woman in my comments claim matt could basically do no wrong because he was nice to her and her husband to the point where she considered him a friend. I was…alarmed.
@@godscomplex13I understand what you're saying. But I wasn't using narcissistic as an insult. I was being accurately descriptive. He sounds like he has many narcissistic traits (I didn't say he has NPD) and he has amassed a cult-like following.
As someone who lives with easily triggered parents and brother who constantly called anyone who disagrees with them "triggered" , i just wanna say : LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
I'm a massive Splatterpunk fan and let me just say: Thank you so much for covering this. There are so many amazing people that write for this genre but there is also a deep rooted issue with the community and some authors within it. Some people think that because they are in a smaller, darker niche, that any criticism against them is either from outside the community and in bad faith, or from people "too sensitive" to handle the art they make. Its a pervasive attitude in the community and its a big problem, especially since its roots were with countercultural movements in the 80's and has so many great LGBTQ+ and women authors that were the original genre-defining voices. Its a bummer how far it seems to have fallen, but I am thankful that there are still modern writers that keep the Punk in Splatterpunk and are either allies to or members of the communities that this boys-club mentality hurts so badly.
I’m also a fan and what’s so frustrating is the absolute rejection of any opinion that doesn’t fall in line with the group’s opinion. I’ve read several authors who got famous thru the extreme horror booktok community and I was very disappointed in their books. But no one voices any dissenting opinion and I feel like if I did, people would accuse me of not being a real fan or being too sensitive. Like, no, your book is just badly written and honestly not that interesting
I talked about this over on the extreme horror subreddit and I was so relieved when a lot of people felt the same way I did. Oftentimes, negative posts there about Beauregard and Shaw do not go over well
"Females do not deserve the honor of clothing!" Is the line in TNG that pretty much sums up the ferengi perfectly. Sleazy, misogynistic, ugly, weasely, and highly punchable.
it's wild to me that horror, a genre created by a woman, has become oversaturated by rampant misogyny, ableism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and a complete disregard for marginalized groups when it was made to uplift those who felt ostracized from society. this is why i say i'm on a bipoc creatives diet monetarily-it's shit like this that makes me feel safe in extremely small pockets of white book spaces (like your channel and hailey's). also i'm glad you're taking care of yourself. these videos are rough and i'm sending you much love.
It's funny that he mentions Duncan Ralston. I'm in the horror community and a woman commented on the medical inaccuracies in Woom and how it caused her to DNF. He responded and used ad hominem attacks and then a bunch of his fans messaged her, threatened her, and even followed her to another FB group where she posted about the situation and flooded the comments.
@@ReadswithRachel the irony that the authors in extreme who are so quick tell people how their work is not for the easily offended are the ones who always have the biggest issue when someone criticizes them.
I'm in a horror Facebook group with him and he is blocked from seeing my posts because I want to be able to freely talk about books without feeling threatened. I really should do that to all the authors in that group. A lady made a post about not enjoying one of his books and many women commented warning her about this very thing.
The misrepresenting of her is AWFUL. He does his BEST to make her out to be exactly what she's NOT and it's awful. Also saying "those are the people who are not worth your time" when he's keeping track of her and kinda coming off as obsessing over her. By his own logic she "shouldn't be worth his time." Just yikes. EDIT TO ADD: "If you don't like my stuff, no problem, I don't care" OHHHHH MY GOD. It's hard to tell if it's him being disingenuous or just THAT lacking in self awareness. I'm LEANING the former but it's really hard to tell sometimes.
Hear me out: crochet book covers for bell hooks? Then it's a hook pun and a double gift. If book covers are, impossible, forgive me, I'm not a fiber artist.
@@StayGreenBDifferent I think you’re on to something. It would be hard to make a cover for a paperback, which would be more affordable, so I think maybe a little crochet sleeve pocket thing. Or a stocking!
@ReadswithRachel Don't let the missed opportunity needle you; this close-knit community of reviewers surely contains some folks who are hooked on puns, sew someone should soon deliver the joke you're yarning for. Your ability to rip into crochet-y misogynists like Mark Shaw is more than enough for us
I’m so confused because on what planet does watching someone for MONTHS (secretly***), that you’ve never spoken to, then writing a book (any genre) AND dedicating it to them and use that as a brag behind their back NOT SCREAM EFFED UP?? What?? That is creepy as hell. They 👏 are 👏 strangers 👏
Matt is a pile of red flags, and so are his supporters who just overlook his behavior; and worse yet applauded it. God. It was a book review. Authors need to grow a thicker skin or don't f'ing write. Glad you covered this. Keep shining that light.
He seems to be the Classic Case of Dude who seems to think His british accent and Lack of shouting means that Hes Not being a disrespectful tw*t. Happens more often than Id Like 😅😅
@@annabeinglazy5580 As a UK Person (against my will) I can confirm that there are millions of people here who genuinely believe that if you are calm, and not swearing, and not shouting “I’m gonna get you” etc, then that has to mean that what you are saying is fair and reasonable Which, of course, it does not
Exactly. My skin is more thicker than his being an author myself. If someone said a bad review on any of my books I just let it go and keep working on improving my writing.
I looked him up and he has almost 150 books that he's written in only 15 years. That's ten books per year. I've been writing since the year 2000, had my first complete book in 2002, and I only have 50 books. How someone can write and publish 10 books a year is beyond me.
I thought I was fast since I finish stories within a year or two of when I first think about them. I'm honestly horrified at the fact he did this, like it I can't imagine hating someone so much. This book is a disgrace and the author should stop writing, and finds some peace with himself. Edit: Only have 50? You wrote 50 books in 23 years. That's 2 books a year. That's amazing!
Not to be crass, probably pumps and dumps them - pun intended. You could probably add no editing sequence to that either. If it's none of that, perhaps they're more novella's than full length books.
It’s always so weird to me when someone accuses a reviewer of somehow keeping readers from reading. Nobody is doing that… because nobody can do that. It’s a weird argument.
Yeah, how does she have the power to tell anyone what to do? If you say "don't support this author, he's really nasty to reviewers" that compels absolutely no one to comply.
I think it is because they think they are entitled to people reading their books. So if somebody doesn't read their book, because of a negative review, they feel like this reads were stolen from them.
Esp when the majority of reviewers I watch (and i watch way too many) almost ALWAYS give like a statement like “i didnt like this BUT if you reader like xyz subjects/plots/themes/etc then you’ll like this” like i rarely see reviews actually try to dissuade people from reading anything 💀
IT SHOULD!!! I mean, this man literally just told the whole fricken' world that his fans send him nudes! which imma be honest is GROSS!! if I was one of those fans I'd be horrified! A man who does THAT definitely doesn't have "innocent intentions" with this thing! especially when he says it in the book he's harassing someone with! listen I'm not a woman but if another man did all of that to me, I'd see him rambling about all the pics his female fans get sent as way too close to sexual harassment. especially knowing he wrote a smut book because of ME. this man literally wrote a book as a kid about him brutalizing his crush bc she rejected him!!!!
@@chocomelo454 I definitely think that guy was lying through his teeth about that. Very 'Oh you think I can't write women? Well girls literally send me panties in the mail and write litanies of how steamy my books are', fake bravado. Still dunno how literally publicly antagonizing Haley isn't landing him a charge, or maybe it's like stalking where they'll only take action if he showed up at her house :/
@@MegaChadAnakinthat is untrue. There is probably actually not only a civil suit but also federal crimes committed by the author and his fans. At the very least if she stopped posting she could show a loss of revenue caused by the harassment he incited which is ground for recompense legally in a civil suit. Just need more people to push it into law enforcement hands though that depends on the affected people and if they want to go through with some of this.
I love how he says "Amber Heard deserved her abuse!" While also saying "Amber Heard is lying about her abuse!" My brother in Christ you're literally a writer
"That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, it's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it."
@@katea6721that's exactly it. It's a way to let them control the narrative. If he really wanted to talk they could have done an unrelated third party podcast but I suspect he would run from that. Anyone that soft is by definition a coward and cowards are terrified of not being in control.
Even ignoring the brutally perverse issue of making fanfiction hurting real life human beings to entertain your own sick fantasy, at the very least you have to be willing to understand it is not okay to dedicate a splatterpunk horror to a reviewer who just, coincidentally, didn't like your work. That in itself is a threat, and he blew it off when he confronted her multiple times, because he cannot understand how a woman can take issue with how horrifying that can be? Like imagine waking up and your name is permenantly attached to a piece of ill-written garbage that involves incredibly insensitive themes, and there's a very large chance that you and your image are now involved in that piece of fiction. That is absolutely sickening??? If this is someone's introduction to splatterpunk (or even horror in general) I am so embarrassed. This community has some incredible artists and authors who really produce some of the best self-published work I've seen in years, and it's all going down the drain because he does something better than writing a horror novel: he becomes the antagonist of one, with his incredibly gross behavior and obsession with a woman who just likes reading.
Im a survivor too. This video is very important to me now. Thank you for making it. Most days I don’t have the energy to take care of myself, let alone the energy to thoughtfully and concisely eviscerate a misogynist. So I’m glad to know there are people like you out here advocating for us.
Imagine being an extreme horror writer and having such thin skin. It’s amazing how Shaw goes from gleefully announcing how his horror books are going to shock people, only to throw a weapons-grade tantrum because he was accused of writing books that solely exist to shock people.
I for SURE notice that these men never come out for male victims of abuse who are: trans, disabled, underage, men of color, all of whom are often victims. But when there's a case with someone famous and powerful, they'll jump on there just to say absolutely disgusting things about a woman. It really goes to show what the real priority is. (I always love to hear how good a man your husband is, in the work he continues doing on himself and how he supports you, it's just really good to see that in the world, by the way)
Definitely. I'm a non-binary trans guy and I'm disabled, and those people paint me off as a 'confused girl'. They're only about 'support' for men when they use it to put down minorities. Imagine if they put all that energy in dismantling toxic masculinity and encouraging men to be emotionally developed and healthy instead of hateful towards women.
Tbh? As a women, this situation is absolutely terrifying and I don't think I'd ever be able to explain it properly to men. Like it's so foreign to them, they didn't grow up with the same fear we had to grow up with, that it's something that I'm not sure that even with their best intentions and tries, they'll ever understand emotionally?
I think that is rather dehumanizing of men for you to think that they can't understand something if you explain it. We are both humans and me being male does not make me any less unable to understand emotions than you. I mean if I said women don't understand the fear of violence about being a male, that would be disingenuous as though you not being a sex means you can not understand. You might not have experience in what it's like to be male but it does not mean you can't understand if I explain the fact that males have an inherent amount of violence behind their words which keeps men acting civilized though some people decide that violence is something that is ok to use to force others to do what you want instead of for protecting yourself from others forcing you to do something.
@@mattiOTX I have a boyfriend. He lives in the middle of a city. He's the sweetest person to have ever existed. He wouldn't hurt a a fly nor even think of it. One time we were in the subway and a drunk man came to talk to us. It was midnight. I grew up hearing about how women were raped and murdered by drunk man. Maybe that man was super sweet, I had no way of doing that. It was terrifying. When I told that to my boyfriend, he was surprised. He knew it could get scary for women at night, but he had no clue how bad. I'm not saying men don't know, I'm saying they don't know *how much*. Women grow up hearing about horror stories, about how our mothers were harrassed, raped and threatened by some man who thought they owed him something or that their no meant yes. When I was a teen, a friend of mine screamed at me in public, got aggressive, because I told him I wasn't in love with him. He said I was the girl of his dream, that I *had* to. I don't live my life thinking "what will I do if I get raped", I live it thinking "what will I do *when* I get raped". Men don't. They have their own problems I will never fully grasp because I'm not a man. It's not about being unable to understand emotions, it's about living an experience way too different to be able to fully get it. I'll never get how it feels to be told that crying is bad and that I need to be strong because guys are strong. I know how it feels to feel as if I'm not allowed to cry, but I still won't fully get it. I can only try to. Same goes for men and the fear this society has told us to feel around them.
@@adrasthe314 ok, I see your point. At the very least I can understand the fear of impending horror. I'm trans so I do also understand the fear of being on the receiving end of sexual assault though being from Texas I'm a big proponent of firearms are a great equalizer as I'm only about 120 pounds and that does not make for a great weight or muscle mass of defending myself but at the very least I did not grow up worried about when something like violence being used against me, only that it was always a chance that it could occur. Thank you for engaging with me.
@@mattiOTX it's a pleasure :) it's by engaging with people that we get to understand their views and how their experiences shaped it! After all, I have absolutely no doubt that we're all on the same team at the end of the day!
Around 43-46 minutes, you really get a sense of his true goal : gatekeeping the genre he writes in to minimize the amount of criticism he receives. Because if a woman doesn't like his book, clearly she can't handle extreme horror and splatterpunk. SHE is the problem, not him and HIS WRITING! Because he is able to have his opinion and not like her criticism, but it is entirely unfair of her, in his mind, to have a negative opinion of him in the first place.
She didnt have murder porn written about her, she just had a 'romance' book dedicated to her and was reffered to online by the name I have written murder porn about. I see no reason this would be easily confused amd also theyre totally normal things to do" -Matt Shaw
The fact that you have to wait to see if you can talk about a person just to keep yourself and your family safe is disgusting! Sending all the love and support you deserve, You are worth so much more !!
The clip of Matt's tiktok just kept going onnn 😭 for someone who couldn't care less about what other people think he sure is making long videos about these people
Absolutely agree with you 100000000% about the Amber Heard thing. I was invested for such different, personal reasons that it messed with me to see all the blatant sexism being thrown towards her and just in general. even though in hindsight it was pretty obvious I suppose. Ik you said you dont wanna hear it, i just want to agree about the sexism thats prevalent with it. Sorry if its still unwanted, i can delete.
Yeah it's why I stopped having the discussions online. Right from the first moment misogynistic men (and women who support them) always assume the woman is lying. But on a public stage, regardless of who is really at fault, they will find every excuse imaginable to make it sound and look like we're liars and THEY are the victims, by default. I'm not proud of some things I've said to misogynists over that. But maybe, in hindsight, I needed to do it. These people are the scum of humanity, imo.
Your "now my computer's being a misogynist" joke made me giggle. Reminded me quite a bit of my finacee and how she tells inanimate objects that they're homophobic when they cause random inconveniences lol
He basically said if you don't like some books in a genre don't read that genre. Which is mad weird. As if anyone likes every book in their favorite genre. Also, "they're some of the nicest guys you'll ever meet." To YOU. To YOUUUUUU. A man. They're nice to youuuuuuuu because you're a mannnnnnnnnn. Please, Shaw. Develop a critical thinking skill. At least one. Please. We're begging.
It’s nonsense, especially since I feel like you are harsher for books in your favourite genre because you know the genre inside and out so can pick out when it’s mediocre or just done badly. I feel I’m a much harsher reviewer for romance and fantasy, (and cosy mystery) than I am thrillers or historical fiction. Because you can’t get anything past me in a genre I read all the time. For a book ive read that’s not my fav genre if I don’t like it I’ll usually be like three stars it wasn’t for me. For a book in MY genres I’ll be like “this is a two (or one) because of this and this and this and this. “
@@annd2631 yeah that's a great point! If you like the genre you know what you like within the genre. She even had receipts for books in the genre that she did really like. Something I found so insidious as well is that he would ha ha at her and make fun of her for (rightfully) being upset about being so targeted and basically said she was "playing the victim" when that's literally all he did. "She was mean about my book, so I took that super personally and decided to be frightfully unhinged about it." He went very out of his way to try to seem like he was taking the high road, when in fact dude was digging a tunnel. That's pretty gross. And manipulative. And gross...once more for good measure.
1:37:15 Why he keeps dedicating books to a woman who clearly wants nothing to do with him? Simple. It's a way to interact with her against her consent and target his one brain cell Andy fans at her.
Yeah, the trial thing and especially men's reactions to it (and even how people of many genders used the language of social justice to hide misogyny), like you said, acting VINDICATED and excited to let out all the violent fantasies toward women they've been storing up for years... It was disgusting. It made me sick.
gonna take a second to mention how insanely healthy your "i don't wanna see it" stance is. it's so easy to fall down the rabbithole of depreciation and consuming content that actively harms us, and you actively saying "no" to that is so dope. i hope it helps some people also adapt that mindset.
(Not debating the trial in this comment! Just commenting on your insight!) I'm glad you talked about the Depp v. Heard trial like this. I watched the trial in its entirety and since I don't have any social media outside of Tumblr, I wasn't getting any of the discourse about it until it was mentioned in the trial and by the legal commentators I watch on TH-cam. The court of public opinion has little impact on me because I'm so out of the loop, but I see how the trial has harmed actual victims of abuse and it breaks my fucking heart. I deleted my earlier comment since I see the rules and I realized it was getting too close to a debate. I'm not debating anything. I'm more interested in how people are so fucking immune to facts and evidence and their own contradictions like Matt and his damn cronies. People seriously need to get a grip.
i’m literally minutes in and it’s so heartbreaking (and telling) that (mostly women) creators are scared to make videos about these kinds of people. im actually disgusted
The whole part where Shaw claims she doesn't read books is so telling. I come from a literature bachelor and master's degree, and the amount of "casual" doubt about authorship and integrity that is thrown at women isn't new. It's part of the misogyny continuum, but it is veiled in "this is a plow to make us believe a person, who is coincidentally a woman, is more intelligent than what they really are". But it's never a coincidence, because the doubt is never"coincidentally" thrown at men. It's systemic. It's just a new way to be converted about it, a nice fun little dog whistle who brings all the boys to the yard.
Just wanted to get a big heads up that extreme horror/splatterpunk is a very vast genre with authors from all walks of life (including Brett Ellis, the author of American Psycho, who is a queer man along with Poppy C Brite, Judith Sonnet, and Judy Ramirez who is mixed woman). We have some really great men in the community who are not problematic such as John Athan. We fight tooth and nail for the freedom of publishing and creative writing, so please don’t think this includes all of us, but most of us understand that this type of literature is polarizing.
Man the British accent is doing a lot of heavy lifting for making him sound affable and smart... then you tune into the words and realize its meaningless word salad. He couldn't find his way to a cohesive point if it had string tied to one end
That trial has been nothing but an endless nightmare. It should have just been an individual case of a terrible relationship. Instead it’s the battering ram for misogyny. People bring it up everywhere for everything. It’s killing me. Public discourse has been poisoned for the next decade
What I find very telling, that instead of supporting male victims of abuse (which is possible without spewing misogyny) the whole Thing was used to legitimize misogyny
Like no matter where you fall on the side of the debate, that trial being televised turned it to nothing but a circus and a net loss for SA victims everywhere.
My ex left me for his best friend and I learned that behind closed doors she called me a "Pick Me" when she really just meant "Attention-Seeker" and I had to explain to HER ex, a very confused man at this point, the difference between an "attnetion seeker" and a "Pick Me" because he had NO idea why I reacted so viscerally and he got very very confused when I said something like, "Friends do not call their friends misogynists behind their back." I've concluded that people are starting to use "Pick Me" as just a definitionless insult that's got something to do with attention. Because like (I'm ranting now) the Pick Me is undenibaly a female insult because of how specific it is. And our closest sibling definition for the male gender would be "The Nice Guy" because both are rooted in this false likeable persona that attempts to get the opposite genders attention and they react very emotionally and very inappropriately when rejected. Both are rooted in misogyny. Nice Guys have a false perception towards what women want and need and Pick Me Girls perform masculinity in order to be sociallly agreeable to other men, and both hate women who threaten them. (Also wanting attention isn't bad and if someone calls you an attention-seeker tell them to go kiss a flagpole in winter)
Funny how the "If you don't like it, don't read it" crowd can't stop reading the negative reviews they don't like. Very anti-critical-thinking stance in top of being a double standard.
all i will say about the depp vs. heard trial is that i think the reaction and response to it was utterly sickening. how on earth anybody thought it was at all appropriate to do shit like... well, in this case, write a fucking extreme horror fiction book "inspired" by the events is beyond me! if anything it really highlighted just how little progress has been made with regards to the amount of explicit misogyny leveled at women (and especially women who are victims of abuse). trial aside, to see the way people behaved consequently was heartbreaking.
I’m more mad about the hypocrisy; No one chased Emma Roberts out of the country. No one made conspiracies about or threats to Rhodes Hedlund. Everyone happily took Evan’s word when he said Emma’s arrest was a misunderstanding.
@@rileighdabbs1950 there’s also the fact that people suddenly “cared about victims” when it was a popular male actor (Depp) who was allegedly the victim of DV, but went back to not caring or being outright awful when *multiple* women have come out against a single man, some even citing the Depp/Heard case as justification that the accusers might be lying. What does this case have to do with any of the others, and how does this one unique case apparently delegitimize every other woman who comes forward with allegations of DV or SA?
@@farnregen the point is that we can't possibly know what the truth is either way. we can speculate, theorize, but who is that helping really? so with that being said, i think it's incredibly ghoulish to sit around laughing at domestic violence, turning it into memes, having companies jump in to profit off of the situation, etc. it sets a horrible precedent for future victims, who already feel like there's no point in coming forward with the abuse they endured, for fear that the abuse will simply continue but on a much wider scale.
@@cakt1991 it doesn't. they just wanted an excuse to hurl their vile rhetoric towards women, particularly those who are victims of abuse. :/ it's heartbreaking and maddening, to say the least. there is no such thing as a "perfect victim" when it comes to domestic violence, and i really wish men could understand that.
It's interesting that any man defending a woman against other men online is a white knight and "she'll never fuck you bro", but when a woman defends a man against another woman online it "proves his point". Anyways, I would like to wish in particular the women who harass(ed) Hailey over this a very Stand Up
What is super crazy to me is that this isn’t being talked about in one of the Horror book FB groups I am in. I feel like it’s either because no one knows about what Matt Shaw did or they are super fans and they don’t pay attention to that or it’s because Matt Shaw is in that FB group. I honestly am contemplating being in the group bc it’s kind of uncomfy knowing authors are in that group.
probably the first. I didn't know this man existed until like, right now. and I am that dude who quite enjoys horror bc his mom quite enjoys horror. so like. how. my mom reads scary books ALL the time. maybe not splatterpunk bc horror books with kids dying are hard to get through for her but I mean she'd definitely have at least HEARD of a splatterpunk book. and also... let's be real all of those women he's talking about and in his comments are definitely fake... I cannot IMAGINE an actual, living breathing adult woman looking at a cishet man doing this and not once going "that's a bit far." like, how the fuck do I know this is too much more than you do???? HOW??? also I mean the dude says he gets sent spicy pics by female fans all the time that's the biggest lie I've ever heard. it'd what a teenage cishet boy who's insecure about his love life would say to all his male friends to seem cool.
I like splatterpunk and extreme horror and until this, I'd read a few of his books and really didn't like his work but I didn't see any real notoriety. I wouldn't exactly call him a titan of the genre in my humble opinion.
@@ReadswithRachelpeople deleting posts that are criticizing them?! Color me fricken surprised... it's so God damn tiring. And he's the one saying that Haley is making an echo chamber.
I love the idea of a mental health professional reviewers. Getting a book review WITH trigger warnings. Win-win. Edit: "child porn" as a phrase is misleading. Children cant consent, it should be called child sexual abuse content.
@@myxini Then, why not call it sex abuse material in these cases as well? I'm sure adult survivors and their allies would appreciate the distinction as well.
Yeah it could’ve (and should’ve) been completely avoided if he just didn’t go uninvited into a reviewer space OR if he really cannot help himself from doing that… just raged about it to a friend in DMs instead of ALL THIS. So many choices were made, one after the other, and then he’s surprised at her not responding well to a series of choices that put her in a (to put it mildly) WEIRD position? Come on Matthew.
I'm (not) sorry but any time I see a comment like "I'm a (specific targeted group/minority) and I support you" I assume that it's either a fake account or some liar. I mean, how many times have we seen a comment from some white man who forgot to switch accounts before saying "I'm a woman and I agree with you!" or something like that? If someone has to announce what they are while supporting someone's harmful opinion, it's automatically sus to me.
All these men wanting the women to come on to their podcasts is just making me think of that dril tweet. “‘debate me! debate me!!’, i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob”
As someone who was a part of the BDSM community, people who say they have no limits are A) incorrect and B) dangerous. Tell that to an old-school Dom and they'll help you find your limits really fucken quickly. It is so important to slow down, and honestly consider yourself and your boundaries before leaping into a situation you regret, can't handle, and is potentially very damaging.
It's just so funny how Matt felt like he had to spend an entire freakin' PARAGRAPH in his "Moist Gusset" book to talk about how good he is in bed. Yup, nothing reads "totally secure about myself" more than that. 🙄
Talking about the misogyny rampant in horror/the book community/the world at large is so important, and I want to thank you for covering this creep as well as your previous implicit misogyny video. The amount of research, thought, and care you put into your content is incredible. I love the way that you cover issues from a loving standpoint? Sharing the facts and discussing hard topics, but not at the cost of any marginalized groups or anybody's mental health. Thank you for all that you do!
There's a difference between an echochamber and wanting to keep your peace of mind, and I wish people understood that more. I can know that people I never met despise me, but that doesn't entitle them to just hurt. You can have an opinion, we all do, but the fact people are getting more and more comfortable with requesting that you take whatever is thrown at you is scary.
I swear some people do not understand that when someone says "I do not recommend this thing that I did not like or enjoy" that the people who know their tastes often align with that person will go "Oh, I'll skip that one then" but there is ALSO people who will know that their tastes often does not align with them will go "Oh, I'll go check that out then!" In no way is a reviewer saying "I do not recommend this" forcing everyone who sees that review to not read the book. My husband (at the time boyfriend) used to have a roommate back before we moved in together whom I really disagreed with on a lot of things when it came to movies/shows/etc. We'd go to see a movie as a group and I'd walk out having really enjoyed it and he'd be "ranting" about how "bad" it was. I learned very quickly that if he said something isn't worth going to see, that it WAS worth going to see. Likewise if he did like something, I'd find it to be an ok at best and a very much not my cup of tea at worst. Our opinions on what we found to be good in movies/shows very rarely aligned, which was fine. It didn't stop us from getting along.
okay, that first tiktok video of him genuinely scared the crap out of me. the way he talks, his facial expressions, his eyes, especially at 44:02... god, just everything about him gives me the creeps and sends my heart racing in real panic. i can't even imagine what it must be like for Hayley, being subjected to all this harassment by this author who could very well be a psychopath... stay safe out there, girls.
Wait was his book's plot about a man who lives his life according to dice rolls that make him do bad things? Thats the premise of a popular GTA5 RP streamer's character 😭
speaking on the spoiler-free position, I know I'm unpopular opinion with this one but I definitely believe if your writing is compelling then the twist should land whether or not people know it's coming. if it landing hinges entirely on the reader not expecting it, then it has significantly diminished re-readibility value
I feel so badly for everyone victimized by Matt Shaw and his fandom. I can scarcely fathom the level and magnitude of insecurity the man has to have to resort to such abominably disgusting behaviors. Also, fun fact: the idea for "Roll of the Dice" is not even original. That was lifted from an episode of Mission: Impossible, where the antagonist used dice to decide everything they did. I'm sure there were other uses of that premise, but that's the one that sticks out to me.
A 2011 episode of the Big Bang Theory, Sheldon decides to let every decision fall to the roll of dice to free his mind of decision making to devote all his brain power to physics. They were D&D dice.
My take is it's a lift from the cult novel "The Dice Man", by Luke Rhinehart, originally published in 1971, and popular both in the U.S. and U.K. (It hasn't aged well, by the way.)
RULES FOR THIS VIDEOS COMMENTS SECTION:
-I do not wanna hear about the Johnny V Amber trial. I don't care about the trial at all. I only care about the way misogynists weaponized it. There's plenty of places to talk about the trial, this isn't one of them.
-Saying anything remotely dehumanizing gets you blocked.
This was EXACTLY my point of view.
you should absolutely care about this trial tbh rachel. this trial is the reason why misogyny is cool again, thanks to ben shapiro's 100 million tiktok campaign against Amber.
@@ChocolatexCherries3 do you have reading comprehension? She literally said she only cares about the way misogynists weaponized it.
@dingdongfootball5331 i can read but can you? you cannot care about the way misogynists weaponized the trial without caring about the trial itself. that's my point.
I think Rachel's made it very clear that's the only part she DOES care about. What she doesn't care for is to get drawn into a big online he said/she said ugly debate. She's literally said that there are plenty of other places to go and have that. Let her have her clearly stated boundaries!@@ChocolatexCherries3
I love when men are like: she's free to come debate me on my podcast. Aka you're free to come be talked over, belittled, and bullied in front of my audience. Gosh, why don't you want to come on my podcast? I'm just trying to be open! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Or better yet they’ll just edit out things to make the other look stupid and make it look like their argument feel flat 😅
MauLer is that you?
Yes it’s so weird that we don’t take them up on it!!
I legit don't get why people don't see someone say "No thank you, but I appreciate your offer." and don't think they're, idk, trying to difuse the situation??
Gotta know where they stand lol 🤷🏿♂️
matt shaw: **stalks her, dedicates his nasty book to her, gets extremely salty for her review, etc, etc**
also matt shaw: why is she scared of me?! peace and happiness!
Peace and happiness, loser Nazi female.
Wait, why can't we draw this out longer?
he's such a freak 😭
That clip was maddening. Classic cry-bully behavior.
But yet SHE's the emotional one. LOL right.
I worked with Matt Shaw years ago and can confirm. He’s really good at playing the “I’m just a quirky guy who writes quirky dark books” thing, but that’s not the case. He is cruel to people who don’t agree with him, needs to be the center of attention, and talks shit behind women’s backs even when he claims to be friends with them.
He doesn’t see himself as a misogynist, but he is. He’s also just… not nice a lot of the time when he doesn’t get his way. His general behavior is well known by the trail of former colleagues he’s left behind.
I don’t want to give any specifics because I still know people in his sphere. There’s so much I want to say, but his actions toward Hailey prove exactly how far he’s willing to take things.
Omg I’m so sorry thanks for sharing this
I’m a writer and have been for 9 years. I would be nice and respectful to others if I was him. I also would never wanna respond to any review.
I said this on Cindy's video and I'll say it again: the way he talks to and about her is just sexual harrassment, plain and simple. When you pair the winky faces and innuendos with the fact that his audience is vocal about her being deserving of myriad kinds of violence, you get a really dangerous situation. I can't believe that he had the *gall* to be offended when she wouldn't meet the him in any kind of private setting. Like dude, if you sexually harrass her in public, why do you think she'd be willing to risk being near you in private??
Also, Rachel's inflection on "I would *weep* for them if I wasn't so busy laughing at them" was freaking iconic
Totally, and the way he signs off his messages to her as "Love" half the time, when added to everything else, is weird af.
It’s a disturbing trend not just seen with this one book but most modern media today. My dad pointed it out to me years ago how a ton of shows push sex and violence into normalcy and he’d be disgusted by shows like criminal minds and gsme of thrones while the sex and violence together didn’t even phase me and I’m only now realizing just how desensitized the media has made us. Why would they want us to be desensitized to violence, sex and the resulting combination of sexual violence
Yeah, and it’s not unreasonable or insulting for someone to not want to meet in a private setting alone anyway even if he hadn’t already been acting like that, especially for a woman who’d be meeting a man, let alone one with any level of fame and following. It’s incredibly weird to take that as some kind of offense or insult. The only people he should be mad at are the people who make such wariness necessary in the first place. Get angry at the creeps, not the women trying not to become a statistic!
(Also lmfao at him calling her “you trout” in the dedication, such intense children’s show insult vibes)
@@KestrelDCexactly! It’s like women being told to stay indoors and travel in pairs instead of telling men not to be creeps! So infuriating!
Ironically, in trying to prove that he wasn’t a misogynist, he showed that he was not only in fact a misogynist, but ALSO a much WORSE misogynist than any of us could have possibly guessed
Regardless of which side one comes down on with that trial, the fact that so many people decided to use Amber as an excuse to demonize all women is horrifying.
Precisely
Suddenly people who couldn't care less about domestic abuse suddenly developed a lot oof very strong feelings about how women lie all the time.
I didn't go too deep following the trial but it's sad how I'm not surprised that men with bad takes used it like that.
I have a character named Amber, but her character was planned long before the trial.
@@marymac3572exactly! Those men don't give one shit about Johnny Depp or any other male victim of domestic violence, they just saw an opportunity to shit all over women and play the victim. I mean, the general public's reaction to Amber Heard - how absolutely vitriolic and hateful and extreme it was - vs the public's (especially men's) reaction to famous male abusers, is in itself proof that they are wrong when they claim we live in a society that favors & coddles women. I could sit here and name 100 famous men who have been imprisoned or in trouble for rape and abuse, who most people had no reaction to publicly. R Kelley literally had a compound full of underage girls he held captive, raped, abused, and tortured, for 20 YEARS before he was held accountable. And now he's mostly spoken of as a joke. Where is their righteous anger when speaking about the men who abuse women? When women abuse and are caught, everyone including other women condemn them and hold them accountable. But when it's a man doing the abuse, unfortunately the majority of men are silent.
"Yes I misspelled your name on purpose" also sounds like something that a 12 year old would say.
im so confused because he did spell it right in the dedication?
@@pinkskies21really?! That’s hilarious! What a dummy.
@@pinkskies21 Right??? I supposed someone photoshopped it so it would be accurate, but it is shitty and immature of him to do that at the first place
people DID say this to me in middle school lol
His comment about how the other extreme horror authors are the nicest men you would ever hope to meet made me laugh. He might as well have said that they aren't misogynists because they aren't misogynistic to me as a man.
The same as "I can't be racist because I have black friends" or "I'm not homophobic because I have a gay friend" (who was me, the token gay friend) and then say the nastiest shit about black and or LGBTQ+ people.
@@angelsartandgaming not even "i'm not racist because i have a black friend" but "please don't call white people racist, my white friends have never been racist towards me, a white man, and i've never seen them being racist towards people of color. sure, there are a few bad apples out there, but don't lump us innocent white people in with them!"
I bet he thinks he's one of the "nIcE gUyS"
And use it as a reason to not believe women 🙃
wait, he threw this epic level of tantrum over one negative review, and he thinks someone else has "delicate sensibilities"? lol. nothing says "I don't care about your reviews" like recording hours of video and writing long essays complaining about her reviews. sure.
Yep he's the one who is sensitive
IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL I SWEAR I'M FINE NO REALLY I AM
Guys like Shaw are *always* the thinnest skins and most easily-offended “snowflakes” (ironic) in the room. Always. Every single time.
@@MetalSamantha And the absolutely *least* self aware. sadly
He didn’t even get the phrase right, he said “delicate sensitivities”
“You’re so triggered about it” this man is the one tracking down her content to purposely misrepresent her. She’s an extreme horror reviewer just reading the genre she likes and doing her job by stating her opinion. Seems like he’s the one “triggered.” This dude is such a loser. Here’s hoping him and his misogynistic ilk leave you alone. Thank you for making this!
You are so right about matt 🎯
That right there gives me the impression he doesn't take trigger warnings seriously despite putting them ahead of his work
girl literally just went on with her day and had no clue Matt knew she existed bc iirc she only left a video review, so mad that he made an entire book, and then complained that she used Goodreads reviews to mention that it was based on her and that's kinda weird. and then the dude had the BALLS to be angry that she chose to leave her opinion on a cishet man writing a smut book based on her because of what she said ABOUT him. not even mentioning that the very same cishet man wrote a book in the 6th grade where he murders a girl he had an irl crush on because she rejected him irl.
I'm not buying a teenage boys torture porn fanfic about his crush but I'm gonna go with it's basically the rough draft of his stupid Amber Heard book. that'd explain how messed up it is at least. not his first time using violence as a punishment towards women when it comes to his writing.
if I saw Matt Shaw at a bar, I'm leaving the building and drinking outside until he's gone I don't want to be within his eyesight. if he can turn and see me I'm not far enough.
tbh I think that'd actually be EVERYONE'S reaction to Matt Shaw. No passion for the craft he works in - he doesn't utilize his skills for art - instead he just uses "extreme horror" as an excuse to write hundreds of pages of women being brutally r-worded and tortured.
what the hell is wrong with cis men
"you're triggered"
*wrote and published a whole book and dedicating it to her to prove how triggered he isn't*
She's triggered by bad books.
I commented this under Cindy's video and I feel it needs repeating. I don't care if someone is the literal embodiment of evil and has done the most heinous things imaginable. If they are a real life person, don't write torture porn about them. The fact this man wrote an entire book about an actual human being just to fantasize about hurting her is horrifying.
I would add if it comes to certain specific groups such as a jewish author writing about TP about hitler or na*is that at least while still understandably morally questionable at least it would be more understandable as these people are victims of a large history of generational trauma by these people mentioned, Matt Wash on the other hand is not a victim but wrote a torture porn of an actual victim whose crime was as Rachel mentioned not being the “perfect victim”
@@-dark-paradiseId argue dead people, especially dead tyrants, is a little different than a currently living person.
Nobody really cares if you write TP of some English king from 400 years ago.
They do care if you write it about their friend.
He basically called her every single stereotypically misogynistic insult including hysterical, overly emotional, dumb, fake, old, ugly, annoying, etc... but he's not a misogynist you guys! He's totally not weaponizing his power position as a man to intimidate, demean, attack, and cross women's boundaries with little to no consequences!
As a lesbian who loves horror (and sci-fi, another genre that feels unfairly co-opted by men often) it's so sickening to see so many male horror writers use the genre they're writing in as an excuse for misogyny (or racism, homophobia, etc). What a vile dude. Stay safe out there.
Same! I tend to try and seek out horror from either women or other marginalized folks so that I can try and avoid some of this bs
No lie, part of why I avoid horror is this right here. Female victims are almost always a Hallmark, and when so much of the genre is dominated by men, depicting overwhelmingly women being brutalized and murdered, I just don't trust the genre as a whole. That may not sound fair, but where there's smoke, there is often fire, and I do not need that smoke
@Sharvalgon while I appreciate your input like any other's, I think we are past the point of saying something along the idea of let's separate art from artist, this author had times again proved that his beliefs are a direct result of his misogyny. Art is so intricate and so bound to the existence of a human's glance that you can't separate them without its authenticity being synthesised.
And while I agreed that not all victims are women or girls, it is strange that one group's presence outweighs the other, no?
@@Listening_Books12345 It could be dry ice causing that smoke, that's used a lot in horror too.
In all honesty, you might not want to hear this (especially with how cliche this is going to sound), but guys are just as victimized in horror movies as women are. If you see enough of these movies (especially slashers), you'll notice that men get killed just as often, and just as graphically, as women do.
Granted, women are sexualized more often in horror movies (again, especially slashers) than men are. So you could definitely make the argument that guys are more the target audience for slasher movies (though polling numbers on this are all over the place).
I will admit that I'd still like to see more female creators in the genre however, though it seems that's already happening to a degree.
I’m a folklore student currently finishing my BA and starting my MA, and I’m writing my thesis’ on a certain Finnish 18th century women’s rights activist. Most of my materials are early 1900s news papers and let me tell you, reading those papers have both been rough and illuminating: these articles -all written by men, all fighting against the so-called terror of feminism- use all the same arguments MRAs and anti-feminists use today. ”Women are too emotional”, ”women are fragile and sensitive”, ”these women must be bitter and jealous”, ”being against misogynistic writing means you’re against freedom of speech”… I truly feel like I’m living in the Twilight Zone, reading All These Same Arguments being used by 18th century ”gentlemen”, then opening ANY social media app and seeing them all over again, this time being used by ”nice guys”.
I don’t know what to say anymore, except thank you for the video. The subject matter might (some day) drive me insane, but it’s an important one to discuss.
I remember seeing some anti-sufferage pamplets at a museum and it's pretty much the same stuff. Misogyny never really changes.
that's such a funny (but not really) comparison, rlly shows the progress in the world. next time a man mentions how much better women are treated now vs back then I hope they get those articles shoved in their face
I never interpreted Hailey saying to examine yourself if you have no limits as a judgement. I interpret it as ‘examine yourself deeply for any potential limits before you accidentally find a hard limit and regret it’.
I took it as "if you truly think you have absolutely 0 hard limits, maybe consider that 1) you may be wrong, 2) that's NOT the case for most people so don't be a d!ck"
I feel like extreme horror is just an excuse for some men to write about their fantasies of torturing and raping women and children.
And also apparently animals, given that Hailey's review of A Roll of the Dice contained bestiality
This man is giving massively unsafe vibes 😭Something about creating torture content about an irl person and then dedicating a book to [another] irl person seems rather threat-adjacent, if not an overt threat in itself. All the terrible AI art covers need to go straight to jail also, do not pass go do not collect $200. Thank you for speaking out! I found D's channel through your channel and he's awesome! So sorry about all the jerks who post terrible things, they're just proving the point.
The AI covers are the worst omg! The worst part is he claims a lot of them as his own art, and when caught out says he does ‘minor tweaks’ to some of them.
yeah, he gives off major rapist vibes, and I say that in all seriousness, not as hyperbole.
It's just... wild how Matt Shaw was a small piece of Hailey's video, but then she became his life for months after. But of course SHE'S the one with the delicate sensibilities 🙄
Let this serve as a case study: If you need to resort to misogyny to argue with someone, your opponent has already won. (Also, the bit about his fish unaliving itself so that it wouldn't have to listen to him talk about how angry he is at a woman he's never met is comedy gold.)
The fish didn't want to listen to him talk any more, full stop.
@@kbird6208"YOU TALK TO YOUR MOTHER WITH THAT MOUTH?!"
- the fish, probably.
I'm just imagining the fish being like "how DARE you speak of her that way my mother was a lovely fish! when I was a child my mother would've pushed me if I spoke that way about a woman!" it's just.
so fucking funny.
Yea, at the moment you attack someone's character instead of the argument of piece typically you have lost the point. Very rarely is addressing someone's character a way to actually win an argument, it typically has to do with if a person's held beliefs are what drive said action and then while it looks like character attacks it's done from an objective place and not actually attacking them as a person but the beliefs they choose to hold.
it's really disgusting when misogynists frame themselves as victims and keep ranting about it.
Seeing as how die-hard his fans are, I'm surprised you didn't end up hearing about why that is! Allegedly, Matt is very okay with his fans finding his personal phone number and email (I believe he said "If anyone wants to talk, my information is out there!" in an interview), and is currently in a Whatsapp groupchat with several of them. These people think he's so cool and "down to earth" because he formed a personal relationship with them about his books and probably his opinions about Haley. If this is true, then Matt placed himself in a position of a "friend" to these people to garter more sympathy and encouragement for his behavior and is essentially using their "ride or die" mentality for his own gain.
Oh no I became very familiar with the fact that he’s leaned into the parasocial relationships to an alarming degree after I had a woman in my comments claim matt could basically do no wrong because he was nice to her and her husband to the point where she considered him a friend. I was…alarmed.
It's giving narcissistic cult leader 😵💫
@@breem2999lets… not use actual mental disorders to insult bad people. I do agree with the sentiment though
@@godscomplex13I understand what you're saying. But I wasn't using narcissistic as an insult. I was being accurately descriptive. He sounds like he has many narcissistic traits (I didn't say he has NPD) and he has amassed a cult-like following.
It's always the most triggered people calling others triggered. The call is coming from inside the house Matt.
As someone who lives with easily triggered parents and brother who constantly called anyone who disagrees with them "triggered" , i just wanna say : LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
I'm a massive Splatterpunk fan and let me just say: Thank you so much for covering this. There are so many amazing people that write for this genre but there is also a deep rooted issue with the community and some authors within it. Some people think that because they are in a smaller, darker niche, that any criticism against them is either from outside the community and in bad faith, or from people "too sensitive" to handle the art they make. Its a pervasive attitude in the community and its a big problem, especially since its roots were with countercultural movements in the 80's and has so many great LGBTQ+ and women authors that were the original genre-defining voices. Its a bummer how far it seems to have fallen, but I am thankful that there are still modern writers that keep the Punk in Splatterpunk and are either allies to or members of the communities that this boys-club mentality hurts so badly.
I’m also a fan and what’s so frustrating is the absolute rejection of any opinion that doesn’t fall in line with the group’s opinion. I’ve read several authors who got famous thru the extreme horror booktok community and I was very disappointed in their books. But no one voices any dissenting opinion and I feel like if I did, people would accuse me of not being a real fan or being too sensitive. Like, no, your book is just badly written and honestly not that interesting
REAL SPLATTERPUNK IS CAPITAL-Q QUEER ON PURPOSE 🤘🤘🤘
YES AFTER THE LIKES OF JOHN WATERS OR DIVINE OR OTHER PIONEERS OF HORROR AND FILTH HOW CAN Y'ALL PRETEND THAT SPLATTERPUNK ISNT QUEER???
Incel (splatter)punks, eff off!!
I talked about this over on the extreme horror subreddit and I was so relieved when a lot of people felt the same way I did. Oftentimes, negative posts there about Beauregard and Shaw do not go over well
Whenever people refer to women as females. I just picture a Ferengi.
Same.
its like ferengi are a parallel to misogynists? but what do i know I'm just a woman
"Females do not deserve the honor of clothing!" Is the line in TNG that pretty much sums up the ferengi perfectly. Sleazy, misogynistic, ugly, weasely, and highly punchable.
it's wild to me that horror, a genre created by a woman, has become oversaturated by rampant misogyny, ableism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and a complete disregard for marginalized groups when it was made to uplift those who felt ostracized from society. this is why i say i'm on a bipoc creatives diet monetarily-it's shit like this that makes me feel safe in extremely small pockets of white book spaces (like your channel and hailey's). also i'm glad you're taking care of yourself. these videos are rough and i'm sending you much love.
By created by a woman are you referring to Mary Shelley?
I feel like ppl told ghost stories long before Shelly (I'm Nigerian and we got horror tales going back centuries, as a culture.) But I could wrong
@@Enbionic_Titan I've always thought Frankenstein was horror, but my friend recently told me it's sci-fi and is considered the mother of all sci-fi.
@@strangementalitypaperYT it qualifies as both. Technically I think a case could be made for Urban Fantasy as well.
@@strangementalitypaperYTit’s both
It's funny that he mentions Duncan Ralston. I'm in the horror community and a woman commented on the medical inaccuracies in Woom and how it caused her to DNF. He responded and used ad hominem attacks and then a bunch of his fans messaged her, threatened her, and even followed her to another FB group where she posted about the situation and flooded the comments.
Yeah, Duncan Ralston was a complete shit head about the Matt situation too and that’s why I have him blocked on every social media possible.
@@ReadswithRachel the irony that the authors in extreme who are so quick tell people how their work is not for the easily offended are the ones who always have the biggest issue when someone criticizes them.
@@ReadswithRachel Ralston left a bunch of outright lies and gaslighty garbage in the comments of a friend of mine who commented on this situation.
I'm in a horror Facebook group with him and he is blocked from seeing my posts because I want to be able to freely talk about books without feeling threatened. I really should do that to all the authors in that group. A lady made a post about not enjoying one of his books and many women commented warning her about this very thing.
The misrepresenting of her is AWFUL. He does his BEST to make her out to be exactly what she's NOT and it's awful. Also saying "those are the people who are not worth your time" when he's keeping track of her and kinda coming off as obsessing over her. By his own logic she "shouldn't be worth his time." Just yikes.
EDIT TO ADD: "If you don't like my stuff, no problem, I don't care" OHHHHH MY GOD. It's hard to tell if it's him being disingenuous or just THAT lacking in self awareness. I'm LEANING the former but it's really hard to tell sometimes.
I usually give crochet for Xmas, but I wonder how annoyed everyone would be if they got bell hooks this year 🤔
There’s a joke, somewhere here, relating bell hooks, and crochet hooks. I’m just not intelligent enough to make that joke.
@@ReadswithRachel Unravel toxic masculinity with hooks? Meh. I’m not smart enough either.
Hear me out: crochet book covers for bell hooks? Then it's a hook pun and a double gift. If book covers are, impossible, forgive me, I'm not a fiber artist.
@@StayGreenBDifferent I think you’re on to something. It would be hard to make a cover for a paperback, which would be more affordable, so I think maybe a little crochet sleeve pocket thing. Or a stocking!
@ReadswithRachel Don't let the missed opportunity needle you; this close-knit community of reviewers surely contains some folks who are hooked on puns, sew someone should soon deliver the joke you're yarning for. Your ability to rip into crochet-y misogynists like Mark Shaw is more than enough for us
I'm more concerned about the fact that so many women were on his side defending him like their lives depended on it
“Worst type of person in the world is one who plays the victim” uhhhh no. I can think of 100000 worse kinds of people in 30 seconds
Agreed
I’m so confused because on what planet does watching someone for MONTHS (secretly***), that you’ve never spoken to, then writing a book (any genre) AND dedicating it to them and use that as a brag behind their back NOT SCREAM EFFED UP?? What?? That is creepy as hell.
They 👏 are 👏 strangers 👏
“I can step back” bro. You dedicated a book to her
Matt is a pile of red flags, and so are his supporters who just overlook his behavior; and worse yet applauded it. God. It was a book review. Authors need to grow a thicker skin or don't f'ing write. Glad you covered this. Keep shining that light.
He seems to be the Classic Case of Dude who seems to think His british accent and Lack of shouting means that Hes Not being a disrespectful tw*t. Happens more often than Id Like 😅😅
@@annabeinglazy5580 As a UK Person (against my will) I can confirm that there are millions of people here who genuinely believe that if you are calm, and not swearing, and not shouting “I’m gonna get you” etc, then that has to mean that what you are saying is fair and reasonable
Which, of course, it does not
Exactly. My skin is more thicker than his being an author myself. If someone said a bad review on any of my books I just let it go and keep working on improving my writing.
I looked him up and he has almost 150 books that he's written in only 15 years. That's ten books per year. I've been writing since the year 2000, had my first complete book in 2002, and I only have 50 books. How someone can write and publish 10 books a year is beyond me.
I thought I was fast since I finish stories within a year or two of when I first think about them. I'm honestly horrified at the fact he did this, like it I can't imagine hating someone so much. This book is a disgrace and the author should stop writing, and finds some peace with himself.
Edit: Only have 50? You wrote 50 books in 23 years. That's 2 books a year. That's amazing!
congrats on having written 50 books! that's really impressive!!
Yea it’s wild how many books he has written! I thought it was kind of weird but no one seemed to call it out in the SP community
Not to be crass, probably pumps and dumps them - pun intended. You could probably add no editing sequence to that either. If it's none of that, perhaps they're more novella's than full length books.
@@chelle_nz
Novellas are really easy to write tbh. You still gotta put work into it but 25k isn't as daunting as like 40k.
It’s always so weird to me when someone accuses a reviewer of somehow keeping readers from reading. Nobody is doing that… because nobody can do that. It’s a weird argument.
Yeah, how does she have the power to tell anyone what to do? If you say "don't support this author, he's really nasty to reviewers" that compels absolutely no one to comply.
he talks about it like he believes she has complete psychic control over her audience and can bend them to her every whim
the girl isn’t thanos like what could she do to make people stop reading?
I think it is because they think they are entitled to people reading their books. So if somebody doesn't read their book, because of a negative review, they feel like this reads were stolen from them.
Esp when the majority of reviewers I watch (and i watch way too many) almost ALWAYS give like a statement like “i didnt like this BUT if you reader like xyz subjects/plots/themes/etc then you’ll like this” like i rarely see reviews actually try to dissuade people from reading anything 💀
Also, couldn't this also be qualified as harassment or abuse of some kind?
IT SHOULD!!! I mean, this man literally just told the whole fricken' world that his fans send him nudes! which imma be honest is GROSS!! if I was one of those fans I'd be horrified! A man who does THAT definitely doesn't have "innocent intentions" with this thing! especially when he says it in the book he's harassing someone with! listen I'm not a woman but if another man did all of that to me, I'd see him rambling about all the pics his female fans get sent as way too close to sexual harassment. especially knowing he wrote a smut book because of ME.
this man literally wrote a book as a kid about him brutalizing his crush bc she rejected him!!!!
laws usually don't care when it's digital abuse
@@chocomelo454 I definitely think that guy was lying through his teeth about that. Very 'Oh you think I can't write women? Well girls literally send me panties in the mail and write litanies of how steamy my books are', fake bravado. Still dunno how literally publicly antagonizing Haley isn't landing him a charge, or maybe it's like stalking where they'll only take action if he showed up at her house :/
@@MegaChadAnakinthat is untrue. There is probably actually not only a civil suit but also federal crimes committed by the author and his fans. At the very least if she stopped posting she could show a loss of revenue caused by the harassment he incited which is ground for recompense legally in a civil suit. Just need more people to push it into law enforcement hands though that depends on the affected people and if they want to go through with some of this.
I love how he says "Amber Heard deserved her abuse!" While also saying "Amber Heard is lying about her abuse!" My brother in Christ you're literally a writer
"That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, it's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it."
What is it with misogynistic men and asking the women they are harassing to "come do a podcast" with them? It's a weird trend.
Because they are narcissistic.
There are way too many podcasts in this world.
they want an excuse to shout at them in person so they can cut it into a video and proclaim they have "destroyed" their opposition
@@katea6721that's exactly it. It's a way to let them control the narrative. If he really wanted to talk they could have done an unrelated third party podcast but I suspect he would run from that. Anyone that soft is by definition a coward and cowards are terrified of not being in control.
Even ignoring the brutally perverse issue of making fanfiction hurting real life human beings to entertain your own sick fantasy, at the very least you have to be willing to understand it is not okay to dedicate a splatterpunk horror to a reviewer who just, coincidentally, didn't like your work. That in itself is a threat, and he blew it off when he confronted her multiple times, because he cannot understand how a woman can take issue with how horrifying that can be? Like imagine waking up and your name is permenantly attached to a piece of ill-written garbage that involves incredibly insensitive themes, and there's a very large chance that you and your image are now involved in that piece of fiction. That is absolutely sickening???
If this is someone's introduction to splatterpunk (or even horror in general) I am so embarrassed. This community has some incredible artists and authors who really produce some of the best self-published work I've seen in years, and it's all going down the drain because he does something better than writing a horror novel: he becomes the antagonist of one, with his incredibly gross behavior and obsession with a woman who just likes reading.
Im a survivor too. This video is very important to me now. Thank you for making it. Most days I don’t have the energy to take care of myself, let alone the energy to thoughtfully and concisely eviscerate a misogynist. So I’m glad to know there are people like you out here advocating for us.
I'm glad you're here friend
Imagine being an extreme horror writer and having such thin skin.
It’s amazing how Shaw goes from gleefully announcing how his horror books are going to shock people, only to throw a weapons-grade tantrum because he was accused of writing books that solely exist to shock people.
he is insane. he dedicated a book to her and we all know his meaning and then goes "mind your own bussiness... peace and happiness". INSANE
I for SURE notice that these men never come out for male victims of abuse who are: trans, disabled, underage, men of color, all of whom are often victims. But when there's a case with someone famous and powerful, they'll jump on there just to say absolutely disgusting things about a woman. It really goes to show what the real priority is. (I always love to hear how good a man your husband is, in the work he continues doing on himself and how he supports you, it's just really good to see that in the world, by the way)
Definitely. I'm a non-binary trans guy and I'm disabled, and those people paint me off as a 'confused girl'. They're only about 'support' for men when they use it to put down minorities. Imagine if they put all that energy in dismantling toxic masculinity and encouraging men to be emotionally developed and healthy instead of hateful towards women.
Tbh? As a women, this situation is absolutely terrifying and I don't think I'd ever be able to explain it properly to men. Like it's so foreign to them, they didn't grow up with the same fear we had to grow up with, that it's something that I'm not sure that even with their best intentions and tries, they'll ever understand emotionally?
I think that is rather dehumanizing of men for you to think that they can't understand something if you explain it. We are both humans and me being male does not make me any less unable to understand emotions than you.
I mean if I said women don't understand the fear of violence about being a male, that would be disingenuous as though you not being a sex means you can not understand.
You might not have experience in what it's like to be male but it does not mean you can't understand if I explain the fact that males have an inherent amount of violence behind their words which keeps men acting civilized though some people decide that violence is something that is ok to use to force others to do what you want instead of for protecting yourself from others forcing you to do something.
@@mattiOTX I have a boyfriend. He lives in the middle of a city. He's the sweetest person to have ever existed. He wouldn't hurt a a fly nor even think of it. One time we were in the subway and a drunk man came to talk to us. It was midnight. I grew up hearing about how women were raped and murdered by drunk man. Maybe that man was super sweet, I had no way of doing that. It was terrifying. When I told that to my boyfriend, he was surprised. He knew it could get scary for women at night, but he had no clue how bad. I'm not saying men don't know, I'm saying they don't know *how much*. Women grow up hearing about horror stories, about how our mothers were harrassed, raped and threatened by some man who thought they owed him something or that their no meant yes. When I was a teen, a friend of mine screamed at me in public, got aggressive, because I told him I wasn't in love with him. He said I was the girl of his dream, that I *had* to. I don't live my life thinking "what will I do if I get raped", I live it thinking "what will I do *when* I get raped". Men don't. They have their own problems I will never fully grasp because I'm not a man. It's not about being unable to understand emotions, it's about living an experience way too different to be able to fully get it. I'll never get how it feels to be told that crying is bad and that I need to be strong because guys are strong. I know how it feels to feel as if I'm not allowed to cry, but I still won't fully get it. I can only try to. Same goes for men and the fear this society has told us to feel around them.
@@adrasthe314 ok, I see your point. At the very least I can understand the fear of impending horror. I'm trans so I do also understand the fear of being on the receiving end of sexual assault though being from Texas I'm a big proponent of firearms are a great equalizer as I'm only about 120 pounds and that does not make for a great weight or muscle mass of defending myself but at the very least I did not grow up worried about when something like violence being used against me, only that it was always a chance that it could occur. Thank you for engaging with me.
@@mattiOTX it's a pleasure :) it's by engaging with people that we get to understand their views and how their experiences shaped it! After all, I have absolutely no doubt that we're all on the same team at the end of the day!
Around 43-46 minutes, you really get a sense of his true goal : gatekeeping the genre he writes in to minimize the amount of criticism he receives. Because if a woman doesn't like his book, clearly she can't handle extreme horror and splatterpunk. SHE is the problem, not him and HIS WRITING! Because he is able to have his opinion and not like her criticism, but it is entirely unfair of her, in his mind, to have a negative opinion of him in the first place.
She didnt have murder porn written about her, she just had a 'romance' book dedicated to her and was reffered to online by the name I have written murder porn about. I see no reason this would be easily confused amd also theyre totally normal things to do" -Matt Shaw
The fact that you have to wait to see if you can talk about a person just to keep yourself and your family safe is disgusting! Sending all the love and support you deserve, You are worth so much more !!
The clip of Matt's tiktok just kept going onnn 😭 for someone who couldn't care less about what other people think he sure is making long videos about these people
"I don't care! I don't care!" screams man who actually cares very deeply.
Absolutely agree with you 100000000% about the Amber Heard thing. I was invested for such different, personal reasons that it messed with me to see all the blatant sexism being thrown towards her and just in general. even though in hindsight it was pretty obvious I suppose. Ik you said you dont wanna hear it, i just want to agree about the sexism thats prevalent with it. Sorry if its still unwanted, i can delete.
Nah you’re good I got you
Yeah it's why I stopped having the discussions online. Right from the first moment misogynistic men (and women who support them) always assume the woman is lying. But on a public stage, regardless of who is really at fault, they will find every excuse imaginable to make it sound and look like we're liars and THEY are the victims, by default.
I'm not proud of some things I've said to misogynists over that. But maybe, in hindsight, I needed to do it.
These people are the scum of humanity, imo.
His book titles sound like the sort of fake book titles you'd hear sitcom characters read off when they're asked what they're reading.
"Life is too short for negativity" says man snobbily stoking negativity 🙄
Your "now my computer's being a misogynist" joke made me giggle. Reminded me quite a bit of my finacee and how she tells inanimate objects that they're homophobic when they cause random inconveniences lol
God, I am 17 minutes in and I think I am gonna have to tap out. The vibes of this man are rancid.
He basically said if you don't like some books in a genre don't read that genre. Which is mad weird. As if anyone likes every book in their favorite genre.
Also, "they're some of the nicest guys you'll ever meet." To YOU. To YOUUUUUU. A man. They're nice to youuuuuuuu because you're a mannnnnnnnnn. Please, Shaw. Develop a critical thinking skill. At least one. Please. We're begging.
It’s nonsense, especially since I feel like you are harsher for books in your favourite genre because you know the genre inside and out so can pick out when it’s mediocre or just done badly. I feel I’m a much harsher reviewer for romance and fantasy, (and cosy mystery) than I am thrillers or historical fiction. Because you can’t get anything past me in a genre I read all the time.
For a book ive read that’s not my fav genre if I don’t like it I’ll usually be like three stars it wasn’t for me.
For a book in MY genres I’ll be like “this is a two (or one) because of this and this and this and this. “
@@annd2631 yeah that's a great point! If you like the genre you know what you like within the genre. She even had receipts for books in the genre that she did really like.
Something I found so insidious as well is that he would ha ha at her and make fun of her for (rightfully) being upset about being so targeted and basically said she was "playing the victim" when that's literally all he did. "She was mean about my book, so I took that super personally and decided to be frightfully unhinged about it." He went very out of his way to try to seem like he was taking the high road, when in fact dude was digging a tunnel. That's pretty gross. And manipulative. And gross...once more for good measure.
1:37:15 Why he keeps dedicating books to a woman who clearly wants nothing to do with him? Simple. It's a way to interact with her against her consent and target his one brain cell Andy fans at her.
Yeah, the trial thing and especially men's reactions to it (and even how people of many genders used the language of social justice to hide misogyny), like you said, acting VINDICATED and excited to let out all the violent fantasies toward women they've been storing up for years... It was disgusting. It made me sick.
Exactly!
gonna take a second to mention how insanely healthy your "i don't wanna see it" stance is. it's so easy to fall down the rabbithole of depreciation and consuming content that actively harms us, and you actively saying "no" to that is so dope. i hope it helps some people also adapt that mindset.
(Not debating the trial in this comment! Just commenting on your insight!)
I'm glad you talked about the Depp v. Heard trial like this. I watched the trial in its entirety and since I don't have any social media outside of Tumblr, I wasn't getting any of the discourse about it until it was mentioned in the trial and by the legal commentators I watch on TH-cam. The court of public opinion has little impact on me because I'm so out of the loop, but I see how the trial has harmed actual victims of abuse and it breaks my fucking heart.
I deleted my earlier comment since I see the rules and I realized it was getting too close to a debate. I'm not debating anything. I'm more interested in how people are so fucking immune to facts and evidence and their own contradictions like Matt and his damn cronies. People seriously need to get a grip.
i’m literally minutes in and it’s so heartbreaking (and telling) that (mostly women) creators are scared to make videos about these kinds of people. im actually disgusted
"I'm not owned! I'm not owned! i insist as i shrink and transform into a corn cob" - Matt, probably
The whole part where Shaw claims she doesn't read books is so telling. I come from a literature bachelor and master's degree, and the amount of "casual" doubt about authorship and integrity that is thrown at women isn't new. It's part of the misogyny continuum, but it is veiled in "this is a plow to make us believe a person, who is coincidentally a woman, is more intelligent than what they really are". But it's never a coincidence, because the doubt is never"coincidentally" thrown at men. It's systemic. It's just a new way to be converted about it, a nice fun little dog whistle who brings all the boys to the yard.
If I had a nickel for every time an incel used the punchline "because f*** you that's why" I could retire today. Instant ick.
Just wanted to get a big heads up that extreme horror/splatterpunk is a very vast genre with authors from all walks of life (including Brett Ellis, the author of American Psycho, who is a queer man along with Poppy C Brite, Judith Sonnet, and Judy Ramirez who is mixed woman). We have some really great men in the community who are not problematic such as John Athan. We fight tooth and nail for the freedom of publishing and creative writing, so please don’t think this includes all of us, but most of us understand that this type of literature is polarizing.
Oh the genre has so many great folks!
Man the British accent is doing a lot of heavy lifting for making him sound affable and smart... then you tune into the words and realize its meaningless word salad. He couldn't find his way to a cohesive point if it had string tied to one end
That posh britsh accent when he said "fries for those who are American". I cringed so hard that I felt in my American soul.
I'm European (not British tho) and my neck hairs just stood up. So condescending and cringe.
That trial has been nothing but an endless nightmare. It should have just been an individual case of a terrible relationship. Instead it’s the battering ram for misogyny. People bring it up everywhere for everything. It’s killing me. Public discourse has been poisoned for the next decade
Right, it even popularised mythical concepts like "mutual abuse". The damage done against female abuse victims is crazy.
What I find very telling, that instead of supporting male victims of abuse (which is possible without spewing misogyny) the whole Thing was used to legitimize misogyny
Like no matter where you fall on the side of the debate, that trial being televised turned it to nothing but a circus and a net loss for SA victims everywhere.
it’s funny how they never bring up other cases with PROVEN assault happening against women everyday
I watched With Cindy's video on this and I was really hoping you would do one too. This situation is so wild.
My ex left me for his best friend and I learned that behind closed doors she called me a "Pick Me" when she really just meant "Attention-Seeker" and I had to explain to HER ex, a very confused man at this point, the difference between an "attnetion seeker" and a "Pick Me" because he had NO idea why I reacted so viscerally and he got very very confused when I said something like, "Friends do not call their friends misogynists behind their back." I've concluded that people are starting to use "Pick Me" as just a definitionless insult that's got something to do with attention.
Because like (I'm ranting now) the Pick Me is undenibaly a female insult because of how specific it is. And our closest sibling definition for the male gender would be "The Nice Guy" because both are rooted in this false likeable persona that attempts to get the opposite genders attention and they react very emotionally and very inappropriately when rejected. Both are rooted in misogyny. Nice Guys have a false perception towards what women want and need and Pick Me Girls perform masculinity in order to be sociallly agreeable to other men, and both hate women who threaten them.
(Also wanting attention isn't bad and if someone calls you an attention-seeker tell them to go kiss a flagpole in winter)
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
Funny how the "If you don't like it, don't read it" crowd can't stop reading the negative reviews they don't like.
Very anti-critical-thinking stance in top of being a double standard.
all i will say about the depp vs. heard trial is that i think the reaction and response to it was utterly sickening. how on earth anybody thought it was at all appropriate to do shit like... well, in this case, write a fucking extreme horror fiction book "inspired" by the events is beyond me! if anything it really highlighted just how little progress has been made with regards to the amount of explicit misogyny leveled at women (and especially women who are victims of abuse). trial aside, to see the way people behaved consequently was heartbreaking.
I’m more mad about the hypocrisy; No one chased Emma Roberts out of the country. No one made conspiracies about or threats to Rhodes Hedlund. Everyone happily took Evan’s word when he said Emma’s arrest was a misunderstanding.
even if she lied about everything that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to be tortured. Its scary
@@rileighdabbs1950 there’s also the fact that people suddenly “cared about victims” when it was a popular male actor (Depp) who was allegedly the victim of DV, but went back to not caring or being outright awful when *multiple* women have come out against a single man, some even citing the Depp/Heard case as justification that the accusers might be lying. What does this case have to do with any of the others, and how does this one unique case apparently delegitimize every other woman who comes forward with allegations of DV or SA?
@@farnregen the point is that we can't possibly know what the truth is either way. we can speculate, theorize, but who is that helping really? so with that being said, i think it's incredibly ghoulish to sit around laughing at domestic violence, turning it into memes, having companies jump in to profit off of the situation, etc. it sets a horrible precedent for future victims, who already feel like there's no point in coming forward with the abuse they endured, for fear that the abuse will simply continue but on a much wider scale.
@@cakt1991 it doesn't. they just wanted an excuse to hurl their vile rhetoric towards women, particularly those who are victims of abuse. :/ it's heartbreaking and maddening, to say the least. there is no such thing as a "perfect victim" when it comes to domestic violence, and i really wish men could understand that.
It's genuinely so scary how fast men on the internet can escalate
It's interesting that any man defending a woman against other men online is a white knight and "she'll never fuck you bro", but when a woman defends a man against another woman online it "proves his point".
Anyways, I would like to wish in particular the women who harass(ed) Hailey over this a very Stand Up
What is super crazy to me is that this isn’t being talked about in one of the Horror book FB groups I am in. I feel like it’s either because no one knows about what Matt Shaw did or they are super fans and they don’t pay attention to that or it’s because Matt Shaw is in that FB group. I honestly am contemplating being in the group bc it’s kind of uncomfy knowing authors are in that group.
From what I heard they were actively deleting posts about it
probably the first. I didn't know this man existed until like, right now. and I am that dude who quite enjoys horror bc his mom quite enjoys horror. so like. how.
my mom reads scary books ALL the time. maybe not splatterpunk bc horror books with kids dying are hard to get through for her but I mean she'd definitely have at least HEARD of a splatterpunk book.
and also... let's be real all of those women he's talking about and in his comments are definitely fake... I cannot IMAGINE an actual, living breathing adult woman looking at a cishet man doing this and not once going "that's a bit far." like, how the fuck do I know this is too much more than you do???? HOW???
also I mean the dude says he gets sent spicy pics by female fans all the time that's the biggest lie I've ever heard. it'd what a teenage cishet boy who's insecure about his love life would say to all his male friends to seem cool.
I like splatterpunk and extreme horror and until this, I'd read a few of his books and really didn't like his work but I didn't see any real notoriety. I wouldn't exactly call him a titan of the genre in my humble opinion.
@@ReadswithRachelpeople deleting posts that are criticizing them?! Color me fricken surprised... it's so God damn tiring. And he's the one saying that Haley is making an echo chamber.
I love the idea of a mental health professional reviewers. Getting a book review WITH trigger warnings. Win-win.
Edit: "child porn" as a phrase is misleading. Children cant consent, it should be called child sexual abuse content.
You’re correct and I need to remember this in the future
@WinterCicadas No. Next.
since when did the word "porn" necessarily imply consent? tons of it is ALL about lack of consent and abuse.
@@myxini Then, why not call it sex abuse material in these cases as well? I'm sure adult survivors and their allies would appreciate the distinction as well.
@@moustik31 coz it's easy. It's umbrella term. Also it's not "sex" sex implies concent. It's r*p*. You can't even condescend right. "nO. nExT 🧐"
The thing is his reaction is what started the whole thing. She made a review. And he decided to harass her for it.
Yeah it could’ve (and should’ve) been completely avoided if he just didn’t go uninvited into a reviewer space OR if he really cannot help himself from doing that… just raged about it to a friend in DMs instead of ALL THIS. So many choices were made, one after the other, and then he’s surprised at her not responding well to a series of choices that put her in a (to put it mildly) WEIRD position? Come on Matthew.
I'm (not) sorry but any time I see a comment like "I'm a (specific targeted group/minority) and I support you" I assume that it's either a fake account or some liar. I mean, how many times have we seen a comment from some white man who forgot to switch accounts before saying "I'm a woman and I agree with you!" or something like that? If someone has to announce what they are while supporting someone's harmful opinion, it's automatically sus to me.
All these men wanting the women to come on to their podcasts is just making me think of that dril tweet. “‘debate me! debate me!!’, i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob”
Hailey: take a moment to figure out your triggers and stuff
Matt: She’s saying you guys are awful
This is next level creepy for men on the internet.
He never even considered the possibility that his fish died because having to listen to his irritating rambling destroyed its will to live.
I heard about this, and I hate everything about what he did. Wow. Thank you for covering this.
if matt continues this harassment, i hope haley considers getting a restraining order against him because he’s fucking insane
As someone who was a part of the BDSM community, people who say they have no limits are A) incorrect and B) dangerous. Tell that to an old-school Dom and they'll help you find your limits really fucken quickly.
It is so important to slow down, and honestly consider yourself and your boundaries before leaping into a situation you regret, can't handle, and is potentially very damaging.
It's just so funny how Matt felt like he had to spend an entire freakin' PARAGRAPH in his "Moist Gusset" book to talk about how good he is in bed. Yup, nothing reads "totally secure about myself" more than that. 🙄
Talking about the misogyny rampant in horror/the book community/the world at large is so important, and I want to thank you for covering this creep as well as your previous implicit misogyny video. The amount of research, thought, and care you put into your content is incredible. I love the way that you cover issues from a loving standpoint? Sharing the facts and discussing hard topics, but not at the cost of any marginalized groups or anybody's mental health. Thank you for all that you do!
This whole situation is creepier than any of these bad self-published extreme horror books.
There's a difference between an echochamber and wanting to keep your peace of mind, and I wish people understood that more. I can know that people I never met despise me, but that doesn't entitle them to just hurt. You can have an opinion, we all do, but the fact people are getting more and more comfortable with requesting that you take whatever is thrown at you is scary.
I swear some people do not understand that when someone says "I do not recommend this thing that I did not like or enjoy" that the people who know their tastes often align with that person will go "Oh, I'll skip that one then" but there is ALSO people who will know that their tastes often does not align with them will go "Oh, I'll go check that out then!" In no way is a reviewer saying "I do not recommend this" forcing everyone who sees that review to not read the book.
My husband (at the time boyfriend) used to have a roommate back before we moved in together whom I really disagreed with on a lot of things when it came to movies/shows/etc. We'd go to see a movie as a group and I'd walk out having really enjoyed it and he'd be "ranting" about how "bad" it was. I learned very quickly that if he said something isn't worth going to see, that it WAS worth going to see. Likewise if he did like something, I'd find it to be an ok at best and a very much not my cup of tea at worst. Our opinions on what we found to be good in movies/shows very rarely aligned, which was fine. It didn't stop us from getting along.
This is neither here, or there, but Moist Gusset may be the most disgusting sounding title I have ever heard.
okay, that first tiktok video of him genuinely scared the crap out of me. the way he talks, his facial expressions, his eyes, especially at 44:02... god, just everything about him gives me the creeps and sends my heart racing in real panic. i can't even imagine what it must be like for Hayley, being subjected to all this harassment by this author who could very well be a psychopath... stay safe out there, girls.
There's no way his bookcovers aren't AI-generated. The skin textures, head shapes, and buttons on Hub scream AI.
"I am actually pretty good in bed." that whole post of his is so 13 year old boy fake story to impress his friends during lunch
Wait was his book's plot about a man who lives his life according to dice rolls that make him do bad things? Thats the premise of a popular GTA5 RP streamer's character 😭
“A friendly piece of advice and by ‘friendly’ I mean ‘fuck you’” 😂 a great zinger in the middle of a shitstorm of the nonsense of this author.
speaking on the spoiler-free position, I know I'm unpopular opinion with this one but I definitely believe if your writing is compelling then the twist should land whether or not people know it's coming. if it landing hinges entirely on the reader not expecting it, then it has significantly diminished re-readibility value
I feel so badly for everyone victimized by Matt Shaw and his fandom. I can scarcely fathom the level and magnitude of insecurity the man has to have to resort to such abominably disgusting behaviors.
Also, fun fact: the idea for "Roll of the Dice" is not even original. That was lifted from an episode of Mission: Impossible, where the antagonist used dice to decide everything they did. I'm sure there were other uses of that premise, but that's the one that sticks out to me.
A 2011 episode of the Big Bang Theory, Sheldon decides to let every decision fall to the roll of dice to free his mind of decision making to devote all his brain power to physics. They were D&D dice.
My take is it's a lift from the cult novel "The Dice Man", by Luke Rhinehart, originally published in 1971, and popular both in the U.S. and U.K. (It hasn't aged well, by the way.)