I'm being sued for €250,000??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2021
- UPDATE AS AT 8:39am AEDT November 14 2021
Hummel have today confirmed via their lawyers they consider the dispute settled. I appreciate the support received since making this public. Thank you! Ref: • Post
- Shane Miller / GPLama
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All this drama over what should be a standard process of informing someone of the existence of a trademark and allowing them to follow the correct procedure to remove the offending artwork. This tale has a few twists and raises concerns for anyone using the RedBubble or similar platforms for online 'merchandise', regardless of how many items they've sold.
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I got a similar law suit filed against me in 2019 over a shirt design that I PERSONALLY created. I was able to get in touch with the actual owner of the company that filed the suit and he told me that to preserve their trademark, they HAVE to show that they are actively protecting it. So they send out 10+ law suites a year pretty much randomly and never follow up. So I hung the law suit on my wall as a trophy. Hope your case just blows over and you can have a cool story to sell.
That's crazy. I would be shitting myself getting one of these. And to think they send them out pretty much randomly...
Yep, as soon as they let one person do it, it will set a president for future law suits.
@@OriginalApexTwin In the real world if a company doesn't crack down on IP violations they're effectively forfeiting it to the public domain. If someone put a check mark (Nike) or three stripes (Adidas) on sportswear they can be sued too, it just happens to be that Hummel is mainly big in Europe but it's all the same nonetheless.
Is it true, though? If he say you that, then its a crime, unlawfully persecute some random people and you can run a case against that guys, or prosecutor's office could do that, if you send then information, because its their job, even if you personally would not case a file.
You can protect your rights without a shakedown. This is extortion. Will never buy Hummel.
Good on you for standing up for yourself. Something tells me this isn't going to go well... For Hummel.
Their CEO is now aware of this 'case'. I'm hoping they can see the stupidity of this and shut it all down. I haven't disputed anything. I honoured their request immediately. Except the part of covering their costs. Having to pay a lawyer to defend common sense is nuts. Oh well... at least this is all seperate from TH-cam. And I've since closed my RedBubble account anyway.
@@gplama I hope the owner Chritian Stadil will understand that this is wrong . If not, contact me, and i will with pleasure contact the Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet. I am sure that they would love to write about this (sorry for the bad English)
@@gplama Sounds a bit like Darryl Kerrigan from the castle movie. One man vs a big Corporation.
@@gplama a) Shame. Hummel were my favourite trainer brand - no more... B) What about paetron / crowdsource to raise funds to sort this out, should other means not work?
@@rexman007 It's the constitution. It's Mabo. It's justice. It's law. It's the vibe....
Sadly this is a fairly common thing to happen here in Germany. Hunting for trademark violations has evolved to a whole industry sector, no matter how absurd the issue might seem. I appreciate the fact that you made this ridiculous process public. May Hummel's brand reputation suffer from this.
And Germans hate it, because it's why they literally can't watch most non-German content on streaming services, the rest of the world generally blocks their IP in Germany. I have several friends in Germany who have nothing good to say about Germany's weird IP laws or the hyper enforcement of it, they have to use VPNs to access most content outside of Germany.
@@mrvwbug4423 yup, pretty much this. Copy-Right in Germany is a shit-show
"May Hummel's brand reputation suffer from this" Amen!
There is a legal term for what you called „ trademark volations” - extortion.
Love the burn in your last sentence.
I'm too speechless to comment on the actual matter at hand, it's absolutely .... yeah speechless.
How you made this story into a video was brilliant in any case, ending and all!
I'm sure you'd make an amusing one too 😊
Yep. He's doing the g o o d fight right here, as echoed by all the comments here, inc. yours.
(ps -- I'm still trying to perfect that top tube bag plastic wrap you recommended recently, so thanks again for another stellar 'how-to' video!)
I appreciate your comment and support mate. Get yourself and your gravel bike over here. Let's go for a ride!
That ending had me in stitches. Hummel is now less 20 clients after I told my colleagues as well.
It was so worth it for that ending!
Great ending !
Count me in, +1 never buying Hummel stuff and recommending against it to whoever ...
Didn't happen
uuuuhh youre hard. Doubt they give a fuck mate.
Nice work
*UPDATE AS AT 8:39am AEDT November 14 2021*
Happy to inform everyone this legal action has ceased. Hummel have today confirmed via their lawyers they consider the dispute settled. I appreciate the support received since making this public. This support was without question the reason for the prompt resolution. Thank you!
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- Shane MIller / GPLama
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I really appreciate the support by everyone on this issue. The advice, support, everything. You're all my biggest asset and why I've been transparent about this whole process and how it is unfolding. Should I have kept quiet and simply paid lawyers in an attempt to make this all go away? That would have been a course of action. I didn't post about this in April when this all kicked off. Things changed this week with the new documents (dated back in May!). The precedent this sets for EVERY content creator or ANYONE posting content online is just crazy. Common sense has taken a back seat here though.
I have to point out this video contains no call-to-action. It just outlines my position.
Hummel are aware of this situation and I await a response, if any. They have the power to simply call this off at which time I'll post a follow up video.
A summary:
● Boesling IP started their proceedings against me PRIOR to informing me or RedBubble of their claimed IP ownership of the chevron artwork.
● As soon as both RedBubble and then myself were made aware of the claim, the artwork was IMMEDIATELY REMOVED.
● Had the goal of Boesling IP representing Hummel been solely for the artwork to be removed, they had achieved that goal within HOURS of submitting their claim.
● RedBubble offered to pay Boesling IP their requested 'fee' of over €3,000 'in good will'.
● To their credit, RedBubble attempted to have this matter resolved. However in doing so they also provided Boesling IP with my personal details allowing Boesling IP to file their suit against me directly.
● Boesling IP continued to pursue me directly on behalf of their client, Hummel.
● AT NO POINT DID I DISPUTE THEIR OWNERSHIP CLAIMS CHEVRON DESIGN. I AGREED TO THE CEASE AND DESIST AND DID NOT CHALLENGE BOESLING IP OR HUMMEL.
● I submitted my responses to Baesling IP within hours of receiving their initial notification. I did NOT sign their provided declaration which required me to accept liability to pay them €3,000. RedBubble had already offered to pay it. If Boesling IP chose not to accept that payment, it again brings their intent into question. The artwork was removed, they didn't accept payment from RedBibble. What is it they want?
● Boesling IP appears to have only submitted to the courts my refusal to sign their declaration. No part of my response was submitted to the court. How is that acceptable?
● AT NO POINT DID I DISPUTE THEIR OWNERSHIP CLAIMS CHEVRON DESIGN. I AGREED TO THE CEASE AND DESIST AND DID NOT CHALLENGE BOESLING IP OR HUMMEL.
● The court sided with Boesling IP
Just a thought, due to the obvious differences in directions of the chevrons could you get legal advice from wahoo. Wahoo's first gen smart trainer was released on 2012. Realising that Hummel was est 1923, maybe wahoo received similar backlash. Big gun backing
I’m sorry for your stress llama 🦙- but thank you for sharing , being so eloquent, clear, fair and honest … I have every faith justice will prevail in your favour! … ride on bro!!!
I have personally been down a similar path and feel for you, this is complete BS. One thing to question is , and this is a big one. Did Boesling IP act initially on request from Hummel? There are a lot of lawyers that look for potential patent infringement generally without a client, then when they find a possible infringement they build a case then present this back to the art/copyright owner. This business model is getting out of control and we should all be very very very careful.
@@1vs1ninja Not relevant because the mark in question is for sportswear. Wahoo has no chevrons on their licensed sportswear.
In general i get the need for trademark protection, but this seems like the dumbest form of shakedown. Someone has too much spare time on their hands and not enough common sense.
you should sue red bubble for the breach, the pain and suffering, the loss of revenue etc.. a cool 2mil should do it; they seem to roll over easy enough
Wow, as someone who deals with contract and trademark law on a daily basis the actions of the law firm are truly egregious.
In Europe, we have GDPR laws on data privacy. If you were a European resident, bosling IP and red bubble would be criminally liable
I just looked up and there’s an Australian privacy policy which seems to do the same thing for Australian businesses and residents.
Iam from Europe and what GDPR gave me is 100 more spam emails and on every spam email is that my information was taken from public business directory and thats it... Aggressive marketing just laugh at you when you mention GDPR....
Liable for what?
GDPR policy does not just apply to an individual if they are a resident. If the information was stored or utalised in Europe, regardless of the residency of the individual, the rules to provide it protection apply.
@@jamesmackie510 liable for sharing data without permission.
Absolute Legend Shane, keep up the good fight, you have a huge fan base behind you!!!
You’re all my biggest asset. The comments show this. 🙏🏼
@@gplama Back when Specialized legal dept was going off the rails against small businesses, they only relented when they got enough backlash. I remember their fb was bombarded by supporters of the small businesses/brands. Don't want to stir up a mob, but I'll do my part.
I remember that. It was so damaging for Specialized. As of today I still associate aggressiveness when I hear that brand name.
@@gplama given your dealing with Germans, maybe you should build your case around Germans ripping off the swastika.
@@akashic_fox The 83 page document covers this detail. iirc no... but they're claiming it does and go on to spew a number of other cases where people can't tell the difference and use that as an excuse as to why my pattern is an infringement.
The End was pure gold 😂😂😂
It's a waste of judiciary processing power, and hummel should pay themselves to bankruptcy for bothering the courts with something so idiotic.
Just wrote a message to Hummel. As a customer I find it absurd what's happening.
Wow, I'm a bit shocked but sadly this is the world we live in. As usual, you've laid out the situation and circumstances clearly, fairly and intelligently. Open and shut, frankly I can't help feel you would have made a cracking barrister and would love to see you fly to Germany, go to court and wipe the fking floor with Dr Evil, er, Boesling. Hope this hasn't caused the Lama family too much stress and trust it will go away soon.
And to any new viewers, always stay to the end as its often very much worth it.
Glad you have a venue to expose these criminal lawyers and companies. So tired of the legal scammers. Keep us posted Shane.
Welcome to the world of design bro. Glad you're standing up for this and the stupidity of this. The company hummel? need to revisit their relationship with their lawyers.
Does this mean we’re both going to jail in Germany? 🇩🇪🤷🏻♂️
Flip you for the top bunk?
@@gplama Actually probably pretty nice there.
@@cawley00 in a german prison? I doubt it...
Shane, I’m still only a law student, but without any doubt we have a lawyer within the GP Lama fan base that is willing to lent you a hand on this case.
Loved the ending!
Dumping on a bully company.... gold... Flashing the shirt at the end..... priceless 🤣🤣
One has to think a billion+ road signs is prior art on any number of chevrons in any direction...
In Australia there is the Privacy Act, so effectively you can sue RB for disclosing your personal details. Now RB will sue Hummel for legal harassment and the circle is closed. I sue, you sue, we sue
Is that a reference to "Da Dip" song? LOL. I dip, you dip, we dip.
That is what makes your lawyers rich :-)
The ending is CLASSIC!!!! An open and transparent summary. I don't see how Hummel can win this case. It is actions like these as to why people view lawyers as scum of the earth!!
Ridiculous
Good coverage of this issue, Shane. This exposure should be helpful in warning people not to deal with Red Bubble and Hummel. Thanks for the heads up.
Yaaasss the pettiness at the end is the best. This is my first time watching. I’ve just been hired as a Software Quality Assurance Engineer for one of the indoor training companies you use, about 9 co workers recommended your channel.
Thanks for keeping us posted on how this goes. Best of luck dealing with all of this bs. Super sorry that it’s happened to you. 🤦♂️
This situation is almost unbelievable. You handled the situation very well from the start. Best of luck resolving this quickly. We need you focused on continuing your excellent and informative videos.
Mate you are awesome and there are loads of people behind you. You’ve helped a lot of people for a long time.
Nearly fell Off my chair at the end laughing 😂. Thank you for the entertainment 🙏
Anyone with a Redbubble account should close it immediately, dont expect them to delete your personal data though!
I closed mine today. They gave an opportunity to post the reason for closing it. I left this video URL and my phone number.
@@gplama I just told them you said Hi.
I'm in Europe and know Hummel which I thought was a worthy brand. I'm clearly not buying one of their products ever again after seeing what they're sueing you about. That's just grotesque.
Best of luck with this - totally loved watching the video and seeing how you've handled such a crazy situation. You've clearly done nothing wrong, no normal person would try to claim rights on a geometric shape :D Best wishes and keep us posted.
Brilliant... i will get the popcorn out for episode 2
SO glad I watched that to the end!
Bahahahaha, loved that bit!
Haha so good. Oh btw, he went >>>>>> that way ;)
That was hilarious 😆
That ending was fantastically done! Good Luck!
Well presented, Shane. Your explanation of just how ridiculous this situation is was excellent!
Loved the ending 😂
I`ve just posted on the Hummel Facebook page "Can I please order a GPLama Wahoo Kickr T-Shirt please?"
I`m awaiting a reply. 😂
They’ve got 4 of them to offer! 😂 Should be able to sell those at a premium.
@@therealbettyswollocks funnily enough it looks like they`ve removed my comment already! So don`t think I`ll be getting one now. 😢
I think Hummel does not even know that there is a copyright infringement going on. The have a contract with Boseling to do all that stuff for them.
I just posted a couple of photos of the Chevron gas station double-chevron logo, and pointed out the trademark infringement.
The ending is gold!
Hummel posted this 6 hours ago on one of their video comments;
"Hello everyone.
After review of the statements of Mr Miller it is clear to us that a misunderstanding has taken place.
It important for us to state that no one has been sued and Mr Miller will not face any further legal proceeding and hummel is not asserting any monetary claims.
We simply asked him to refrain from using our trademarks again in the future which is a standard procedure we always follow in order to protect our trademark which is the very fundament of our business.
We will reach out to Mr Miller and start a dialogue in order to clarify any misunderstandings.
We see the case as closed and wish Mr Miller all the best going forward."
Ha!!! Nice attempt at a save Hummel.... FAIL.
Keep up the good work Shane!
Keen for them to send that to me. Maybe even via my local law enforcement so I can trust their word. This is a mess. They could have handled this a little better.
@@gplama or a lot.. Ha. Keep rockin it!
They know exactly what they were and are doing. They hoped for an easy prey, but they hit the wrong jackpot. It's common business with the lawyer companies in Germany. Usually they don't get any resistance, so they continue their business model as it generates easy money.
Lovely ... Sharing this everywhere
... This publicity could cost Hummel a lot more.
This seems absolutely absurd. If I was a director of Hummel I'd stop this immediately and issue you an apology. This can only be bad publicity from their point of view and many consumers today base their purchases on company ethos / sustainability etc, not just the product. I'd throw you a few free t-shirts in too, so you could wear them and advertise their brand, by way of "good will"....
That’s a much better idea of good will than what RedBubble offered up!
Put it out in the press, like how Specialized got into reputational trouble when it tried to sue a coffee shop for using the Roubaix trademark
I've had a quick look at the caselaw, not only are Hummel incredibly litigious, they also appear to have copyrighted every possible variation of number and direction of pointing of chevrons.
@@neill392 they're chevron voyeur sickos
@@neill392 so essentially the clothing thing is only their scheme for sueing everybody on some signs. Sounds like Mafia.
I’m speechless… thank you for sharing and I hope Hummel will tell the lawyers to back off very soon.
Thanks. I chose to keep this off TH-cam for a few months. I didn't even cover the Peloton vs GPLama issue a while back either... but now these cowboys are serving up these kind of documents, I had to put something up here.
I've never heard of this company, but now will avoid them like the plague if I do. Thanks for bringing this to light and I hope your fight ends well for you.
Loved the closing seconds. Gold standard GP 🙌
Has this nest of vipers tried this on with Wahoo? It would be interesting to see there take on the chevron logo.
Or are they purely attempting to bully the little guy.
This has been your most interesting post ever Shane! (I even watched all the way to the end) Better than the usual bike tech crap ;-) Seriously though, I hope this is the end of the matter for you and these companies don't further embarrass themselves. They are clearly wrong on this matter and obviously haven't done their homework. I do wonder how much of this actually goes on and how much we don't get to hear about it. It is good you are sharing this with the rest of the world as I suspect some would be too intimidated to do so
When I clicked this video I expected a good time. I didn't expect this good of a time. Kudos to you llama and screw Hummel.
Happy to hear your case is resolved!
My Sergeant should sue them as well...
Totally outrageous what Hummel & BoselingIP are up to here... Also RedBubble owe you one hell of an apology - publicly too I note. Keep up the fight and we are all here for you. p.s. i literally cracked up at the ending!
Mate that sucks. Can only imagine the stress this must be causing you guys. Keep up the good fight and know you have an army behind you.
This company are a disgrace. This needs to go viral, I think you should start an online campaign (on all social media platforms) against them and their bully boy tactics and get all of the cycling community to boycott the purchase of their products. It’s not like they’re a player in the cycling market anyway. They can shove their Chevrons where the sun don’t shine. Shame on you Hummel!
Shane as an Australian lawyer I found parts of your video a little awkward and wished I could have helped you proof your response - but it's clear you're a man of conviction and I have my fingers crossed that the situation resolves itself.
I do find it very funny that the GC at RedBubble who signed their name to that letter (which I find as outrageous as you do) lists on their LinkedIn a proficiency with global privacy law..
For sure my response was pure hackery, I'm not a lawyer... I'm just a pissed off TH-camr at present.
Lesson: always dispute a frivolous claim or fine.
You can help him now for the greater good ;)
I'm surprised RedBubble didn't consult their own attorneys first? Unless they're too cheap to have an IP lawyer on retainer.
@@mrvwbug4423 maybe that's the advice? "roll over with the big guys, screw the little guys" Wouldn't be surprised.
Wow, that is so unbelievable to hear. I have just deleted my RedBubble account and will not be buying any Hummel products in my life.
This was worth watching for the last 3 seconds alone ! Great job
Awesome! Stick it up their corporate arse! Loved the ending Shane.
Your intonation is so pro, I love it. Well done on the evolution. And the end was spot on haha
Customer is king. I for one have already fedback to Hummel I suggest others do like wise.
Also done
Circles, squares and triangles are even more dangerous. Sony has an army of lawyers.
Hahahah love the end with the shirt. Shane keep doing what you do as you are great at it. I loved the reviews on the Kicker and that convinced me to get one. Result was improved FTP and pleasure on the bike. Thanks for your hard work.
I‘ve just asked hummel on their fb page wether sports spirit is part of their company profile… and added the link to your vid. All the best to you!
This is like a ludicrous Monty Python episode lol
Nicely done, and congratulations on the ending!
WTF!?!? That’s horrendous mate. Hope all comes good for you. Keep up the good work. 👍
I'm sure despite the humour in its absurdity, it must be a stressful time also. Hope it gets resolved or even better, a full apology issued as I can imagine it will nag on you no matter what. Take care and keep up the good work! Ride on mate!
Sued on behalf of a company that literally has "Karma" as one of the top level tabs on their web site ... Cue Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" (acoustic version)
Great to hear that this absurd case is now closed. What a bunch of clowns!
Is it?
Wow, well handled Shane! It was only about $400,000 AUD's they were after... Thanks for sharing this. I hope you recover from this "tough ride".
As rediculious as this situation is, it's probably a good idea to get some legal advice, just to remove the stress of the unknown. Hopefully there's a lama fan out there who can help. Good luck.
That ending is priceless ! Hope this all gets thrown out of court and everything works out for you.
I thought so too lol
Unfortunately, with no one in court to defend him, the court will give a default ruling in favour of Hummel. And at that point they will seek legal and court costs.
However, as long as he avoids going to Europe, nothing they can do to enforce. They would have to get an Australian court to enforce the cost ruling or agree some sort of extradition.
Actually the cheapest way of disputing this would be to buy a single share in Hummel and turn up at the company's AGM and ask a question. But, that would involve the risk of going to Europe.
I’m just shocked that a decent bloke like Shane can get dragged through the court over something so petty like this. I live in Europe and didn’t even know Hummel’s logo is chevrons… I’ve hardly heard of Hummel to be fair.
Good luck Shane!!!! We are with you!!!!
absolutely speechless!! RedBubble, you'll never EVER have 1c from me for sure!
....same goes to Hummel!
You don’t deserve all of this. Your content is very valuable to us. Hope that you can solve this soon
this i crazy! Hummel is a really well known brand in Europe, and being from Denmark myself we use the brand alot, our kids use it almost everyday. but this case makes me so angry! for Hummel to go this far is blowing my mind! i really hope that they drop the charges and go on minding their own business.
Please contact them, the web page has options for press / media / sponsorship etc. ... they must have a way of telling this law firm (outsourced) to back off when they (Hummel) understand that they've gone too far.
@@KaiSteinbach ive allready done that! ill get back, when/if I hear something.
Hi all.
Look at This guys!
Answer from Hummel
Hi Alexander,
After review of the statements of Mr. Miller it is clear to us that a misunderstanding has taken place.
It important for us to state, that no one has been sued and Mr. Miller will not face any further legal proceeding and hummel is not asserting any monetary claims.
We simply asked him to refrain from using our trademarks again in the future, which is a standard procedure we always follow in order to protect our trademark, which is the very fundament of our business.
We will reach out to Mr. Miller and start a dialogue in order to clarify any misunderstandings.
We see the case as closed and wish Mr. Miller all the best going forward
As a Dane, Im not buying their stuff anymore.
@@alexanderwendelbo1447 Hummel shoud send a check of $250 000 euro to Shane for moral distress as a sign of good will.That the LEAST that they should do.
Unfortunately here in Germany many attorneys make a business out of chasing anyone that seems unprepared taking advantage of anything that could be considered a gray zone. With the German strict trademark and intellectual property laws you'd have to spend a lot of time money and effort just to prove your innocence. You won't believe what people get in their mailbox here, I've heard crazy stories. I hope your case gets resolved and I don't even think Hummel is at all involved the attorney usually just says hey I'll bring you money and take whatever percentage so they let them represent the brand for this case.
All the best man, love your content.
That's lawyers at their best!
Good to know some more brands to personally ‘cancel’ from my hip pocket. Thanks Shane 👍
I sent the ceo of Hummel a message on instagram with the kind request to top this harassment. We live in a crazy world. Hummel is Danish, but the lawyers in Germany makes me suspect the law over there might be more favourable for them than elsewhere.
I hope this gets sorted for you! Thanks for informing us about HUMMEL and the shit their Legal Representatives are doing! Maybe they are not aware of, but anyways no more HUMMEL for me, and will be please to share this story around! Good luck & keep us updated on the outcome!
Throwing in my support GP Lama. Best of luck, you got this.
Good luck Shane! I certainly will avoid both companies moving forward. The end of the video was the funniest thing I've seen from you.... Thanks for all you do!
Just ignore it mate. Don't reply.
I got taken to supreme court by someone worth 500 million. I didn't even have a lawyer and turned up in shorts and my vegan t-shirt. It made the papers all over Australia and was front page here in SA.
Didn't cost me a cent and it didn't go anywhere.
I only turned up because it was in Adelaide and I didnt know better. Knowing what I know now I wouldnt have even turned up or opened any emails etc.
I've lost count how many other court summons or threats I've had from international celebs etc. I just ignore them. Lawyers just want cash from both parties. Don't get involved. They always give up. Too expensive and can't get blood from a stone. 99% of lawyers are greedy scum. They became lawyers to get loaded. The most messed up kids I know typically have a parent as a lawyer.
If I was a judge I'd be pissed. Ridiculous lawsuit
horrific... ty for posting
Reply just received from Hummel: “Hi Tim,
After review of the statements of Mr. Miller it is clear to us that a misunderstanding has taken place.
It important for us to state, that no one has been sued and Mr. Miller will not face any further legal proceeding and hummel is not asserting any monetary claims.
We simply asked him to refrain from using our trademarks again in the future, which is a standard procedure we always follow in order to protect our trademark, which is the very fundament of our business.
We will reach out to Mr. Miller and start a dialogue in order to clarify any misunderstandings.
We see the case as closed and wish Mr. Miller all the best going forward.
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Venlig hilsen - Best regards
Josephine”
Ya now ... once they are caught ... who else have they played this game on in the past?
@@ronsterg3017 They HAVE to send a serious legal notice to anyone who they feel has infringed their TM. It is one of the most basic things about having a trademark. The fact is that if you're going to sell something, not knowing that the design infringes a trademark is not an excuse. If you don't enforce your trademark you can effectively lose it.
@@X85283 They did not have to go as far as they did. They are trying to make quick easy money. This is not a large corporation he can easily be identified as someone who makes no money selling his merch. You are providing self serving excuses for corporate greed. Disgusting. Further how you copy right a chevron is beyond me, they would lose in court.
"Again"? He didn't use their trademarks to begin with.
@@jochem1986 He in deed did.... the shevrons on sportswear are a trademark for hummel, as are the three-stripes for adidas or the arrow for Nike.
He was not aware of the trademark - but that's a difference. The real issue here is, that the simple "stop doing this" escalated so much. In deed even involving the BoselingIP is understandable... somebody made a mistake using Hummel's trademark - why should they pay for the time to investigate and get in contact. So the initial costs of BodelingIP should be paid... and that includes the "dissuasion" they requested. That more or less should say "you did something wrong. we officially notified you now. confirm you never do it again or ..."
But at least here in Europe these initial costs for the "dissuasion" are limited and must be reasonable... the 3.000+ € already seem too high for some hours of research and writing. Usually it is
The pure savage move at the end got me good:) Hahaha
Shocked by this. So much work for such an insignificant sales amount.. Hope it ends well for you. How you made it into a video was great.
Amazing Video! Love it Shane
Good thing I had just set down my coffee before the ending. Well played.
You'll beat this.I love a man/woman who will standup for their rights & opinions, especially when they are not in the Chevrong
When I was younger I was the recipient of the legal "BIG GUY" going after the very "LITTLE GUY." It is a hopeless feeling to be in that situation.
I am very happy to read of your eventual successful conclusion, although the stress for those many months must have been wearing.
Worth it for the last 5 seconds... Well done and well put.
Let it go to court, with a statement, watch the judge laugh them all out of court. If its anything like the UK the judge will tell them not to darken their door again...
The ending is amazing!!! Hummel needs a new TM hunting laywer
That's me just finished Facebooking Hummel to say that I won't be buying from them again, and that I'll be spreading the word. Keep up the good work.
Glad to hear this has been sorted out Shane
Wonder if shoes are protected...I feel a chevron VeloKicks coming
A percentage of profit going to the fighting fund?
Careful, they are in their right to follow trademark infringements, and now you've even admitted to being aware of their designs...
@@larsblesvik1110 notwithstanding this case is a borderline illegal shakedown, I think Aussie sarcasm might have also been missed ;)
I think it is not just an "overestimation" - this is kind of a business model. Running image recognition algorithms on every creative platform in hope to find new victims who are not able to legally defend themselves against such cases, obviously more often triggered by the lawyers than their "clients" on their own. As a German, I'm feeling really sorry you have been treated so bad from these legal assh*les.
SO SORRY YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT CRAP. SOME PEOPLE JUST SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BORN TO HURT US..LUCKY YOU'RE CLEVER
Besides everything else, it’s lucky you are smart, positive and loved individual. It’s a horribly stressful thing to deal with. Let’s hope someone in Hummel has a heart and realises this.